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June 28, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Mark Passio joins Decentalize TV for powerful discussion of natural law, liberty philosophy...
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV here on our free speech platform, Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and we have a very special guest for you today.
Mark Passio is coming up in just a second, and this is a highly anticipated interview, according to numerous sources.
And by the way, my co-host today, as always, is Todd Pitner.
Welcome, Todd, from the great state of Florida.
How are you doing today?
Hey Mike, I'm doing great.
Yes, shout out to two-time previous guest, Corey Interlott, for suggesting our fantastic guest today.
Thank you, Corey.
I've been waiting for this one for a long time, ever since Corey just shared information about Mark.
Let's go!
Yeah, and by the way, if people want to know how to get on this show, the answer, you just gave the answer, you have to know somebody who's been on the show and who recommends you, is how that works.
But it's an unlimited number of shows because there are such great people in these networks, and one of those great people is joining us right now, Mark Passio from the website whatonearthishappening.com.
Welcome, Mr.
Passio.
You've done an incredible amount of work for humanity.
Welcome to the show today.
Thank you so much for inviting me on.
It's great to be here.
Thank you, Mike and Todd.
It's great to have you here.
So let's start with an introduction.
Why don't you describe your body of work?
I mean, I know this could go on for hours, but just summarize it for our audience, who you are and how you got into this.
Sure.
I'm an independent researcher and presenter and public speaker.
I organized conferences in the past.
I have a documentary film that I produced.
And essentially, my body of work deals with hidden knowledge, which is occult knowledge, occulted knowledge, that has been hidden from the population to essentially keep them controlled and ultimately to enslave them.
And my work differs from many other researchers' work in that I do not focus on the day-to-day symptoms of the control system.
We can explore those until the end of time and until we're all enslaved and we're all endlessly tired of going over the details and intricacies of our prison.
Where my work stands out is that I am offering solutions from the perspective of the very causal factors that generate our enslavement.
There are laws which govern human freedom, that govern the state of the freedom of entire civilizations.
And what I explore is how we are interacting with that body of natural laws that exist in nature.
And how we are either as a species in harmony with those body of natural laws or if we are thinking and behaving outside the parameters and boundaries of those laws and thereby truly enslaving ourselves.
So that's what the body of my work at What on Earth is Happening is all about.
It's about the governing dynamics of human freedom, which is what I feel is sadly very, very lacking in the freedom community these days.
So what you just said, and I feel this sometimes too, that if I'm even responding to today's breaking news, I feel like I'm caught in their system of focusing on the little minute details rather than discussing the big solutions.
How do we escape this system?
That's a lot of what you're talking about, right?
That's exactly what I'm talking about and that's not to say that the day-to-day news cycle shouldn't be ever brought up or discussed or analyzed.
What I'm basically saying is that if you only focus on that and you don't get down to the underlying causal factors in human psychology and in philosophy that will ultimately lead to the solution, It's basically going around in a hamster wheel and not really getting anywhere.
And I feel like that's what the overarching body of the freedom community has done.
And I'm sort of trying to push, make a push in the direction of really exploring occulted human psychology and the occulted laws of nature that we really have to understand in order to ever be free.
I'm sorry, but that is so true.
I mean, let me bring in Todd.
Todd, what do you think?
Because if we don't know who we are and where we came from, how we got here, like the real big picture, I mean, I think real history is hidden from us.
The truth about consciousness, the truth about creation, it's all hidden from us, as Mark is talking about.
What do you think, Todd?
Indeed.
Man, this is so fantastic, this subject matter.
And I'm just going to skip down to my third question.
So, Mark, and with this, I need to set the table a bit, so bear with me, please.
I personally believe in a creator God, the God of the Bible, to be precise.
And to me, he represents the good, the beautiful, and the true.
And I also...
We believe in evil spiritual entities.
Let's call them Satan and demons, if you will.
Now, if a Creator God does not exist, for those who might think so, we have zero basis, I assert, that...
Evil exists.
And let's face it, evil exists.
So right now, I believe all around us, there is a spiritual war going on.
And these evil entities have been at it for a long, long time.
And I submit the it...
Mark, here we go.
I have two questions.
Sure.
One, would you agree with me that there's a spiritual war premise?
That's one.
And two, how do we, just as regular old individuals that haven't been here for eons, how do we stand a chance in beating back evil and these demons?
Mark Passio.
I absolutely concur.
We are in a deeply embedded spiritual war.
Some of us know that that war is taking place.
Some of us are oblivious to that fact.
I just got goosebumps because I just feel it, you know?
Absolutely.
I also concur.
There is a creator.
I don't tell anybody or force anybody, like, accept any viewpoint of God or the creator of the universe.
It's the force that created all of nature and all of nature's laws.
And an aspect of the body of laws that the creator made was behavioral law, law that governs the behavior of entire societies.
If we are in the universe, and we are an aspect of the universe, and the Creator created the universe and all of its laws, then we are not exempt from law.
There is spiritual law.
There is moral law.
That is behavioral law.
And if we understand how those laws of the governing dynamics of behavior, which ultimately generate human freedom or Generate a state of enslavement for an entire species.
If we understand how they work and we align our behavior to it, we're going to have the positive outcome that we say that we want, which is freedom and order and prosperity.
If instead we, you know, behave in direct opposition to those body of behavioral laws, we are going to get everything that we say we do not want.
We are going to get enslavement.
We're going to get disorder and chaos.
We're going to get evil.
Good and evil certainly do exist.
One of the cruxes of my entire body of work is the true understanding of what true goodness and true morality is.
One of my main aspects of my work is explaining to people that true objective morality Has been hidden and obfuscated from the body of the human population so that we cannot truly align our behavior to the body of spiritual moral laws that exist in creation and therefore we can't really generate the condition of human freedom.
