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Dec. 20, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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NEUROHACKING EXPOSED! Dr. Michael Nehls reveals how the global mind manipulation psyop works
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and today we have a very special guest, a first-time guest, an author of a fascinating new book that you'll want to check out.
It's called The Indoctrinated Brain.
His name is Michael Nels, MD and PhD, so I should be referring to him as Dr.
Nels.
He joins us from Germany.
He's the author of this fantastic book, and he has a lot to tell us about the attacks on our mental health that are being pushed by the establishment, governments, as well as media and other institutions, education in particular, that's actually causing us to be less and less sane.
That's not a good thing.
Mass mental illness is running amok across the world.
So welcome, Dr.
Nels.
It's an honor to have you on today, sir.
Thank you for joining me.
Hello, Mike.
I'm very pleased that you invited me.
Thank you very much.
I'm thrilled to have you on because right now at this moment in human history, I feel like mental health has never been under such an extreme attack.
In fact, I think that in our childhood, we never could have imagined the scale of attack on our mental health where they're telling us that men can have babies and up is down and left is right and all these things.
Do you agree with that characterization?
Absolutely.
I mean, I was seeing the attack on the human brain indirectly by the health policy in the last decades, but what we have observed in 2020 and even further, even worse actually, with the mRNA injection program in 2021 when it started, it became totally clear this is a real major attack on the human mental immune system.
Oh, that's a really interesting phrase.
Yeah, the human mental immune system, is that the ability to have discernment and to reject crazy ideas or to reject manipulation of our thoughts and moods?
Yeah, actually to think at all.
I mean, the mental immune system consists of human curiosity.
It consists of the ability to think.
The ability to have memories, an autobiographical memory, which gives us information from past events, which we can use to calculate future action.
And the sum of that is our mental immune system.
I mean, that we react in the best way possible in a situation.
You see, I come from two different directions from my background.
I did my PhD work in molecular genetics with a focus on immunology.
But then I started to work for about 15 years on the autobiographical memory center in our brain.
And if you look from the outside, the evolutionary imperative is be fruitful and multiply.
You see it also in another book.
It's written down there.
But it's also the evolutionary imperative.
And to multiply, you have to survive first.
And to survive, you have to have an immune system.
And most people only think about our physical immune system consisting of the immune cells.
But this immune system is only against pathogenic microorganisms.
What I'm talking about is pathogenic microorganisms.
Usually they come on two legs.
And for the immune system against the microorganisms, they usually react with thinking, with planning, with the help of our community.
And so I call this the mental immune system.
And if you want to localize the mental immune system, it's right in our autobiographical memory center.
That is really fascinating because our perception of the world around us depends on our memory of who we are and how we got here.
And in essence, I think we tend to, of course, project onto the world ideas that are consistent with our own memories.
Isn't it astonishing?
And we've seen this with even, let's say, police lineups where there's a so-called eyewitness to a crime scene and the eyewitness is given, you know, which one of these seven people committed the crime.
And we've learned that even our own memories can be very strongly manipulated, if not wholesale, you know, mind-wiped, if I could use that term, to where people can be given false memories or real memories can be deleted.
And I call these...
Either positive or negative hallucinations.
I don't know what term you use, but I say, you know, negative hallucinations are when you are deleting things in the world around you, and positive hallucinations are when you are mentally adding things to the world around you.
But the establishment is, they've become experts in making us hallucinate in both of those ways.
Yeah, actually that's what's happening, and it happens in a very, I would say, intelligent way.
So knowing how the autobiographical memory center works and how it is actually able to create what I call the mental immune system, the attack is right there based on the measurements that we have to endure in 2020.
They all essentially caused a breakdown of the mental immune system, and now it becomes essentially a permanent problem with the mRNA injections because they really cause the autobiographical memory center to lose its function.
And the long-term, essentially, consequence of that is that the narratives become a new part of your, essentially, overcome your Your individuality is essentially erased and the narratives become your new personality.
