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Dec. 15, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Health device pioneer Pete Simonson reveals the many startling physiological benefits...
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And you may have heard me talk about that I use a, well, it's called a micro-impact plate called the Juvent system.
I've been using it since, well, since 2016.
I use it every day.
And it provides a really critical form of what you might call kinetic nutrition, in a sense, to your body, your bones, your joints, connective tissue.
And I found it to be really revolutionary, and I've introduced this to a lot of other people.
Now, we're going to be joined here in just a second by the president of Juvent, Pete Simonson, and the website is juvent.com, J-U-V-E-N-T. But I do want to disclose that since then, he has become a sponsor of Brighteon.tv, so there is that relationship.
He helps support the Brighteon.tv broadcast.
But I've got to say, this specific interview is not a specially paid interview.
This is not like a...
He didn't pay me to come on today.
I invited him on because I know that a lot of people, they were very sedentary during COVID and they're trying to restore their fitness and their health and their bone density and all these things that matter.
And I know that Pete Simonson can talk about these things because his background is in medical device engineering and he himself is quite an accomplished inventor.
So welcome to the show today, Pete.
It's great to have you on.
Thanks so much, Mike.
This is a pleasure to be here and an honor.
Well, I'm really happy to have you on.
Thank you again.
And your technology, your Juvent plate devices, which I want to show people just what it looks like.
I'm on your website.
Here it is.
Here's what the plate looks like.
minutes a day, 10 minutes per day.
I use it from 10 to 20 minutes and it's remarkable.
It is not a vibration plate with a big vibration.
It's a micro impact plate.
Can you, Pete, can you explain the difference, what this does that is not that common? - Yeah, so the difference is basically it's safe.
It's a safe way of giving skeletal metabolism, exercising skeletal metabolism without damaging the rest of the body.
And it turns out when you dig down in the science and you do that, it's a very tough task to do.
And what the team, the developers that did with you, it's really pulled it all together that allowed somebody to stand on a platform and safely get skeletal exercise to help skeletal metabolism.
And so it's very different than these high energy plates.
And we'll talk a little bit more about that later.
Because a lot of these plates just shake people way too much.
Yeah, we're showing that right now.
Whole body vibration is really kind of, can be rather violent shaking.
What you offer in contrast to that is a micro impact.
Yeah, and you know, the movement of a Juvent platform is about the height of a human hair.
That's how mild it is.
And when people get on it for the first time, they're actually underwhelmed.
But there's a reason for that because, you know, you don't have to go with the simple more is better because it's not.
And the science has shown, and we'll talk about this, how the bone can get its work done with very, very, with micro impact.
And that's a big difference.
And a lot of that is done with software, precision machining, and it has over 18 patents.
In fact, this is one of the things that really impresses me about your company.
You've also gone to great lengths to source parts from the United States.
Your product is made in the United States.
It's been engineered and designed, of course, in the United States.
I'm showing on the screen here some of what goes into it, and I understand that over the last...
What, 18 months or so, you've really expanded your production lines in the United States.
Can you talk about that for a little bit?
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, you know, we have historically been as U.S. sourced as we could be.
And when COVID was starting to kick in and I saw the supply lines getting disrupted, I said, scour our build materials list and look for anything that comes from outside.
And we found two or three really small components and we sourced the heck out of them.
And since then, we're engineering even those out to use more U.S.-based products.
But we do everything in-house, the CNC machining.
We do all the assembly, the final assembly, the development.
And even the outside stuff we do, we source that all locally as well.
Okay.
And the company, Juvent, ships, of course, from the U.S., from your facility, and you're shipping all over the world.
I take it.
That's correct.
We do.
And we're keeping up with demand because, you know, as a small manufacturer, it's a tough balancing act between supply, demand, and your capabilities.
But what we have done is...
We've taken this last year's disruption in terms of the logistical chain and we've inventoried up and we've thrown out the rule book of just-in-time inventory and really made ourselves more robust because there could be another disruption down the pike and we're ready for it this time.
And I think for your viewers, The disruption may be in the form of pharmaceutical meds, and I think we'll connect the dots on how having a juvent might help one weather that storm a little bit better.
Okay, yeah, good point.
Now, I understand you have a few slides to share with us as well.
I hope you don't mind.