We're always falling back to the default position of a tyranny reigning over us and us externalizing our power and being ruled.
And until we really definitively know the true and objective difference between right and wrong behavior, we can never align our behavior to true right.
And that's why I feel that many of the traditions that have existed since time immemorial on this planet All of the institutions, all of the religions, etc., have been telling us a false and obfuscated definition of real morality and getting us to confuse their often distorted definitions of morality with true objective morality.
Let me jump in and say they tend to teach that morality is actually conformity or that conformity is necessary for morality and that you're immoral if you don't go along with the group.
And that group might be a church.
That group might be a government group.
That group might be the LGBT movement or the climate cult or what have you.
But isn't that true?
I'm sure you've noticed this, that obedience is now...
Rated across society as the highest moral measure.
And that is a falsehood.
It's horrific that that is taking place all the way across the board in all of human civilization.
And it's because people want to identify with groups.
They want to identify with cultures.
They want to identify with institutions such as political parties, religions, etc.
The truth about human morality, the truth about the objective difference between right and wrong is not to be found in any group, any institution, even any world religion.
Although some religions can contain core elements of truth, they unfortunately then get They get obfuscated and they get shrouded with different types of control and relative morality that the creators and the priest class of these institutions want to claim as morality for their own purposes, which is often control and influence over others.
But the true morality is written in the human heart and in the human mind.
We have to use our reasoning and our logical abilities to definitively understand what our rights are and what our rights are not.
One of the things that I tell people all the time in my work is if you just do a social experiment and ask people the very, very most basic question regarding first principles, almost no one will be able to answer it correctly and that is what is a human right?
If we want to defend our rights, we want our rights intact, we want our freedom intact, How can we possibly do that if we can't even define what a right actually is in nature?
And you ask people this simple fundamental question that deals with the most fundamental of first principles.
And we've done, you know, me and the people who help me with my body of work.
We've done social experiments to this effect many, many, many times.
I love the fact that you're doing this.
I want to jump in, and I know Todd's got more questions as well, but I want to jump in.
I've had discussions like this in my podcast, and I'd like to just put forward one example that I've talked about and see how you would react to this.
But, for example, we know that we have consciousness because we are self-aware.
That is an experiential reality from that place that we have consciousness and we have the ability to make our own decisions.
From that, it is derived that we own our own bodies and we own our own behavior.
From that, you can extend the fact that no government can force a medical procedure onto you because you own your own body.
And if you own your own body, then you own the product of your labor.
If you own the product of your labor, then you have the natural extension right to own and control and take custody of the product of your labor, which would be money, for example.
And then you also have the natural-born right to enter into contract.
with other people without government interference because you own the product of your labor because you own your body.
Is this the kind of thing that you're talking about?
This is the exact type of moral material that I teach.
It's all about what you own and what is your rightful property and what you do not own, which you do not have the right to take from others.
So if we get to the very first principle of what is a human right, It's an action that does not initiate harm against another sentient being because you are not violating their property.
All rights stem from property rights.
As you said, we own our body.
If we own it, then no one can tell us what we can put into it or cannot put into it.
If we own our body, we own the fruits of our labor, and no one can make claims upon the fruit of our labor.
You must put this into your body.
That's a claim.
And the claim that it is, it implies that they own the property.
They own the body.
The same thing when it comes to taxation.
If they claim, I can take any portion of the fruit of your labor, then by extension, that's making a claim upon the body that produced the fruit of that labor.
Exactly.
And there's a word for that.
When we claim to own a body that isn't ours, That's called slavery, and I stand against all forms of violence.
I stand against all forms of incursion upon other beings' rights, and I certainly stand against all forms of human slavery, whether they are covert, meaning hidden forms of slavery, which we're essentially under, or overt slavery, like chattel slavery.
All of it is completely, inherently, morally illegitimate, and when you understand that, By extension, you must understand that all government is inherently morally illegitimate and there can never be a true moral claim to the concept of authority over others.
If each one of us owns our body and that's our property, there's no such thing as claiming To be an authority over anyone else because that is the theft of one's free will which is also our individual property right to exercise our free will so long as we are not infringing upon the rights and free will of other beings or initiating aggression upon other beings.
And this is the crux of my work is that the vast majority of the people in the freedom movement don't really truly understand objective morality in that capacity.
And it's a very difficult thing to try to come sort of butt heads with people about because you're essentially telling other people as I have been for the past 17 years that I've been doing this work, what it really boils down to sadly It's looking right in the eyes of another human being and telling them the very unfortunate truth that they do not know the difference between right and wrong behavior.
And that is what the masters of manipulation of this world, that is what the social engineers, the mind controllers, as I refer to them as the dark occultists of this world, the people who are trying to occult or keep hidden the true laws of morality and the true laws of nature, That is what they have done.
They have made the body of the population of this planet ignorant to the truth about the difference between right and wrong behavior.
And it's all ultimately about property and it's all ultimately about theft.
Every wrongdoing that we could possibly do to another being is a form of theft.
It's stealing from another that we do not have the right to take.
It's taking property that we do not have the right to take.
So murder, that's the theft of life without right.
Assault, that's the theft of bodily well-being for the person who owns the body without right.
Rape is the theft of free will sexual association.
Theft is the stealing of physical property.
Trespass is the taking of the security in another's living space, which we don't have the right to take.
Coercion is taking free will from somebody else, which isn't our rightful property to take from another.
And deception is taking the ability to make truly informed choices because you're giving correct information.
Don't forget censorship.
Sorry to interrupt, but censorship.
Absolutely.
I would say that would be a part of coercion because you're trying to silence someone's speech, which is their free will to speak out and tell the truth as they understand it and see it.
