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April 3, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Brighteon Broadcast News, April 3, 2024 – The world must STOP ISRAEL or we all die...

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	You know why people can get away with stuff like that?
	Well, these big stars go out and do these crazy things, and two years later, they're back on top again.
	The public has a short memory.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	Let me give you a test.
	How many people remember a couple of years ago when the Earth blew up?
	See, so few people remember that.
	And you would think that something like that people would remember, but no.
	You don't remember that?
	The Earth blew up and was completely destroyed?
	No.
	And we escaped to this planet on the giant space arc.
	And the government decided not to tell the stupider people because they thought that might...
	Oh, well, touch my line.
	Hey, here's a good trick.
	Alright, classic Steve Martin there from 1976, live at the Troubadour.
	I believe that was in Los Angeles.
	Steve Martin, one of the great comics of all time, right up there, you know, with, of course, Richard Pryor and George Carlin.
	Steve Martin had a very fun and unusual way to look at the world, but then...
	I guess the reason I like him is because I also have an unusual way to look at the world, and perhaps you do too.
	And that's why we get his humor.
	Not everybody gets his humor.
	They try to take it literally, you know?
	They don't really see the bigger picture.
	But Steve Martin was always...
	He was a conductor...
	Of the emotional orchestra of the audience.
	That's really what Steve Martin was good at.
	Just an amazing individual.
	He hasn't died or anything.
	I'm not playing this for that reason.
	There's actually a new Steve Martin documentary that just came out, and I got to see a little bit of it.
	And it reminded me of the old stand-up routine, so I had to play that for you.
	Now, today we've got a lot to cover here.
	It's going to be a real treat for you, even though it's relatively short, but we've got some great stuff for you.
	I'm keeping it shorter because, well, I've got to leave time to prep for the show that I'm doing a few hours from now as I'm recording this.
	I'm going to be hosting the Alex Jones Show today, Wednesday, April 3rd, 2024.
	And so, you know, that doubles as the Bright Town Broadcast News intro right there.
	But yeah, I'll be hosting the Alex Jones Show from 12 noon to 2 p.m.
	Central.
	And I've got a really special guest for the second hour of that show.
	And so if you hear this in time and you want to tune in to that, then you can check it at Infowars.com or Band.video.
	It may even be streaming on Twitter.
	So there's lots of ways to see it.
	It should be a really interesting show.
	I've got a lot to cover there.
	There are some items that I'll sort of begin to cover here right now, but I'll do it in more detail on the Alex Jones show.
	Apparently Alex is out for the week, or I'm not sure if he's traveling or...
	Or what?
	I honestly don't know.
	They never tell me.
	It's just Alex just vanishes for a week, and I get a call like, hey, you want to fill in the host?
	Sure, yeah.
	How much are you paying?
	Oh, the usual, zero.
	I don't do it for pay.
	I don't.
	That would be crazy and unnecessary.
	No, I fill in hosts for Alex Jones because I believe in the mission of what Infowars is all about.
	And it's a great crew there and I'm happy to contribute.
	Now, by the way, another person who's also happy to contribute once a week there is Gerald Salenti.
	And I got to interview Gerald Salenti today, and we had a great conversation, and I'm going to be playing that interview for you tomorrow, so you don't want to miss that.
	In fact, I've got a special report here coming up today about gold and why gold is skyrocketing.
	And I quote some of the things that Gerald told me today.
	You'll hear that interview tomorrow, but you'll hear the Gold Special Report today.
	When I was interviewing Gerald, Gold was $2,277, I think.
	And the last time I saw it, it had been only $2,253, which is still way up there.
	And now that I'm recording this, it's like $2,287.
	And I was like, oh, the skyrocketing is happening in real time, even after the markets are closed.
	So, yeah, we'll talk about that at the special report.
	You do want to know what's going on with gold.
	And all of you who bought gold...
	Or if you bought gold backs, oh my goodness, you're happy right now because the gold that you have has gone up in value.
	Well, at least in terms of dollar-denominated value.
	Then again, dollars have gone down in value, so maybe it's a wash, but that's the whole point of gold is to hold value by being worth more and more dollars as dollars are worth less and less each.
	Does that make sense?
	So that's where we are.
	And then also today, we've got a special guest for you.
	His name is Mark Jeff to Vic.
	And he's got an interesting last name.
	A couple of different ways to pronounce that.
	But Mark Jeff to Vic is known as, I believe, the Bitcoin capitalist.
	He's also the founder of Easy DNS.
	And my co-host for Decentralized TV, Todd Pitner, and I got to interview Mark last week.
	And it's funny, I keep thinking, in my mind I keep thinking it's Jeff, like Jeff Marktevic, but it's actually Mark Jefftevic.
	So don't confuse that like I did.
	It's Mark, not Jeff.
	And Mark was awesome to talk with.
	Just freaking awesome.
	Really cool guy.
	He lives in Canada, which counts double on your coolness score.
	If you're a cool guy and you live in Canada, it's worth more than being cool in America.
	Because it's harder to be cool in Canada because Canada is such a woke, progressive, oppressive country.
	It takes twice the effort to...
	To speak the truth in Canada as it does in the U.S. So Mark Jeftovic, that interview is coming up today.
	We will get to that.
	His last name also, I asked him before the show, I said, is it really pronounced Jeftovic or is it Jeftovic or Jeftovic?
	And he said, yeah, you can pronounce it any way you want.
	So we had a little bit of fun during the show playing with his name.
	But I think it's cooler to pronounce it Yeftovik.
	It's like trying to give it a Russian accent.
	It's not that it's Russian.
	It's more, is it Czechoslovakian?
	I'm not sure, but that's beside the point.
	I love to play with people's names.
	I love to play with words.
	And so I always enjoy it.
	Mark Jephtovic, he's happy to play along.
	He's not one of these people that's offended.
	You ever run into these people that are really offended when you're playing around with their name, like they can't take a joke or something?
	I mean, I grew up as Mike, and of course, all through elementary school, it was like, Mike has a bike!
	And then that was it.
	That was pretty much it.
	Mike with the bike!
	Okay, that's like a third grade level rhyme.
	That's easy.
	Anybody can do that.
	I heard that a thousand times.
	But...
	To play with names like Jevtevic, you know, that takes a little more effort.
	But some people have no sense of humor and they don't, I mean, they take offense if you play around with their names for whatever reason.
	I don't know.
	People don't have a sense of humor.
	Like the guy I knew, Chris.
	Chris P. Bacon.
	Yeah, his name was kind of easy to make fun of, too.
	Oh, also, guess who else I interviewed today?
	I interviewed an Orthodox Jew.
	Yes, I did.
	I interviewed an Orthodox Jew who was a really cool guy and we had a great conversation.
	And I think I'm going to play that interview for you on Friday, perhaps, I think is when that's going to happen.
	We had a great conversation about Israel and I got to ask him a lot of questions about being an Orthodox Jew, including how come Orthodox Jews don't have to fight in the IDF? And it seems like the Orthodox Jews consider themselves to be,
	you know, the chosen ones, and they tell all the secular Jewish people or Israeli people, like, you fight for us, you know, you pick up a rifle, you go die at the hands of Hamas, but we, the Orthodox Jews, we're going to sit here and read the Torah, you know?
	We're going to sit here and study scripture and braid our hair or whatever they do.
	We're going to make some felt hats today.
	I don't know.
	We're going to dig tunnels under New York City.
	I should have asked him about the rabbi Jewish tunnels in New York City.
	I forgot to ask him that question.
	Because you never hear about that anymore.
	It's like the tunnels just vanished.
	Like probably some children did, too.
	Okay, I'm kidding.
	I've been watching too much Steve Martin.
	Apparently, it's...
	Steve Martin just...
	That's the problem with listening to Steve Martin, is he makes you laugh about everything, even things where it's entirely inappropriate to laugh.
	You're not supposed to joke about children disappearing in New York City tunnels with Orthodox rabbi Jews emerging from those tunnels.
	That's not funny.
	It's not supposed to be funny.
	Yeah.
	Unfortunately, I neglected to ask him about that.
	But we got a lot of other great answers from our Orthodox Jew friend, who also...
	I think he's a great representation of the kind of Orthodox Jews that...
	We would all love to know and hang out with, actually.
	So, given how much criticism there is leveled against Jewish people right now, because of the actions of Israel, which is not the fault of other Jews, you know?
	It's like, hey, especially American Jews, we didn't vote for Netanyahu.
	What he's doing, that's his own crazy thing.
	That's not us.
	But a lot of Jews are getting some spillover hate, basically.
	People are watching Netanyahu.
	They're like, hey, why are you killing the food aid workers?
	We're going to get to that story.
	And the Jewish people in America are like, we're totally opposed to that.
	Why are you bashing Jews when we hate what Netanyahu is doing?
	We're actually protesting against Israel.
	Like, we're Jewish voices for peace or whatever, you know?
	So just remember this, folks, and this is why I've always made a distinction.
	My criticism of the Zionism protocols of Netanyahu, like, that's not a criticism of all Jewish people or people of Jewish faith or even all Israeli people.
	That's a criticism of the murderous psychopath that is known as Netanyahu and the people with him, you know, the president of Israel, the military leader, all these other people.
	They're murderous, crazy psychopaths.
	But a lot of Jews disagree with what Netanyahu is doing.
	In fact, worldwide, most Jews disagree.
	So let's talk about what Israel is doing.
	Because after yesterday I had a podcast and I said, you know, Israel is America's most dangerous enemy.
	and that got some people's attention.
	They're like, what do you mean?
	We thought Israel was our greatest ally.
	No, look more closely.
	They're actually getting us dragged into World War III. Well, it talked about how evil Netanyahu was yesterday and the whole Zionism insanity.
	And then, what do you know?
	Israel doubles down.
	And they initiate three missile strikes against aid workers or bomb strikes, airstrikes.
	I guess something called World Central Kitchen.
	WC Kitchen is what it's called.
	And WC Kitchen, let's see, was founded by celebrity chef Jose Andres, and it's been providing food aid for people in Gaza.
	And seven humanitarian workers with WC Kitchen were killed in three airstrikes in Gaza.
	It wasn't one airstrike.
	It was three different airstrikes.
	They were hunted by the IDF with drones and then airstrikes targeting their vehicles three different times to kill people.
	These food workers.
	I mean, Israel, this is how desperately Israel wants to cause famine in Gaza.
	This is how evil Netanyahu is.
	They hunt down and kill food aid workers to make sure that they're not delivering any food aid to anybody.
	This is crazy.
	And these workers were from the United Kingdom, from Poland, Australia, Canada, and the United States, and one of them was Palestinian as well.
	So, you know, a U.S. citizen was just taken out by Netanyahu because they were delivering food in Gaza.
	This is crazy.
	I mean, the level of evil here, it wasn't one accidental bomb that went awry.
	This was a deliberate triple strike.
	Even though Netanyahu now says it was unintentional, we didn't mean to kill those people again and again and again, because it was three different strikes.
	He says, you know, it was a tragic case of our forces unintentionally hitting innocent people.
	Yeah, right.
	Really, you unintentionally tracked them, geolocated them, found them, bombed them, all unintentional the whole time?
	No.
	Come on, it was deliberate.
	And so then you get, you know, Anthony Blinken coming out and saying, oh, it's unacceptable, but we're going to ship him a lot more bombs to make sure that it continues to be unacceptable.
	UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, he said that the war on Gaza has become, quote, increasingly intolerable.
	And he demanded a thorough and transparent independent investigation into the killing of the aid workers.
	And by the way, let's back up a few months.
	Let's back up to after right after October 7th last year.
	Do you remember when Israel bombed the hospital?
	I think it was the was at the Al-Aqsa Hospital?
	Named after the famous temple mosque, right?
	I think it was the Al-Aqsa Hospital.
	There's another one, Al-Shifa.
	But I think the first one that Israel bombed was Al-Aqsa, if I'm not mistaken.
	And I remember...
	That I reported, because I did an analysis of it, I reported, sure enough, Israel bombed that hospital courtyard and killed hundreds of people who were refugees in the courtyard.
	And information liberation also covered the story correctly, but almost everybody else in independent media said, no, that wasn't Israel.
	That was a Hamas rocket or a Hezbollah rocket that went bad and that landed in the hospital and killed everybody there.
	Almost the entire independent media was siding with Israel in October.
	My, how that has changed.
	Now, of course, people like David Icke knew from day one, as I did, that Israel was bombing the hospital.
	It was obvious from day one.
	And many other people knew it as well.
	I'm sure Max Blumenthal knew it.
	And plenty of other people.
	But to this day...
	Isn't it amazing that with Israel launching, you know, airdrops, strikes, bombs, onto food aid workers, you know, blam, blam, blam, three in a row, killing them in three different vehicles, 2.4 kilometers apart, that to this day, many so-called pro-Christian, right-wing alternative media outlets will not condemn Israel.
	They will not condemn Israel.
	No matter what Israel does, it's stunning.
	And you know who else won't condemn Israel?
	John Kirby.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, the spokesperson.
	What is his official title?
	Liar in chief?
	Assistant liar?
	I'm not sure what his title is.
	Listen to John Kirby.
	You know, he's...
	What is he?
	Is he a Navy Admiral or something?
	I don't know.
	What is he?
	At least he's not a transgender Navy Admiral.
	Kirby says, and I'm going to play this for you, Kirby says that the U.S. has never found Israel to have committed any violations of humanitarian law.
	Not once.
	I mean, this is incredible.
	Like, if John Kirby worked for Adolf Hitler, he would say the same thing about Adolf Hitler.
	Hitler's never committed any, you know, atrocities, according to our own investigation.
	Yeah, John Kirby is a malicious, evil liar.
	And he lied about Nord Stream.
	Nord Stream was blown up by the U.S. Navy.
	And he's lying about this.
	Listen to John Kirby lie and understand the reason the US has to lie and say that they've never found Israel in violation of international humanitarian law.
	You know why?
	Because if the US admits that Israel is violating international humanitarian law, then weapons exports cannot be legally allowed.
	And also, the U.S. is already in violation of nuclear weapons proliferation treaties by giving Israel nuclear weapons, and that's why they don't admit that.
	But imagine the U.S. gave Israel nukes and Israel commits genocide.
	They are a nuclear nation, illegally acquired nukes, that commits genocide.
	They bomb food aid workers on purpose.
	They bomb hospitals.
	They bomb refugee camps.
	They bomb apartment buildings on purpose.
	Netanyahu laughs and smiles about it.
	And then John Kirby gets up there and says, we've never found them to violate any humanitarian law.
	Are you kidding me?
	What kind of historically nefarious, sickening, nauseating liar is this piece of crap?
	John Kirby, listen to him yourself.
	Your question presumes, at this very early hour, that it was a deliberate strike, that they knew exactly what they were hitting, that they were hitting aid workers and did it on purpose, and there's no evidence of that.
	I would also remind you, sir, that we continue to look at incidents as they occur.
