BBN, June 24, 2024 – Homicidal government unleashing an AMERICAN HOLODOMOR
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Two scorpions fighting.
One scorpion has a bunch of baby scorpions on her back.
That's the one on the right.
You see all the little white?
Those are baby scorpions on her back.
The one on the left is probably a male and the woman is telling him To take her out the trash.
Looks like they're doing a tango, doesn't it?
I think the male is trying to drag that female somewhere.
Like, come with me!
We got a rave party to go to.
Look, he's working.
Look, his legs are just working.
He's like, you gotta come with me!
She said, I don't wanna go!
I look fat in this dress!
Welcome to Bright Town Broadcast News for Monday, June 24th, 2024.
I'm Mike Adams, coming to you today with a heavy heart because of what just happened over the weekend in Crimea, Washington.
The U.S. military clearly was involved in entering the coordinates for an ATACMS missile that dropped cluster bombs on women and children at a beach.
In Crimea.
And it killed at least four people, two children, injured 120.
This was not launched by Ukraine.
This was launched by the United States.
And it shows you, I mean, we're going to cover some other news first.
We'll come back to this.
But it shows you that the U.S. is willing to just commit acts of terrorism against innocent Russian civilians in order to try to provoke Russia into World War III. To me, it's still a surprise to see how desperate the West is to start World War III. So desperate.
Trying to provoke at every level imaginable, including emotional.
But we'll come back to that.
Let's start with this video from some farmers in Idaho.
And you probably heard, we've covered it over the last week, that water has been ordered shut off And this is well water.
It's been ordered shut off from about 500,000 acres of farms in Idaho.
And this has been called the Idaho Water Curtailment Order.
Let me play this about one minute video here from a couple of farmers there who look like they can handle some potatoes, by the way.
But they've got the warning for you.
Check this out.
So this is a letter that we just got.
We didn't think we were going to be affected by this curtailment because most of our farm ground, all these sprinklers going back over here, most of our farm ground is surface water through canals.
We do have eight wells but two of them are emergency wells and I think we've converted I think three more, two or three more Over to surface water, but we do use three wells.
We use three wells to water our crops.
So they want us to shut our water off.
This is from the Idaho Department of Water Resources, and they want us to turn our wells off.
And it's not just us.
So the Idaho water curtailment is affecting About 500,000 acres of farmland here in Idaho.
So what's this all about?
Well of course, as you know, this is about engineered famine.
So here we have the government of the state of Idaho, which you would normally think wouldn't be completely insane.
Actually ordering farmers to stop watering their crops.
Now, this is over some crazy negotiation that some water authority had with some other water valley in the south, whatever.
The point is that they're not letting these farmers water the crops they already planted using their own wells.
And that's insane.
And this is engineered famine.
This is designed, number one, to bankrupt farmers.
And it's also designed to cause famine.
And this is happening at the same time that these governments will go in and they will raid like a raw milk or a raw cheese operation in Pennsylvania or somewhere else.
And then they will order all that destroyed.
Just like what happened in California a few years ago at the raw food retailer there.
And then went in and they destroyed $50,000 worth of raw milk and cheese and other groceries and they just gathered up all the food and destroyed it.
But when you're trying to grow food, they will cut off your water.
So remember when I said that your government has been turned into a terrorist organization and unleashed against you to carry out acts of terrorism.
You cannot call these government decisions policies.
These are terrorist acts.
Designed to cause famine, mass death, and suffering.
And at a federal level, when you unleash an engineered bioweapon on the population, and you call it a vaccine, that is a weapon of mass destruction, it's a psychological operation, and it's a biological terrorism attack against our nation.
It was also unleashed against our military operation Warp Speed, for which Trump has never apologized, by the way.
That's interesting.
I wonder if that's going to come up in the debate.
I doubt it.
But we are under attack.
We are under constant attack.
And the sooner you realize that, the better off you'll be in trying to survive it.
The people who don't know they're under attack, they will end up dead.
They will starve to death.
They will be destitute.
They'll be kicked out of their own homes.
Or, soon, probably they'll be drafted and sent off to war to die at the hands of the Russians.
But this water curtailment This is happening at a time when the state of Idaho has plenty of rainfall.
There is no water shortage.
This is an engineered event in order to bankrupt farmers and destroy the food supply.
And by the way, did you know that cocoa prices have gone through the roof?
So get ready to go cuckoo for cocoa because cocoa prices, yeah, they're totally insane.
And this is affecting us as well.
It looks like cocoa prices, they're well above $10,000 a ton now.
And it means that, well, at retail, you're going to be paying 50% to 100% more for cocoa-related products.
And what does this have to do with weaponization of government against the people?
Well, obviously, geoengineering.
They're targeting the food supply.
So yes, geoengineering and terraforming operations Are in play right now.
And then if the food does manage to get grown, then the black ops teams from the government run around and set fire to the food facilities.
Folks, this is not science fiction.
This is not hyperbole.
This is reality.
You are living in a war zone.
Your country has been turned into a battlefield.
The government dispatches black ops sabotage teams.
They have lots of them because special forces are all trained to do this in other countries.
And just like the government turned censorship instruments that were supposed to be targeting external forces, they've turned that inward now and used it to target Americans.
They're doing the same thing with special forces operations.
They used to airdrop into other countries and set fire to their infrastructure.
Now, they're just driving right up to infrastructure in America and setting it on fire.
It could be a chicken farm.
Could be a power distribution hub.
Could be a meat packing plant.
Whatever it is, they're just destroying it.
This is happening.
So understand, you're living in an actual war zone, and this war has multiple methods of causing famine.
One of them is for the state to send out letters to all the farmers and say, stop using water.
Just stop using water.
What?
What?
We're farmers.
We dug a bunch of wells so we can water our crops, so we can produce food, which also benefits the state economically because of all the commercial activity in the state and all the income taxes and business taxes and everything, and fuel taxes, right?
But the state says, no, we'd rather just people die of starvation.
So that's what they do.
You're living in a war zone.
Now, one of the acts of warfare that was unleashed against us, by the way, was in February of 2023.
Remember that?
The East Palestine train disaster.
Now, it's clear that train disaster was also allowed to happen.
Elements of it were engineered, and now there has been a study about the environmental contamination.
This study has been published in Environmental Research Letters.
We're going to be covering this On naturalnews.com, but I want to read for you some of the highlights of this study.
Now, let's just back up and remind you that at the time, right after the accident happened, people like myself, who are trained in many elements of contamination, because after all, I run a food science lab and we test foods and soils and water samples for contamination using mass spec instrumentation.
So I knew that when this giant plume of toxic chemicals resulting from the burning of, well, vinyl chloride, you know, one of the raw materials for PVC, I knew that this was unleashing toxic chemicals that would cross into many different states, including Pennsylvania.
It wouldn't just stay in Ohio.
But you may recall...
The EPA said, oh, everything's fine.
There's no contamination.
It's all good.
You may also recall that Senator J.D. Vance, who is now at the top of the list for the VP pick for President Trump, and I think he would make a good VP, by the way, but he was out there.
Barefoot wading through streams in East Ohio saying, yeah, it's all good.
There's no pollution.
Everything's great.
Of course, they didn't film all the dead fish that were floating by, you know, and they waited for them to pass.
But we were told by the EPA and state Ohio authorities, we were told that everything's fine.
There's no problem.
Well, now there's been a study, and the title of the study is called Widespread Impacts to Precipitation of the East Palestine-Ohio Train Accident.
The top author is David A. Gay.
Okay.
Now, in their study...
They say that our measurements, I'm reading from the abstract of their study, revealed a large aerial impact from the Midwest through the Northeast and likely Canada, and perhaps as far south as North Carolina.
Portions of 16 states were impacted by the chemical fallout.
That's 1.4 million square kilometers.
Now, from the abstract, observations show the expected high chloride concentrations So yes, the chlorides fell out of the sky.
Oh, by the way, guess what they did not test for?
They didn't test for dioxins.
We'll talk about that in a second.
So expected high chloride concentrations, but also unexpectedly high pH, which is basic, and exceptionally elevated levels of base cations exceeding the 99th percentiles versus the historic record.
These results were consistent with the meteorological conditions and atmospheric trajectories and were not due to highly concentrated low-volume precipitation samples or wildfires.
This clearly shows that the impacts of the fire were larger in scale and scope than the initial predictions and likely due to the uplift from the fire itself in training pollutants into the atmosphere.
A more detailed evaluation of the accident and resulting fire could further refine the full impact.
So, bottom line is, they're saying that because this was such a massive fire, it lifted these toxic chemicals, which include dioxins, by the way, into higher and higher levels of the atmosphere, causing them to spread over 16 states.
And the lead author, David Gay, who is the coordinator of the National Atmospheric Deposition Program, talked to the Washington Post about this and said, I did not expect to see an impact this far out.
And he says that the results would not melt steel or eat paint off buildings, but that they were still, quote, very extreme compared to normal.
With measurements higher than at any time recorded over the last 10 years.
And then another scientist named Julianne Baer, she said, quote, I think we should be concerned, she told the Washington Post, citing the possibility of long-term environmental impacts on communities.
Now I can assure you that this was no accident.
This was an engineered event, and it was designed, in my view, and based on the interviews that I've done, the research I've done, it was designed to destroy farmland soils in the northeast of the continental United States.
Now, this study specifically did not test for dioxins.
Dioxins, such as TCDD, are so toxic...
That they can cause cancer upon exposure to one femtogram of this dioxin molecule, one femtogram.
Now you may wonder, what is a femtogram?
Well, if you recall the SI units in the metric system, so a milligram is one one-thousandth of a gram, a microgram is one one-millionth, or ten to the minus six of a gram, a nanogram is one one-billionth, Because, you know, you've heard about nanoscale and nanowires and everything, right?
Because it's one one-billionth of the thickness of a meter, right?
Pico is then 10 to the minus 12.
So like a picogram is one one-millionth of one one-millionth of a gram.
And then femto is next, and that's 10 to the minus 15.
So a femtogram is one one-billionth of a millionth of a gram.
And if that gets on your skin and on an organ in your body, it will cause cancer.
And this got spread.
This is created when you burn vinyl chlorides, by the way.
And this got spread over 16 states.
And so far, no one has tested for this.
Again, think about what's happening here.
