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Oct. 13, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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BBN, Oct 13, 2023 - FOOLED AGAIN: Gullible humans fall for another psyop – first vaccines, now a HOL

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	Fooled again.
	Gullible humans fall for yet another PSYOP. First vaccines, now a holy war.
	Welcome to Brighton Broadcast News.
	For Friday, October 13th, 2023, I've got two incredible interviews coming up for you today.
	One with Brian Berletic of the new Atlas, who is one of my favorite analysts today, joins me from Thailand for an in-depth discussion about Israel, Palestine, Gaza, and also the latest updates on Ukraine and Russia.
	That should be a fascinating interview.
	And then I was a guest with Maria Z from Australia on Z Media.
	And we had, I think, a very intriguing conversation trying to inject some rationality, if that's possible, into world events today.
	I mean everybody's irrational.
	Everybody's all emotional.
	Everybody's reacting.
	Everybody wants vengeance.
	Everybody's trying to kill everybody else it seems.
	But Maria and I are trying to bring some level of reason and maybe the antithesis of the murderous rage that we're seeing everywhere else.
	We're trying to bring some calm to the situation and some rational analysis.
	So I'll play that interview for you here as well.
	And then finally, I also have a special report that is a statement of principles, which I think we'll do that one first.
	Actually, it's about a 20-minute report that I think is really critical to...
	Underscore and really just restate the principles that drive, number one, what I do, what my organization is all about, and why I cannot condone the mass slaughter of innocent civilians, no matter what their ethnicity.
	Even though there are tremendous pressures being exerted against me, including by people that I have known for many years, and there are also serious threats being issued against me, saying that if I don't support the wiping saying that if I don't support the wiping out of every last living person in Gaza, then I become the enemy or something somehow.
	I know it doesn't make any sense.
	But those are the kinds of pressures that are being placed upon me, which, of course, that's not going to change my principles.
	My principles are not subject to coercion threats, by the way.
	Otherwise, they wouldn't be principles, would they?
	I actually stand for what I believe, and I believe in humanity.
	And, in fact, what I want to point out here, before we get into all that, my headline for today's broadcast, Fooled Again!
	Gullible Humans Fall for Yet Another PSYOP. Remember all those people who said, oh, I stand with the science, and they were wearing masks and taking vaccines, and then those same people, I stand with Ukraine, which is fine to support Ukraine, but these people had no knowledge of what was actually happening.
	And then now it's like, I stand with Israel.
	Again, nothing wrong with supporting Israel.
	It's just that the people who are following this pattern of, I stand with this, I stand with that, you don't stand for jack squat because you're doing only what the corporate media orders you to do.
	You don't stand for anything.
	That's why you fall for everything.
	If your views perfectly align with the corporate media, And the government and the Biden regime, you don't stand for anything.
	You're just a puppet.
	You're just being manipulated.
	And right now, the manipulation is so extreme and also so very effective against a lot of people that it has invoked this emotional response that is completely bypassing reason, rationality, even knowledge.
	It's just bypassing it all and turning people into...
	You know, vengeful animals, like just kill the other people, whoever they happen to be, whether we're talking about Russia and Ukraine or Israel versus Palestine or, frankly, a lot of other conflicts around the world.
	And I want to point out that who loves this are the globalists because the globalists want depopulation of the human race across the entire planet.
	Never forget that.
	And from the point of view of the globalists, they don't care who kills who, as long as somebody's killing somebody.
	They're thrilled with that.
	If Hamas is killing Israelis, the globalists are thrilled.
	If the IDF is killing Palestinians, the globalists are thrilled.
	If Russia is killing Ukrainians, the globalists are thrilled.
	If Ukraine is killing Russia, the globalists are thrilled.
	They don't care who's killing who as long as somebody's killing somebody.
	And if you fall for that, By being manipulated into thinking that your enemy is these other people across the river or across the wall or across the border, instead of recognizing that no, the common enemy we all have is the globalists who are pushing depopulation and terrorism on a planetary scale, then you have been used.
	You have been hoodwinked.
	You are a tool of the globalists if you go along with anything that they're pushing.
	That's what I've been trying to explain here for the last few days.
	It's that it's not even about Israel versus Palestine.
	It's about humanity versus Israel.
	The depopulation pushers, the exterminators on a global scale.
	They don't want any of us to still be here.
	Why do you think they try to start a race war in America?
	They want blacks killing whites and whites killing blacks.
	George Floyd, you know, and then I Can't Breathe and Trayvon Martin, all this.
	It's designed to start a race war.
	Critical race theory.
	Teaching children that white children are bad.
	Black lives matter, but only black lives matter.
	Why do you think they teach this?
	It's because it's about division.
	They're trying to spark a race war in America.
	They haven't been able to do it yet, but they're sure trying, aren't they, right?
	They want a race war.
	They want terrorism in America.
	And by the way, today is the day of the apparent Muslim jihad uprising.
	On a global scale.
	And no matter what happens today, no matter what happens, if somebody dies today, the globalists are thrilled.
	They will celebrate.
	They will applaud it.
	Remember, they don't care.
	If something violent happens, let's say God forbid somebody, some radical group were to bomb a Jewish synagogue today, which of course we hope never happens, but should such a horrific thing happen, the globalists are absolutely going to celebrate.
	They want that to happen.
	Because they win when people kill each other.
	And so this is why they turn everybody against each other in multiple conflicts and multiple forms of hatred.
	They try to get people to hate each other based on their skin color.
	They try to get people to hate each other based on different religions, different ethnicities, different language.
	You know, all kinds of different things.
	And they teach differences rather than teaching what we have in common.
	Keep that in mind.
	It's a critical point.
	And you know how they say today is the day of Muslim jihad against the West?
	Well, I say in a bigger picture way, actually every day is a day of globalist jihad against humanity.
	And when I use the word jihad, I essentially mean what you might typically call a holy war.
	But in this case, because they are Satanists at the globalist level, it's really an unholy war.
	So technically the proper way to say that would be that every day is a globalist unholy jihad against humanity.
	Every day is a day that they want to kill more people or cause more infertility or inject more people with vaccines or poison the food supply or poison the skies.
	Whatever it takes, when more people die, globalists celebrate because that is their goal.
	So, do not allow yourself to be recruited into hating another human being.
	I thought this was a principle that was demanded of all of us in so-called liberal democracies.
	I thought for years we've been taught it's supposed to be about inclusiveness and tolerance, but now what's demanded of everybody is vengeance.
	And destruction and mass killing and, you know, level the place.
	So U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham was on Fox News.
	Here's what he said about Israel's response to the Hamas terrorism attacks.
	He says, quote, we are in a religious war.
	I am with Israel.
	Do whatever the hell you have to do to defend yourself.
	Level the place.
	That phrase level the place is quite indicative of Of the response that we're hearing from a lot of people, not just Lindsey Graham, but Senator Marco Rubio and a whole lot of commentators right now, level the place.
	We are in a religious war, as if that invocation of a holy war makes it justifiable to quote Level the place.
	And this trend, understand that Senator Lindsey Graham, he is a warmonger.
	And you know this, if you've been listening for very long at all, you know, if you find yourself agreeing with Lindsey Graham on this, be very careful what you are signing up for.
	Because Lindsey Graham also wants to nuke Russia.
	Lindsey Graham has never met a war he didn't like.
	He wants more war and more conflict.
	And we're hearing this from a lot of quarters.
	And the reason I mention this is because these people don't realize they are being used by the globalists to achieve depopulation.
	Because how many Israelis will die in the attack on Gaza, by the way?
	This is not going to be a walk in the park for the IDF to go into Gaza and fight Gaza.
	Building by building, block by block.
	This is going to be Israel's bakhmut, by the way, which was a brutal killing fields or urban killing fields that Russia and Ukraine fought over.
	Seriously, Gaza will be the bakhmut of the Israel-Palestine conflict, and the death count will be horrifying.
	So from the Daily Caller News Foundation, here's another headline that sort of reinforces what Lindsey Graham said.
	A retired Israeli general has a solution to Hamas terror.
	Quote, level the ground.
	Which is the same as what Lindsey Graham said.
	Level the place.
	So he says level the ground.
	He says the only way to resolve the conflict is to eliminate Gaza.
	To completely eliminate Gaza.
	And it's not as if they're going to roll into Gaza and invite people, hey, please just give up your homes and the place where you've lived and your building, your apartment, your business, your neighborhood, your schools, your hospitals, everything.
	Please just give up all that and walk on out of here.
	And everything will be fine.
	No, it's like, oh, we're going to cut off all your water, your power, and then we're going to bomb the crap out of you.
	We're going to cut off everything that you need to survive, and we're going to block virtually all the exits, and we're going to keep bombing you until you're dead.
	That is what is being advocated by people like General Israel Ziv.
	Ziv.
	So Ziv says, quote, now we need to change the whole doctrine about Gaza.
	No more Hamas, he says.
	And the way to get there is to level the ground.
	And then he talks about some details of the Hamas terrorist attack against innocent Israeli civilians, which was absolutely horrific.
	And Ziv says, quote, Hamas has to pay for this with their existence, which is completely understandable if you're talking about Hamas.
	I mean, but there's a conflation right now of Hamas with everybody in Gaza.
	Everybody.
	And they are not the same, even though Hamas obviously has a very strong presence in the Gaza Strip.
	But every civilian in Gaza, which is reportedly 2.3 million people, does not support Hamas, is not part of Hamas, is not active with Hamas and so on.
	But conflating these two allows people to justify, like Senator Lindsey Graham, the leveling of Gaza because it's a holy war.
	So let me bring you some other critical news on this before we go to the special reports and the interviews I mentioned.
	And here's a bulletin from Hal Turner.
	Israel informs United Nations to evacuate its staff and one million residents within 24 hours.
	So if you look at a map of Gaza, Which hopefully we're all becoming more familiar with Gaza right now.
	It is important to understand the geography.
	There is a Wadi.
	And that's spelled W-A-D-I, by the way.
	Wadi is kind of like a dry riverbed area.
	And there's a point in Gaza called Wadi.
	I think it's Alsalka.
	I'm not sure if I'm getting that correct.
	It's known as the Wadi roughly in the center of the Gaza Strip in terms of north and south.
	It's kind of roughly in the middle.
	And Israel is ordering one million Gazan residents to be south of that Wadi within 24 hours and also ordering United Nations staff.
	To evacuate the area.
	Because it appears that Israel is going to attack Gaza from the north and is going to occupy the northern half of Gaza, as is telling residents to leave.
	Well, as Hal Turner points out, quote, how do you move a million people within 24 hours in a place where the roads and buildings are bombed and rubble is everywhere?
	There's no electricity, no running water and no fuel for vehicles.
	So Israel has bombed the bejesus, let's say, out of Gaza and then says, oh, now you need to evacuate.
	Otherwise, we're going to kill you.
	So the United Nations has now urged Israel to call off these evacuation orders for Gaza.
	The UN calling on the Israeli military to rescind its order for one plus million people to evacuate northern Gaza within the next 24 hours.
	A UN spokesperson told Sputnik, which is a Russian media outlet, that Israel had issued a notice for individuals in Gaza to relocate to the south of the territory.
	The UN has stated, importantly, that such an order would be impossible without causing, quote, devastating humanitarian consequences.
	See, this is what we need to understand.
	These devastating humanitarian consequences are exactly what Israel is being ordered to invoke.
	Because remember, ultimately this goal is about creating a much larger war so that the globalists can see a whole lot more people killed.
	Remember, the globalists aren't just satisfied with seeing Palestinians killed or Israelis killed.
	They want to see Syrians killed.
	They want to see Jordanians killed.
	They want to see Lebanese killed.
	They want to see Iranians killed.
	I mean, frankly, they really want to see Western nations all depopulated and killed, which is why they push the vaccines so aggressively in those nations.
	So they want a much wider war.
	And in fact, there are policies that are taking place among Western nations right now that appear absolutely engineered by To cause a much larger uprising and a lashing out by Palestinians in Western nations.
	Here's an example from The Guardian.
	Quote, here's the title.
	Waving the Palestinian flag may be a criminal offense, Braverman tells police.
	So the Home Secretary, Suela Braverman, She says that a clampdown on pro-Arab chants might concern free speech advocates, but she says that, essentially, Palestinians are not allowed to protest or to say Palestine will be free.
	Okay, I mean, yeah.
	Palestinians are not allowed to say that Palestine will be free.
	Because she says that's an expression of a violent desire to see Israel erased from the world.
	And thus...
	Oh, and she says it's not acceptable to drive through Jewish neighborhoods or single out Jewish members to chant or wave pro-Palestinian symbols.
	That would be harassment.
	But if you say Palestine will be free or you wave a Palestinian flag or apparently there's a long list of other things, you will be arrested and criminally charged...
	In the UK. Now, this policy is designed to do what?
	It's designed to piss off Palestinians.
	I mean, come on.
	It's exactly what it's designed to do.
	Now, this story, by the way, is covered by Politico, BBC, CNN, Reuters, a bunch of others, but I'm going to read you from Al Jazeera, their headlines, so you understand their point of view.
	And check out this headline, France bans pro-Palestine rallies, cracks down on protesters amid Gaza war.
	So the government of France has criminalized all pro-Palestine rallies, even if they are peaceful.
	This is what's critical to understand.
	Even if they are peaceful rallies of people holding up signs.
	Signs that might say things like, what was the thing earlier?
	That Palestine shall be free.
	Things like that.
	In France, you're supposed to be able to exercise peaceful demonstrations.
	And isn't it interesting that France has tolerated all kinds of behavior by other Muslims over the years?
	In fact, France has tolerated a lot of rapes of French women.
	But when it comes to Palestine, France...
	Here it is.
	Police broke up a rally in Paris on Thursday following orders from Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin to ban all pro-Palestine demonstrations in the name of public order.
	Critics call the order an attack on civil liberties because in Paris, you can have a pro-Israel rally, you see.
	So you can wave Israeli flags.
	You could probably wave signs that say, no Palestine, or end Palestine, or bomb Gaza, or something like that.
	You could run around Paris with those signs and an Israeli flag, no problem.
	If you have a Palestinian flag, You're a criminal, even if you've committed no crime.
	See, this is extraordinary.
	So one woman told Reuters, quote, we live in a country of civil law, a country where we have the right to take a stand and to demonstrate.
	It's unfair to forbid for one side and to authorize for the other.
	The other that does not reflect the reality of Palestine, she says.
	So...
	From Al Jazeera, the ban came as Israel continues to bomb the Gaza Strip for the sixth day, killing more than 1,400 people, which, by the way, is now higher than the body count of what Hamas did in Israel, wounding thousands and wiping out neighborhoods in the already besieged territory, now under a total siege.
	So...
	Israel can bomb Gaza and kill civilians.
	But in Paris, you can wave the Israeli flag.
	You cannot wave a Palestinian flag.
	Even if you are silent, even if you say nothing, you cannot stand in a public place and wave a Palestinian flag without being arrested.
	I mean, this is extraordinary.
	And don't get me wrong.
	I have, I mean, I would not personally wave a Palestinian flag.
	I have no ties to Palestine nor to Israel.
	I mean, I would wave the Texas flag, right?
	Or the American flag.
	Or the come and take it flag, perhaps.
	But, you know, the Gadsden flag.
