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Feb. 1, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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THE END OF COVID - Alec Zeck and Mike Winner obliterate the field of VIROLOGY...
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Welcome to today's interview here on BrightTown.com, featuring a new docu-series that will be airing on BrightTown University, which is BrightU.com, and it begins streaming February 10th, and we have the two co-producers, which is Alec Zek and Mike Winner.
Welcome to the show, gentlemen.
It's great to have you on, and thanks for joining me today.
Thanks for having us, man.
It's an honor.
It's a total honor.
I'm really excited to share what we have.
Oh, yeah.
Great, Mike.
And, of course, we interviewed Mike Winter, previously involved in the Cordal Project as well, which is decentralized content.
So you guys are both working on some really important projects.
The name of the docuseries is The End of COVID. Now, let's start with Alec here.
Alec, the establishment hopes that COVID never ends because they get so much from it.
You know, they get compliance, they get fear, they get people to line up and be injected with, you know, experimental, unsafe biological weapons.
So how can you say?
I mean, it's an audacious title, right?
The end of COVID. What do you mean by the end of COVID? Yeah, so this is a really good question.
And it was cleverly named because we wanted to use language that was accessible to broad audience.
And the end of COVID is almost a misnomer because the reality is, as we show during the educational series, is that COVID never actually began in the first place.
It was all a big show and there was no Evidence of any material threat whatsoever.
And that's what we cover throughout the end of COVID, which again consists of over 90 pieces of original educational content and 11 modules, educating everyone on all the details that you could possibly need to know related to not only COVID, but the pandemic industrial complex in general.
I love that term.
I'm sorry to interrupt.
The pandemic industrial complex.
That nails it.
It is that.
Yeah, that's what it's become is a pandemic industrial complex, especially with the sophisticated sequencing technologies that they have in viral genomes and viral genetics, which we cover extensively during the end of COVID.
But again, the end of COVID is, like I said, a misnomer, but it's also a Trojan horse in that it's using COVID as the example to educate the masses on the pandemic industrial complex itself.
Thank you.
So let me ask you for just a clarification, like a big picture as we get into this.
Because we've interviewed many other guests here.
For example, Christine Massey and others who have been involved in trying to find any evidence that that would show that let's say quote viruses isolated from an infected person can be isolated first of all can be identified and shown to be identical particles and then that those particles could be introduced into someone else's body as an infection and then that that infection would reproduce the same sickness or
symptoms as the first person now as far as I can tell here Despite all the best efforts of many experts to try to follow through that process and get any of that to ever be shown by any university, any hospital, any pharma company, any government, the answer has been, oh we can't show that.
Am I correct in that?
And is that part of the assertion of the series here?
Yeah, you're 100% correct.
And that's the approach that we take with the entire series is we educate everyone on what happened over the last four years from the perspective that there is no evidence whatsoever that there was a submicroscopic pathogenic particle involved.
being transmitted or contagiously passed from person to person.
And we actually feature Christine Massey, I think, in either session eight of module one or session nine, which is the beginning of module two.
But nonetheless, that's the approach that we take.
And we know that that statement comes with a lot of questions Well, what about this?
How do you explain the symptoms that I had?
How do you explain loss of taste and smell?
How do you explain Sally getting sick right after Johnny?
And we aim to answer all of those questions thoroughly.
We really did our due diligence first in breaking through the cognitive dissonance ourselves for those who were featured in the series, but also in putting our shoes down Putting ourselves in the shoes of those who still have cognitive dissonance and those valid, totally understandable questions surrounding what causes the phenomenon of two or more people getting sick or what happened with COVID, especially with respect to the symptoms.
So we cover that extensively during the series, again, emphasizing that there is absolutely zero legitimate empirical evidence for the entirety of the field of virology.
Viruses have never been established to exist, nor have they been established to cause any disease.
And we actually take it a step above that, and we have a session titled The Proof of Contagion, where we highlight a number of studies that have been conducted attempting to demonstrate that disease is spread via the fluids of a sick person.
And every single one of those studies failed to show that disease is spread via the fluids of a sick person.
So without even getting into the molecular details, so to speak, which we do extensively, like I said, we have a whole session devoted to electron microscopy, a whole session devoted to viral genomics, but without even getting into that, The idea that disease is spread from one person to another via the fluids of the sick is completely unproven, and we cover that extensively as well.
Okay, wow, wow.
Yeah, these are, for some of our audience, these are going to be some outlandish statements.
For those who are, I think, better informed, they're going to bring up a lot of questions.
I have some questions for you, but let's bring in Mike Winter right now.
Mike, how did you get involved in this project, and what do you think is the importance of it to society?
I'm fortunate enough to know and work with one of the only outspoken and public old-school bioterrain physicians on the planet, Dr.
Bear Paul Lando, who has been a bioterrain physician for going over He's retired now.
So, you know, knowing him for 20-plus years and being educated on all of this when I was in my 20s about what the true nature of disease is, what causes illness, and what is really the true nature of what it means to be a human in this human biological machine, and the relationship to what we jokingly call what the paradigm of germ theory calls micro-terrorist,
micro-essentially creating sort of a war-like mentality around microorganisms micro-essentially creating sort of a war-like mentality around microorganisms and turning us into victims of them versus understanding the holistic nature of this divine realm that we cohabit in and truly what it means to be actually human.