I'm going to interrupt you probably constantly through these slides and ask questions or comments, but you want to start with the first one, which I think is about your background.
Yeah.
So what I did, Mike, I brought slides today that I would show to a medical doctor, PhD, ND, you know, you name it.
And I've never had anybody look at it and say, wow, that's not amazing.
And we can go through them quickly, but I encourage you to stop because I love getting questions because I want to be clear because the message is solid.
And the more you understand it, the more excited you get about it.
So my background is I have an academic background in mechanical engineering from Georgia Tech.
And I, soon after college, went into selling spinal implants.
And part of that was watching these surgeries over and over again and saying, hey, I think I can build a better mousetrap.
And I did.
And fast forward, I sold the technology back to Medtronic, and it became one of the largest selling spine systems in the world.
And I traveled the world teaching spine reps and spine surgeons in Probably 49 states and over 30 countries.
And so I was in the middle of it.
The product became so successful, Medtronic, the largest medical device maker in the world, awarded me the Technical Contributor of the Year Award.
And I'm proud of that, but the germane part of that to this is that I know how to put things in context.
And Juvent, when I first learned about it, I didn't realize how significant it was.
And it was way more than even, I think, even the founders thought.
And that's what I'd like to do today is explain that and fast forward that because there's no reason that people can't put this to work in their lives.
Okay, let's do that.
Go to the next slide.
But just what you're establishing, you know, your background is mechanical engineering and spinal implants.
So you know about the intersection of technology, mechanical phenomenon with the spinal implant.
Cord and also, you know, just the skeletal system.
And the skeletal system, I think our audience is pretty sophisticated.
They know it's not just like dead, dry bones in your body.
No, they're living tissue.
They produce blood.
They have their own metabolism.
You know, it's critical that your bones get proper, quote, exercise in order to function.
Or, I mean, look what happens when they send astronauts out to space.
The bones start, you know, dissolving away.
They can't even stand.
They can't walk when they come back to Earth, you know.
So...
You want to say anything else about the skeletal system before we move on?
Yeah, I've got a great slide on that.
But one of the things that's interesting, Mike, is after we did the spinal implants, my brother and I, we were putting together a clinic that was, well, we had put together a spinal, a biotech company that had found the source of biologically identifying the source of joint pain.
And in that, we went deep into the biotech world, and it was really an amazing wake-up call for us to see how far ahead science is ahead of medicine.
And so we were putting together a clinic that was using all this, and today we would call it a functional med clinic, but we were 12 years ahead of our time and no one knew what we were talking about.
But we started studying all these various technologies, and that's where we saw Juventus.
And we did about a month of due diligence on Juvent.
Then we started realizing, I thought, wait a minute, if I do a clinic, I can help a couple thousand people.
If I use Juvent to reverse osteoporosis, which was the goal at the time, that's 40 million people.
So we put all those projects on the back burner and said, let's focus on Juvent.
And what we didn't realize is it was the tip of the iceberg.
And the first clue we got was actually when we had a borrowed platform because the company's founder had died.
The company went dormant.
My mother was suffering from a unfused pelvic fracture, which was taking a vertical person and turning into a horizontal person stuck on opioids.
Wow.
And we said, you know, mom, why don't you try this platform?
We got it for a few weeks.
And in about two weeks, my mom went from in bed 22 hours a day to up with no cane and no pain.
Wow.
And we were like, wait a minute.
And so we had to give the platform back because it was from an osteoporosis patient.
And she went right back down.
And she called me up on the phone in a very sincere way.
She said, Peter, I don't know what you're doing with that company, but I need one of those platforms.
And so I said, Mom, will they still build them anymore?
And I scoured for weeks and found one in Canada from a guy whose mom had died.
He didn't even know what it did.
I said, I'll take it.
Well, my mom, the rest is history.
She just celebrated her 90th birthday.
She was 78 at the time and was getting ready to go into a nursing home.
And she still lives independently in a three-bedroom, two-bedroom house with a guest house and a pool and has no intentions of leaving.
And I attribute that to Juvent.
And since then, I've seen so many people of older age I mean, put their activity level back 5, 10, 20 years.
And mobility is absolutely critical as people age.
If you lose mobility, then you lose self-reliance.
Absolutely.
Then you have to go in maybe a nursing home or some kind of setting, or you have to have people come visit you and help you with everything.
