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	welcome
	everybody to today's episode of decentralized tv a special episode here hosted on brighton.com the platform that my company built so that we can engage in free speech and And today we have an incredible guest who will help demonstrate the power of free speech and free thinking.
	But first, let me introduce my co-host, Todd Pitner.
	Welcome, Todd, to the show today.
	Are you looking forward to this one or what?
	Thank you.
	I thought you were talking about me when you were talking about an incredible...
	But I guess, as co-host, I'm not the guest.
	You're an incredible co-host, but we have an incredible guest on top of the co-host.
	Yes, we do.
	I am very much looking forward to today, and I think everybody will click their heels and not realize, wow, an hour just went by.
	Yeah, probably so.
	Well, let's go ahead and bring him in right now.
	It is Larry Johnson, a former CIA analyst, worked with the State Department, worked with Special Forces.
	Welcome to the show, sir.
	It's an honor to have you on today.
	Thank you for having me.
	Pleased to be here.
	Well, we are happy to have you on.
	And I just want to say for the record here, you know, we all are Americans.
	We love America.
	We want our country to succeed with its original founding vision.
	You know, we want freedom and liberty and a justice system that works.
	And yet what you have spoken about so much in many of your interviews and what our audience is concerned about, since this is about decentralization, You've commented on a very strong centralization of power into the hands of people who are incompetent and corrupt, and they're harming our country, which means we're all harmed.
	Can you give us a 50,000-foot view of where you think we are in history right now with America?
	Let me tell you where I come from.
	I have 28 ancestors that fought in the American Revolution in 1776.
	One of them, my uncle, Charles Thompson, Was the Secretary of the Continental Congress.
	He had been an apprentice to Benjamin Franklin.
	And he held the Declaration of Independence in his possession until the U.S. government was really fully stood up and functioning in 1798.
	So, my family's got some skin in this game.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay?
	We go back into the 17th century.
	So I think if you're here for more than 400 years, you get to be a Native American.
	So I'm a Native American.
	Good point.
	And what I've watched unfold is with this attempt to concentrate power in Washington, D.C., it has really crossed party lines.
	I don't even like the terms left and right anymore.
	The terms Republican and Democrat are particularly meaningless.
	I boil it down to this very, very simple.
	The Declaration of Independence stated that all men are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, and those rights are gifts from God.
	And therefore, it's not granted to you by government.
	It's your natural-born right.
	And everyone, every living man, woman, child has that right.
	And so what I look at is, do we have a government right?
	intent on protecting those rights or violating those rights.
	And I would argue right now we're in an era where we've got a government that's violating those rights at will.
	And it's time to push back.
	It's a very dangerous situation.
	Thank you for that introduction.
	We have a lot of questions for you, both Todd and I, but one of the things I want to start with is, from what you just mentioned, Larry, the corruption leads to incompetence, and the incompetence is projected around the world where we end up in War situations, even provoking Russia right now, which seems to be a very dangerous game of nuclear chicken, we might say.
	And yet, our side, the current people in charge, vastly overestimate the strength of our position.
	Would you agree or disagree with that?
	Oh, I absolutely agree.
	In fact, we're like the guy who maybe thought he was a star athlete in high school, but we're now 30 years later.
	70 pounds heavier.
	Haven't been exercising much.
	Donuts are like our favorite food.
	And we decide we're going to go down to a nearby bar and get into a bar fight.
	Now, we don't know who owns the bar.
	We don't know who's inside the bar.
	And we don't realize that the bar owner and the people inside the bar are all related.
	So does it make sense to go in there and pick that kind of fight?
	Well, absolutely not.
	Because you're going to get thumped.
	And so when we look at what's happened to the United States, to the military, you know, I've heard people like President Trump say, oh, we've got the greatest military, the strongest military in the world.
	No, we don't.
	And we need to stop kidding ourselves.
	We've got the most expensive military in the world.
	And we have a military that is armed and equipped, not according to a national strategic plan.
	You know, let's say, for example, you decided that, hey, I'm going to build me a cabin in the mountains of Montana.
	So what kind of vehicle do I need to plan to live out there?
	Oh, I know.
	I'm going to get a Lamborghini.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	Yeah, you're going to drive over four-wheel drive territory in a Lamborghini that sits about six inches off the ground.
	So, you know, that would be stupid.
	But that's exactly what we're doing in terms of how we determine what to staff and put in the U.S. military.
	So right now we're spending upwards of $12 billion building aircraft carriers that frankly are as outmoded as the U.S. cavalry was going into World War II. Yeah, extraordinary.
	And the Red Sea situation with the Hooties has really demonstrated that.
	Look, you know, here's the Houthis with, you know, the Yemenis, to be more precise, with, you know, I think the term that's been described in them as a, quote, shithole country.
	They are nowhere near anywhere of first world military power.
	And yet they've demonstrated what are the limits of U.S. military power.
	We're running in airstrikes day after day.
	Well, the problem is we don't have magic eyes.
	And they're using mobile missile systems to keep moving.
	And so they keep moving.
	They keep shooting up ships.
	They keep shooting down our Predator drones.
	These Predator drones run $30 million, $38 million a pop.
	The Houthis are shooting them down with missile technology that maybe costs $500,000.
	You know, do the math!
	That's an economic downer for us.
	Exactly.
	And this goes back to the corruption part, what you're talking about.
	And I've got first-hand knowledge of this.
	When I was in Bethesda, Maryland, my next-door neighbor was the number one defense lobbyist in town.
	His company had all the, you know, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, all signed up.
	And the way the game's played is his job was to go get from them money.
	They would fund him.
	Then every month he had to arrange at least one or two fundraising dinners a week.
	And those fundraising dinners would be for various key members of Congress, Republicans and Democrats alike, who would gather.
	And lo and behold, the executives from Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics and Raytheon and BAE Systems and SAIC, they all show up and put in their contributions to that member of Congress.
	And then when it comes to appropriation time, boy, that member of Congress votes thumbs up.
	We're going to send the money to you.
	So, you know, it's really that corrupt circle that's going around.
	And when they decide on weapons systems, again, it's not based upon a plan that says, okay, look, We are going to be facing the increased likelihood of drone and missile technology.
	So the very last thing we want to have are aircraft carriers who are extremely vulnerable to hypersonic missiles, which the Russians and Chinese happen to have.
	You know, ample supply of, and we don't have, because we haven't developed it yet.
	We failed in our development efforts.
	Right.
	So, we end up spending, what is it, 70-plus million dollars on F-35 fighters, and then, you know, when you start getting into, they become so prohibitively expensive, That you then get really worried about, oh gosh, can we even deploy it here or could it get shot down?
	So, I mean, it's ridiculous.
	And so we're right now, if we had to go toe-to-toe with the Russians, they would beat us and beat us badly.
	I think your assessment is spot on.
	Todd, I know you've got a series of questions you want to lead off with.
	Go for it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Larry, for being here.
	Larry Johnson, sonar21.com.
	Before I get to the big question that I'd like to ask, which is how big is the risk of a third world war, I'd like to talk about Operation Extermination.
	I just read Right before we got on this, JapanToday.com, Trump endorses the Gaza cost.
	I see Trump backs Israel's war in Gaza.
	He was asked if he supported Israel and their war in Gaza.
	And he said yes, that he was in Israel's camp.
	And he stated this, which just stunned me.
	You've got to finish the problem.
	Oh my gosh.
	That's what he said.
	Yeah, I look at this and I'm like, first, you know, two-part question.
	Is combating alleged terrorism a valid excuse, Larry, to commit genocide?
	That's question one.
	The second question, I'll ask it now, is what's really going on in Gaza?
	Because I can't reconcile it.
	I just cannot reconcile it.
	Yeah, we've always used the threat of terrorism as an excuse to commit crimes.
	We saw that in the so-called war on terror in the aftermath of 9-11, where they decided it was a good thing.
	The CIA had no training or experience.
	They didn't train any of their case officers in interrogation.
	And naturally so, because what the role of a CIA case officer, someone who goes overseas to recruit spies, it's like a seduction process, you know, trying to get a date with a man or a woman, you know, depending on, you know, who you're after.