	The State Department has a process in place, and to date, as you and I are speaking, they have not found any incidents.
	Where the Israelis have violated international humanitarian law.
	And lest you think we don't take it seriously, I can assure you that we do.
	We look at this in real time.
	They have never violated international humanitarian law ever in the past five to six months.
	I'm telling you, the State Department has looked at incidents in the past and has yet to determine that any of those incidents violate international humanitarian law.
	Okay, wow.
	John Kirby, you are a piece of filth, anti-human dirtbag.
	And I'm trying not to use profanity to describe John Kirby.
	But if there is a filthy, satanic, evil, swamp creature, serpent, human serpent wearing a tie and suit, man, John Kirby fits the bill.
	What a piece of crap.
	I am embarrassed to even call John Kirby a fellow human being that you can sit there and cover up for these deliberate acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing against innocent civilians and even food aid workers from how many countries was that?
	From five countries or whatever it was?
	And you excuse that?
	And you give more weapons to this country so they can bomb more innocent people?
	You, sir, are a piece of anti-human trash.
	And you will be judged by God for your deception.
	You know, even Russia was far more honest about covering this.
	IDF deliberately targeted aid convoy, reports RT. Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu earlier described deaths of seven humanitarian workers as tragic and unintentional.
	The story explains.
	Israel fired missiles on three separate occasions at an aid convoy in Gaza on Monday, killing all involved.
	Because of a suspicion that a Hamas operative was traveling with the group, reported Haaretz.
	Yeah, so they say, well, hey, these food delivery people, there might be a Hamas person in one of these vehicles.
	Let's target all three vehicles and launch missiles at them and kill everybody involved just in case there might have been Hamas there.
	You notice this is Israel's excuse also for killing everybody and taking their land.
	They say, well, we have to attack Hamas.
	Northern Gaza.
	Why?
	Hamas might be there, so let's bomb the crap out of Northern Gaza.
	We have to bomb this university here.
	Why?
	Hamas might be in the university.
	They might be reading books in the library.
	They bombed the university, completely obliterated, right?
	Oh, then we have to bomb this hospital.
	Now it's the...
	Al-Shifa Hospital.
	Oh, why?
	Hamas is in the hospital.
	There's tunnels, man.
	So they bomb the crap out of the hospital, kill everybody.
	You have snipers to shoot doctors who are trying to escape the hospital.
	Judge Napolitano, man, he was talking about I think a relative of one of his students was a doctor in Gaza, was treating two children who were war victims, and the doctor was shot and killed by Israeli forces.
	That's how evil they are.
	They shoot and kill doctors.
	Just pure evil.
	That's what the IDF is.
	That's what Israel is under Netanyahu.
	Just absolute evil.
	And anybody going along with this, by the way, is in bed with evil.
	But my point in all of this is, looking back at the original stories in October, do you now have any doubt that Israel bombed the Al-Aqsa hospital?
	If I have the name right.
	Do you have any doubt whatsoever?
	No.
	Of course they did.
	Of course Israel bombed the hospitals.
	Of course Israel bombed the refugee camps.
	Of course Israel bombed the residential buildings.
	Of course they bombed these aid workers because they're trying to cause famine.
	Trying to cause famine.
	They bombed ambulance drivers, okay?
	How many ambulance drivers have been killed there?
	They bombed UN workers.
	Israel is an out-of-control rogue nation.
	And that's not just according to me.
	That's according to former Congressman Dennis Kucinich.
	In fact, I've got a clip to play for you here of Dennis Kucinich on with Judge Andrew Napolitano.
	And Dennis Kucinich, who I've interviewed before, is an extraordinary American.
	He's running for Congress as an independent, by the way, in the state of Ohio.
	You can learn more about him at Kucinich.com.
	That's K-U-C-I-N-I-C-H, by the way.
	Kucinich.com.
	I don't even know the origins of that name.
	What's the ethnicity of that name?
	I'm not sure.
	I think I asked him that question.
	He made a joke about it.
	But Kucinich.com is where you can find out about him.
	Listen to what he has to say about Israel after this deliberate strike on the food aid workers.
	This is extraordinary.
	We have all the elements for World War III here, and the bombing of the Iranian consulate in Damascus is clearly an act of war against Iran.
	It is a violation of international law.
	And at this point, the Netanyahu government doesn't care about international.
	As far as they're concerned, there is no international law.
	They are now a rogue government.
	And what's happening, you know, they've destroyed the El Shippa hospital.
	They've killed about 33,000 Palestinians and more, injuring countless people.
	They're driving a famine in Gaza right now, killing at least seven aid workers who were only there for the world's central kitchen to give people food.
	I mean, when you look at this, And the United States is financing this.
	Our taxpayers are paying for this.
	I do not want to see any of our sons and daughters from this country sent into a conflict that we're being dragged into by Netanyahu and his people It is time that we took a stand for American interest.
	It is not in our interest to go into World War III. If Netanyahu wants to have an expanded war, he should be told, pal, you're on your own.
	We're not going to be there with you if you're going to ignite a war with Iran.
	Because the United States is not in our interest to do that.
	And certainly Netanyahu has his own political problems where the expansion of war might be good for him politically in Israel.
	I maintain it's horrible for Israel's interests.
	Horrible.
	Israel is at risk right now because of Netanyahu's policies.
	What he's doing with the instability, plus the instability that's going on in Egypt and Jordan, you could find a convergence on Israel.
	Then what would Israel do?
	See, Netanyahu is calculating that America is going to have to do whatever he says because there's an election right now.
	And you know what?
	The false charge that Russia interfered with our election needs to be displaced by the actual interference with Israel and Israel's interest in the American election.
	And we have to realize, we have to wake up America has to wake up as to what's going on here.
	We're seeing our own freedoms undermined by things that are going on in other countries, and we're ignoring the needs of our own people.
	I've had it with this group that feels that America's freedom must be linked with the freedom of a country that is right now committing genocide and is getting away with it because of the politics of America that at this point are not in the interest of our own people.
	All right, there you go.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Congressman Dennis Kucinich nails it in so many ways.
	I mean, he says what we're all thinking.
	And I love how Kucinich is running as an independent because he's done with the two-party circus.
	It really is a two-party circus.
	So many Republicans support the Christian Zionists in America that have this horrifyingly frightening belief that the way to summon the return of Christ is to start World War III. They believe that.
	And they think they have to sacrifice these red heifer cows Which sounds like a demonic ritual to me.
	They've got to sacrifice these red heifers, and then they've got to rebuild this temple, which is going to piss off the Muslims like nothing else.
	It's going to start World War III. And then they think that they have to be attacked by the Muslim world so that God can intervene and save Israel and destroy all its enemies.
	And then it's going to make all the bad parts of the Bible come true.
	Like, this is what these Christian Zionists actually believe.
	It's an insane belief that, oh, if you start World War III, then you're going to be saved.
	Are you kidding me?
	Are you insane?
	If you start World War III, you're going to be dead!
	Not saved!
	You're going to be dead!
	You think Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons?
	Of course they do!
	You think Russia doesn't have nuclear weapons?
	China?
	Pakistan?
	Turkey can get their hands on them too?
	North Korea?
	Come on!
	You start World War III, we're all dead.
	But these freaking lunatics there who are running Israel, they want to start World War III. They want a nuclear...
	I mean, they want to drag the U.S. into a war with Iran, which will end up being a war with Russia.
	Did you know the U.S. military right now is calling up retired people?
	That according to the contract they signed with the military when they first got into it, they can call you up for four additional years or something.
	And now they're invoking that.
	Saying, oh, you thought you retired, but guess what?
	Yeah, you've been reinstated.
	And they're bringing people back into the military because, well, the regime plans to launch World War III. And Israel is going to drag us right into it.
	But there's also elements in the U.S. that want World War III also because they don't want any more elections.
	They want a big emergency, a big crisis.
	So we are living in a world right now, and Dennis Kucinich understands this very well.
	We're living in a world run by psychopathic lunatics.
	Now, some of them have an R next to their name.
	Some of them have a D. But they're insane.
	And they're leading us into some kind of a death cult outcome.
	It's like planet Earth should be on suicide watch at this point because the leaders, not just the United States, but Western Europe, the leaders of Germany, the leaders of France.
	I mean, give me a break.
	Macron, are you insane?
	Yes.
	The leaders of the UK. They're also, they have some kind of death wish.
	I mean, Netanyahu's not the only lunatic.
	He's just one of the most evil.
	But there's plenty of lunatics running Western nations into the ground as some kind of a self-immolation suicide cult.
	And unfortunately, you and I are dragged along with it because we have to suffer the consequences of their horrifically bad, destructive decisions.
	And check out this headline from CNN. Biden is set to supply Israel with $18 billion worth of F-15 fighter jets.
	So it's like...
	The very day that Israel is using American military equipment...
	I mean, let's back up.
	Israel used American-made F-35s to launch missiles that hit the Iranian consulate building in Damascus, in Syria.
	Total violation of international law.
	Some crazy escalation of war.
	That was done with American fighter jets, right?
	The F-35s.
	Now America is also, oh, we're going to sell Israel 50 more F-15s worth $18 billion, which includes a bunch of missiles and precision-guided munitions, according to CNN. And this happens on the same day that Israel uses those weapons to murder food aid workers from W.C. Kitchen.
	It's like Anthony Blinken is out there chiding Israel.
	Well, Israel, please, please stop bombing civilians.
	And here, have 50 more fighter bombers.
	You know, it's like the insanity is almost indescribable at this point.
	It's indescribable.
	And it just shows you that America has become dysfunctional.
	Completely dysfunctional.
	And yet, Dennis Kucinich understands that.
	Some people do.
	Some people get it.
	But man, America has become so dysfunctional that on one hand, begging Israel to stop killing everybody, then on the other hand, we're selling more weapons for Israel to use to kill more people.
	Because, you know, you gotta feed the military-industrial complex that Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us about.
	You know, beware the military-industrial complex.
	It will take over your country.
	You realize that America's entire business model now is causing war.
	That's pretty much the U.S. economy.
	Well, and poisoning the people with toxic, deadly vaccines.
	That's pretty much how you get healthcare GDP, is you poison everybody with vaccines and bioweapons.
	And then you get manufacturing GDP. I should have said gross domestic product.
	You get manufacturing GDP by starting wars.
	The American empire goes all over the world.
	It starts a war.
	And then, hey, guess what?
	You want more fighter jets?
	They're for sale.
	You know, here, you want some tanks?
	You want some Bradleys?
	You want some missiles?
	And then the U.S. pretends that it's giving money to aid these countries like, hey, let's sign $60 billion in aid for Ukraine.
	And where's the money go?
	Oh, it goes right into the pockets of the weapons manufacturers in the U.S. It's a total fraudulent racket.
	I mean, straight up racketeering racket.
	This is a cartel.
	It's a war cartel.
	They just have to keep the conflicts going to keep making money off the mass death and suffering of innocent people all over the world, like these food aid workers, and not to mention, you know, 400,000 plus Ukrainian young men who are either dead or injured, maimed for life as of this moment.
	Those casualties are due to people like Victoria Nuland.
	Jake Sullivan and Anthony Blinken and others in the U.S. State Department or the Biden administration that had this lunacy idea like, you know, we can beat Russia or we can give Ukraine weapons to beat Russia.
	Well, it didn't work, did it?
	Didn't work.
	But it doesn't stop the sales of all the weapons, you know, cashing in, ka-ching, on the F-35s and the F-15s and the F-16s.
	We can sell our weapons to all these countries.
	We can sell HIMARS systems, even though they keep getting blown up by Russia.
	We can sell Patriot missile batteries, even though they don't really intercept that much that's incoming, you know.
	It doesn't matter.
	The U.S. government sells weapons like Big Pharma sells prescription medications.
	It doesn't need to work.
	They create the narrative and then convince you to buy their crap that actually hurts you.
	The weapons industry, Big Pharma, vaccines, it's pretty much all the same.
	They're convincing you to spend money on things that contradict your own self-interest, either as an individual or as a nation.
	And I gotta say here, you know, yesterday I said Israel is America's most dangerous enemy.
	And I feel like I didn't go far enough.
	Today, after what Israel has done in the last 24 hours, I feel like I have to up the ante on that.
	And I've gotta say that today, the world has to stop Israel.
	The world has to stop Israel.
	I don't know how that happens.
	But it probably involves forcing them to stop, you know, in some way, as you might imagine, various ways that could happen.
	I don't know how it happens.
	I'm not calling for violence.
	I'm calling for an ending of the violence.
	But Netanyahu has got to be stopped.
	Israel's actions under Netanyahu are so outrageously illegal, that doesn't even cover it, evil, that Hideous.
	Smacks of the kind of evil of the Third Reich itself.
	How is it that Netanyahu thinks that he has permission now to carry out a whole new holocaust in his name against whoever he targets, whoever he says shouldn't be here.
	We want to murder them and take their land.
	Netanyahu has got to be stopped.
	Israel has got to be stopped.
	Who in the world, literally, will stop Israel?
	There's a question for you.
	Who will stop Israel?
	You know who has the power to stop Israel?
	The United States.
	But the current Biden regime is run by a bunch of weak, weak, jellyfish, you know, weasel-spined Democrats who...
	Who won't say anything against Israel.
	Well, I mean, they won't do anything.
	They might say a few things, like Anthony Blinken, like, please, Israel, stop babbing so many children.
	And Netanyahu's like, go pound sand, Blinken, stinking Blinken.
	That's probably the nickname that Netanyahu has for Blinken right there, speaking of playing games with people's names.
	Netanyahu.
	He's probably like, shut up, stinking Blinken.
	And Joe Biden, nobody takes him seriously, not even in his own administration.
	It's like total Alzheimer's patient clown show.
	I mean, who's really running the show in the White House right now?
	It's Barack Obama, you know, and probably Susan Rice and people like that.
	That's who's running the show.
	So how come those people don't tell Netanyahu to stop this madness?
	Because it seems to me this is a real risk to the Democrat Party, right?
	That The Democrat Party needs the Muslim vote.
	And if there's any Muslim in America voting for the Democrats, I mean, that's the equivalent, I think, of putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger or something.
	It's crazy.
	If you vote for Democrats, you're on a suicide mission.
	So you might be thinking, well, Iran is going to stop Israel.
	Not so sure about that.
	First of all, many of Iran's top leaders just got taken out by Israel in that attack on the consulate building in Damascus.
	I mean, like three or four top generals of the IRGC were killed.
	I would say that Iran is in a state of disarray right now.
	It's going to take them some time to recover from that and kind of regroup their logistics and so on.
	But an even bigger point is that Iran doesn't want to provoke Israel.
	I mean, this is my assessment.
	Iran doesn't want to give Israel an excuse to nuke an Iranian city because Iran can't take a nuke hit, you know?
	Its economy is doing pretty well, but if you start getting nuked, you know, things go downhill very quickly.
	And Netanyahu is crazy enough to start nuking his neighbors.
	And that's exactly why you shouldn't give nukes to Israel.