Wow!
I mean, you're talking about people being what I call PLFs, programmable life forms.
You're saying they're given a script, new programming that overwrites their own sense of self-identity.
That's exactly what I'm describing in my book, yeah.
Wow!
So, at that point then, these individuals just begin to, what, regurgitate the narratives that they're programmed with and they lose all self-identity?
Yeah, that's a long-term, essentially, consequence of the process that I'm describing.
And you already realize that when people are essentially already indoctrinated by certain narratives, I've seen it in my family, you see it probably everywhere, you cannot talk about the content of these narratives anymore in a scientific way.
You cannot argue against or for anything.
Essentially, the discussion itself becomes a problem because it's almost like you step onto one's toes when you just start discussing anything.
I've seen that in my family, and I couldn't explain it first.
But with the discovery I've made, which I publish now in my book, it becomes really clear.
These narratives become part of their new personality, and nobody wants their personality to be put into question.
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
And of course, I think there's a well-known psychological phenomenon where people tend to act in a way that is consistent with their previous statements or their previous positions, right?
So no one wants to admit they were wrong.
So even if their current position becomes increasingly revealed as absurd, they will stick with it and they will justify it because it's consistent with things they've said before.
And I think climate change is probably one of the best examples of this.
I can talk to us about the climate, well I call it a climate cult, but many people who are pushing the climate change agenda, they are utterly immune to any reason or logic when discussing things like photosynthesis or the role of carbon dioxide in plant biology, for example.
They block it off, like psychologically, they can't even let that thought into their brain.
Can you talk about this?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, all the wars we are fighting at the moment, I mean, it was first and foremost the war against a pandemic virus, and then it was a war against climate change, then we have wars over borders, always with the potential to be world wars.
All these wars have narratives, and with the decline of the mental immune system, which I'm describing, people are essentially In a situation where they have no choice but essentially install these narratives into their brain because that's what they're hearing in the main news all the time.
That's what they're used to learn and what enters their brain because the autobiographical memory center regards information as necessary to be stored when they come up with emotions and all these wars Wow.
Wow.
Now, I'd like to ask you, well, first of all, let me remind our audience about your book.
It's called The Indoctrinated Brain.
It's available, it's on Audible and Amazon, and it's available in multiple languages as well.
It's on other booksellers.
The Indoctrinated Brain: How to Successfully Fend Off the Global Attack on Your Mental Freedom by Dr. Michael Nels, who is our guest today.
And also, let me mention Michael's website.
It's michael-nels.com if you want to find out more information about his website.
But let me ask you, Dr. Nels, Nels, then, it seems like the role of the media is to reinforce the programming rather than to inform people, to manipulate people, and to make sure that their mental immune system, as you describe it, never is allowed a chance to take a breath and operate and rethink things.
It's like this constant bombardment of narratives.
It overwhelms the system.
Absolutely.
You have to understand.
The major target of the autobiographical memory center is the production of new nerve cells.
You have to imagine that we can become very old, essentially 100, 120 years old.
The oldest woman who was ever alive was 122 years old, without having Alzheimer's, by the way.
So you can memorize things over hundreds of years, but the autobiographical memory center is a very small part of your brain.
So in order to To grow your wealth of experience, it actually has to grow itself.
And it does.
It produces new nerve cells on a daily basis.
And these new nerve cells are essentially the neuronal correlate of curiosity and of our ability to think, and also of our ability to memorize new things without erasing previous memories.
So that's a requirement that our autobiography and memory can actually grow over a whole lifetime.
But what we have seen in 2020, in particular with the mRNA, which is neurotoxic, the production of these nerve cells is essentially undermined, completely blocked.
So, if new memories now have to be stored and they come with fear, with narratives, then they have to override the previous memories, memories maybe from your childhood, memories from things you have learned in the past, even thoughts you might have had years or days before.