If you can stay mobile, your quality of life, it's like night and day.
If you can stay mobile, life is good.
Absolutely.
And when we stop moving, we stop living.
And for a lot of people, it's a fall.
It results in a fractured hip.
Juvent helps prevent that through two mechanisms of action.
We'll talk about that.
Okay, yeah, let's proceed.
Go ahead with the slide.
My original goal was helping 40 million people with osteoporosis.
And now I look with 10, 12 years experience in this.
My estimation is we can help 300 million people add five years to their health span.
And that's a bold statement, and I'll back it up all day long.
All right.
Hold me to that task.
Okay.
So we'll talk a little bit about who and what Juven is, the physiology, the patients, and a little bit about the technology.
But the physiology is really the most important thing.
Interesting part of it.
A quick disclaimer, Juvent is considered an investigational for osteoporosis and improvement of bone health, and our claims have not been reviewed by the FDA to treat any condition.
So after having said that, let's get on with it and see what we found.
Juvent is essentially a platform you set as you stand on it.
It creates micro-impact.
And micro-impact is extremely low.
And there's a reason we talk about is safety.
But the good news is the engineers found that if they use the right frequency, i.e.
resonance, that they can use that small amount of energy so efficiently that they don't need the big shakers.
And a PhD in controls engineering got three patents on that alone.
And engineering controls people, they're like gurus.
I mean, that's really beyond all of us.
It's fascinating.
The treatments are about 10 minutes long.
And it's simple to use, but there's nothing simple about it.
There's been over 45 million in R&D. There's over 90 published papers and 20 patents.
And it's really not like anything else.
And so that's part of our job is to help distinguish between a juvenile micro-impact and These things they call whole body vibration.
They're just a different league.
This is a slide from the, this is a quote from the clinical founder of one of the largest physical therapy centers in the country.
And the reason I show this to clinicians is if somebody walks in Using Juvent is the rule, not the exception.
It's one of these things that we'll find out why later, but most people are not getting enough impact in their life.
And when they come to physical therapy, they're usually recovering from a surgery, a fall, and that sort of thing.
And Juvent becomes an enormous catalyst to their healing.
And we have so many stories.
We're in hundreds of PT clinics around the country.
And when the PTs get it, they get their patients on it.
They just have what we call the Juvent moment.
It goes from the head to To the heart.
And then they just become eager to get their patients on it.
Yeah, you would think physical therapists everywhere would absolutely love this technology.
And it sounds like the ones that know about it do love it.
It's true.
And it's just a learning curve.
And once they get it, they're on their way.
And so, us as a company, we've worked with some Pretty impressive institutions around the world with different relationships with the funding, co-studies, and that sort of thing.
But we're in the middle of it.
We're still working with a lot of these people, and we're researching many more clinical indications that we see people improving from.
And we have overwhelming anecdotal reports from people all over the country, and they live thousands of miles apart, describing how this other condition that has improved since they've been on Juventus.
And it's kind of fun when you start digging into the science on it, you start finding that it's generally the skeletal metabolism.
And the crazy part is, Mike, the skeleton is the second most important organ system and it has no medical specialty.
Interesting.
So, you know, generally science leads medicine by 20 years.
But in this case, there's nobody on the clinical side even looking to monitor the science to make it active.
So what we have to do is educate, really, you know, both the clinicians and the patients.
Yes.
We have a very impressive medical advisory board.
And the reason I point this out is because when these people are at the top in their field, when they look at the science behind you, they say, sign me up.
Scott Bowden is the vice chairman of orthopedics at Emory.
Robert Sheeler was the 16-year Mayo Clinic newsletter editor who's licensed in six disciplines.
And so you can't have a better vetting than that.
And so the other thing that helps us is when people have questions that we can't answer, we've got a very deep well to draw from to give them guidance.
So let's talk about the physiology and kind of how this thing works its magic.
We've known for over a hundred years that bone grows where bone is loaded.
It's called Wolf's Law.
But we now know in the last only 20 or 30 years that bone distinguishes between impact and non-impact loading.
So lifting a weight is very different than a walking step because the impulse is very different.
And the bone can use both of them.
But it requires an impact load to get most of its cellular work done.
And we'll see in a few slides, that's a big deal.
Now, cell transfer is the study of what a cell lets in and what a cell lets out at the wall.