	But I would not personally ever want to wave a Palestinian flag because I'm not Palestinian.
	But I believe in the right of people to wave their own flags, including, by the way, the LGBT flag, which is a symbol of Satanism.
	And you notice how you can wave the LGBT flag everywhere.
	Even though the LGBT flag represents the mutilation of children, which is a kind of medical crime that actually shares a lot in common with what Hamas is alleged to have done to Israeli babies by disfiguring them and decapitating them and killing them.
	Well, and I know some of you are going to cringe at the comparison here, but this is real.
	In American hospitals, LGBT surgeons mutilate children when they're unconscious, you know, under anesthesia, through grotesque, horrifying procedures that lead a shocking percentage of those children to later commit suicide.
	It's kind of a slow death.
	It's a genital decapitation, you could say, of these children.
	And it is a valid comparison.
	When you are mutilating children under the flag of LGBT, it is a kind of medical terrorism against innocent children, by the way.
	And yet, despite that, I still would argue that someone has the right to stand in a public place and wave the LGBT flag if that is what they want to stand for.
	Mutilating children, Satanism, child suicides, if that's what they stand for and they want to stand there and wave the flag, that's their business.
	I do not think we should criminalize waving the LGBT flag.
	Nor any national flag.
	I mean, nor the Palestinian flag, nor the Israeli flag, nor the flag of even, let's say, Russia or America or whatever.
	If you want to wave a flag, that's your business.
	And a French minister said that at least 24 people have been arrested across France for, quote, anti-Semitic acts since Saturday.
	I wonder what those are.
	What are anti-Semitic acts?
	And by the way, zero people have been arrested for anti-Palestine acts.
	Zero.
	Because anti-Palestine acts are, of course, completely accepted in Western societies today.
	Again, I don't have any ties to Palestine.
	I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of all of this.
	That why is it okay to call for mass killing of one group of people, but it's a crime to call for killing of a different group of people?
	And by the way, I'm seeing more bullet points here on Al Jazeera.
	That says that in Beirut, Iran's foreign minister says the war may open on other fronts if the bombing of Gaza continues.
	So here is exactly what the U.S. Empire wants, which is an expansion of this war to ensnare Iran.
	See?
	That's exactly what's desired.
	And this story says Hamas accuses Israel of carrying out a genocide in Gaza.
	And at least now 1,500 Palestinians have been killed.
	6,600 wounded in Israeli airstrikes.
	And the number of people killed in Israel by Hamas has now reached 1,300.
	So again, Israel has killed more Palestinians than Hamas killed of Israelis.
	And I asked the question in my article the other day on Natural News.
	How many dead Palestinians will be enough for Israelis to feel like they have gotten even?
	Which is a dangerous question throughout history involving any war or ethnic conflict or border conflict.
	But, you know, how many dead is enough?
	Because the obvious answer, because it's so emotionally charged, is, you know, it's never enough until they're all dead, which is why Lindsey Graham is saying level the place and why, who was it, Ziv, is saying you've got to kill them all.
	Kill them all!
	This is something that we remember hearing from Vietnam.
	You know, some U.S. soldiers, kill them all and let God sort them out.
	Remember that?
	Well, you know, if that's your philosophy, then the world is far more dangerous than any of us may have feared.
	But in any cases, it's clear that Israel is going to perform a ground assault on Gaza without allowing civilians sufficient time to leave since they can't leave Because it's impossible, because the roads are destroyed, the gas stations are destroyed, the roads are filled with rubble, people have no electricity, no water, and so on.
	How do you leave?
	How do you gather up your belongings?
	You can't just throw your luggage in the back of the station wagon and just tootle on down the road.
	It doesn't work that way when you're being bombed.
	So Israel is asking the impossible in this case.
	Now, In my conversation with Brian Beletic coming up, I ask him the question that is it possible that Israel's actions here are going to cause a backlash globally that actually aids in the plight of the Palestinian people?
	In other words, is Israel, which started out last Saturday appearing as clearly the victim of determined terrorism by Hamas, obviously.
	But the perception of Israel's moral high ground is going to very rapidly devolve as Israel continues killing more civilians in Gaza.
	And especially as Israel enters a ground war in Gaza, which apparently is imminent, then is there a chance that The brutality of Israel's response will actually bring more allies to the Palestinian people and bring more support to the Palestinian people.
	And frankly, the more the Palestinians are oppressed, such as what France is doing, saying, you don't even have the right to wave a flag.
	You can't even protest.
	You can't even speak.
	And the same thing in the UK now, apparently, that...
	The appearance of the oppression of the Palestinian people, even living far outside of Gaza, will actually only alter public opinion rapidly to feel more sympathy for the Palestinian cause, which perhaps is a two-state solution.
	I mean, that has been proposed over, frankly, several decades, by the way.
	As a side note, I also remember the media cheering in the 1990s when Bill Clinton had achieved what they said was the ultimate peace solution in the Middle East.
	Clinton was heralded as a hero for negotiating this peace solution that was supposed to wrap up and end all the wars forever.
	And of course, none of that happened.
	It was all BS. It was all propaganda.
	But I just wanted you to know that Bill Clinton took credit for peace in the Middle East.
	During his administration in the 1990s.
	Guess that didn't work.
	Now, just how much are you being manipulated in all of this?
	There's a question.
	Let me read you an article from informationliberation.com.
	Great website.
	Chris Minahan.
	Here's the headline.
	Biden White House walks back claim that he saw pictures of, quote, terrorists beheading children.
	Admits he has not seen pictures or confirmed such reports.
	The Biden White House on Wednesday night walked back inflammatory claims from the president that he saw, quote, confirmed pictures, admitting to the media that U.S. officials and the president have not seen pictures nor confirmed such reports independently.
	So did Biden, was he making it up?
	The story is being used as atrocity propaganda, says Information Liberation, to justify Israel's indiscriminate bombing of Gaza's young population.
	Biden spread the hoax to the entire world on live television only to have a spokesperson walk it back hours later with a few lines to the media.
	So, did that really happen?
	Or did it not happen?
	Did Joe Biden make it up?
	You know, the whole headline of 40 babies murdered by Hamas.
	Is it real?
	Is it fake?
	Well, you can decide.
	But if you believe everything Joe Biden says, you have an intelligence problem.
	Clearly, because he has an intelligence problem.
	And we're also seeing reports of something that's being described as Israeli supremacy.
	And let me give you another headline here from Information Liberation.
	Israeli rabbi to Christians, quote, you shouldn't be worshipping one Jew, you should be worshipping all of us.
	Israeli rabbi Chaim Richman, the former director of the Temple Institute, told Christians on his podcast that they shouldn't be worshipping one Jew, he referred to Jesus Christ, but instead should be worshipping all of us Jews because we're dying for your sins right now.
	So, woe!
	Keith Woods on YouTube tweeted out, quote, this grotesque supremacy is expressed by Rabbi Chaim Richman, one of the extreme Jewish groups whose mission is to build the third.
	And he goes on and he says, groups like this are responsible for rising tensions in the Holy Land where they have forced Muslim and Christian worshipers out of their holy sites.
	Supremacists like this have support of the Israeli government.
	And it really is fascinating because I've noticed some of this myself where there is a kind of a supremacist attitude among certain people who say, well, you can't criticize us because that's anti-Semitic and therefore we can do anything we want to anybody else.
	We can kill anybody.
	We can denounce anybody.
	We can censor anybody because of who we are and you can't do anything about it.
	And God has chosen us to be the special, wholly chosen ones and everybody else is filth.
	If we say you are, and that's that vibe is becoming more and more apparent to a whole lot of people.
	Very disturbing.
	And here's another important mention of some of the propaganda that's being pushed out there.
	Also from information liberation, Los Angeles Times retracts allegations of Hamas rapes, saying, quote, such reports have not been substantiated.
	So the Los Angeles Times, in an earlier story, had said that Hamas was raping Israelis, and then now they've retracted the claim from a column by Jonah Goldberg, So they actually issued a correction.
	And then Chris Minahan writes, But
	Lauk's mother said on Tuesday that her daughter is still alive and is in a hospital in Gaza.
	So Sam Parker on Twitter tweets out, more fake mass rape propaganda from Zionist mouthpiece Noah Tishby.
	I don't know who Noah Tishby is.
	203,000 likes on Instagram since yesterday.
	Her report uses only two examples to support the atrocity allegations.
	So, there's one view of all of this.
	Look, the one thing that we all know for sure is that there's going to be a lot of propaganda, a lot of fake stories, many of them pushed by the governments themselves, and as a principle,
	If you find yourself feeling like anger is rising up in you and you feel a kind of murderous rage building up, like, yeah, we want to go kill those people, go level that place, go murder these mother effers.
	If you feel that rising up, you've been punked.
	You've been punked by the media, by the governments.
	You've been manipulated.
	They got your number.
	They glitched your neurology.
	They hijacked you.
	They stuck-netted you.
	And I would hope that people have the presence of mind to realize that.
	Let me give you one more example of how people are being manipulated even in conservative media.
	This is rather extraordinary.
	So Breitbart editor or editor at large, Joel Pollack, has done something very disturbing.
	Now, you know, Breitbart.com, they've done extraordinary work as an independent media publisher.
	Especially in the run-up to Trump's victory in 2016.
	And Breitbart still, in my view, does a tremendous amount of excellent work.
	And they have a really great Second Amendment writer whose name escapes me at the moment.
	I apologize.
	But I think Breitbart has the best Second Amendment writer in the business.
	But now...
	There's a tweet from Joel Pollack at Breitbart, and here's what he says.
	And this was on October 7th, by the way.
	So this was the day of the attacks.
	He says, quote, So at least he is recognizing that you shouldn't just mass murder women and children and elderly.
	And he continues, destroy everything that remains, plow it under, and annex it to Israel.
	This is the end for Hamas and Palestinian terror, he says.
	So just to be clear, he's saying carpet bomb the city, the sprawling city of 2.3 million Palestinian civilians.
	And seize it, take it over for Israel, kick everybody out, give them 48 hours, and just take their land.
	And this man writes for Breitbart.
	He's the editor at large.
	And he follows up, he says, there will never be a Palestinian state.
	It's over.
	I mean, wow.
	Wow.
	So these are just a few examples of how not only are emotions running, of course, red hot right now.
	And, you know, I've experienced some insanity directed at me, too, even though my position is to call for not killing people.
	I mean, you know, not killing women and children in particular, not killing the elderly, not killing noncombatives, not killing civilians.
	You know, I am calling for for peace.
	A principled peace and peaceful coexistence, which, frankly, used to be the left-wing liberal position on everything.
	And now the left just wants war, war, war, violence, violence, violence.
	But even I'm getting pushed back calling for peace.
	It's not acceptable to call for peace in this world when everybody wants to kill.
	Because tribalism has been invoked.
	And the big picture is that this is a form, all of this, the propaganda, the faked news, the faked claims, the engineered attacks, the intelligence services origins of Hamas, all of it is a PSYOP. And it's all designed...
	To achieve the rage, the anger, the violence that you are witnessing on Twitter or in the comment sections of various places.
	We had to shut down decentralized TV discussion group on Telegram.
	Just shut it down.
	Because it had devolved into an insane shouting match between Israelis and Palestinians.
	And it had nothing to do with decentralized living.
	So I just shut it down.
	I don't have time.
	If people can't behave like adults, then go do your thing somewhere else.
	I'm not going to host a forum for people to just devolve into senseless rage and violence.
	But you've got to admit, the globalist psyop to turn everybody into a genocidal killing machine, to invoke the tribalism of hatred against the other, whoever the other may be.
	Oh, it's the Palestinians.
	Oh, it's the Israelis.
	Oh, it's the Russians.
	Oh, it's the Ukrainians.
	Oh, it's whoever.
	The tribalism has been very effective by the globalists.
	And so you and I find ourselves living in this world that is now increasingly volatile, increasingly dangerous and unjust.
	Governments cracking down on certain groups and not others, even peaceful protesters like in Paris.
	And governments telling us who we are allowed to hate or even who we are required to hate.
	Because there's one line that we're also hearing now, which is that you're either with Israel or you're with the terrorists, right?
	False argument, intellectually dishonest, but that's what you're hearing.
	You're either with Israel or you're with the terrorists.
	No, none of the above.
	I'm with humanity.
	I am with the people of the human race.
	I am trying to help people survive the global depopulation agenda that is turning people against each other by invoking tribalism And that is outside of your prison planet system of emotional control and psychoneuro, well, psychological operations targeting neurology through various means.
	And by the way, what if the 5G towers have turned people into raging, angry lunatics?
	Because that technology does exist, as we've seen.
	What if 5G is broadcasting hatred, anger, right now?
	And that's also impacting people.
	And then they just triggered it with an event.
	But they're broadcasting anger in order to multiply the response.
	I wouldn't be surprised if something like that's happening.
	I mean, I can't prove it.
	It's just a theory.
	But the technology does exist.
	I wouldn't be surprised if that's happening because I have seen a Jekyll and Hyde kind of transformation among certain people linked to Israel recently where they went from rational, intelligent, discerning people one day, October 6th, and then by October 8th, it was like Jekyll and Hyde.
	It's like, whoa, who are you?
	I don't even know you anymore.
	What the hell?
	And I'm wondering, I really am wondering if there's been something put out there to amplify the rage effects of the Hamas terrorist attacks, but I know for sure that most people are not in control of their emotions.
	They're being manipulated, tribalism is being invoked, and the globalists are laughing their asses off.
	So don't allow yourself to be used by them.
	All right, with that said, I'm going to give you about a 20-minute special report here that is my statement of principles, some of which may overlap what I've just said, but it's a standalone report.
	I'm posting it separately as well.
	After that, you'll have the interview with Brian Berletic, which is extraordinary.
	You don't want to miss that.
	And then the interview with Maria Z. So an action-packed Friday.
	And also, I want to pray...
	Just here publicly, I want to pray for the safety of all people today, especially I pray for the safety of Jewish people today in their synagogues, in their places of worship, wherever they are, in the Jewish universities and the Jewish cities.
	I pray for your safety, and I pray for peace for all people, including the Palestinian people, I mean, I don't pray for peace for Hamas.
	Let me be clear.
	I mean, anybody who carried out acts of terrorism, they need to face justice for their actions.
	But I'm talking about the non-combative civilians who are not Hamas.
	I pray for your safety as well.
	I pray for humanity to drop this tribalism.
	I pray for peace, for abundance, for freedom, for personal liberty, and I pray for human rights.
	And that's a universal prayer for people of every faith and every color, every religion, every country of origin, every gender, every persuasion.
	It's a universal prayer.
	And I pray for that right now.
	I pray in the name of Jesus Christ and God that humanity can reject this satanic manipulation of our emotions.
	That we reject the tribalism that leads to aggression and violence.
	And I pray that the engineers and architects of this evil, of these wars, of these terrorist attacks, of these extremist groups, that the engineers shall be halted, removed from power, To never rise again to express any influence or domination over human society ever again.
	That is my prayer for today.
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	Welcome to this special podcast involving a discussion and statement of first principles surrounding Israel, Hamas, Gaza, Palestinians, and, well, I guess the greater war in the Middle East that has unfolded.
	I'm Mike Adams, thank you for joining me today, and I'll start out by saying that I am a principled person.