And if you're blocking that, you're stealing someone's free will and that's part of their fundamental rights to freedom of speech.
Absolutely.
Let's let Todd jump in here.
I know you've got a lot more and then I've got tons of questions too.
This all sounds fantastic to me, but there is one missing link.
And that is, for there to be objective truth and morality, there has to be a basis for that.
And what I heard from you, the basis is out of our hearts.
It's out of our hearts.
But there are a lot of dark hearts out there, Mark, and those people who are doing very, very bad things, they may be able to justify it.
Their hearts may be telling them that this is okay.
So that's one thing that appealed to me after, you know, at the age of 42 when I finally, you know, they say God brings you to your knees so you might look up.
When I turn the corner from, you know, not considering specifically the God of the Bible to actually taking a long deep dive, is the examples you gave, you know, are written in the book.
Kind of back into the Ten Commandments and such.
So for me, I believe that if...
God created all.
He's certainly capable of communicating to us, and I believe that that creation happened so that I have basis for truth and morality, which is God's Word.
Now, I know that breaks people's brains, and we don't want to pigeonhole people into one religion or the other, but let me just present back to you, absent that, absent God coming down here and teaching us, What is the basis for your first principles other than it comes from our heart?
Well, I didn't say it comes from our heart.
I said it's written upon the human heart.
In other words, I don't believe that there is any particular one place where we will find the totality of the teachings of moral law or natural law, and it absolutely does come from the creator of the universe.
All rights stem from the creator, and as human beings, it is our birthright to have our natural rights, and they are unalienable from us.
So all claims to the contrary that rights come from anywhere else are inherently morally illegitimate as far as I'm concerned.
No disrespect, I'm being playful here, but according to you, like if I'm an atheist right now and I'm like, okay, pat you on the head, Mark, that sounds all good, but according to me, not the case, you know?
I know right and wrong.
And believe me, I agree with you 100%.
I'm just trying to back the truck up to that basis.
How do we look somebody in the eye who may not be a believer, may not believe that there is a creator at all?
What could possibly be their basis for objective truth?
When Mark's done, I have an answer for that as well.
Go ahead, Mark, and I'll chime in.
Well, I would basically say that it doesn't require any belief.
The Creator did not create the laws of nature and the laws of behavioral consequence to torment us with their unknowability.
And the Creator gifted us with the ability to discover and reason and even do experimentations and observations and come to the conclusion Of what is truly morally right and what is truly morally wrong.
And I don't claim to believe in those things.
I claim to know those things.
I would say I factually know those things because they are factually knowable if we push ourselves to truly know them.
No belief is required in the understanding of true objective morality.
Actually, I would say that we are charged to know those things.
That is one of our responsibilities as true adult beings, as true beings with the responsibility to understand what is happening around us and try to make the world a better place than we found it.
So I would say to atheists, if you don't understand that there is a creative underlying intelligence in all of nature, call that whatever you will, and make an effort to relate to it and develop a relationship with it in the ways that you wish.
But if you don't accept that There is an underlying force of creation and intelligence that designed the universe and that created all of its laws, both physical and non-physical, meaning they govern behavioral consequence in addition to governing the bodies of the matter of the universe.
Then essentially what you are left with is that rights are either non-existent or they are created by human beings which as materialistic atheists, people who believe in materialism, believe that human beings get to make up what rights are or governments get to make up what they are and that's the basis of moral relativism.
Moral relativism is that we can essentially Choose for ourselves and be the arbiter of right and wrong.
And that is the quickest formula for the enslavement of any species in the universe is to delve into moral relativism.
It's one of the tenets of Satanism.
And that's one of the things that I teach about is what real Satanism is, which most people have no idea what Satanism actually is because they've never been involved with it.
This is part of what I explain to people in my background.
I got deeply involved in Satanism in my youth.
And when I realized it was all about enslaving the human race, my conscience wouldn't allow me to continue to proceed and go deeper into that realm.
And I became a whistleblower about it.
So I know what Satanism is from a first-hand perspective.
A lot of people will dismiss my work because of that.
I think it gave me the greatest insight that you could ever receive into the psychopathic evil mentality of the people who are really calling the shots and controlling things in our world today.
Let me add my answer.
I mean, yeah, thank you for that explanation.
This is already going to be a really fascinating discussion.
But I would say, too, to both of you that...
The Creator created rules of the universe.
Some of them are known as physics.
For example, curvature of space-time, we call it gravity.
Or, you know, strong nuclear force, weak nuclear force, electromagnetism, what have you.
Now, an atheist doesn't have to believe in God to believe in gravity.
So an atheist can believe in the effects of God without believing that God put those effects in place.
And, you know, from the first moment that an infant drops a spoon and it hits the floor, it's like, whoa, now I'm experiencing gravity.
But I want to ask you, Mark, this is in the realm of physics, and it's about the flow of time.
We, human beings, we only experience the flow of time in one direction.
And so we experience cause and effect.
And the effect always follows the cause, not the other way around, because time flow is not symmetrical in our experience, right?
And you speak of behavioral consequences, which is, of course, consistent with this flow of time, which is a physical element.
This is the way we experience time, which is interfacing the laws of physics with our consciousness.
So we experience the flow of time in a certain way.
Now, interestingly...
That flow of time can change in our perception, right?
Sometimes time goes by so fast, sometimes it takes forever.
If you're on medications, you might lose time.
Or if you've had too much beer or whatever, you might lose time.
But it only flows in one direction.
Now here's what I've noticed in society, Mark, especially in medicine.
And I've spoken about this repeatedly.
And it's how doctors teach their patients to not believe in behavioral consequences and they essentially tell their patients that they are afflicted from spontaneous disease without cause.