	I mean, Israel should not have nukes.
	It's like a deranged bully child with a flamethrower in a parking lot.
	That's Netanyahu with nukes.
	It's the craziest thing ever that Israel has nukes.
	So the real question is, how can Israel be stopped without them nuking everybody?
	And I don't know the answer to that.
	The USA has the ability to do it, but there's no political willingness to do it.
	I think, personally, I think the best strategy is very simple.
	Call up Netanyahu.
	Maybe Obama gets on the phone with him, if Obama were willing to do this, and say, hey, Netanyahu, I've got a deal for you here.
	All right?
	Actually, it's kind of a multiple-choice situation.
	Multiple choice number one.
	Keep doing what you're doing, and we're going to leave.
	And we're going to cut off all aid to Israel and You'll have no money, no military, no support from us, and no weapons.
	Okay?
	How about that?
	You just keep doing what you're doing.
	We're out of here.
	You're on your own.
	Okay?
	That's choice one.
	Behind door number two is we declare a no-fly zone over Gaza and we start shooting down IDF military aircraft because you're bombing innocent civilians.
	You're killing aid workers.
	So we're just going to shoot down your aircraft.
	That's choice number two.
	And then we'll leave after we've decimated your aircraft.
	Choice number three is we send in special forces to arrest Netanyahu and drag him before the ICC and have him charged with crimes against humanity.
	Not just him, but a bunch of other top people in his government as well.
	Just drag him out of there.
	I mean, hey, the U.S. did it to Noriega.
	Remember that?
	Accusing him of what?
	Oh, running drugs.
	Yeah, that's what that was all about.
	Wasn't that Panama?
	Back in the 80s, like, well, he's a drug runner.
	We're going to go in there and kidnap him.
	Take him.
	Also, there's the precedent.
	Netanyahu is doing far worse.
	He's slaughtering 35,000 plus civilians.
	Why don't you go in there and arrest him?
	And literally extradite him out of Israel and hold him accountable before the world court, if not U.S. court.
	How about that?
	But probably none of those things will be mentioned to Israel, because American politicians are Israel's bitches, basically, is the truth there.
	Because Israel owns them all, and they're all prostitutes for Israel.
	Netanyahu is the pimp, and United States senators and members of Congress, they lay flat on their backs and spread their legs for Netanyahu on command.
	I was very specifically articulated there with some cultural references.
	So that's the reality of what you have.
	And that's Republicans and Democrats alike.
	All right, so we'll pray that we don't end up in freaking world nuclear war here.
	And I don't know.
	Pray for God to intervene and stop all this madness, if that's possible.
	Now, we're going to go to our special report here on gold.
	It's a little under 20 minutes, and then we'll bring you the interview with Mark Jephtovic, who's also the founder of EasyDNS.
	I think you'll find that to be a fascinating interview.
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	So here's my special report on gold.
	Where I cite Gerald Salenti, and remember that the Gerald Salenti interview is coming up tomorrow.
	You don't want to miss that.
	Oh, also don't forget that Marjorie Wildcraft's food grow course, which is called, what, Wartime Homefront Essential Skills, is playing right now at Brighton University.
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	So enjoy that and enjoy this special report on gold.
	Okay, why is gold skyrocketing?
	It's now above $2,273.
	It's just skyrocketing beyond what, you know, any of the mainstream people predicted.
	But I was just interviewing Gerald Salenti.
	And we'll be running that interview shortly.
	You know, he's the creator of Trend Journal, just a legend in alternative media and, you know, financial economic analysis.
	And, of course, he predicted that gold would not only go to where it is now, but that it would go much higher.
	And he even said during the interview that it could easily be twice the price.
	He didn't give a specific time frame.
	You know, he's not a prophet.
	He doesn't have a crystal ball.
	But clearly, gold is undervalued, even at its current, quote, high price.
	In fact, historically, inflation-adjusted dollars is not even at its highest price right now, even though, nominally, it looks like the highest price.
	But it's actually been higher when dollars were worth more.
	But why is it skyrocketing?
	Well, One of the things that Gerald Salenti said is that because of the conflict in the Middle East, we're also going to see oil going much, much higher.
	Not just, you know, $90 a barrel, but he actually gave a price prediction there.
	He said it's going to go to $130 a barrel.
	And as you know, anytime oil goes up, usually gold goes along with it.
	But even if that doesn't happen with good correlation, rising oil prices means rising prices of consumer products because of the rising costs of manufacturing and especially transportation.
	So we're about to see inflation kick into another high gear beyond where it is already.
	Which is already quite bad because of all the money printing.
	Well, currency printing, technically.
	So here we are, almost $35 trillion in debt as a nation, and the only answer that our government has to every problem is, you know, print more money!
	That's it?
	Really?
	That's your answer?
	Yes.
	They just want to print more money to buy more bombs and weapons, or send more money to Ukraine, send more money to Israel.
	Never money for protecting our border, right?
	It's just money for everybody else.
	Well, at some point, you can't just keep printing more money because the other nations in the world won't keep buying dollar-denominated debt.
	And that day is fast approaching.
	So if you think gold is high right now, hold on to your hats.
	Where it's headed is, well, I mean, who knows?
	I don't want to speculate either.
	I don't know what number it's going to hit by the end of this calendar year.
	What I do know is that gold is a store of value.
	And to some extent, interestingly, crypto can be as well.
	Now, Gerald Salenti also told me that he bought some Bitcoin when it was at $17,000.
	He says he gambles in crypto.
	But he only considers it gambling because it could go crazy high or crazy low.
	It's hard to know.
	And of course, crypto, even though it has its own intrinsic properties that have values such as non-confiscatability, very good divisibility and other properties, instant transactions or near instant, It is not backed by something physical in your hands that you can actually see and touch and hold on to.
	Gold and silver qualify in that spectrum.
	You can hold gold in your hand.
	You can look at it.
	It's a physical element.
	You can hold it.
	You can touch it.
	The other thing about gold that is really important to realize is that it doesn't require a password to access it.
	I've seen issues with the world of crypto, even though I'm a strong advocate of decentralized money, and especially an advocate of privacy crypto, like Monero, for example.
	It is difficult for a lot of mostly older people to get into because just technically it's not the kind of thing that a lot of these older people have grown up with, right?
	It requires you to download and run an app on your phone and then the app has a seed phrase and you have to Write down the seed phrase, but not store it in your phone.
	And then you have to have a password that's separate from the seed phrase.
	And then when you're using crypto, you have to understand about syncing the blockchain.
	Like, why isn't my money here right now?
	Well, the blockchain has to finish syncing.
	And then somebody spends a little bit of crypto and...
	That unspent transaction has to be recalculated through the consensus mechanism of the blockchain before the change comes back.
	And during that interim period, which might be 20 minutes or something, then their wallet looks like it lost some money.
	And they're like, where'd my money go?
	Well, it's coming back from the blockchain.
	It's just going to take 20 minutes.
	They're like, why does it take 20 minutes?
	I thought this was instant.
	These technical challenges are very real.
	And I hope...
	That somehow crypto can be made more user-friendly, to appeal to a wider audience, you know?
	Because decentralized money has real promise for spreading freedom in our world and having a parallel system away from the contrived, you know, money printing, Federal Reserve, centralized bank currency system or the CBDCs that they want to push.
	I would much rather use Bitcoin than a CBDC. Or Monero, or frankly, almost any crypto than a CBDC. But it's hard for a lot of people to get into because of these technical hurdles.
	Well, gold and silver doesn't have these technical hurdles.
	It's like, I bought gold, they shipped me a box of gold, you know, I opened the box, there's the gold.
	I can touch the gold, I can put it in my vault, I can bury it, I can spend it, whatever.
	It's gold.
	It's very easy for everybody to understand, especially people on the older side.
	They're like, yeah, we know what gold and silver is.
	Because that's been around, right?
	So, I don't know exactly what's going to happen in terms of how this collapse shapes up, or breaks down maybe is a better term.
	I don't know what's going to fail first, if the banking system is going to fail, or the power grid is going to fail, or we're going to end up in World War III, or the solar eclipse is going to create a vortex portal to an alternate dimension.
	I don't know.
	And Ghostbusters will pour through with Marvel Comics characters like the Avengers and Thor.
	I don't know.
	Probably not.
	But whatever happens, I can assure you, gold will still be here.
	And so will silver.
	And probably, by the way, so will Bitcoin.
	My prediction is Bitcoin will outlast the dollar.
	I have no doubt about that 100%.
	Bitcoin will outlast the dollar.
	Gold will outlast all currencies and all cryptos.
	So gold is like, you know, the ultimate asset.
	It's the ultimate store of value.
	It has outlasted the rise and fall of civilizations.
	It will be here even when human civilization is gone, if that's what happens.
	Gold works even when the power grid is down and crypto doesn't.
	And the gold market is very liquid.
	You can always sell your gold.
	Some cryptos are kind of hard to sell.
	Not Bitcoin, by the way, and not Monero.
	Those are very liquid.
	But some of the smaller cryptos, easy to get into, hard to get out.
	Yeah, because not that many people are buying.
	Well, with gold and silver, there's always somebody willing to buy.
	Local gold dealer, or like our gold sponsor that I might as well mention, the Treasure Island Coins and Precious Metals Company.
	You can find them at metalswithmike.com.
	They are our sponsor that offers gold and silver coins and bars, by the way.
	And they will buy your gold.
	They will buy your silver.
	They will also sell you gold and silver.
	And yeah, they have a spread.
	It's a very tight, thin spread between those two on any given day.
	You can call them up and you can ask them, hey, I want to buy $100,000 worth of gold.
	Or you can say, hey, I'd like to sell you 50 gold coins.
	How much will you give me?
	They'll give you answers.
	And you'll see that their margins are very, very thin.
	It's a tough business, actually, being in the gold and silver business because they have to buy a lot of gold and silver and have the inventory on hand.
	And then they never know when people are going to panic and suddenly need to buy a lot more gold and silver, as happened about a year ago with the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank.
	And by the way, the website metalswithmike.com, just a reminder, that's how you get there.
	They are a sponsor, but I don't earn anything off gold and silver purchases through Treasure Island.
	But I asked Gerald Salenti about the commercial real estate collapse.
	I think he said that 282 banks are currently looking like they're in dire straits and they may collapse over the next 18 to 24 months because of the loan exposure in the commercial real estate market.
	So a lot of owners of commercial buildings have very high vacancy rates.
	In many cities, it's 30%.
	In some cities, it's even higher than that.
	Or certain areas, it's higher.
	That number may go to 40 or 50%.
	A lot of these building owners, they can't make ends meet unless they have more like 90% occupancy or higher.
	And so they're going to default on their loans.
	A lot of these banks are going to crater.
	And Gerald Salenti said specifically that many of these banks will not be bailed out.
	So there are going to be bank losses.
	By the way, I should give him credit.
	He extended a discount code to our audience, TrendsJournal.com.
	That's the publication that Gerald Salenti puts out every week.
	Once a week issue, trendsjournal.com.
	Subscribe there.
	Use discount code RANGER to save 10%.
	And we earn a little bit on that as an affiliate partner as well.
	Always full transparency here.
	But it's the least expensive way to stay informed.
	It's like $2.50 a week.
	And you're basically getting tomorrow's news today.
	It's almost like having a financial crystal ball.
	I mean, I don't want to say it's exactly like that, because it's not, and Gerald Salenti is not.
	He doesn't claim to have a crystal ball.
	He's just a really smart, experienced guy who has a very good track record of knowing what's coming.
	It's not 100%.
	But it's up there.
	It's very good.
	And if you gain the wisdom from Gerald Salenti and Trends Journal, you're probably going to save yourself a lot of heartache and you'll avoid a lot of losses.
	So TrendsJournal.com, subscribe using discount code Ranger, as in Health Ranger, and that'll save you 10%.
	Anyway, back to the gold-silver issue.
	A lot of people feel like, especially if they're intimidated by crypto technology, and some people are, that gold and silver is just easy, it's simple, and depending on what happens, gold and silver may actually, in many ways, gain more than crypto.
	Because what's the ceiling for gold?
	Nobody knows.
	Could it double?
	Absolutely.
	I mean, Peter Schiff has been Saying that gold could hit $5,000 an ounce.
	Well, absolutely it could.
	I don't know when.
	And there's also the question of, you know, dollars losing value.
	So I guess as dollars go to zero, eventually gold will be, you know, a million dollars an ounce because the dollars will be virtually worthless.
	So it doesn't really, you know, it doesn't really mean that much to say, ah, one day gold's going to be a million dollars an ounce.
	Even though that's technically probably true.
	All that means is that really gold is holding value and dollars are losing value, dramatically.
	That's really what that means.
	But I think Peter Schiff is right.
	I think Gerald Salenti is right.
	I think Gregory Manorino is right.
	I think that gold and silver are going to be...
	Probably the most effective store of wealth.
	It's not something that is going to pay dividends.
	It's just going to hold value for you.
	And that's all it's supposed to do as far as I'm concerned.
	I'm happy if gold and silver just hold value and don't lose money.
	Because most people are going to lose everything.
	And as Gerald Salenti says, when people lose everything, they lose it.
	Because society goes mad when people lose everything.
	And that's what's coming.
	I fear for the people who don't know what's coming.
	I mean, I've taken steps, obviously, to have continuity of business, to be able to meet payroll, to be able to continue to have inventory of food products and so on.
	I mean, we've got things in place where if the banks fail, I'm not out of business, by the way.
	And that's pretty remarkable.
	But most people will be just zeroed out.
	They will have nothing left.
	And they'll probably be suckered into the CBDCs because the government will say, oh, don't worry.
	Yeah, the bank's collapsing.
	You think you lost all your money.
	But all you got to do is sign up here and give us your thumbprint, give us your iris scan, and embed this microchip in your palm.
	And then you can have a CBDC and you get all your money back, all the money you lost, because it's just digital currency at that point, right?
	It's just digital.
	So we'll just give it all back to you.
	People will sign up to get their money back.
	But of course, being digital currency, now you're a slave because the government can control how much you're allowed to spend, what you're allowed to spend it on.
	They can monitor and surveil all your expenditures.
	They can shut off your wallet whenever they want.
	Oh, you said the wrong thing about transgenders online.
	Well, guess what?
	You're shut off.
	And the government's also going to ration kilowatt hours, by the way.
	When they get everybody turned over to EVs, you have an electric vehicle, then they'll control your mobility by limiting how many kilowatt hours you can use to charge your vehicle.
	Trust me, that's coming.
	That's why I don't want to participate in all that crap.
	So gold and silver in your hands actually gives you freedom.
	It's assets that the government can't digitally control.
	They can't monitor it.
	They don't know where your gold is.
	It's not trackable.
	It doesn't have an RFID chip on it.
	And you can sell it to any number of buyers or vendors, or you can use it in trade.
	You can trade gold coins for a business, a ranch, a vehicle.
	I don't know.
	A boat.
	A houseboat.