	I operate based on principles, and by definition, being that they are principles, they are universally applied.
	Because if they're not universal, then they aren't principles, are they?
	By definition.
	So I'm going to lay out a few principles here, and I'll start out by saying that in our world today, to be a principled person is to be labeled an extremist.
	Just to be clear.
	If you are not principled, if you bend the rules, break the rules, if you are inconsistent in your application of hatred or labeling or whatever, then, well, that's considered normal, that's okay, that's acceptable.
	But if you have principles that are universally applied, then you will be labeled an extremist and you will be attacked and threatened.
	But I have decided it's more important to stick to these principles than to be swayed by lunatics.
	So let me state a few of these principles.
	Principle number one.
	And by the way, we were taught this principle across society.
	I mean, we were demanded to obey this principle for a very long time.
	And it's simply this, that all lives have value.
	All human lives Have value, no matter if it's a black baby in Detroit or an Israeli citizen or a Palestinian citizen or a Ukrainian citizen or a Russian citizen or whoever it may be, Chinese, Hispanic, Mexican, whatever.
	All lives have value.
	Now, it is noteworthy That during the Black Lives Matter riots, especially of 2020, that anyone who said all lives matter, which is really a statement of principles, is essentially what I'm stating here, was considered a racist.
	Yeah, you were called a racist for stating a fundamental key principle that should govern...
	Humanity and human civilization on our planet that all lives do matter.
	All lives have value.
	Another key principle is that it is wrong during a military campaign to target or to take actions that result in the killing of women and children or non-combatives in particular.
	Now, that's mostly women and children and sometimes the elderly and so on.
	This is a principle that has been embraced by Western culture and also Eastern cultures and Middle Eastern cultures throughout known human history, by the way.
	That even when there were wars between nations, and usually men would kill each other, They would not kill the women and the children unless they were particularly evil and wanted to carry out an ethnic cleansing campaign to wipe out an entire population, an entire group.
	So if you're not carrying out genocide and ethnic cleansing, then you spare the women and children.
	That is a core principle.
	There are also rules of war.
	For example, when an enemy is surrendering, you accept their surrender.
	You allow them to surrender.
	And if you are an honorable country, you would even render aid to those enemy soldiers that you have captured.
	For example, if they were wounded, you would treat the wounds.
	You would not just let them die under your custody.
	And eventually you would probably arrange a prisoner swap and then both sides could trade prisoners with each other and then some people would have not died in the war then and could go on with their lives after the war.
	So these are some very important principles that have guided human history for as long as we know it has existed.
	Now, surely many nations have violated these principles from time to time, but those are particularly egregious acts Acts of extreme evil, such as during the Holocaust carried out by the Third Reich against the Jews.
	So that was genocide when the Third Reich decided that they wanted to eliminate Jews from planet Earth to exterminate an entire ethnic group after first labeling them inferior.
	Animals.
	Okay?
	Now, keep that in mind because we're hearing that again.
	But not coming from Germans this time.
	So now we get to the facts of what we are seeing happening in Israel, Gaza, with Hamas and so on.
	And let me be clear and very upfront about this.
	I vehemently reject the outrageous acts of terrorism carried out by Hamas.
	Which is a terrorist group.
	It's a group of extremists, many of whom are based in Gaza, but it does not represent all the civilians of Gaza.
	And it does not represent all Palestinians.
	It is a fringe terror group that was originally created, by the way, by U.S. and Israeli intelligence.
	It was created by the West.
	In order to have an opposition group, in order to justify all kinds of, you know, military buildup and funding and to create crisis whenever they needed one and so on.
	But that's another story.
	And Ron Paul has even just recently warned about this very thing, that Hamas is a creation of the West originally.
	But Hamas is a terror group, no question about it.
	And what Hamas did to Israel in that surprise attack is absolutely unconscionable.
	It is barbaric.
	It is evil.
	It is, you could even say, satanic.
	No question about that.
	And also, for the record, I have no issue whatsoever with any pursuit of individuals who participated in that, who are members of Hamas, who provided aid or funding or logistics or whatever to make that terrorist attack happen against Israel.
	Those individuals who are responsible for that should absolutely be pursued.
	They should be prosecuted.
	They should be held liable, and if the courts decide appropriate, then I would not have any issue whatsoever with the state executing those individuals after they're found guilty through due process, by the way.
	So just to be clear about all of that, I know there are a bunch of Harvard students and Harvard student programs, I think 34 of them, that side with Hamas, which I think is insane.
	And they are being called out, by the way.
	But that is not at all where I'm coming from.
	Remember, my principles are very simple.
	It is wrong to kill innocent people.
	Wrong to kill women and children.
	Wrong to kill civilians.
	Wrong to kill non-combatants.
	And that's exactly what Hamas did.
	They carried out...
	Horrible wrongs that are evil.
	Now comes the part that's difficult to discuss.
	Because the emotions of Israelis are running so red hot right now.
	Let me just say this up front.
	I have been threatened with death if I do not support the mass genocide of Palestinians.
	I've been threatened by Israelis.
	And apparently, some Israelis are very unhappy with my principles.
	Even though my principles are the kind of principles that would lead to peace for all of humanity.
	I.e., don't kill women and children.
	Don't carry out war crimes against people.
	Don't carry out ethnic cleansing and genocide and so on.
	My principles are opposed to the Third Reich, opposed to the Holocaust, opposed to war crimes.
	And, importantly, and this is where I get a lot of heat from Israelis, I am opposed to the genocidal extermination of Palestinian civilians.
	Now, you may find it surprising that that position gets a lot of pushback from Israelis, but what I've come to learn recently is that a surprising majority of Israelis Including some of whom I have known for many years, wholeheartedly support, endorse, and call for genocide against the Palestinian people.
	They want to exterminate all Palestinians, period.
	And they justify it.
	So that's just a fact.
	That's not my opinion.
	And you can see many, many examples of this now all over the internet in the comment sections of every video and YouTube videos.
	The protesters in New York that are pro-Israeli openly calling for complete genocide, the wipeout, the extermination of all Palestinians, period.
	That they say Palestinian people have no right to exist, have no right to occupy Gaza at all.
	And they openly talk about leveling Gaza.
	In fact, Netanyahu and the defense minister Gallant talk about turning Gaza into a pile of rubble and then a tent city.
	And even Lindsey Graham, the senator in the U.S., says, level the place.
	That's an exact quote, level the place.
	Senator Marco Rubio talks about the complete extermination of all Palestinian children and women.
	He endorses that, apparently.
	And This is very disturbing to hear this.
	Why?
	Well, because again, I'm a person of principles and I believe those principles must be universal and I value all human life.
	Now, that doesn't mean that I wouldn't support the court-ordered executions of people who carried out murder.
	Yes, I value all human life, but I also expect people to be held Responsible for the consequences of their actions.
	So if someone carries out murder and terrorism and they are found guilty through due process, then the state, which represents the people, does have the right to terminate the lives of those individuals who took part in that murder.
	I'm completely in agreement with that.
	I actually do support The idea of a death penalty, however, noting that the justice system in the United States is incredibly corrupt.
	And I also know firsthand that the police evidence systems in the United States are massively fraudulent because I own a laboratory myself.
	And I know all the shenanigans that the police labs pull in order to falsely convict people with false DNA evidence, false drug testing evidence, false fingerprint analysis, false hair analysis, all kinds of things.
	So I am very, very cautious about the death penalty as it is applied in the United States, although that's another podcast entirely.
	But in principle, I do agree with the idea that those who carry out acts of terrorism and murder themselves should face being terminated if ordered if a court and due process have concluded that they are responsible for those murderous actions themselves.
	OK, so that's just a principle.
	However, I absolutely take issue with the fact that Israel has cut off the water, the power, the food, and the electricity, well, and fuel to two plus million Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip.
	This act of cutting off the basic necessities of life, cutting off the power to hospitals, cutting off the water to hospitals, cutting off the water to the entire sewage system, I mean, no one can flush toilets.
	No one can wash hands.
	No one can eat or drink.
	No electricity works.
	They cannot communicate.
	They have no way to exit Gaza because the exit to Egypt has been bombed and shut down.
	The fact that Israel is laying siege to a civilian population in Gaza is, by definition, according to the United Nations, that is a war crime.
	It is a war crime because it indiscriminately targets civilian populations who had nothing to do, for the most part, with Hamas or the terrorist attacks on Israel.
	So this is what's known as collective punishment, that you punish an entire group for the actions of a few Who may hide themselves among that group, but the vast majority of the group itself has not engaged in such actions and is not guilty of any such crimes.
	So Israel has decided on collective punishment, and by and large, the Israeli people, at least the ones that I have spoken to and some of the ones that have been threatening me, they now openly advocate the complete extermination of the Palestinian people Because of what Hamas did to Israel.
	And yes, emotions are running red hot right now, absolutely.
	And part of that is understandable because of the particular viciousness of some of the crimes that have been carried out against children.
	But I would remind you that in 1990, when...
	When the neocons in the United States wanted to wage a war against Iraq, they fabricated completely false stories about Iraqi soldiers murdering children in incubators.
	And they even found a Kuwaiti witness, so to speak, that they had testify over this.
	But it turned out to all be fabricated.
	But it was the story of the horrific murder of children that outraged people and got people to back the war against Iraq, which was also falsified under weapons of mass destruction, another total fabrication and lie by the intelligence community.
	So when you hear Joe Biden say that he has seen photos of Israeli children who were beheaded by Hamas, But he won't show you the photos and no one else can confirm the photos.
	Be very mindful of what happened in 1990 because this ploy of demonizing your enemies by claiming they do horrible things to babies, this has been used over and over again, especially by the intelligence services of the West, just to be clear.
	Now, it may have happened.
	But just because Joe Biden said it happened, that absolutely does not mean it happened.
	And if you find yourself agreeing with Joe Biden on anything, you should have your IQ checked, by the way.
	And allow me to remind you, by the way, that when Russia launched missiles at Ukraine and damaged Ukraine's electrical power grid, causing many hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of Ukrainians to be plunged into darkness for some period of time, most of those were short-lived and electricity was back on within a day or so.
	But when that happened, the president of the EU, Ursula von der Leyen, she stated that these actions by Russia consisted of a war crime, because she said in particular that if you cut off the electricity, the water to civilian populations, that is a war crime. the water to civilian populations, that is a war crime.
	She is silent about Israel doing this to Gaza.
	And so is the corporate media, so is everybody in the West.
	But you see...
	The conundrum that I face is that, again, I am a person of principle, and I believe those principles must be universal.
	So, no matter who does it, if you cut off the power, the water, and the food to a large civilian population, that is a war crime.
	Whether it's the United States doing it, whether it's Russia doing it, or whether it is Israel doing it.
	But what we are told, what I'm told,...is that it's not a war crime when Israel does it.
	I'm literally told this, that yes, it's a war crime when Russia does it, but not a war crime when Israel does it.
	And when I ask why, I'm told that, you know, well, because Israel has this history of being persecuted.
	Therefore, the logic goes, well, non-logic, therefore, Israel has kind of a free pass to carry out war crimes with impunity today...
	And I'm sorry, I don't buy that twisted logic.
	I don't, I mean, that is false thinking to say that because horrible things happened to Jews in the Holocaust, Therefore, it is okay for Israel to pursue its own holocaust against whatever named enemies that it wants to destroy.
	That is not okay because I thought that the phrase never again meant never again, not by anybody.
	I didn't think it meant never again unless we want to do it to somebody.
	Which is what I'm being told I should accept.
	So again, I am being threatened and told that if I don't support genocide against the Palestinians, then I am a bad person and that violence is, they say, the answer to what's going on right now.
	I'm also being told that to value the lives of Palestinians is a horrible thing.
	And I'm being told this by people who their ancestors were themselves persecuted by the Nazis.
	So, first of all, just in case you're curious, I do not bow down to irrational, emotional, violent people who are threatening me.
	No matter who they are, it doesn't matter to me what their nationality is, what their color is, whatever.
	I stand with my principles and I speak this out in order to hopefully help set an example and provide a template to other people that principles matter.
	And if we are to even exist...
	As human beings on this planet, if the human race is to have any longevity at all, we must have certain principles that value life.
	That's why I'm opposed to the systematic abortion of children, which, by the way, is endorsed by the government of Israel, to murder Israeli babies.
	So if you're wondering, actually, who's murdering the most Israeli babies?
	It's the abortion centers, not Hamas.
	That's a statistical fact.
	You can be all emotionally charged about it, you can get all pissed off about it, but it doesn't change the fact that that is a fact.
	Same thing is true in the United States.
	The abortion centers are murdering hundreds of thousands of babies a year, maybe more depending on who you ask.
	In America.
	So the most violence against babies is actually committed through abortion, not terrorism.
	But that's an inconvenient fact that most people just absolutely refuse to recognize.
	They don't want to hear that because people would rather live without principles.
	They would rather live in their world of tribalism.
	Which is exactly what we're seeing right now with many Israelis, perhaps most, tribalism.
	It is, destroy this other tribe.
	No matter what.
	Oh, forget principles.
	That's what Gallant said, the defense minister.
	He's like, we are abandoning the rules of war.
	It's a free-for-all, basically.
	I'm paraphrasing, but that's what he said.
	He's essentially giving his soldiers free reign to go into Gaza and simply execute anyone on site, even if they're surrendering, even if they're women, And this is just pure bloodlust tribalism, and I cannot support it.
	I will not be threatened into supporting it.
	And I will call it out for the crime that it is.
	What Israel is doing to Gaza is, by every definition, a crime against humanity.
	It is ethnic cleansing.
	It is genocide.
	And all the threats in the world do not change that fact.
	I operate as a person of principles, and I would apply these same principles of valuing innocent civilian life to any group.
	Black people, Hispanic people, Asian people, any ethnicity, any religion, including Muslims and Jews and Sikhs, any group.
	It is a universal principle.
	And I will not be swayed from that principle that By people with bloodlust in their eyes, who are emotionally charged, and have turned into raging, hate-filled, murderous, genocidal lunatics.
	And I pray that they come to their senses.
	I pray for peace, which I know will get me labeled an extremist.
	Maybe an anti-Semite, because if you call for peace, apparently you're an anti-Semite now.
	Or if you call for peace in Ukraine, you're an agent of Putin.
	I will continue to call for peace because I know who's behind the war and the violence.
	It's the globalists.
	It's the neocons.
	All of this is engineered.
	Everything that you are seeing right now has been scripted.
	It's part of theater.
	You're living in a giant Truman show.
	I mean, the deaths are real.
	Don't get me wrong.
	I'm not saying that this whole thing was faked.
	The deaths are real, but the script...
	Wrote it all out in advance.
	This has all been planned in order to invoke precisely the kinds of emotions that we are seeing right now from especially many Israelis.
	Remember that anger is designed to bypass your rational mind.
	It's designed to take you out of your humanity and push you into an animalistic response.
	And I am seeing that in spades right now among Israeli people.
	They have been Their minds have been hijacked to invoke extreme hatred and bloodlust so that they don't think rationally about what they are approving or endorsing as the next action steps, which apparently will be a military raid on Gaza door-to-door mass slaughter executions of Palestinian civilians.
