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March 28, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
01:05:36
Ramiro from Above Phone announces Brighteon edition of de-googled privacy phones
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Welcome to this interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and the theme today is the need to de-Google your life.
You've probably seen recently that Google AI has some weird, twisted, anti-white, woke agenda.
But the truth is, it doesn't stop there.
Google's bad for your freedom.
Google's bad for your health.
Google's bad for your life.
And the faster you can get away from Google on all your devices, including your mobile phone, the more free and the more informed and the more aware and alive you will be.
And today we have in studio a really special guest, Ramiro from AbovePhone.com that specializes in making de-Googled phones.
Welcome, Ramiro.
It's a pleasure to be here, Mike.
Thanks for having me.
I am honored that you're here in studio.
I mean, we've done interviews remotely before, and we partnered with your company, I don't know, was it like a year ago or something?
People are really loving your de-Googled phones.
But this is the first time that you've been here in person, so thank you for coming.
That's what it's all about, right?
It's like, actually, I'm starting to feel this is the phone you need if you're too plugged in.
You know what I mean?
It's like disconnecting.
Phones are just disconnecting us from life.
So anytime I can get a chance to come out here and be in person, that's what it's really about.
Thanks for having me out.
Absolutely.
We'd love having you here.
So just for people who are not familiar with, let's just start with the basics.
Your company, AbovePhone.com.
And the phones that you currently offer, just give us the rundown of what that's all about and what they are.
Sure.
So the above phone is a de-Googled phone, right?
It's a phone that doesn't have any big tech on it at all.
It's not making any connections to big tech servers.
And you have to get the context of...
How often a regular phone is connecting to big tech, whether that's Google or it's Apple, it's usually connecting every five minutes, so this phone is devoid of that.
There's zero connections, and this is something we've verified as well.
And so it's a phone that can work with any cell service.
You can still get all the apps that you want.
It's just giving you a lot more...
And it opens a lot of new doors to software that is made by everyday people, not giant companies that are looking to surveil your data.
And so we've done this project for more than two years now.
We have over 1,000 customers, so we've really learned.
We've really learned what it takes to bring someone, maybe who's not so technologically adept, and get them to work with all this tech.
And it's easier than you might think.
Okay, let's back up a little bit.
Thank you for that explanation.
I started using, even before I met you, before I knew about your company, I was using a different de-Googled phone several years ago.
And then I found out about your company, actually because of John Bush at the event.
And we've got to thank John Bush for that as well.
Then I found out that...
Your phone offers this package of pre-installed apps that work well together and that you can pay for your data using crypto, which was a big deal to me because I wanted to have a phone that I could take with me somewhere that wasn't spying on me and wasn't tied to my credit card or my name in any way whatsoever.
And that's what your company allowed me to do.
Totally.
It's all about the ecosystem, right?
We're not just trying to solve one piece of the puzzle.
It needs to be all the interconnected pieces.
And that's what Google and Apple kind of realize.
They bring you into the ecosystem, and then when you're in, they build walls around you.
Well, this ecosystem is designed to be a little bit different.
It's designed to be free and open.
So, you know, you might decide to use our cell service, which we have a new version of our cell service coming out in April, and that's going to have native speeds here in the United States, so we're excited about that.
But you're not limited to that.
You know, you could use any cell service anywhere, anywhere in the world, and I think that's a really big deal.
As all that you mentioned above Suite, so those are a set of communication services, right?
We can't use Zoom anymore because they're recording our face and they're probably making avatars of us, right?
With the Apple Vision Pro.
So we have alternatives to that.
We have alternative video conferencing, encrypted chat, internet phone numbers, all these new different tools that we need to start using and utilizing so we're proficient at them.
Because right now, this might seem niche for some people.
They're like, why do you do this?
In the future, these are going to be the real ways to communicate.
Good point.
Yeah, good point.
We've seen some really concerning things over the last few years.
For example, a lot of people, even journalists who were present on January 6th, who were not violent, they didn't break any laws, and then the federal government retroactively drew a virtual boundary and said that if you were inside this boundary, then you were trespassing somehow.
Not even inside the Capitol building, but just on the grounds, even though it's supposed to be the place of the people, right?
But the way that they then arrested people was they went to Google and Apple and they got people's metadata of their geolocation based off their phone linked to their identity, and then they went out and broke down people's doors and arrested them.
So Google and Apple became complicit, in my view, with spying on you and turning over your metadata to law enforcement that abused that to try to imprison innocent people, including many journalists, because they were labeled political dissidents.
So a lot of people don't realize, maybe even those watching this, they don't realize that an iPhone spies on you and a Google Android phone, which is almost all the normal Android phones, spies on you constantly, like you said, every five minutes.
And then there's, you know, it is spying on you constantly, and because these operating systems, like the software that's running on this phone, is proprietary, you aren't actually in control of what happens.
You just have to take their word for it.
Maybe you scroll past those terms of service.
And a lot of the times those terms of service aren't giving you the full picture, and Google has to be called out in a class action lawsuit, which a few cases that I'm going to talk about today, and Apple has to undergo that same thing.
Sometimes even these representatives at the companies don't know the extent of the spying that's going on, and that's that plausible deniability.
I think back in the day when people were becoming aware of their phones, listening to them and targeting them with advertising, they would ask representatives from Google and Apple, and they say, we don't know anything about that.
It's like different layers of deception.
And that's really what privacy is.
Right.
But see, with Google especially, we also know that then the NSA has a backdoor into Google.
So if Google's spying on us, then the NSA can weaponize that information against us in an unconstitutional, illegal manner in order to specifically target, for example, political opponents.
I mean, Tucker Carlson was talking about how I think you said the CIA spied on him and got his emails and was trying to prevent him from interviewing Putin in Russia.
I mean, here's an example.
Right.
And Tucker uses Signal, which I think he was talking about, which again is funded by the U.S. government.
So we're using this privacy tech, and a lot of it has already been co-opted by the U.S. government.
And I think...
We just need to be extremely careful of what we put our communications on.
And in Tucker's case, I don't think he was using the Google phone.
He's never really mentioned it.
But someone at his level, he's going to be targeted anyways, right?
And people always ask me, like, is this going to protect me from the NSA or CIA? Probably nothing is going to protect me.