So, but In order to really overwrite everything in the long term, you have to change essentially the story on a daily basis because the memory center actually has a shape of a seahorse, that's why it's called hippocampus.
And so I want to refer to it as the hippocampus.
The hippocampus learns only new things if they come, only things if they are new and come with emotion.
So changing essentially the story, even what we have experienced in 2020, which really made me It gave me strange feelings at the time.
You have to imagine.
We know that everything was very well planned ahead.
Lots of documents would show everything was extremely well planned ahead.
I mean, they even had the injection program ready for billions of people in the years, just in a year, which is actually unbelievable from a scientific point of view.
Well, I mean, it's amazing how fast you can move when you skip all clinical trials, of course.
You still have to produce the stuff, you know?
So anyway, but this was all very well planned ahead.
But then in 2020, when you listen to the politicians, either in the United States or in Germany, on a daily basis, the story was changed.
You know, the rules were changed on a daily basis.
And so it was almost like they didn't know what they were doing.
But from a viewpoint of the hippocampus, it's actually the best way to indoctrinate people is to change the story every day.
Wow.
So that you force the hippocampus to learn the narratives in all variants.
And the more the hippocampus learns in a situation where the new neurons are not produced either by the measurements or by the neurotoxin, which is the spike protein, then, of course, you override essentially all previous memories in the long run.
Wow.
Wait a second, Dr.
Nels, what you are describing here, I mean, this is astonishing.
I need to step back and try to grasp this myself and share it with the audience.
You're talking about a level of neurohacking that is very sophisticated.
Absolutely.
It's not just random, oh, here's a narrative, believe it.
But rather, you're just talking about a mechanism where the hippocampus is forced to process changing narratives, some of which may be contradictory, as a way to sort of force the mind wipe of the autobiographical self, as you call it, as a way to sort of force the mind wipe of the autobiographical self, as you call it, I mean, this is almost like science fiction, what you're describing.
Yeah, it sounds like, but you have to imagine, there's a great reset going on all the time.
All the documents we can see, even in the government, points to the year 2030, where we have to live in smart cities, ruled by artificial intelligence.
And this is all so far away from what humans really like to live, you know?
And it's so far from From human that this new operating system under which society has to live, I actually call it the social operating system, SOS, like Save Our Souls.
And this new operating system can only be installed, like with a computer, when you install a new operating system, you have to erase the previous one, so there's no contradictory rules in the program.
And that's exactly what's happening.
You erase, essentially, the memories of the people step by step, and it doesn't matter if the narratives are contradictory.
The only, let's say, The result has to be that the human individual can only remember fearful narratives which always come with global problems that only a global government can essentially solve.
And that's exactly what the reset is going to achieve, is that we accept a global government that rules us in a way that no normal human would actually accept.
Okay, this is horrifying and fascinating.
Let me ask you this technical question then about the hijacking of human neurology.
How does this PSYOP, I'll call it, achieve selective memory deletion?
For example, in the early days of COVID, we were told two weeks to flatten the curve.
That if we would lock down for two weeks...
Everything will be fine.
And then, of course, it became more than two weeks, and then it became masks, and then the first jab came out.
And we were told, this jab is 95% effective, and if everybody takes it, or even if some people take it, this thing is going to be done with.
It's going to be over.
And a lot of people lined up to take it.
But then as things progress, it's like, well, that jab didn't work.
Here's a new one.
This one will work.
And then, well, that one's not effective.
You need this booster and that booster and this booster.
And you're like, what about two weeks to flatten the curve?
Oh, we don't talk about that anymore.
How is this selective memory deletion accomplished that allows them to boil people like frogs, where they're always turning up the heat, they're moving you in a direction gradually, but they're making you forget the initial promises that turned out to be a complete fraud?
Yeah, this example is actually in the book with the frog.
But the point is, it's a two-step process, essentially.
The first step is you have to plug the production of the new nerve cells into hippocampus.