So for me, this is just beyond important because this is an underlying paradigm shift.
I believe we're going into the 21st century where we're going to go beyond reductionist materialism and all that.
It's sort of funneled us in through the institutions of scientism, right, which is the belief of today.
It's the superstition of today is what we are countering.
Through true science, through logic, through reason, and through understanding actual history.
I think that is one thing I really love about the end of COVID. And it's really not even a...
I don't even know what we call it.
We were kind of like trying to figure out, what do we call this thing?
I mean, it's really terrain university, you could call it.
Because it is devised and created in a way where it takes you through the granular detail, step by step, to understand that history.
There is no such thing as a quote-unquote virus like Thomas Rivers created back in the 1930s.
This modern notion that we have a genetic material encased in a protein shell that can essentially infect a cell and then...
It's like a zombie particle that somehow can then be spit out and cause massive disease across the planet.
This whole notion is essentially superstition, superstition of scientism.
Mike, let me jump in and say one of the most remarkable things about all of this, in retrospect, was how fear was driven into the minds of almost everybody around the world over something they could not see.
No one could show it to you.
And yet people imagined all kinds of things like six feet safe social distancing.
You know, like there was an invisible bubble around everybody, and then they made it a real bubble with plexiglass.
I mean, you talk about delusions, but you were safe beyond six feet.
You were in danger at five feet because of this invisible particle terrorist, as you were saying.
This microscopic little terrorist thing, but nobody could even see it.
And yet everybody believes in it.
I mean, almost everybody.
How remarkable is that?
It's remarkable if you're ignorant to the state we're in and modernity.
We are at a time where we have lost touch in who we are, what we are, where we inhabit, how nature works, how we work with nature, and actually our divine right as co-creators on this planet or in this realm, whatever you want to call this place we coexist in.
We are an exciting time where we get to question everything because the actual infrastructure of scientism, not true science, is fracturing and falling apart, thanks in large part to COVID. I think this is so important because this is a massive paradigm shift in how we as true scientists, as we are true thinkers, applying logic and reason and the true scientific method.
And also beyond that, I believe we can go beyond the restrictions of inductive thinking and actually sort of expand our horizons with all sorts of other epistemological options, if you will, to really discern truth.
And that's what to me as a sort of bedroom philosopher really loves about the end of COVID is we go there.
We go into really, really deep discussions around all of this later on once we sort of set the foundation around the biochemical side and the microscopy side and sort of the political side when we're I mean, we cover all those elements, but then we go deep into the philosophy of nature, what it means to be human.
And also, we go into some really phenomenal discussions around the nature of technology, even, in our relation to that, and around consciousness and all that stuff.
So this really is a deep dive into what it means to be human and how we interface not only with each other, with nature, but with our sort of higher self.
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Now, Mike, I've got so many questions for you, but let me go back to Alec for just a second here.
One of the things that became very apparent pretty early on in this whole COVID fiasco was that the so-called scientism arguments never made sense.
It's like, oh, this little terrorist particle is so tiny that you can't see it, but somehow it's large enough to be caught in these really crude fibers in a cotton mask that you wear that is a thousand times larger than the size of the so-called virus.
Like that never made any sense.
And then another thing that didn't make any sense to me as a laboratory scientist, I mean, I run multiple mass spec instruments, and I'm familiar with quantitation.
The thing that never made sense to me was, oh, we're going to use a PCR test to see if you're infected and sick.
We're going to have a diagnosis and Based off of a partial pattern match of a genetic sequence without having any quant data, which means there's no data showing how many of these particles might be in your body, which means diagnosis is impossible.
You have asymptomatic people that are fine.
They get flagged by this PCR machine.
Oh, you're infected.
You're a danger to society.
I'm sorry, guys.
I mean, I'm sorry to use profanity, but it's all bulls**t.
It's complete and utter bullshit.
Well, Mike, you know a papaya had COVID. Yeah, exactly.
It would test positive.
But Alec, I mean, how does your documentary try to make sense of this?
How is this so compelling to so many people, including doctors?
Well, because it's all resting on the foundational acceptance by both mainstream doctors and a lot of alternative leading doctors that viruses exist as pathogenic disease-causing agents.
And, of course, we could spin our wheels forever arguing on the efficacy and safety of masking, of social distancing, of the experimental vaccines, or any other vaccines, aside from the COVID ones, for that matter, because there's a lot of attention on just the COVID vaccines as if they're the problem and other vaccines are good.
But the reality is all of infectious diseases and really much of allopathic medicine rests on these foundational, unproven assumptions about health and disease and how the body works.
And that's what we cover extensively during the end of COVID. So we have a whole session.
And when I say session, I'm talking like an hour to an hour and a half long presentation.
So anytime I use session both previous to this and in the future for this discussion with you, that's what I'm referring to.
We have a whole session just on PCR, breaking down exactly what is going on with the PCR, quote, tests, in air quotes.
And we also have a whole session on viral genomics, as I said, a session on virology pertaining to the scientific method.