	So they went outside and they started doing engaging in torture.
	And we justified using the torture because, well, Kiefer Sutherland did it on 24, and Vince Flynn wrote about it in his books.
	I just put a piece up last night that I was friends with Vince until he became so famous that he got rid of his old friends.
	But early on in one of his early books, he credited me as being, quote, I want you as my technical advisor when they make this book into a movie.
	And yet, you know, Vince went down this rabbit hole of, well, you know, the end justifies the means.
	No, it doesn't.
	You know, that's point number one, because once you lower yourself to behaving like the terrorists, then you become the very thing which you claim that you're trying to stop.
	And, you know, I've had experience training Israeli police officers, and this goes back in, say, probably 2002.
	And they were in Washington, D.C. for a senior crisis management seminar.
	And I asked them at the time, I said, what was Israel's most effective counterterrorism operation?
	And most of them said, oh, it was on Tevi.
	And I said, no, you're wrong.
	And they looked at me and they said, well, what do you think it is?
	I said, it was the capture of Adolf Eichmann Who played a key role in the Holocaust in exterminating over 450,000 Jews in Hungary, sending them to Auschwitz.
	I said, because what you guys did is you captured him, but then you put him on trial.
	You subjected him to Israeli law.
	You gave him the presumption of innocence.
	You allowed him to have defense counsel.
	You allowed him to confront the witnesses.
	But in the end, he was found guilty.
	But you treated him fairly.
	You showed that you were not like the Nazis.
	You showed that you were different, that you abided by a rule of law.
	Now, we've lived long enough, and this brings me to the second part of your question, that Israel has forgotten those roots.
	It's now behaving exactly like the Nazis.
	It is doing the same sort of extermination and genocide that That the Nazis used.
	They haven't gotten to gas chambers yet, but Gaza itself was one big concentration camp, or at least a ghetto.
	They said, oh, that's not fair.
	Oh, really?
	So go back and look at the Warsaw Ghetto where the Jews were incarcerated, starting, I think, in 1940.
	They could not enter or leave at will.
	They were guarded by Nazi guards at every entrance to it.
	Food that entered into the facility was controlled.
	Just like Gaza.
	Just like Gaza.
	No citizen of Gaza can freely leave or enter at will.
	Israel guards the borders, and now they're controlling the arrival of food and humanitarian aid.
	The weaponization of food scarcity, that's a weapon of mass destruction, you could say, targeting the civilian population.
	Clearly it's a violation of numerous international treaties, if not just moral code.
	We don't even get to treat prisoners of war that way.
	Right.
	You know, the Geneva Convention requires that with combatants, you know, you've got to make sure they have adequate food and that they're treated well.
	And so what we've witnessed is, and this is the other reason I claim that Israel now is acting like Nazis.
	The essence of the Nazi philosophy, and even the fascist philosophy, is that It assumes that there is one race or one group of people that are superior to others.
	So they don't subscribe to the belief that all men Women, children are created equal by God.
	They enter a system where there are some who are more equal than others.
	And therefore, as long as the others are untermensch, that they're less than human, you can do whatever you want to them.
	You can kill them.
	You can rape them.
	You can torture them.
	You can starve them to death.
	It doesn't matter because they're not the same as you.
	They're not entitled to the same rights as you.
	Well, you're allowed to use the term Zionism on this show, by the way.
	We don't have to censor ourselves.
	But, Todd, I'm really glad you brought that up from Trump.
	I was not aware of that quote.
	Now, I voted for Trump just a couple of days ago here in the primaries in Texas because I've been very public about this.
	I don't agree with everything Trump's doing, but the alternatives are far worse.
	And, Larry, my question to you is...
	I think many Americans believe that the CIA, which had run a lot of color revolutions and so on in other countries around the world, was heavily involved in the rigging of the 2020 election.
	Whether or not you agree with that assessment, do you think that the CIA or other intelligence agencies will be involved in trying to rig this year's election in order to stop Trump?
	Well, in fact, I was one of the first ones to blow the whistle on the CIA's involvement in the 2016 election in particular.
	In fact, Matt Taibbi recently wrote a piece with Michael Schellenberger, and they credited me with having been one of the first ones out there with that story.
	Because starting in 2015, John Brennan, who was then the head of the CIA, put together a task force At the Central Intelligence Agency, and what a task force is, is where you bring together analysts, operations personnel, admin personnel, the science and technology personnel, as well as people from other agencies, from the FBI, from the Department of Defense, from the Department of State.
	You bring them together to work on a focused task.
	The task started off as they were collecting intelligence on all the candidates that were running against Hillary Clinton, both Republican and Democrat.
	So they were collecting on Bernie Sanders.
	They were collecting on Ted Cruz.
	They were collecting on Marco Rubio.
	They were collecting on Donald Trump.
	And that started in the summer of 2015.
	Because remember, in the summer of 2015, it wasn't clear yet who the Republican nominee would be.
	That's right.
	As time progressed, and they got into, say, December, there is one of the WikiLeaks cables that came out from the Hillary Clinton emails.
	It was an exchange between John Podesta, the campaign chairman, and a guy named Budowski.
	And Mr.
	Bedowski, Brent Bedowski is his name, and he was a Democratic operative.
	And they were talking about how what they needed to do with Donald Trump was paint him as with a bromance with Vladimir Putin.
	They were going they're going to use the Russia strategy to discredit Trump.
	They made that decision in December and CIA was rapidly on board with it.
	CIA was working with British intelligence.
	British intelligence was actively involved in identifying George Papadopoulos, for example, who was then targeted and used as you know, he was set up.
	And they used him to try to create evidence to prove the lie that Donald Trump was under the control or being influenced by the Russians, by Vladimir Putin.
	or that the Russians were interfering in the election.
	The ones who interfered in the election were British intelligence, US intelligence, including both the CIA and the FBI. And I don't think they're done at all.
	I think they remain active in trying to sabotage Donald Trump.
	But Larry, why?
	I mean, is the CIA an overtly corrupt arm of the government?
	Are there any decent people left?
	Or is leadership just in it for the brown paper bag, lollipops, and fancy pants?
	Yeah.
	Well, there are still good people of integrity at the CIA, but they're not running the place.
	That's number one.
	And the reason Trump is a threat, I agree with what you were saying earlier about criticizing his policy towards Israel, but he's not alone in that.
	That's sort of a bipartisan failure in this country.
	Both Republicans and Democrats are beholden to the Israeli Political Action Committee.
	So there's this heavy support for the Zionist movement among the upper echelon of both the Democrat and Republican parties.
	But what Trump represents is a threat to the deep state, to the corruption, to this revolving door that goes on where people that go into one, you know, where this Department of Defense or CIA, they get out, they go, they work maybe up on the hill.
	They then work with defense contractors.
	And a lot of money is being made.
	I just have to insert myself here.
	Is it or is it just kabuki theater?
	Because when President Trump was in his first term, and I don't believe his first term didn't result in a second term, but it was like he was an empty suit.
	I mean, I... There were all of these things, whether it's lock her up or in his position on the vaccines and everything.
	I feel sometimes when people start talking about his support of the Gaza cost right now and giving him kind of a pass that, oh, well, that's kind of the same, the leadership of both sides.
	At what point in time do we stop and say, no, this is wrong?
	Well, he was naive.
	He was naive when he started.
	In fact, a good friend of mine, he held a job that was very sensitive in the intelligence community, which meant that he had regular contact with not only Trump, he'd had contact previously with Obama and before that, George W. Bush.
	And he told Trump at the start of his term that, hey, You need to get rid of these people, particularly at the top of the CIA and the Director of National Intelligence.
	And Trump just said, no, no, I've got this under control.
	Well, two years later, Trump saw him at a Christmas party at the White House and went over to him and said, I should have listened to you.
	You were right.
	So...
	Trump was naive.
	He thought, you know, hey, I made all these deals with real estate, people in New York, mobsters, I can handle these guys.
	This is like organized crime on a different scale.
	And it requires, and that's why they view Trump as a threat.
	Because Trump's not one that's going to come to Washington, D.C. and get wealthy.
	He started off wealthy.