The process, actually, scientifically is called adult because it's the only region in the brain that can produce new nerve cells, even if we are grown up.
Everything else stops.
A new production of nerve cells stops when we are about 25 years old.
But the hippocampus, based on the fact that we have to grow our wealth of experience over a whole lifetime, has to produce new nerve cells.
So it happens in the adult world.
And it happens in the hippocampus, and the process itself is called neurogenesis as a neuron, and genesis means birth of neurons.
So we have the adult hippocampal neurogenesis.
The first step in this process of indoctrination means you have to stop this production.
You have to undermine or block the production of these new nerve cells.
And to give you one example out of the book, how this can be accomplished, So in 2002 and 2003, SARS-CoV-1 tried to make a pandemic.
It's the predecessor of SARS-CoV-2, which we experienced at the end of 2019 and mainly in 2020.
So this virus was shown in papers in 2006 and 2007 that the spike protein creates a neuroinflammatory process in the brain and thereby releasing cytokines, pro-inflammatory cytokines like interleukin-1 and interleukin-6 and others.
And just to give you an example, if you inject interleukin-1 into a mouse, the production of nerve cells in the hippocampus is completely shut down.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
So we knew already that the spike protein can do that.
Now, if you really want to make sure that enough spike protein goes into the brain, you have to modify it.
Normal spike protein doesn't really go into the brain very well, but with the furene cleavage side, which was introduced, you get the S1 subunit.
And the S1 subunit It's perfectly adapted to cross the blood-brain barrier and enter the matter of the brain.
And there it was shown that it activates the immune cells which preside in the brain.
This is a cytokine storm attack on neurology.
Exactly.
You have a neuroinflammation, and the neuroinflammation leads to a blockade of the production of these new nerve cells.
These new nerve cells have certain functions.
First of all, the main function is curiosity.
The second function is the ability to think.
And the third function is that they are the neuronal correlate of our psychological resilience.
That means when you block the production, you can steer people with fear.
You can actually make everything with them because the fear is very strong.
The consequence clinically is the high depression rates.
So if you lower the production of these nerve cells, psychological resilience goes down.
And if psychological resilience goes down, then you are prone to depression.
Actually, every antidepressant in the world has only one function, activate the adult hippocampal neurogenesis.
Wow.
Okay, Dr.
Niles, this is astonishing.
Now, in retrospect, I wish we would have spoken with you a year or two ago, but I guess your book just came out, so the timing is good, and I'm so glad you're saying this today, because myself and many others have observed that Personality changes in people who took these jabs.
I mean, strong personality changes.
The way I used to describe it, and I've covered this many times in my podcast, is that, yes, they lost the higher functions that tend to make us more human, that they reverted to more animalistic or the reptilian brainstem type of functions, which is ruled by fear, attracted to violence and lust, Also, for some reason, attracted to a lot more money and power.
Just very animalistic types of things, but they've lost higher discernment and reasoning.
And I even jokingly said before that the number one way to get people to take the second vaccine is to have them take the first vaccine.
Because at that point, they can no longer reason that they shouldn't take the second vaccine.
I mean, I've said that before, but you're explaining the mechanism now.
Yeah, you're completely right.
I mean, there was a Nobel Prize in 2002 given to Daniel Kahneman and Bernard Smith in economics.
And it was actually a work on psychology.
And he showed that the ability to think rationally or laterally requires mental energy.
And I have shown that this mental energy lies in the production of these new nerve cells.
So, in order to suppress, essentially, our, let's say, resentments, our behavior that is not socially accepted, we need this energy.
And if this energy is lost because you have no production of these nerve cells, then people actually behave more reptile-like, if you want.
Yes, yes.
It makes total sense.
We've seen this even in people reacting to new information.
People who took the vaccines, I've noticed, will tend to become very angry more easily when presented with new information about, oh, here's new data showing harms of the vaccines, or here's new data showing the inflammation response caused by this, and so on.