So sort of painting it against the scientific methods, showing that it is fundamentally, by definition, pseudoscience.
There's no clear independent variable in the entirety of virology's foundational evidence, and they don't conduct proper control experiments.
We have a session on Stefan Lanka's control experiments and also John Franklin Ender's control experiments from the 1950s, which acted as the first Tissue culture experiment in virology.
So we cover all of this stuff extensively.
And I'd like to emphasize this point, if I may, because a lot of people in the health freedom space say that this is a divisive, unnecessary topic to focus on.
Again, the reality is everything that happened over the last four years, the entire CDC vaccine schedule where we're poisoning our kids, Much of allopathic medicine, much of the pharmaceutical industry's profits rest on this unproven pseudoscientific paradigm of health.
So I don't see how this is divisive whatsoever.
We show from multiple angles how all of virology's so-called evidence, namely the in silico genome, the PCR, quote, tests, the, quote, virus isolation and electron micrograph images, and then any other lines of evidence,
especially the circular reasoning and logical fallacies that sort of uphold all virology, we dissect All of that during the series and it is tremendously important, especially as the alternative health or the health freedom movement is so captured by this idea that there is lab made versions of these particles.
outside of the end of COVID, but it is relevant to bring this up.
I interviewed Dr. David Martin, and many people don't realize this.
Even he says there is no transmissible particle.
There is not and never was a transmissible particle agent or virus throughout the duration of COVID.
And gain of function is just dealing with synthetic sequences for the shot.
Said that on an interview I conducted with him, but that's relevant because all of this ties back into disease X that everyone's very afraid of.
that everyone's very afraid of.
All this ties back into this purported COVID variant that was 100% fatal in mice.
And if you go read those studies, it's absolutely absurd based on unproven assumptions continuation.
We have a whole session on gain of function as well during the end of COVID from Drs. Mark and Sam Bailey.
So all that to say, this is tremendously important.
It sets a major precedent for the future, especially as the alternative health freedom crowd is now carrying the torch for gain of function, which is actually far scarier in idea than the natural counterparts.
But the reality is neither of the two are true, and it's a false dilemma.
Now, let me ask for clarification.
In what you're presenting here in the end of COVID, you're not saying that there aren't chemical weapons.
As I understand it, you're not saying that there isn't VX nerve gas or chemical molecules that can be dropped on people to cause illness or death.
Because one of the things that, I mean, I talked about this early on with COVID. Remember how the outbreak really happened in New York City?
And then it didn't spread to other cities as it should have, according to models, if it were really an infectious agent that was spreading from person to person.
And it became apparent to me that the way the establishment could easily cause a pandemic outbreak simulation with all the real fear is to drop a chemical weapon on a city, make a bunch of people sick, have them show up at the hospital, hospitals are filled, people are dying, and then just call it COVID. And I mean, I don't know for sure if that's what happened, but it certainly is an easy way for them to carry that out.
And when you have high-density populations with subway systems and airports and train stations, you know, you can just spread chemical weapons all over the city and just wait for people to show up at the hospital and say, oh my gosh, we're in an outbreak.
Everybody locked down, you know?
It's so easy for them to do that.
Yeah, and that's a valid hypothesis worth exploring, and that's precisely the issue, is that we don't explore these other possible causes for this illness and a number of other illnesses because we're so myopically focused on this unproven paradigm.
I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments there.
Now, I'm not going to make an assertion that I know for sure that it was a chemical weapon that caused the symptoms that are known as, quote, COVID, which is, again, an amalgamation of a bunch of already existing symptoms before.
But point being that we're not exploring these other possible causes of illness in other ways that The parasitic class may be poisoning us, so to speak, because we're so myopically focused on this completely unproven paradigm.
So what is your explanation then for the fact that many people, including people that I know, they did lose their sense of smell.
Some lost their sense of taste.
Some had severe symptomatic illness.
I went through something as well, although mine was rather short because...
I treated it with ivermectin and chlorine dioxide and overcame it pretty quickly.
Why does ivermectin work for whatever this is?
Why did people experience such severe and unusual symptoms during this time?
So, I mean, there's a number of ways to answer this question, and it's all coming back to the understanding that health is unique to the individual.
But, of course, we could provide several explanations for what causes people, as an example, to lose loss or lose taste and smell for an extended period of time.
there could be some psychosomatic related stuff there and i know that uh makes it seem like i'm denying the experience for people but we have a whole session devoted to the psychosomatics as it relates to covid19 and i'm not saying that exclusively applies to what's going on with loss of taste and smell but there's also zinc deficiency and then we also have the reality that there is
we're swimming in a field of non-native electromagnetic fields and that could possibly mess with all our olfactory function and cause us to have some weird stuff going on with taste and smell and And then also, the reality is that we live in a web of interlocking or...
We're always perpetually interacting.
I guess you could say the words escaping me, but we live in a world of intersecting electromagnetic fields and we have our own electromagnetic fields on our bodies and we are always sharing information with each other.
We have a whole session devoted to the human biofield.
The point is with respect to loss of taste and smell.
We have other plausible explanations for what causes that.
There could have been some chemical poison, as you said, right?