	Whatever you want, you can get it with gold.
	There's one more form of gold that I'm a fan of, I'll share with you here, and it's also a sponsor, and they're called Goldbacks.
	Our affiliate website is verifiedgoldbacks.com, and there you can see the lab testing that I did on Goldbacks.
	Now, Goldbacks, they embed real physical 24 karat gold into each Goldback, which is the shape of like a bill.
	They're beautiful.
	They have a rugged polymer that sandwiches the gold in between the polymer.
	And they're very divisible, so you can actually hold a one gold back in your hand, and you're holding one one-thousandth of an ounce of gold.
	It's a troy ounce, by the way.
	One one-thousandth of an ounce.
	And they have other denominations like 5, 10, 50, I believe, 25 and 50.
	I think that's what they have.
	And the 50 is pretty big and pretty thick.
	There's a lot of gold in it, actually.
	Fifty one-thousandth of an ounce of gold.
	You can feel it.
	It's heavy.
	Gold has high density, too.
	So if you want to store a form of gold that is instantly divisible and has a lot of practical sense in it, especially if you're part of a local community and your community is thinking about alternative currencies, a lot of people are switching over to goldbacks as an emergency backup off-grid currency because You can't counterfeit it locally.
	It's very difficult to counterfeit goldbacks.
	You'd have to get the gold.
	And they're very difficult to make.
	They're very intricate with their designs.
	And the printing technology is called a vacuum deposition technology.
	It's very expensive, very difficult to counterfeit goldbacks.
	I haven't even seen that anybody's ever done it.
	Whereas $100 bills are counterfeited all the time, you know?
	Some successfully and some not so much.
	They would run them off on their copy machine.
	But goldbacks have real physical gold in them and you can melt them down and you can actually get the gold out of them if you want, although that would destroy some of their value because they're recognized as having more value as goldbacks than just the gold inside them.
	But they're highly divisible.
	So you can learn about that and get some and their value goes up and down with the price of gold, by the way.
	You can get those at verifiedgoldbacks.com.
	And when I first started talking about goldbacks, they were $3.78 per goldback.
	And now I would imagine with gold skyrocketing, I don't know, they might be $4.75 or something like that.
	I'm not sure where it is right now.
	But as gold rises, goldbacks will rise as well.
	So it again functions as a store of actual physical gold, and gold is a store of value.
	So I recommend that people check out all the different forms.
	Crypto, gold coins, silver coins, and gold backs, I think they're all valid for different use cases.
	If I were advising anybody on prepping financially, I would advise them to look at all four of those, have some of each of those four in your basket.
	In terms of crypto, I would recommend Monero or Firo over Bitcoin, but Bitcoin is, you know, the granddaddy of them all, so it's probably a good idea to have some Bitcoin too.
	I would say, you know, strive to have like.1 Bitcoin.
	Just.1 Bitcoin Will be something.
	Because, you know, one bitcoin is now like $65,000.
	But if you get at point one, it's like $6,500.
	That's good to have.
	And bitcoin is very, very divisible down to like Satoshi levels, which is I think one one hundred millionth of a coin or something like that.
	I forgot how many decimal places it goes.
	But take advantage of all of this while you can.
	Dollars are not going to hold value.
	They're not.
	They're losing value.
	And gold and silver and goldbacks and crypto are all things that you may want to consider.
	Now, final disclaimer, I'm not your financial advisor.
	So do your own research, make your own decisions, do what's best for you and your particular situation, and understand there's risk in all of these things.
	There's risk in holding dollars.
	There's risk in holding Bitcoin.
	There's risk in gold and silver prices might go down.
	There's risk in all these things.
	You can't avoid risk.
	The idea is to minimize your risk and maximize the asset value that will still be left when this whole system craters.
	Dollars will become worthless.
	A lot of banks are going to fail.
	Gold will never fail because it's a physical element.
	And I believe that Bitcoin and Monero will absolutely outlast the dollar.
	But that's just my view.
	Some people may disagree.
	I think they're crazy.
	I think the dollar is history and Bitcoin is going to be here for the future.
	But, you know, not everybody agrees with that.
	So you make up your own mind and do what's right for you.
	And thank you for listening today.
	Mike Adams here, brighttown.com.
	And you can find my articles at naturalnews.com.
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	Welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV hosted here on Brighteon.com, the free speech network.
	I'm Mike Adams, and today we have a great guest from bombthrower.com.
	No, it's not about arson or violence.
	It's about crypto.
	And it's Mark Jephtovic, who's going to be joining us here in a second.
	But first, my co-host Todd Pitner joins us.
	Welcome, Todd.
	Hello, Mike.
	How are you?
	I am doing great, Todd.
	It's always fun to do an interview with you.
	We have a great time, and we have great guests, including today.
	Yes, we do.
	I'm really looking forward to interviewing the Bitcoin Capitalist.
	Oh, is that his moniker?
	Bitcoin Capitalist?
	On Twitter, yeah.
	He is the Bitcoin Capitalist.
	He's awesome.
	All right.
	Well, he's a man of many talents and skills, has a lot of experience.
	Let's just bring him right on in.
	Welcome, Mark, to the show today.
	It's great to have you on.
	Hi, guys.
	Thanks for having me.
	Absolutely.
	Well, we're honored to have you, and people can see your URL right there, bombthrower.com.
	Let's get that out of the way that it's not about bombs.
	What's bombthrower.com all about?
	You know, it's evolved over the years.
	It started as my personal blog under various different names over the years.
	I rebranded a bunch of times, always contrarian-themed, always sort of against the grain.
	Finally, I was looking for a new domain name for a band, and I came across bombthrower.com and said, this is the perfect name for the blog.
	And so we talk about Bitcoin, we talk about cryptos, we talk about CBDCs.
	And a few more, you know, cancel culture, transhumanism, that sort of thing.
	They all tend to sort of be adjacent to each other.
	I just call it, you know, rapid coverage of a world gone totally cyberpunk.
	Yeah, well, that's interesting that you bring that up, because the whole philosophy of, well, you know, cypherpunk, I would say, is now making a real comeback among mainstream people who don't consider themselves to be punks, like people like Todd and I here.
	We love the cypherpunk philosophy that money should be free and decentralized.
	Yeah, exactly, and it's...
	I always still called it cyberpunk because I remember when I came across this whole idea that computers, this is going way back to college, that computers can actually be...
	I was destined on a track where I was going to work for an insurance company doing COBOL maintenance code on mainframes.
	And then one day, you know, my life changed in an instant.
	I was on my way to class and I stopped in like the local occult bookshop just for kicks and picked up this magazine that was Mondo 2000, which was sort of wired before wired existed and before they got bought by Conda Nast when it was still cool.
	Yeah, right.
	And there were guys in there that looked like me.
	They're wearing black leather jackets.
	They had hair down to their ass.
	They were like wearing earrings and chains and they were into computers.
	and there's this thing coming called the internet and, and, Everything changed.
	And when I told one of my roommates about it, she said, yeah, that's cyberpunk.
	And I'm like, I want to be a cyberpunk.
	That's changing my trajectory right here and now.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Very cool.
	Well, Todd, I know you've been digging into some of the videos that Mark has put out there, some of his material.
	What's your first question for Mark today?
	Well, actually, mine was, you know, it's bombthrower.com, blowing up Clown World.
	Yeah, I like that.
	Yeah, you had me at Clown World.
	So my first question is, what is Clown World to you and how are you going about blowing it up, Mark?
	For me, clown world is the most ingenious coping mechanism for this world we live in of perverse incentives, complete backwardations of everything, like morals are backwards, left versus right is inverted, conservative versus liberal is like what they used to stand for seems to be completely inverted now.
	It's upside down.
	Sorry?
	Oh, I disagree.
	Nonviolent agreement.
	And then so what happens is, and I succumbed to this for a while, you can become overwhelmed with negativity in a world like this, where the zeitgeist is just completely saturated with this, like, insanity.
	So instead of Turning to the negativity and being overwhelmed and bummed out by this, I think clown world was such a compelling coping mechanism to say, look, it's not depressing, it's comical, right?
	And as long as you understand that it's comical, you can just have fun with it.
	And that's the other thing I like about Bitcoin, not to sort of pivot there so fast, but what I like about Bitcoin is I call It permeates the entire zeitgeist.
	Everything is stupid.
	Everything is crazy.
	The incentives are completely backwards.
	How do you short that?
	You buy Bitcoin.
	That's it.
	You're done.
	Let's talk about...
	Oh, I'm sorry, Todd.
	Just one follow-up on Clown World, because I was thinking about this.
	You are the Bitcoin capitalist on Twitter.
	Everybody should go give you a follow.
	And I submit Elon Musk made the...
	Idiotic decision to rebrand Twitter as the letter X. So now everyone is forced to reference this social media platform as, for example, I'm the Bitcoin capitalist on Twitter, I mean X. So I guess the platform was actually rebranded Twitter, I mean X. Is this an example of clown world, Mark?
	It's one of them.
	I mean, actually, Elon gives much better exhibitions of clown worlds, like going back to when he first piled into Bitcoin.
	And then a few weeks later, he was like, oh, wait a minute.
	Bitcoin uses energy?
	Oh, now I'm off of Bitcoin.
	And then he pivoted to Doge, right?
	And then it's like he's back to Bitcoin, and it's just you can't take the guy seriously.
	I never call Twitter X, by the way.
	I just don't.
	I don't call Facebook Meta.
	Thank you.
	I call Twitter X. It's just...
	How did you end up the Bitcoin capitalist?
	Last question there, Mike.
	I won't be too drawn out about it.
	I started as the crypto capitalist because I didn't, you know, I hadn't This last bear cycle sort of separated Bitcoin from crypto in a lot of ways.
	FTX, Sam Bankman-Fried, fraud, whatever.
	But I loved the play on words of the crypto capitalist because we live in a world where it's sort of unfashionable to be a capitalist, right?
	You used to hear a slag would be like, oh, he's a crypto fascist.
	He's a crypto whatever.
	And I thought crypto capitalist is great because you almost have to be secretive about it.
	And then crypto took its own sort of bad connotations over the last cycle.
	So I rebranded as the Bitcoin capitalist because no matter what, I like some of the other projects, but I regard them as projects and maybe like startups.
	But Bitcoin is the base layer of this new decentralized economy we're going into.
	It's the cornerstone.
	It's a category of one.
	That's why I just said, you know what, I'm just going to rebrand as the Bitcoin capitalist. - Yeah, I think that's inarguable Bitcoin changed the world.
	It is the base layer, as you said.
	It's not the only coin that's useful.
	However, let me just mention great news.
	Last night, I was talking to...
	Well, we're building a large language model, an AI project, and I have a quality control person in Australia that's just doing some consulting work to help with quality control.
	And...
	She had invoiced us for just a small amount.
	It's like, this is too small to send a wire and deal with the banking system and then I have to talk to accounting and blah, blah, blah.
	I'm like, by chance, do you accept Monero?
	And she's like, oh yeah, here's my receive address.
	I'm like, Done!
	Got her paid instantly.
	Otherwise, you know, it would have taken forever.
	And of course, we could have done the same with Bitcoin as well.
	But here's the utility of crypto.
	And the reason I mention Monero is because, of course, we're pro-privacy here.
	I don't like everybody snooping into my blockchains, but...
	Crypto is useful in a way that fiat is not.
	And that doesn't even cover the other things.
	But I'd like to know, Mark, about your thoughts on what I just described.
	Here's a real world case.
	It's not just buy and hold and it's going to go higher.
	It's like, hey, we're using this to engage in commerce and it works and it's faster and it has greater utility.
	What are your thoughts?
	Oh, absolutely.
	I mean, I built almost my entire stack of Bitcoin by just taking it as a payment method at my main business.
	We talked a bit before we started rolling.
	I run a web services domain company called EasyDNS, We were the first domain registrar to accept Bitcoin back in 2013.
	Is that right?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	You know, we just stacked it.
	And so every time, like when Paul Krugman says there's no use case for Bitcoin or Nassim Taleb says, oh, you can't use it in everyday commerce.
	I'm like, well, tell me that because we've been doing that since 2013.
	It's never slowed down.
	It's never, you know, it's been steady the entire time, just increasing in transaction velocity ever since.
	To your point, I mean, I've got a kid I just hired for one of my projects.
	He's a programmer in Nigeria.
	And when we're doing the first meetup phase on Zoom, I'm like, you know, I have a hard time paying people overseas sometimes.
	And I'm like, how do you want to get paid?
	Do you take crypto?
	And his eyes just lit up.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He sent me his first invoice, and he said, can you pay me in stablecoin, either Tether or Circle?
	And he sent me an invoice.
	He said, yeah, it's on Polygon.
	I mean, this is how...
	And he just talks about it as if it was PayPal.
	And we see this...
	Countries outside of North America, people are surprised to see that if you look at the top 10 countries of Bitcoin and crypto adaptation, Canada's not even in the top 10, and I'm Canadian.
	U.S. is, I think.
	I can't remember what place.
	But the top countries are like Vietnam, Nigeria, countries like Turkey.
	That's where the population really gets it because, for one, they're in this slow-motion hyperinflation for 20 years in the case of Turkey or Argentina.
	That's right.
	And people just have already started to make it part of their everyday lives.
	So it's nothing exotic.
	They kind of look at us North Americans saying, oh, it's weird.
	It has no use case.
	How do you even use this stuff?
	And they kind of think we're behind the curve, I think.
	Well, I've said to my own audience, I've said, if you think Bitcoin is high now, wait until the dollar starts having accelerated hyperinflation and people are looking for a safe haven.
	And, you know, look, I don't make price predictions of where crypto could go.
	I don't encourage price speculation.
	But the intrinsic value, one of the things I want to talk with you about, and Todd, I wanted you to chime in as well, is that, you know, currencies rise and fall.
	And they have throughout civilization, every fiat currency has either already failed or is on a track to failure because no government can escape the seduction of printing free money.
	No government can escape that.
	They all do it, and they will all do it to oblivion.
	Bitcoin, you can't do that.
	Bitcoin is non-counterfeitable, if that's the right term.
	And also, it's mostly non-confiscatable if you have good practices with your wallets and so on.
	But I'm thinking, maybe for the first time in history, Mark, that as the current currencies fail, like the euro is going to fail, the yen is going to fail, the dollar is going to fail.
	For the first time, we have a viable alternative.
	Instead of just, oh, let's just have another new government currency that's going to go broke in another couple generations.
	Isn't that an amazing pivot point for history?
	It's absolutely amazing.
	When you look at monetary history, fiat currency is kind of the aberration, not the norm.
	For a minute, let's talk gold.
	Right.
	So gold.
	When it became sort of like the de facto monetary backing for currencies worldwide, that wasn't done by a bunch of government experts and convening a panel of bureaucrats to say, let's decide on gold as the backing for the currency that kind of happened by let's decide on gold as the backing for the currency that kind It just sort of selected itself by market participants.
	And the best book.