Now spontaneous disease is when the doctor says oh we're diagnosing you with cancer and there's nothing you could have done about it or you have type 2 diabetes there's nothing you could have done to stop it.
Look Your mama had diabetes, so of course you were going to have diabetes.
Well, your mama's eating the same Pop-Tarts that you've been eating and drinking the same high-fructose corn syrup.
But there's this movement in medicine to take away There is no such thing as effect without cause.
There's always a causal relationship and you can trace an effect back to a causal factor if you're intelligent enough to do that work to be able to trace it and to be able to really see what the causal factor was.
And the body of my work is all about tracing back the condition that humanity finds itself in to the causal factors which put it there.
And this is one of the things that, again, the freedom movement, so-called, I find that a bad name to even call it because movement implies that you're going somewhere and this movement has been spinning its wheels since it began.
The reason they're doing that, sadly, is because they're not tracing back the effect of human tyranny and enslavement back to its root cause in the behavior of the everyday person.
It's the thoughts and behaviors of the everyday member of the population that ultimately needs to change because their perception is what is keeping us in this immoral condition.
They believe things in a distorted capacity.
That are simply out of alignment with natural law.
They're out of alignment with the true laws of reality.
They're out of alignment with true morality.
They believe authority can exist and ever be moral.
They believe government should exist and could ever possibly be moral when it's all based on violence, direct or implied, which is called duress.
They believe in all kinds of distorted belief systems.
They believe in the distortion of what the real solutions are.
They want to believe the solutions are going to come in the form of politics like voting somebody into office.
They believe that solutions are going to come in the form of some new financial reform.
We're going to invent some new cryptocurrency that's going to be the savior of humanity.
They believe it's going to come in technological form or some new breakthrough in how we grow food.
And my quite unpopular word and teachings to the freedom community is none of those things can ever be the solution because most people, if they try to implement any solutions like that, they're dragging into those fields all of the consciousness they're dragging into those fields all of the consciousness that they previously had without changing it for the better and without elevating their consciousness to a new understanding of how the laws of behavioral consequence work.
If we don't build the solutions we are going to build based upon a solid foundational framework of the true understanding of natural law, which are the behavioral laws of consequence, the moral laws of creation, then nothing that the moral laws of creation, then nothing that we build can ever truly stand upon the shaky foundation.
We have to understand that there are laws in effect that Basically work like this.
As an entire population becomes truly moral, not religiously moral, not holding a distorted viewpoint of what real morality is.
To give an example, I talk about the real seven deadly sins, right?
The seven deadly sins as taught by religion, specifically in the Christian tradition, are Pride, gluttony, sloth, lust, anger, jealousy and greed.
All vices.
All internal modalities.
Not things that we should do and be proud of and dwell in, certainly.
But the real seven deadly sins are the transgressions against natural law.
Murder, assault, rape, theft, trespass, coercion and deception.
So if we don't build our framework upon the true understanding of what the transgressions against moral law really are, and not to do those things, not to engage in those things, not to support those things, not to condone those things.
See, and everybody's really indirectly condoning a lot of those things because they condone that government should exist.
Government's the most immoral institution on the face of the earth.
And yet people, by extension of their own thoughts, give their tacit agreement for it to continue to exist and even support it and put it up on a pedestal by voting for people to be their quote, representative, but really their owners and masters.
And natural law works like this.
If we are a truly moral people, then we become more free.
The more and more into Degeneration morally we go, the more we become enslaved.
This is what I call the law of freedom in my work.
As aggregate morality increases, aggregate freedom increases.
And as aggregate, meaning collective, morality declines, aggregate freedom declines.
There's a direct one-to-one proportional relationship Between true morality in the beings of a population of a whole civilization and how much freedom they experience in their condition of life.
And that's all you have to really do to understand this science.
This isn't a belief system.
This isn't a religion.
This is a fundamental, unrecognized science about how freedom is generated or destroyed within any given society in the entire universe.
It's completely, directly proportional to how much true morality the population displays.
If they display true morality and they align their behavior with that, they're going to end up being a free species.
If they go against it, they're enslaved.
I thought economics was the science.
I thought Fauci was the science.
And there will be no Nobel Prizes given out for the science of which you are speaking.
Todd, I want to give the floor to you.
I know you want to jump in on this, so go for it.
As you were talking about all of that, I was just in my head thinking, God, we're screwed.
I mean, I look around and I witness and I think about the weapons of the Druid-Babylonian battles and the cancers of, let's name them, inversion, tolerance, secularism, fake moral posturing, virtue signaling.
It's like I can't imagine a world, in my near future anyway, where we're going to rebound to where the focus is going to be on morality.
Here's a question I have.
This is one Mike knows I love to ask people, especially people like you.
I refer to the negative forces running the world as Druid Babylonian bastards.
I heard another name that you had.
The mass murdering victimizers of this realm.
We all seem to speak of them as they.
We've done it here on this show several times.
I've heard the word they.
Depending upon who you are speaking with, the they who are running the show could be what?
The deep state, the The Vatican, the World Economic Forum, Club of Rome, I don't know.
Mark, with your experience, especially when you're youth with the Satanism, I'd like your take.
Who are they who are truly running this realm?
Excellent question.
I refer to them simply as dark occultists.
So the first thing that people will...
Flinch at when they hear that term is the word occult.
And sadly, most people don't know what the word occult actually means.
They have, again, a distorted definition in their mind based on what the social engineers programmed into it through their media and their language.
People don't know what crypto means, like cryptozoology.
People don't even remember.
Crypto doesn't mean Bitcoin.
It's actually almost synonymous with occult, actually.
Yes, it means hidden.
It means covered.
Covered up, not readily seen.
And that's what the word occult means.
It just means hidden from one's view.