But the reality is, if you're making the claim that X causes Y, then you need direct proof that X causes Y. You can't then point to Y absent of ever establishing a causal relationship with X and then claim that as proof of X. So I'll share...
Thank you for that answer That experience did not happen to them until after the vaccine started being administered in the population at large.
My theory is the vaccines, so-called vaccines, they do contain mRNA technology.
They do hijack the body's cells to produce chemical weapon molecules that were being shed from those people's bodies and then causing chemical poisoning of other people around them.
And that could explain some of the symptoms, especially the neurological symptoms.
That were being experienced.
At least that's my theory, because I don't know anybody who had this before the vaccine started being administered, and yet the people that I know never took the vaccines, but they were around people who took the vaccine.
So I do want to ask you about that.
But Mike, I want to get you to chime in on this.
Do you want to address what we just covered here?
I mean, here's another point, right?
Like, most people don't understand what causes disease, right?
We just did a podcast recently on Alpha Vedic where we broke down the six causes, six core causes of disease.
And one of them is the collective miasm concept, right?
Where we have a biological adaptation as a collective species depending upon certain factors, environmental factors.
We cannot doubt today that we are more connected probably than ever in known recent history, thanks to the internet and mass media.
What was mass media doing?
Mass media was creating a frenzy around Wuhan right out of the gates, right?
With all of that insane footage.
So one of the collective miasms that express is the traditional miasm of tuberculosis.
Tuberculosis comes from a restriction versus freedom essential concept.
This goes back to traditional homeopathy.
And, uh, that could be that we, that was also a huge function in the 1918, um, uh, Spanish flu was because of world war one and what it was the first, it was literally coined a world war, right?
And you had the same type of symptoms, right?
Upper respiratory symptomology.
Remember, COVID is a very generic symptomology for the most part.
I will say what we're talking about here with the loss of smell is very interesting.
I had that.
I actually went through the loss of smell to the point where I was eating raw horseradish.
To try to smell something.
It was trippy, dude, and I'm a very healthy person.
And I actually got, I actually finally overcame it.
I had it for about three or four days through C60, which is interesting.
I drank a whole vial of the Alphabetic C60 that we offer, so carbon 60 buckyball, you know.
C60. So that being said, I do think there's also something to say about us in our electrical systems and this concept of like carry reams with line of resistance and that can interplay directly with the sense of smell.
So I think electrically there's something going on with the psychosis around this miasm that doesn't necessarily have to relate to quote-unquote shedding from A shot, because I actually do know of people that are suffering from the loss of smell right out of the gate, which is interesting, in like March of 2020.
So, once again, these are all theories that need to be properly tested, right, so that we can come to a better understanding of what the hell happened.
And I do believe, Mike, that there are operations at play, I think, in Italy, in New York.
We had some very interesting things happening up in Southern Oregon where literally there were unmarked black vans spraying in small towns here.
And then all of a sudden there was a full epidemic of COVID-like symptoms here in the southern Oregon coast, which is beyond bizarre.
Here in this small town here, just south of me on the coast here, there was a huge installment of new cellular towers.
And my wife, being a nurse at the local hospital, got inundated that summer.
It was the summer of 2021 for like three weeks with COVID, you know, a whole huge COVID pandemic.
You know, pandemic in our small town where literally the governor came up Of California, and it just happened to correlate, I know this is correlation, but with all this installation of cell towers.
So I do believe there are a lot of cofactors at play that we saw here, but I would say mass media is obviously a huge, huge part of this.
And if you research into this concept of miasm, it really can help illuminate why we have these quote-unquote epidemics or pandemics throughout history.
Mike, if I could make one more comment in addition to that, and what Winter just said is perfect.
I think it is multifactorial.
Another huge element here, especially within the context of the placebo-nocebo effect, and I think that's a well-established phenomenon, what happens when we're told from the very beginning, you will experience loss of taste and smell, you will experience loss of taste and smell, you will experience loss of taste and smell.
I would imagine, again, given that We've already established that the placebo slash nocebo effect is a real phenomenon.
Psychosomatics, we actually can induce symptoms of illness by focusing on something, especially with perpetual fear, that that plays a huge role here.
And a stat that we cover during the end of COVID that I don't hear very often...
And Mike will probably laugh because I bring this up quite a bit.
But according to a study that was done by the CDC in July of 2021 on 540,000 people who were labeled, quote, COVID deaths in a hospital setting, the second strongest risk factor for death associated with COVID was fear slash anxiety-related disorders.
And now, applying that to the freedom movement, a lot of people would say, well, I wasn't scared of this virus.
Sure, but were you fearful at any point of uncertainty, of government tyranny, of losing your job, of something happening to you or your kids or something like that if you refused the vaccine?
Because if that was the case, I don't think fear discriminates necessarily.
And I know I can even say for me there are elements of time where I experienced fear or just heightened fight or flight for an extended period of time.
And so the reality is fear and our belief about something plays a huge, huge, huge role in the actual physical manifestation of certain symptoms.
But again, stressing that this is just one of many factors.
It is multifactorial.
And I think that's another thing that oftentimes happens when people are so steeped into the germ paradigm is we look at one singular cause and For an entire group of people that led to their symptoms failing to realize that there are so many factors at play and they're unique to the individual.