	The reason that the Israeli people are being, in essence, hijacked and ordered not to recognize what they're about to do is because the globalists need an escalation of war in the Middle East.
	And they know that Israel's attack on Gaza will bring in Hezbollah from Lebanon and probably Syria soon after.
	And then the greater world war will commence involving Iran and Russia and so on.
	And this is exactly what the globalists have wanted.
	They tried to spark World War III with Ukraine.
	Russia refused to launch nuclear weapons.
	Well, so now, and public support for more funding for Ukraine has just about run out, so now they've unfurled Hamas to carry out a terrorist attack on Israel, knowing the reaction would be mass outrage.
	Bloodlust and support for anything, any escalation, even if it leads to World War III, which is exactly the desired goal of the globalists.
	So if you find yourself filled with seething hatred and violence and bloodlust and you just want to kill, kill, kill, understand you have been manipulated into that.
	You have been hijacked.
	Your neurology has been hijacked.
	You are a puppet of the globalists at that point.
	If you don't want to be enslaved, if you don't want to see World War III, you don't want to see billions of people die from what the globalists have planned for all of us, then back off of your anger, regain control of your conscious mind, and get to your core principles of what you believe in and the principles that are sustainable for the future of humanity.
	Embrace those principles and help share those with others, and we might have a chance to negotiate a way through this that doesn't result in the end of the world.
	So whether we all live or die, if I die in World War III, at least I will die as a man of principle, not as a tribalistic, animalistic, bloodlust, vicious, violent woman killer.
	Which is sadly what a lot of IDF soldiers are about to become.
	I pray for them too.
	I pray that they come to their senses.
	And I pray for peace that does not make me an anti-Semite, does not make me an extremist.
	It makes me a member of the human race.
	So thank you for listening.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of naturalnews.com and also, of course, brighteon.com.
	Take care.
	Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, joining you from my home studio today because we're joined by a very special guest who is in a completely different country, different time zone, so that's why I'm doing it from here.
	And our guest today, a returning guest, and someone whose work I greatly admire is Brian Berletic from The New Atlas, and his channel on YouTube is called The New Atlas, and he joins us today to talk about what's going on in the world because it seems like there's nothing happening whatsoever.
	So welcome, Brian Berletic.
	It's an honor to have you on.
	Thank you so much for having me back on.
	It's an honor and a pleasure.
	I'm thrilled to have you on.
	As you know, I listen to every one of your broadcasts, by the way.
	And so thank you for what you do.
	And I just want to share with my audience real quickly that the reason I very much appreciate your work and your video reports, Brian, is because you bring a level of rationality and really reasoned analysis to everything you're talking about.
	And even you've been focused on Ukraine, of course, a lot.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	No kidding.
	Okay, you got me blushing a little bit.
	I wasn't aware of that, but let's jump right into the issues.
	I know we can always learn from each other, so I want to help share your expertise with the audience.
	Let me start out by saying something that will be controversial, and that is the PSYOP It has a new chapter, the Global PSYOP, which started out with, I stand for the science, and then it became I stand for Ukraine, and now it's I stand with Israel.
	So people keep falling for the same PSYOP, just in different flavors, over and over again.
	What is your big picture perspective now of what is rapidly becoming called a holy war, which is kind of scary for lots of reasons, now in Israel involving Palestinian civilians, Gaza Strip, and all of that?
	So you bring up a really interesting point.
	We see these new chapters, and a lot of these chapters are actually remakes, and we've seen the fighting between Israel and Hamas erupt at different times over the years, and then there's these periods of relative calm, and now we see the fighting erupting at a very convenient time.
	We see it erupting at a time where the U.S. proxy war against Russia, It's faltering in Ukraine.
	The Ukrainian offensive has, by almost all admissions, failed.
	And it was a perfect time for distractions.
	We don't have any actual evidence that this was all planned and engineered and timed, but it is very convenient, and we can see the United States and its allies shifting their attention away from this growing failure in Ukraine toward Israel, supporting Israel.
	You mentioned a holy war, and this is very troubling.
	And it is not about religion.
	It isn't.
	But they understand that religion is very powerful, and it draws people in.
	It encourages them to switch off their reasoning and their objectivity and picking sides.
	And I just want to point out to people who might be skeptical about this, Jews, Muslims, and Christians have lived in the Middle East together in peace for generations.
	And that legacy continues even to this day in certain places, if you know where to look.
	In Syria, there are ancient Christian communities that still exist.
	They preserve a very old version, I guess you would say, of Christianity.
	And it is the Syrian government that protects them, and had protected them, and the Syrian Arab army who fought and died trying to protect these communities.
	And the government is headed by President Bashar al-Assad, who is an al-Await Shia Muslim, and the Syrian Arab army is mostly Sunni Muslim.
	So you have two different types of Muslims joining together to fight and protect these Christian communities.
	Something else people don't know is that the largest community of Jews in the Middle East outside of Israel is actually in Iran.
	A lot of people don't know that.
	They live there peacefully, protected by the government.
	They're even given a seat in the Iranian government representation, even though the total population isn't large enough under the rules and regulations.
	They made an exception for the Jewish community, an ancient community, In Iran.
	So people should keep that in mind.
	It is possible even today for all of these groups to live in peace, to work, and even fight alongside each other.
	So what is actually driving this conflict that we see erupt between Israel and Hamas?
	And who is Hamas and who is behind Hamas?
	So a lot of people are jumping to conclusions.
	They're listening to the media.
	The same media that we know lied to us about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
	Absolutely.
	Yes, lied to us about a certain health so-called pandemic.
	And now they're lying to us about Hamas.
	They say it's a fact sponsored by Iran and, to a lesser degree, Syria.
	Again, what people forgot, which was even reported in the Western media, Hamas went to Syria to fight alongside ISIS and Al-Qaeda, all of whom were backed by the U.S. in the proxy war against the government in Tabascus.
	That was something that was even reported in the Western media.
	We remember Israel's role in this, the government and the military, the population of Israel, that is a separate issue.
	They were actually providing support and cover for Extremists, including ISIS, along their borders.
	During that fighting, they were giving ambulance rides to ISIS. And that was even reported in the Israeli media.
	People were outraged by that.
	So if you look at all of these different factors, we can see that there's much more to this conflict than just evil Hamas fighting the victims in Israel.
	But then...
	There's more to it than that as well.
	Yes, but the masses of people on either side of this conflict, of course, probably know none of the information that you just mentioned.
	The general information consumer out there is day-to-day oblivious to the geopolitical events of the world.
	And they believe...
	You know, it's funny.
	Let me put it this way.
	In the last few days since this Hamas attack took place, I have witnessed personally people that I know who are Israeli who were completely aware of what was going on.
	They were skeptical of the government when it came to Ukraine versus Russia.
	They were skeptical of the government proclamation surrounding vaccines.
	They did not believe anything that Joe Biden said.
	They did not believe Newland or Blinken or Sullivan.
	They did not believe the State Department until Hamas.
	Now, suddenly, Joe Biden, they're all on board with Biden.
	They're all on board with the State Department.
	They stand with Israel.
	All it took was one day of a terror attack, which many people I've interviewed believe was allowed to penetrate the defenses of Israel, and That's all it took, and then these people who were aware,
	awake, rational, they have become extremely emotional, reactive, vengeance-oriented, and now I have people telling me, people that I have known to be reasonable people, telling me that if I don't support the complete genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people, then I am an enemy of Israel.
	Imagine that.
	I can't imagine that because I have the same problem over and over again.
	Each time, as you say, a new chapter is written and introduced to the public, you have to go through the whole process all over again, looking at the fundamental issues that are driving this and explain to people what is actually happening versus these narratives that were being presented.
	Now, what Hamas did was there were multiple elements to it.
	it.
	They did attack military targets, but they also did indiscriminately kill civilians.
	And you have to ask yourself, why did they do that?
	They had such a successful military operation.
	Why did they include this element of terrorism?
	And just as you say, I know people who are very rational, objective, fair.
	And when they saw this, they were siding with All of those people there were settlers.
	They all deserved what they got.
	And I have to say that, no, a war crime is a war crime.
	It doesn't matter who commits it.
	Agreed.
	That's a core principle that we share, that killing women and children is wrong when Hamas does it, and it's also wrong when Israel does it.
	Absolutely.
	And not only that, I'm here in Thailand.
	I have a lot of Thai friends who are very politically aware.
	A lot of them are sympathetic to the Palestinian cause.
	Not Hamas, but the Palestinian cause.
	When they saw Hamas slaughtering Thai laborers, these are people who have no political awareness.
	They just went there to make money, to work, and that was it.
	They weren't involved in any way whatsoever, and they were slaughtered by these Hamas fighters.
	It's inexcusable, and if we start excusing that, You're fighting a cause that you think is just, but now you're becoming like those that you claim you're fighting, then what is even the purpose of fighting in the first place?
	Now, what people have to understand is that the people in, say, Gaza, they live in, and many people describe it this way, an open-air prison.
	It's blockaded on almost all sides by Israel.
	Egypt also restricts a lot of what goes across the border.
	And it's complicated because Hamas, its origins lie with the Muslim Brotherhood.
	The Muslim Brotherhood and Israel were both created by the British Empire and also the United States, which took up the torch of the British Empire as the UK faded.
	Israel as a country and the Muslim Brotherhood as an organization have been used for decades and decades to advance U.S. It's hard to explain this to people because they see Israel, say, carpet bombing Gaza.
	It's outrageous.
	That is a war crime.
	They're doing it deliberately.
	They announced that we don't care about precision, we care about damage.
	We're cutting food and fuel to Gaza.
	They know that that's going to shut down hospitals.
	That is a war crime.
	And so people are genuinely and legitimately outraged.
	They want justice.
	They want to fight back.
	They want vengeance.
	The problem is that all of that, all of those emotions, all of those reasons to fight are channeled into an organization like Hamas that is more or less controlled opposition, just like Al Qaeda, just like ISIS. So you have people who have a genuine, just cause.
	And then their energies are being channeled into something entirely unjust or using tactics and a strategy that are unjust.
	And actually, this leads me to a really interesting question for you, which will take advantage of your global knowledge in answering.
	But with Ukraine and Russia and NATO, we saw many miscalculations by the West.
	They miscalculated when they shut off Russia from the SWIFT system.
	They thought they would collapse the Russian economy.
	Russia actually became stronger, its currency became stronger, and Russia began to source more locally, creating more resilience for its industrial production base, right?
	Meanwhile, Western Europe was devastated by the economic loss of the natural gas from Gazprom.
	So that was a gross miscalculation, probably, by America, or America is the enemy of Western Europe, one or the other, right?
	Yeah, or both, right.
	There have been many, many miscalculations, and a lot of the efforts by the West have actually had so much backlash, it has, as we say in America, boomeranged back on them.
	Is there a chance, in your view, that Israel's first siege of Gaza, which the UN describes as a war crime, but also then what appears to be an imminent assault on Gaza...
	Could also actually help the Palestinian independence cause by raising awareness of, let's say, brutality carried out by the Israeli government against Palestinian civilians who are not Hamas.
	I think that's actually a really good point.
	We've actually seen this in the past when Israel has bombed Gaza.
	We've seen international outrage and it gets stronger and stronger each time this happens.
	This time we watched Hamas carry out war crimes, atrocities that have really, I would say, turned public sentiment definitely against Hamas and maybe giving them pause for thought supporting this whole issue.
	But I think ultimately the brutality that is now unfolding, carried out by the Israeli government and its military, I think that is going to override whatever Hamas did during those several days they were carrying out And it will continue to turn public opinion against Israel and against Israel's backers.
	Going back to your original question, what is going on on a global scale?
	We watch the U.S. involved in Ukraine.
	Why?
	Why are they involved in Ukraine?
	They're antagonizing, trying to encircle and contain Russia.
	We've talked about Taiwan in the past, how the United States...
	Has politically captured Taiwan.
	They're using them as a proxy.
	They have no intention of the people living a long and happy life there.
	They fully plan to do to Taiwan what they've done to Ukraine.
	And why do we think that Israel, as a proxy of U.S. geopolitical ambitions, is going to be spared this fate?
	And why do we see all of these conflicts now?
	And you talked about their miscalculations.
	Because the world is changing.
	They're out of time.
	They wanted to reassert Western hegemony over the entire planet following World War II. They struggled for decades to do this.
	And now we see multipolarism emerging.
	They're running out of time.
	They talk about, you know, Russia and Iran and China rushing towards some sort of global conflict.
	They're not rushing toward any conflict.
	They know time is on their side.
	It's the United States that is out of time.
	They're the ones rushing toward conflict.
	That's why they're making this calculation.
	That's a really, really good point.
	The U.S. empire is rushing into the provocation of conflict, which they did with Russia, and they are now trying to do with China.
	You're exactly right.
	Time is on China's side, for example, just in the construction of naval vessels.
	You know, that stunning analysis that came out a couple weeks ago that showed that China has 232 times the capacity output of naval vessels than does the United States Navy.
	I was shocked when I saw that.
	And if you understand that dynamic, it means that China wants to wait a few years before asserting whatever, perhaps an embargo of Taiwan or conflict with U.S. Navy in the South China Seas or whatever it is, or just maybe patrolling trade routes.
	its economic output while the United States is carrying out sabotage operations and false flag operations and trying to cause chaos everywhere that it doesn't control, right?
	Because that's what the U.S. does.
	But isn't it, well, I guess I'm just confirming what you're saying, that time is on the side of China and Russia and even Iran, not the United States.
	So I agree with your assessment, Brian.
	Yes.
	And people need to keep that in mind when they see the United States making these decisions We have to ask ourselves, why are they making these decisions?
	Why are they waging this proxy war against Russia and Ukraine that they clearly cannot?
	Why would they decide to do that?
	Just because they feel they don't have any other option.
	They do have an option, though.
	It's for the United States to stop this brand of foreign policy where they're meddling, interfering, and entangling themselves around the globe.
	And to just become another nation on Earth working among all other nations rather than trying to impose itself on all other nations.
	And if they did that, I think America could have, you know, they would reform, they would revitalize, they would work on their industry instead of obsessing with competing with China, for example, a country with a much larger population, industrial base, Its education system has far surpassed the United States in both quality and quantity.
	You cannot compete with that.
	You have to recognize your rational place in the world.
	If you're a fraction of the global population, yet you demand hegemony over the whole population, is that rational?
	Yeah, it's absolutely clear that the US empire, as I call it now, is operating as if it were a post-World War II era where all the other economies had been destroyed and only the US was remaining and could sail the high seas of the world and demand anything from anyone.
	That is no longer the case, clearly.
	But let me bring in another element, which is this multi-front war that is the result of these U.S. policies that you are describing.
	So we found out over the last year and a half that the U.S. cannot supply much in the way of additional munitions or military equipment to Ukraine.
	And, of course, the U.K., bottom of the barrel, as they say, we run out of munitions.
	The same thing true across Western Europe.
	In fact, hundreds of thousands of artillery shells were taken out of storehouses in Israel and sent to Ukraine.
	And so Israel is left without those extra supplies.
	Now, the United States moving naval vessels into the Mediterranean Sea in order to apparently provide cover for whatever Israel is about to do, the U.S. is going to find itself in a two-front war starting perhaps tomorrow.