	That describes that process is a book called Gold Wars by Ferdinand Lips.
	He passed away many years ago, but it's a classic and a lot of Bitcoiners have read it.
	So let's fast forward a bit.
	There was this period in the early aughts where people tried to digitize gold.
	With eGold and eBullion and Pecunix and things like that.
	And I was involved in that in the early days because I thought it showed potential.
	It didn't.
	It was too centralized.
	It failed.
	So you fast forward to today.
	Now you've got this Bitcoin, digital gold, truly decentralized.
	And at the same time, we have all of the fiat currencies in the world devaluing themselves.
	What happens during every hyperinflation?
	So there is a big turning point in my mind in the way I looked at Bitcoin.
	I knew it was going to be important.
	I knew it was going to change the world from the moment I looked at it, just like when I saw the Internet for the first time.
	Every hyperinflation has what's called a Notgeld.
	It's a German phrase.
	It came into being during the Weimar hyperinflation and it loosely translates into emergency money.
	So every hyperinflation has an emergency money.
	In Weimar, Germany, individual towns started printing their own script.
	In the Zimbabwe hyperinflation, it was prepaid phone cards and gas cards from adjacent countries.
	And I thought Bitcoin was going to be this global Notgeld worldwide as each of these fiat currencies are devaluing themselves into nothingness that Bitcoin was this global emergency money that people were going to run to.
	And that is the case and that's happening.
	But I originally, up until two years ago, thought that's as far as Bitcoin was ever going to go.
	I thought, There's never going to be a Bitcoin standard.
	It's not going to be like hyper Bitcoinization is not going to happen.
	It's certainly not going to be a world reserve currency.
	Like I thought none of that is on the table.
	And all that changed in 2022 when, you know, here in Canada, the government declared martial law and started seizing bank accounts.
	Yep.
	That was a Justin Trudeau has become a Bitcoin proponent because of that.
	Yep.
	And the same year, the United States froze the foreign treasury holdings of two other sovereign countries.
	It doesn't matter that those countries are run by thugs.
	The point is it forever changed, you know, the first event changed the calculus of the individual, how they think about possession of their own wealth.
	And the second event changed the calculus of sovereign nations, how they think about how they hold their foreign exchange assets.
	That's right.
	So that to me, like sort of flicked the switch in my head.
	And I thought hyper Bitcoinization is now inevitable.
	This is baked in now because you need a money of enemies, so to speak.
	You need a counterparty-free bearer asset that nobody can confiscate from each other because enemies still have to trade with each other.
	In this day and age, in this interconnected world, we still, you know, Europe is still buying gas from Russia.
	Right.
	And, you know, all of this is still happening.
	And countries can't trust each other with sizable foreign assets.
	So, Mark, I love what you said.
	I'm going to turn over to Todd here in a second.
	Thanks.
	Thanks for your patience, Todd.
	But I love what you just said.
	You said it's a counter party free bearer asset.
	That is absolutely critical.
	If people really understand what you just said, every other form of money, including dollars, has the counter party risk or bank risk, treasury risk, currency devaluation risk.
	But also it's a bearer asset.
	You hold it.
	I mean, you better hold it.
	You better not leave it on exchange.
	You hold it.
	You control it.
	You present it.
	Boom.
	You're in control.
	And it's not somebody else's liability.
	Like, your deposits in the bank are a bank liability.
	That's right.
	All right, Todd.
	You're up.
	All right.
	I love this discussion, though.
	I do, too.
	You're not going to be able to shut me up.
	Okay, well.
	Well, you might say the same about me with this question, because I need to set the table a little bit.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Did a little research.
	So forgive me in advance, Mark.
	In October of 2021, you wrote an article called, If the Beast is CCP-style social credit, Then the answer is Bitcoin.
	And in this article, you asserted that Bitcoin is resistance to financial tyranny, which is great.
	Enter the company Chainalysis, which generates close to $25 million a year in revenues by offering blockchain analysis services to various clients.
	Wait, only $25 million?
	It may be more than that.
	Oh, okay.
	Maybe I have it way under.
	But it's a ton of money.
	Okay.
	Quick research said $25 million.
	But, you know, their clients include law enforcement agencies, government institutions, such as the IRS, financial institutions, and cryptocurrency exchanges.
	So Bitcoin is a public ledger, and transactions are transparent to chain analysis.
	As a matter of fact, the lion's share of their revenues come from analyzing Bitcoin.
	So, you know, they make their living analyzing Bitcoin.
	And selling the information to third parties, such as China.
	So since we can't move value privately with Bitcoin, how is it the answer to CCP-style social credit, Mark?
	work.
	Yeah, I mean, to me, I call...
	I'll set the table a little bit as well, okay?
	Okay, sure.
	We talked about how fiat currencies are all sort of devaluing themselves to zero, and that's sort of...
	Inevitable whenever they've been tried throughout history.
	Where I think this is headed is that CBDCs are going to be seen by governments and central banks as the Hail Mary play to sort of extend the runway on these fiat currencies for a few more decades.
	So there's this natural impetus towards CBDCs that make them somewhat inevitable.
	Practically every central bank is working on them.
	The BIS did a survey, and I think they came up with 120 out of 140 central banks in the world already have projects on the go, if only research stage at this point.
	And it's not conspiracy.
	Like, I'm actually working on a book on CBDCs right now, should be out this year, and I kind of write in it, like, everything that's going to happen under CBDCs, this isn't conspiracy.
	Like, this isn't This comes right out of central bank white papers and Bank of International Settlement papers and all of this stuff.
	They just say it in plain English what's going to happen, expiry dates on cash and programmability and negative interest rates, at least the capabilities for us.
	You don't need a shadowy cabal of people who rule the world to declare that CBDCs are coming in order for them to be inevitable because the dynamics of what's happening to fiat currencies make them inevitable.
	They have to do something and governments aren't going to just lie down and say, okay, we need to go to a gold standard or a Bitcoin standard.
	It's just simply that will happen when they are forced to do it.
	Right.
	So in the meantime, we have these CBDCs, all right?
	And that's going to come in.
	And what I always say about them is they're either going to launch as or morph into, like just inexorably over time, social credit programs.
	And there's a whole, and we can probably talk about that, and we probably will, about, you know, net zero and degrowth and all of that stuff and how CBDCs are going to be the perfect way to sort of manage that.
	But now we get to Bitcoin, right?
	What's the antidote to this?
	CBDCs will not even be money in even the loosest definition of the word because we talked about how Bitcoin has no counterparty in CBDCs.
	It's not even a thing.
	It's not even a currency.
	It's more like a score, right?
	It's more like just a number that'll be on your phone that goes down every time you do anything.
	It's like treasury credits.
	You have digital treasury credits.
	Yeah, and you're not going to be able to have custody over your private keys.
	There won't even be private keys.
	So you won't have self-custody.
	You won't have capital mobility.
	You won't have the ability to spend it on whatever you want whenever you want.
	Where as Bitcoin and Monero and pretty well a lot of the other cryptos have all of that baked in, nothing to the extent that Bitcoin does.
	And can I interject, Mark?
	I apologize.
	But absolutely the way the West has used economic sanctions through the SWIFT system internationally, they will do the same thing at a micro level with CBDCs domestically.
	You can be individually sanctioned.
	You will not be able to buy anything from a sporting goods store because you might buy nine millimeter rounds.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Individual sanctions are coming.
	Yeah.
	Individual carbon footprints, individual carbon quotas, individual, you know, nudge units that that are just sort of like nudging.
	Oh, we want you to eat less meat, so we're going to just sort of like nudge you in this direction.
	And the way to avoid all that The way you get captured by all that, the way you get ensnared by it is to be economically dependent on the state.
	If you have no independent means of wealth or income, if you work for somebody else and that's all you do, or you're on a government entitlement program, especially the latter, if you're on any kind of government entitlement program and you need that to make ends meet, You're out of luck when all this comes in.
	You'll be controlled or cut off.
	Exactly.
	And what I tell people is, without trying to sound too glib about it, is don't be dependent on the state.
	If you have a job, start a business on the side.
	Even if it's a kitchen table business or you learn affiliate marketing or something, just start something on the side that you have at least a pathway that you can ramp it.
	If you're already a business owner, like, invest or buy or start another business and just, you know, get as many multiple streams of income coming in, have asset diversity.
	I mean, I'm getting a second passport for my daughter and I. And, you know, it's you have to, like, really think about plan B's.
	And what I always say the precious commodity is in this era we're going into is optionality.
	And so the people in Bitcoin gives you options.
	It gives you a pathway to options and optionality.
	And the people who will have their lives completely gamified in their phones and controlled by it will be those who have no options.
	That's how I call it.
	Monetary apartheid is where we're headed.
	But to Todd's point, the surveillance capabilities over the Bitcoin blockchain, that does provide government opportunities to surveil people's blockchain activity if they're not careful about how they use it, right?
	Yeah, I didn't speak to that one.
	Sorry.
	As we all know, it's a double-edged sword, Bitcoin, completely transparent network, and that's not a bad thing, I think, net-net.
	I'll come back to the main point, but when hysterical shrews like Liz Warren come out with their anti-crypto army saying crypto is being used by money launderers and Hamas and things like that, Chainalysis was actually one of the voices that said, you know what, when you look at the blockchain, that's really not the case.
	When you look at the blockchain, the actual usage of the US dollar is still 97% of all illicit activity, very low level on Bitcoin.
	So in that sense, it actually...
	Keeps everyone honest.
	I mean, I'm not in Bitcoin so that I can break moral laws with impunity to steal or whatever.
	I'm in Bitcoin because I want self-sovereignty.
	So what I tell a lot of people about it is like, yeah...
	Everything's on the blockchain.
	Everything is transparent.
	You can trace things through.
	But there's nothing anybody can do about it.
	So the government may know that I said...
	Yeah, but they can.
	They can.
	I mean, the truckers out there who were donating, they had consequences.
	And I'll tell you...
	Let's talk about...
	Finish your point.
	We'll get back to it.
	I'll just say the thing that drives me a bit mad about Bitcoin...
	It's not Bitcoin.
	I think Bitcoin is beautiful.
	I mean, it's a limited supply of 21 million.
	It's decentralized.
	It has clear monetary policy.
	It's open.
	It's permissionless.
	It's unconfiscatable.
	It's fungible.
	Everything that we love.
	That, by the way, CBDCs are the exact opposite, everybody who's watching and paying attention.
	You need to think about unlimited supply, centralized supply.
	Opaque monetary policy.
	It's closed and permissioned.
	There's always risk of seizure, and it's privacy invasive.
	But what happens is I find that Bitcoin, there's a certain segment of what I will call the maximalist, that if it's not Bitcoin, it's a shitcoin.
	And they literally just wield all kinds of ad-hom attacks at anything that is not a Bitcoin.
	And I know back in that 2021 article, Mark, you also wrote, honest money enables the exchange of value.
	And without honest money, we are left with force and coercion.
	And I agree with that 100%.
	But to have honest money absent force and coercion, don't we also have to be able to exchange value privately, Mark?
	Let me add, before you answer that, Mark, I think you'll find this valuable, Todd.
	What concerns me, and I think Todd as well, is how governments can pressure the centralized exchanges.
	And that's what happened in Canada.
	So they blocked certain Bitcoin wallet addresses in Canada.
	Now, of course, you can go outside of Canada.
	You can use VPNs.
	There's all kinds of ways to get around that.
	But because these centralized exchanges, they're now getting all kinds of pressure to drop Monero, for example, like Binance just did.
	The exchanges, it goes against the whole cyberpunk attitude of decentralization, and the exchanges can be leaned on by nefarious governments.
	And because of that, because most Bitcoin people, well, I don't know if it's most, but a lot, they don't take self-ownership.
	They leave it on the exchange, and they rely on the exchanges, and those exchanges can be heavily censored and controlled by governments.
	But I want to interject that before you respond, Mark.
	Don't let me forget that, okay?
	Okay.
	We're going to have a stack.
	Yeah.
	I want to circle back to the Freedom Convoy, okay?
	Yeah.
	And maybe you should get Ben Dichter on the show sometime because he was, of course, neck deep in it.
	He was one of the leaders of it, and he was intimately involved in the Bitcoin aspect of it.
	So in the Freedom Convoy...
	The government seized bank accounts, and the government seized the GoFundMes and the GiveSendGo's, and then they also doxed everyone who donated via GiveSendGo because they obtained the spreadsheet through a hacker, and then they doxed everyone with it.
	The Bitcoin, of all the funds raised, only the Bitcoin got through to the truckers.
	That was it.
	None of the other money got through.
	Again, Ben can tell you a lot more about what happened with the rest of the money.
	It's a story not a lot of people have heard.
	Yeah, the government came out and they froze a bunch of addresses.
	But what did that mean?
	None of that Bitcoin was seized.
	None of those addresses were seized because they can't seize it.
	And all you have...
	And nobody needs a centralized...
	None of the Bitcoin was inside a centralized exchange.
	And nobody needs any centralized exchange to move Bitcoin around the network.
	So...
	That was really kind of more performative than anything else.
	And, you know, with the complicity of the Canadian media, which are, like, it's more agit-prop than anything else, they sort of bombarded the public with this message of, like, oh, the government froze these Bitcoin wallets.
	Nothing like that happened.
	But didn't they identify the woman that sent it and they froze her actual bank account?
	So she was considered a terrorist?
	And that's...
	I don't know about a specific case of someone sending Bitcoin and having their...
	$50.
	$50 of Bitcoin.
	Yeah, $50 of Bitcoin.
	You're saying they tracked her identity from the Bitcoin wallet back to the exchange where she did KYC, and then they froze her fiat bank accounts?
	Yes.
	Is that what you're saying, Todd?
	Yeah.
	I had not heard that before.
	I considered her a terrorist.
	Yeah, I haven't heard that one.
	I've heard of people who sent $50 through the banking system or GiveSendGo who had their bank accounts seized.
	I sent a lot more than $50 from my own name in Bitcoin, and I never heard anything about it, and my bank accounts are fine.
	Yeah.
	So I don't know about that case.
	I'm not disputing it.
	I'm just saying I don't know about that one.
	And Mark, don't get me wrong.
	I'm not hammering Bitcoin.
	My message is I believe that we...
	It is our human right.
	The name of this show is Decentralized TV. We're building the infrastructure of human freedom.
	I believe we should be able to exchange value privately.
	So, when I hear the BT maximalists say, if it's not Bitcoin, it's a shitcoin, well, you can't move Bitcoin privately.
	So, that kind of goes against this very deep...
	Feeling I have a freedom.
	And so my message is Monero, Thero, Epic Cash and other privacy coins, they enable us to actually move value privately.
	And isn't it time that we give privacy coins a day in the sun if we're serious about fighting against the quote-unquote beast?
	I self-describe myself as a maximalist a lot of the time.
	However, I guess it's not a good label because I agree with you that there are points to a lot of other projects.
	And actually, I have Monero myself, right?
	Like, I hold Monero.