So we can't really say for sure and we don't want to make any assertions that it is one single thing causing this.
There are a lot of factors at play and it's all unique to the individual.
Well, we have covered in the past on our website, Natural News, we've covered the, or maybe I've covered it in podcasts, but hypnosis studies.
I mean, a lot of what you're talking about here is hypnosis, mass hypnosis.
But hypnosis studies, one in particular where individuals were selected who were hypersensitive to poison ivy, and then they would extend their hand on the Like, on a table, and then a researcher would tell them, I'm going to brush a leaf of poison ivy on your hand.
And they would do that, and although it was not poison ivy, that person would break out in skin rashes.
Like, their mind made it real.
And that's part of what you're talking about right now.
Your mind can make it real.
There was another study where a researcher would pretend to put a lit cigarette out on a person's skin, even though he actually just used a pencil eraser at the end, not a cigarette.
Neither of which objects are probably found in today's office settings, by the way, but this was a while ago.
And then the person, their skin would show, it would erupt in a burn reaction because they thought it was a burn.
So the mind is very powerful, but if that is to account for some of what we saw, then that's very frightening because the power of false authority in the medical system and the media's demanded obedience to that false authority is far more powerful than most people realize.
What are your thoughts?
Well, I think this plays right into what we're experiencing right now in 2024 with disease X and everyone being so afraid that they're, quote, going to release another bioweapon upon the masses.
And again, the manifestation of symptoms, especially when in a heightened state of fear, is a real thing.
What we teach during the end of COVID, especially in three of the last four modules, is we go into great detail on the brilliance of the human body and the understanding that there is nothing out there to be afraid of.
Yes, they're poisoning us via various mechanisms, but once we become aware of those things, we can maintain health.
And then also the understanding that symptoms of illness in and of themselves aren't bad.
It's your body doing exactly what it was designed to do to heal.
We become so afraid, even in the natural health community, of experiencing symptoms that we take supplements or other things to sort of suppress them.
And we think that it's better because it's more natural.
But the reality is it's a complete paradigm shift that we need to have.
And I'm not saying that all supplements are bad.
The point is that, It's an internal paradigm shift that we're leading people to with the end of COVID and understanding that your body is a brilliant, intelligently designed vessel that knows exactly what it's supposed to do and has everything that it needs internally given the right environment and right nutrients to heal.
And that symptoms of illness are not bad in and of themselves.
Again, that's your body doing exactly what it was designed to do to heal.
So that's something that we lead people to at the end of COVID. It's really free of fear mongering.
It's actually intended to dissolve fear that is widespread amongst much of the health freedom crowd right now.
Can I add one thing on that too?
The other thing, too, is that, yes, we do have massive deficiencies in the modern era, especially with, like, talk about cell salts.
We talk about minerals.
Like, we don't have those anymore in our food because of mass ag, right?
Those supplements, like you sell, Mike, and other companies, our company, are extremely important because we are naturally deficient, so our bodies can't go through this natural progression of, like, the pleomorphic cycle, for instance, in our inner milieu, right?
The endogenous good bacteria that's in us that is often mistaken as a bacterial infection.
Well, that infection, oftentimes, if it gets out of hand, isn't from an exogenous attacking vector of this evil bacteria.
It's because we are deficient.
And unable to finish that natural cycle.
That's the same with cancer today.
That's the same with so many things that ail us.
And it's just a simple understanding of how this biomachine works, right?
It's going back to base mechanics of who we are and what we are.
Well, absolutely.
And that reminds me, and I'd like to get both your thoughts on this, but in retrospect, there was an earlier pilot program for COVID, and it was the AIDS epidemic.
Right?
AIDS. And there was a time, I think it was in the late 1980s and early 90s, when they said AIDS was responsible for everything.
AIDS was responsible for me staying a virgin, I'll tell you that.
Is that right?
I'm sorry to hear that.
I was so deathly scared of AIDS. Are you kidding me?
Growing up as a kid in the 80s and a huge fan of Magic Johnson?
I mean, I grew up in LA as a Lakers fan, right?
So when they rolled out Magic Johnson has AIDS when I was in 7th or 8th grade, I was like, I am never having sex.
Well, see, but that was part of the AIDS scare story.
story.
They were even saying that, you know, hetero couples who were monogamous were going to get AIDS somehow, like, which totally violates the whole transmission theory.
But just, you know, like a husband and wife having sex every day, like AIDS was just going to spontaneously emerge between the sheets of their bed or whatever.
And it's like, what's going on?
Because, I mean, remember the CDC got massive funding in response to spreading the AIDS scare stories.
And I don't know if you recall, but the drugs, and Fauci was involved in this, but the AZT drugs that were pushed to treat AIDS caused the symptoms that were diagnosed as AIDS. Right?
So kind of like the COVID vaccines today.
And the other thing that you should note, I don't know if you recall this, but I mean, I was in high school during the AIDS pandemic, so I vividly recall a lot of the scare stories.
But the other thing was that the AIDS tests...
They were not biochemical or physiological tests alone.
They had questions.
They would ask questions.
How many sex partners do you have?
