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Oct. 4, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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5G Summit creator Josh Del Sol reveals shocking truths about electromagnetic pollution...
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
Thank you for joining me today.
I've got two very special guests joining me by video.
We have Josh DelSol, who is the creator of the 5G Summit series that is going to blow your mind, and it begins broadcasting this Saturday, and we'll tell you how to register for that.
And then also another guest is Cal Washington, who is the co-founder of an organization called Empower, which is found at EmpowerMovement.org.
That'll get you to their website and welcome both of you to the show.
It's great to have you on today.
Thank you, Mike.
It's great to be here.
Thanks, Mike.
Absolutely.
Thank you for taking the time to join us.
Let's do some quick introductions since this is the first time we've been able to speak.
So, Josh, your 5G Summit, it's already blowing people's minds, even just the trailers and info.
Tell us a little bit about that summit, if you would, to start off, please.
Yeah, absolutely.
Some of the content is content we accumulated from before.
It was in previous launches and releases.
And we're so stoked to be doing that now with your platform, mikeatbrightview.com.
With the two previous launches we did, we reached over 400,000 people.
And this was recognized by many as a seminal event to get the best information to you on 5G. And so for those that have not, didn't either see the previous release or want to get some new content in there as well, this is, we put our heart and soul in to make this the best single opportunity for both awareness and solutions for the 5G agenda.
Okay, outstanding.
That begins this Saturday, October 7th, and it streams through October 16th.
It's free to watch.
You register.
You can watch it for free.
You can optionally download and purchase the entire program and additional materials, but that's not required.
Just go to brightu.com to register.
All right, now, Cal, you are with InPower.
You're the co-founder of InPower.
Also, Josh was involved in the founding of InPower.
I'm not familiar with what Empower is doing, so please give us, if you would, an overview of the organization.
Well, it's based on an experience I had in court in a personal way, and I discovered a jurisdiction that was mostly hidden from us, and it's a very powerful jurisdiction and deals with commerce.
So what we found is some of the weapons that they're deploying, I'll use that term boldly, they're doing it through commercial means.
They're getting our agreement, they're advertising it, they're making it sound like it's something that we want.
And so they're deploying weapons using commercial means, and we have a way of countering that.
Because commerce is always about agreement.
So we can have a counteroffer and we get them into a position where they're in default and then they have to pay a daily fee.
Whoa, whoa.
Okay, we want to hear more about that.
But when you say weapons, I noticed from your website you're talking about 5G, vaccines, geoengineering, smart meters.
What else is on that list?
That's it, just the four.
Those four.
Okay.
So, yeah, I think our audience understands those are weapon systems that are being deployed against us right now.
But the general understanding of most people is that you just have to click, I agree, in order to use the iPhone or use the website or use the service, and there's no ability to negotiate with those commercial entities, as crazy as that is.
So how are you accomplishing through Empower the negotiation?
Well, the negotiation starts with, we say that they're offering these products, and then we will agree, conditionally accept their offer on the ground that they prove that they're safe.
And because of their weapons, you can never prove a weapon is safe because it's not designed to be safe.
So that creates a problem for them.
They cannot prove that it's safe.
And then we say, if you keep deploying these weapons in my vicinity, then I'm going to charge you X amount of dollars per day.
Do we have a deal?
Why would they agree with that?
Well, because they started the process, and so they have to continue.
They can't just back out of a contract offer.
And if they go silent, then they've agreed.
And they were relying on silence as agreement for these four agendas as well.
So...
We just basically take the same tactic that they do and flip it back on them, ping-pong it back.
Well, okay, this sounds fascinating.
I want to learn more.
But my first question is going to be, well, they never agreed to pay a daily fee.
They're not going to consent to your counteroffer.
So how are you legally binding them to a counteroffer that they will not agree to?
Because they started with a tacit agreement.
So they put out the smart meters and then they say, yeah, you have to take this thing.
Whether we agree or not.
And it's our silence that they're relying on.
So it is a tacit agreement contract to start with that they've started.
And so we just flip it back on them.
And we're very clear that in the contract that silence will be taken as agreement.
We say it over and over.
And they can always counter back.
So do you have lawyers that write up a counteroffer, send it to the corporations and say, this is our counteroffer, and then if we don't hear back from you, we're going to charge you X dollars per day?
Or how does that work?
No, we don't have lawyers.
This is done man to man.
But what we normally get back from them is there is no basis in law for what you're doing or a response similar to that.
But we've also noticed that some people in very powerful positions step down from their positions.
As they're saying there is no basis in law, they also are heading out the back door.
Okay, interesting.
Well, I want to ask you more about that.
Let's come back to that.
Let me bring in Josh DelSol again, though, to talk about the harms of 5G, because that's intrinsic to both of these conversations here.
So your 5G summit, it does exhaustively cover the harms.
As I understand it, you have over 40 experts that are participating or speaking in the summit, correct?
What's the actual number that you interviewed for this?
I think it's 42.
And there's 44, or 43 rather, specific talks that are in the Summit.
And if you own it permanently, you get bonuses and a course and a masterclass.