	There's some other projects like Zero Knowledge Networks that runs on Ethereum, which is a privacy project.
	There's actually a few of them.
	There's a zero X zero and like they're just exploding because it's a market need right now and they're becoming larger and larger market caps, these projects.
	And so whether Bitcoin maxi say, you know, everything else that exists is a shit coin or not is kind of irrelevant because, you know, again, there is this need there.
	There is this desire for market participants at least some of the time to exchange value privately and completely anonymously.
	So that's never going to stop.
	The exchanges, right?
	So maybe the exchanges are going to stop now.
	I just thought of another thing I wanted to say before I got to this, but one at a time, I suppose.
	I tell my readers a lot of times that...
	Going forward, we expect the exchanges to become kind of, I call them checkpoint Charlie, right?
	Exchanges, the centralized exchanges are where taxation and control are the ingress and egress points into and out of fiat world to the crypto world is going to happen in the centralized exchanges.
	That's just going to be a reality.
	That's just the way it is.
	And you adjust accordingly.
	One, I think my theory for years, which I believe is being borne out, is that much of the crypto going exiting fiat world and going into crypto world is on a one way street.
	OK, I agree with you.
	I agree with you.
	It's never coming back out.
	So you have to get through Checkpoint, Charlie, and for God's sakes, don't leave it on the exchange, right?
	And you move through, you move past that point, and you're home free, right?
	Well, Mark, I'm a perfect example of that.
	I have only bought crypto with fiat, and I've swapped crypto for crypto, and I've used crypto, and I've received ascent crypto.
	I've never sold crypto for fiat, not once, and I never will.
	I mean, my hope is to use it in the new economic system of the crypto world.
	I'm holding crypto as a store of value for future products and services that I can acquire with crypto.
	I'm never going back into the dollar with those assets.
	And so the exchanges only matter to me one time, which is exactly what you're saying.
	It's just one time, okay, I went through KYC. Yes, the government knows that I spent X number of dollars into some kind of crypto.
	And then from that point on, they have no freaking clue what happened.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	I just said Mike had a boat wreck.
	Yeah, the boat.
	Lost my passphrase or seed phrase.
	Boat accident.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And then the other way is you earn crypto, right?
	You earn it in your services.
	You build up multiple streams of crypto income.
	If you own a business, you accept it as a payment method.
	Now, EasyDNS has been accepting it as a payment method since 2013.
	We don't Use it as a tax evasion device.
	I mean, it's like right there on our balance sheet.
	We like, you know, our accountants know about it.
	And it's like, here it is.
	Here's the value that was, you know, and we they account for it.
	It's track the capital gains and all that stuff.
	We don't convert it into fiat.
	We did once.
	And we paid our taxes on it at the time.
	So, you know, we just do it all above board the few times you're going to convert the other way.
	But for the most part, you just earn it and stack it.
	Yeah, exactly right.
	But I would think that over time, because the centralized exchanges have been under, of course, increasing pressure by governments, as governments are increasingly waging war against crypto to try to suppress the competition of what they're coming out with, which is the CBDCs.
	So the business model of the Binances of the world seems ultimately really either they're going to have to become puppets of the governments or they're going to go out of business.
	And I would argue that, for example, big tech has become exactly this.
	Google, YouTube, they are puppets of the government.
	The Biden administration tells them who to censor, who to silence, shut these people up, don't let them talk about vaccines or masks or whatever.
	And they comply because they're puppets of the government.
	And if that's the case, then, you know, who knows what new requirements governments might, you know, way beyond KYC, like limits of how much you can send and receive or.
	That already exists.
	Well, that's true.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Pretty strongly still to this day in the sovereign individual thesis where there will become a more competitive marketplace among sovereigns or perhaps even micro-sovereigns that sort of see the light and say, okay, you know what?
	Running a system this oppressively is self-defeating and ultimately forces the most productive people outside of our jurisdiction.
	And those productive people get attracted to jurisdictions where that is less the case.
	To your point, I've been asking how soon can I buy BRICS crypto from the BRICS nations?
	Because they're saying they're going to roll out a blockchain-based international settlement system.
	But they're probably not going to be libertarian paradises either.
	I'm thinking more places like El Salvador's or Argentina's or wherever.
	But getting back to the centralized exchanges like in the U.S. or Canada, I think Coinbase will eventually be the only legal crypto exchange in America.
	Um, they have this, um, they do a respectable job fighting with the SEC on trying to, you know, keep the regulations rational, uh, and they're big enough to do it.
	They have enough firepower to do it, but eventually they're going to be kind of like a utility.
	Right.
	And, um, I own shares in Coinbase and I tell, you know, it's almost sort of like, uh, this is part of this part of the plumbing.
	crypto's not going away, Coinbase is going to be part of the plumbing.
	You might as well own a piece of it.
	But I would argue that Coinbase, I mean, I agree with your assessment, but Coinbase ultimately just functions as a surveillance front for the tax authorities, right?
	So Coinbase reports everything to the government.
	Otherwise, they would not be allowed to exist in the same way that Google does or Facebook or YouTube.
	So it's just a surveillance net.
	By the way, even Elon Musk on Twitter, part of his business model is selling every data, everything that you tweet, selling it to companies that market to the NSA and the CIA and who knows who, right?
	So these corporations are only allowed to exist because they spy on their users.
	Yeah.
	And those corporations exist on, like I said, the border between the fiat and the crypto systems.
	And in a world that's becoming far more decentralized, we're going to see more of these decentralized, like DEXs, decentralized exchanges.
	And you probably see less fiat rails in those decentralized worlds.
	And that's why I tell people, it's like, There's a bit of a window of opportunity here that you still have convertibility from fiat to crypto.
	I don't know how porous that membrane is going to be in the future.
	I call it the great bifurcation that someday...
	There may come a time, I don't know, when everything you have in crypto is all you're ever going to have in crypto and everything else is in fiat forever.
	Yeah, true.
	I think that's right.
	That could happen, the great chasm.
	But I like how you said that anybody out there can just advertise that they're accepting crypto for their own goods and services and they can...
	Slowly gain a trickle of crypto.
	You know, we interviewed some people early on in the show here, Todd.
	Remember how difficult it was to get Bitcoin or Monero without going through KYC? Oh, yeah.
	Remember that?
	Like, mail people cash.
	And then when they get the cash, they'll deposit the Bitcoin.
	And I'm like, really?
	I'm not sure I want to mail cash.
	I know.
	But go ahead, Todd.
	I think that the cypherpunks of today are the ones who are focused on mastering the art of decentralized exchanges.
	And I'm not there yet, but I am determined to get there.
	And because, you know...
	I just think that it's going to be impossible at some point in time to be able to onboard fiat to get into crypto.
	And if you're already into crypto, good luck being able to...
	Keep it private.
	But these decentralized exchanges, I believe that there's hope.
	And these swap services, and, you know, Mike, we interviewed Dr.
	Kapp with Basic Swap Dex, and that's pretty exciting.
	But what do you think about centralized versus decentralized exchanges, Mark?
	Well, yeah, I think actually...
	Never mind exchanges.
	Centralized versus decentralized is the defining tension of the age that we're heading into.
	It's everything.
	I think this transcends left versus right politics.
	It's either you want the government to tell everyone what to do, you want more centralization, or you want to be left alone to do your own thing.
	That's decentralization.
	That's sort of like the polls or the spectrum today.
	There was one thing I remembered what that one point was earlier on that I wanted to mention is that these anonymity tools and these privacy protocols, they're also happening on Bitcoin as well.
	I mean, there's Monero and there's, like I said, some of those other projects that I mentioned, but there's coin joins on Bitcoin.
	There's things like Fediment and Taproot that are enabling tokenization and swapping and things like that.
	And everyone is starting to build things that you normally used to see on Ethereum or other protocols.
	And they're starting to say, how do we build this onto Bitcoin?
	Because it is a category of one.
	So I have like every reason to believe that these kinds of tools and protocols are going to continue to develop and be refined and become more sophisticated on Bitcoin as well and everywhere else.
	That's great news.
	I've taken a deep dive into that as well.
	I've used Sparrow and Whirlpool and CoinJoin and tried all these different things as well.
	It kind of leads me to my bigger question, which is how do we make How does the community of Bitcoin or Monero, how does it make it easier for non-techie people?
	And I actually have the same question about CBDCs.
	Every time I hear government officials talking about, oh, we're going to roll out CBDCs, I'm thinking, well, how would my grandma ever use that?
	It's impossible.
	Or the other day, all credit cards failed in the Northeast, and grocery stores were cash-only, and gas stations were cash-only because the whole system went down.
	But there's a lot of people in society that don't even have mobile phones.
	They're not technical.
	They don't know what a password is.
	They're not going to be able to use it, Mark.
	How does this chasm get crossed even just for Bitcoin?
	So on the Bitcoin side, I've been saying for a long time, it's got a long way to go on the UX side of things.
	I mean, even, like, I've been in this for a long time, and, you know, the other few weeks ago, I actually moved custody on some of my Bitcoin, and I was, like, terrified through the whole process.
	Right?
	You know, and you do all the safety procedures and stuff, and you're still white-knuckling it.
	I mean, sending a Lightning payment now, it's easy peasy.
	It's just like it's easier than using Apple Pay.
	So that's already kind of happening on the Bitcoin side.
	But I tell people, look, at the end of the day, people want PayPal.
	They want it that simple.
	So how do you do that in Bitcoin?
	And it's not as simple to do it in Bitcoin because you've...
	You really want to ingrain those principles.
	You don't want to leave your crypto on a centralized exchange.
	You want to have personal control over your seed phrase and stuff.
	And some of that is hard to dumb down.
	So this is a challenge.
	On the CBDC side, I really think that governments are basically going to go with the fishing net model.
	Like, okay, we're going to get You know, 60% of the population that has smartphones and no other means of supporting themselves in this system, and we're going to sort of work with that.
	And the people who don't have smartphones, they're going to have problems.
	I mean, the name eludes me.
	It's the public system in India, right, that you get assigned the number of.
	It's not a CBDC. It's been around longer than CBDCs, but people look at it like a prototype of CBDCs.
	The CAST system?
	No, no.
	It's like a social insurance number.
	I have a chapter on it in the book.
	But there are documented cases of children who can't go to school because their family doesn't have that number.
	There's a documented case of someone who starved to death because they couldn't receive their food rations because they didn't have that number.
	Is it going to get that Hunger Games-like here in the West?
	I hope not.
	But I don't think that bureaucrats and technocrats are going to lose a lot of sleep over people who don't have smartphones.
	You're probably right.
	Yeah, just slip through the cracks and the system will just say, goodbye, you know, you're being replaced anyway.
	You're going to be in a tent city or whatever, you know?
	Yep, yep, exactly.
	All right, well, I can't believe that it's almost been an hour.
	I just looked at the clock and I'm like, no way.
	I know.
	This is a fascinating conversation.
	Mark, I want to give you an opportunity to tell us about EasyDNS.
	That's your company.
	Yeah, sure.
	I mean, yeah, started it in 98 with a couple of partners, bought them out in 2005.
	We were like a pure play DNS provider.
	Then we became ICANN accredited.
	So we do domain names and like, you know, a thousand different TLDs.
	And then we added web hosting, VPS hosting, email, and that's our main gig.
	And we've been taking Bitcoin and Ethereum and Doge, believe it or not, since 2013.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	And EZDNS is your philosophy.
	I mean, are your servers in multiple locations?
	Do you have high redundancy?
	Do you have high resistance to censorship?
	Or what's sort of your profile?
	Yeah, I mean...
	We've done a lot of work over the years of being pro-free speech, against cancel culture.
	Our main data center is right here in Canada.
	Because we're a DNS company, our name servers are all over the world.
	I actually don't even know how many name servers we identify.
	But, you know, we are pretty rigid, like we require a court order to divulge information and things like that, and we don't just do takedowns because someone yells at us that someone's a mean person, so we don't do anything like that.
	And, yeah, so we've got a pretty good track record for standing up to, you know, authorities as diverse as the City of London intellectual.
	The City of London, UK, has their own police division and their intellectual property unit once tried to get us to take down a bunch of BitTorrent domains.
	Really?
	Long story.
	We won that case.
	The U.S. FDA, we got into a little thing with them.
	And we, a long story, so I don't want to take up too much time, but then they sort of sent us this spreadsheet full of, you know, we want you to take down these domains, and we politely told them no.
	And so, you know, we've had a few turns in the ring, you know, standing up.
	The FDA asked you to take down domains?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, there was one we did take down because airmail chemist was on our system back in the day.
	We didn't even know they were on our system.
	And someone overdosed, right?
	They ordered something off of airmail chemist.
	And so we were contacted by the FDA. And...
	We went back and forth with them.
	They're actually pretty cool about it.
	And we sort of said, okay, this is what we'll do.
	We will put in a set of rules for online pharmacies that they have to be accredited by one of these three independent online pharmacy accreditation entities.
	And if you're not accredited by one of those three entities, and we actually had copious interviews and meetings with those three entities to make sure, you know, what are your accreditation procedures.
	So then we said, OK, we're going to put in this new policy for online pharmacies.
	And then after that happened, the FDA said, well, now that you've got this new policy, here's a spreadsheet of the following domains that you have to take down.
	We looked at it, and some of them were Canadian domains that were licensed by Health Canada.
	And we said, look, these are Canadian domains licensed by Health Canada.
	We are not taking these down.
	And so we did it.
	Wow.
	So I've been dying to ask somebody this question, somebody who knows this, but...
	We have this talk of the internet kill switch.
	I've talked about it.
	And my understanding was that the easiest way for governments to try to take down any web domains would be to go after the name servers, the NS nodes.
	How effective would that even be?
	A hundred percent.
	It's like turning off a switch.
	You take out the name servers and the domain disappears from the internet.
	That's what happened to WikiLeaks back in 2010.
	We got embroiled in that situation, too, when their DNS provider cut them off.
	You can either go to the DNS provider, cut off the name servers completely.
	You can go to the registrar, which is sometimes the same entity, sometimes a different entity, and you can have the registrar yank the domain from the zone, which has the same effect as pulling the name servers.
	And so what happens sometimes, you're going to love this one, You can leapfrog us or whoever the DNS provider is or even whoever the registrar is.
	Again, sometimes we're both.
	You can go to the registry operator and you can get them to yank the domain.
	And this has happened to us.
	Once or twice over the years, we get an email from Verisign who runs.com, right?
	So we'd have a customer that's got a.com name.
	We're the registrar or the DNS provider or both.
	And we get an email from Verisign that says, the following domain has been removed from your account and suspended pursuant to a sealed warrant.
	Have a nice day.
	It's like, okay, well, like, okay, we're done.
	It's over.
	There's nothing we can do.
	The two times that that's happened, it wasn't really, like, it wasn't, like, a high-profile, like, natural news or zero hedge.
	It wasn't anything like that.
	If it was, we would, like, you know, do what we can to appeal that.