And so they've identified that this, it's called mechanotransduction, and it's part of mechanotherapy.
And the body uses that mechanical load to get its cellular work done.
And that's one of the reasons why walking is such a miracle.
And you see all these studies about how walking improves so many things in people's lives, but you don't see that about swimming and bicycling because it's the impact loading that's one of the key ingredients.
And that's one of the things Juvent is very gracefully, if you call it biohacking, you might call it, gracefully enables this cellular activity in a very short period of time and doing it safely.
This is a great slide.
So you see that guy's hand on the left and that guy's hand on the right?
Yeah.
You see the size difference?
Is that the same guy?
It's not only the same guy.
It's the same guy at the same time.
What?
Exactly.
Is he a quarterback throwing a football or something?
What does he do with the hand?
He's a professional tennis player.
Tennis, ah.
And so I came across this guy, you know, I read hundreds of articles and I thought, that's it.
That in one picture.
Because what's amazing about this is that it's the same person, same biology, same everything.
Except the dominant hand, in this case the right hand, is the one hitting the racket.
And you see the same thing in the arm.
And so what you're seeing is a visual verification Of the accrued effects of impact loading on skeletal metabolism.
That's a mouthful, but it's a really, really important point.
Tell us, Pete, what's on the right hand side of that?
So on the right hand is his arms.
And so you can see on the left the hand difference and also see if you look at the bone density in the arms, you see the difference.
Maybe you can see my pointer up there.
You can see the difference in the bone density on both the arm and the hand on the dominant side.
I mean, it's almost like just the bone mass for his right arm, it might be double.
I mean, I'm just guessing just from looking at it, but the diameter is substantially increased.
I imagine the density is also increased.
Absolutely.
And you'll see this next slide, it's the tip of the iceberg.
But this is so visual, but it's perfect.
Because, you know, you can do studies with hundreds of people and argue over the data.
This is the same guy.
Physiology, same endocrinology, every pre-existing issue, it's right there.
And it's over a long period of time.
Now, this next slide, Mike, is one of three slides that has a yellow background.
And the reason I put the yellow background is I really want these to be the take-home slides.
Okay?
And so...
If we look at the skeleton system, we think of it, it's an organ system, so every bone is an organ, and together forms a skeletal organ system.
We think of it as structural.
And it was funny, the other day, I was with a 30-year friend of mine, an orthopedic fellowship-trained spine surgeon, and I asked him, what's the primary role of the skeleton?
And even he said, it holds you up.
And I had fun with, you know, we were having fun, but I said, no, it's really not.
The primary function of bone is metabolic, not structural.
And let me back that up.
Bones produces stem cells.
So you can call them liquids and solids.
The blood cells are called hemopoietics.
And those blood cells are our red blood cells for oxygen transport and our white blood cells for our immune system.
So those are pretty important.
Yes.
And, you know, I had speculated in COVID that this would help COVID patients, and it turned out to be very much true.
We have doctors that have validated that as patients themselves.
And FLCCC has put Juven on their protocols as a third line defense.
This is where it belongs.
And, you know, I've spent a lot of time with Dr.
Corey and Dr.
Merrick, and they've reviewed the literature quite well, but also have noticed it clinically.
Oh, that's great.
The other group of cells that the bone produces are, I call them the structural cells, or they're called mesochymals, okay?
These stem cells are our source for five things.
Bone, muscle, fat, cartilage, and connective tissue.
There may be a few more that are under investigation, but those are the ones right now.
And that looks a lot like a joint, doesn't it?
Yes.
We think that's one of the reasons so many people with joint pain get so much relief from Juven, because these stem cells are what are replacing our Supply of cells.
I mean, cells die, come and go, but they have to be produced and made, and we have a net loss.
Well, you end up with pain.
The other thing is those stem cells are known anti-inflammatories.
So when somebody has inflammation, and guess what?
There's five types of arthritis.
They all end with an itis.
That means inflammation.
And so it's, you know, that's pretty easy to connect those dots.
But we'll find, I'll show you in a paper.
But it's...
Well, I just want to point out, for those watching it may be counterintuitive, that micro-impact treatment can actually result in reduced inflammation, because a lot of people might think if something's inflamed and then you're pushing kinetic energy through it, it's going to cause it to be more inflamed.