In Idaho, they're turning off the water to cause engineered famine.
In the East Palestine train accident, they spread dioxins over 16 states and possibly parts of Canada.
And again, nobody's testing for dioxins, and they told you it was all safe.
And then, what else has come out in the last few months?
Biosludge.
Or, as they're called, biosolids.
Which is just recycled human sewage from the city's sewage plant and then they spread it on farms.
We've covered this because, of course, I'm the creator of the film called Biosludged based on the work of Dr.
David Lewis, the EPA whistleblower that the EPA defunded and fired and then had federal agents come to his house at like 4 in the morning and pull him out of his bed and threaten him.
He wrote about that in his book called Science for Sale.
It was that book that inspired me to create the film, Biosludged.
And I flew him out to my lab, by the way.
And we actually filmed the interview of Dr. David Lewis in my mass spec laboratory.
So he's one of the few people that's actually been to my lab.
And he loved it.
He was like, you know, it feels right at home here.
This is awesome.
Because, you know, the EPA took his lab.
But he was blowing the whistle on the fact that Biosludge is contaminating farms and making them unusable to grow food in the long run.
Because you're depositing PFAS chemicals, or PFAS, forever chemicals.
And also dioxins and other things as well.
heavy metals and all kinds of crazy pathogens.
And so now, in the last few months, we've seen the FDA ordering certain farms to shut down, saying, well, your soil's too contaminated with PFAS chemicals.
And it turns out those farmers were using biosludge, which is all approved by the EPA, because the EPA is a terrorist organization that is working to destroy America's farms.
Now, Bill Gates is buying up record farmland across America.
Do you think Bill Gates is putting bio sludge on his farmland?
Do you think Bill Gates' farms are cut off from water and irrigation?
Do you think Bill Gates' farms were in the fallout zone of the East Palestine train accident?
No.
No.
What you're seeing is Bill Gates, and in some cases Communist China, buying up record farmland across America While the United States government, committing acts of terrorism, is engineering famine and farmland destruction through sabotage, you know, accidents, so-called, as well as the continued biosludge applications on these farms.
Folks, these are straight-up acts of terrorism.
The EPA is allowing a widespread terrorist attack On U.S. farms.
And the whole point here is to shut down as many farms as possible, cause widespread famine, and then corral people into a weaponized food scarcity program where the government hands you your food allotment.
And then you have essentially food stamps or digital food stamps.
You're only allowed to buy a certain amount of food each day or each week.
Because we're headed into World War III, which we'll talk about here in a second.
And in World War III, the United States government plans to starve to death millions of Americans.
That is just a straight-up fact.
I don't care if it sounds, oh, it's a conspiracy.
No, that's impossible.
They love you.
No, no.
They are working to murder you.
They are setting events in play in order to murder you.
Look, they tried to murder you with the COVID vaccine.
And they built a bioweapon and sent it off to Wuhan for gain of function, but then they told everybody to light up and take these mRNA death jabs.
They already tried to murder you once.
A lot of people were able to evade that by not taking the jab, but guess what?
Everybody has to eat.
The government knows that.
Everybody has to eat.
So by weaponizing food scarcity, turning food into a weapon, they can create The new American Holodomor.
Yeah, an American Holodomor.
You're like, what is an American Holodomor?
So if you look up the history of the Holodomor, H-O-L-O-D-O-M-O-R, it's just a bunch of O's.
All the vowels are O's.
This happened in Ukraine, modern-day Ukraine.
It was a man-made famine that took place 1932 to 1933.
In Ukraine, which was part of the Soviet Union at the time, and it was engineered starvation that killed millions of people.
So the word Holodomor, and I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing it correctly, it's supposed to be a combination of Ukrainian words for starvation and death.
So this was a famine engineered by Joseph Stalin's government to punish the Ukrainian people.
For their resistance to the Soviet policies at the time.
And it was also designed to eliminate Ukrainian independence.
So that was an example when the Soviet Union literally starved to death millions of people on purpose.
And there are similar examples in the history of China, North Korea, and other countries throughout the world history.
Now it's coming to the United States of America.
The U.S. government is carrying out an American holodomore in an attempt to starve millions of people to death by sabotaging the farms, shutting off irrigation, bankrupting farmers, and having fallout of toxic chemicals that make farms unusable.
Oh, yeah, and by carrying out sabotage against food production facilities, including chicken farms and meat processing plants.
So there you go.
Like I said, you're living in a war zone.
The Holodomor of 1932-33 has been internationally recognized as a genocide.
So for all those people out there that are saying, oh, there's no such thing as genocide because they're talking about critics of Israel's behavior right now.
Oh, there's never genocide.
Governments never try to kill people.
Well, you have to be a complete idiot to say that.
You don't know history.
Almost every government tries to kill people.
And they have succeeded.
In the Holodomor in Ukraine, it's estimated that between 3.5 to 5 million people were starved to death.
Unbelievable.
The Ukrainian people suffered devastating population loss as a result of this.
And it's doubly sad because right now, because of this war with Russia, the Ukrainian people are also suffering another massive population loss, especially of their young men.
Ukraine just can't catch a break, can they?
Now they're being used by the West, even though Western nations don't give a crap about the Ukrainian people.
But they're using them to try to harm Russia, and it's not working, but the Ukrainian people are indeed suffering horribly.
The thing is, I ask you this question.
If the United States government is willing to sacrifice the lives of half a million Ukrainian men, and if the U.S. government is willing to You think they won't kill you?
In order to achieve their goals?
You think they won't starve to death millions of Americans?
You think they won't bomb America's own cities?
You think they won't murder you?
In order to get what they want?
They absolutely will.
They're in the process of doing it right now.
They've been doing it for a very long time.
I mean, they killed thousands of Americans on 9-11.
I mean, they allowed it to happen.
It was a CIA plot.
Building 7 was rigged for controlled demolition.
The airplanes were allowed to hit the Twin Towers.
The entire National Air Defense was ordered to stand down.
I mean, they even had a missile hit the Pentagon, and then they tried to gaslight the whole nation and say that, no, a commercial jet hit the Pentagon.
Really?
Where's the landing gear?
Where's all the luggage and bodies and wing parts?
Where's all the airplane seats and everything?
Oh, there are zero photos showing any of that?
Oh, wow.
So...
So how is it that you say a passenger jet hit the Pentagon?
There's not a single photo or video of any part of any passenger jet ever hitting the Pentagon.
Okay.
But they want you to believe that.
And if you don't believe it, then they say you're a conspiracy theorist.
Give me a break.
Nobody believes the government anymore.
Even people today, after COVID, people are waking up about 9-11.
They know 9-11 was an inside job.
And if 9-11 was an inside job, what else has your government done against you?
And what else are they willing to do?
Well, I say, the next one is underway.
It's the American holotimore right now.
They're going to make sure you starve to death if you let them.
Now, obviously, there are things that you can do, you know, to not starve to death, such as learning to grow some food, having some stored food, getting some garden seeds, right?
I mean, connecting with local farmers and local agriculture, but if they contaminate the soils with fallout and dioxins and bio-sludge, then, you know, you can't even grow food, right?
I forgot to mention, too, out of that study, In that journal that I mentioned, they said that they found very, very high pH levels.
Unexpectedly high pH.
They said elevated levels of base cations exceeding 99th percentile versus the historic record.
Now, those of you who are good at growing food, you know that plants require a very narrow range of pH in the soil.
And that for a great many plants, if you push that pH a little bit too high, they die.
In fact, it is the acidity in the soil that typically makes minerals more available.
Now, I understand that different minerals have a different affinity or permeability into the plant cells, the root cells, based on different pH.
I understand all that.
I'm just saying, generally speaking...
If you have slightly acidic soils, like a pH 6.5, let's say, you're going to get a lot better mineral absorption than if you have a slightly alkaline at 7.5.
If your soils are cranking 7.5 or, God forbid, 8.0, you're not going to be able to grow much.
Now, this study didn't say what the pH was in these soils, but it's clearly saying it's crazy high, so...
So let's suppose maybe that means 7.5 or 8.0.
It's certainly not in the range where it needs to be, like 6.0 or 6.5 for most plants, and then for some plants like blueberries, you really want to be more on the acidic side.
Like, strongly acidic side for blueberries, it turns out.
But I guess there won't be any blueberries growing anywhere in those areas because of the soils.
Now all the minerals are locked up in the soils because the pH is too high.
So now you're going to cause malnutrition, mineral deficiency, even if you can manage to grow the crops.
So this train derailment accident, which looks a lot like, kind of like the 9-11 of the railways, doesn't it?
It's going to make food crops less nutritious, even if you can grow them.
In many areas, you won't be able to grow them at all.
Now, by the way, just a quick lab update.
Ever since that event, we've been trying to get a dioxin testing protocol online in our lab, and we're very close now.
We went through a lot of difficulty because we purchased a triple quad GC instrument, and it turned out to be the wrong instrument.
We actually sent that back to that manufacturer, and we did some more research.
We got the correct instrument from a different manufacturer.
And that instrument's been in place in our lab for many months now, and it's up and running, no problem.
But sample prep is what's very difficult for dioxin samples.
And that's because dioxins attach to fats.
And when you're doing sample prep with foods that have a lot of lipids in them, you have to get rid of the lipids.
Otherwise, you'll gum up your mass spec instruments in no time.
And also you have to use certain solvents that will allow dioxins to go into solution while you're taking out all the lipids.
So there's very specific dioxin and PCB preparation equipment, what's called sample extraction and sample cleanup.
And some of that stuff is hundreds of thousands of dollars, which we could not justify in this case.
But we finally did find a provider of a semi-automated provider.
A dioxin prep, sample prep and sample cleanup system.
And we have already put in the purchase order for that several weeks ago, waiting for that to arrive.
And then we will set that up.
At some point, I'll show you a video of this.
I'll walk you through it at the lab.
But we have to...
We have to be trained on this, and then we have to, of course, validate it.
And it's interesting because these lipid removal tubes, they're like cylindrical cartridges.
They're really huge.
I mean, for a lab, they're huge.
Some of them, let's say, are about the size of a Pringles can.
You know, like Pringles potato chips.
It's like, why are these all the exact same shape again?
Why?
Because I've never seen potatoes that are shaped like that, but whatever.