	And then China on top of that, because they're trying to provoke issues with China, How delusional is the State Department and the Biden administration in thinking that America can fight and win a three-front war when it couldn't even win a one-front war with Russia?
	Absolutely.
	And the worst part about all of this is the U.S. recently announced that they are now going to send artillery shells to Israel.
	So they took artillery shells out of Israel.
	Now they're going to send them back to They didn't have any at all to spare for Ukraine.
	They had to send as many as possible to Ukraine.
	And that was just to prolong.
	There was no prospect of actually winning.
	And now they're going to divide that amount of aid, send some to Ukraine, some to Israel.
	So that's, again, two fronts, two proxy wars.
	And now they're openly planning on a third with China over the status of Taiwan.
	So It is completely delusional, but people in, say, the State Department, people in Washington, people on Wall Street, in London, in Brussels, they have a supremacist mindset, and they cannot separate that from the reality of the situation they're in.
	They think that they are superior and that somehow it's just going to work out.
	Even though none of the facts add up to that conclusion.
	This is what's extraordinary to witness as an American here in America, is to watch the administration.
	I think that they can print their way out of every problem like they print money, as if they could print 155 artillery shells.
	But you can't.
	You actually have to make them, which means you need minerals.
	You need metals.
	You need industrial output.
	You need workers.
	You need cotton linters.
	You need gunpowder.
	You can't print that out of nothing.
	You use the word delusional.
	I completely agree.
	We are living among an administration.
	Kind of reminds me, actually, of when Adolf Hitler was ordering the movement of imaginary units of his military.
	Have the Second Army attack in the Ardennes.
	The Second Army is destroyed, sir.
	There is no Second Army.
	That's what this feels like to be.
	What do you think?
	Absolutely.
	I don't want to do the comparison with Nazi Germany because some people...
	You know, everyone compares them to Nazi Germany, but it is actually an appropriate comparison.
	It is exactly the case.
	So we're watching the United States struggle with this reality versus what their mindset is.
	And why is this?
	It's because the leadership in the United States, if you listen to them talk amongst their think tanks, when they're at these forums where they think most of the general population isn't listening, They demonstrate a complete disconnect from the actual mechanics of daily life.
	I think a lot of these people have never had a real job in their life.
	They don't understand how industry works.
	And just as you say, they think that they can print all of these resources out of thin air just as they print money out of thin air.
	And now they're realizing that they can't.
	We hear what their proposed solution is, say, to the conflict in Ukraine.
	We'll just expand production as if you just Push a button and it expands.
	It doesn't.
	It could take years to do that.
	When we hear people talk about, we can compete with China, we just have to bring the industry back.
	That could take a generation to do.
	It probably will take a generation to do.
	If they were to start now, which they haven't seriously even begun.
	Well, let me add to that, Brian.
	As a business owner that owns a significant large warehouse and manufacturing facility for, you know, food and supplements and a laboratory and all of that, I can assure you...
	I don't know if you've heard this from other people, but the status of being able to hire workers in the United States has collapsed.
	There are virtually no workers who want to work in a warehouse at almost any wage.
	The culture of what used to be a strong work ethic in the United States is completely gone.
	And a lot of this happened with COVID when everybody was told to work at home.
	And now none of them want to go back to work.
	And they often refuse to go back to work.
	And they complain about commutes and so on.
	So somehow the culture of the workers in the United States has been shattered.
	And I would imagine that whether you're trying to manufacture food, like in my case, or artillery shells or tank tracks or whatever, there's nobody that wants to do that work, period.
	And I can't help but think, this is just a theory, I can't prove it, but I can't help but think the Pentagon needs a few million illegal workers to cross the border, because that's who's going to be making the munitions.
	That's my guess.
	Well, I mean, this has been the problem of empires all throughout history.
	The leadership becomes complacent.
	They think that at a certain point they don't need hard work to continue moving forward.
	Everything will just come to them.
	We see this mentality, especially in Washington, even on Wall Street.
	We see a lot of these massive companies, corporations in the United States They're not run by, say, Boeing or Lockheed.
	They're not run by people interested in military industrial production.
	They're run by investors who only care about squeezing every single penny out of every process in the corporation, even if in the long term it's unsustainable, even if in the long term it runs contra to the self-preservation of that industry.
	And this is the huge problem the collective West has, and they complain about this.
	In their articles about expanding production, no one wants to do it because there's no profit in it.
	Meanwhile, you have Russia and China.
	It's a state-owned enterprise, and it works toward a purpose, not profits.
	They make profits, of course, but that's secondary to the purpose, which is to make sure that Russia and China have enough weapons, warplanes, armored vehicles, ammunition for the large-scale protracted conflicts They think that they will be involved in the future.
	And on top of that all, Russia was thinking about fighting this conflict in Eastern Europe on its border as a means of defending itself.
	China is talking about waging war off their own coast.
	They're not talking about and they're not producing a military that's even capable of projecting military power.
	Anywhere beyond that.
	So these are the advantages that Russia and China alone, let alone combined, have over the United States and Europe.
	It's one of these fundamental factors that's going to determine the outcome of all of this.
	There's also an economic variance that I think is worth noting here, and I don't recall, it might have been Bloomberg that did this analysis.
	I'd have to check my notes, but The analysis of the cost of production of one standard round of 155 artillery in the United States was roughly around $6,000, but that Russia could produce an equivalent round for about $600.
	So, Russia has, you know, at one-tenth the cost of resources can produce the same thing that the U.S. can.
	And this also then helps explain, I think, why Russia is often cited as having a ten-to-one artillery advantage, actually, in the conflict in Ukraine.
	Imagine being able to fire ten times your artillery shells for the same price that your enemy, your strategic enemy, paid for, you know, for one round.
	That's a major factor.
	Yeah.
	Yes, absolutely.
	They're producing more for cheaper.
	And if you look at, say, the Russian education system, they're pumping out almost the equivalent total number of science, technology, engineering, and mathematic graduates as the United States, despite having a smaller population.
	And of course, China is producing many times more, millions more every single year.
	And then when you have those people entering the workplace, That is another enabler of their respective industries.
	And the cost in the United States, when you look at why things cost more, is because you have an entire economy that is utterly obsessed with profits.
	Everything is inflated.
	The cost of everything is inflated in the United States.
	If you talk about health care, everything is artificially inflated.
	The cost of something in the United States versus, say, here in Thailand is...
	Many times more expensive, and that distorts the entire economy.
	I'm not against profits.
	You look in Russia and China, they're not disinterested in profits, but they understand if you want to sustain your economy, there are certain things that you have to do to ensure that the pursuit of blind profit in the short term doesn't disrupt everything in the long term.
	It's a balance.
	Let me add to that, because I would argue, Brian, that what we're witnessing so often in the United States isn't even, of course, free enterprise.
	It's the government picking winners in the marketplace by providing subsidies to certain industries that are favored by the government, such as the electric vehicle industry.
	And I dare say the current UAW strike that is continuing and expanding in the United States, which is causing havoc with the supply chain of...
	Vehicles and even workplace diesel trucks and what have you.
	That's because the government pushed EVs on these companies, EVs that people don't want to buy, therefore cutting into the profits, therefore making it more difficult for the companies to meet the demands of compensation of the workers leading to the strike.
	So here we have government intervention, not free market dynamics.
	If it were free market dynamics, Ford and Chrysler and so on would just respond to, okay, what do the customers want to buy?
	Well, they want to buy reliable combustion engine vehicles because they don't have to wait eight hours to fill up the gas, you know?
	But that's not allowed to take place anymore in America.
	It becomes even more complicated.
	When you look at unions in the United States, you find they're often influenced by the very forces they're supposedly organizing against.
	So it becomes very complicated.
	At the end of the day, you know, we could talk all day about everything that is wrong with the U.S. economy.
	But it does come back down to this.
	You're absolutely right.
	It's not a free enterprise.
	It's not a free market.
	It is the blind pursuit of profits by monopolies who jealously and viciously carve out these and then maintain these monopolies at the cost of absolutely everyone, including themselves in the long term, because we can see how unsustainable it is.
	I don't see any other country in the world that does this.
	You see that in each respective society you have a segment of the population that is tempted to do this, to pursue profits at the cost of everything else.
	But it's tempered.
	And there's a balance.
	And that's what allows all of these other countries to continue moving forward.
	A country with a huge amount of human resources, natural resources, just the size of the U.S. population, they should not be having these problems.
	They will never be as powerful and as influential as China when China fully rises.
	powerful nations on the earth, one of the most influential nations.
	It's up to them to decide if that influence is going to be positive or they're going to continue with what they're doing now.
	Clearly, just the geography of North America is an incredible gift if it were properly recognized.
	But I want to shift gears back to the Middle East, if you don't mind, because I'd like your analysis of what happens next, assuming Israel makes good on its promise to send apparently up to 300,000 IDF soldiers and tanks and so on into Gaza to conduct an armed...
	Leveling of Gaza, door-to-door, killing, arresting, executing.
	It seems like all of those are in their plans.
	And then also, by the way, Hezbollah has promised that that's a line in the sand for them.
	And then they promised to attack from southern Lebanon.
	And there's already conflict with Syria.
	There's armored vehicles, some movement being detected in Jordan.
	And of course, there's always Iran waiting to see how this goes.
	What is your assessment of what may unfold?
	I'm not going to ask you to make a solid prediction.
	There's too many variables.
	But what are the trends we should look for if Israel attempts the military takeover of Gaza?
	It'll be protracted.
	It'll be extremely bloody for Israel.
	A lot of these reservists being called up are actually going to be sent to the north, northern Israel, to guard against Hezbollah in case they decide to intervene.
	I would say Hezbollah, entirely different than Hamas, a completely different mindset.
	They're very practical.
	They're very strategic.
	They say that they will intervene, but I think they understand that if they were to, they would be putting themselves at a complete disadvantage and unnecessarily putting in danger the people of Lebanon who they protect.
	That is their purpose for existing, to protect people.
	Lebanon and to protect and work with their allies, which are primarily Syria and Iran.
	So I'm not sure if they will intervene.
	But if they did, yes, it would obviously set the stage for a wider escalation.
	We see Israel shooting missiles into Syria.
	Right now, they attacked two airports.
	You know, they're in the middle of what they claim is some existential threat from Hamas.
	And now they're launching missiles into Syria.
	And remember, I said Hamas actually went to Syria to fight against the government, against the military, against Iran, against Russia.
	So it looks as if Israel is looking...
	To use this as a provocation to escalate.
	And like I pointed out before, you see US proxies like Ukraine and Taiwan, they pursue a policy that runs contrary to their self-preservation.
	I believe Israel does as well.
	That's a really critical point, because I agree with your assessment.
	I see Israel on a course of action that is not in the interest of the Israeli people, that actually subjects Israel to far more dangerous opponents than Hamas.
	You know, Hamas can be dealt with, but...
	How do you compete with the military of Turkey, for example?
	You don't.
	Or Egypt, for that matter.
	The number of tanks and artillery and aircraft and armored vehicles that are possessed by all these various nations that surround Israel, they dwarf Israel's military might as much as the media likes to pump that up.
	We just saw guys with parachutes defeat the entire border.
	I mean, so you can't tell me that Israel can defeat the militaries of all these other nations.
	Should they decide to do to Israel what Israel is doing to Gaza?
	Yeah, it becomes complicated.
	A lot of people say, look at these Arab nations surrounding Israel, and they're always...
	Crying about the Palestinians, but they never do anything to step in and help.
	Again, it's complicated.
	Hamas was deliberately created through cooperation between the U.S., Israel, their Arab allies in the region.
	They wanted to create an extremist organization that would poison everyone against the Palestinian cause.
	And so you have Egypt.
	Egypt is reluctant to assist Hamas, which The Muslim Brotherhood was being used by the United States to undermine and overthrow governments all across the region during the Arab Spring.
	And the Muslim Brotherhood set the stage in Syria for the protracted U.S. proxy war Toward regime change there.
	So they want to help the Palestinian people.
	Their cause is just, but Hamas is problematic.
	It prevents them from coming in and doing that.
	And a lot of people always ask me, because I get accused by people on both sides of being pro-Hamas or pro-Israel, I'm neither.
	I want to see the Palestinian people live in Side by side with Israel in peace, it can be done.
	We saw Iran and Saudi Arabia result there.
	Supposedly, you know, they were implacable enemies.
	Now they're resolving their issues.
	It can happen with Israel and Palestine, but we have to cut out these external factors driving it.
	Yes, yes.
	And by the way, the way I answer that question when people ask me or accuse me is, look, I'm pro-humanity.
	I believe that all lives have value, and I believe it is always wrong to murder innocent civilians, non-combatives, and especially women and children and elderly and people in hospitals and so on.
	And I know you agree with me on those basic principles.
	It's just that we live in a world now where principles are now selectively embraced or enforced.
	You know, remember Ursula von der Leyen said that it was a crime against humanity when Russia launched missiles at Ukraine and took out Ukraine's electrical infrastructure for some period of time.
	That was a crime against humanity.
	She said when Israel does it, laying siege to Gaza, she says nothing because when Israel does it, it's not a crime.
	But when Russia does it, it is a crime.
	So that means so that's not a principle.
	It's not a principle when you selectively apply it.
	Principles, by definition, have to be universally applied.
	The laws have to apply to all of us or they aren't laws.
	Right.
	I absolutely agree with that.
	I'm not sitting on the fence.
	I'm not one of these people who...
	I want to sit on the fence and I want to be a moral purist, but I do understand that what's going on right now creates a vicious cycle of violence that has no possible way of ever ending this conflict.
	It perpetuates it.
	It's deliberately designed to perpetuate it.
	People have to understand, if this...
	Conflict between Israel and the Palestinians.
	If this was not going on, think about how much more difficult it would be for the United States to justify its involvement in the wider Middle East and even North Africa.
	They always used their support for Israel before that, also Saudi Arabia.
	They always used that as a pretext to remain involved in the region.
	And remember Kuwait also, vis-a-vis Iraq.
	Well, right, yeah, back in the 1990s, it was a humanitarian mission to liberate the people of Iraq from their leaders.
	Well, the people of Iraq did not want to be liberated from them, right?
	And ask the people of Libya the same question, right?
	But, you know, Hillary Clinton came and saw and killed Qaddafi and bragged about it.
	And that's been the U.S. policy going on generations now.
	And I get the feeling that more and more people are waking up to this, despite the fact that some are bamboozled by it.
	But as we see with...
	Bricks nations and the currency wars and China selling off U.S. treasuries and de-dollarization and India and Russia trading in the rupee or trading with China in the yuan and so on.
	The world is actually ditching the U.S. empire little by little, but steadily.
	Absolutely.
	This is the rise of multipolarism displacing U.S.-led unipolarism.
	And it's done exactly that way.
	Because I often try to talk about solutions in our everyday life.
	You know, become more self-sufficient.
	Try to move away from these toxic corporations that hold these monopolies.
	Try to spend your money somewhere else.
	Well, the multipolar world is doing that on a global scale.
	They're creating entire alternatives to U.S.-dominated Financial systems.
	They're creating alternatives to what used to be Western monopolies, aircraft manufacturing, for example.
	We see Russia, China, other nations beginning to build their own airliners, undermining the duopoly of Boeing and Airbus.
	And we see this actually across many, many industries.
	And it is.