That's all.
If I hold up an object like a phone, and then I do this, I have occulted the phone from view.
I've just covered it over.
That's what occulting means.
To occult something means to hide it.
So the word occult means hidden.
So if I say hidden knowledge, it means occult knowledge.
That's all it means.
We have to demystify this term and stop making it be some type of religious trigger word.
Because what the occult really is, is it's a deep body of psychological knowledge and a deep body of knowledge about how the laws of creation, the laws of nature actually work.
So if you occult those two things, you make people through sequestering the knowledge from them, through roping it off, you're cordoning it off, okay?
And you're telling them, don't look here, you don't need to understand that, or that's nonsense and you don't want to look into any of that.
And what that really is, is half of the body of that knowledge is how do the fundamental laws of the bodies of all of creation work?
How do the physical laws work?
How do the laws of the very small things like when you get down to quantum mechanics, when you get down to the electromagnetic forces?
How do the big, big bodies of the universe really work?
All of those things.
You know, you get into, you know, astronomy.
You know, you get into gravity and electromagnetism.
And if you get people not understanding how any of those things work, they're going to be a very confused people from the start.
They're not going to understand the basis for any sciences.
They're not going to understand the basis for invention.
They're not going to understand the basis for engineering, etc.
And they're not going to prosper as a result of that ignorance.
So if you hide the way that the universe really works from people, you gain a tactical advantage over them because if you know how it works and they don't, then you've gained a power differential over them through a knowledge differential.
And it is the same with the non-physical laws.
If they are occulted, if you occult An entire realm of psychology, an entire realm of philosophy, if you occult how karma actually really works instead of giving people this cartoonish notion of karma, you know, they walk into a bank, rob a bank, they walk outside and a safe falls on their head from an adjacent building immediately.
This is ridiculous, nonsensical, cartoonish version of how karma or natural law works.
When in fact, if you occult the real way it works, which is a population is either in alignment with behavioral moral laws of creation, and they align their behavior to objective morality, and then over a long period of time, this is how karma works.
This is why people can't see often the causal relationship between cause and effect, because it's separated often by large swaths of time.
And, you know, if you occult the way that works for them, and they don't understand natural law, and they don't understand that's all about the governing dynamics of human behavior, over a period of time, you're going to be able to completely control and enslave that population.
And that's what the dark occultists are.
They are a body of people that over millennia of time, All aggregated and kept very, very close to their chest the knowledge of how the fundamental laws of our universe work, both seen and unseen, both physical and non-physical, both governing matter and governing behavior.
They understand that, and you could consider these people The most advanced, ancient and powerful psychologists, evil psychologists that have ever existed.
Look at them as, instead of looking at them as black robed figures in a clearing in the forest, sacrificing animals in a bonfire, which is also a cartoonish version of what Satanism really is, and yet people will insist that's what it is.
I instead I try to get people to understand.
Think of the dark occult world as the most highly advanced psychopathic psychologists that have ever lived and have ever existed that know everything about every intricate detail about how the human mind works and all of its motivations, all of its drives, all of its secrets, all of its wants and desires and how it works in its totality.
They hate the body of the population and they want to see it destroyed because it is a creative aspect of the creator of the universe and absolutely that is one of their goals.
They want that destroyed.
Mark, question.
Are these psychopath psychologists eternal?
I mean, are we talking about the demons?
No.
No?
Okay.
They are doing the work of involution, and that is what I would refer to that satanic force as in nature.
In the occult realms and in the occult teachings of the mystery traditions of the ancient world, They didn't talk about them in terms of angels and demons, you know, God and demonic forces, or God and Satan.
They instead referred to them as the forces of true evolutionary progression, which is the evolution of consciousness into higher and higher realms of understanding and awareness.
And then the backwards force, the force that always fights that, consciousness wants to expand and flower and grow into new forms and higher levels of expression.
And the force that tries to contract it, the force of constriction and contraction and ultimately burying consciousness.
And making sure that nothing new happens and there is no learning and there is no growth in consciousness is known as involution.
So there is evolution or rolling out or involution, complete constriction and holding back from making any forward progress.
And that is what I would say that these beings ultimately serve.
Whether you go outside the realm of terrestrial life And you look at that there may be demonic elements within the creation itself, or there may be non-terrestrial consciousnesses that may be holding sway and holding an effect over the people of this world.
Either way you look at it, and I don't see anything wrong with exploring either of those possibilities.
Either way you look at it, the solution remains the same.
The solution is stepping into our own power, understanding the laws of the creator of the universe, embodying that through our behavior, and saying no to evil at all times and places.
How do we do that?
Before we get there, I'm sorry to jump in.
I want to be sure to mention an event that Mark has coming up.
Now, from what you're telling me today, I really want to study your framework because I've been really looking for a solid framework of natural law and the extensions from that that govern our existence.
You have a 23-week seminar coming up.
It's called How to Become the True Media.
That's right.
And I see this on your website.
And again, your website is whatonearthishappening.com.
But tell us about this 23-week It's available via a private donation and people learn all these things.
Just give us a little plug about this.
Sure.
Well, I envisioned this many years ago because as I was teaching my work, I kept reiterating that it is not just important to know this.
So many people in our field of endeavor Of the dissemination of this type of information.
Look at it as some type of an intellectual curiosity.
And they just want to be entertained with new forms of information.
And I keep telling them from the beginning that's not the purpose of this.
You have to put skin in the game.
You have to actually get involved.
You have to make this a part of your life.
You have to take real world action to speak out.
And to make media and create media or interview people and put that information out online where it can be easily distributed and disseminated to other people in a wide and free fashion.
And it's not just about like, oh, I know it, so screw everybody else and who cares whether they know this or not.