You're not going to get any potatoes this year because Idaho said no irrigation in Idaho now, right?
So good luck for Pringles.
But anyway, some of these cartridges are just massive, and that's to take out like five grams of lipids.
Because you have to use massive sample sizes here.
We're talking like...
10 or 20 grams of sample, which is a lot, because you're trying to find, like, femtograms or picograms of dioxins, which...
So you have to have a big sample size in order to get just a tiny amount of dioxin that'll show up on your mass spec instrument.
So anyway...
We're closer to setting this up now than ever before, but I am truly very concerned about what we're going to see.
Once we start going to the grocery store and buying just off-the-shelf cheese or milk or hamburger meat or just animal products, maybe eggs, just animal products, what kind of dioxins are we going to see in those products?
I honestly don't know.
But what I'm told through the research is that there's a background level, there's dioxins in all these foods.
It's never zero.
It's always something.
The question is just, how much?
And if it causes cancer at femtograms, you're like, oh my god, how does anybody avoid this?
Unless you're a vegan, right?
So I guess for those of you listening who are vegans, well, guess what?
You got something right there.
You're probably not eating dioxins.
But everybody else that's loading up on milk and butter and eggs and cheese and meat, you're probably getting a pretty heavy dioxin dose.
That's for sure.
Good news is there are some things that you can do to help defend yourself against edible contaminants and to help detoxify.
And from our research, I think we did a whole article on this right after this accident in Ohio.
But chlorella and spirulina are two of the best superfoods that can help your body naturally detoxify following a dioxin exposure through foods.
So that's actually good to know.
That's why anytime that I ever eat meat products of any kind or animal products, I make sure that I also take some greens, you know, in the form of typically chlorella with something else.
Sometimes like various microalgae combined with like vegetable powders, things like that.
Always think about detox when you're eating any kind of a meat product or animal product today because we no longer live in a world that is pristine.
We live in a world that is heavily contaminated and the government agencies are in total denial about the level of contamination.
Even Senator J.D. Vance As much as I think he would make a great vice president, like I said earlier, I don't have any disagreement with the guy.
He's got a lot of political courage, you know?
But if he walked through that stream barefoot, with his bare skin touching the stream that was downstream from the fallout, he's got cancer.
I mean, his life is a ticking time bomb of cancer.
And just saying that it's all clean and everything doesn't actually matter because dioxins don't care what you said.
Cause and effect.
These chemicals are so incredibly toxic that, I mean, honestly, I don't even want them in the lab as standards, but we have to have standards, you know, for the instrument calibration.
But I don't want to be around these chemicals at all.
People are eating them.
Imagine that.
One final thing, if you're wondering, how do dioxins get into the animal products?
It's from the feed.
So, dioxins are falling out of the air all the time, mostly because people are burning household trash in rural areas.
So, you've probably seen this.
You've probably smelled it before.
This is one of my pet peeves.
I'm going to call the sheriff next time somebody burns some toxic trash anywhere near me.
If I can smell it, I'm calling the sheriff.
I'm going to call Texas Department of Environmental Quality.
Seriously.
But people burn plastic, and they burn clothing, and they burn household trash, which often includes PVC. And you know who's the worst at this?
Well, let me say, when you burn all that stuff, it just releases dioxins, it goes into the air, and then it falls on the farms downwind, the ranches that's eaten by the cows, you know, the grass.
And then the cows, the dioxins accumulate through, you know, bioaccumulation and the fat cells.
But you know who's the worst at burning trash illegally?
And this isn't racist.
This is a straight-up observation.
Latinos.
Yeah.
Mexicans, what have you.
Mexicans, Central Americans, South Americans.
Those of you who are of Mexican ethnicity, you're probably laughing because, oh yeah, they burn anything.
They do.
They just load up like after home construction.
They'll just make a big burn pile of all the waste from all the home construction because it's cheaper than buying a roll-off dumpster.
They'll just set fire to it.
I've seen this numerous times.
It's always Mexicans doing this, man.
They just set fire to it.
That's releasing dioxins into all the surrounding farm fields, by the way.
The other thing that I've seen Mexican work crews do, by the way, is just if they have an excavator, they'll dig a big trench and they'll just bury it all.
Like right on the property, hoping the homeowner never knows.
Well, it's safer than burning it, actually, interestingly.
But they don't believe in actually disposing of trash in a way that like collecting all the soda cans and water bottles and potato chip bags and fast food wrappers and putting them in a trash bag and carrying them off site.
Like that has never occurred to a Latino construction crew.
Now, instead, the way this works, and trust me, I don't have anything against the ethnicity of Latinos.
I mean, I welcome Latino culture in Texas, but this is one of the things that's a tick mark against them, okay?
This is a negative thing about the culture.
They trash every construction site.
They just throw trash everywhere.
And if you've ever driven through Panama and you looked on the side of the highway, you're like, oh, now it makes total sense, yeah, because this is like a highway of trash, right?
And it's true throughout Central America, South America, most of Mexico.
They trash their own streets and countries and they trash commercial sites, they trash construction sites, they trash everything.
Or they burn it, okay?
I mean, this is all related to contamination.
This is all related to dioxins in your food.
It's because people burn trash.
So, by the way, if you ever see people burning trash, call the sheriff on them.
Because that's illegal.
They should be given a ticket.
Or thrown in jail.
Depending on what they're burning, right?
Some people burn tires and motor oil.
Like, they'll take their used oil filters from their tractors and what have you.
They'll throw them in like a steel barrel with some household trash.
Just set fire to it.
Like, wow, what is that horrible black smoke coming out?
Oh, that's burning motor oil.
Or they'll just set fire to a bunch of tires because it's cheaper than getting rid of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then people wonder why they die from cancer.
Well, that's why, because you're burning up all the stuff that causes cancer.
I mean, is humanity just freaking retarded or what?
How stupid can people be?
Wonder why they have cancer.
Well, they have cancer fire in their backyard, you know, for God's sake.
So I have a tip for you, by the way.
I think I'll do this on the next construction project that we have.
I'm going to have it in the contract that for every soda can or, like, Energizer drink, plastic bottle, for every fast food wrapper or every plastic bag left behind by the construction crew, I get $25.
Let's go around and collect all the trash, add it up, and that's how much the construction company, that's what I deduct from what I pay them.
$25 per piece of trash.
I'm going to have it in the contract because I'm tired of picking up people's trash.
All right, now let's talk about the other form of national suicide, which is trying to start World War III with Russia.
So over the weekend, again, it pains me to have to cover this.
I wish I did not have to cover this.
In fact, this disgusts me.
But there was an Atakum's missile that unleashed cluster munitions onto a beach in Crimea, reportedly through multiple sources over the weekend.
And let's see...
Said that there were numerous civilian casualties, including almost 30 children.
That's wounded plus dead.
And Russia has announced that they know that the Pentagon puts in the targeting information on this.
From RT, which is of course funded by Russia, says targets for Ukrainian Atakums missiles are chosen on the basis of American satellite data.
The Russian Defense Ministry has said...
And then, from the Defense Ministry, all the flight tasks for the Atakums missiles are assigned by American specialists on the basis of their own U.S. satellite intelligence data.
Therefore, responsibility for the deliberate missile strike on civilians in Sevastopol lies primarily with Washington, which supplied these weapons to Ukraine, as well as the Kiev regime, from whose territory this attack was launched.
And they say that these actions will not be left unanswered.
Now, of course, this is exactly what the Pentagon wants.
So this is a bait trap here, okay?
This is America trying to start World War III by engaging in terrorist attacks against Russian civilians.
Now, I'm going to play for you a seven-second video that...
It's claimed to be from that attack on the beach.
Haven't been able to confirm this video yet, but it seems to be portraying events that we know have taken place because of reporting from multiple sources.
So you're going to hear people start to scream and run and you're going to see some very frantic imagery while you hear the cluster munitions thudding into the beach, the sand.
In the background, and they are exploding, and they are shredding women and children and men and tearing people's limbs apart.
So seven seconds.
There's actually not any blood in this video.
It's not visual.
There are some aftermath videos that I'm not going to show, but this seven seconds shows you what the attack actually, how it started.
So that was the attack.
And then, of course, we have the Ministry of Defense from Russia already denouncing this attack. - Yeah.
And then if you go to Sputnik, Scott Ritter has already posted a column on this.
Or he's responded on this.
He says that it's a direct attack on Russia by U.S. and NATO. And from that story, it says, on Sunday, the Ukrainian armed forces attacked Russia's Sevastopol using U.S.-made attack of missiles with cluster warheads, four of which were shot down and one deflected and exploded over the city.
Scott Ritter says the Ukrainians made a decision to use Atakum's missiles equipped with cluster munitions against a civilian city.
This is an act of terrorism.
He goes on to say that Ukraine since 2014 has been bombarding Russian civilian sites, cities, villages, and towns for the sole purpose of inflicting death and destruction on Russian civilians.
This is an act of terrorism, and given that the Atakim's missiles cannot be deployed by the Ukrainians without extensive intelligence support by the United States, this, he says, is an act of terrorism by the United States against Russia.
So some of you might say, well, there are Ukrainian civilians that are killed by Russian missiles.
And that is true.
But there's a huge difference.
In nearly every case, when Ukrainian civilians are killed, it's because they were in close proximity to a military or infrastructure target that Russia was trying to hit.
Russia isn't targeting civilians, but the United States and Ukraine are directly targeting Russian civilians that are nowhere near military bases, electrical infrastructure, you know, ammo depots or anything of the kind.
So this is the Pentagon and the Ukraine government deliberately carrying out acts of terrorism to cause massive destruction, widespread death of Russian civilians.
And the point of that, of course, is to provoke Russia into an emotional response.
The West needs to be able to say, well, Russia attacked us!
Look at this huge attack!
Because they're trying to goad Putin into saying, basically, you know, damn it!
No more!
Hit him with everything!
Like, that's what the West wants.
And so far it's only because Putin has been very disciplined that that has not happened.
But if these kinds of attacks continue, I don't know how long cooler heads can prevail, so to speak.
And this is what the West wants.
They want Russia to be incensed, to be angry enough to launch a barrage of missiles or even nuclear weapons.
At European targets so that the West can enter the war, cancel the election, you know, draft all the American men, the young men, and send them off to war so they can be replaced by illegal immigrants who will spread trash all over the place, as I mentioned earlier.