But you're just explaining the mechanism, why the opposite is often true.
Yeah, that's a great point.
And that's the difference between impact and micro-impact.
Because the body...
The body can handle large impact loads, but they're always delivered at low frequency.
But it actually puts them to use.
But different tissues respond differently, and the bone is extremely resilient, but it's also extremely sensitive.
But the rest of the body, starting with cartilage, doesn't really like it, and it becomes a mixed bag.
And so that's really one of the differences between impact and micro-impact.
And the animal studies have shown us, and in humans, That there's 46% more stem cells of this type produced, and that's mind-blowing.
You know, everyone's trying to go get stem cell treatments with an injection.
You know, I think the body's a little better at figuring out what type of cells to make and where they go.
Wait a minute, you're saying that on the juvent plate, people's own bodies have been clinically shown to produce 46% more stem cells.
Yes.
What duration?
Daily?
For how long?
What's necessary?
The animal studies.
I'll show you that in a moment.
Oh, okay, okay.
That number comes from the animal study.
In the humans, they found it to be increased.
I don't have that level of specificity, but it's still significantly bigger.
Okay.
Back to bone's functions.
Bone does our mineral and lipid storage to keep our heart pumping at the right rate.
And the other one that's a huge game changer is bone is essentially a member of the endocrine system.
And the endocrine system is how our body manages itself.
It's the communication system.
And so when we hear diabetics telling us my insulin management gets easier, when people with RLS say I don't have RLS as bad anymore, men telling us they get their erections back, those are all hormonal issues.
And you start to dig into it, you find, hey, these dots can be connected.
Now, the hormonal system is extremely complicated, and we'll study that for a hundred years.
So to say we know everything, we don't.
But at the same time, the treatment can be used because it's low risk.
It's low cost, and it doesn't displace any other therapies.
And those are the three things that require, you know, the big expensive million dollar studies.
You know, that's a really good point, is that this is something people can use without a surgical intervention, obviously.
You just stand on the plate for a few minutes a day.
It doesn't, there are no contraindications for any medication or supplements that you might already be on, right?
So you don't have to change that.
Correct.
As long as you can stand on this plate for a few minutes at a time, you can use it.
And, you know, the other thing that people forget, I mean, I know somebody who just went through spinal surgery.
And it's brutal.
It's brutal.
And at any age.
And recovering from spinal surgery, you know, this woman I know has spent six weeks trying to walk again.
And is optimistic that it went well.
That's the good recovery.
Six weeks trying to walk again, and she can with a walker.
But spinal surgery is absolutely brutal.
I'm not saying this can replace surgery in every condition.
Not saying that at all.
But it's something that people can look into that requires no interventions, no scarring, no anesthesia, no risk of dying on the operating table from trying this.
Yeah, and it's actually even more synergistic than that, Mike, because there are people who have an orthopedic issue and are considering a total joint replacement.
And we'll say, look, why don't you try the Juvent?
You don't have to cancel your surgery, but try the Juvent for prehab, pre-rehabilitation.
Yeah.
Because the stronger you go into a surgery, the better off you are.
That's right.
And what we see, people go, well, I feel a lot better.
Maybe I'll just postpone my surgery a little bit.
Well, maybe I can push that off a little bit.
And it may be a year or two later that they end up getting the joint replaced, if ever.
And so we're not the panacea, but it's an amazing therapy.
Why not try it?
And even if they do do the surgery, it's a great rehab tool to help wound healing.
And most orthopedic surgeries require a fusion surgery.
So even in most spinal surgeries that aren't decompressive, if they're fusing, that's like, it's fusing two bones together like you would a broken bone.
Right.
And we have patients, and I have a series of x-rays of a cervical fusion, which is the most common fusion.
Doctors, that's the most common spinal fusion there is.
They do them like a dentist would fill a cavity.
And the person used Juvent, who was a good friend of ours, used to sell spinal implants with him.
And he got on the Juvent, and we looked at his x-rays, and we told the doctor exactly what we were doing.
I've shown his x-rays to well 50 to 100 spine surgeons.
And they look at the x-ray and say, that looks like a three to six month or 18 month x-ray.
When I tell them it's six weeks, they just don't believe me.
Wow.
We have all the medical records.
So as far as, you know, it being a tool for prehab or rehab, and even if you need the surgery, it's still a great therapy to have there.