	So he doesn't need to make his money As Joe Biden has, as Barack Obama has, as George W. Bush has, as Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have.
	And it's not just them.
	Nancy Pelosi.
	Go down the list.
	Mitch McConnell.
	Zelensky.
	Yeah, it's, you know, it would be unfair to call it a whorehouse.
	Because at least at a house of ill repute, you at least pay your money and get satisfaction.
	Here in Washington, D.C., you pay your money and just get screwed.
	Larry, I want to shift gears here and ask you about this, and to my producers, run my screen here, if you would, please, for a moment, because what I'm showing here is now, in New York City, Governor Hochul, of course, has deployed 1,000 troops, a combination of National Guard and, I think, state troopers and others, that are now, I mean, you've got armed troops.
	You know, camo-wearing military troops and law enforcement officers in the subways, blatantly violating Fourth Amendment rights of the citizens, just saying, hey, we want to search your bags.
	And for the most part, those citizens are saying, sure, here, search my bags, make me feel safe.
	How crazy is that?
	What's your take on what the hell is going on in New York City that requires a thousand troops in the subway right now?
	Well, you've had a complete loss of control.
	But that loss of control has been caused by people like Alvin Bragg.
	And by the own laws that they passed, where basically they got rid of bail.
	And so the policies that Rudy Giuliani enacted back in 1999 going into 2000-2001, where they got zero tolerance.
	So if you were jumping the toll at the subway, you got arrested and incarcerated.
	People, they could stop and search people.
	They did violate the Fourth Amendment, but they caught a lot of drugs and guns, got them off the streets.
	So New York City actually went through quite a renaissance where it was not this filthy, dirty place, dangerous.
	Well, it's gotten dirty, dangerous, and filthy again.
	And then it's all because of the lack of leadership, both by the current mayor and the previous mayor and the previous governor of the Cuomo and now the Hochul.
	So, you know, finally things have gotten so bad that when they have to activate the National Guard...
	You know, I can understand New Yorkers being happy to see them because, you know, you've got people being pushed under subway trains and robbed and assaulted and attacked.
	I mean, it happens even if the two cops a few weeks ago were, you know, pummeled by a group of Venezuelan immigrants.
	You know, they got ganged up on.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Go ahead, Todd.
	I was going to say, isn't this all controlled demolition, though?
	I mean, the leadership of this country right now and of the major cities are nothing but a bunch of, I mean, communists.
	Yeah, well, again, I'm not sure what we mean anymore when we call people communists.
	What I look at is, do they enforce the laws or not?
	Do they enforce the laws fairly or not?
	Do they hold people accountable for their actions?
	You know, if that's anti-communism, then I'm all in favor of that.
	And if doing the opposite of that is communism, I'm opposed to that.
	So what we've had is this, and again, I don't like to necessarily label it as communists, because we've seen it on both sides of the political aisle, with both a Republican and a Democrat, not holding people accountable.
	Go back to 9-11, 2001.
	Who in the George W. Bush administration was held accountable for that intelligence failure?
	Who?
	Nobody.
	They gave excuses.
	They gave everybody a pass.
	Some of them got promoted.
	And then you get the failures in judgment of, oh yeah, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
	That didn't exist.
	But, you know, we got over 4,000 American boys and girls killed in a fruitless, feckless adventure there.
	And then look at the latest with what's happened to Ukraine.
	Nobody in the intelligence community stood up and provided the president or anybody or any member of Congress with any intelligence to suggest that, hey, putting sanctions on Russia is a bad idea, Because Russia controls so many natural resources, it's not going to affect them.
	And in fact, it's going to probably incentivize Russia to stop using the U.S. dollar and working with other countries to stop using the U.S. dollar that it may actually hurt us a lot more than it's going to hurt Russia.
	That's exactly what happened.
	I'm so glad you brought that up.
	And it has utterly obliterated the economy of Germany.
	Not to mention the rest of Western Europe.
	And I almost laughed the other day when I saw a headline that some leader in the EU wants to put the EU on a wartime economy track.
	Now, I'm like, with what energy?
	You don't have energy.
	You can't build tanks.
	Are you kidding yourself?
	Remember, Germany's being run by the Green Party with this whole climate change nonsense.
	Exactly.
	Another scam.
	That'll end well.
	Yeah, we live in an era of lies.
	You know, we're told the lies about, oh, if we don't stop using petroleum, that the world's going to end in eight years and all the oceanfront properties owned by the Clintons and the Obamas are going to get swallowed up by the sea, which is why they're spending millions of dollars to build oceanfront properties, okay?
	Yeah.
	So you stick with that.
	Oh, you know what?
	Men can get pregnant and can breastfeed.
	And so we're going to, you know, just because you say you're a potato, you get to be a potato.
	And not only can men get pregnant, Larry, but Ukraine has just announced they're going to have another counteroffensive that's going to work this time.
	They're really going to kick Russia's butt.
	Yeah, don't hold your breath on that.
	Hey, Larry, I have a really important question.
	This was based upon listening to you during another interview.
	But speaking of Zelensky, how tall would a Ukrainian president have to be to join NATO, Larry?
	How what?
	How tall?
	It's like six flags over Texas.
	You've got to be this high to get on this ride.
	I think the idea ought to be that Macron and Zelensky can stand on each other's shoulders.
	There you go.
	Maybe reach the height requirement.
	It is remarkable.
	We've got so many people in the administration, like the Victoria Nuland, thankfully she's on her way out, Tony Blinken, and then many of the other neocons.
	One of the reasons they always identify Russia as the bad guy is because of Russia's imperial history of being anti-Semitic and persecuting Jews and the pogroms.
	And then when you ask, hey, so where were your role at this from?
	So Anthony Blinken's great-grandfather, who was a victim of these pogroms, where was he from?
	Just outside of Kiev.
	That's Ukraine.
	That's not Russia.
	And so what you find is that this concentration of anti-Semitic activity And prosecution of Jews took place in what we call present-day Ukraine.
	Now, Ukraine didn't begin to exist as a country on a map until after 1904.
	But the point is that now we're back in a country that is largely inspired by neo-Nazi beliefs.
	And people just try to pretend that, oh, they can't be Nazi.
	They've got a Jew as a president.
	Well, Sorry, go back and look at what the Nazis did in World War II. They set up in all of the ghettos Judenrat.
	The Judenrat were governing councils headed by the local, by Jews, by prominent Jews.
	And many of them were corrupt.
	Many of them colluded with the Nazis and all of them wound up dead in the gas chambers in Auschwitz.
	You know, they thought they could buy their way out and it turned out they couldn't.
	So, you know, here's Volodymyr Zelenskyy Who grew up speaking Russian, not Ukrainian, claiming now to be the ultra-Ukrainian, and they can't be Nazis because he's Jewish.
	Well, excuse me, that's exactly what's going on in Ukraine.
	And the refusal to admit that is just shameful.
	But it's part of this whole Truman Show reality that the West is living under, and they only get their information from their own bubble, so the delusions are reinforced.
	But I want to ask you about Victoria Nuland because, of course, she announced her resignation That is a monumental event in the relations between Europe and the United States as well as Russia and the United States.
	I want to ask your assessment of why she resigned.
	I mean, it was out of the blue.
	It was a surprise as far as any of us know, but was it tied to the fact that the German audio leaked that there was going to be a German missile attack on the Crimean Bridge?
	Is there any indication that that was one of Newland's nasty surprises, or is that unrelated?
	I think it's unrelated.
	Let's understand who she was.
	So she was a career Foreign Service officer.
	That means she took the Foreign Service exam, passed, and was accepted in, and then she rose through the ranks pretty quickly.
	She became Chief of Staff to Strobe Talbot.
	I think he was at one point Deputy Secretary of State or maybe in charge of what they call the Undersecretary for Political Affairs.
	So ultimately, she came back into the Biden administration as the Undersecretary for Political Affairs.
	From the standpoint of a Foreign Service officer, there are only two jobs at State Department ultimately worth having.
	Well, really three.
	Either to be called ambassador.
	Once you get that title, you've got that for life.
	Or to be Secretary of State, or to be the Under Secretary for Political Affairs.