Throw away your phone and...
Go back to typewriters.
Go back to typewriters.
Avoid the satellites.
This is for the person who wants to avoid mass surveillance.
And I think there's a difference, right?
There's a difference between surveillance and being targeted and mass surveillance.
And when it comes to the mass surveillance side, a lot of these companies are lazy.
Through your consent, your uninformed consent, by using these devices, they're able to Log what you're typing and what you're searching, what you're even speaking about.
But if you detach, if you remove your consent and you start to use these alternative technologies, you have to work a lot harder.
And then it turns out you're living your life normally.
You're not a criminal.
You're not dangerous.
There's such an opportunity cost for them to try and target you at that point.
And that's really the goal we have to build towards.
Okay, good point.
Now, the website, folks, if you want to get a de-googled phone for yourself, it's abovephone.com.
And if you put slash DTV, then that also gives us credit because we partnered with the Above Phone company.
And DTV is short for decentralized TV. I think by the time this interview comes out, we're going to have a Brydian link as well.
Oh, what is that?
The Brydian link is going to be for the Brydian edition of the above phone.
And that's going to be really cool because we're putting custom apps on there.
We're going to put Brydian on there and also the Health Ranger app.
Okay, so what would that be?
AbovePhone.com slash Brighteon?
Slash Brighteon.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's even easier for people to remember.
Okay, so AbovePhone.com slash Brighteon.
But you just dropped some bombshells right there.
So you're going to have a Brighteon edition of AbovePhone.
Okay.
Yes, it's going to be one of the first custom edition phones we're doing with our partners.
Very cool.
It's this concept I call the content supply chain.
How can we reduce the number of layers between people sharing an important message and the viewer?
We can't have them going through algorithms.
That's what this phone is all about.
You can download music and movies and videos from YouTube using this phone, using these new apps, right?
And that's how I think it should be.
You should directly be notified when your favorite content creator is creating something and have a way to get directly to them.
So this phone is a perfect opportunity to do that.
Well, so we're going to be giving you the APK file for the Brighteon app, which is actually the natural news app that also includes Brighteon videos.
So that will come preloaded on the phone.
Yeah.
Now, I know, I hope you're okay that I kind of tease this.
I want to tell our audience this isn't ready yet.
This is still in the experimental stage.
But what I want to be able to do...
Oh, and they've sent helicopters after us, Ramiro.
There they are.
It's a no-fly zone.
Yeah.
No, the helicopters have arrived.
They're going to land in the parking lot.
No, I'm joking.
We're not far from a...
Heliport.
Heliport?
We're not far from the heliport.
Urgent deliveries.
They're airdropping stuff over here.
What we want to put on your phones as part of the Brighteon package, when it's possible, it's probably many months out, but we want to put A large language model app so that someone can ask a question right on their phone and they can get answers from our LLM. And the LLM is trained in, you know, herbs and nutrition and things like that.
But I know you're very interested in working with us on that.
I don't know yet if we can make a model small enough that will work in a timely manner and have enough, you know, throughput.
But we're going to try it.
We are going to try it.
And I think, you know, we're democratizing AI. And I think it's just a really important solution.
And I'm thankful that your team has taken the first step and compiled all the information you've been gathering over the years.
Because, I mean, just to be truthful, there are some people who just swear off of AI. They're like, oh, this is evil.
You know, it's evil incarnate.
Don't talk to them.
I've heard from some of those people, yeah.
Right?
And it's like, hey, maybe don't be so absolutist about it and kind of try, because there are ways that it can assist you.
One thing I'm really interested in is the local language models, right?
Not connecting to any servers.
So this is what we're planning, Mike and I, is having a local AI model on your phone that you can talk to.
Now, that would be really cool.
And it's also going to be completely your consent to put it on there, right?
This is just information.
Right.
Now, where we really want to take that, by the way, is where it does speech-to-text.
So you can pick up the phone, you can talk to it, it does speech-to-text.
The text then gets pushed to the LLM as a query, and then the LLM responds with either text or speech.
Okay, that'd be cool.
So, you know, speech-to-text, to query, to text, back to speech.
We've already got the speech-to-text part figured out.
Oh, you do?
Yes.
Well, that's half the battle right there.
Right?
And then it's just the input of it getting to the chat system.
But yeah, talking back to you would be really cool.
Maybe we could get your face or something too and just like...
Gotta take these herbs.
That would be freaky.
Let's not do that.
Let's not do that.
But the speech-to-text part...
So you have a good transcription or voice recognition engine that runs on the phones now?
Yes, and it's completely local.
I can't take credit for it.
It's this group out of Austin near us, actually, called Futo.
And they are a consortium, and they take money, and they invest it into open-source projects.
So they have a Futo voice input app that you can already use.
Wow.
And it's headed by Louis Rossman.
Well, he's one of the main players in it now.
And he's a really popular Right to Repair YouTuber.
Okay.
And so they've been doing some really good work with that.
So we've already got that app on the phone.
And it works flawlessly.
It's already integrated with a bunch of open source keyboards.
So you literally hit that microphone icon.
You speak.
It does perfect punctuation, perfect sentence structure, all of that.
And it does multiple languages, too.
Oh, wow.
I was in Mexico a few months ago.
I was using it to barter and figure out what the hell I was doing.
Okay, so this is going to be a game changer, and it's important that our audience knows that all these functions we're talking about are offline.
It's just local on your phone.
So even if you're out in the middle of nowhere and you don't have cell service, you don't have any bandwidth at all, you could still get answers from the language model using your phone.
Yeah, and I think, yeah, and now we've transported this into, this phone is potentially a time capsule, isn't it?
Right?
Right.
Let's say all the internet is wiped out, and you've got this local language model, and you can still use it to ask questions about repair or construction.
Or survival skills.
Exactly.
Totally.
And that's one of the other things I wanted to partner with you on is to bring books, like really old books from the 1700s to the 1900s without copyright and put them in a model.
Oh, we're already on top of that.
Yeah, boom.
It's actually pre-1964.
Is that the cutoff?
In the U.S.? Uh-huh.
Almost everything published before 1964 is now in the public domain.
Almost everything, because of the way the copyright laws worked.
1964.
Yeah.