And, you know...
Even if I replace the bone, the rest of the skeletal system, I want to preserve it.
So it makes all the sense.
Let me mention, too, orthopedic surgeons, they want to work with patients.
Even if you're doing, let's say, a hip replacement surgery, well, they have to attach the new hip to your existing bones.
And in order to do that, you need bone density.
And I know orthopedic surgeons, they hate it when they open up a patient and the bones are soft.
You know, a sedentary lifestyle person, typically an elderly person with very mushy, almost, bones.
How do you screw into that, you know, the new parts?
Like, how does it stay attached?
And then what about the bone, what about the healing that happens around the, you know, the attachment points?
I'm not, sorry, I'm not using the right technical terms, but an orthopedic surgeon wants somebody to come in with high bone density that's going to have a more successful procedure.
Absolutely.
I mean, I've been literally in thousands of spine surgeries.
And the skeletal density will vary between oak would be, you know, the best, and down to styrofoam.
Oh, my.
And, I mean, it's a nightmare for the surgeon because they, you know, are these screws going to hold up?
And on a total joint replacement, you have that metal bone interface that has to incorporate.
Right.
And, you know, we had one orthopedic surgeon, one of his patients on adjuvant, literally in the hospital next day post-op.
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, it's a synergistic effect.
But you know, the interesting part about it is, if we were able to take all of our bones and replace them with metal, we'd be absolutely unbreakable.
But we would be dead in 10 minutes.
Right.
You would lose all those other metabolic functions.
The point is the boat's real job is metabolic, not structural.
Right.
And so if we do need the shortcut with a total joiner or something, okay, that's great.
But let's still take care of the rest of the skeletal system because that's its real job.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Okay.
All right.
Let's move along.
Sorry I've been interrupting you, but we've got a little over 10 minutes.
Okay, then I'll have to really go because I appreciate the interruptions.
This is an example of Bones' chemical conversation with the rest of the body.
This slide's way over my head, but you get the point.
And what I try to tell people is if you want to be healthy without your skeleton getting what it needs, good luck.
All right, another yellow slide.
Very important.
I'm an engineer.
And engineers, when they get it over their head, which I do in biology, we go to energy because if we do that accounting, we know we're going to come up with where we all fit.
Chemically, we know we need air, water, and food.
That's obvious.
But what's a little less conspicuous, Mike, is we need mechanical energy.
And that comes in two subcomponents, force and movement.
So an astronaut tells us what it is.
When we have no force, they lose bone at horrific rates.
A bedridden person, they're not long for this world.
There's no movement.
Now, this is where it gets interesting.
We've only known or agreed upon for the last hundred years that food is broken into subcomponents, fat, proteins, and carbs.
And we wouldn't think of a diet that didn't incorporate that.
And micronutrients is where the vitamins and minerals are, and most of those discoveries are less than 50 years old.
Well, it turns out force is not as simple.
Today we know it needs impact and non-impact.
And just like fat, protein, carbs, those are non-interchangeable fundamental daily requirements.
That's a really important point.
That's not a treatment.
That's a fundamental daily requirement.
And that's juvent.
So people ask, who needs juvent?
My answer is kind of, yeah.
And most people are impact-deficient, I call it mechanopedia, because they fear impact or they're sedentary for whatever reason.
I haven't met pro-athletes that lack impact because they're exercising and ignoring that requirement for the bone.
And so that's where Juven is.
And that means it's more than a treatment.
It's addressing a fundamental requirement.
Is there any questions there, Mike?
Well, what about rebounding like a mini trampoline?
Does that count as impact or is the forces are too gradual?
It'd be a little bit of both.
I see.
Yeah, it would be very inefficient, but every bounce, sure, that'd be one impact.
Juvent's doing about 32 to 37 impacts per second.
Wow.
And also, when I use Juvent, I always feel...
There's a warmth, an internal warmth that begins to happen.
Because I always use it in the morning, usually right after I wake up.
And so, you know, the body's not really moving that much.
I get on the juvent, get going.
And within a few minutes, I start to feel a sense of warmth.
Do a lot of people experience that?
Yeah, that's circulation.
What's happening is there's a very well-described phenomenon of the balance muscles.
There's a fiber type that deals with our balance.
Those balance muscles are stimulated every time the platform moves.