	The reason for that is the Under Secretary for Political Affairs sits atop So that means the Latin America section, the section that deals with Africa, the section that deals with Europe, the section that deals with the Middle East, the section that deals with Southeast Asia and Southwest Asia, and then with Russia.
	All of them report to that undersecretary.
	Very powerful position, because that person then determines which cables goes out.
	What's the policy positions?
	What are our top four or five priorities?
	So she was setting that.
	They made her acting deputy secretary.
	And I've heard some speculate that, oh, because she wasn't going to get full deputy secretary, that's why she left?
	Yeah.
	Deputy Secretary is like being Vice President.
	Someone, I think it was a Garner who described it as it was like a cup of warm spit, or maybe that was Harry Truman.
	It's not a great job to have, but the Undersecretary for Political Affairs, important job.
	I think part of what's going on is Newland realized that the Biden administration is shifting its policy away from Ukraine.
	And that her efforts to try to stop that, to try to counter that, were rebuffed.
	And so she's resigning in protest because she's no longer going to be a party to the sellout of Ukraine.
	And I think the sellout of Ukraine is coming.
	That was my next question, actually.
	I'm glad you brought that up.
	Is the Biden administration ready to just abandon Ukraine, shift to the Middle East or China even, and just hope the American people have really short memories, which they do, by the way, and just let Ukraine collapse under the weight of its own failed corruption or what?
	What's the plan, you think?
	Well, I don't think either of you are old enough to remember Captain Kangaroo, or maybe you do.
	Yeah, I'm older than I look.
	I do remember Captain Kangaroo.
	So right next to Mr.
	Rogers on those mornings.
	You remember the...
	Trick, whatever he did, where he had all those plates, spinning plates and all these sticks.
	You know, I had like 10 plates spinning and trying to keep them up so they don't fall down.
	That's the Biden administration right now, except their hair is on fire.
	The hair is on fire in the Middle East.
	The hair is on fire with the Houthis.
	The hair is on fire with Iran.
	The hair is on fire with China.
	And boy, they got a full-fledged conflagration going with Ukraine.
	So where do you...
	Great managers.
	You only got a bucket of water now.
	You only got one bucket.
	Maybe two.
	Which fire are you going to put out first?
	Two years ago, the only fire in town really was Ukraine.
	China was out there on the fringes, but there wasn't that much concern yet about China.
	But that's not the case today.
	So, at the top of the pyramid, the number one priority is what's going on in Israel and Palestine.
	And Joe Biden, they're trying to walk a tightrope on this.
	On the one hand, he does not want to alienate the American-Israeli Political Action Committee.
	He wants to stand strong with Israel, back them up.
	But they realize they've got a real political problem within the Democrat ranks, that the people up in Minnesota and Michigan, the Muslim populations, Arab and American populations, they're not having any of it.
	Let me...
	Go ahead.
	No, I'm sorry, but...
	To kind of aggregate what you're saying here, the incompetence and the arrogance of the current administration in the State Department has long-term consequences that will affect every American.
	We're talking about the rise and fall of nations.
	And I want to show something on my screen here.
	This is from TASS, the Russian news agency.
	Kremlin announces creation of blockchain-based payment system in BRICS. So the...
	The economic sanctions against Russia, plus the current argument of the West wanting to steal the nearly $300 billion in Russian assets held in Western banks, essentially, held in Western currency, this has only, I would argue, accelerated the move of Russia, Iran, China, and other BRICS nations to find an alternative to dollar transactions.
	And there was another headline just today, I think it's India, I'm pretty sure it's India announcing The dollar is no longer necessary for trading in any energy in and out of India.
	You can pay in rupees now.
	That's on top of the rubles in Russia and so on and the yuan.
	Isn't it exactly this kind of thing that the Bidens and the Newlands and so on have pushed us toward which can end U.S. financial dominance and end the quality of life that we have known our entire lives?
	Yeah, well, it is ending.
	It's coming to an end.
	We're witnessing the end of an era.
	And it was so unnecessary.
	You know, Russia today is not what the Soviet Union was.
	And in fact, I've argued that in many aspects, the United States is becoming more like what the old Soviet Union was when they were ruled by a gerontocracy, a bunch of doddering old guys, you know, that probably had to wear adult depends like Joe Biden.
	Mentally unfit, becoming sclerotic at the top, and then having an economy that was not necessarily working well.
	There's so much.
	Russia and the United States really should be natural allies.
	What Russia has become is a Christian nation, a very strongly Christian nation with the Eastern Orthodox Church.
	And they're very, very prominent.
	There are the number of Americans and Australians and Canadians that are moving to Russia with large families because Russia is welcoming.
	Russia rejects the whole woke ideology.
	Vladimir Putin is very upfront about, hey, you know, if you're homosexual, what you do in the privacy of your bedroom, that's your business.
	Well, we're not going to make that a policy of state.
	We're going to encourage the marriage of men and women, the families of mothers and fathers.
	In fact, he made that point at the youth conference just yesterday where he said everyone's born from a mother and a father.
	And so, you know, they're very traditional in that regard.
	They have fought and won a war against Islamic extremists.
	They oppose Islamic extremists.
	They are very much against the importation and use of drugs and things like fentanyl and other substances.
	So we've got a lot of areas where we would be in agreement culturally or at least used to be in agreement culturally.
	And that's part of the problem.
	The United States is facing its own internal civil war, where we're destroying ourselves with the drug trafficking, with the rising crime, with the embrace of these so-called alternative lifestyles, which at the very heart of it is an attack on Christianity.
	Not just an attack on Christianity, because Muslims as well reject Christianity.
	This notion that men can be women, women can be men.
	It's the attack on the family.
	Yeah, it's the attack on the family.
	That's right, that's right.
	Muslim families, Christian families, Jewish families, just all family values are under attack.
	I would argue family values are human values.
	This is the sustainability of the human race.
	So those who are attacking it are anti-human, or promoting anti-human ideas, I should say.
	Larry, Todd, I'll go to you next, but I just want to give Larry a chance to describe his website, sonar21.com.
	Larry, you want to give us a quick overview of what people can find on your website?
	It's sort of my psychotherapy, where I try to look at what's going on in the world and try to, because of my background, having worked at the CIA, Having worked at State Department to encounter terrorism, and in that job worked closely with both the FBI,
	with transportation security, with U.S. military special operations, I bring a very unique view, understanding both how intelligence and policy come together, what are a lot of the factors that are unseen that people don't understand that could be helping produce a policy.
	You know, for example, when the New York Times put out a piece over a week ago Monday describing all the CIA activities in Ukraine, my job was to help explain what that really means.
	That was not just the result of some intrepid reporter getting his hands on a story.
	This was a deliberate leak, and it had a very specific purpose.
	And so my goal is to try to cut through the propaganda that is bombarding the American public And force them into looking at the alternatives and recognizing when they're being played, when they're being lied to.
	Larry, I'm sorry to interrupt, but why put your neck on the line to do what you do?
	What drives you?
	Because you're doing a lot of interviews.
	I've always been a contrarian.
	You know, you can go back and look at my third grade report cards.
	Talks too much.
	Who knew?
	It would come in handy.
	I'm not making money off of it, that's for sure.
	I was a Fox News analyst for a year, 2002, going into 2003.
	And when I did the Hannity and Combs show back in November of 2002...
	I was asked about, should we go into Iraq?
	And I said at the time, invading Iraq would be a mistake, that the United States was not in a position to fight a two-front war, and that we should focus on Afghanistan and finish the job there.
	Well, Roger Ailes took umbrage with that, sent down word that I wasn't to be allowed on air anymore.
	Oh, wow.
	It is credit, though they paid out the contract.
	It ended in January.
	But they made sure that I was no longer on air.
	And I used to be sort of interviewed frequently by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, all of the various cable and broadcast news shows.
	But when I became a critic of Barack Obama, boy!
	I lost the line.
	That's not allowed either.
	So, you know, I've been alienating to both sides on the issues, both the so-called conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats.
	I've never liked bullies.
	I'm with you on that.
	My speaking out is my effort to punch back against bullies.
	Well, on this show, we're not tied to any political tribe either, or any religious tribe, you might say.