So right now we are on the verge.
I mean...
My God.
We're living under an insane sociopathic government.
I mean, those of us who are Americans or Europeans, we're living under insane governments that are quite literally trying to start World War III by carrying out bombings of children and women that were on the beach.
And this is designed to make Russia so steaming mad that they just launch everything at the West.
And then the West, you know, will say, gosh, you know, we've been attacked.
So Article 5, bring in all of NATO and launch nukes against Russia, knowing that Russia will nuke them back, knowing that that will destroy U.S. cities.
And then that's their cover story for the financial collapse.
What an amazing event.
It's their cover story for canceling elections.
It's their cover story for canceling freedom of speech.
Do you realize that the moment one nuclear weapon detonates in North America, we're going to be under instant martial law, and there will be no elections, and there will be no freedom of speech whatsoever.
You understand that?
And you won't be able to buy gasoline or food just whenever you want.
It'll be rationed.
It'll be controlled.
Come on.
Including medications and Including firearms and ammo.
Everything that you can imagine is going to be locked down.
COVID was a tiny little teaser drill compared to what's coming.
The World War III lockdowns.
No speech.
No civil rights.
No human rights.
You do what we say.
Because, well, we're in a war.
Therefore, you have to obey, obey, obey.
This is what's coming.
We're very close to this right now.
And, yeah, I'm a little bit overly concerned about this.
I need to probably step back and chill out a little bit and just focus on getting through this and teaching skills as much as possible on how to help people through this.
Do you realize how screwed the people are who don't even know this is coming?
You realize how totally effed they are.
We might have to send them a bottle of nattocanase with 5,000 FUs.
They are so screwed.
And I have people like this in my family.
You probably do too.
And they're beyond hope.
Just totally beyond hope.
Because they're not...
These are the people who are jabbed and they're not willing to accept any information rooted in reality because they're living in such a delusional Truman show.
Their artificial construct is so compelling to their gas lit psyche that they can't accept any real information that represents reality.
So when you say to these people, hey, we're on the verge of global nuclear war.
Have you thought about preparedness?
Their answer is something like, oh, stop being negative.
Oh, okay.
Okay, well then, when your skin is melting off from your face, because you didn't duck and cover, and you still live in a blue city that's going to be a nuclear target, when your skin is peeling off, I'll remind you to stop being negative.
Look in the mirror.
Hey, look at the bright side.
You know, when you look in the mirror, I'll say, look at the bright side.
No one will notice the wrinkles.
No one will notice your hair is gray because it's all fallen out.
Yeah.
You won't get any complaints about bad breath because you'll be puking up your stomach organs.
Yeah.
Ooh, wow.
Welcome to radiation poisoning and fallout.
Okay, sorry, I don't mean to get that graphic, but people want to live in a delusional reality.
This is what they're going to get.
They're going to get...
Melted into the masonry, you know?
They'll be like a shadow of whatever pose they were in.
You know, like Wild E. Coyote on the Roadrunner cartoons when he went through or like he hit a wall and then they peeled him off the wall and there was like a shadow.
That's what's going to happen to a lot of these people if they're lucky enough to be next to a stone wall when the You know, when the bombs go off.
Otherwise, if they're just in their wooden stick drywall homes, there'll be nothing left.
It'll all be turned to ash.
Oh, but don't be negative.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, live in your delusional fairytale life and don't be negative and good luck.
No, clearly I need to step away from this issue for a little bit.
I think that when my life is over and I am...
At the pearly gates and have a conversation with our Creator.
And I will say, you know God, I did my best to help save as many people as possible.
And God will say, Didn't we all?
Yeah, like, me too.
And still, there's a lot of people not here.
So, you do your best, you help as many people as you can, and every individual makes their own choice.
Some end up burning in hell, some end up burning into ash on earth, and then burning in hell.
Man, wouldn't that be horrible?
To be the evil person who's going to burn in hell, but first you burn into ash because you're also a denier of reality and nuclear war.
Like a double burn, right?
That sounds bad.
It's like your whole body burns to ash.
I guess in an instant, maybe you don't feel that much, but you're like, and then it's over and then There's like a pause as your soul goes to hell because you're like an evil Jeffrey Epstein, a child trafficker, Democrat or whatever.
And then, an instant later, you wake up in hell and you're still on fire like, oh my god, I thought that was over.
Nope.
Welcome to hell.
It's just beginning.
Yeah.
That's called a double burn.
You don't want to end up there.
And you know, there's another thing, there's a karmic element to all of this.
Do you realize that all the Democrats who cheated in the 2020 election, you know, who participated in the cheating, the ballot stuffing, the ballot mules, just the rig counting, all of it, and then as a result they put in power this illegitimate regime that's pushing us into World War, World War III. Do you realize that the first cities to be hit in the war were Are the cities where the cheaters live?
You realize that?
Yeah.
Rigged elections have catastrophic consequences, folks, so maybe you shouldn't rig elections.
But I guess we'll see.
All right.
Speaking of elections and such, as I promised, I have an interview today for you with Roger Stone.
And I recorded this interview just late last week.
Roger Stone has a lot to say.
I think this is a really great interview with Roger, and he's a little more cool-headed than I am at the moment.
But we cover a lot of things.
We cover Trump, we cover elections, we cover the economy, war, Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Hezbollah, Which is also another very dangerous situation, and Israel is likely to use nuclear weapons first, according to the concerns of Colonel Douglas McGregor, who mentioned that over the weekend.
He believes there's a fair chance that Israel will use nuclear weapons in southern Lebanon.
And you're starting to see Israelis online making threats about turning Beirut into Gaza.
I mean, how sick are these people, you know?
They take great joy in leveling cities, turning them into rubble, and just mass slaughtering women and children in the rubble.
And they celebrate this.
These are Zionists.
This is what they do.
And they'll probably nuke southern Lebanon.
And do you realize that when the first nuke goes off in southern Lebanon, which is, again, probably not that far away, Do you have any idea what's going to be set off globally?
I mean, in the markets, in the stock market, in gold and silver, in oil, fuel, in just panic, panic buying of everything.
Do you have any idea what that's going to set off?
Like, we're back into nuclear war because of Netanyahu and the U.S. providing Israel with illegal nuclear weapons.
Here we are at the edge of the destruction of human civilization because of a bunch of Zionists that are totally out of control.
They just want to mass murder everybody around them.
Now it's Lebanon.
A nuke is probably coming.
And when that day comes, it's too late to do all the things that I've been urging people to do in terms of preparedness and skills and getting out of the cities and getting out of the dollar and all these other things.
When that first nuke drops, it's too late because then there's going to be a...
A mad rush for the exits out of, you know, dollars and mad rush for gasoline and diesel.
I mean, the world's going to change from that day, and it's not going to be a pretty change.
I just hope you're all ready.
By the way, I've got an interview coming up this week with Ivan Raiklin, so you don't want to miss that.
There's some good interviews coming up.
Very good ones.
Wow, I'm looking at the list.
This is freaking awesome.
Okay.
Everybody, stay cool.
Actually, I'm reminding myself.
Just sharing that with you.
Mike, stay cool.
Don't lose it, man.
I have a lot of compassion for humanity.
I have a lot of concern, and I can see where this is going.
And it's not pretty.
And we've got a bunch of lunatics in charge.
They don't give a crap about humanity.
And they're trying to carry out mass death and destruction on a global scale.
That's why I'm concerned.
Because I can see this.
We're like a runaway train on train tracks going over a bridge and the bridge is out.
And it's like a 200 foot plunge into a chasm below.
And everybody on the train is like, this is awesome!
Go faster!
You know, the train's being driven by the money printing machine like they're shoveling dollar bills into the firebox.
Like, faster, faster, faster!
You know, instead of coal.
Shoveling dollars in there.
And I'm on the train.
I'm like, I have a monocular and I'm looking ahead at the tracks.
I'm like, ah, looks like those tracks...
Looks like the bridge is out.
You know, I'm seeing a gap up ahead.
Maybe we should slow this thing down.
Oh, hell no!
Full speed ahead!
Economy is booming, booming, booming!
War is good, good, good, say the Democrats now.
War is good!
And even the conservatives and the Republicans, Zionism is great and Zionist war is the best combination ever.
You know, Lindsey Graham, bomb Iran, bomb Iran, trains hurtling.
And I'm looking on the sides of like, can I bail off this train?
Can I like tuck and roll off the side of this thing?
Can I leap and throw a parachute or something?
How do I get off this train?
Like, that's the metaphor in my mind that's happening right now.
And I'm turning to all the other passengers like, we all need to get the bleep off this train!
It's all going to plunge into the ravine!
And some of the people are like, oh my god, you're right!
Let's figure out how to get off this train!
And the other people are like, stop being negative, you know?
Okay!
Okay!
You plungers!
The rest of us, we're going to find an exit somehow.
We're going to exit this train.
The rest of you, you can go ahead and be plungers.
So that's there.
That's kind of a graphic description of where I am in my head right now.
How close we are to the edge.
Not pretty.
All right, so here's what I'm going to do.
Since we're on the train theme, I'm going to play a little verse for you from Neil Diamond.
Beautiful noise.
Oh, yeah.
It's the clickety-clack of the train on the track.
It's got rhythm to spare.
Right?
So let's do that, and then we'll go to the interview with Roger Stone.
Here we go.
It's a beautiful noise Going on everywhere Like the clickety-flack of a train on a track It's got rhythm to spare It's a beautiful noise And it's the sound that I love Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and today our guest is the one and only Roger Stone.
Joining us from, of course, his website, StoneZone.com.
And he joins us for, I think, what's going to be a fascinating interview because, I mean, just to start out with, he is being dragged through the mud with a bunch of hit pieces now based on something that he said at Mar-a-Lago that makes perfect sense to me.
But, Roger, welcome to the show.
And you want to start with that?
Yeah, Mike, first of all, it's great to be back with you.
Several months ago, I was at an event at Mar-a-Lago.
It was actually a Catholic event.
And I was talking to a couple of young ladies, and evidently one of them was surreptitiously, actually illegally in the state of Florida, recording me.
And I had the audacity, Mike, I'm absolutely busted.
They caught me red-handed, advocating that every possible legal and technical aspect of the 2024 election be employed to make sure that we have a free, fair, honest election.