	It just, it looked like, you know, something like a, like, some kind of pharmacy that not only was selling generic drugs, but, like, you know, I know the State Department has taken down websites for selling anything from counterfeit Gucci bags to illegal silencers, suppressors for firearms.
	Thank you, Todd, for just hearing this.
	I know this is not why we had you on here, Mark, but Europe is passing a lot of censorship laws.
	More U.S. states, and Canada, exactly, where they're saying that if you disagree with, it could be transgenderism, it could be Israel, it could be the war, Ukraine, I mean, pick your topic.
	If you disagree with any of those things, then you are engaged in hate speech, and that is being criminalized to the point where police, I think it's in Ireland, they're going to start arresting comedians.
	Who make jokes about this.
	So couldn't that bleed over into a lot of takedown requests based on these hate speech laws?
	Yeah, absolutely, 100%.
	Bill C-63 in Canada, the Online Harms Act, actually has a provision in it where you can be placed under house arrest or forced to wear an ankle bracelet if you haven't committed a crime yet.
	If someone thinks you might commit a hate speech crime in the future, You can be placed under house arrest or have an ankle bracelet on.
	And some people on my team, I'd be lying if I wasn't worried myself, but some people on my team are like, this could get really bad.
	Should we even think about redomiciling the company?
	I'm not there.
	I don't think we're going to get there, and I'm of the mind of, we'll fight it, right?
	We get a bad takedown request, and we're just going to say no, and we're going to spin up the lawyers, and we will fight it.
	Mark, you just need to make ankle bracelets great again.
	That's it.
	Yeah.
	The trend is worsening.
	We're seeing an acceleration of tyranny against the freedom to express dissent against any narrative.
	Well, I've been wrong about this for so long.
	I'm going to go out on a limb and be wrong again, possibly, and say, I think this is the top, right?
	Like, I really think...
	I've researched history a lot, and I think there are these hinge moments in time when it appears like the powers that be are insurmountable and just consolidating their power are actually when they are the most fragile and ready to implode and disintegrate.
	And I think we are in one of those moments right now in history.
	I think that the reason The reason these governments are pushing this so hard is because they're afraid.
	They're scared because they see the ground shifting beneath them, and that ground is shifting to the decentralized revolution.
	And so they know that the nation state as we understand it today is not even going to exist in a few generations.
	And there's no avoiding that, but they're trying to avoid it.
	And so, I mean, that's one of the things I say about CBDCs.
	The big wild card on the rollout of CBDCs is the global financial system may not hold together long enough for them to be deployed.
	That's right.
	Amen.
	You're exactly right.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Well, speech is being decentralized through a lot of apps like Bastion that we interviewed, the founder, does not require domain name resolution because it's peer-to-peer IP traffic, right?
	Simplex as well, yeah.
	And so Noster and things like that.
	You're going to have more decentralized speech, decentralized video platforms, and then also, like through our AI project at Brighteon AI and other similar open source AI projects, decentralized knowledge.
	So people don't have to go to a centralized search engine like Google to ask questions and get good answers.
	They can do it locally in a decentralized manner.
	So Bitcoin goes right along with that.
	I mean, I want to live in a world where I'm using decentralized money, knowledge, You know, healthcare, i.e.
	extracting medicine from herbs in my back forest.
	You know, I want that.
	I mean, that's why we launched the show, because we want to live lives of decentralized almost everything, except maybe national border defense.
	Hey, I want my doorbell to be decentralized.
	I don't want it to go into Amazon's cloud.
	I got a certain box on the shelf up there.
	I want it to go there, not to Amazon.
	Decentralize all the things.
	I want to have open source decentralized humanoid robots because I don't want, you know, because robots are coming, right?
	I don't want robots that are talking to the cloud and it becomes that movie iRobot with Will Smith where there's like a virus and all the robots turn bad or on purpose accidentally turn bad and start killing everybody.
	I want a local robot that is not connected to Jack, right?
	Yeah.
	I can pull the plug if I have to.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, I want my own cloud, not big techs.
	That's right.
	Mike, just stick with Rhodey.
	You got everything you need.
	I know.
	He's pretty cool.
	And he's sleeping right now, which is good.
	We should not disturb him at the moment.
	I'm sorry I've kept you a little bit long, Mark, but this has been fascinating.
	Todd, any last question for our guest today?
	Yeah, Mark, clown world turned inversion into a sport.
	And I, for one, am really grateful that you are intent on blowing it up.
	So thank you for your service, sir.
	Well, thanks for having me on.
	It's an honor and a privilege.
	Well, we've had a great time speaking with you.
	Love to have you back.
	The website, folks, is bombthrower.com, or you can go to easydns.com.
	Let me see if I have that brought up.
	Yeah, here it is.
	Easydns.com for your domain name hosting and web hosting.
	People are always asking me, where can I go to get my website hosted?
	I'm like, I don't know.
	We host our own stuff, so I really don't know.
	I'll recommend you from now on, Mark.
	I mean, host your own stuff.
	You still have to get your domain someplace, so we're happy to do that, too.
	Exactly.
	All right, well, Mark, thank you so much for spending time with us today.
	We really love your philosophy, and stay strong there in Canada.
	Justin Castro Trudeau, that guy has done more damage to your country than any one person in history.
	This too shall pass, and it'll pass with a vengeance, but yeah.
	Man, yeah, the Canadian people are strong and resilient, so yeah, you will overcome the damage that he's done.
	But thank you for joining us today.
	It's been a pleasure.
	Thanks.
	Nice to meet you both.
	Take care.
	You too.
	Take care.
	Thanks, Mark.
	All right, cheers.
	All right, Todd.
	So let's take a quick break here, and we'll come back for a little bit of after-party discussion.
	Sound good?
	You got it.
	Perfect.
	Let's do it.
	All right.
	Cheers.
	All right.
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	All right.
	Welcome back, folks.
	This is the after party.
	It's going to be maybe a not crazy long discussion today because we went a little overtime with our guests, but really awesome guests, right, Todd?
	Did you enjoy it?
	Yeah, I really enjoyed him.
	I really enjoyed him.
	You know, I love people who are just kind of normal dudes, level-headed, or dudettes, I'd say.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But, you know, in doing my research, I was listening to some of his interviews, and he was being interviewed by, you know, some Bitcoin maximalists.
	And, man, I heard so many times, which is what triggered me, you know, they just referred to everything else as a shitcoin.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, the ad-hom became nauseating to me.
	It just kind of was off-putting.
	So, you know, Mark, if you're watching this after party...
	After it's published, you know, I would suggest to you and others to just take the pedal off the gas of referring to other projects as shit coins, because there's a lot of people out there with big hearts and a lot of people maybe who have made investments or whatever, that you never know which one of those coins or projects might change the world in a different context.
	Well, I think it was really pivotal that Mark talked about how he holds Monero, and he does see value in other projects.
	But there's no argument that Bitcoin is the base layer.
	I think he was right about that.
	And Bitcoin is the one project that's so large that its proof-of-work algorithm and consensus system is practically impenetrable, which is really saying something.
	And it doesn't have to rely on proof of stake or other systems or any kind of voting system.
	I actually like that about Bitcoin.
	There's no voting.
	Because voting always ends up getting rigged one way or another.
	Or proof of stake systems.
	Usually the people who found it have all the stake.
	And it's like, well, this doesn't seem very decentralized, actually, for a lot of projects.
	But...
	I totally get your point too, Todd.
	Like when I was paying that consultant in Australia, I did not pay with Bitcoin.
	I paid with Monero.
	Because...
	If I were to pay with Bitcoin, I would have to trace all my UTXOs, you know, the unspent transactions, and I would have to check my notes and find out which UTXO is not traceable back to my KYC account at Kraken or wherever, because I don't want anybody snooping into who I'm paying or why I'm paying them.
	It's not that there's anything illegal, but it's just none of their damn business, right?
	Right.
	But with Monero, it's just like, hit send, you know?
	I don't have to worry about it.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, I think that there is, you know, as I move forward, it's I want to be able to stack some Bitcoin, right?
	Just because I want to be able to have kind of a diversified portfolio of crypto.
	But my heart is with private crypto.
	Yeah.
	And frankly, always will be because...
	I'm right there with you, but I wouldn't even say in my heart, it's just from a practical standpoint, private crypto is safer and easier for me to use, and it's less complicated.
	Now, what's interesting is it's way more complicated on the programming side.
	It is.
	To do all that encryption.
	Think about Firo and Rubin and all the stuff that Firo has gone through.
	It's complicated for them, but for me as a user, private crypto is not complicated, whereas Bitcoin is way more complicated for me to use.
	Right.
	Right.
	And by the way, I just have to get this out there into the airways.
	Mike, had another wonderful lady reach out to me today really wanting help with crypto.
	Yeah.
	And I just want to let everybody know, I can help you with tax strategies to help you keep with more of what you earn, but I am out of the crypto help desk business.
	Oh.
	I just need to say that.
	You had so many success stories of helping people recover lost wallets and so on.
	That's what happened.
	Now everybody calls you and wants your help.
	I did.
	I did.
	And I think people, because our shows are timeless, you know, they go back and binge watch from the beginning.
	And at the beginning we said, hey, you know, just give me a buzz.
	I gave my email address and people are asking just these...
	So lots of questions, and it's not that I don't want to help.
	As a matter of fact, I helped the lady today.
	She had four very specific questions, and I answered them, but I did preface it by saying, hey, I'm going to answer these, but, you know, I can't keep this as an exchange.
	It goes back and forth.
	And I hope everybody understands the reason why.
	It's just crypto...
	It is so massive, and there are so many moving parts, and there are so many people who, frankly, just don't necessarily have business getting into complicated private crypto specifically.
	I wish I could help everybody, but I just wanted to set the table that I can't.
	It gets into issues like recording your seed phrase in a safe way so that you can recover.
	Now, I think I told you about this.
	I had an incident in the last week where I had a computer system that was hosting a Monero wallet.
	And that thing, I think a DLL got overwritten in the OS or corrupted.
	And the DLL was just gone.
	And the Monero wallet, well, in this case, I think it had Exodus on it.
	It would not run.
	And at first I tried replacing the DLL. That did not work.
	That's like a Windows nightmare.
	And so I eventually had to just consider that system lost, and I just recreated the wallet on another system, re-entered the seed phrase on Exodus.
	And to the credit of Exodus, it rapidly disappeared.
	Even before it had synced the full Monero blockchain, clearly, because it had recovered my apparent balance within like a minute.
	That's awesome, Mike.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the Exodus wallet does a lot of things behind the scenes that the user doesn't see.
	And it's actually complicated.
	And I noticed, by the way, that Exodus at times has had a warning that said, if you're using Monero on Exodus, sometimes your account balance may not look correct because of difficulties syncing with the Monero blockchain, but don't worry, your funds are still safe.
	But that makes people nervous if they don't understand what's happening under the hood, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	People freak out, like the number changes on the screen, and they're like, oh my god, it's all gone, but not really.
	Crypto is hard until it's not.
	But the other thing that I realized this last weekend, I was doing some spring cleaning and I have this one specific place in my home to where I have a fireproof bag that has some hidden things in it.
	And I'm like, you know, it's been probably, I'm not even kidding, Mike, two years since I've opened that bag.
	And I started going through it and there were some projects, crypto projects and investments that I know were in there just because I'm going through my notes.
	And I'm like, oh my gosh, I really have to dedicate some time to see what's going on with a lot of these projects.
	I mean, there's one that I had like, and I know these are kind of ridiculous, but it's like 314 billion of whatever this token was.
	Is it worth that thing now?
	Yeah, I mean, because you never know, right?
	Right.
	It's kind of like that guy that I helped him restore his Bitcoin, and at the point in time, he didn't know what it was.
	I mean, at the time that he spent the money on it, it was $300.
	Well, guess what?
	By the time he recovered it, with my help, let me know it was $125,000.
	Oh, because he had two coins.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, he had acquired those for $300 way back when.
	So it's those way back when stories that are kind of fun in crypto, right?
	Yeah.
	So it's kind of like, I guess the moral of the story is you have to keep your crypto private and safe and you put them in special places, but also you kind of have to take copious notes so that if you go two years and go back, You have breadcrumbs to be able to say, ah, okay, I have 3 million M2 coins.
	Well, what the hell's an M2 coin?
	I can't quite remember, but, you know, I'm going to find out.
	Yeah, that's a really good point.
	And especially as people age, sometimes they can have more cognitive problems.
	They might not have as good a memory functioning.
	And, you know, banks are pretty forgiving where like if you lose everything, you can just go in and show them your ID and they can tell you, oh, here's your account and here's how you access it.
	They can reset your password.
	But the downside of that is that banks tie everything to your ID and you don't really own your money in the bank.
	The bank owns it and they may or may not let you take it out depending on, you know, how evil the government is that you're living under, right?
	So there's a downside when you have self-custody and you're taking responsibility for your own wallet, whether it's Bitcoin or Monero or Epic or whatever else.
	There is no saving you.
	If you don't take responsibility for your passwords and seed phrase and your custody, nobody else can come wave a magic wand and fix it for you.
	Yeah, I always like to say when I was covering crypto weekly is that in crypto, you are your own bank.
	And when you have a problem and you call customer service, it's going to ring your own cell phone and customer service is likely going to suck.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's you.
	Hey, you know, this show is decentralized.tv, Mike.
	We've interviewed a lot of great guests centering around decentralization, and I just wanted to give a couple of updates, if I could, just to let people know.
	I mean, we've talked about different ways to be able to take self-custody and beat different kinds of inflation, such as food inflation, energy inflation, etc.
	So this weekend, I got my TECO, Tampa Electric Company.
	You know, I went solar.
	And I just love it.
	This was $675 every month.
	And here it is, Mike, $24.75.
	That's my monthly note now.
	Wait, show us.
	No, I mean, where does it, which line is your $24?
	Amount due by April 9th, $24.75.
	That's the current monthly charges, and it shows that I am at a year-to-date.
	They owe me for negative 1661 kilowatt.
	Ours...
	Really?
	All I know is that I am so happy that I practice what I preach.
	We preach of taking...
	Where we can, being able to seize control, right?
	So solar, I was able to invest in solar, nothing out of pocket.
	It immediately lowered my, you know, I have the cost of the solar, the loans, 25-year loan, ended up being like $313 a month for 25 years, but I was paying $675.
	Right.
	So you've cut your electric bill in half, basically.
	Yeah.
	In half.
	I didn't have to come out of pocket, and now my electric bill is $24 instead of the $675.
	Now I do have to pay the $313, and I just filed my taxes, so I'm going to get a $30,000 tax credit back as well.
	So that's a good guy, because the government, that's part of the deal right now, to be able to encourage people to do that.
	So that, A. B. My food forest has expired.
	That's what I was going to ask you.
	Oh my gosh.
	I'm getting a lot of fruit.
	But more than anything, I told my wife, I said, I walk out there and everything is becoming so just magnificent.
	Oh yeah.