	And, of course, we take great issue with what the Zionists are doing right now in Gaza.
	And I recently had a pro-America, pro-Texas Muslim in studio here the other day talking about freedom and what the Muslim community, what they admire about America and about Texas, pro-Second Amendment, pro-First Amendment, the whole deal.
	So, you know, we are independent thinkers.
	Our audience is, too.
	Now, Todd, I know you've got a lot more questions, but I just wanted to put that out there, that we're with you, Larry.
	Thank you.
	This isn't about joining a tribe.
	This is about, we've got to use our brains and our moral compass if we're going to bring us back to what this country was founded on.
	But Todd, it's all yours.
	Amen.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, I mean, we talk a lot about NPCs, non-playing characters, and I submit that our job right now is to go out and find others like us.
	And who are the like us?
	It's those who possess the ability to critically think.
	So thank you for being a leader in critical thinking.
	You know, the movie Wag the Dog destroyed me forever because now I look at war a little bit differently and I know it's really good for big business.
	It's good for business.
	But what I can't reconcile that maybe you can help me out because I know from a fascism standpoint that, you know, big business is when you talk about deep state, I don't know who Deep State is.
	Who are they?
	Maybe you do.
	But I have a sneaky suspicion it has something to do with the major, huge corporations that run the show, the Black Rocks, etc.
	My question is this.
	Illegal immigration is going to be the destruction of our country.
	And my question is...
	Who benefits?
	Help me understand the money flow.
	Who in this crazy country that's running the show are benefiting from all of these illegal immigrants coming in?
	I just don't know.
	One of my good friends, Mark Thompson.
	Mark was the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State in the Bureau of Counterterrorism.
	He'd served in the Marine Corps, left the Marine Corps as a major.
	Was one of the whistleblowers on Benghazi.
	Caught a lot of pressure after that.
	Was basically forced to resign.
	He retired.
	Lives in Iowa, Clarion, Iowa.
	And he's become an Iowa state legislator.
	The reason I raise his name, he's been a leader now in Iowa going after the human trafficking, which all stems from these illegal immigrants.
	And why is he worried about it in Iowa?
	Well, these illegal immigrants are being funneled into turkey farms, pig farms, chicken farms, meat packers.
	And a lot of those people that own those businesses tend to be Republican, not just Democrat, Republican.
	And so there's money to be made because you can bring in these illegals.
	You don't have to provide them with health care.
	You don't have to provide them with a minimum wage.
	You can basically, you've got slave labor.
	And they take advantage and exploit these people.
	Some of them are so desperate to get into the United States that they'll put up with that.
	And then, you know, several of the young women and the young men, they're sex trafficked.
	You know, they're forced to sell their bodies.
	So there are people making money off of that, too.
	Okay.
	Okay, thank you.
	Todd, that's a very important question.
	You know, follow the money, you're absolutely correct.
	But there's also, I mean, we've covered before how the corrupt Democrats in California get, you know, money under the table from the drug traffickers.
	Cartels pay them off to look the other way.
	And I'm sure it's not just Democrats that are involved in that, you know?
	Guys, it's U.S. corporations.
	So one of the things, me and my partners, I had two other partners, John Moynihan, Bobby Nieves.
	When we started Berg Associates in 1998, Bob had been the chief of international ops at DEA. John Moynihan ran DEA's undercover money laundering operations in New York City.
	One of our very first projects was to bring a civil racketeering case against the tobacco company.
	We started with Philip Morris.
	Our client in this was the European Union and the governors of Colombia.
	It should have been a criminal case but it was a civil case.
	Philip Morris settled Because what they were doing was they were working with the drug traffickers, with the Mexican cartel, with the Colombian cartel.
	Knowingly, willingly, we had the evidence.
	Doing what?
	What were they doing with the cartels?
	They were selling, they were laundering money.
	Because what would happen is the cartels would pay a premium for a master case of cigarettes.
	Huh.
	And then the cartels would take those master cases of cigarettes.
	Then they would sell them at a discount.
	So, yeah, they'd lose $60, $70 a master case, with a master case normally costing around $250, $300.
	But then the drug cartels could say, hey, this is where this money came from the sale of cigarettes.
	It didn't come from selling drug trafficking.
	But we had evidence where Philip Morris executives would fly into Venezuela and then cross the border and go into a small town called Maical.
	And Maical was the smuggling center for Colombia.
	And the state senator for that was a guy named Santander Lope Sierra.
	Well, He was a graduate of Southern Illinois University, a Saluki.
	You know, that was the mascot.
	But he was known in Columbia as the Marlboro Man because he controlled the distribution of Marlboro cigarettes.
	No kidding.
	And so these Philip Morris executives would come in, they'd pick up bags of cash, Third-party checks, U.S. postal money orders that are not supposed to be outside the United States.
	And then they took them back, and a lot of the money was deposited into Russian banks.
	They were laundering it through Russian banks.
	We knew that because one of our other first jobs was on the Bank of New York Russian money laundering case, and we got the bank records for a bunch of Russian banks who were able to track their transactions.
	But my point was...
	And it's not just, look, it's not just Philip Morris.
	John Deere.
	We got called in by the security director for John Deere several years ago because they were getting these odd checks that were being drawn.
	You know, the normal way is like if you're going to buy a $2 million tractor, will you draw up a check, $2 million in your name?
	Hey, Mike Brown, here you go.
	No, that's not what was happening.
	They were getting what are called third-party checks.
	And what was taking place is the Colombian drug traffickers set up a system called the Black Market Peso, which was a way that people could buy U.S. dollars on the black market and then pay for goods in the United States.
	And when we informed John Deere about this, the CEO told the security director, never mind, it's not our problem, we're not going to worry about it.
	So my point is, it's not just the politicians.
	It's mainstream business.
	And it cuts across.
	It's liquor companies, it's tobacco companies, it's companies that sell shoes, electronics, because there's so much money to be made.
	Well, let's follow the money to the tip of the spear.
	And as I understand it, I may be off by 5% or so, but I think the number is 85%.
	Of all business within the United States flows up through two companies, BlackRock and Vanguard.
	Those are the two.
	So you think about the leadership of those two organizations, and when you start talking about deep state, I can't help but to think that the money flows there and that they're pulling the strings.
	Am I wrong?
	You're talking about public companies that are held.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Mm-hmm.
	85%.
	In the deep state, you're dealing with senior bureaucrats.
	People who have risen to the level of GS-14, GS-15, or the first Senior Executive Service, SES, or an intelligence site.
	It's called SIS, Senior Intelligence Service.
	And, you know, they're careers, and they recognize we can outweigh any president.
	But they got weaponized.
	They got weaponized in 2016 in a way that we've never seen before.
	Who weaponized them?
	Well, they weaponized themselves because, you know, John Brennan, for example, he was counting on, you know, a better position with Hillary Clinton, counting on her winning the election.
	I know for a fact that there were two of the generals who used to run the Joint Special Operations Command.
	One was an Army general and one was a Navy admiral that they were present with someone I know, and they were arguing in the summer of 2015 over what job they were going to get in the Hillary Clinton administration.
	Yep.
	So they were pissed off when Trump won, and when you say weaponized, they decided that, okay, you guys have messed, you walked into the wrong saloon here, and we're going to destroy you.
	They went after Mike Flynn.
	They deliberately targeted and falsely accused him.
	Absolutely.
	Send in a message.
	Larry, I want to be respectful of your time, and I can't believe the hour's already gone, but one last question.
	Do we make it to Election Day here this year?
	Do you think we have proper presidential elections this year, or is the deep sea so desperate that they'll find a way to stop it?
	No, I think we'll make it to Election Day.
	We've made it to elections during the Civil War.
	We made it to elections during World War II, during World War I, so we'll make it.
	The question is whether the Republicans will, frankly, get off their ass and do what's necessary in order to ensure the integrity of the electoral system.
	We already saw that in places like Georgia where the governor, ostensibly a Republican, completely abdicated his role and that they did not even follow proper procedures in Georgia.
	And Donald Trump only lost that state by 12,000 votes.
	Right.
	And yet they say that his claim that the election was stolen is absurd.
	What's absurd is to accept the fact that that was a legitimate election.