That is going to ensure that we remain enslaved and we keep going down the path of tyranny.
So I was re-emphasizing over and over, this is something that you have to have knowledge on, not only what it is, but how to disseminate it to a wider audience.
And you do that through creating media and putting it online, just as you are doing, just as I do.
Without speaking out on the modern informational transference medium, which is the internet, you're not going to get your voice to a whole lot of people.
You might reach a few people in your family, maybe if you're lucky, and maybe some friends by extension, and that's going to be about it.
So part of my goal was I wanted to teach people how to use computers effectively to be able to distribute this information.
Now as I said, technology is not the solution.
Morality is the solution.
Real objective morality and aligning our behavior to it is the solution.
But there's a technological component to that because one person is not going to be able to reach everybody in the world.
We all have to use our voices and we all have to use our creative abilities to speak to everyone within the potential sound of our voice and the potential reception of that information from us.
The internet is that vehicle.
Technology is an expression of that.
It's not the ultimate solution, but it's a component of the solution.
So when I started explaining that to people, almost everybody around me is telling me I know nothing about computers, and frighteningly.
More people in the modern world are telling me I don't even own a computer anymore because the black fondle slab, as I call it here, you know, the black mirror has replaced most people's ownership of computers and they don't even have creative computers anymore.
They have a phone or a tablet.
And what I want to do is I want to bring an understanding of how to create media to morally educate the population and teach people how to really use that as a tool.
Teach people how to use a computer as a tool for the creation of media and teaching people morality through that tool.
So this resulted, yes?
First of all, hearing that, that's wild to me.
But, I mean, I am steeped in, you know, I've been using computers and creating media and content, you know, for decades.
I thought this was all common knowledge.
But from what you're saying, like, most people have maybe never learned or forgotten how to do this.
All they have is phones now.
But, I mean, I agree with you.
Of course we have to use the Internet to multiply our reach.
Otherwise, we're just spinning our wheels these days.
Do a social experiment and ask people how many people know how to do that and actually are doing that, and you'll be horrified by the numbers.
So is the website for that is howtobecomethetruemedia.com, is that right?
That is correct, yes.
So that begins in July, right?
July 8th?
Yep.
I'm accepting enrollments up through July 4th.
Okay, got it.
Alright, so people have got a few more weeks to get enrolled in this course.
If people are tech Luddites, if you're sort of afraid of technology, I start with the very basic concepts, and I teach from the very fundamentals up through building your own website, making your own films, making your own podcasts, etc.
So I teach all the way from the very, very simple up through media creation in the modern day.
Well, be sure to tell people in your course they can use Brighteon.com and they won't be censored and their followers won't be shadow banned on our platforms, Brighteon.com.
And because of technology now, we have Brighteon.io.
Which has no hosting servers, so it's completely decentralized.
Nice.
Which means it can't be confiscated, and there's no censorship that's even technically possible on that site.
The distributed model is the way to go for the future.
That's the way of the future with the Internet.
And I interrupted you and Todd both.
I apologize.
But I have a burning question that I think I've got to lay out here.
And Mark, since we're coming up on time, if I could ask you, please, just try to keep your answers a little bit shorter so we can get a little bit more in here.
But just the other day, Trump announced that he was going to allow waiters to keep their tips and And the conservative media, oh, Trump is the best, bowing down.
Oh my God, he's going to let you keep the money that someone gave you.
Oh, it's so amazing, it's going to get the youth vote.
And I'm thinking, what is wrong with this picture?
You should always be able to keep what people give you.
Out of their own free will.
I even said in my podcast, I'm like, this is a good start, but why not end all federal taxation?
All income taxes.
I mean, if you really want to be popular, just end the whole damn system.
But Mark, isn't this an example of the total indoctrination of the slave mindset of the American people to say, oh, thank God, King Trump is going to let us keep our little tips, you know?
It's sadly a slave looking at two slave masters and saying, he'll beat me six days a week instead of seven.
And that's a sad thing to say.
But unfortunately, that's the way it really is.
Let Trump talk about the complete annihilation and completely getting rid of the property tax, which is one of the most immoral things because people pay more for their house in a lifetime than they paid for it initially through the property tax.
It's crazy.
And that's the biggest oxymoron term.
If it's your property, how can someone tax you on it?
That's like saying they're just going to tax you on your body because that's your property.
It's just extortion.
Plain and fundamentally, it's violence, it's theft, it's extortion, and it's immoral.
And I just find I can't believe how many people really don't understand that all the mechanisms of government and claims of authority are immoral.
And when you go along with them, you're tacitly condoning the immorality that is taking place all around us.
That's why we end up in the same place over and over again, which is in abject tyranny and enslavement.
And the only way that's going to change is through changing the consciousness.
We have to change how we think and we have to change our understanding of morality because we haven't been taught real morality.
That's right.
Go ahead, Todd.
Mike, you were talking a little earlier about censorship, and in my mind I'm like, what the hell does this guy know about censorship or being censored?
But then there's your lawsuit where you're suing the world over the matters quite a bit, actually.
I'm suing the Department of Defense, Homeland Security.
I'm suing Alejandro Mayorkas.
Yeah, we're suing all the big tech companies.
Twitter, Google.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Okay, here's the thing.
These interviews are always very dangerous for me.
We interviewed Jim Gale.
He's the CEO of foodforestabundance.com about, you know, installing food forests in your backyard.
And what do I do?
I go install a food forest.
So I tend to, if I really like the content, pursue it.
So here's my question to you.
If I want to authentically, Mark, pursue objective morality, Where do I go within your website to begin?
Is there a 101 of sorts?
Anything you'd point me or others to, Mark?
The way that I structured my information is that I did a podcast that was a progression of information that you need the prerequisites of the earliest podcast in order to understand later episodes.