It started going to shit right after that.
Yeah, that's true.
Things got bad.
All right, just to wrap up this segment, Romero, from a practical standpoint...
If people get a de-Googled phone, then their phone isn't spying on them.
The phone doesn't talk to Google at all.
It doesn't even have Google Play on it, by the way.
That's not even part of the ecosystem.
I will say, there's a little bit of nuance to that.
By default, it has none of that.
But it still gives you the freedom to add Google Play if you want.
Oh, if you want.
It's in a neutered fashion, too.
It's way safer than a normal phone.
But sometimes you might have to do that for things like Uber and Airbnb, banking apps.
But there's always alternatives.
You can use those in the web browser.
You can use those banking apps in the web browser.
Sorry, just thought I... No, thanks for clarifying, because I don't ever put Google Play.
But then again, I don't use Uber or Airbnb or any of those people.
You've got the helicopter.
Yeah, the helicopter's waiting for us.
But it does mean then that when I want to install apps, I do have to go out and find the APK, typically.
You'll go directly to the developer.
Yeah, and there's a bunch of awesome places to find that.
My friend Rahul from India built Aurora Store, which is a way to download apps off of the Google Play.
I'm familiar with Aurora, yeah.
So you know all about that.
And then you can also get apps directly from the developer, right?
That APK file will go directly to their software repository and download it from them.
So we're decentralizing this app distribution.
Now, Google and Apple can't be in the middle of that and be like, let me get my 30% cut.
Oh, let me ban you because you're about bringing unvaccinated people together.
They can't do that anymore.
Yeah.
Well, the world is becoming more decentralized, and that's why we love partnering with Above Phone, because that's what you're all about as well.
Let's take big tech out of our lives and stop giving big tech control over us and also protect our privacy at the same time.
This is really important given where things are headed in the world.
So let's talk about one of the trends.
We have Elon Musk bragging about Neuralink.
I'm not sure why you would brag about implanting circuits in somebody's brain and being able to control them.
That sounds like a nightmare to me, but what do you think the future holds for the integration of biology and technology?
I think if you look at the trends and the products that both Google and Apple are coming out with and also a lot of the think tank research behind them, it seems like they're really obsessed about combining our biology with more sensors.
And so the few trends I see is really, I'm about to release this article on TakeBackOurTech.org, It might be published by the time this interview is out.
But it's the Apple Vision Pro, and that's something I paid a lot of attention to.
Because, I mean, in a lot of ways, it's going to change the face of computing if people step into that domain.
But, you know, people have to also realize that that thing is iris scanning you.
Yes, it is.
Face scanning.
And there's no choice about it.
And also, something that I don't think a lot of people are paying attention to is the amount of research that went into creating that thing.
17 years of research, 5,000 patents.
A lot of these patents are about reading your brainwaves and these other health indicators like your heart rate, skin temperature, all these different things.
And there's even patents for these sensors existing in things like AirPods and those Bluetooth earbuds.
So it's one of those cases is, can these things read our brainwaves, read our thoughts?
Would Apple and Google have access to that technology, and would they be able to roll it out?
Well, it seems like that's inevitable if it's not already happening.
I've read articles about tech that can interpret your brainwaves and then recreate the words that you're thinking, for example.
That sounds like mind-reading to me.
Yeah, I think that project is out of Australia.
It's like Dave, Dave OS, Dave OS. Yeah, I forgot the name of it.
That sounds familiar.
And yeah, so they have this large language model that can read our EEGs and transform them into text.
And it's running at around 40% accuracy.
And there are certain test cases where it went up to 60%.
They want that to be at 90%.
Sure.
Sure.
And they need electrodes really attached to your head in order to get clear data.
It's a very sensitive procedure.
So even when you look at the patents for AirPods, there's a lot of balancing and neutralizing different sensors at different points to take different measurements and to account for noise.
But they're really obsessed with putting as many sensors as possible into these headsets.
And eventually it seems like the direction they want to go is to give you real-time health information about yourself, which sounds like a really nice thing.
But do you really trust Apple to keep that data on the device?
Well, and ultimately where I think it's going is that, of course, they'll have embedded drug administering.
And so they'll monitor your brainwaves, and if you start to think too many thoughts that are more individual thoughts or dissenting thoughts, then they can hit you with a drug.
Yeah, exactly.
And suddenly, oh, you're peaceful and you're not thinking about resisting the authoritarians anymore.
Right?
I mean, it's a dystopian wet dream future, but it's almost here.
It's almost here, and I think we are, you know, this conversation, this is like public research, you know, these AI systems we're talking about.
The code is available on places like GitHub, and so there's the AI we were talking about that can describe it to text.
There's also AI that can transcribe EEGs into pictures, and that one's called Dream Diffusion.
So, you know, we're moving into that era, and all you have to do is, folks, just don't put on the headset.
Just don't put on the headset, even the Bluetooth ones.
I mean, there's a whole, you know, you're frying your brain when you do that.
That's just the reality of it.
But you know they're going to continue to push for it, so let's go back to Apple Vision Pro, this idea of augmented reality.
You can see, just like now, there are certain retail stores, especially in Europe, where you can't get in the store unless you scan the code.
Right.
And then it tracks you and who you are and has an interchange with your phone.
There's going to be a point where a certain technology is required for you to participate in society, and that's how they're going to gain control over a lot of people.
For example, CBDCs.
But when it comes to augmented reality, you can imagine in the not-too-distant future...
There could be, I don't know, you might be attending an event, but if you go there just with your human eyeballs, you're looking around like, nothing's happening here.
Where's the event?
And then, oh, you've got to put on the augmented reality goggles.
And then Marina Abramovic pops up.
Right, and then it's like, oh, it's a party, everything's happening, and here's, you know...
Which, who would want to go to a party like that?
I would just be like, guys, there's nothing here.
There's nothing here, yeah.
But it's convincing to a lot of people, and given that a lot of human lives are rather lonely and miserable, a lot of people would go for that.
Especially porn.
Don't forget about Apple Vision Pro porn.
What about a giant stripper party?
How compelling would that be, especially to a lot of young males, the incels that have no girlfriends?
They're like, ah, go to the stripper party with Apple Vision Pro.
I'm really glad you brought that up.
Is this your next project?