But yeah, we basically, you know...
I've dug really deep to get the best quality content and the best quality interviews, the PhDs, the leading PhDs like Magda Havas, Dietrich Klinghart, Dr.
Ronald Melnick, who actually authored a very important study It's called the NTP study on brain cancer and wireless.
And we have safety advocates like Cece Doucette, she's a national leader, and other academics like Dr.
Martin Paul, who as you see at the summit, you'll see his work on causation on the wireless aspect regarding peroxynitrite, which some of the viewers are familiar with, Mike perhaps herself.
Yes.
Is very, very central.
So he presents it in detail.
We got two parts with Dr.
Martin Paul.
And in one of those talks, he gets into what's highly relevant now, I think at this time, which is the science-based possibility, and some would say probability, that wireless proliferation, whether directed or not, has an impact in wildfires.
Yeah.
Whoa, okay.
We go pretty deep into it, and then some of the new content is with Cal and his associate David at InPowerMovement and what they're doing with this wave that's happening right now.
I look forward to you learning more about it, Mike, because it took me a while to get it, but when I finally did, I was like, wow.
Well, I have covered the peroxynitrite production, and we've warned people about that.
And just for those who aren't familiar with it, upon exposure to 5G electromagnetic radiation, inside your body is produced these very dangerous free radicals, peroxynitrite molecules, that damage the chromosomes of your cells.
So these cause chromosomal damage or DNA damage, i.e., can lead to cancer in your body.
And in order to counteract that, you have to counteract the free radicals.
So you have to have really outstanding nutrition with certain types of antioxidants.
We've talked about some of them like SOD, superoxide dismutase enzyme.
Vitamin C is known to help certain anthocyanins and so on.
But for the typical person that's exposed to 5G all day long, Their diet can't support nullifying all of that damage, and so they're walking around getting cancer all day through this process.
Is that what your expert talks about in the summit?
Cancer is one of the issues.
I mean, more than 20,000, as I understand it, studies now show an indication between biological effect from the type of radiation that 5G includes and that it is, which is both three ranges of the spectrum.
It's low frequency, essentially, well, they call low 600 to 800 megahertz, and then the mid-range, which is like 4G, and that was like 3G, 4G, the mid-range, and then the millimeter wave on top of it.
So it's not just...
You know, and it's not just the same amount of transmitters with 5G. It's like the transmitters have to be closer.
And so they pack people together and they have these wireless or 5G or millimeter wave transmitters so that, you know, the original plan outlined every few houses.
And so it's not people think that 5G is just millimeter wave.
It's not.
But there's more transmitters and there's more frequency ranges and specifically with regards to the millimeter wave.
I want to touch on an interview that was not in the original launch that we added subsequently with Dr.
Rashid Batar.
And he talks about CIA declassified research reveals massive bio effects from 5G millimeter wave radiation.
So we actually do screen shares, Mike, on this.
And if people only watch three or four talks, watch his because he's such a great man.
I mean, I'm feeling emotion just...
Feeling into him and his energy and his contributions to so much.
But this is an interview that honestly not many people, relatively speaking, have seen yet.
And this is very, very critical declassified information.
I'm glad you mentioned Dr.
Buttar.
He is dearly missed by all of us.
No question about it.
And just to remind our audience again, you can watch that interview and the others for free.
Just go to BrightU.com.
That's the letter U. It's short for Bright Town University.
BrightU.com and register for free and you'll be able to watch this beginning Saturday, October 7th.
Different episodes each day running on a loop.
And then you can watch the whole thing by attending each of the days.
Again, no charge in order to get this education.
Josh, I just want to thank you too for the work that you've done and also working with us to broadcast this to so many new audience members who maybe haven't seen it before and you have new content in it as well.
And we're all up against this telecom monster that just denies anything.
It kind of reminds me of big tobacco, like big telecom or big ag, big pesticides, glyphosate, and now telecom.
And what I find interesting is that even, for example, RFK Jr., he understands the dangers of cell phone radiation change.
Children's Health Defense has covered that, and we understand it as well.
And let me go to Cal on this.
Cal, so in fighting back against these telecom giants, do you feel like you're getting traction with this method that you're describing?
Honestly, I don't fully understand how it works yet, but are you getting some traction in certain ways?
You think telecom is being sent or given notice that they need to back down from this mass murder?
Yes, we do.
We've seen CEOs of telecoms throughout the world who have stepped down after they've received the documents.
And going on with the harms like big tobacco, etc., we've uncovered their prospectuses for investors and they have to admit that they expect huge litigation Regarding some of these microwaves that they're putting out.
Oh yeah.
So they have to get full disclosure.
So they're aware that they're in another one of these tobacco asbestos type situations as far as Lloyds of London goes.
So again, they know what they're doing.
They know what's wrong.
They know it's a weapon and they expect to get away with it because we're agreeing to it.
We all run and get our 5G phones and all that.
But we're reversing that and dealing with it as a commercial endeavor.
So how can people participate in your effort to push back against telecom?