	That's what's absurd.
	Yes, clearly.
	All right, right.
	Well, Larry, I really want to thank you for your time and your analysis and also your patriotism to this great republic.
	And your website, sonar21.com, that's where people can follow your work.
	And we've really enjoyed this conversation, and I'd love to have you back in the future.
	I'd be happy to do so, guys.
	Thank you for having me.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you, Larry.
	You rock.
	You're awesome.
	Yeah, thanks a lot.
	Have mouth, we'll travel.
	Love it.
	All right.
	I just want to see the video from your third grade class.
	That's all.
	I don't ask for much.
	A nightmare.
	We're all fortunate that we're old enough that there weren't videos of our childhood posted on the internet.
	True.
	Thank God for that.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Larry.
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	All right, welcome back, folks, to the after-party discussion here on Decentralized.tv.
	And Todd, wow, ha ha.
	I love our guest.
	Larry Johnson just also proves that there are a lot of so-called white hats who are former CIA or former FBI or former State Department, what have you.
	He's one of them.
	Well, you know that before we came on, I actually asked him the question if questioning the CIA was fair game because I just didn't know, you know, whether he was a fanboy or not.
	And he was like, no, I'm not a fanboy.
	So, no, he's fascinating.
	Boy, what a rich experience he has.
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	And there's so many incredible people like that that we've interviewed, like Paul Craig Roberts, too, you know.
	But if you think about it, When you're younger in government, like when you're in your 30s, you tend to just follow orders.
	When you're in your 40s, you start to question orders.
	And then when you're in your 50s, you start to defy orders.
	And then just about the time you hit retirement age, you figure out, oh man, this has all been bullshit.
	Or it can be the other way.
	When you get into your 50s, you start realizing, hey man, the only one around here not building mansions is me.
	So when you get in your 60s, you become corrupt and you just become a Drew Babylonian bastard, Mike.
	There are a bunch of those, and then you get paid.
	There's a lot of people that get paid off to just lie for the State Department, you know?
	Absolutely.
	Those are the ones that end up on Fox News or MSNBC or where have you.
	Guys like Larry are banned from mainstream channels.
	I know, I know.
	You know, I was thinking about Trump's position that the problem in Palestine must be finished.
	And I know that surprised you, hearing that, as it surprised me when I read it.
	And I can only ponder that I'm sure he also has a great solution for Ukraine and Taiwan, Mike.
	I mean...
	Just finishing the problem.
	I don't know.
	I throw that out there.
	That just bothered me today.
	You know, in a recent podcast, perhaps you heard this, but I mentioned the fact that two years ago I was approached by some really deep-pocketed investors.
	They wanted to invest in Brighton TV and really turn it into a pro-Trump network.
	And I don't know if Trump had anything to do with it.
	I never knew if it was actual Trump's people or not.
	But it was very clear to me that at that point I couldn't criticize Trump if I were to accept that kind of money.
	And I always reserve the right to criticize Trump or anybody because I'm going to call him out on things.
	And that's what our guest was like today, Larry Johnson.
	He's always going to call people out.
	He doesn't have a party.
	He's not like a party cult member.
	He's going to call you out.
	That Larry Johnson is all about what we're all about, which is building the infrastructure of human freedom.
	I mean, he just speaks the truth.
	He calls it like he sees it, and he's not going to protect anyone for any favors.
	At least that's my interpretation of him.
	Yeah, because if you're a principled person, you should be driven by loyalty to principles.
	And clearly Larry is, and clearly you and I are, and that's why we're all banned in one form or another.
	We're all deplatformed from the powers that be.
	But it's people like us, and there are many, there are millions of Americans like us and people all over the world like us who, they don't want to just go along with a bunch of lies.
	They want to ask real questions.
	They want to understand the world.
	And they're tired of all the lies and corruption, frankly.
	People grow tired of it.
	It's like...
	Hey, why can't we have an honest government run by competent people who aren't on a suicide mission like Victoria Nuland was against Russia?
	Right.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's interesting, and I couldn't help myself.
	You know I have that kind of sense of humor, but during the break, I did figure out the Middle East conflict, Mike.
	I've reconciled it all.
	Could it be that the Israeli...
	Zionist leadership, Mike, that they want to convert thy neighbors to Judaism, and they've decided that the best mass way to circumcise Palestinians is with bunker bombs, Mike?
	Could it be?
	I don't know.
	I think they're just a murderous regime that wants to destroy everybody around them.
	Because God told him to or something.
	I don't know.
	That's not the same God that you and I know.
	That's for sure.
	No, it is not.
	It is not.
	But boy, there's some force over there that just...
	I don't know.
	The Gaza cost.
	I don't know if you've heard that term, Sloan around, but it really impacted me when I read it today.
	Yeah.
	Because it feels like that's what it is, and I hope it stops.
	Well, I had Roger Stone on my show, and I asked him that question about what Trump would do in the Middle East, and Trump being, of course, very much pro-Israel.
	And in Roger's opinion, he thought that Trump would just try to stop the bloodshed and find peace.
	Now, Trump's never going to go against Israel.
	He's all in with Israel, but...
	He also doesn't want to see bloodshed and violence and instability in the Middle East because beyond the humanitarian concerns, from Trump's point of view as a business person, it also has economic consequences as we're seeing now in the Red Sea with the Yemenis and the cargo vessels.
	So Everybody loses when war happens.
	It seems, Mike, but then when you read, the interviewer then asked if the former president was on board with the way Israel was executing its offensive in Gaza.
	Trump responded, you've got to finish the problem.
	I read that and I just, I don't know, it's hard for me to give him a break.
	I want to hear that from Trump's lips.
	I want to actually hear the audio before I assign too much weight to it.
	Maybe somebody is selectively choosing Trump's words there.
	Very good.
	This is not your first rodeo, and it was JapanToday.com.
	Maybe lost in translation.
	Maybe Trump actually said, I like chocolate and croquet, and it got mistranslated into, like, bomb Gaza.
	I don't know.
	Fair enough.
	Well, I hope that today's guest, I hope it's kind of what keeps bringing people back, because we have amazing guests.
	I mean, when you told me that we were going to have Larry on, I'm like, you're kidding me.
	And I didn't ask him a lot of questions that I wanted to, but I hope to one day.
	Well, he said he wanted to come back.
	Yeah, I'm really intrigued.
	For him to be able to educate us on what's the day in the life of a CIA analyst, you know?
	And how did it change from when you first came in to when you left?
	Was there a discernible difference, you know?
	Yeah.
	How did it go from, because I'm sure he went in just all, yeah, I mean, my parents are so proud of me.
	I'm a CIA analyst now, and this is exciting and everything, and probably left.
	Like, man, I can't leave here quickly enough.
	My guess is, I mean, we'll ask him that question next time, but I would imagine that being a CIA analyst is a very frustrating job because you are data-driven, you're fact-driven, you try to gather information about what's happening geopolitically, the key players, their motivations.
	As a CIA analyst, it can't be opinion.
	up everything in your report, right?
	And then you present that to somebody, whoever, maybe if you're a high enough level, you present it to the president or you present it to your CIA boss or you present it to the State Department.
	And then at that point, they ignore you and do whatever the hell they want because they don't care about facts.
	So I think that's the life.
	Yeah.
	And you probably are working in a silo, right?
	You don't know what the other analysts are working on as well, and so it's just like everybody's doing their job, but you don't have all the facts.
	I would imagine that CIA analysts tend to be high IQ individuals.
	And they tend to be people who are vastly underappreciated in society because, frankly, the politicians and bureaucrats that run the world, they don't want to hear the truth from an analyst.
	That's a good point.
	And I think the CIA analysts...
	You have to keep it to yourself.
	Well, right, right.
	You can't go online and talk about what you found.
	But also, I think, then a lot of analysts right now, for their career to survive, I would imagine they have to kind of Fudge it to give their boss what they want to hear.
	That's right.
	And that's not a rewarding career.
	It's like, oh, you're just fudging everything.
	They might as well just work for the New York Times or the Washington Post, or maybe they do at that point.
	Right.
	Just make it stuff up.
	Right.
	Wow.
	But great guests.