No, I'm kidding.
Above polls.
Above porn.
No, we're not doing anything like that.
I've been thinking about this a lot.
If you look at research, there's this doctor, Dr.
Deloney, out of West Texas, who's been doing a lot of research into how alone people are feeling, specifically anxiety.
Part of his group did a survey, and they surveyed how many close friends do we have now.
And it was something like an average of less than three.
Most people were below that.
And so this technology, we're using it to plug this hole.
The whole porn thing, the virtual reality thing, people are just escaping from their problems.
That's right.
And I think we really need technology.
Well, technology's got to cut that part out, and hopefully we can use it intentionally to bring us back to what's really important, coming here in person like this.
Oh, and let me add, there are A-I-L-L-M girlfriends.
Yes, there are.
So I've seen stories where, especially young men, incels typically, are in love with their chatbots.
Yeah.
That's freaky.
You've got to ask yourself, have they ever talked to a girl before?
Or have we just lost it completely?
And there's a lot of healing to do.
And I think that as men and as women, we really need to help pull each other out of this.
And to be honest, I think some people are just going to stay in that cycle.
Oh, clearly.
But for us that are aware of it, we need to push extra hard in the other direction.
And that's what, above phone isn't a dumb phone.
It can do everything a smartphone can do.
It's a wise phone.
But I think that is part of our strategy here, to bring people into person.
And so earlier you mentioned how are we going to get into a grocery store.
Now is really the time.
The next year or two, we need to start producing food at home and we need to have all that locally on our maps.
Absolutely.
So this is one of the reasons why I love your worldview is because you and I are both into growing food.
We're both into nutrition and self-reliance.
And perhaps that might not have been obvious to our audience because you're a tech guy.
But you're also somebody who believes in producing high-nutritive foods or superfoods and being as self-reliant as possible.
And so you and I kind of share a very similar philosophy, which is that we're not so-called Luddites.
We're not living an Amish lifestyle.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I admire the Amish in many ways and the Mennonites.
But we choose to use technology, not to just reject it and not even understand it, but rather to dive into it and see how we can harness it for human freedom.
Absolutely.
And that's what makes what we do and what you do really unique.
I mean, there's lots of people who are into technology, but mostly to enslave humans or to just get rich or whatever.
That's not what turns us on, man.
This is like technology for human freedom.
Absolutely.
It's just a tool waiting for us to express ourselves through it.
And, you know, just a gripe I have with a lot of the technology community is that they're either contributing to building a prison around us.
I mean, that's what I was asked to do when I worked in New York City.
It was literally to join one of these big tech companies and start working on their products.
That is a nightmare.
And that's when, I mean, COVID was happening around that same time.
You lived in New York City, really?
I did.
Whoa.
It was kind of...
It was fun before all this crap happened.
Oh.
Yeah.
In the good days of New York City.
In the good days.
And then it just became crap overnight.
Yes, that's what Eric Adams says now.
Yeah.
Well...
The mayor, he's like...
He had his hand in that.
Well, so...
Yeah, absolutely.
It's like this holistic approach.
I really don't think we should...
We shouldn't be handing over our power.
Even when it comes to these phones, we don't want to...
We are going to help guide you, but we're not your gurus.
The decisions you're making on how to use this phone, they're your decisions.
We're going to try and give you all the information up front.
It's really our journey to figure out.
Just as how you feel with all the products you have with the Health Ranger store and all the content you have coming out, you don't want people to just blindly go for it.
You want them to...
I've always encouraged people to think for themselves.
And in fact, I find the whole guru approach very offensive.
I despise people who try to position themselves as gurus where you should always just follow them and believe them without thinking.
That's just like a cult.
And the world is not helped by that.
We don't need any more gurus.
We need to all be figuring our stuff out because if we're all figuring it out independently, we get to learn from each other.
Exactly.
We need a lot of individual nodes of highly capable, high IQ, highly informed individuals.
And big tech is trying to block humans from having access to knowledge.
And I've said that Google is an anti-knowledge search engine.
That's its function now.
To dissociate humanity from knowledge.
That's what censorship is all about.
But what we do here at Brighteon and on our websites and what you're doing with Above Phone is to bypass those sensors so that we can reconnect with knowledge.
That's why I love the idea of putting our LLM on your phones.
If we can figure that out, again, folks, that could be many months away, just to be clear.
Work in progress.
Yeah, work in progress, and it's not guaranteed to work at this point.
But if we could do that, Then that would replace Google for a lot of people.
You just ask your phone, like, oh, I'm at the farmer's market and there's arugula.
And you could ask your phone what nutrients are in arugula that might be useful for anti-inflammatory effects, right?
And boom, it answers you.
Yeah, it can change.
The AI interface is nice for that reason.
Yes.
Really open ways of asking questions and getting responses.
So I'm super excited about that.
And let's make it happen.
Let's definitely make it happen.
And the other thing I want to mention is that because of...
Your phones have a lot of onboard memory.
You know, high RAM. All of human knowledge...
That's ever been printed can fit in a few terabytes.
And index representations of human knowledge can fit in gigabytes.
That's what's amazing about these language models is even in a 7 billion parameter model, which is a very typical size right now, it can encompass knowledge of almost everything that a typical person might ever know in the world in just 7 billion parameters.
And to have that in your pocket.
And it's in your pocket.
And you can use it offline.
Yeah.
Now, okay, comment.
I was just going to say that I love where you're going with is keeping it offline first.
Just with a lot of, you know, I toured, I got to tour Health Ranger today, and those are things you're getting to prepare for the future.
Exactly with these.
These phones can help you navigate across the country, even if there's no internet, right?
Right.
The voice model is completely offline.
Hopefully we'll get to the point where communications are, you know, piggybacking off of a mesh network.
Decentralized, yeah.
Decentralized.
And that's the vision.
So that's what I want to add.
And think about it.
When the cell towers go down or the power grid goes down or whatever, if you have one of your phones that works with our language model, for example, then, again, you said time capsule earlier.
It's something that works offline.
As long as you can charge it, and you can charge it with a small solar panel, then you can have...
A time capsule of human knowledge that never needs to go to the cloud.
That's the thing.
So many people today are connected to the cloud for everything.
I mean, even their personal photos.