And this, of course, has been distorted almost immediately by the usual suspects, Rolling Stone, the Daily Beast, news breakers, and now the mother of them all, MSNBC. And of course, they distort what I said.
Stone reveals stunning plan to steal 2024 election.
I mean, it's laughable nonsense, but it is amazing how all these fake news media outlets I'm spending the afternoon.
I reviewed what I said.
It's what I say in my speeches.
They caught me saying on video what I've said in speeches across the country.
Within the last week in Detroit at the Turning Point USA conference at a conservative caucus meeting outside of Chicago.
And then yesterday in Las Vegas took the red eye back.
So if I look a little prayed around the edges, you'll understand.
Well, Roger, thank you for sharing this with us.
I look forward to your response.
But as you know, most of those media outlets that you mentioned are losing audiences.
Many of them are losing money.
Some are laying off, or a lot of them are laying off staff.
And some are probably about to shut down in the next year or so.
They're really desperate.
And isn't it interesting that, you know, recently the videos of Joe Biden kind of wandering off zombie-like, They were described by the White House as deep fakes or cheap fakes.
That's fake.
When you have a video of Joe Biden, that's fake.
But then they say when they have a video of you, it's no problem for them to take it out of context, which is what they accused conservatives of doing with the Joe Biden video, which was not taken out of context.
So it's like they play these games with you, but they don't follow their own rules.
Mike, you're exactly right.
If you can smell it, what you smell is desperation.
In this particular case, a progressive filmmaker, documentary filmmaker, who goes by the name of Lauren Windsor, actually on the payroll of the Democratic National Committee, I posted those documents yesterday, Violated Florida law,
where we're clearly a two-part state, to make a video in which I didn't say anything that I haven't said in public, which is the Republicans and the Trump effort need to do an excellent job of election integrity.
That means that Do you have lawyers standing by?
Do you have availability to the courts if you need to file an emergency motion?
You remember that night in Detroit?
had the Republican observers physically removed the Detroit police.
Now, the proper procedure would have been to go directly to a judge to get an emergency order, to request an emergency order to stay that process.
But, of course, that didn't happen because the Michigan Republican Party was not prepared.
So there's really no controversy here.
I was talking to Jack Posobiec, who looked at the video and said, gee, all you've really done here is advocate for election integrity.
That is precisely the point.
My lawyers are taking a look at whether or not I have a lawsuit against Ms.
Windsor, she kind of runs with that Rolling Stone, MSNBC, Molly Jong Slo, I like to call her a crowd.
But they're very arrogant.
The law, as you know, is only for us.
It's not for them.
They violate the law with impunity, it seems.
Well, it reminds me of when the group in California, I forgot their names, when they recorded a video interview with an abortion clinic where they admitted to selling baby parts for money and violating numerous laws.
Well, Kamala Harris at the time began the prosecution, I believe, of those individuals.
And again, I'm sorry, I don't recall exactly their names at the moment, but you see what I'm talking about.
They will prosecute when somebody exposes an abortion clinic, but what about in Florida?
Will the AG of Florida level criminal charges against this person that you say violated your rights in Florida?
Sure.
Well, Mike, it's hard to say.
Look, I'm not an attorney, but I did look at the law.
I think it's a Class 3 felony, actually.
We'll find out.
I mean, certainly I will pursue legal action, not because I said anything wrong, not because it was a gotcha moment, but because of the illegal act which led to this distortion.
Whether I have an action against those fake news outlets that took what they probably did, Secret and therefore illegal recording to smear me.
Well, I'm going to take a look at that as well.
You have to fight fire with fire, but they're going insane because I said in my remarks that, yes, you need to be prepared to access a judge if there's violation of the law.
Sorry, but there's nothing wrong with that.
That gets interpreted too.
Stone has obviously rigged the judge in the Florida documents case.
I did say, and I stand by this, that I still think in the end that case gets dismissed.
Now, that was my opinion, and I stated it in the video.
Although the judge in that case did dismiss a motion to dismiss the case, did reject it, I should say.
I still believe that when she scheduled the broader hearing into the legality and legitimacy of Jack Smith's appointment, that that could indeed lead to the dismissal of the cases against President Trump in both Florida that that could indeed lead to the dismissal of the cases against President So I may yet be proven right about that.
But now at this point in America, venturing an opinion, if you're a conservative or if you believe in health freedom or if you're a free thinker or a libertarian, there must be something wrong with you.
Roger, there's something I don't understand here.
It's that you can say things that, in my view, are very minor compared to the more public dialogue that's taking place.
And the media likes to jump on you like you've committed some kind of horrible crime.
And yet, every day...
People are saying far more aggressive or assertive things.
For example, attorney and former Green Beret Ivan Raiklin put out a video not that long ago saying there's going to be mass arrests of 80,000 traitors or something.
I forgot the exact number.
And these mass arrests are going to be live-streamed.
I think it's sort of implying after Trump gets into office.
Now, Trump isn't endorsing that kind of claim, but that's something that Ivan Raikland said.
And he was that video was very popular.
I mean, I commented on that video.
But what you are saying is is is so minor.
You're just calling for election.
I don't what.
Why are you like a magnet for all the hit pieces when you're not even saying anything crazy?
A couple of reasons, Mike.
First of all, I'm clickbait.
In other words, Rolling Stone, which is on the verge of collapse because no one's reading it, laying people off and so on, they're desperate for the revenue that comes when people click on their fake news.
So that is one of the answers.
I am so despised on the left, I'm a guaranteed click by these fascist freaks who despise me.
That's one reason.
The other reason, I like to think, is because I'm pretty effective.
I'm a veteran, as you know, of 13 national Republican presidential campaigns.
I know something about the art and science of getting elected and doing so legally.
And therefore, they think they can hamper my involvement or my effectiveness or maybe even shut me up like they've tried to do to our good friend Alex Jones, like evidently they're trying to do now to the folks at the Gateway Pundit.
I just read an incredible case there where the bankruptcy trustee appears to now be abusing that process as they did with Alex Jones.
Could it be because the Gateway Pundit is one of the most influential conservative news outlets out there?
I think that's the one thing we all have here in common.
As it is with Alex Jones, this is about shutting me up, silencing me.
They would like to silence me in some way.
Maybe they think I can be intimidated.
Perhaps they don't remember the FBI raid on my home at 6 o'clock in the morning.
I don't intimidate very easily.
Well, Roger, that's a great line.
You don't intimidate easily.
If anything, they're amplifying your voice because of all these attacks.
You mentioned Alex Jones, and I was reminded of a headline.
I think it was in The Atlantic just recently.
Something like, Alex Jones lost everything and he's still winning.
And it's like, yes!
Like, you can't stop Alex Jones.
You can take away whatever bank accounts.
You can take away intellectual property.
You can't stop Alex Jones.
You can't stop Roger Stone either.
But they never learn from this, do they?
They just keep thinking they can silence everybody.
I know what you say is absolutely true.
Look, if they took away Alex Jones' studio and all of his equipment, you and I both know he'll stand out on the street corner with a bullhorn and continue to speak the truth.
That's right.
He's a force of nature.
He's a true patriot, and he's never going to stop exposing the truth.
As we both know, he's turned out to be right about so much, certainly far more than he turned out to be wrong about.
But you see, we're a threat to them.
We're a threat because they liked the situation they had in 2020 when they had a monopoly on discourse.
Of course, if they can silence you on, say, Facebook, Instagram, in the old days, Twitter, TikTok, and so on.
And by the way, I'm still banned on all those sites with the exception of X, formerly Twitter.
Well, frankly, I'm grateful to Elon Musk that I have my voice back.
I do think there's some odd disparities in the number of people reading and following myself.
And that's not even all the time.
But nonetheless, they really do intend to use the exact same tactics of cancellation, of censorship that they used to steal the last election.
Yes, yes.
Well, Roger, you may or may not be aware, but we filed a significant lawsuit against the federal government on Memorial Day.
We're suing the Department of Defense, State Department.
Homeland Security, Mayorkas, and Google, and Meta, as well as NewsGuard, and Twitter.
And we're suing Twitter for the reason you mentioned, because they still shadow ban most of us, including Alex Jones, by the way.
It seems like the censorship industrial complex is being exposed more and more every day.
There are also more and more alternatives that are doing very well while the establishment left-wing media is losing money, laying off staff.
But isn't it interesting, Roger, you know, the only way that Alex Jones goes bankrupt is through lawfare.
But the way the left-wing media goes bankrupt is because they suck.
You know, really.
Nobody believes them.
And what you say is true.
You see, it's not...
For example, the Biden administration can post doctored employment figures.
They can post doctored inflation figures.
I had a great conversation with Barry Habib, who's one of the most respected experts on the mortgage market and the housing market, and also a brilliant economic analyst, and he pointed out to me exactly how they manipulate these numbers.
But what really matters is how people feel.
It's not some statistic which is abstract for them.
Either you can find affordable housing or you can't.
Either you can find a full-time job or you can't.
Either the dollar, when you take it to the grocery store, buys as much as it used to or it does not.
So the Biden administration and their handmaidens in the fake news media can keep telling us everything's great, but the American people have caught on to the fact that none of that is true.
And that's why I think you see this resurgence by Donald Trump, who, despite this Effort in the fourth year of Joe Biden's presidency to weaponize the court system against him, the criminal justice system, has bounced back and is in a highly competitive campaign for president with a slight lead.
Now, as I said when we were out in Detroit, great event, by the way, Turning Point USA. Alex Jones showed up as a surprise guest, which is I might imagine Mike was a huge hit because he's a martyr for this movement.
I think our greatest danger here right now is overconfidence.
The greatest danger is thinking that, oh, this election is in the bag because, well, Trump's ahead and so on.
I'll give you an example.
In 2016, turnout among evangelical Christians was about 78%.
In 2020, turnout among evangelical Christians was down to 63%.
I think many people thought after the economy rebounded, after the COVID-19 pandemic, that Trump would win easily.
And of course, that was not the case.
So I think if there's any real danger today, it is the danger of overconfidence.
I do think we're going to win.
I pray about it because I think we could use a little help.
I've been very open about my redemption in the blood of the cross and the fact that, yes, I say the rosary every night and I'm praying for specific people.
Alex Jones would be a perfect example of them, but there are others.