	And you can feel the energy when I walk through it.
	I'm not kidding you.
	It is they give off this specific energy and I'm just, I'm loving it.
	I'm loving it.
	And the third thing that I'm going to be updating people on this weekend is I've spent all day yesterday and today building my Flow Hive number two.
	If people go to flowhive.com, you'll be able to see what I'm building.
	But I am getting into the beekeeping business.
	I have a local beekeeper who's bringing over 3,000 bees on Saturday.
	I have the Flow Hive set up.
	In the back.
	And so I'm going to start learning how to do it.
	But the cool thing is, Mike, is that when you start doing this, you start realizing there's so much that you don't know, but it opens up a whole new world.
	There they are.
	There's the flow hive.
	Yeah, and so for me, it's like now I can see how this is going to be a wonderful hobby for me.
	It's going to be food for the soul.
	I can't wait to learn.
	But to be able to get this bounty of honey on an annual basis, if I do it right, I intend to be able to do it right.
	Wow.
	So those are a few updates.
	I'm just super excited about everything that's going on.
	All right.
	When it hits the fan, party at Todd's house, unlimited honey and papayas.
	And by the way, by the way, I was thinking about that.
	You know, when it hits the fan, people might want to come raid my food forest.
	So you know what I think I might change, modify just a bit?
	Maybe the bees that I raise, I'll raise killer bees.
	Are you kidding, everybody?
	You could have killer bee honey.
	Africanized killer bees.
	Don't mess with my food, Forrester.
	I'll say, sick them, roadie.
	Oh, man.
	I like the way you think, though.
	Swarm technology is being used for drones.
	You could just use the bio version of honeybees.
	Yeah.
	Right, right.
	Or maybe I have two areas back there, you know, one that's kind of like behind closed doors.
	It's the secret swarm, you know, and I'll pull those out when people enter my backyard.
	But no, it's just very cool.
	And it's one of those things, Mike, that I was thinking that it's like I'm sure glad that I took the first step to actually do these things, right?
	I mean, and they went from interviews to action.
	And what I am thinking of now is the amount that I invested in the food forest is it's like I'm growing money now.
	No kidding.
	I mean, I'm walking out there.
	I have this peach tree that is just going to be so bountiful.
	These little peaches are coming in.
	They're so darn cute.
	Yeah.
	But to me, it's just a miracle seeing it all come in.
	Oh, yeah.
	Absolutely.
	I love the fact that you actually take the actions.
	You practice what you preach.
	You're involved in it.
	And, you know, I'm the same way, as you know, working on a number of projects right now.
	I'll give you more details about that.
	I do have one thing to announce here, which is kind of related to one of our affiliate sponsors, which is Above Phone, that sells the de-Googled phones.
	We now have a Brighteon edition of the de-Googled phones that's available.
	And if you go to abovephone.com slash DTV, you can show my screen, guys.
	You can get a de-Googled phone.
	Just ask for the Brighteon edition.
	And it comes with some special default pages in the browser for Brighteon.
	And we're also adding our app, To the above phone ecosystem.
	And then coming up, this is not yet available, but coming up soon, we're going to have a smaller version of our large language model AI system that works on the phone.
	Wow.
	Again, we're still a couple months away on that, but that way you'll be able to walk around with a knowledge base to ask it questions offline.
	So even if there's a power outage, even if the grid's down...
	Mike, what about their laptops?
	Are you going to be able to put the full version?
	Yeah, that's the plan of the above books that they sell.
	The above books, right?
	Yep.
	And then we will have the larger language model on there with the appropriate software to run it.
	We've actually just produced a standalone executable version of our language model.
	That fits inside of four gigabytes.
	And so all you need is one.exe file.
	And actually it works on Windows and Macs, by the way.
	It's based on the LLAMA file code libraries.
	But it's pretty cool.
	You launch it and it just launches in a browser and you can just chat with the language model locally through your browser tab, even if you're offline.
	Hey, Mike, can you speak to the importance of getting a de-Googled phone and just kind of comment a little bit on the current events that happened today that we're all hearing about with Apple?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So, yeah, a major bug was found in the Apple processing units.
	I think it's the M1 chips, is that what they're called?
	Yeah, I think so.
	And it's a side-channel attack that takes advantage of the vulnerabilities of the cache memory that sits closer to the CPU, and it means that all of your encryption keys on all of these Apple devices can be sniffed out by malicious code running at the same time that you're running an encryption app.
	So basically, this is an NSA backdoor to all Apple devices, and it's a bug that's in the hardware, can't be fixed with a software update.
	So, folks, if you think Apple is secure, your world just got blown up.
	So that means anything that you're doing on your Apple phone that you think is encrypted is not.
	If you're entering a password, it can be seen.
	If you have encryption keys for your crypto wallet on an Apple device, that can be sniffed out.
	Anything, all forms of encryption are now basically exposed on those microchips.
	They're going to have to recall millions of phones.
	Yeah, if people trust Clown World, you know, that's okay.
	Keep trusting.
	But a good alternative solution is AbovePhone.
	That's right.
	So AbovePhone.com slash DTV. That does help support the show a little bit.
	They're an affiliate sponsor, and they sell Android-based, de-Googled phones that do not report to Google.
	They do not spy on you.
	They don't even have Google on them.
	No Google Play, no Apple.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Now, it's Google hardware that has been mind-wiped and then relayed with this new de-Googled operating system, and then AbovePhone has a lot of special solutions and applications on there for all your private messaging, your VPN, and they even have the ability to pay for the phone services using crypto.
	Including Monero.
	So you can have a totally private phone-like ecosystem that is not tied to your credit card, not tied to your name.
	Check them out.
	You can actually pay for the above book and the above phone with crypto.
	In crypto.
	That's right.
	Yeah, very cool.
	Private crypto.
	Yep.
	And I just published an interview with Ramiro, who was here in studio, to talk about all this new stuff.
	So that's online now.
	Now, I want to ask you, Todd, then, to plug what you have, which is decentralizeddirectory.com.
	Tell our audience a little bit about that.
	Yeah, decentralizeddirectory.com.
	I would say that the greatest value that I add is, you know, we can architect our financial life, Mike, lawfully to keep more of what we earn.
	And I've helped a lot of people arrive at that conclusion.
	And if you go down, Mike, and scroll down to where it's key partners supporting decentralization.
	Is that it?
	Click here to explore.
	Yeah, and then if you go down, and if people want to click on the tax, what is the middle one?
	Protective Unincorporated Nonprofit Association.
	Yes.
	If people want to just review that and it is of interest at all, basically, Mike, this is a no-brainer decision.
	If somebody has W-2 or 1099 income to where they're paying more than $5,500 in taxes, this is an absolutely no-brainer.
	I mean, just...
	So I really encourage people, if you do want to keep more of what you earn, and now we aren't talking about tax evasion, there is something called tax avoidance, which is the lawful avoidance of taxes, meaning, and you know this, Mike, I'm sure, is that if we never sign that first bill,
	W-2, way back when, when we were 17 and everybody said that's what you had to do, we would have never been contractually obligated to be able to pay federal and state income taxes.
	So there are a lot of people who are becoming what's called state nationals and jumping through a lot of hoops, and that's cool for a lot of people.
	For me, that's not the easy button.
	I like the easy button, and I know there is a lawful way, a protective tax structure that allows you to be able to lawfully It's provided by the IRS, a tax-exempt entity, that allows you to be able to contract.
	Basically, you pivot from if you contracted with someone as a...
	A 1099 employee, you can change that and contract as your entity where you control everything, but you then are tax-exempt.
	And as I understand it, this is a vehicle used by a lot of, like, members of Congress and wealthy elite kind of secret families.
	Over 40 years.
	And it is what the elites use.
	There are so many advantages to it.
	I talk about keeping more of what you earn.
	That's just the tip of the iceberg.
	You go a little deeper and you're able to protect your private property.
	Man, oh man, back in 2008, Mike, I went through a really tough time in my life to where I made a bad bet on a business.
	I had to file personal bankruptcy at that point in time.
	Oh my goodness!
	If I would have known about this entity, which I personally had now for over four years, I would have never lost my hope.
	Wow.
	Yeah, it's that powerful.
	Well, that's powerful.
	Okay, so let me just remind the audience, your website, Todd, is decentralizeddirectory.com, and you can book a call with Todd, but don't ask him about how do I log into my crypto wallet, because that's not what this is about.
	Right.
	I don't want to waste anybody's investment of their time or mine, frankly.
	It is like if you're a W-2 earner, 1099 earner, you'll likely want to have a conversation with me.
	Just keep it at that.
	Fair enough.
	Well, this feeds into the whole philosophy of the show, which is we want to help people Control their lives, have more self-sovereignty just in terms of their own decision-making, and not be tied down by nefarious forces and overburdensome regulations or what have you.
	Now, we comply with the law in everything that we do.
	We don't engage in money laundering, and we don't tell people to speculate in things.
	We abide by the law, but we research a little deeper than most people, I would say, into what's possible.
	You know, I had one consultation this last week, and they were like, well, why haven't I ever heard about it?
	And I'm like, well, those who have these, they don't really want to talk about it.
	They don't want to screw up a good thing.
	And then the other question, why hasn't this entity been legislated out?
	It's because the legislators have them.
	This is what they use.
	We have to break the spell.
	I mean, these people want to keep more of what they earn, too.
	Yeah, isn't it amazing how someone becomes a member of Congress, and then somehow their personal wealth explodes, and their assets explode, and all their stock bets do really well, and it's like, how is that happening?
	Well, because they have inside information.
	And it's legal for them.
	It's legal, by the way.
	The insider trading, that actually is legal.
	In Congress, they can do it.
	In Congress.
	Yeah, I guess if you want to engage in insider trading, just get elected to Congress, and then you can do it legally.
	For the rest of us, it's a felony, but for Congress, it's perfectly legal.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, Todd, good show today.
	Great conversation.
	We've covered a lot of bases.
	I know you're going to be out for a couple of weeks.
	Two weeks.
	I don't know what you're doing.
	I don't need to know.
	It might be a fishing adventure.
	Not sure.
	It's all good.
	I'm going to tame Africanized killer bees, Mike.
	Oh, are you?
	Yeah, there you go.
	Part of the new Todd Pitner decentralized weapons platform right there.
	But we'll pick it back up with you when you're back.
	And in the meantime, we've got a couple of older episodes that have yet to run, so we're going to put those out and get caught up.
	So thank you, Todd, for your time today.
	It's been great.
	Thank you, Mike.
	And Mark Jephtovic, thank you for being an awesome guest.
	We want to definitely have you back on again.
	You were thumbs up.
	Let's take a shot at pronouncing his last name.
	Yevkovic.
	I'm just going to say Jevtovic.
	Jevtovic.
	But I think, wouldn't it be more Yevtovic?
	Yevtovic.
	That's cooler.
	That sounds way cooler.
	Mark Yevtovic.
	Mark Yevtovic.
	We should just give it up now.
	We have Russian missile systems now.
	By the way, my wife is Russian, you know?
	Yes.
	And I want to say the last name as I hear her say it.
	Okay.
	Because I think you say it differently.
	But Medvedev.
	Wait.
	Medvedev?
	Oh, man.
	Now I'm...
	Oh, I say Medvedev.
	Medvedev.
	It's Miedvedev.
	Miedvedev.
	Miedvedev.
	Oh, okay.
	That's how she said it.
	Miedvedev.
	I will try to get that right.
	Well, you may have it right.
	My wife may have it wrong.
	No, she knows better than I. She's Russian.
	Or my enunciation may have it.
	But Miedvedev.
	Miedvedev.
	That's how she said it.
	Miedvedev.
	All right.
	I was happy that I could just pronounce Advevka.
	The city.
	Because everybody screws that up in America.
	Everybody gets that right.
	Avdievka.
	Okay, got it.
	People have really screwed up Pitner.
	It rhymes with a lot of things.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, I would imagine.
	I would imagine.
	But hey, at least Putin has a simple name for Westerners to pronounce, so that's kind of easy.
	It's only five letters.
	Pretty easy for Americans to figure out.
	Otherwise, we'd be completely lost.
	Wouldn't even know who the president of Russia is.
	I remember when Putin first came on the scene.
	Putin.
	My daughters and I cracked up because they were, you know, anything associated with poots, right?
	It was just funny.
	So, oh, he's a Putin, girls!
	And they cracked up.
	They would belly laugh.
	It's the little things Mike and Mike.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	All right.
	Well, we'll end it there.
	But great show today, Todd.
	We covered a lot of bases, and we didn't get too out of control either.
	So that's a good sign.
	Not that.
	Yeah, I don't think there'll be a lot of heavy editing in the after party.
	No, hopefully not.
	Okay, Mike.
	Well, listen, I hope you have a great, great next couple of weeks, and I can't wait until the next time we're on together.
	Okay.
	You too, Todd.
	Have a great adventure.
	We'll talk again soon.
	Take care.
	Okay.
	Cheers.
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	We need to put on our calendar our one-year anniversary of our first episode.
	I don't even know what that is.
	I have no idea.
	But we'll figure it out.
	But yeah, we have to do something special on our one year anniversary.
	Something special.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	We do have a stuffed astronaut in the studio right now.
	If that's...
	Hey, can somebody throw me the stuffed astronaut without awakening Rhodey, if that's possible?
	You know, so, yeah, what's funny, Todd, is we have a guest coming in studio who is an expert in what he says is the fake moon landing narrative.
	Oh, good.
	Don't let him eat the astronaut.
	Just bring it on around.
	Just bring it over here and then throw it.
	Throw the astronaut at me before he takes it from you.
	This is not DTV, man.
	Toss it.
	Okay.
	Yay!
	Okay, here's...
	No, no, no.
	Rhodey is awakened now.
	So this is our...
	This is our stuffed astronaut...
	Hey!
	Oh, Rhodey wants to tear this astronaut...
	Wow!
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Is that the actual one that landed on the moon, Mike?
	This is...
	Not only do we have this, we have an astronaut helmet for Captain Rhodey.
	I'm not going to put it on him right now because he's too short.
	No, no, this is not for you.
	No.
	Off.
	Okay.
	Well, there goes the rest of the show, but there's our slumping astronaut right there.
	So maybe we could do something sort of moon landing oriented for the one year show.
	Yeah, we could go to a studio.
	Where did they film it?
	In Phoenix or somewhere around there?
	I don't know.
	It's hard to keep track of all the different stories and explanations.
	But I do have inflatable moons.
	I have inflatable moon beach balls here as well.
	All right.
	I'm sure they won't last very long once he gets his teeth on them.
	No.
	But it's possible.
	Anyway, just sharing a little bit of upcoming, you know, a little preview of what's coming up here.
	I will hold my breath.
	Okay, there you go.
	Maybe NASA is in the house.
	Sort of not really making it.
	There we go.
	Okay, no!
	Off!
	Okay, I gotta go.
	Alright, we'll see you, Mike.
	We'll see you.
	Bye, everybody.

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