People go out and take photos and they upload, especially Apple users for whatever reason.
Apple users...
Does it automatically.
They put everything in the cloud, and they don't think there's anything wrong with that.
There's something about Apple users, in my experience, where they just want to merge with the Borg.
Yeah.
That's why they're so excited about the Vision Pro.
Yes!
Yes!
It made their life easier until you break the rules, and then it's going to get harder.
Right.
But with these Apple Vision Pro goggles that these people are wearing, and then...
You've probably seen videos of them walking down the street and they're like grasping at demons in the air.
You know, it looks like crazy people.
We used to see that on the streets of San Francisco years ago.
Like, yeah, call an insane asylum.
Now they're just Apple users who are manipulating icons in their virtual space.
But it's like, why are you walking around the world doing that?
Just...
Go home.
Is it really necessary?
Are you being more productive?
And also, I mean, I feel sorry for them because, one, I haven't done this yet, but I'm going to go to an Apple store and measure the radiation coming off of one of these.
Oh, yeah.
There's that aspect.
But, two, there's been plenty of studies showing that being distracted, doing multiple things at the same time, Decreases your IQ, right?
So you don't need to be in the world writing an email and watching a movie.
That's scary to me.
And this is something I already suffer from because I did this for over a decade because no one talks about what's the right word for this, like cleanliness with technology.
No one really talks about it.
And it can really mess you up.
So I worry for the children.
I worry for the future.
Oh, yeah.
We've got to figure out the right way to use this stuff.
Well, and it's funny because I've seen demonstrations of the Apple Vision Pro where someone's sitting in their living room and they put on the goggles and then they bring up a nature scene to replace their living room.
And the sounds come in.
It's like a lake and a mountain and the birds and everything.
But they're still, of course, sitting on their couch and And you can imagine how compelling that's going to be to a lot of people when, like, they start putting girlfriends into the scene.
You know, other characters that you would interact with.
And I can see that some people would start to get a pretty crazy God complex if they would have sort of compliant characters all around them.
And they would begin to lose social skills in the real world because in their artificial world, everybody agrees with them.
Everybody follows their commands.
You just point to people, you go row the boat, you know, whatever.
And you start to translate that out in the real world.
It doesn't work.
Don't take the headset off.
You go row the boat.
You're in New York City.
Fuck you.
You row it.
You know what I mean?
Right?
Yeah.
That's not going to work.
Yeah.
And it works perfectly in this greater scheme of putting people in smaller and smaller boxes, doesn't it?
You're not going to want to take the goggles off if you live in a 15-minute city in a tiny box or in a COVID concentration.
This is like Ready Player One.
It's exactly right.
The novel, yeah.
Yeah.
So, how do we pull the plug?
I mean, I don't know if we can go back for some of these people.
Some of the damage has already been done, but at least we can be super aware with ourselves.
And, you know, all of this ties in together.
If you're using an Apple phone, those are the direction the products are going to head, right?
Before, back in the day, we used to have headphone jacks on our phones, right?
We don't have those anymore.
All the companies decided it together.
So even if you're just an Apple user now and you're like, I'm not going to get the Vision Pro anyways, who's to say they're not going to put more and more of that technology in the regular everyday stuff?
Oh, yeah.
iPhone 20.
It just comes with a goggle.
You can't even get anything else.
Wow.
That's a real...
Okay, let me answer a question about your products, your de-Googled phones, that is initially confusing to some people, which is that the hardware is Google hardware.
Yeah.
Like, whoa, how's it a de-Googled phone if it's Google hardware?
Please explain.
Sure, yeah, that's a fair question to ask.
So the Google hardware is a choice made by the developers of the operating system, Graphene OS, and by many other operating systems.
Because these phones are meant to work with Android, and Android is the foundation for these de-Googled operating systems, right?
Google created Android with the help of other open-source developers, and so these de-Googled operating systems are going to work best on Google phones.
These phones are going to have the best support.
Wherever you're at in the world, you can plug a SIM card in and they're going to work.
They're going to have long security updates, right?
Now, that being said, it's not ideal.
If it was up to me, I would have had it on a different phone.
And we're working on different phones, actually, outside of the Google ecosystem.
So keep a lookout for that.
But right now, if you do want the highest quality of de-Google operating system, you're going to be using one of these Google Pixel phones.
Now, let me add, the Pixel phones, Google did a really great job on the hardware, the camera, the CPU, the RAM, everything.
the internal bandwidth.
But what your company is doing is basically capturing a Terminator, mind-wiping the Terminator, reprogramming it to work for humanity.
And that's what you're doing with Google phones.
We're wiping them.
We're flashing them, right?
Yeah.
And so there are no connections being made to Google on the phone.
And you can verify this for yourself.
If you take it at home, you connect your phone to a Wi-Fi network, an access point, and you're monitoring all of the websites or different servers it's connecting to.
Zero.
There's no Google in there whatsoever.
And that's one of the things that is really important.
Now, does this mean that there's no way a really top secret government team couldn't somehow backdoor the radio on your phone and precept it?
Is there a backdoor...
Somewhere deeper in the phone, there's been no proof of that, but we're not making claims to that either way.
I will say there's probably no phone on Earth that you can make that claim for.
So that's just the reality of the situation.
But this is going to get you 80% of the way there, because like I said earlier, there's a difference between mass surveillance and surveillance.
But there's also, user behavior has to be modified.
So a lot of users still, for whatever reason, love to use Gmail.
And I've been on people's cases for years about that.
Like, why are you using Gmail?
So, if you buy a de-Googled phone, folks, and then you launch a browser, and you go to gmail.com, and you sign in to Gmail...
Like, you're an idiot.
I mean, you just basically, you just told Google that this is your phone, and now it's going to track you.
Every website that you go that has, like, Google, you know, scripts running on it, you're now tracked, and it's tied it to your phone.
Maybe it's tied it to the IME, not EI number.
I don't even know how much Google can get off of it, but you should never log in to Google on a de-Googled phone, right?
Right?
I think it's nuanced, right?
Because it depends how did you log into Google.
Did you use the Gmail app?
The Gmail app is going to be tied to the Android identifier of your phone.
Google's like, okay, you have a new phone.
It's this model for sure.