And so that activation is clinically relevant in a couple of indications.
One is balance improvement because it's like older people, their balanced muscle fibers aren't functioning properly.
And so Juven is like having a personal trainer work on those.
The secondary effect is that promotes a lot of lymphatic improvement.
Pumping, a lot of mobility.
And so we see people's feet, and I have a few pictures I'll show you, how their feet are just transformed from big, fat, swollen, lower limb edema to a different person.
So that's part of what you're feeling on that.
Okay.
Okay.
And, you know, I also want to mention, I'm very active.
I, you know, I walk, I train, I lift weights, I work with animals, I'm a hands-on guy around the ranch doing a lot of heavy things, and I still find benefit from Juvent.
So, you know, it seems like even people who consider themselves to be quite active, as I do, can still receive benefits.
Is that fair?
It is because we get a lot of users that are pro football players and pro tennis players.
And what happens there is they're not having a shortage of impact, so to speak, but they're kind of getting the wrong type.
And it's types that cause inflammation.
And so what we're doing is we're providing micro impact, which is restorative.
And so they're not dealing with a gross deficiency and they're using it as a supplement to help.
It's like a saltwater swimmer still needs to drink fresh water even though he's surrounded by it.
Right.
And so they're using it with a little bit different mechanism of action.
But I don't ever had a pro athlete not use it for more than two weeks and not stay using it.
And we've actually had to now build portable platforms so they can travel away with it on the away game.
Okay.
Makes sense.
All right.
Sorry to interrupt.
Go ahead.
I see you've got the next slide.
And it's a yellow slide.
It's the last yellow slide.
Okay.
So basically, if you look at a vitamin – Now, a vitamin has three fundamental characteristics.
It's required for normal metabolism, it's found in nature, and it's always a supplemental component.
We don't have vitamin C trees, we have orange trees, grape trees, fruit trees.
Now, if I take that and I juxtapose that with what is an exercise, well, an exercise is three components.
I have movement and two types of force.
So, if I merge those two concepts together, And take that force component and synthesize it to where it's easier, then it's literally a vitamin of exercise.
It's mechanical, not chemical.
It has the same dosing, the same response, excuse me, the same retention.
And this is a term I invented, and I've talked to 100 MDs, NDs, and PhDs in a combination of them, and they've all agreed, yeah, that's technically accurate.
That's a very accurate description.
And so the other question is, when do we need it?
Well, when do we need a vitamin?
Our whole life.
It's part of life.
And so it kind of goes to answer the age population, because we don't stop eating exercise at any point in our life.
That's kind of interesting, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, the minute you stop moving, you just start dying.
Absolutely.
See, the thing about it is, we're electrical beings, we're chemical beings, but we're also mechanical beings.
And every cell in the body is mechanosensitive.
And we either use that as a productive force or destructive force.
And what the researchers have done, it was a team of researchers for 20 years, they found exactly how to dial that in.
And that's why it's called micro-impact, because you can do all good without the bad.
And when you study the biology and the mechanics, there's a lot to it.
It's not a simple discovery.
Alright, makes sense.
Let's keep moving forward.
This is a slide showing The stem cell achievements of the animals on Juvent versus not.
So if you look in the lower left corner, those are the stem cells that become our bone, muscle, fat, cartilage, and connective tissue.
46% more.
Mike, you had mentioned feeling kind of a warmth on the unit.
That's circulation.
As I mentioned earlier, it's promoting circulation.
And the mechanism of action is fascinating.
So when our blood system uses other muscle activity to squeeze blood vessels, push things forward, and then it locks it in place and just keeps advancing forward.
So that's happening with Juvent, both with blood and for lymph.
And our lymph system is really kind of the garbage collection and immune response highway.
And it's just about as...
Involved is the blood system in terms of where it is, but it doesn't have a heart.
It relies on this exclusively.
And having these people on it makes a huge difference.
Let me show you a couple pictures of people's difference between the flow and their extremities.
This guy on the top left came to my house looking for a juvent for his joint pain.
I looked at his feet.
I said, I got to get a picture of this.
Those won't look the same in four weeks.
Sure enough, he sent me a picture four weeks later.
That's it to the right.
These lower pictures are from NYU. They're doing a study on lower limb edema.
You can see the difference a few weeks makes on that patient.
Wow.