	It's creating more alternatives, which is always better.
	And when you have more alternatives, more companies, more countries involved in this, We'll never have a perfect system.
	There is no perfect system for the world to live under.
	The best we can do, the closest we can come to is a balance of power, where one nation, if they're tempted to bully another nation, there's the threat of this balance of power keeping them in check, keeping them in balance.
	When the United States, at the end of World War II or at the end of the Cold War, It was unchecked power which led to unchecked abuse.
	To explain it, that's what multipolarism is.
	It's not communism.
	It's not whatever the Russian political or economic system is.
	It is a balance of power.
	And they say this specifically.
	Each nation has a right to determine how they run their own affairs.
	It should be non-interference.
	We should recognize the primacy of national sovereignty.
	And we can no longer allow any one nation, not Russia, not China, not the United States, not the European Union, no nation should have the final say on what the rest of the world does.
	Yeah, no nation should be able to put economic sanctions on 80% of the other nations around the world also, which is what the U.S. is famous for doing.
	Interesting.
	We're going to make your money not function while we print more of our money that's counterfeit currency, but we want you to keep buying our money so that we can keep printing our money.
	How long is that scheme going to stand up?
	It's not.
	It's not.
	Look at the 10-year treasuries right now, headed sky high.
	Fewer people want U.S. debt.
	Yes.
	And the reason it worked for so long was because of the difficulties of creating alternatives.
	But now, again, with multipolarism, with BRICS, with just the rise of China, the re-emergence of Russia, we see all of these alternatives emerging.
	So when a nation that's on the fence or caught in the middle because they're smaller and They don't have the power or leverage to just outright stand up against, say, the United States.
	When they see these alternatives, when they saw the United States and Europe put these sanctions on Russia, they thought, what if they did that to me?
	How would we survive?
	We wouldn't.
	So now they're investing in these alternatives because they understand how dangerous In the long term, this US-led unipolar order is and how the goal of it is not to create a world of peace and stability overseen by the US. It's to utterly subjugate everyone else under the US. And when I say the US, I'm talking about the corporate interests that drive current US foreign and domestic politics.
	Yeah, yeah.
	In the few minutes we have left here, Brian, and I want to thank you for taking so much time with us, but I want to recognize Gonzalo Lira and ask for your thoughts on his current plight.
	He's a prisoner in Ukraine, I would argue a political prisoner for speech crimes, and the U.S. State Department does not appear to be doing anything that I'm aware of.
	What can you tell us?
	Do you know anything more?
	Well, first of all, thank you for bringing up this issue.
	And it's important to remember, whatever you think about Gonzalo Lira personally, if it can happen to him, it can happen to any one of us next.
	And I know, Mike, yourself, and I know myself, I'm always worried about being the next one that gets rounded up or censored online.
	So when it happens to any of us, we all have to stand up, because it could be any one of us next.
	So Gonzalo Lira, he had been living in Ukraine For quite a few years, he had a wife and he has children there.
	I don't know what his relationship was at that point, but he was there for his kids, to go visit his kids.
	And people said, why did he stay there?
	I think people don't understand how hard it is to just pick up and move to another country.
	It's very difficult to do.
	It's not something you just decide and do overnight.
	It's very difficult.
	So he stayed there, and he probably shouldn't have.
	He probably should have put effort into getting out of there.
	He was outspoken against the Ukrainian governments, the Ukrainian military.
	And he said things that were just factual, absolutely factual.
	The SBU, Ukrainian internal security, arrested him.
	He was under a form of, say, house arrest, but he couldn't leave Kharkov, basically, the city he was living in.
	And then they rounded him up again and put him in prison.
	And he attempted to escape again.
	People are like, why did he just do this or that?
	Walk a mile in his shoes and then come back and tell me how easy it would have been to just escape from Kharkov.
	It's a lot harder than people think.
	And they caught him again and I presume they put him on some trial in some kangaroo court and they sentenced him to prison.
	He's probably in prison.
	And he absolutely is a political prisoner.
	If you look at the statements from the Ukrainian government themselves about what his crime was, it was for Acknowledging that there's Nazis in the Ukrainian government and military, which is 100% true, and talking about Ukraine shelling the civilian population of Donbass, which, again, is 100% factual.
	So they threw him in jail for talking about facts.
	They didn't like people.
	Reminding other people of.
	That's why he was detained and put in jail.
	And then I hear people always say, Gonzalo Lear was an SBU agent.
	That is absolute nonsense.
	Some of the people promoting this myth, this conspiracy theory, they themselves know it's not true.
	And they're just saying they were having a personal dispute with Gonzalo.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I want to be clear.
	Look, I don't agree with Gonzalo and everything he said, and we don't have to.
	And that's okay.
	But the principle of this is that you shouldn't be arrested for your speech.
	He was not a militant, you know, taking a rifle to the government and trying to assassinate government officials.
	Nothing.
	He was a YouTube guy.
	Speaking on YouTube...
	Often in a casual way, often on other topics, sometimes entertainment topics.
	And you would think that the US State Department would work harder to bring him back, given that he is a dual citizen of the United States and Chile, I believe.
	Yes.
	Whereas the US worked very hard to get that women's NBA basketball player out of a prison in Russia.
	Perhaps because she's the right color?
	Because she supports Biden?
	I don't know.
	But Gonzalo Lira is being left to rot, and I want to make sure that his name continues to be heard.
	Do not let Gonzalo be forgotten, for all the reasons you mentioned, Brian.
	Well, and again, Mike, what you said before about how when it's politically convenient, they will fight for somebody's freedom.
	Even if they are actually just a straight-up criminal, they will still do it, and they will depict the government, their adversary, as violating human rights.
	But then, because Gonzalo Lira's views were an obstruction to U.S. foreign policy objectives, they're letting him rot.
	It really is a simple...
	And that's why they don't care.
	And again, I care about Gonzalo Lira because this shouldn't happen to anyone, and also because it could be any one of us next.
	So even if you don't like Gonzalo Lira, it could be someone you like next.
	That's why we always have to say, like you said, Mike, it's all about principles.
	It's all about principles.
	We don't have principles.
	What do we have?
	Well, and to kind of wrap this up, let me put an end cap on that, which is that Whoever you are watching this, whatever your ethnicity, your skin color, your religion, one day there could be a radicalized group of people that look the same as you or believe the same as you who carry out some heinous crime, I don't know, attacking a Jewish synagogue or something like that.
	Suddenly you are demonized as an entire group.
	Suddenly, you are threatened, you are maybe shot at, suddenly your home is maybe burned down, and you are ostracized from society due to no fault of your own.
	If we tolerate this kind of collective punishment of people based on their ethnicity, then sooner or later that punishment will come around to you too.
	And that's why we must stand against this and say that these principles matter and that civilians should not be targeted or murdered no matter what some extremist group did.
	I agree with that wholeheartedly.
	Remember the war on terror.
	It was Muslims' turn.
	And now the conflict in Ukraine.
	Russians, or anyone who even appears to be Russian, vaguely Russian, they're the targets.
	And when the U.S. begins provoking China, and it already has kind of started, anyone who's even Asian, it doesn't even matter.
	Most Americans can't tell the difference between Taiwan and Thailand.
	They will be the target.
	Most Americans think that's the same country, Brian.
	Right, because I lived in Taiwan, you live in Thailand, and I can't make any sense of the Thai language at all, but I do speak Mandarin Chinese, so they're completely different.
	I'm sure people ask you, how are things in Thailand?
	And I know people have asked me, how are things in Taiwan?
	Yes, all the time.
	That's funny that we share that common experience.
	But if you don't mind, let me know if you have to go right away, but I want to add to what you said.
	I was astonished when Russia launched this special military operation.
	You know, late February of 22.
	And then immediately we saw Russian race car drivers banned at NASCAR. Russian tennis players banned from competition.
	Russian artists banned from displaying art galleries.
	And I'm thinking, has the world lost its mind?
	A Russian artist, what do you think?
	They're going to paint artillery shells that can be fired?
	I mean, how does this make any sense to ban Russian people from Russian ethnicity people who don't even live in Russia, not part of the military, just carrying out their lives, doing whatever they do.
	It made no sense to me, and it was really scary to realize that this is the world we live in of such instant racism against any targeted group.
	Yes, and think about it.
	It makes no sense from a principled point of view, and it's categorically wrong.
	But in the minds of the people creating these policies, They know that they cannot rationally explain why they're supporting Ukraine in a proxy war against Russia, but they know how powerful hatred is.
	They did it during the war on terror.
	Now they're doing it again toward Russians.
	But it only works if you're able to dehumanize the entire group of people.
	If you can boil it down to this simple, emotional, almost reptilian reaction, that's the only way you can get large amounts of people on board to care.
	And to support or at least tolerate this policy.
	And again, it's going to be China next if it already isn't beginning.
	And we have to do everything we can to raise awareness because, first of all, I don't think Russia is even in the wrong.
	Surely, China is not in the wrong if it ends up fighting a war right off its coast against the United States who cross an entire ocean to pick that fight.
	But it's also completely wrong to collectively punish people who don't even have anything to do with what's going on.
	This is my criticism of Hamas.
	Killing unarmed people, including laborers from other countries that were Thai people.
	It's categorically wrong.
	It's wrong.
	Yes, and it's wrong when the West and its proxies do it.
	It's always wrong.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Well, you are a man of principle, and that's one of the reasons why I really appreciate your work.
	I want to remind people your channel name is The New Atlas, and you occasionally appear on, for example, with Alex Christophe Roux, The Duran, which is hard to find.
	Every time I search for The Duran, it's Duran Duran.
	The music group.
	And I'm listening to, you know, Rio Rio again from the 1980s.
	But your channel is easy to find, the new Atlas.
	Anything else you want to plug or mention before we wrap this up?
	No, I just want to thank you again for having me on.
	It's always an honor and a pleasure.
	I really enjoyed this conversation, and I hope people in your audience get some sort of value out of it.
	I'm sure that they will.
	Absolutely they will.
	Keep up the great work that you're doing, and you're welcome back here anytime.
	And don't hang up when I wrap this up.
	We still need to sync the files.
	And I just want to thank you for doing what you do and having the courage to speak out against the false narratives of the establishment.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	All right, folks, that was Brian Berletic there from, of course, the new Atlas, like we said.
	And be sure to check out his channel on YouTube, and you can subscribe there and like his videos.
	It shouldn't be hard to find them.
	And he does several each week and appears on other shows as well.
	And we'll have him back whenever he wants to come back, especially as events unfold in both now the two theaters of war that the U.S. is involved in, if not having provoked in some way.
	But thank you for watching.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.com.
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	Well, Mike Adams joins us today.
	Mike, thank you so much for joining me and can I also just thank you for being a voice of reason in these very, very strange times.
	It's very much appreciated.
	Well, thank you, Maria.
	It's an honor to join you, and yeah, we are in some very difficult territory right now, and I just want to say up front, I'm a person of principles, and perhaps we'll discuss some of these principles, but I believe they apply universally, and I value all human life, and I absolutely reject the killing of innocent civilians and women and children, That Hamas carried out against Israel.
	But at the same time, I also reject the indiscriminate killing of women and children through other means, such as cutting off their water, electricity, food and fuel, which even the United Nations says is a war crime.
	So perhaps we'll get into some of that.
	But I do want to say I pray for peace and I pray for abundance and freedom for all people of every ethnicity on this planet.
	I agree with you, Mike.
	I share your sentiments.
	I've been closely following your Twitter feed because I am searching for other voices of reason in this time, and of course you're one of them.
	I shared your article, which was very well written, on this situation.
	We want to talk about some of what's going on, some of the stories that are being shared, some of the reasons that people are using for calling for genocide and retaliation.
	And the fact that basically the public statements that I've made is that a lot of what people are outraged over has been proven to be false or doesn't quite stack up.
	But maybe we can go, Mike, right from the beginning where we have the country with arguably the most advanced defense system in the world not being able to detect violence.
	Some people coming through on parachutes and, you know, we've got the stories of people watching the border being told to stand down.
	What do you make of all of this first and foremost?
	Well, I interviewed Martin Armstrong, the economist, and as he stated, and I agree with it, that this was not an intelligence failure by the IDF or the Israeli intelligence.
	It was, in fact, a successful stand down that allowed this attack to occur.
	And remember that Ron Paul is even reminding us that Hamas originally was a creation of U.S. and, to some degree, Israeli intelligence services, and that the neocons always need an enemy out there, one that they can partially control.
	And so what happened, it was a real event, I want to be clear, it's clear that Hamas is a terrorist group now and that they did kill women and children.
	That actually took place and it is horrifying.
	And we all reject that.
	But it was allowed to take place by Israel in a similar fashion to 9-11 in the United States because Israel needed public outrage, which they now have, in order to escalate their intended war to a regional conflict, ultimately to attack and attempt in order to escalate their intended war to a regional conflict, ultimately to attack and attempt to take And while the neocons also want to involve eventually Russia in this conflict.
	So they want world war, and this is exactly what they are headed into.
	And Israel's attacks on Gaza are designed, I believe, designed to bring in Hezbollah and then Syria and ultimately Iran into this conflict.
	Which is also in the U.S. sites.
	I don't mean the freedom-loving people of the United States.
	I'm talking about O'Biden and co.
	I think you're right.
	And we've been saying for, you know, since the situation erupted in Russia and Ukraine, we've been saying they want World War III.
	Every single person is aware of the fact that those in charge want World War III.
	And you cannot deny that the propaganda campaign in Ukraine was failing miserably.
	The Vogue photo shoots really wore off.
	And the people started to en masse lose support for Zelensky, including people in Congress, people in our own government here in Australia and worldwide, really.
	Why are we sending all of this money to Ukraine?
	What is going on?
	Russia's not going to lose.
	And so a new narrative was really required.
	They were maybe going to try COVID again, Mike, but people stood up en masse and said, we're not doing this again.
	And they require the maintenance of control of narratives and the people's emotions in order to further their Great Reset.
	Do you think that it's a coincidence that Israel, if I'm right on my theory, about my theory, do you think that it's a coincidence that Israel was chosen?
	It seems to be a topic where people cannot think rationally because it's Israel, Mike.
	That's what it appears to be for me.
	Right.
	Also, Israel is insulated from criticism by false accusations of being an anti-Semite.
	So if you call for peace in Israel, you are now labeled an anti-Semite.
	Whereas if you call for peace in Ukraine, you're labeled a puppet of Putin, right?
	Yes.
	And also, I want to put this out there.
	I am being death-threaded by Israelis right now for refusing to call for genocide against Palestinian civilians.
	And this has been rather shocking to me.
	All it took for even people I know who are Israeli.
	I have many friends over the years who are Israeli.
	And I trained in Krav Maga martial arts, for example, which is an Israeli combat art.
	And to find that Even the people that I have known over many years were overnight turned into raging murderous monsters against the ethnicity of Palestinians.
	It was absolutely shocking to me because what I witnessed was this inner beast coming out.
	All it took Was this Hamas terrorism attack, and then even Israeli people that I know have become openly advocating genocide, the complete extermination.
	They're not mincing words on this.
	The complete extermination of all Palestinian civilians, women and children, elderly, young boys, all of them, to be cleansed from this planet because, and they justify it and they openly talk about it, And this is coming out of people who are otherwise very reasonable and intelligent.