I've seen many people react in a very strong, emotionally charged manner Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So, I mean, we're talking about real hacking, reprogramming the neurology of human beings.
Yeah.
And the clinical consequence that we can observe is the increased depression rates and the accelerated development of Alzheimer's disease.
So, for example, in Germany, in 2021, there was a survey of the German Alzheimer's Society, and compared to 2018, when the last survey was done, we have an increase of new cases of Alzheimer's in Germany by 31%.
Unbelievable.
And I have published a paper in 2016 called The Unified Theory of Alzheimer's Disease, And in this paper, I show that Alzheimer's is caused by a lack of production of new nerve cells in the hippocampus.
Wow.
Oh, I want to read that paper.
Can you send that to our producers?
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Okay.
It's a publication, pretty big, because I show that the process can also be reversed.
See, that's critical.
Right.
Okay, so you're talking about neurogenesis as one of the keys to reversing Alzheimer's.
Yeah, in the early stage.
That was shown now.
In the early stage of Alzheimer's, when the disease is mainly focused on the hippocampus, I also call it hippocampal dementia, Because compared to vasculate dementia, which comes from stroke and other problems, arteriosclerosis and so forth.
But the hippocampal dementia or Alzheimer's disease, in the very early stages, Can be reversed because there's this potential of reactivating the neurogenesis process.
Does this mean that Joe Biden might have a chance in 2024?
Could we help that man?
Yeah, I'll show you my paper.
Yeah, let's get him to...
It's actually in there how it has to be done and it was shown that it works.
Well, let me ask you then a question related to that, and then I want to get to solutions because I know our audience wants to know how they protect themselves from all of this neuro-hijacking, and I know your book covers that, but let me ask you a personal question.
I have this on my desk, this Rubik's Cube, because, well, let me back up.
I'm in my mid-50s, and I've been practicing really outstanding nutrition for two decades, including many nutrients such as lion's mane, nutrients that are associated with neurogenesis, by the way.
And I can tell you, my brain works so much better today in my mid-50s than it ever did in my 20s.
There's no comparison.
I mean, you know, I run a mass spec laboratory.
You know, I've learned mass spectrometry.
I'm about to be trained on gas chromatography, triple quad mass spec coming up.
And I started picking this up, and I mastered the cube, and I do solves now in under a minute, and I've memorized all these algorithms in order to do cube solves, and it's become a little bit of an obsession.
I do it during breaks, and it's become a little bit annoying.
But then, now I'm studying AI systems, linguistic large language models, and I'm writing code and learning language models, and it's all making sense.
And I have to tell you, doctor, in my 20s, that never would have been possible.
I was in college.
My learning was nowhere near what it is right now.
So is that consistent with what you're saying, that the hippocampus can be properly cultivated to grow new cells and new learning at any age?
I have experienced with friends who I've shown what they need to do.
I call it the formula for a strong hippocampus, a formula against Alzheimer's and depression.
In the new book now, it's the formula against indoctrination.
In this formula, I show what needs to be done, and it looks like you do everything what needs to be done.
The world is different.
I mean, if your hippocampus works, then you are curious, you are excited to learn, you wake up in the morning and you want to learn things because these nerve cells really want to make you learn things because otherwise they wouldn't survive.
They're really the correlate of human curiosity.
And, of course, you have a strong resilience, psychological resilience, so you are not afraid to learn new things.
So everything comes together.
That's actually the big chance we have right now, because the more people understand how the hippocampus works, and my book shows how it does, the more people can do what you do, you know?
Well, let's talk about what are the key components of that.
I mean, and of course, I'm a food scientist, so I can start out.
I'll offer the first thing here is definitely avoid neuroinflammatory foods, right?
So I can say that.
Yeah, that's the law of the minimum and the law of the maximum.
The law of the maximum means certain things are necessary, but too much is not good.
Right, right.
MSG. Oh, excitotoxins.
I'm sorry to interrupt, but let me just throw this in and I'll turn it back over to you.