Do you use intravenous needles?
Are you a drug addict?
What's your lifestyle like?
You're like, wait a second.
I thought this was supposed to be scientific.
I thought you're going to see something under a microscope.
There's AIDS! We found it!
Instead of begging the question right out of the gates.
Yeah.
So it turns out that just like PCR with COVID, AIDS tests were bullshit the entire time.
Well, it relates directly to what happened during COVID, just as you said.
And we have a whole session on HIV-AIDS showing that what happened in 2020 is not new whatsoever.
And likewise, this idea that the sort of no virus virus Uh, side of things is a new thing is completely untrue as well.
During HIV AIDS, there was a huge dissident movement called the Perth Group that highlighted that HIV was never proven to exist.
So there is some sort of a split between the group, but nonetheless, the HIV was never proven to be the cause of AIDS. And then many were saying that HIV was never proven to exist whatsoever.
So this is not a new thing whatsoever.
Right, right.
But isn't it interesting that Fauci was involved in both of these things?
Absolutely.
A lot of the same arguments.
If you did not believe the narrative of AIDS, you were called an AIDS denier, right?
Or you were called unscientific.
I mean, it just goes to show, Mike, how important the end of COVID is because we don't learn from our mistakes from going down these paths.
They'll just redo it again.
They're just going to keep repeat, rinse, repeat, you know.
Yeah, well, exactly.
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I will say on the AIDS thing, too, real quick, Mike, there's an environmental factor that they always will...
You use as well.
So obviously, AIDS came out of the gay population in New York, San Francisco.
They were engaging in a lot of, let's just say, proclivities towards partying and heavy drug use.
And of course, you had the anal nitrates or whatever, the poppers.
Same thing with COVID. You start Wuhan, which is one of the most polluted places on the planet.
People are eating GMO foods.
They're heavily vaccinated.
They've got 5G rolled out.
These are very toxic individuals in a very toxic place.
That's just another thing.
Of course, we always stress with terrain medicine is the environment is extremely important.
They know this.
They know what they're doing.
When I say they, I'm talking about The conspirators that are using this to push their agenda.
And we talk about that in the end of COVID. We don't shy away from conspiracy in this either because that's an important aspect.
So we dip into the sort of the WEFers, as I call them, the WEF and the Agenda 2030 and transhumanism and the technocratic takeover, the death of the dollar, all of that It's a massive part of all this as well.
Well, right.
And importantly, and I know you know this, but just reminding our audience that there are laws and policies that are formed around these belief systems in scientism.
For example, I believe for many years in California, it was a felony to be a person who was diagnosed with AIDS, whatever that fake diagnosis happened to be.
And then if you had sex and you did not inform your sex partner, I believe you could be criminally prosecuted For giving them AIDS, even though there could be no proof whatsoever that such a transmission even happened.
And wasn't that law just kind of recently overturned in the last couple of years, by the way?
Does that ring a bell?
Yeah, of course.
I remember that quite well as a Californian and just more fear, right?
And we saw that with COVID, right?
You're going to kill grandma, right?
I mean, it was such an insipid fear tactic about how, and that's the thing about germ theory in the end, is even if you take sort of like, I recently heard on a podcast someone saying, well, in a voluntarist society, germ theory wouldn't matter, but actually it's such an insipid evil concept because even in a voluntarist society where, you know, to do no harm, well, you can't help doing no harm if you're breathing, right?
You're breathing microscopic terrorists.
What are you supposed to do?
Well, wear a mask.
Well, that's ridiculous.
So don't leave your house.
So then what's next?
I mean, if you just take that down to its final endpoint, it's being a virtual world outside of nature with a headset on.
Living in complete separation in a digital realm, which is where they want this to go.
That's right.
I mean, the ultimate lockdown.
But let me share something else with you from my lab that's relevant to all this, and then I want to ask for both your reactions.
But early on during COVID, we are an ISO-accredited laboratory, so we're able to purchase standards.
And we buy standards for our ICP testing, which is elemental analysis, heavy metals.
We buy standards of glyphosate for herbicide testing.
We buy standards.
We handle standards all the time.
So we tried to buy a standard of SARS-CoV-2.
And we looked at all the labs, and we found, finally, one lab that offered something called the SARS-CoV-2 isolate test.
And I'm like, great!
They're going to ship us a vial of nothing but particles of SARS-CoV-2.
And then you read the description of what is their isolate, okay?
And it's filled with, like, cow blood serum...
And I forgot all the animals.
And even they give a description of how they got this isolate in the first place.
Turns out they took a lady, a Chinese lady that came off a flight from China, landed in Seattle.
She was symptomatic, so they gathered her snot.
And then they put it in with a bunch of cow serum and who knows, like human fetal cells, and then they said that's an isolate.
Seriously.
I mean, that's how junkified the science is.
It's a clown show.
That's not an isolate.
Nobody ever identified that there was any COVID in the vial, and it's certainly not isolated.
But they call it an isolate.
Are you surprised to hear that?
Can I just say one thing?
I thought they were going to send you a floppy disk.
I guess they could just send it through the cloud now.
Well, yeah, you can just download the sequences now on the PCR, yeah.
Exactly.