Google Services is running on the phone, so it'll be picking up that information.
If it's a web browser, then they know, okay, this is a mobile phone.
They may not know the device through the user agent.
And you can also protect your IP address using the VPN, which we actually have on the above phone.
It comes with the phone already.
So there is a safer way of doing it.
But yeah, you're totally right.
Why would you do that, right?
Save that for your old phone.
Now, I think it just doesn't limit you.
But I feel like we are trying to create separate lives for ourselves.
Here's the life we want.
Here's the life that we're leaving.
Here's the old phone.
Here's the new phone.
And even within this phone, I think we talked about this a little bit last time, you can create separate containers that give the impression that this phone's connecting from a different location or this phone has different big tech apps on it.
And unfortunately, the grim reality is some people are just tied to Google.
Oh, yeah, they are.
They're on Google's life support.
It's crazy.
I have people in our industry that send me Google spreadsheets all the time.
You just put all your corporate data in a Google spreadsheet and then you sent me a link?
Don't you know Google's reading that?
It's convenient, right?
It's convenient.
But ever since day one, back when Google launched their Gmail, they were the first service to give people two gigabytes of storage.
What's the catch?
What's the pound of flesh?
They get to read every single word of your emails.
So you read all your emails.
Right.
Mark it to you.
It's no different with Google Drive.
There's a mass reliance on it.
I mean, these companies have just been subsidized.
But it seems to me then that people have to make a choice.
Or I guess if they make no choice, then they become default, obedient slaves to the system.
If you just go along with what Google and Apple want you to do, you're just going to be enslaved by the system.
But you can make a choice to escape the matrix.
And you can deliberately start protecting your privacy, protecting your location, protecting your identity.
A de-Googled phone is one of the steps to doing that.
Absolutely.
And there's more steps, and we're trying to take all the steps and let you take that one big step at the same time.
That's really what this ecosystem is about.
With every phone, you get education.
You get a support call with a real live person.
I mean, I'm very blessed to be able to just reach out to my community, all people who believe in the ideas of freedom, and say, hey, Who wants to help all sorts of people get onboarded onto this new technology.
And people have stepped up and have support behind me.
So that feels really good to be able to provide them with work and also to help Joanne, an 80-year-old grandma, start running encrypted communications and send Monero transactions.
That's what really makes my day.
Yeah.
To get that bridge built.
And again, it's that ecosystem.
So you have the education.
You have the support.
You have these privacy services that really protect your internet traffic, give you new ways to communicate, let you run your own businesses, right?
If you have maybe a consulting business or a health practitioner relationship going on, maybe you want to do that on our video conferencing service.
Right.
AboveSuite helps you do that.
AbovePhone has all the apps you need and all the security on your phone to protect you from this mass surveillance.
And as we build this new economy together, this is the thing that's going to give us visibility.
Maybe in the future we're going to have ways to put our customers on the map as well and to have this network of people just sharing resources and ideas.
So...
You're always thinking ahead about the next steps, and that's what I love about you.
This is an ongoing project, all the iterations and improvements that you have.
I know you've got a big announcement coming up in April that we'll share about the data throughput.
Yes.
Yes, about the...
So I'll mention we just did two different rounds of Above Book, which is our privacy laptop with a Linux laptop, for those of you who have already heard.
Same concept, right?
We're taking big tech out of the equation.
No more Windows.
No more Apple computer.
No more AI integrated with your taskbar.
No more someone treating you like you're five years old and be like, oh, hold on.
You don't want to use your computer.
We've got to update it first.
It is craziness.
So we have this above book.
We've gone through two different rounds of it.
Mike actually has one himself.
And in April, we're going to be doing another bigger round.
So look out for that.
I'll probably be back on here.
And maybe that's even something that we could realistically put the large language model on.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
On the laptop, that's a no-brainer.
No problem.
We know that can work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we'll have it ready for you.
Boom.
That's easy.
Let's consider that a done deal.
Done.
Another point I want to get across to people, but by the way, abovephone.com slash brighteon is where you want to go for this.
There's the website, abovephone.com slash brighteon, and you can read about the systems, the phones, and the laptop that another batch is coming out.
But I don't think people realize how much they give up to Google or Apple when they begin to use the full suite of Google apps.
For example, if you're using Google Maps and you're typing in the addresses of where you go and you're giving it your location, then Google, because a normal Google Android phone is always sending metadata back to Google.
So Google's building a map of where you go A whole log file of where you've been, but also then generating patterns of where you tend to go, what your schedule is, what hours you're driving.
They can then determine things like whether you have kids, whether you have a job, whether you're having an affair.
Totally.
Right?
And then they're reading your email on top of that, and they're able to determine when you're writing emails, when you're reading emails, what words and concepts you're using to compose your emails, and then your search browser history.
If you search everything on Google.com, then Google has your whole history of everything you've ever searched for.
People are like, where do I find a doctor to treat this horrible venereal disease?
Really personal stuff.
Right, really personal medical stuff is all on there.
And when you combine all that together, they know more about you than your spouse, typically.
Crazy.
They know you better, you know, people have said they know you better than you know yourself.
Maybe in like a programmatical way.
Only you know you like you.
But, you know, they have more data on you than maybe anyone, right?
That anyone cares to know.
And, Mike, you're spot on with, you know, talking about all these different inputs.
What is the consequence?
Well, for some people, maybe people who want to live normal lives, there isn't a consequence, right?
They can continue to do what they do.
But really, it's not about...
It's not about trying to lock down everything in our life.
We do need transparency and openness just to make connections.
It's not about that.
It's about resisting the illegal, unlawful surveillance and control from these companies that are working hand-in-hand with intelligence agencies and governments.
It's about saying, no, we're not going to consent to that.
And that's really the important thing, to stop them.
And also understanding how it can be weaponized against you, even though you're perfectly innocent.
So for example, you might be stopping at a shop in a small town somewhere, and then maybe a block away somebody got murdered.
And then you can be caught up in a geofencing warrant because you happen to be at a similar location at the same time.
Yes, talk about it.
Sure, yeah.
So this is Google's Sensor Vault database, which had, I believe it was like 40 billion data points of location data from what Mike was saying.
If you're using Google Maps, whether you're on an iPhone, whether you're on a Google phone, you're being added to that database.