	Thank you, Mike, for sourcing that one out.
	Unbelievable.
	Well, absolutely.
	We've done a lot of great shows here.
	I want to remind our audience that this whole show called Decentralize.TV, we have 35 episodes plus that are posted at Decentralize.TV and many more coming, some that we filmed and haven't yet posted.
	They're all on the way.
	And most of them are evergreen type of topics, so you can watch them at any time.
	And Todd, I also want to say that since we started this show, and we were talking about gold and silver and crypto, Bitcoin and Monero and other privacy coins, and guess what's been going up and skyrocketing like crazy for the past few weeks?
	Oh, gold and silver and Bitcoin and other crypto.
	Yeah, that's right.
	I think we deserve a little back-patting here.
	A little golf clap, Mike?
	Can we get a golf clap?
	Just a little.
	I mean, the things that we encourage people to look at have saved their assets at this point.
	They've done really well.
	Yes.
	And you know what, Mike?
	This weekend was very rewarding for me.
	I'm six months after installing my food forest, and I had the guys come over to do kind of a six-month checkup, and My food forest is becoming so abundant with tiny fruits that are coming in because now it's starting to get to be spring.
	And so you can see it.
	You can see just all of this, whether it's the peaches or the citrus or the avocados or everything.
	These little fruits are starting to appear.
	And I can tell that they are just going to be the gift that keeps on giving.
	And I thought, you know what?
	My wealth, part of my wealth is in my back property.
	That's right.
	And I'm so happy about that.
	You know, there's going to be a day when people are going to be paying $10 for an avocado and, humble brag, I'm going to go pick one and eat a bunch of them and give them away to my neighbors.
	You know, that's going to be...
	That's real wealth.
	You know what I mean?
	You made a very wise investment decision in your food forest.
	Right.
	And I would suggest that anybody out there remotely interested in permaculture, please go to our fourth interview with Jim Galt.
	He's the CEO of foodforestabundance.com.
	Just a shout-out for him.
	Because of Galt's Gulch?
	No, because of Galt's Landing.
	Jim Gale.
	Sorry.
	He lives at Galt's Landing over in Orlando.
	That's named from Galt's Gulch, though.
	Also.
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	But, you know, he and his team can change your property for the better if you're interested.
	In a huge way.
	Yeah.
	We've done so many amazing interviews with really pioneering people who can transform your life.
	That's the thing.
	If you watch all our episodes, and they're all free, and you will learn so much that will absolutely radically transform your life.
	And I would say, Todd, that what's coming up, which is the collapse of the dollar, the collapse of the Western banking system, we're seeing it right now.
	Like I mentioned during the interview, we just did TASS and Russia announcing they're going to have a blockchain cryptocurrency system for BRICS that they said, I didn't even read that on the air, but they said it's going to be usable for settlements by governments, corporations, and everyday users.
	United States who?
	Yeah, like my question was, how soon can I buy those tokens, man?
	Exactly.
	Because I want to be in that system because the governments can't counterfeit it.
	No, no.
	I mean, a blockchain-based international settlement currency backed by commodities like gold and energy, where do I sign up, man?
	I think we've talked about that, Mike, a time or two.
	Yeah.
	I can't get out of dollars fast enough when that thing happens.
	But then it'll probably be illegal in America, you know, to use the brick system.
	That's true.
	It's a great point.
	Yeah.
	It's a great point.
	Right.
	That is a great point.
	I never thought about that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Now that takes me off just thinking about it.
	Yeah.
	You're pre-ticked off about the coming.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Damn it.
	Oh, goodness.
	Oh, my God.
	We want to be free now and in the future.
	Damn it.
	Start protesting the future.
	Okay.
	By the way, I've got other interesting news here, which kind of brings me to one of the sponsors I want to plug.
	And I know I want to give you a chance to talk about what you do.
	But this is a little teaser.
	I'm probably not supposed to say this yet.
	But you know one of our sponsors, AbovePhone.com.
	And it's AbovePhone.com slash DTV, folks.
	If you want to get a de-Googled phone and give us a little bit of credit here at the show, that's our sponsor.
	It's just AbovePhone.com slash DTV. Well...
	They're going to be producing here shortly a Brighteon edition above phone.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, that has our built-in Brighteon app, which is banned by Google and Apple.
	But even better, Todd, and this is currently experimental, I can't promise the results here, but coming up, it might take a couple of months, we're going to have our AI language model.
	We're going to have a small portable version pre-installed on the future phones so that when you buy a Brighton Edition above phone, again, this is coming up.
	It's not available yet.
	You'll be able to ask the phone questions of our AI language model, and you'll get the answers locally without any Internet required.
	How cool is that, Todd?
	I hope he installs that on the laptop, too, because they have an amazing...
	Okay, perfect.
	It's a larger model.
	Do you know?
	And I'm so bad.
	I got one of the above...
	I can't remember what they call it.
	They're laptops, right?
	Yeah, above book.
	And I got it over...
	Above book.
	Thank you.
	I got one and it's sitting right over there.
	It hasn't even been open because I'm waiting for your AI system to come out.
	That literally is going to be the purpose of it initially is I want to just be able to download that and start querying it.
	Can you give us an update on that, Mike?
	Yeah, actually, we have a lot of compute invested in this project.
	About $600,000 worth of hardware and developers so far.
	Amazing.
	And we're going to be producing the first large language model that you can download for free.
	You can query it on your own local computer.
	You do need about 16 gigabytes of RAM, which is pretty common these days, in order to run the model locally.
	And that way you have total privacy.
	No one spies on you.
	It doesn't operate in the cloud.
	It runs locally.
	And we're training the model on what we call reality-based content so that it can give you answers on food, nutrition, herbs, permaculture, gardening, natural medicine, off-grid medicine, emergency medicine, anything related to that, which is sort of my wheelhouse, that's going to be in our first model.
	And then in the coming months...
	It will expand its knowledge base and it will also begin to incorporate a lot of preparedness and survival knowledge and then eventually financial survival.
	For example, David Morgan, one of our guests here, gave us permission to train on all of his videos.
	So we downloaded all his videos, 1,600 videos or whatever it is, and put them through transcription and then processing and through the data pipeline.
	So Our model will be trained on David Morgan's knowledge as well.
	Beautiful.
	It's a really exciting project.
	And everybody, please know that talk about somebody who leads with his chin versus his handout.
	He actually makes the, Mike makes the investments in this entire system.
	You heard the number $600,000.
	He has never once asked for a penny.
	But the way that we can help Mike is just support him by ordering your products.
	Right, Mike?
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	HealthRangerStore.com, that's our website where we have our lab-tested nutrition products, superfoods, and storable foods.
	HealthRangerStore.com.
	But Todd, I want to give you a chance to plug your website, DecentralizedDirectory.com, too.
	Tell us, how's that going?
	I know you're consulting with a lot of people.
	What kind of feedback are you getting and success stories?
	Because it's almost tax season.
	It is tax season.
	People are preparing their taxes, and I have a lot of satisfied...
	I'm not going to call them clients because I don't sell anything.
	I educate people on a specific entity that helps people who are 1099 earners or W-2 earners keep way more of what they earn.
	I mean, it's pretty phenomenal.
	Now, I do want to say, I want to make a public service announcement here.
	After I launched the site, you know, initially we had talked about me being able to help people with private crypto and educating people on that.
	And what I am not, everybody, I've learned is I am not a crypto help desk.
	So I have actually discussed...
	I have actually dissuaded a lot of people who want to book an hour with me to be able to get into crypto.
	What I've learned is there are just many, many people, and forgive me for saying this, but just kind of have no business being in crypto, just because it's so riddled with risk, really.
	And technical, you have to have a lot of technical skills at I had this wonderful older lady, she wouldn't mind, she's in her 70s, and she is deathly afraid the world is just going to hell.
	And she has $20,000 to her name, and she just desperately wanted to be able to pivot that $20,000 into private crypto and was asking me how.
	And she wanted to book an hour with me, and I refused the booking, but I did help I got her on the phone.
	I'm like, I'm not charging you a penny.
	Let me understand exactly what it is you're trying to achieve.