My list seems to get longer and longer.
It starts targeting more and more of my friends, like Jeff Clark, for example, who was at the Justice Department.
They're seeking to destroy him.
Rudy Giuliani, another good man, they're seeking to destroy.
I pray for all these people, and I pray in the final analysis, Mike, I pray for victory.
I really pray for the physical protection of the president and his family.
As you know, the first book I wrote, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, is about the Kennedy assassination.
And I make a pretty comprehensive case that Kennedy was murdered in a plot that involved the Central Intelligence Agency, the Secret Service, the acquiescence of the FBI, Big Texas Oil, organized crime, and others.
So if they did it once and got away with it, which very clearly they did, I think it is conceivable that they could try it again.
I know that Tucker Carlson may be the first guy to bring this up.
It's delicate because it's so unpleasant.
No, to those folks over at Media Matters for America, Roger Stone did not just to predict the assassination of Donald Trump.
See, that's the kind of distortion games they like.
Of course.
But it is something we need to be praying about because these folks are desperate.
You just made reference to it, speaking about our friend Ivan Ricklin, who's a good friend of mine.
No, we're not seeking revenge.
That's not what this is about.
What it is about is equal protection under the law.
I was charged falsely, very much like the case in New York with Donald Trump, with lying to Congress.
In my voluntary testimony when I had no motive to lie because there was no underlying crime to lie about.
No Russian collusion, no WikiLeaks collaboration.
Government never produced any evidence that those things existed.
In fact, in their final report, Robert Mueller admitted that he could find no such evidence and I had committed no crime.
So they were able to prosecute me on the narrow process crime of lying to Congress.
Even though to be guilty of the False Statements Act, your false statement has to be willful and it has to cover up or be connected to some underlying crime.
This is identical to what happened to Donald Trump in New York, where they take these financial transactions, which at worst would be a misdemeanor in a business records case, And they catapult that into being a felony, even though they can't identify what the underlying larger crime is, almost identical to my case.
Then the more I looked at it, the more I realized that my case was the template, was the dry run for the prosecution of Trump.
We were both subjected to an unconstitutional gag.
Our trials were both handled by By hateful, biased judges.
My judge attacked Alex Jones and Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson from the bench during my trial because evidently the judge felt that she can't be criticized.
Well, Roger, what's extraordinary about this, and thank you for that explanation, and that's fascinating that you're talking about how your case was a template for the prosecution of Trump.
But what you're revealing here is exactly why there's so much more love for Trump across America today.
Because that court case, those 34 felonies, I believe it was, anybody who looks at that case realizes that The justice system has failed.
It's been turned into fraud.
It's been weaponized against our president, President Trump, who I would say actually won two elections so far already and is about to win a third one, most likely, in terms of the actual voting of the people.
But that's my opinion, not necessarily yours.
But what I'm saying is that this is backfiring against Trump.
I mean, you've got centrist people now saying, this is crazy.
If we don't support Trump and reform or, let's say, restore the proper functioning of the judicial system in this country, we have no constitutional republic left whatsoever, and it's not safe for any of us.
Whether you're on the left or the right or the center, whether you're white, black, gay, straight, whatever, if the government can be weaponized against you, you're not safe in this country.
More and more people are realizing that.
I completely agree with that.
When I spoke to the conservative caucus outside of Chicago the other night, I went through all the similarities between my case and the case against the president.
The refusal to move the venue, the refusal, for example, to lift the gag order, and so on.
And I said to the crowd, just remember, if it happened to me, and it happened to Donald Trump, well then it can happen to you.
That's right.
That's precisely what's happening in the country.
People are waking up and realizing that there, but for the grace of God, go they, go them, Did I get my pronouns mixed up there?
I'm not sure.
You're allowed to mix and match pronouns now.
You can throw in like fairies and angels and everything else now too, whatever you want.
It's all good.
Unicorns.
Unicorns.
So here's the real question, Mike, and that is...
Since these folks have a great tendency to overreach, just as they've overreached on these attacks on me today, any reasonable person who goes and listens to that video will see that everything I said was perfectly legal and proper.
It's what the Republicans didn't do in the last election that they need to do in the upcoming election.
Which is to use every technical and legal advantage that they possibly can to win, to ensure that we have a free, fair, honest and transparent election.
But here's the real question.
With sentencing coming up, will they put Donald Trump in jail?
Will they incarcerate him?
Only days before the Republican National Convention.
What do you think?
Will they?
I think they will.
You see, if this is about election interference, and it is, what could be a greater act of election interference than to deny him the ability to go to the convention to accept the nomination and give his acceptance speech?
That would be quite extraordinary.
I personally think it will be overreaching extraordinarily and it will backfire even worse than what they have already done.
But they have no sense of proportion because they're demented.
They are so disturbed by Trump derangement syndrome that it clouds their political judgment.
And I think they're going to overreach, which could in effect Only help Trump in the final days.
Now, we also have this debate coming up, which is, I must tell you, unheard of.
First time we've had a debate prior to the national conventions.
Donald Trump and Joe Biden at this point, while they may be the presumptive nominees, neither one of them is at this juncture the legal nominee of their party.
And I think this upcoming debate has enormous risk for both of them.
So you have two huge events here, which I think are going to greatly affect this race.
They think that those things are going to affect Trump negatively.
I actually think in the end they're both going to affect him positively.
Well, it's pretty clear to me, and thank you for that analysis, I agree with you.
I think they're going to put Trump in jail.
That's going to backfire in a spectacular fashion.
And during the debates, it's clear to me that all Trump has to do is carry himself in a presidential fashion.
Don't fall for the bait.
Don't become an attack dog.
He's not even going to be allowed to interrupt Biden like what happened four years ago, roughly, because the mics will be turned off.
All Trump has to do is just tell the truth about the failures of Biden's economy, the success of the Trump economy, and just behave in a presidential fashion.
Then I think he wins.
I mean, wins the debate.
I agree with that.
See, I think this is a tactic that went wrong.
In other words, I think Joe Biden and his handlers don't want him to debate for all the obvious reasons.
So they said, well, we'll challenge Trump to meet us in the CNN debate and He will clearly see that it's a setup and he'll decline.
And then we can say, okay, well, that's it.
You see, we offered to debate him.
He refuses.
There'll be no debates.
I think they were shocked when Trump quite fearlessly kind of jumped right in and said, okay, I said any place, any time, I'll be there.
I'm not sure that he focused on the disadvantages, but if you have Jake the fake tapper and Dana Bash as the moderators, so when you combine them with Joe Biden, that's three on one.
The good news is I think Donald Trump can handle all three of them if he has to.
Of course, they could turn his microphone off, but again, that would be overplaying their hand if they choose to do so.
They might say, well, you have to appear in an orange jumpsuit because you're a felon now.
It's become a mockery of the normal electoral process.
But the more that that's exposed, I think the more...
Americans come to their senses, at least those in the center.
They come to their senses and realize how far gone this republic is and how critical it is to bring it back.
And also, whatever the question is, all Trump has to say is, how much are you paying for groceries, folks?
How much are you paying for car insurance, health insurance, business insurance?
I mean, come on.
Biden's economy is a disaster.
And it's obvious.
That's not something you can hide from people, because people buy groceries and pay insurance premiums.
So you can't hide it.
I just minutes ago saw a headline in the story, haven't I chance to read it yet?
14% increase in homeowners insurance here in the state of Florida.
I think you're exactly right.
Here's the fundamental problem the Democrats have.
They cannot possibly run on their records.
Because their record's a disaster, as we have discussed.
So they're going to run on Trump is a convicted felon, January 6th, the recycle of all that.
They want to take away a woman's right to an abortion.
In fact, they already have.
So they distort what the Roe v.
Wade decision actually did.
And the evergreen, let's not forget this one, the Republicans want to cut your Social Security.
I guarantee you that.
Those are the four planks of their platform.
Notice that they're all negative.
They cannot talk about The economy, they cannot talk about peace and prosperity.
They have nothing whatsoever positive to run on, so they have to run a completely negative campaign and a campaign of distortion.
The abortion issue is a perfect example.
The Roe v.
Wade decision...
Moves the decision regarding the regulation of abortion back to the states.
But I guarantee you, their advertising is going to tell people that those evil Republicans have ended a woman's right to choose, which might, although you and I might wish for that, that's not what has happened.
Well, okay, you name a lot of great examples there, but Trump has answers for all those issues.
And also, of course, Trump has recently announced that he's going to end federal taxation on tips for the service industry.
And it got a lot of buzz about that.
And because, you know, tips are really gifts from individuals.
But my response to that, Roger, and I agree with ending taxation on tips, but why stop there?
Why not announce a complete end of all personal income federal taxation?
Because the government doesn't need personal income taxes to fund anything when the government can just print the money out.
Although we understand that it has consequences, but the left doesn't think it has consequences.
They think you can print money into oblivion, MMT, that debt doesn't matter.
So if debt doesn't matter, why do you need our money?
Right?
You raise an excellent point.
Let me say two things.
One, having just been in Las Vegas, staying in a casino hotel, talking to the service workers in that hotel, all of whom are Democrats, all of whom belong to a union that's going to tell them to vote for Joe Biden...
I found that every server I had was enthusiastic about Trump's proposal.
It made a huge difference to them.
Some of them were getting minimum wage plus tips, and that's what they're living on.
So I think it was a masterstroke.
And then secondarily, it's funny you say that, Mike, because the other day the president mused about the fact that Maybe we could make up for the revenue that we're currently getting in income taxes through tariffs.
So he's actually floated the idea of doing away with the income tax.
So you and he may be thinking in the same direction here.
Well, yeah, there are a couple of ideas for replacing the, quote, revenue of the federal government, but the best idea, which probably Trump would not propose, is shrink federal government by 90%, and then you don't have a revenue problem, but you could replace it with a national retail sales tax.
Tariffs is another idea, but money printing is what they're doing now anyway.
I mean, fascinating economic discussion, but Roger, I want to ask you about a couple of black swan type of events, because there's still quite a bit of time between now and election day.
Some major things can happen, and let's start with Ukraine and Russia, because of course, Russia, well Putin, roughly a little over a week ago, he laid out essentially the final terms of Let's say peace or surrender by Ukraine.
Ukraine is now essentially a failed state at this point.