And so this man named Jorge, he got caught up in a sensor vault warrant, whereas this is police investigators' shortcut.
They can pick a date and a time, and they can have all the phones that pop up in that area, and they can further ask for more information about those phones.
They can get the identities to those people.
And these central vault warrants got so popular, they were consisting of, I think it was several thousand warrants a year.
And up to a quarter of the warrants that Google was getting became central vault warrants or geofence warrants.
And so Google actually backtracked.
There was so much backlash and public awareness of this, they made some updates to Google Maps saying, by default, your location will stay on your phone.
I don't necessarily believe them, and I don't think there's a way to say it.
No, why would we believe Google?
Why would you believe them, right?
And I think maybe these programs are just getting more secretive, like kind of the DEA program we talked about last time, where they actually tried to hide the existence of it, so if you're caught up in it, you have no idea how they got that information.
The only way to do it for real is to cut them out, is to make sure you're making zero connections to them.
You can't take them out their word.
Right.
Or given what we know about Google's racial bias now...
They might have a policy where all your data stays on your phone unless you're white.
If we think you're white and we know that from your search history, you search for white things.
Let's go play golf today or whatever.
Your carbon credits go up if you're white.
No, I think your carbon credits get destroyed if you're white.
They're punishing whites now.
You're not supposed to be white.
It's crazy, man.
It's hard to know who the establishment wants us to hate at any given moment also.
There's also so much hatred that's being pushed.
That's a separate topic.
But you notice that just in the lives that you and I have lived, at one time or another, we were supposed to hate either Muslims at one time, and then you're supposed to hate Trump supporters.
Now you're supposed to hate white people.
Who knows next?
Maybe you're supposed to hate black people.
I mean, it's just like it's this crazy psychological game.
And AI is really good at playing it.
Oh, yeah.
At the end of the day, we're all one people.
Exactly.
Let's not forget that.
And America is a beautiful place where we can all come together, and we have come together.
So why are we...
I mean, it's all divide and conquer.
Yeah, that's why, I mean, we're on Team Humanity, right?
I mean, we love life and the miracles of life, the divinity of life, consciousness, creativity, individuality.
And these are all the things that are under threat from technology, replacing what makes us human, replacing cognition as well.
Absolutely.
This is just calling it like it is.
Google's AI is racist.
There's no way around that.
We shouldn't be singling out one race and limiting their contributions to society or advancement or history or downplaying that.
Because we've already done that with so many races.
We can stop.
And this is why building decentralized AI is going to be so important, as Mike, that you're doing.
And hopefully we'll collaborate and we'll create our own branch of this.
Absolutely.
So that you don't have to rely on these tools anymore.
And you can have pictures that are actually accurate.
Founding fathers that aren't black women or...
Or whatever diversity inclusion they need to put in there.
Maybe we'll work on an open source AI image generator or something.
That would be cool.
That would be fun.
But our language model, I say we're training it on material that's rooted in reality.
That's our goal.
We want a language model that reflects the real world because we want people to live in the real world and grow their own food and get off-grid as much as possible.
And so you need a knowledge base that's rooted in that reality so that you can ask it practical questions about the real world.
What should the pH of my soil be to grow blueberries, let's say?
Yeah.
Right?
Maybe the sensor plugs in directly to the phone, and so you can actually test it, right?
There's so many directions we can go with it.
Yeah, totally.
All right, well, Ramiro, I love what you're doing, and your company's already helped many of our viewers with getting transitioned into this technology.
And for anybody who's concerned out there, if you're intimidated by this, don't worry.
The Above Phone company will walk you through this process.
You've helped so many people with that.
Absolutely.
I can say we're getting pretty good at it.
With your phone, this is all free.
You don't need to pay for anything extra.
One, we're making a commitment to give you email and chat support for the lifetime of the phone.
For the lifetime you're using the phone, you have that.
You have someone to talk to.
With every phone, you get 45 minutes of FaceTime with a real person like myself, like other support engineers who care about this mission, who care about freedom, and we'll help you.
We'll get your old phone and we'll bring your above phone in and we'll help you transfer all that important energy, that knowledge, that data, whatever is important to your life.
We'll help you bring it over and we'll teach you how to use the phone.
And you're off to the races.
And then we also have a video course.
Maybe some of you are the type that don't want a setup call.
You want to figure it out yourself.
No problem.
We've got written guides and we just finished a new video course.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I haven't seen that.
Well, we'll check it out.
It's actually on our new university platform, above.university.
So that's for above phone customers only.
And then we also have free educational resources as well on a knowledge base.
So it's really about getting the information out there.
I just want to mention about the bundle.
So we've got this Brydian Edition phone.
Earlier we were talking about headsets and the sensors they're putting in their headsets.
And we also realized, hey, we don't really have a good headset to use with this phone.
So the Brydian Edition bundle, you're going to be able to get your above phone from all of our best models.
And it's going to come with all the gear you need.
Case and screen protector.
Additional storage drive, which makes it really easy.
It's a really cool drive that lets you plug it into your phone.
Look, one, two, three.
I agree.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
You plug it into the phone, you can switch it to your computer, right?
You become your own cloud.
You become your own cloud.
You own your data again.
So you get the USB drive, you get the Ethernet adapter, because I know Mike is one of the few people that cares about electromagnetic radiation.
At my house at home, I'm actually using, when I'm using the phone in bed or something, I have it connected with the Ethernet cord.
Zero.
No Wi-Fi.
And that's how we got to live, right?
If you have maybe a child who uses a phone, I mean, their brains, their skulls are a lot thinner.
There's a lot more water content in their head.
You know, the radiation is even more powerful for them.
So having that Ethernet adapter with the phone is really important as well.
And then lastly, we've got the headphones.
So you get all of this in the Bryden Edition phone package, and we're really excited to do this.
I think this is the first package we've done at the scale.
And yeah, we'll push it out there and let us know what you think.
Let me know if you want to see that AI model as well.
Okay, great.
And also, on your website, there are different phones that people can choose from.
Indeed.
Different price levels, different sizes, different size screens.
Yes, so I think for this promotion, we're going to be running our latest phones, which are going to be the Pixel 7s and Pixel 8s.