But excitotoxins.
See, for decades I have avoided aspartame and artificial sweeteners.
I also avoid seed oils such as canola oil and cottonseed oil and so on because these oils are highly inflammatory to the cardiovascular system but also to the neurological system at the same time.
But there are so many taste enhancers in the food supply.
They include yeast extract and torula yeast, and these are found in many so-called natural products as well.
Even soy sauce contains glutamate and Over the years, I've noticed I have a lot of sensitivity to glutamate, and so I completely avoid those things, which means I don't have neurological inflammation.
I don't get headaches or migraines.
I don't have brain fog, nothing of that kind.
And I sleep really, really well.
I go to sleep, and I sleep, and I dream, and man, I wake up, the brain is ready to go.
And I don't use drugs to sleep.
You know what I mean?
It's just all natural, wholesome sleep.
Yeah, that's a big part of my formula, is at least one portion of the formula contains sleep.
And sleep is actually the time when the hippocampus...
Actually, I think, actually, we have...
Sleeping is...
Let's put it the other way.
Without the need of the hippocampus to refresh and produce new nerve cells, there wouldn't be even a need for us to sleep.
Interesting.
Sleep is actually caused by the hippocampus to regenerate overnight.
Wow!
Okay, what are the other factors that people can take advantage of?
Well, one is we are social learning machines, and every time we are together with people and look into each other's eyes or we touch somebody, oxytocin is released.
And oxytocin is not only important, you know, it's at birth, it's the hormone which delivers the baby, so to speak.
It is one of the major fertilizers of the hippocampus.
It's the major hormone for producing new nerve cells in the brain.
So it helps the mother-child relationship for a lifetime because the mother, based on the oxytocin release, not only for the birth process, but also for the Because it activates the hippocampal neurogenesis, creates a situation where the mother remembers everything in detail in the first month and years.
Even prolactin, which is required for giving milk to the newborn, is an activator of neurogenesis.
If we are socially active, we activate neurogenesis.
That's why the unsocial distancing and the lockdowns have been so harmful to society.
I already realized at that time that Besides the bad food and the bad sleep, based on the horrible news you get every evening at bedtime, and of course the social isolation caused a severe increase already in depression and an acceleration of Alzheimer's, and that in turn tells us that neurogenesis was down already by these measures.
But there are also other things.
A very central part of the formula, the formula against indoctrination in my book, is a purpose in life.
Ah!
Let's talk about that, because that certainly is something that drives me, and it changes the whole perspective on reality.
If you have no purpose, life seems meaningless, and you're almost automatically depressed.
Yeah, absolutely.
There are studies out there, many of them.
If you ask if you have a purpose in life, meaning if you wake up in the morning, do you have a reason to stand up?
And if you answer, well, I have to stand up because I have to go to the toilet, but that's the only reason I have to stand up, then, of course, the likelihood that you get Alzheimer's is almost doubled.
Oh, wow.
But if you stand up and you say, I have to go out into the world today and help make the world a better place and here's my plan for doing that, then boom, you've got all this passion and drive.
Absolutely.
That's why in Chapter 7 of my book where I show that nothing is lost and actually we can become stronger actually after this war against our brain, if we realize what's going on, then one purpose in life which I ask everybody who's watching us now is be proactive.
Not just consuming this information.
Read the book and use this information to convince others even if they don't want to be convinced.
Because step by step, people will understand that what's going on, nobody is lost.
At least not most of them are lost.
I truly believe that.
And we have a majority behind us who can save the world from these technocratic ideas of governing our lives with artificial intelligence and who knows what.
Well, yeah, let's talk about AI here for a second.
I don't know if you know this, but I'm working on an AI large language model project that will be releasing open source to the public.
And in fact, one of the things, it's funny, I was talking with Skyhorse, your publisher, the other day about including Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s book, The Wuhan Cover-Up, as a training text for that language model.