	And I totally dissuaded her, Mike.
	I mean, you're talking about $20,000 to her name.
	And I just couldn't do it.
	So...
	So please, I had somebody reach out to me today messaging me saying that they wanted some help with some crypto and stuff, and I turned them down.
	But let me tell you, if you are a U.S. taxpaying citizen and you have 1099 income or W-2 income, It will be the best investment of your time ever to actually visit DecentralizedDirectory.com, book an hour with me.
	And I have, so far I'm running right at, I'm almost at 50 people, Mike, who I've helped since over the last half year.
	And it's just amazing.
	It is a vehicle that, I'm just going to say it, the elites use.
	It's been around for 40 years, and it's lawful.
	I do not talk about tax evasion, but I certainly am a fan of tax avoidance, lawful tax avoidance.
	And so...
	You know, I don't sell anything.
	Matter of fact, I have people that go through the consultations, and the last thing I tell them is I say, you're never going to hear from me again, because I'm not the guy that's going to follow up with you to try to sell this.
	Because what I just did was presented it.
	You're a very smart person.
	You will arrive at the conclusion, whether it's good for you or not.
	Regardless, I am so glad to know you.
	And I would say probably seven out of ten times, Mike, they come back and they want to do Okay, great to know.
	Decentralizeddirectory.com is Todd's website where you can learn more about the Protected Unincorporated Nonprofit Association, which I still don't know all the details about it, but from everything that I've heard from you and some of the people you've talked with, it's a real eye-opener.
	It is.
	As a disclaimer, we always encourage everybody to do your own research and understand your own financial risk, your own financial goals, whether it's crypto, gold, or this UNA that you're talking about, or any vehicle, folks.
	Do your own research.
	Get qualified expert guidance and know your local laws and your national laws and do what is in your own best interest.
	We never...
	Try to push you in a direction that is contrary to your interests.
	Everything that we talk about from gold and silver and privacy phones and private crypto and so on is designed to protect your assets, protect your interests, protect your privacy, and help you survive this chaos that's happening.
	And I'm glad we have so many viewers, Todd, and so many people that this show has helped.
	I'm just...
	We've been doing this for, well, not quite a year yet, but it's going to be a year soon, and this is something that I'm really proud of us doing.
	Me too.
	Me too, Mike.
	And I do want to say for the benefit of, we have been so prolific in our interviews, and we have a lot of interviews that are kind of in the barrel that may be even a couple months old.
	And I just want to let everybody know that we are trying mightily to be able to get these edited, but it has been, there's a couple of things happening.
	World War III hit.
	And Mike, you are so prolific with your own content creation.
	And then the other thing is this AI model is on a timeline, a very tight timeline.
	So I just want to let everybody know who has interviewed with us, please be patient.
	They're coming, and we are very grateful for the time that you've provided, and they are coming.
	That's true.
	And actually, we've made some internal pipeline changes.
	For example, this interview will be posted within just, I think, three or four business days.
	And then we'll be catching up on the previous interviews because, in any way, some internal changes.
	But the other cool thing is that every one of these interviews is getting transcribed and then fed into our data pipeline to train our AI model.
	That's cool.
	There's about a 30-day delay in that because it's a pretty involved process, and I only do it month by month now.
	So this being March, at the end of March, I will package up all what I call the spoken word content from March, which includes this interview, Todd.
	It includes all my podcasts and all my other interviews and special reports and things like that.
	That's going to be the March folder.
	And then that gets processed and worked into the model that's released at the end of April.
	Wow.
	Yeah, but the good news is that our AI model will be about a month, let's say 30 to 60 days behind current events, which is not bad considering that a lot of models out there are years behind.
	Are you kidding me?
	Anything else that's out there, put it this way, is just not the truth anyway.
	If it's part of Google's AI or GPT, it is...
	I mean, think about it.
	I think they're saying that when you query it, it's only up to 2021 or something like that.
	Right, right.
	A lot of them are only 2021.
	And then the Google model, of course, tells you that there were no white people in American history.
	Zero.
	All the founding fathers were apparently black.
	I had no idea, but Google has now corrected my understanding.
	The founding fathers were all black and they bore children.
	Well, okay.
	And apparently all the Supreme Court justices are also black.
	I did not know that.
	I mean, I know Clarence Thomas.
	I'm a great admirer of Judge Thomas.
	I knew he was black.
	I did not know everybody else has always been black throughout all of history.
	But thanks to Google AI, that's now clarified.
	Yes.
	Amazing.
	Yeah.
	But in a note of seriousness, isn't it crazy how history can so easily be changed?
	Think about it.
	I mean, if there wasn't a truth teller like you that actually is stepping up, leading with the chin, investing $600,000 in an AI system to be able to offset that The lies that are out there, the AI lies that are out there.
	I mean, everybody, please just understand what a huge undertaking this is from Mike and his team and about how it's for truth.
	I mean, you're standing on truth, Mike.
	We certainly are attempting to do a good job with that as best we can.
	Unfortunately, we don't have the billions of dollars that Elon Musk has or other companies.
	But we do have truth on our side, and it turns out it's not that expensive to train a model on actual history instead of made-up history.
	It probably takes more effort to fake it all, which is what Google's doing.
	They're faking everything.
	In any case, bottom line, folks, I hope you enjoyed today's interview and check out more interviews at decentralized.tv.
	And then, Todd, you have a show.
	Tell us about your new positioning of your show on YouTube also.
	Sure.
	I try to do it weekly on Fridays at noon, but if you go to Decentralized Directory, if you search for Decentralized Directory on YouTube, you'll come to my show, and it's called Lead With Your Chin.
	And it is all about initiatives where people within technology is kind of where we're focused.
	But not just that.
	Also, when you think about anything decentralized that has to do with self-custody, like even the fruit, the produce in my backyard, the food forest that I installed, you know, that is leading with your chin because we're trying that is leading with your chin because we're trying to be able to be Tadradamus, Mike Dradamus, et cetera, look into the future, skate to where the puck is going, recognize where the puck is going.
	And figure out how we can do what Mike did, lead with the chin, not the handout.
	And that is the whole genesis of the show is trying to find people and projects to where they're really making a difference for humanity.
	So I invite everybody, Fridays, we do a live stream and I'm pretty excited about it.
	That's awesome.
	That's awesome.
	Lead with your chin.
	That would have also been a great title of a book by Jay Leno, I think.
	Right?
	One of the most prominent chins in television history.
	I cannot get that visual out of my mind now.
	Lead with your chin, the book.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's a pretty good Jay Leno impression right there.
	Okay.
	Well, that's the show for today, folks.
	I hope you enjoyed it.
	I hope you learned a lot.
	Larry Johnson was a fantastic guest and very well informed.
	And it's people like that that give us hope that there's still the spirit of America alive today.
	And awake and working to try to bring us back to the original vision of the founding fathers of our nation.
	So that's our goal.
	We want humanity to be free, prosperous, and joyous.
	You know, we want health and wealth and abundance.
	And truthfully, we could all have that if it wasn't for all these evil entities running our nations into the ground, you know?
	That's right.
	I think abundance is natural.
	Just for the...
	Just for the record of truth, our founding fathers did not self-identify as founding mothers.
	Just going on record.
	But there were founding mothers as well.
	I mean, they had a role as well.
	But you're right.
	Our founding fathers did not think they were mothers.
	I did not think they could give birth except to a nation.
	Yeah, they let the founding mothers give birth to the actual founding babies.
	Yeah, Birth of a Nation was not a transgender movement.
	In other words, it was, I think, wasn't that the name of one of the early films, actually, Birth of a Nation?
	One of the first movies ever made, I believe.
	Yeah.
	Todd, the longer we stay on the air, the more insane it's going to get.
	So we should wrap this up.
	We should.
	All right.
	Thank you for joining me today, Todd.
	It's always a pleasure.
	Okay, thank you, Mike.
	Thanks, everyone.
	Cheers.
	All right, take care, everybody.
	And as always, be sure to check out the other episodes at decentralized.tv and check out abovephone.com slash DTV or decentralizeddirectory.com, which is Todd's website.
	So thank you for watching today, and God bless America.
	Take care, everybody.

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