It's completely subsidized by the West in order to function and even pay its own salaries and pensions.
And the West immediately rejected Putin's terms, said, nope, we're not going to do that.
So it looks like things in Ukraine could unravel catastrophically over the next couple of months before the election.
If that happens, I mean, I guess two questions to you, Roger.
Do you think that that might happen?
And if it did happen, what would be the impact on the election, you think?
You know, again, we think very much alike.
A couple things.
First of all, I was very surprised to go to my email the other day and get an email from a reporter with The Spectator who told me that I was listed as one of the enemies of Ukraine.
I saw that by this by the government organization, which claims, by the way, that both the idea that there are bioweapon labs in Ukraine or that the 2014 change of government, there was a coup.
Those things they claim have both been debunked.
And I think you and I both know neither one of them have been debunked.
Right.
And look, once again, We signed an agreement, the Budapest Memorandum, back at the time that the Russians agreed to the unification of East and West Germany.
We specifically signed an agreement with the Russians not to push Ukraine into NATO. We then did a second agreement, the There's a second set of accords there that we signed.
We're in violation of both of those treaties.
This issue is not about the desire by the Russians to seize all of the control in Ukraine.
This is about the fact that Putin objects to putting NATO missiles pointed at Russia on his border.
And he's been very, very clear that NATO's membership or taking Ukraine in is his line in the sand.
Yet our Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, who, by the way, is about as good at playing the guitar as he is at Statecraft, He insists they're going to do exactly that in September.
Yes, I do think these people will go to a world war if they think it can be helpful in stopping Donald Trump's return to the White House.
And perhaps they think, to answer your second question, That Biden would be strengthened if he's seen as a wartime president.
I think they're wrong on that second point.
But they're entirely capable of starting a world war if necessary.
And I think it is a very, very real danger.
All right.
Thank you for that analysis.
I would just add that there is...
Less and less willingness among U.S. lawmakers to continue to fund Ukraine.
And Trump, in particular, said that if he's elected, he would – I think he said he would halt this war before he's even sworn in in January.
Now, he may be right about that because he is an outstanding negotiator, dealmaker.
And part of the problem of the current Biden administration is that nobody, you mentioned Blinken, nobody knows how to negotiate.
They don't even recognize negotiation or diplomacy as the wheelhouse of possibilities.
All they do is they just bludge in the world, like, do what we say or we bomb you and assassinate you and kill you and sanction you.
That actually doesn't work.
I believe Donald Trump could come in and do a deal for peace and stop the bloodshed in Ukraine, stop the war with Russia, and by the way, let me add, I think he would save Germany's economy.
By having peace and allowing Germany to do energy deals with Russia again, without which Germany is toast in terms of its industrial economic output.
And much the same is true with France and other countries.
So go ahead, your response to all that.
Just to correct myself, so we'd be in violation of both the Budapest Memorandum and the Minsk Accords, the two agreements that we assigned agreeing not to push Ukraine into NATO. Here's the strange thing.
We don't even have any ongoing peace talks.
Based on wide reporting, I think there are at least three opportunities to end this conflict and stop the killing.
And they were all vetoed, not by the Ukrainians, but by our State Department.
So they have no interest in ending this conflict.
They have no interest in stopping the horrific killing on both sides.
Trump, I agree, would use his negotiation talents to end this conflict almost immediately.
Ironically, Joe Biden blurted out a long time ago, at the beginning, before the hostilities actually began, that he would have been willing to give up certain parts of Ukraine.
And then I guess they reeled him back in.
One of the most interesting things, about Tucker Carlson's interview with Vladimir Putin, which was fascinating.
Look, he's a very wily guy.
I'm, you know, I had Relatives, members of my family, mowed down by Russian tanks in Budapest in 1956.
So being called a Russian stooge is really insulting.
Just because I think the United States should live up to the two treaties that it signed here is an outrage.
But the most interesting thing I think that Putin said was he would meet with at least two American presidents Who would agree to things, and then when they went back and talked to the Central Intelligence Agency, and he was very specific about that, they would come back to him and said, no, I can't do that after all.
Putin said, maybe I should be negotiating directly with the CIA. A little man who doesn't seem to have any power.
I think he was referring specifically to Obama and George W. Bush.
Uh-huh.
Wow, very insightful there, but we should really watch the situation closely, I believe, because I mean, number one, Zelensky, his presidential term has run out.
So he's no longer the elected representative of the nation of Ukraine.
So Russia says we won't negotiate with him.
And as I understand it, the Ukrainian parliament also, which currently constitutionally has the power to negotiate on behalf of Ukraine, I believe their terms run out in the next couple of months.
I believe in August sometime.
So it's very...
Fluid dynamic there of who can even negotiate on behalf of Ukraine?
Is any agreement even binding?
And how much just BS is Putin willing to put up with when the Western forces never keep their word and always lie anyway?
I think Putin has shown enormous restraint, in all honesty.
We have to recognize he's got his own political problems at home.
My guess is he's got a bunch of right-wing generals who say, Vlad, why are you screwing around here?
We have tactical nuclear weapons.
Why don't you use them?
Thank God he has not done so.
But I think he's hoping to find an administration with whom he could settle this matter and stop the killing.
I was thinking back to Caitlin Collins' attempt back during the New Hampshire town hall with Donald Trump saying, well, do you want the Russians to win?
I think she asked him.
He said, no, what I want is to stop the killing, which I think was the perfect answer.
At the same time, Notice they keep telling us that this fight is about preserving democracy in Ukraine.
Ukraine, where Zelensky has had all other political parties other than his outlawed, had all of his major political opponents locked up, has closed down newspapers, radio stations, television stations, has arrested journalists, and as you know, has actually banned the largest church in the country.
That doesn't sound to me But it does sound like a model for the Democrats in America, by the way.
I mean, that's the test case.
That's exactly what they want to do here.
Sadly enough, you're absolutely true.
The other thing I'd like to touch on, Mike, which I've come to a conclusion about, and I've studied pretty extensively, I now absolutely believe that a vote for Robert F. Kennedy is a vote for Joe Biden.
If you analyze the data in the swing states, And in the 60 counties that are going to be crucial, there is just no question that a disproportionate number of the votes that Kennedy gets come from people who would otherwise vote for Donald Trump.
You can test a three-way race, and then when you ask them if Kennedy was not in the race, you can see the movement back to Trump.
So while it is not true in every state, I think, and it's not true even, you can't make a blanket statement for the country, but you can make a blanket statement for the swing states.
And look, Kennedy is a pretty smart guy.
He talks about health freedom.
He talks about closing the border.
He talks about his opposition to the war in Ukraine.
He doesn't mention that he's for abortion on demand.
He doesn't mention that he once proposed that anybody who doesn't agree with his cockamamie climate change nonsense should be locked up.
He doesn't talk about his proposal for reparations for slavery.
He doesn't talk about the cost and the necessary tax increases some of his programs would take.
So I think at this point he's a wild card.
As you may have seen, tried to argue that he should have been included in the CNN debate.
He claims that he is on the ballot in enough states to theoretically win 270 electoral votes.
I think that's an overstatement.
I don't think that's true.
He's got a little better on ballot access than I thought.
But then I read these stories in Politico this week that says that his fundraising...
Is going very poorly.
Not fundraising for his PACs, where he does have some big million dollar donors because they're allowed to give, you know, without limitation.
But the fundraising for his presidential campaign, where donors are subjected to a limit, is not going well.
Now, there are two people who, under the federal election law, could fund his presidential campaign without limitation.
He is one, but he doesn't have that kind of wealth.
His running mate, Nicole Shanahan, who was, you know, up until yesterday, a defund the police Soros type leftist, is extremely wealthy.
But the irony of that is, and she could fund the campaign since she's on the ticket.
She could fund the general election campaign without limitation.
She's supposedly worth, you know, billions of dollars.
She goes on X and other social media outlets complaining about Internet censorship.
She neglects to mention that the greatest single proponent and progenitor of information manipulation and censorship is her ex-husband, who was one of the founders of Google.
Let me put it another way.
Every penny of her immense wealth came from censoring people and manipulating data on the Internet.
So she's really concerned.
About these issues, maybe she should have a word with her ex-husband.
Yeah, yeah.
Well said.
And by the way, for me, the deal breaker with RFK Jr.
is very simple.
Who would he put as nominations for the Supreme Court?
Because right now, today, so many of the victories that we have, and there are not that many legal victories, but the ones that come from the Supreme Court, such as the recent bump stock ban being overturned by the Supreme Court, that is because of the Trump nominees to such as the recent bump stock ban being overturned by the Supreme Court, And even the overturning of Roe versus Wade, which actually, as you mentioned earlier, just gives the power back to the states to let the individual states decide for themselves how to handle that.
It doesn't enact a nationwide ban on abortion.
But that decision was also because of Trump nominees.
So to me, the office of the president, you know, that duration, it's much shorter than another Supreme Court justice or multiple justices that might come in.
And from what I have seen from RFK Jr., his choices would be absolutely disastrous at the Supreme Court level for the future of our republic.
No, I think they would be hardcore leftists.
It is kind of comical to see this effort to try to discredit Justices Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito.
Yet we learned yesterday that Judge Katanji Brown took in millions of dollars that she failed to declare on her financial disclosure forms.
But once again, the left has no problem with that.
That's not an issue.
If it weren't for double standards, these people would have no standards whatsoever.
That's right.
That's right.
All right.
Let's cover the heat up of the situation in the Middle East because there have been some developments here.
And this is also another potential black swan type of event.
So I'd like your analysis on this.
First of all, we have Netanyahu putting out a video.
You know, a couple of days ago, saying that he's very unhappy with the Biden administration, saying that the Biden people refused to deliver the promised weapons and materials that Netanyahu describes as necessary to finish the war with Gaza.
At the same time, then, you have now a breakdown of negotiations between Israel and Hezbollah, where Israel is telling the Lebanese and the Hezbollah groups to leave southern Lebanon.
And Nazrallah and Hezbollah says, you can't tell us where to live.
Go pound sand.
And it looks like in the IDF announcing we are ready for war with Hezbollah.
So Israel, under Netanyahu, is about to pivot north and open up a new front in the war.
Nasrallah says if they use Cyprus air bases to attack Beirut in northern Lebanon, then we'll attack Cyprus.