It's just, it's a library now.
It's not even real.
In silico nonsense.
Well, and that's why this is so important, if I may, real quick, because...
I and several other people, Dr.
Mark Bailey, Dr.
Tom Cowan, Dr.
Andy Kaufman, a bunch of people that we feature during the end of COVID have had conversations with virologists and molecular biologists, and even some of them are starting to agree that the process by which they, quote, isolate viruses has its flaws.
So what they're doing is they're just moving beyond that and moving into this whole space of metagenomics and And that is highly relevant.
And we cover that extensively as well during the end of COVID. And it all goes back to, very simply, we learned this in elementary school, I think.
If you say that X exists and causes Y, this is simple logic.
Then you need proof.
You need evidence that X exists and causes Y. You can't point to Y, all these effects, symptoms of illness, any of these things that we refer to as proof of X absent of actually directly observing and seeing X cause Y. And that's what they're doing with virology.
And then they're just expanding upon it.
And when you bring up Virus isolation, as you might imagine, we have a whole session devoted to that showing that just as you said, Mike, they take snot from a sick person that is assumed to contain a virus, mix it with viral transport medium, which contains at a minimum antibiotics and antimicotics, and then put it on a monkey kidney cell or another foreign cell line with all these other substances.
And then the cell breaks down after it's been effectively starved and poisoned, and then they take the resultant particles and prepare them for electron microscopy, which involves its own – has its own issues and produces countless artifacts.
We don't even know what we're looking at really when it comes to electron microscopy of biological material, let alone something that has gone through what was just shared, right?
So we cover all of that.
They murder the cells.
They're looking at the – The dead membranes of cells, and they're saying, there's the virus.
And I say, that's snot science, actually.
That's the way I describe it.
But it does bring up the question, though, beyond psychosomatic explanations, and I'm not sure that I'm not convinced that that could account for all the things that people experience, especially those of us who are really independent thinkers, who are not gullible, who are not eager to be manipulated.
And I always told myself with COVID, I'm like...
I don't care if I'm, quote, exposed.
I know I can beat it.
It's no big deal.
And yet, at some point, I did become symptomatic, you know, extreme fatigue, more than I'd ever experienced before, and back pain and loss of cognition for some period of time.
Those symptoms, you can't convince me that I was making those real because I was watching the news.
I know the news is fake.
So, I mean, is there another explanation for those of us who are independent-minded people?
Well, I'll just say this though, I'm sure you were emotionally broken down.
I know I was going through a lot of same sort of emotions on what is going on, what's going on with the world, what's going on, how do I protect my family?
So I believe, and yeah, I think we have to be honest with ourselves.
There's one thing to have the intelligence and understanding, but then are we emotionally tapped in, spiritually tapped in to understand the effects of something on a worldwide scale of this sort?
How they affect freedom fighters like us, people that are out on the front lines, we're going to have probably a pretty immense breakdown of some sort, and that would make sense to be fatigued.
That would make sense to get broken down emotionally.
Yeah, but this is not my first rodeo, man.
I've been doing this for two decades.
I've seen crazy stuff before.
For a lot of people, this was the first big thing they've ever experienced, you know?
Yeah.
COVID was pretty crazy, though, Mike.
I don't know.
I mean, 9-11 was pretty...
The closest thing I think I could maybe relate to COVID was maybe 9-11.
I mean, I don't know in my life, I'm 45 now, that I ever experienced a mass-wide lockdown of the world where we had a lockstep governmental reaction all in sync together and also then, like, synced up with the local system where you're not allowed to go into businesses.
I mean, this was...
I still think people are coming to grips with what happened.
How immense and amazing and how crazy 2020-2021 really was.
How historical it was.
Especially, once again, in the modern times when we're so connected.
But yes, I believe there very well were government ops.
Being run in certain localities.
And if you are at the tip of the spear, very much we must remember there are energetic weapons that can be put into play and target individuals.
There are all sorts of factors that can be put into play in terms of nefarious characters and what they're doing to make this happen.
And obviously, you're pretty well known, Mike, so you very well could have been targeted.
I do agree with that.
There's no question.
I have been relentlessly targeted.
Regardless of the explanation, let me bring up something else.
We only have a few minutes left.
Another truly remarkable moment in all of this was after we were all, it was demanded of us that we believe in the science and we believe in the pandemic and everything else.
And we believe in the jabs and believe in the masks and the lockdowns.
And then at some point it came out that, oh yeah, well the vaccines don't prevent transmission anymore.
And don't prevent infection.
And how could they?
It's a respiratory virus, but the vaccine injection goes in your arm.
Your arm is not your lung.
So, I mean, how could it possibly?
And the establishment admitted that all the claims of the vaccines were just fiction anyway.
It's like, at that point, how come the whole world didn't say, well, why are we following any of this crap?
But people still do.
People still line up and take boosters.
What do you think, Alec?
I think it's unbelievable.
I mean, but it's also not surprising because people are so immersed in that false paradigm of health that they think that that's the way that they maintain their health is by going and lining up for these things.
And with the end of COVID, our target audience, if I'm being honest, is not those people.