And Tony Lyons there at Skyhorse said, absolutely, he gave me permission, so we're going to use that book.
I would offer the same question to you with your permission, and with Skyhorse's permission, we'd love to include your book as a training material for the language model.
But I can be very dangerous, as you know, but it can also be an amazing tool for exploration.
And so what we want to do is put out a language model that people can query and get ideas and do research and have new thinking.
But on the other side of that spectrum, the danger is that people will just get mentally lazy and they will turn to AI to write their college papers and compose their emails and do all the thinking for them.
But AIs aren't thinking.
They're actually not thinking.
They're using statistical linguistic models to fill in word patterns.
And it's not cognition.
Not yet.
It's not the same as cognition.
What are your thoughts on AI? Yeah, not yet, but it's a dangerous technology because even creativity can be encoded in such computer systems.
Because what is creativity?
It's essentially experience, our experience, and then there's a random factor that by chance you come up with an idea based on circumstantial coincidences, something that happens to you and suddenly you realize, like the famous apple, you know, that Newton brought up the idea about gravitation.
If the story is true or not, it doesn't matter.
The point is, certain accidents or situations create thoughts that are innovative.
And you can actually program artificial intelligence in a way that it creates errors and then checks the errors for novel creative ideas.
And since they are so extremely fast, they can go through millions of such permutations or mutations or errors And come up with ideas nobody had thought of, and that's the danger.
They can really outsmart us one day, and we have to be careful.
It seems to me that society is rapidly transitioning from the era of human cognition into an era of machine cognition.
And we're seeing a lot of AI agents, software agents currently being released by companies like Microsoft and Amazon and so on that will, without question, replace a lot of process-oriented white-collar jobs, which tend to require very little cognition, by the way.
But they often do rely on pattern recognition but AI systems are really good at pattern recognition.
What do you think is important for people to learn from your work and your book about remaining relevant in a world that is transitioning to more and more AI process control especially in the workplace?
I think we have to understand what humans really are.
I mean, what makes us human?
And actually, the last chapter has the heading, Try to be more human.
So, in a way, not only because of artificial intelligence, just generally, we have to understand where we come from.
And we've lost a lot of that already in the decades before 2020, based on the fact that neurogenesis was low.
Just to give you an understanding of that, In summer 2019, half a year before the corona pandemic, there was a paper published from Britain from 20,000 people that have done an MRI on their brain.
And they have identified that the hippocampus, despite its ability to grow every year by a few percent, is shrinking in the whole population.
Wow.
Wow.
So by 1.4%.
And so we have, once we are adults, we have not a growth rate of 2, 3, 4, 5% a year.
We have a shrinkage rate of 1.4%.
And that allows- Absolutely.
And it's probably accelerating now with the measures and with the injection program.
But the point is, we lose our ability to be humans because we have to have the curiosity, we have the ability to think socially, to understand that our actions here, even if they are totally empathic, That they have consequences somewhere else in the world.
And all these thoughts have to be in all humans and not just a few who think they want to rule us.
This is just...
Dr.
Nels, this is just extraordinary.
I want to invite you back.
I mean, we're almost out of time for today, but there's so much to explore here.
But I think what I need to do is just listen to your book.
I like to listen to audiobooks while I'm doing other things.
And so I'm going to get your audiobook.
I'll give it a listen, invite you back for a more in-depth discussion if you're open to that.
I'm more than happy to do that.
Okay, that would be fantastic.
In the meantime, let me just remind our audience that the book, again, is called The Indoctrinated Brain.
It's available on Amazon, Barnes& Noble, and other booksellers.
It's available now, including the audiobook version here from audible.com.
And as you can tell from our discussion here today, this book will change your perception.
But I think it can also help you...
Take back control over the goals that you have for your own cognition, your own passion for living.
As you said, the last chapter is about how to be more human.
I've actually said the same thing.
In this age of AI, the more we are human, the more we differentiate ourselves from automated systems.