And then that's going to get the attention of Iran and Russia and the US Navy and everybody else.
So there's the groundwork for that.
It sounds like a disaster in the making to me.
What are your thoughts on it?
Well, we know historically the Israelis have been responsible for a mass genocide previously in Lebanon.
They appear to me to be on the cusp of doing it yet again.
Again, none of this would be happening if the Biden administration wasn't trying to have it both ways.
Donald Trump had really starved the Iranians from any funding through the very tough sanctions.
While they have oil, they couldn't sell it anywhere.
So they didn't have the money to finance their nuclear weapons development program they didn't have the money to finance terrorism by Hamas and Hezbollah and you had a relative calm period particularly the Abraham Accords the Saudis aligning themselves with Israel Trump made substantial efforts and I think progress towards peace in the region the Biden administration is so
naive or so stupid Or so corrupt, that they somehow thought that giving a hundred plus billion dollars in frozen assets back to Ukraine, that that would not be used to fund terrorism and to fund attacks on Israel and to restart their nuclear...
You mean Iran?
Correct, yes, Iran.
I misspoke, pardon me.
So, had they never done that, I don't think we would have this horrific situation.
Biden is desperately worried about the Jewish vote in the United States, which traditionally is the most monolithic and solidly democratic constituency, I think based on the fact that Harry Truman was the Democratic president who founded essentially the state of Israel.
But he's also, I think, also concerned, and he should be, about the fact that Muslim Americans Have key constituencies in states like Michigan and Minnesota.
He can't win without those votes.
So he's very much trying to have it both ways.
And he could blunder us into another world war here.
It's complicated.
But I do think that it's just as dangerous as the situation we just went through regarding Russia and Ukraine.
And Netanyahu is not going to be restrained by Biden.
That's why Biden is trying to hold back the weapons.
Once again, this one I think is a little more difficult.
In Russia, in the Russia and Ukraine situation, you're negotiating with two peoples who would like to live.
In this case, The Iranians and these Islamic extremists, they have no problem dying as long as they get to kill Israel and the United States.
So how do you negotiate with someone when they start off with that point of view?
That's a really important point.
I'm glad you mentioned that.
And I want to bring attention to the It's a very delicate balance that Trump has to walk here because you do have Muslim Americans in many swing states, like you said, in Michigan, who are completely fed up with what they call Genocide Joe.
And even though most of those people recognize that Trump is very friendly to Israel, friendly to Netanyahu, friendly to the military-industrial complex, they're so sick and tired of Genocide Joe that They're willing to vote for Trump just to change the guard, so to speak.
Because, you know, I guess in the minds of many Muslims in America, they're like, who could be worse than Joe?
We're going to vote for Trump and then try to pressure Trump to get us to peace.
I think that's what they're thinking.
I agree with that analysis.
The other thing that's interesting here is you may recall...
Because a New York Post reporter leaked an off-the-record conversation with Robert Kennedy, where Kennedy seemed to imply that he believed that the COVID-19 virus had been engineered in such a way to be less lethal to people who had Jewish heritage.
That sent Bobby Kennedy into overdrive.
He went out, I think probably paid Rabbi Shmoley, and took the most radical pro-Israel position he could take.
The progressives, if you want to call them that, in the Democratic Party, all they did was take off their Antifa or Black Lives Matter t-shirts and put on their Palestinian t-shirts.
And he is anathema to those people.
He's taken such a hard pro-Israel stand.
So he has no entree to the most progressive elements of the Democratic Party.
Another reason why I believe the great danger he poses in this election is not to Biden, but to Trump.
It's kind of a...
A side aspect of the Middle East situation.
Great point, but then how does Trump then sort of remain open to the Muslim American vote, but also not anger the Christians, especially the evangelicals who tend to be very strongly in support of Israel?
I mean, those seem to be on really opposite ends of the spectrum, but Trump needs to appeal somehow to both of those groups.
How does he do that?
I don't have the answer to your question.
I agree with the problem that your question implies.
I'm not certain how he does that.
Again, I think his highest priority is to stop the killing.
But in this situation, I think he's going to find that more difficult because of the intransience really of both sides.
Well, I would offer, Roger, I mean, just from my view, one answer would be, Muslims buy groceries too.
And what's happened to your grocery prices, you know?
But we're seeing the kind of disruptions happening.
In the Democratic Party that we saw in 1968 over the Vietnam War.
When they had that fundraiser with Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and Joe Biden at Radio City Music Hall in New York, the protests were enormous.
And Mike, those were not conservative Republicans out in the streets.
Those were progressive Democrats chanting Genocide Joe.
They have a very serious political problem, and I actually don't think for them it is soluble.
You're right.
Trump has to walk a very delicate balance here.
It's not easy.
In the end, however, what may happen is a number of those Muslim American voters may stay home.
They may just not vote.
They would normally be habitual Democratic voters.
Trump may be too close to Israel.
They're more outraged by Biden, however, who's actually financing the Iranian war machine.
So they may stay home.
That's what actually I predict happens in swing states.
Minnesota's close.
Michigan is a swing state.
Minnesota is also single digits.
Suddenly, interestingly enough, If you're trying to add to 270 electoral votes, Trump seems to have a very real prospect to expand the map, meaning he's going to be competitive in Virginia, which he wasn't last time.
He's going to be competitive in New Jersey.
He's going to be competitive in Maine, interestingly enough.
All of those are intriguing to me, also potentially Minnesota.
Okay, excellent analysis, Roger.
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You know, Mike, I appreciate that.
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It's a nothing burger, I assure you.
Rolling Stone wouldn't tell you that.
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Fortunately, we had taken precautions in terms of protective software.
But at the same time, Alex Jones mentioned to me that he also, that same weekend, had an extraordinary number of attempts to close him down.
So I think that we're fending them off.
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Last weekend I had General Michael Flynn.
This weekend I have Congressman Burleson, who is the congressman who has put forward the motion that would essentially void The legitimacy of the January 6th committee report, which would have the effect of voiding the subpoenas on Bannon and Peter Navarro and so on, which is, I think, a very gutsy move.
Well, I fully support that effort.
I think that is exactly what needs to happen because we know the J6 committee was theater.
It was staged.
You don't have to tell me.
Yeah, I know.
You're Roger Stone.
I don't have to tell you.
Very specifically, a witness there, Cassidy Hutchison, testified under oath that President Trump instructed Mark Meadows to call me and General Flynn on the 5th to find out what was going to happen on the 6th.
Mike, there is no such phone call.
I've never talked to Mark Meadows.
In my life, I think I maybe met him once in a green room back when he was a congressman, but neither Flynn nor I had any contact.
That's so burning perjury.
The videos they showed of me were doctored.
The video they showed of their hearing was different than the video they leaked to CNN, but they had the exact same audio track about that.
No, it was a fraud upon the people.
And interestingly enough, the speaker could actually do this in a much easier way.
There is a subcommittee, a committee within the House.
I don't it's called BLAG.
That's the acronym.
I don't remember the formal name, but it is comprised of three members of the majority, two members of the minority.
It could right now decertify the legitimacy of the January 6th committee report, which would solve the problem of these subpoenas to Bannon and Navarro.
I don't think the speaker is going to do it.
So Burleson and others have teamed up to do it the hard way through legislation.
I really, I like you.
I support that effort.
I hope that it is useful.
When I was in Detroit, and you know this, Mike, I've had my problems with Steve Bannon.
I'm not going to recount the things he did in my trial that upset me.
But the Bible teaches us to forgive.
And I'm, you know, half Sicilian, so that's very tough.
But the right amount of prayer and a lot of reflection, I have forgiven Steve Bannon, and now I'm actually praying for him.
Because there are legitimate constitutional issues surrounding his subpoena.
The president's lawyers and the president himself specifically instructed him on the basis of invoking the executive privilege law.
Aspect of it that he could not testify, that's a legitimate grounds for appeal that he has been denied.
Well, yeah, and again, the point here is it's a two-tiered system of justice because Hillary Clinton can ignore all subpoenas.
She can destroy evidence, wipe servers, destroy emails.
Nothing happens to her.
But Steve Bannon, they just want to throw him in jail during the election cycle here.
Frankly, you know, Roger, they would love to throw you behind bars.
They want to put Trump behind bars.
They put Navarro and others.
They want to put Alex Jones behind bars, but they just can't find a crime that they can invent, you know?
They had Owen Schroer behind bars for a while.
This is about silencing the political enemies of the current regime in power.
That's exactly what it is.
You know this.
Our audience knows this.
Everybody observing it knows this.
And this is what happens in, you know, Banana Republics.
And here we are.
I agree entirely.
I could not agree with you more.
So if you're Merrick Garland or, say, Eric Holder, you can just ignore a congressional subpoena.
You don't have to show up.
That's right.
If you're Steve Bannon or Peter Navarro, you're going to be incarcerated for doing that.
That's it.
It really is.
It's so transparent.
It's absurd.
So Nixon's tapes are not protected by executive privilege.
And the courts and the Democrats demand that they be made public, and they are.
Yet, they don't want to release the audio of the interview between the special counsel and Joe Biden.
Oh, we put out a transcript, they said.
Well, guess what?
Nixon published a transcript, too.
That wasn't sufficient.
So the same people who were howling to make Nixon's tapes public, which ultimately brought him down, now don't want to turn over Joe Biden's tape.
Yeah, of course.
Talk about hypocrisy.
Well, Roger, your analysis, as always, is spot on.
I think what you have to contribute to this conversation about history in the making is really, really valuable.
And I hope that Team Trump watches this, hears you, hears us, and I hope that we can restore this republic.
And this election is, I believe, the most critical one in our lifetimes.
So thank you for joining us today.
Mike, thanks for having me back.
And in the meantime, I urge everybody out there, Pray for America.
Pray for our country.
When I asked Donald Trump whether he prays for himself, he said, no, I don't pray for myself.
I pray for America.
That's the Trump I know and love.
Okay.
Yeah, exactly.
We should all pray for America and pray for Trump's safety as well.
So the website, folks, is StoneZone.com.
Be sure to check that out.
Check out Roger Stone's books, articles, interviews, videos, and so much more.
Again, it's all at StoneZone.com.
And thank you, Roger, for joining us today.
It's been a pleasure.
Thanks, Mike.
Mike, thanks for having me.
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