It's built like a college course.
So I would recommend going to my podcast and starting at number one and do not skip around because quite frankly, it starts off with my earlier work.
I have to be honest.
I was sort of wearing a mask and I was speaking to people from the level of, I don't want them to get scared away.
I want them to listen.
And I was really, really taking it very easy on people at the beginning.
In my later episodes, I get very, very ultra, ultra confrontational with people.
Because if they haven't gotten it by those later times, I find that they're very complicit.
And I'm speaking to them from a perspective of really telling them that they have to do better and they have to do more shadow work upon themselves and their own consciousness.
Because they're still very reticent and reluctant to truly change their thoughts and their behavior.
So I would recommend the beginning of my podcast.
What podcast?
What podcast?
What on earth is happening?
It's right on my website, and you can click podcast.
The next place I would say is...
Anywhere you can find podcasts?
If I search in my Apple podcast?
I am on Apple podcast, yes.
But if you click the podcast tab of my website, that is what I would recommend starting with.
Now, if you click the videos tab, I would recommend starting also with my natural law documentary.
The natural law documentary called Mark Passio and the Science of Natural Law is a little over one hour.
It's about one hour and eight minutes long.
And this is a primer for what natural law is, how it functions, and how we can align our behavior to it in daily life and therefore truly turn our enslaved society to a free and prospering society.
That's what that natural law documentary does in a nutshell.
It gives the very primer foundational basics.
Well, I hope you are open and willing to come back on our show because, Mike, I don't know about you, but I can tell that we could probably unpack, you know, a year's worth of shows with Mark.
I mean, just so rich with knowledge and content and solutions.
And that's what we're all about.
Absolutely.
We like to bring solutions to the table, not just discuss the problems.
I am absolutely open to that any time, gentlemen.
I thank you for that offer, and I'd be absolutely willing to do that.
Well, I want to watch the one you just said, the science of natural law.
This has been a topic of great interest to me.
And also, you know, I'm a fan of people who are thinking in alignment with the Founding Fathers, people like Jonathan Emord, who talks about the tyranny of government bureaucracies and how they grow and take more power from us.
And if you think about the Founding Fathers, they simply enumerate, or they did their best attempt to enumerate natural law in the Bill of Rights.
But what most people forget, they think, oh, the Constitution protects us.
The First Amendment protects us.
No.
Natural law protects you.
The First Amendment just tries to write that down.
That's the difference.
This document doesn't have magical powers.
I mean, you have power as a conscious being.
And that's what people forget.
But anyway, we could talk about it.
I tell people that the thing that will create the greatest level of protection is truly standing in the truth and standing in true objective morality and aligning your behavior to that.
That will give you the greatest protection that you could ever receive and then after that, you know, the 45 on your hip can do the rest.
Mark, how many episodes are you up to on your podcast now?
We're at episode 293.
I'll be delivering 294 this Sunday.
Congratulations.
That's amazing.
What a library of content.
Well, I'm going to start on number one this evening.
Excellent.
Okay.
Well, Todd, I will join you in that.
Maybe not this evening, but definitely this weekend.
I'm going to listen to starting with number one as well.
Mark, I got to say, we're really blown away, both of us.
I think I can speak for Todd on this.
We're really impressed with what you're bringing to us here.
And the thing that disturbs me, though, is how did we not get you on the show sooner?
My work is honestly very marginalized.
I'm probably shadow banned in a lot of social media.
And a lot of people don't want to hear that the solution is changing how you think and behave.
They want to hear it's all external to yourself.
That's right.
And when it comes to changing consciousness, as I said, people want to bring their same limitations in their awareness into new fields of endeavor and think they're going to change anything as a result.
The first and ultimate principle of the laws of nature are everything stems from mind.
And if you have an imbalance in the mind and you're not correcting that, that's going to come into every new endeavor that you try to And that's why we're not winning the war for our freedom.
That's why we're still in very, very, very terrible territory and it's not getting much better.
In order to correct that, we have to change the ways that we think and especially change our understanding of what real right and wrong are.
We've never really been taught that and it's much different than what most people believe it to be, sadly.
I think that's why a lot of people don't want to focus on my work, to be honest.
They would rather have people analyze the 3D effects instead of getting to the very painful and uncomfortable causal factors in people's own minds and their own belief systems.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but I completely agree with you.
And just to add here, although we're going to wrap this up, I mean, I want to invite you, we'll talk about this after the show, you know, another day, but to have one of your programs on Brighton University, because there we often reach 100,000 people for a program.
And you talk about large distribution of people who can tune in and actually learn about something.
That's a great platform to help get the word out.
I'd be very interested in that.
Yeah, absolutely.
But I want to say that I continually see...
First of all, as a disclaimer, I'm very disappointed in humanity.
I've publicly said that the human race is largely a suicide cult.
And I'm very disappointed in most people, but I'm incredibly impressed with certain people, right?
With the people who, like you did, you rejected the satanic death cult and you got super red-pilled and now you're teaching others.
But I continue to find that people...
They want to worship an outside solution, like you said, and this is also the Christians who are saying they're going to be raptured out of here, and so they don't have to do anything.
I am so sick of hearing that interpretation from, oh, I don't have to grow food.
Jesus is going to come take me away from all this stuff.
I don't have to worry about anything.
Do you listen to yourself?
First of all, if you really believe in the teachings of Jesus, Jesus wants you to be prepared.
That's right.
He taught that!
I mean, but it could be the rapture for Christians or for atheists.
It could be, oh, this other person is going to save us.
Or super political people, like Trump is going to save us.
Trump is the Jesus.
We're going to be raptured by Trump.
How do they think that the Creator wants us to externalize our power?