And the values of being human are so important.
Compassion, empathy, morality.
And so on.
And these are difficult to codify in digital systems.
Final thoughts on that or any other topic, Dr.
Nels?
I mean, you're totally right.
I mean, if you undermine the adult hippocampal neurogenesis, then you have what Kahneman in his Nobel Prize speech said, we only have system one.
He called it system on thinking, but it's actually not thinking, it's just stereotyped behavior.
So actually, without the adult hippocampal neurogenesis, we are essentially robots.
Actually, another Nobel Prize winner, Francis Trick, who discovered the DNA, called it the zombie state or the zombie motors.
And so, we have to get out of the zombie modus.
And the advantage of reading my book is that you not only become more human when you use the information in there, you also prevent depression and Alzheimer's.
And that's, I think, is as important as well.
And that's a really important point, yeah.
And by depression, We don't mean reaching conclusions about the sad state of the world.
It's a mental state.
Yeah, right.
You're talking about a mental state.
But it's okay to recognize that many things in our world are messed up right now, and probably humanity could do a lot better than where we are.
That doesn't equal depression.
Because even that term depression has been really bastardized by the pharmaceutical industry.
Absolutely.
I personally am a pessimistic person.
I'm a pessimistic person who never gives up hope.
I would describe myself, but I'm not depressed.
Right, right, exactly.
I would describe that more as a realist, because of all the insanity in the world.
But it also seems like, and maybe we can talk about this next time, but hope is something that seems to be almost irrationally hardwired into the human consciousness.
Yeah, it is.
But hope requires that we have the ability to think, even to think positively.
And this thinking positive requires neurogenesis, and if the neurogenesis is blocked, and by simple measures we can unplug it and revive it again, and then our life becomes more cheerful, and hope comes back.
Well said.
Well, you have just explained today what I call NPCs, non-player characters.
You've heard that term?
Yeah, absolutely.
The zombies.
Yeah, the zombies, right.
NPCs.
Well, I use that term a lot, and that's what we encounter in the world.
But I'm so glad to have met you today to have this conversation and to know that here we are.
There are many of us who are actually thinking about the world in an intelligent way, and we're trying to help influence the world in a positive way and empower people with solutions, right?
Yeah, and my book delivers a diagnosis, and as an MD, I have to say, if the diagnosis is right, then the therapy will work.
Good point.
All right.
Fantastic.
Well, this is the answer, folks.
You don't need an antidepressant pill.
What you need is to be more human and find purpose in your life, and then follow this book and grow more hippocampus brain cells, and your life will completely turn around.
No joke.
Okay.
All right.
Well, thank you so much, Dr.
Nels.
It's been a pleasure speaking with you today, and I hope we can have you back.
Mike, it was a pleasure for me, too.
I hope to be back again.
Yeah.
Thank you very much.
All right.
Thank you so much.
Have a great evening there in Germany, and thank you for joining me.
Alright, thank all of you for watching as well today.
I hope you enjoyed this interview.
I mean, wow, this is so stimulating to me, intellectually, just to be able to talk with Dr.
Nels.
Now I have to absorb his book, and that's probably going to set off some other mental fireworks.
What a time to be alive, huh?
I don't know how anybody could be bored.
I don't know how anybody could really be depressed.
I don't know how anybody could sit on the couch and just watch CNN and think that that's the world.
That's crazy.
There is so much more to our reality and we've just sort of scraped the surface here today.
Much more to come.
But anyway, get the book for yourself.
It's called The Indoctrinated Brain.
How to successfully fend off the global attack on your mental freedom.
And you can find that at booksellers everywhere including audible.com and that's where I'm going to get it.
I'll download the audiobook and Start listening while I'm refueling my tractor on the ranch.
Something like that.
All right.
Thank you for watching today.
Of course, Mike Adams here, the founder of Brighteon.com, the free speech video platform.
Feel free to use it yourself.
And thank you for watching today.
Take care.
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