	So I am very, I am, as we say in America, flabbergasted by this.
	I'm taken aback by how quickly the emotions of people have been engineered by events carried out by the neocons and intelligence services, and they have succeeded in unleashing massive murderous rage.
	It's unbelievable.
	I just tweeted yesterday about a doctor who I previously interviewed who I thought was, you know, an amazing warrior for humanity.
	He risked his entire career An OBGYN to expose how these injections were killing children, leading to unimaginable amounts of miscarriages and plastered all over conservative media because that is the right thing to do.
	It's right to call this out.
	And the ex-Post stated that Israel should bomb and, quote, commence non-stop, 24-7 carpet bombing of Gaza and Lebanon for about three months, end quote.
	You've gone from, you know, saving the lives of babies to calling for the eradication of millions of children?
	I mean, what is...
	And I ask the question, Mike, what is this madness that has overcome our people?
	It is absolute madness.
	You know, as the saying goes, what does it take to turn a room of 100 Israelis into raging, murderous animals?
	And the answer is one Palestinian.
	And it's incredible.
	The emotional, irrational reaction to this.
	Now, don't get me wrong.
	I don't excuse anything that Hamas did.
	I condemn it.
	And I believe that those Hamas terrorists should be hunted down.
	they should be prosecuted, and if found guilty in a court of law, they should be executed.
	I completely agree with that, because violence against innocent people is not acceptable in our society.
	But it is also not acceptable to commence violence against an entire ethnic group, a group of people who had nothing to do with Hamas.
	They are not Hamas.
	They are Palestinian civilians.
	And I'm told by Israelis that, well, Hamas is hiding among these Palestinians, therefore we have to bomb all the Palestinians.
	The stunning lack of humanity in that statement is mind-boggling, because you are essentially arguing that if, let's say, if the United States government believes that there's An extremist, a terrorist hiding in your town that they should carpet bomb your entire town, kill all of you to get the one extremist.
	I mean, that's what we're actually being told is now justifiable and acceptable.
	And if you disagree with it, then suddenly you're an anti-Semite.
	And I reject that.
	It is intellectually dishonest and it is wicked.
	Well, by the same token, we have the most advanced intelligence surveillance in the world these days.
	We know that the Israeli government, for example, who has arguably again the most advanced intelligence operations in the world, was tracking their citizens.
	without them knowing during COVID.
	And now all of a sudden we have to kill an entire people to eradicate terrorists.
	Well, what happened to the tracking capabilities that they had during COVID?
	What happened to the surveillance capabilities?
	If you know where they are, if they're living among those people, you don't have better means of identifying them and removing them other than slaughtering tens upon thousands upon millions of people with the support of the West.
	I mean, this is insane, Mike.
	It's completely insane.
	And if you want to know, by the way, who's killing the most Israeli babies, the honest answer is it's the Israeli government condoned abortion industry in Israel.
	And in America, who's killing the most American babies?
	It's the abortion industry.
	What Hamas did, as horrifying and evil as it was, and they were acts of terror, in terms of the actual number of dead, it pales in comparison to what the abortion industry and the vaccines have done.
	And both of those are endorsed and even promoted by the governments of Israel and the United States as weapons against their own people.
	So if you're wondering who are the terrorists right now, if you're Israeli or if you're American, the terrorists are those in your own government who are pushing biological weapons and abortion deaths on your populations.
	That's the honest answer.
	On the injections, Mike, this is actually something that I came out, you know, straight out of the gate saying.
	And I aired a clip of Netanyahu.
	It was from the Daily Wire.
	And he was talking about how, boasting about, you know, he's created a lab for Pfizer with his own people.
	You know, have we forgotten how evil...
	The organization Pfizer is.
	You know, this was the target of all of our hatred just two minutes ago.
	And we condemned anyone that was working with Big Pharma and recognized that these people could not be trusted.
	And this man comes out and brags about how he's created a lab for Pfizer.
	You know, with collaboration with over 100 countries, he now has a genetic database that is the biggest digital database in the world where they can do all of this genetic sequencing.
	And we know for a fact that through the biolabs in Ukraine, for example, that this was potentially going to be used for ethnic cleansing in the future.
	So not only are we talking about the potential of ethnic cleansing right now through We're also talking about the potential of ethnic cleansing through Israel's collaboration with Pfizer by creating bioweapons known as injections.
	Yes, that's exactly right.
	There are so many factors to consider here.
	For example, how many IDF soldiers are now dead because of the vaccines and so therefore are not available to defend Israel?
	There's a question that you're not allowed to ask, but it's a legitimate question.
	But there's an even bigger question, which is that at the highest levels of the governments of both Israel and the United States, The politicians are run by globalists who desire the destruction of Israel and the United States.
	And these programs, such as the Vaccine Bioweapons Program, is a depopulation program.
	But in addition to that, the actions that Israel is now commencing against Gaza, they're about to launch an assault, I guess a house-to-house, block-to-block assault on Gaza.
	I believe they're doing so knowing that this will escalate war and it will bring attacks onto Israel that could ultimately threaten the very existence of Israel as a country.
	In other words, you look at Hezbollah, they have promised to invade from northern Israel, from southern Lebanon, if the IDF goes into Gaza.
	Syria is beginning to be involved.
	There's armored equipment coming in from Jordan from the east.
	Iran may be involved.
	And by the way, Israel launched rockets and damaged the airport in Damascus.
	That's already happened.
	So you can see the spiraling, but I believe the spiral is by design.
	I also...
	I'm sorry to...
	Take up so much time, but I also believe that the battle in Gaza is going to be absolutely devastating and costly to the IDF. This is not some simple thing.
	Gaza is a heavily fortified urban area with a system of tunnels and the Israeli approach to the siege, cutting off electricity, water, exit routes, Food and fuel and also kinetically bombarding Gaza has thrust the occupants of the Gaza Strip into a nothing left to lose type of situation.
	When you have nothing left to lose, you might as well fight, I suppose.
	I mean, any group would eventually come to that conclusion.
	So they're going to fight.
	to the death and the IDF is going to pay very likely a very dear price especially as Israel has become culturally Much like the United States military, it has moved away from really effectiveness of its military to, you know, cultural virtue signaling type of activities and focus, and that makes them less combat effective.
	So I think Israel is miscalculating the military ramifications of attacking Gaza.
	Well, you raise an interesting point there, Mike, and I'm glad you did.
	See, everyone in the West and in the rest of the world that's currently cheering this on and saying, you know, stand with Israel no matter what.
	Has probably failed to consider that the president who said that he's entered his population into a lab with Pfizer could actually be seeking the destruction of his own people.
	As he was just a couple of years ago when he rolled out the deadly shots.
	I shared on the first live stream that I did about this, which unfortunately, due to technical issues, disappeared off Rumble, but I repeated it on Infowars.
	The excess death rates, and I know this because I was reporting extensively on Israel.
	I was using Israeli data when I was warning Australians, look, the most highly injected population in the world has the highest case numbers and the highest death rates.
	I remember reports coming out of Israel from that time reporting, From, you know, funeral directors that they could not keep up.
	And, you know, it seems we've forgotten this.
	And so the same government that did that to their people is here now, potentially orchestrating another situation that will destroy its people and it potentially knows it.
	Exactly.
	So we can't ignore those possibilities.
	We're not dealing with innocent governments here.
	That's the whole point I'm trying to make.
	No, we're dealing with governments that openly advocate war crimes against their own people, not to mention their supposed enemies.
	So the deployment of biological weapons against your own country is itself a war crime, obviously.
	It's a form of genocide against the Israeli people, and that was carried out by the Israeli government.
	You add that to the fact that now they are trying to provoke a much wider war among many countries that have vastly larger armies.
	So if you look at the number of tanks, artillery, and military aircraft that Israel possesses versus, let's say, Egypt or Turkey, for example, or Syria or Iran, there's no comparison.
	Israel is not capable of defending itself against a three- or four-front war if those other nations decide that they think that the Israeli people must be eliminated.
	Which, it brings up this statement, this question of principles.
	See, I believe in principles.
	I believe it's wrong to exterminate any ethnic group.
	But Israel now, the Israeli government believes it is justifiable to exterminate the Palestinians.
	Well, what if another country uses the same logic and decides that they believe it's justified to exterminate Israelis?
	Well, then, according to current Israeli philosophy, that's perfectly acceptable.
	If you have enough hate, then you are allowed to exterminate anybody you wish.
	And I reject that.
	Our world cannot survive if that's the kind of philosophy that we carry around and promote.
	If we aren't willing to live with some fundamental universal principles, such as it's always wrong to kill innocent civilians.
	It's always wrong to cut off water and food and electricity to civilian populations.
	It's always wrong to kill babies.
	It's always wrong to release bioweapons on the public.
	If we can't embrace those fundamental principles, then we are truly doomed.
	As the human race.
	Well, let's just look at the time where Putin was allegedly cutting off resources to Ukrainians, and that was considered a war crime.
	Now, when Israel's doing it to Palestinians, that's applauded.
	I cannot possibly...
	I just cannot understand the level of cognitive dissonance in people that are normally very good at sifting through propaganda and And, you know, just people that normally can rationally think, Mike.
	I've never seen this.
	I am so surprised at the amount of...
	Alleged truth-tellers that are just hyperventilating right now and behaving completely irrationally.
	And by that same logic, the doctor that I mentioned, someone actually...
	A fellow doctor, a colleague of his in his comments, I note, said, by your logic, the fact that the American public...
	The American government, sorry, who did this to their people...
	We should exterminate all Americans now.
	With the shots, I mean, with the COVID injections.
	By that same logic, you would now say, well, let's just exterminate everyone in the world because of the people that attacked us first with the COVID injections.
	I'm not saying that countries don't have a right to defend themselves.
	They absolutely do.
	But defending yourself and going out and conducting ethnic cleansing of an entire population in retaliation are two very different things.
	Well, absolutely.
	And to your point, yes, I agree.
	Countries have a right to defend themselves.
	But Israel stood down.
	That's crystal clear.
	Israel stood down and allowed this attack to happen.
	So it doesn't mean that the Israeli government carried out the attacks, but rather that they knew that they were about to happen.
	They were warned by Egypt, for example, Egyptian intelligence.
	But they stood down and allowed them to happen because they wanted exactly this reaction that we are getting.
	See, Israel has long wanted to level the Gaza Strip.
	They've wanted to eliminate all remaining Palestinians, including on the West Bank.
	But in order to do that, they needed this kind of 9-11 style event.
	They needed a massive emotional invocation that bypasses rationality, bypasses humanity, and turns the Israeli people into advocates for genocidal ethnic cleansing.
	And that's exactly what they got.
	They created it.
	We are now seeing it.
	And those of us who denounce genocide are being called the extremists.
	Well, a post from the IDF themselves yesterday on X, if you don't stand with Israel, you either stand with Israel or you stand with terrorists.
	Excuse me?
	False logic.
	Right.
	We've heard that before from the neocons.
	The Bush administration.
	You either stand with us or you stand with the terrorists.
	That was 1991.
	And also, by the way, in 1990, they claimed that Iraqi soldiers were murdering babies in incubators, a completely fabricated story, but it was leveraged by the media and the military to justify public outrage and expansion of the so-called War on Terror,
	which we know was run by the CIA initially, then involving the U.S. military, and the primary aim of the War on Terror Was, of course, the pillaging of the Middle East resources for the U.S. empire, which is exactly the same reason the U.S. empire is waging war against Russia, because Russia is resource rich.
	And the U.S. empire, the neocons, they can't stand any country having resources that the U.S. doesn't control.
	So, yes, they will fabricate any horror-sounding story at any moment in order to try to manipulate public emotion, and most people fall for it because they are not people who are well-informed about history and they don't have the presence of mind to resist the manipulation of their neurology.
	I agree.
	On the fabricated stories, I want to very, very carefully talk about the story that's come out about the 40 beheaded babies.
	First and foremost, if this story is true, and I will say if this story is true, because we don't know what's true and what's not a lie, and we're going to look at this story because I don't think Mike or I ever shy away from looking at the cold hard facts.
	First of all, I agree with what Mike said at the very start.
	Any loss of life is horrendous, especially if you consider that governments are currently doing this to their own people or allowing this to happen to their own people.
	If the story of the 40 decapitated babies is true, the Israeli government allowed it, So that's number one.
	Who is your outrage directed at if that's the case?
	It should not only be Hamas, it should be allowed at the government that knew that the attack was coming and didn't stop it.
	that's number one the story was originally told by a journalist who alluded to didn't expressly say that she saw this but alluded to the fact that she had seen this then it changed to all soldiers told me then it turned into one soldier told her and that soldier just so happens to be an extreme ideologue who has been advocating for the eradication of palestinians altogether for years
	now it's not new to this soldier and so Then we had Biden come out and say that he's seen these images.
	Then the White House came back and said, oh, look, he hasn't seen the images.
	He's just seen the news reports.
	And then CNN comes out and says, we have confirmation.
	CNN. And people are sharing, people on the side of truth are sharing the CNN report saying it's confirmed.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Now, what's happened, just as of this morning, I've seen my feed, Netanyahu, his Twitter account, has posted pictures of three babies, and I will try and be as sensitive as I can here, three babies, one, which the head is blurred, and two, that are burnt, and you can't really distinguish what they are, burnt to crisp bodies, basically.
	Um, that is very different to 40 decapitated babies.
	I'm not saying that I want to see photographs of 40 decapitated babies, because to be honest, Mike, if I did, I'm not sure I would believe that either.
	What I am saying is that the level of false information that's come out about this story makes me question any so-called proof that we are being given.
	And it also doesn't match the original story.
	When you are told that there have been 40 babies decapitated by Hamas, that is horrendous.
	if it's true.
	It's horrendous to even consider.
	But then the IDF said, the Israeli government said, we're not going to release the evidence because we want to honour the dead.
	Then they go and release three pictures of what is not that.
	What are your thoughts on this, Mike?
	Well, it's very clear whether those events took place or not, that the manipulation of this information is designed to invoke an emotional, irrational response among Israeli people in particular.
	So, you see, the globalists have long known how to hijack human neurology.
	And this is the way to do it, is to use babies to invoke outrage by showing cruelty to babies.
	Notice that they will never show you the babies murdered in the abortion centers.
	Notice in the United States, they will never report that the FDA actually had a full-time employee whose job was to harvest the severed heads of aborted babies whose heads were cut off during partial birth abortions.
	And this came out, by the way, from a FOIA request by Tom Fitton's organization, Judicial Watch.
	And if anybody wants to look for that, just search for Humanized Mice Experiments, FDA, Organ harvesting aborted babies.
	Because that takes place every day in the United States.
	So there are groups that are cutting off the heads of babies.
	They work for the FDA. They work for big pharma.
	They work in the abortion industry.
	That we know for sure.
	This photo that has come out, which again appears to show Babies burned could have been very easily bodies of babies that were bombed or hit by rockets and rockets and bombs have been falling, of course, in Gaza as well.
	Those photos could be Palestinian babies.
	The IDF has killed nine United Nations relief workers in Gaza.
	And Egyptian first responders, ambulance drivers, have been killed by the bombings because they are so indiscriminate.
	The point is that we have all learned, especially since COVID, we cannot trust Our own governments, especially when they are attempting to manipulate our emotions.