This is one of the top right is a friend of mine who sold spinal implants with.
He broke his leg, and he was three months post-op, still keeping his foot elevated.
I looked at it.
I said, get on a Juvent.
He actually had one.
He goes, you think it'll help?
I laughed.
So eight days later, I had him send me another picture.
Look at the difference.
I mean, it just goes on and on.
So that's a really fun thing to see people turn around.
Yeah, it's a pretty gnarly scar he's got there, too.
I hate to know what happened to him.
Well, his foot went in a hole.
His body went forward.
Everything got separated.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, it was pretty bad.
Poor guy.
Okay.
Well, you know, this reinforces recovery.
It does.
The importance of it.
So, okay.
What else do we need to know?
So, basically, there's a lot of reasons we don't get impact.
And, you know, these are all a little counterintuitive, but some of them are actually just amazing.
And I'm going to focus on the last one, and it's incapacity.
And what happens, you know, imagine if we got older and somebody said, you know, you can't run and catch animals, no meat for you.
You can't climb trees, no fruit for you.
You can't get water, no water for you.
Here's a wheelchair.
We wouldn't do that.
But that's exactly what we do with micro-impact.
Can't walk a lot?
Here's a cane.
Don't like that?
Here's a walker.
Why do you even need to walk at all?
Here's a wheelchair.
And so these people have their second most important organ system basically going dormant.
Right.
And of course they're going to accelerate the decline.
When we see people get on Juvent, they're making huge steps back.
My mom was really that stage three right there.
That was 12 years ago.
She's back on state, whatever the one at first image in this cascade.
And so that is just a huge audience.
And it's just the one that, you know, when I say we can add five years to people's health span, that's why.
I know it.
I see it.
I don't have a study to say that.
That's Pete Simonson's estimation, but I think it's an underestimate, actually.
Yeah.
Yeah, makes sense.
Now, back to vitamins.
I show this to doctors.
These are diseases that none of the doctors have ever treated.
Okay?
You won't find many doctors who are experts in scurvy or rickets.
All vitamin deficiencies.
Exactly.
And that's the point I try to tell them.
When the vitamin was discovered, that a deficiency was addressed, these diseases went away.
And in my opinion, the vitamin of exercise we're providing is doing the same thing.
Too many of these things we just think are normal.
And that's what I try to get to the doctors.
This is a list of 13 indications that all could be treated with a drug.
And you know what?
It's dehydration.
And the point I'm making is imagine someone suffering from all of those and no one asks them, are you drinking water?
And so you're trying to chase your tail without addressing a fundamental daily requirement.
And that's where Juvent fits.
If you're going to heal something, address deficiencies and remove toxins.
That's the number one thing.
Most people are underserved with impact loading.
Okay, Mike, a really very important point is the body has limits of what type of impact it likes.
Juven is not the same as a whole body vibration plate that you find at Costco, Amazon, or even pay $10,000 for.
It's using micro-impact.
It's very different.
The body has a range of impact loading that is pure good.
Beyond that, it starts to become destructive.
We know that from inflammatory cytokines.
It's not that it's not doing some good, because the bone can take it.
It's the rest of the body you have to worry about.
And it's very important that people understand that and not get on these high-energy plates.
I'm an engineer.
I can tell you, if you can see it moving, it's too much energy.
And we're starting to get documented cases of detached retinas and cranial damage from people getting on these high energy plates.
We knew it in theory.
We're seeing it in reality.
So it's important to understand juvent is not whole body vibration.
And there's a very, very big difference.
Okay.
All right.
Well stated.
I haven't seen that presentation before, but it sure is fascinating.
I know you have a lot more to share, but we are out of time for today.
Let me just mention, folks, go to Juvent.com to check it out.
Again, as a disclaimer, we don't earn anything off your purchase, but the Juventus Company is a sponsor of Brighteon.tv, and this is a product that I have used since 2016.
So seven years I've been using this myself, and I can't say enough about it, and I've recommended it to a large number of people.
So thank you, Pete, for joining us today.
It's been fascinating.
Thank you, Mike.
Thanks so much.
Okay.
All right.
We'll talk again.
Take care now.
All right, and thank you for joining me today.
All of you watching, again, Juvent.com is the website, and it's something to check out.
And feel free to repost this interview if you found it valuable, if you know somebody that this can help.
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