The Creator wants for us to be intelligent, It wants for us to be caring.
The Creator wants for us to be courageous.
The Creator wants us to act in the right ways.
You know, it doesn't want us to sit here and wait for something to happen and wait for somebody to take care of it.
The Creator wants us to become better than we are now and become intelligent, caring, courageous, and driven to right action.
That's what the Creator wants for us.
Speak to you and say, sit around on your ass and do nothing and wait for us.
That's right.
Come on.
Anyway, you and I are on the same page on that.
I think Todd is as well.
But it's like, this is the time for us to realize the power we have as conscious, aware human beings with empathy, compassion, incredible brain technology that is a supercomputer in your skull.
Put it to use.
Absolutely.
Amen.
Yeah.
Well said.
Exactly.
Okay, Mark, well, it's a pleasure having you on today.
Thank you so much for taking the time with us.
Absolutely, gentlemen.
It was a pleasure.
The pleasure is all ours.
We'll have you back and we'll talk again.
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So, wow.
First of all, what an amazing body of knowledge that this man has put together.
I'm really impressed.
Just crazy.
Just crazy.
I don't know if people noticed or if it was...
But while he was talking at the end, Mike, my house got hit by a lightning strike and it blew everything out.
My generator kicked in, but it took a while for Wi-Fi to boot back up.
So sorry, everyone.
Was that a message from God?
Did you offend God with your questions?
He's like, check your morality!
Shazam!
Bam!
Todd's gone!
Okay, but...
Fortunately, you were not vaporized, so you're still here.
You're back.
I was not vaporized, and it was the end of the interview, and what an interview it was.
That guy, oh my goodness, he's just...
Again, I evoke this unconscious competence.
We've had so many guests that exude that, you know, just when he opens his mouth, you can just tell that he has, you know, 300 freaking episodes of pure goodness.
Yeah, I feel like I could do an interview with Mark by just saying, Welcome to the show, Mark.
Tell us, what is consciousness?
And then just, he could go for an hour.
Like, I don't even have, that's it.
Like, that's all I have to do for the whole show.
And then he's like, boom, he takes it.
He's got so much knowledge in these areas.
Todd, you're missing again.
Has there been another bolt of lightning?
Hey, Todd, you're a...
We're not hearing you.
We're seeing you.
This is the best freeze frame ever.
You have actually the perfect Todd smile right now.
But I think another bolt of lightning struck Todd's house there in Florida.
All right, so here's what I'll do, folks.
Until Todd comes back, I will wrap up the show.
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You've got your website, Decentralized Directory.
Let me actually bring it up.
Here it is, decentralizeddirectory.com.
So, Todd, take it away.
Well, you know, if you go down to where the decentralized partners are and you click that yellow, and you scroll down and you go to the middle one, the thing that people should focus on is the Unincorporated Nonprofit Association.
And I will tell you, I've done so many of these and I've had so many consultations I figured out how to make this easier for people to understand it and consider it without having to pay a consultation fee.
So if everyone would just write down my email address, it's imtodd at protonmail.com.
And if you're interested in it, I recently did a presentation to a large group And that was followed up by a private consultation with a business person who had an LLC wanting to know how to be able to integrate that into an unincorporated nonprofit association.
And that 45 minutes is pure gold because it's with Dennis, who's been doing this for 34 years.
He's forgotten more than I'll ever know.
And And there were so many good, it was such a great Q&A. And I captured it all and I turned, I combined both of those into a 90 minute video.
And it will share everything, everything that you could get from a direct session with me.
And if you would like to get access to it, because it is an unlisted video, you can email me, tell me you're interested.
I'll send you a link.
And you can go watch it.
And then after that, look, it's your movie.
If you'd like to continue discussions, you can give me a buzz.
You don't need to do a consultation fee.
The only reason why I had the consultation fee on there, Mike, and you know that, is just to vet out the people that need to be vetted out.
But I want to get this information out to people.
It is so powerful.
And it It's literally changing people's lives, helping them keep more of what they earn and lower their tax burden lawfully.
So that's kind of how I've rejiggered everything, Mike, to make it easy for people.
I would like to see that 90-minute presentation, too.
I will send it to you.
I haven't seen that yet.
Okay, yeah, send it to me.
I'd love to see it.
You bet.
This UNA that you've been talking about.
I don't know enough about it.
So I'm open to learning anything I can.
So definitely set it my way.
Well, you've been presenting World War III to everyone.
You've been a little busy, Mike, over the last year.
There's a lot going on.
That's for sure.
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But again, for the show, it's phone123.com or abovephone.com.
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Let me bring that up.
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It's a lot of shows.
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Check them all out.
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We're going to check in with him.
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reality-based content, I just looked at our internal scoring of that model yesterday, and it scores 94 out of 100 in our testing, which asks it questions about medicine, health, history, politics, genders, reality, everything.
94 out of 100.
The base models from companies like Microsoft or Mistral or Meta, the base models score about 50 out of 100.
Our most recent model was scoring, I think, it was 79 out of 100.
And now we have a model that scores 94 out of 100.
So these models are all available to you for free.
Let me bring up the website, brighteon.ai.
You can go there.
You can download these models.
Just enter your email.
Click register.
You can download the language models free of charge and use them locally without charge.
And it's like just open source language models that we build for you and release to the world.
And it's a knowledge base because we've trained it on a tremendous amount of material on nutrition, natural health, gardening, survival skills, food production, off-grid medicine, off-grid living, and so much more.
And the way we build those is by investing in the infrastructure with the help of your support at healthrangerstore.com.
So enjoy all of our products, enjoy the health benefits and health support that they offer, and feel good about knowing that you're helping to support us as we build the infrastructure for human freedom.
Thank you for watching.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com.
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