	They will lie.
	They will fabricate.
	They will push forward evidence out of context.
	They will do anything necessary to manipulate the public into what they want to achieve, which right now, as I said earlier, is very clearly an expansion of world war.
	Because, well, they just couldn't get Putin to launch nukes.
	Against NATO over Ukraine.
	Because Putin exercised restraint.
	And as a result, now NATO is going to try to start another nuclear war, this time over Iran, looks like.
	Mike, I'd really like to just bring up another example of how this sort of falsely fabricated storytelling has been done in the past.
	You're aware of the Naira testimony that was falsely given before the United States Congressional Human Rights Caucus.
	On October 10, 1990, by a 15-year-old girl who was publicly identified at the time by her first name, Nayira.
	The testimony was widely publicized and was cited numerous times by U.S. Senators and President George Bush in their rationale to support Kuwait in the Gulf War.
	This is from Wikipedia, by the way.
	In her testimony, Nayira claimed that after the Iraqi invasion of Kauai, she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators.
	You mentioned this before, but just for anyone who doesn't know, in a Kauai hospital, remove the incubators and leave the babies to die.
	This was later proven to be an operation, a false story that was fabricated by those who were pushing for the war.
	My point is we have a history of the globalists doing this.
	Absolutely.
	And they will do it anytime they need to.
	They have a stack of stories ready to roll out whenever they need sufficient outrage.
	And it doesn't mean that this event of these particular babies, it may have happened.
	It may not have happened.
	It doesn't matter to the governments.
	They will roll out these stories whether they're true or false.
	It doesn't matter to them.
	And again, if you want to talk about who's actually carrying out violence against babies, I've already mentioned it.
	It's the governments, it's the vaccines, it's the abortion centers.
	They vaccinated pregnant women.
	How many spontaneous abortions took place because of that?
	But the bigger picture is that every Israeli child has been placed in danger by the Israeli government.
	And these decisions that are now being made that are not in the interests of Israel.
	But the Israeli people are being emotionally manipulated to support acts that may very well result in their own destruction.
	That is all by design.
	And that's what we, you and I, are trying to get the Israeli people to see, how they are being manipulated into a self-destructive cycle.
	By a globalist-infested government that ultimately seeks the destruction of Israel, not its protection, the destruction of Israel.
	That's exactly what is being put into place here.
	Maria, do you realize that, I'm sure you do, but to your audience, the minute Israel attacks Gaza with tanks...
	We're going to see the world flooded with images of dead Palestinians, civilians, women, babies, children.
	That is going to be widely circulated across the Arab world.
	That is going to now then invoke the same emotional bloodlust outrage response against Israel that Israel is demonstrating against Gaza.
	And then we have the entire Middle East on fire, bloodlust everywhere, everybody's lost their minds, and some people have nukes.
	Such as Israel and potentially Iran, thanks to, of course, the funding of Iran by Barack Obama and Joe Biden and the restart of Iran's nuclear weapons program under Obama, which is a whole different story.
	A whole different story, but also not a whole different story.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, whole discussion.
	But somebody wants this whole thing to be turned into mushroom clouds and mass death.
	And that's exactly where this is headed if we don't change course.
	I want to talk about the ability of people to address this because I know that you have no fear about being accused of being an anti-Semite.
	I certainly don't.
	You mentioned we're trying to get the people of Israel to see what's going on.
	I know too much.
	Jews very well to Israelis, both Jewish.
	Shimon Janowitz, who joined me on Infowars this week to say, no, no, our government did this to us and people have forgotten in my country.
	Israelis are divided right now.
	Some of those who are able to think clearly haven't forgotten that our government killed us with the shots.
	Let's not forget that.
	Dr.
	Rima Labo similarly has written an essay on the topic saying the controlled demolition that we see on the news.
	I mean, buildings do not collapse like that.
	None of this is making sense.
	And so there are some Israelis that are thinking very clearly.
	Who's thinking less clearly is the West that is blindly supporting Israel.
	I'm just going to say it.
	And so I want to say, if people out there...
	This is the predicament.
	And this is what I said yesterday in Telegram, Mike.
	I said they've played this out really well.
	Absolutely.
	If you're out there saying that you're pro-Israel, you're a warmonger and you're denying the Palestinian issue.
	If you're pro-Palestine, you've got everyone calling you an anti-Semite and a terrorist supporter.
	If you're on the fence calling for peace, everyone attacks you demanding that you pick a side.
	That's right.
	They've cornered us whichever way we look.
	They've cornered us.
	And so now, as well...
	There's an answer.
	There's an answer to that, Maria, though.
	People ask me, do you stand with Israel?
	My answer is, I stand with humanity.
	Yes.
	So that means I stand with the people of Israel.
	I stand with the people...
	I stand with people, human beings, who are Ukrainian, who are Russian, who are Chinese, who are American, who are black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Jew, Sikh, Hindu.
	I stand with the people of our planet because I am human and I support humanity.
	That's the only honest answer today.
	If you claim to stand with a government, then you are standing for terrorism because it is the governments of the West that are engaging In acts of terrorism and war and manipulation of their people.
	So yes, I stand with the people of Israel.
	Absolutely.
	As well as the people of every other culture who are innocent victims in this global manipulation against humanity.
	And I do not apologize for my position on this, by the way.
	It doesn't matter what someone wants to call me.
	I'm a person of principle.
	And by definition, those principles are universal.
	So when I say that it is wrong to kill women and children, I mean that, whether they're Palestinian children or Israeli children.
	And as I heard you saying before the show here, how absurd it is to argue about which babies are more evil than other babies.
	That's insanity.
	And I refuse to engage in that.
	Well, let me just say as well, the Palestinian government leaders aren't innocent either.
	There are huge numbers of excess deaths in Palestine from the COVID injections as well.
	There are huge numbers of excess deaths in every country.
	We are seeing, I think the estimated number now, I was reading last night, Mike, according to the WHO themselves, they say it's because of COVID, 17 million deaths almost worldwide.
	Due to what I think is the shots or remdesivir, you know, toxic protocols in hospital to kill you.
	17 million deaths.
	At least.
	Yeah, that's probably a low number.
	And many of those would be babies, miscarried babies, because of the injections.
	But what's happening is we're forgetting our outrage about the greatest genocide project to ever hit mankind and focusing on this.
	And I think that the vaccine genocide attempt against humanity largely failed.
	And it failed because the truth got out about things like ivermectin or quercetin and so on.
	And many people were able to protect themselves.
	And so I believe that the globalists have shifted now and that what we're seeing in Israel is the latest attempt to start a global death event.
	Which ultimately they hope can kill, I mean, let's face it, the globalists want to kill billions of people.
	And they most definitely want to take out Israel and the United States in that process.
	So this is going to probably kill far more people than the vaccines have killed.
	And 17 million is a very low number.
	It's surely closer to 100 million at this point around the world.
	I agree.
	But...
	What they're about to set off may kill far more than 100 million people.
	It could kill half a billion people or even more.
	And if they can get this into a conflict that destroys the global supply chain, especially of energy, don't forget the Straits of Hormuz that are there with Iran that can be cut off.
	Don't forget about where most of the energy in the world comes from in terms of exports.
	It's right in that region.
	They've already shut off Russian exports of energy to the West and Russian fertilizer and the Gazprom pipeline of natural gas that was providing fertilizer and industry to Germany and Western Europe.
	Now, with war in the Middle East, they can cut off the energy pipeline as Joe Biden is also cutting off domestic energy production in the United States.
	And then if they can get a war with China, Maria, then they can cut off the entire supply chain of pharmaceuticals, consumer products, plastics, automobile parts, microchips and everything else.
	That's what this is.
	This is a worldwide siege.
	It's not just that Israel has a siege against Gaza.
	It's the globalists have a siege against planet Earth.
	That's their plan.
	I agree.
	And it's this entire campaign, and I'm calling it a campaign because I see it for what it is, has been used.
	I'm not diminishing the loss of human life.
	I'm talking about the launch of this campaign by the same globalists who gave us Ukraine, by the same globalists who gave us the COVID injections, has been incredibly, incredibly successful from the outset.
	And I want to ask you, Mike, because when the Ukraine and Russia situation started occurring, there were a lot more people that were interested in understanding the facts and protecting themselves from the propaganda.
	Why do you think that's not the case when it comes to this conflict?
	Well, good question.
	I don't know the answer, except to say that human neurology has been mapped out by the globalists since the Rockefeller days, and they know how to manipulate.
	Using dead babies, for example, but also using fear, propaganda, and also social conformity.
	So once they achieve a certain critical mass of a large number of people calling for a certain course of action, such as genocide, then they know that most other people will go on board and join that.
	Now, you and I and your audience, we are the outliers in the sense that we don't follow the herd.
	And we are uniquely qualified to maintain a sense of rationality and reason in analyzing what's happening and perhaps contributing to humanity being able to navigate this and not die on a planetary scale.
	But the vast majority of the masses are easily manipulated and easily driven to a murderous rage.
	It tells you something about humanity and actually how frightening it is To live among the oblivious masses because wherever you live, those of you watching, wherever you are, your neighbors, the people all around you could be driven to this murderous rage any day, at any moment, even against you.
	Because they do not have a sense of self or the courage to stand for principles.
	They go with whatever's happening.
	And if whatever's happening, if it's a murderous rage targeting you because of your color, because of your background, your religion, your gender, your race, whatever, they could kill you next.
	That's what's frightening about this.
	I think also, Mike, and maybe you can give me your thoughts on this.
	I think that this is turning into a holy war.
	And I think that for whatever reason, people think that because it's turning into a holy war, that we have to side with...
	This is a theory that we have to side with Israel over Muslims because that's somehow closer to Christians, for example.
	I've seen a lot of that.
	And...
	I can't understand that logic either, because if you are truly a Christian, you love your neighbor, you don't want any of them to die, and you would still want to be rational and unemotional and do the right thing for all of humanity.
	Do you think that a little bit of this is going on?
	Well, yeah, surely that's exactly what's going on.
	You've nailed it there.
	And I'm watching, of course, I'm watching Israel to see what they do.
	I judge a nation and a culture by its actions and whether those actions are aligned with core principles of valuing human life and acting with integrity and honoring the so-called rules of war, for example.
	So Israel is going to be judged by all of us, and Israel may yet back away from the attempt to exterminate millions of Palestinian civilians.
	Perhaps they will back away from that.
	It's not too late.
	They seem dedicated to this path, and it will be disastrous if they pursue it, but it's not too late to change course.
	But I will judge every nation and its people by their actions, and I subject myself to the same judgment.
	I would never allow myself to collapse into a murderous rage against any group of people based on anything.
	Even if they were committing violence against me, I would not try.
	I mean, like if someone came to my home and tried to kill me, yeah, I would probably kill them with my AR-15, but I wouldn't go after their family.
	You see what I'm saying?
	That's the difference.
	And I'm hearing a lot of alt-media personalities and so-called Christians saying, you know, kill their families, level Gaza, you know, destroy them all, kill them all.
	That's the only way to solve this.
	And that is very frightening.
	And I have lost respect for quite a number of people in the last week over those kinds of comments.
	I have to say the same, Mike.
	people that I used to, you know, occasionally listen to for commentary and just to hear their views.
	I can't, I can't possibly listen to anything you have to say again, when you are displaying a bloodthirst that makes no sense.
	It literally makes no sense.
	If you sat down and had the conversation that we're having now, which I believe is balanced, level-headed, rational, all of the above, it makes absolutely no sense to me.
	And you put out something on X, which I genuinely thought was interesting.
	And one of my, you know, one of the people that I don't like to say followers, one of the people on my X account said something as well.
	Well, you said, is it just me or has everyone lost their minds since the October 4th FEMA EBS?
	And someone in my comments actually said, Maria, maybe all these experts you've had on talking about the fact that the nanotech that's inside of people, all this tech that's inside of people is changing their brains and their ability to think maybe this has been weaponized all this tech that's inside of people is changing their brains and their I can't, that's, it's got to be possible, Mike.
	That is a plausible theory, 100%.
	Again, we don't know for sure that that's what happened, but it is a plausible theory.
	Clearly, people are being manipulated in their emotional state and their neurology.
	So there's, you know, psycho-neuro warfare that is taking place at many levels.
	Are 5G towers part of that?
	Perhaps.
	But clearly, by the way, just electromagnetic pollution and stress do contribute to malfunction of neurology.
	But then again, I think that the images of the babies and the fact that the Hamas terrorist event was allowed to take place, that these killings did happen, that is by far the more powerful invocation of the outrage or the rage or the bloodthirsty response that we are seeing.
	And it's...
	I know we're almost out of time Maria, but it gives me a lot of concern about the stability of humanity as a whole.
	Can we ever rely on the people we know or the groups that we know to behave in a way that leads to sustainability or coexistence on this planet?
	Or are we now going to have to say, well, the only way to move forward on this planet is for one ethnic group to mass murder all the other ethnic groups that it doesn't like and to dominate the planet?
	Because that's what's being demanded by some people right now.
	And if that's the case, then peace has no chance.
	And there are plenty of ethnic groups that will lay claim to say that they are the best qualified to rule the planet, such as, like, Communist Chinese, for example.
	And at one time, it was the Japanese Empire that carried out war crimes against the Chinese and against the Koreans and so on.
	There are plenty of candidates for supremacy claims, like genetic supremacy, and we've seen that before in history, and it has never ended well.
	Well, I have a question for you, Mike.
	This is my honest opinion about many conservative commentators, let's say.
	I think that they don't have a true understanding of the New World Order and its objectives.
	And I think that if you don't look at everything through the lens of the New World Order and its objectives, you cannot possibly understand anything.
	I'm not saying you and I get it 100%, but I think that knowing what the New World Order is and what they're about makes it a lot easier to see through propaganda and to maintain a balanced viewpoint.
	Yeah, that's absolutely correct.
	And it's a learning curve.
	It takes time.
	And, you know, all roads lead back to Alex Jones was right, by the way, because he's been doing this for 25 years.
	And I've been doing this 20 years.
	Alex has been right again and again on so many issues.
	And what Alex demonstrates to people is the fact that it takes time to absorb all of this.
	It's not an overnight recognition of the reality that we're living under.
	We are in a prison planet.
	But it's a process for people, and hopefully we can wake up a few more people with this conversation, get some people to think about what's happening and to understand how they're being manipulated.
	The masses will never really awaken, and they will be puppets manipulated by the globalists into all kinds of wars and war crimes against each other.
	But for those who wish to survive and be part of a future of human civilization, shows like yours, Maria, and platforms like mine, we provide hope for them.
	And I pray that we can come out of this without seeing the total destruction of the human race.
	I absolutely agree with you, Mike, and I stand with you as I stand with all innocents around the world.
	Mike Adams, The Health Ranger, Brighteon.com, Natural News.
	Mike, anything else you want to mention before you go?
	No, just thank you, Maria, for reaching out to me, inviting me on, and being willing to have this conversation.
	I really honor the fact that you're looking at this from a very reasoned point of view, but more importantly, a point of view that is necessary if we have any future whatsoever.
	So thank you for having me on.
	I really appreciate joining you.
	Likewise, Mike.
	Thank you so much for coming on.
	See you soon.
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