This is the 8 Pro, which is one of the newest phones, and it's just got a really amazing camera in it, really good battery life.
We've improved a lot of different things for this model.
So if you can even see that.
Yeah, we can see it.
Yeah, nice.
So yeah, I really like this.
I finally upgraded myself to a Pixel 8 Pro, and it's got a really nice front and rear camera, really great battery, and the best performance in the class.
So all of our phones are fairly new.
Of course, these 8 Pros are brand new.
Some of the other phones are a year or two old.
So they're very comparable.
But you've got a lot of different choices out there.
Check out the specifications.
And if you have any questions about picking out a phone, use the chat button in the right bottom-hand corner.
You're talking to a real person.
That's not AI. Not yet.
Maybe one day.
Maybe not, though.
Maybe you'll use the Brighteon AI language model to answer questions about the phone.
We can train it on your training material.
Let's do that.
Let's see how it does.
It's about vitamins and supplements.
I'm like, no, I just need a phone.
Yeah, like, how do I download APK files?
Well, first you take vitamin C and then get some zinc.
All right, I feel really healthy now.
Yeah, first get healthy, go have some superfoods, come back, and then do the install.
That'd be my language model.
I'm so ready for it.
Yeah, totally.
All right.
Yeah.
And so, yep, check out the phones.
We'll have this.
This is going to be a time-limited offer.
We'll have the details on the landing page when you go.
It'll be specially themed for Byteon and have all the details there.
So make sure to take advantage of the offer while it's around.
The Byteon Edition phones are going to be on, just ongoing, and Mike and I will update it as there's new updates.
But to take advantage of this discount, you want to make sure to get it within the time frames.
So do that and sign up to our mailing list.
There's a little segment right there.
And there's no special code that they need for the discount.
They just ask for the Brighteon edition.
There will be a code they need for the discount.
Oh, there is a code.
There will be a code, and I'll make sure to send that to you.
Oh, well, we need to show the code.
You need to show the code?
Yeah.
No, but we can put it in.
We'll put it in.
We'll add it in.
Okay, you send me the code.
We'll put it in the edit.
People can see the code.
Right on.
Okay.
You should make the code Brighteon.
It is going to be Brighteon.
I keep saying it, Ian.
Brighteon.
Brighteon.
That's going to be the code?
It's going to be either...
It's going to be Brighteon 100.
Brighteon 100.
So Brighteon 100.
And that's for $100 off, folks.
Okay.
Well, that's easy to remember.
Brighteon 100.
I could have just said it.
Yeah.
What happens if they type in Brighteon 200?
Do they get 200?
Don't try it.
We're watching out.
Or Brighteon 50 if you only want the $50 discount.
That'll be the regular discount.
If you don't take advantage of it within the promotion.
Okay.
Got it.
All right.
I love the fact that you have a sense of humor, Romero, and we can joke around here.
It's a clown world, brother.
It is a clown world, man.
And just to get back to what we call normal, you have to go through many steps now to not be spied on, to not be centered, to not be enslaved in this system.
They've built a global prison for humanity, and tech is the construct of the prison.
We're living in the Matrix.
Absolutely.
This is just a keychain, y'all.
It happens to be a really convenient keychain of a bunch of these keys that open the gates.
So I invite you to take the keys and open it.
Use it for yourself.
I would say that you can replace your phone with this.
Oh, yeah.
I have.
Totally.
But then again, I don't use Uber and Airbnb and Google Maps.
You've got the helicopters.
Stuff like that.
I don't use any of that stuff.
Right.
And you could still use that stuff, too.
And there's small adaptations you might have to make.
If you're willing to stop playing Candy Crush, actually, you can play Candy Crush, but you can't play 3D games, if you're willing to let go of that, that's pretty much one of the only things.
Really?
3D games?
3D games.
Graphic-intensive games.
I don't think our audience cares about 3D games.
Way beyond playing games.
So then in that case, this phone can do everything your old phone can do and more and more.
Let's be better than big tech.
Definitely.
All right.
Well said.
Thank you, Ramiro.
It's great to have you here today.
Appreciate you coming in and hope to have you back with some additional updates.
And I tell you what, when we get the language model working on the phones...
Let's ask you back in to demo that.
Let's do that.
Wouldn't it be cool if we did the voice to text, back to voice, and we could hold it up to the microphone and ask it questions?
Yeah, we could have like a live studio audience calling in and let's see what the AI says.
That would be wild.
Yeah.
We should try that.
We've got to do that.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
So folks, the website is abovephone.com slash Brighteon.
And apparently the discount code for this is Brighteon 100.
And this is one of the key steps to de-Googling your life.
And you do need to de-Google your life.
Stop using Google search engines, stop using Google AI, stop using Google phones, and also stop using iPhones, by the way, because they're spying on you, too.
Get to a state where you can protect your privacy, and you are in control of your data and your life, and it can't be weaponized against you.
So that's the solution right there.
Alright, thank you for watching today.
We appreciate you, appreciate your support, and we appreciate you supporting our sponsors like AbovePhone.com.
I'm Mike Adams here with BrightTown.com, of course, and also Decentralized TV. Thank you for watching today, and thank you for de-googling your life.
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Just go there and search for Spring Detox Support Bundle, and you'll see this bundle right here available at this special price, which is a significant discount off of purchasing these separately.
We also have two other bundles available at healthrangerstore.com.
The first is a nutrients blend bundle here that has the microalgae superfood blend here along with our beet juice, again, all organic and all laboratory tested, along with our garden harvest blend.
So this is a combination of fruits and vegetables loaded with phytonutrition plus the microalgae that, again, available at a special price for A lot less expensive than buying them separately.
And then we have one more bundle here, which is called the Super Greens Bundle.
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Those three together, absolutely loaded with phytonutrition.
Again, non-GMO, certified USDA organic plus laboratory tested on top of that.
Plus, of course, we do microbiology testing on all these products as well.
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So thank you for your support at HealthRangerStore.com.
Take advantage of these spring detox bundles.
They're good only while supplies last or through the end of March 2024.
And right now we've got supply of all of these.
I don't know how long it will last.
The supply chain is always a little dicey from time to time.
At the moment, we're looking pretty good.
So hopefully you can get your hands on these or as much as you need.
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