But we have had feedback From people who shared it with their friends, one case where a story was told to us where some Harvard leftist academic types were fully on board with the whole narrative and then were sent to the end of COVID and they watched it front to back and called their friends a couple weeks later and said, oh my goodness, you were correct.
You were correct this whole time because the way that we lay it out is very, very clear.
It builds context upon context upon context.
And our target audience in this, though, is much of the freedom movement who is still buying into this belief that they're manipulating viruses in a lab.
And, of course, have still all these questions that arise as you're asking here regarding loss of taste and smell.
We have a whole session devoted to that called The Symptoms of COVID, where we discuss loss of taste and smell extensively and highlight how there are plenty, not just psychosomatically, plenty of other plausible explanations available.
For this phenomenon and the various other phenomena associated with this illness.
And then, of course, the questions of how do you explain Sally getting sick right after Jack or my kids getting sick in daycare?
How do you explain chickenpox or measles or things like this?
We have whole sessions devoted to all of those topics to cover every single question that one could ask related to both COVID and the idea that the germ paradigm is completely false.
Well, that's really great to know because that means that for those watching, you might invite another person to watch it with you, you know?
Or if you buy the digital download, you could give them a thumb drive and say, like, watch this, you know?
See what you think.
See if they get through episode one, you know?
Their eyes might be open.
Now, I've interviewed Tom Cowan and Dr.
Kaufman also here as well.
And in the interviews, I couldn't disagree with anything that they said.
I mean, very methodical, logical, step-by-step analysis and explanation.
And yet there is this rift in the health freedom movement, like you said, where certain individuals are 100% gung-ho germ theory and arguing with Cowan and others about it.
I hope that we can have more rigorous public debates about this, but with Cowan and Kauffman in particular, do you agree with my assessment that they're just very rational and logical?
They're not pulling things out of thin air.
They're actually demanding, let's use rules of logic here.
So I'll go ahead and jump in and answer that.
And I think that they're the most rational and logical people that I know.
Andy Kaufman and Tom Cowan are two of the brightest human beings I know.
And the reality is, like Mike, like me, we just want to know what is true.
We're setting aside all of our preconceived notions.
You know, my wife reversed two autoimmune conditions, and we previously thought that her autoimmune conditions were caused by, quote, Epstein-Barr virus.
So we had skin in the game, so to speak, in thinking that the viral paradigm is real.
But when you simply set aside your preconceived notions and then, of course, learn logical fallacies and learn that pointing to effects as proof of the cause, absent of establishing a causal relationship and absent of establishing existence, is called an affirming absent of establishing a causal relationship and absent of establishing existence, is called an
And when you learn those things, you learn logic and reasoning and you set all that aside, in my opinion, you can really only come to one conclusion about the so-called evidence of virology.
Again, irrespective of whether you believe and sort of emphasizing believe that they exist or not, the evidence for viruses is just not there when you go look.
And I think Tom and Andy are incredible in uncovering that.
Yeah, I would agree with that assessment.
Mike, any final thoughts you want to add?
I mean, yeah, talk about rigorous, too.
I mean, Andy's read every single scientific paper out there about this topic.
I mean, he is no joke.
I will say this.
Um...
I don't believe that, well, one, it's germ theory.
There's no theory because there's not been the proper tests to actually formulate it as a theory.
It's just essentially the germ warfare model that they've created, germ propaganda.
I also don't believe that it's terrain theory.
That's like saying, I do farm theory.
No, I just farm.
I just understand health.
Health is based on the terrain.
We have a terrain.
And I'll just say this.
Some might say this is anecdotal, but if you look at the communities that have really embraced this mindset, like I do a festival called Music and Sky.
We started in 2020, and we're going on our sixth event now in 2024.
Just announced today, actually, June 20th through the 24th in Mendocino, California.
But that was a huge factor, Mike, when we started in 2020, in the heart of the lockdowns of California, we said, no, we're going to do a festival.
We're not going to do six feet apart.
We're not going to do masks.
We're going to actually ask people, you know, you can do whatever you want, but nobody wore masks.
Nobody was concerned about getting sick, and nobody got sick.
And now we are, fast forward five years later, essentially...
Four years later.
And our community is thriving because people are understanding this.
It's not even just about not rolling up your sleeve.
It's about understanding who you are, what the true nature of disease is, and what true health is, and what happiness is.
And then you pair that with your average, I hate to say this, but libtard, scientism advocate in the cult.
And most of them aren't doing well.
They're having to pay an inordinate amount of money to go to doctors.
Or they're dead.
A lot of them are already dead.
We're dead.
Yeah.
So they're not doing well.
So you can call that anecdotal.
I say, and Dr.
Bear is a big fan, my partner at Alpha Vedic, we go with what works, right?
And I tell you what, I've known this for 20 years or more, and I don't get sick anymore.
And I don't even like to use that word sick.
I might have an occasional composting in the winter, we like to call it.
But I haven't even had that this year.
So life's pretty good when you're on this side.
So just take it from me, like going through the university at the end of COVID, you'll come out on the other end, at least understanding a lot more about yourself.
And I guarantee you're going to be moving down towards the path of greater wellness and more happiness.
Yeah, well, exactly.
Well said.
All right, folks.
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