Well, we have a private membership association, so everything's in the private.
It's protected by the U.S. Constitution because it's technically a church with an integrated auxiliary.
Then from there, the documents on the four different agendas, not just 5G, we're also doing smart meters, vaccines, and the spraying in the air.
So then you choose your agenda, and then depending on what country you're in, we have a customized NOL for about 19 countries.
And then you...
Put in your respondents, and the documents are emailed to you, and then we have instructions on how to get a notary, how to mail, all that stuff.
We kind of handhold people through a very complex process.
Okay, wow.
So these templates of the letters and the process, then people are sending these to the various telecom companies, such as Verizon and AT&T and, what, Apple as well?
Yep.
And what's happening from there?
What happens is either silence, you get no response, or you'll get a lawyer writing back saying there's no basis in law for what you're doing.
Then we continue the process because it's a three-step process to get a lawful contract.
And then we've noticed that people are stepping down.
So we've had, like I said, CEOs...
Of telecoms and electric utilities have stepped down.
Some other notables are we've had two premiers in Australia have stepped down, again, giving no notice.
We had the head of the CDC stepped down.
Giving really no notice and no reason, but in the background, they all received these documents.
But aren't these puppets just replaced then with other willing soldiers of the death march?
I mean, how is this solving the problem long term?
Well, they are replaced, but the replacement inherits the process as well.
And what we found in particular in Seattle, a mayor stepped down, a new mayor came in, he got notice that there's a process in play, and he stepped down after a month.
And then if you really understand what's going on in the world, you know, the big pyramid, if you're at that sort of mid-upper level, You have to go through initiations, and I don't want to get into detail on those, but they're quite heinous.
And so it's not easy to get these people to sit in those positions unless you have something on them.
And they're going to run out of people that are willing to take on the full personal liability because there's some kind of blackmail on them.
They're going to run out of those kind of people, and people are just not going to want to step into them.
Part of any kind of LLC, any limited liability corporation, you have to have three positions at least.
Otherwise, you're not an LLC. These positions have to be filled, and they're going to run out of people eventually, particularly if we have a lot of people pushing on this.
We can overwhelm them.
Okay, let me give out your website again.
InPower, that's inpowermovement.org, right?
I get that right?
Yeah, inpowermovement.org.
Mike, we did a special.
I just want to say for the 5G Summit audience specifically, InPower set this up, and I work with your team to set this up.
If you go to inpowermovement.org forward slash 5G Summit, so know the, forward slash 5G Summit, and then I think...
The deal that you guys did, Cal, was $50 off private membership, right?
Yeah.
I see.
Yeah, I brought that up here.
Okay.
Got it.
So that 000 means this wave has already started.
It just started, but people can still get in.
Yeah, well, we're recording this before the summit actually broadcasts, so probably this clock is going to be active starting that day, I would imagine.
But yeah, this is great.
So you can join the PMA and become part of this movement there.
Thanks for adding that, Josh.
Now, Josh, my next question to you is, you know, consumers demand convenience, but they're being lied to about the cost of that convenience.
Now, consumers always want more and more bandwidth.
To watch videos or live stream or whatever.
And as you know, the higher the throughput of the bandwidth, the more dangerous the technology becomes because there's more energy involved in the actual wavelengths and frequencies that are necessary to carry that bandwidth.
Well, do you think that...
When people are properly educated about the risks of harm, that they will be willing to give up some convenience in order to protect their biology?
Or do you think that many will just say, I don't care, because there's plenty of people who smoke cigarettes right now or who, I don't know, jump out of airplanes, which is...
Maybe safe if you do it safely, but not everybody lives.
How about base jumping?
People do that, and a lot of them die.
So what do you think the response by consumers is going to be?
I did jump out of an airplane once.
And you made it!
And I made it.
It's still here.
I think it has been said, obviously, that it is perhaps an unfortunate aspect of humanity, of mankind, that things need to be really bad before most of us would change.
Almost to the point of it being involuntary.
And so I think, to answer that question, Mike, I see it as, you know, I mean, Jesus said, and there's other writings of whatever it said, at the end of this age, there's going to be sheep and, there's going to be wheat and chaff, you know, sheep and wolves.
There's going to be a separation.
And I think that separation really is about choice.
And some would say it's about DNA as well.
You know, Cal has a really interesting perspective on that.
But the choice that we have is fundamental to, I think, this experience in this physical universe, right?
And so some people, when confronted and presented even softly with the information that, oh, you're doing a thing that's causing you and your family harm, would respond to it right away.
Not to get too far into the Jesus analogy, but maybe that's the fertile soil that he talks about.
And others, you know, would hear it and be like, think about it for a minute, but then go back to the life of convenience.
And so I think we're really being asked at a deep level to come out of these programs, to come out of this programming and these frequencies that are around us, kind of outside of us, and probably more prevalent in cities, both in terms of wireless frequencies and technology-related frequencies.
And other forms of EMF and also in terms of thought frequencies and how this whole matrix control system works because we really have to wake up, engage at a deep level and say yes to life and no thanks to the matrix control system.
And that's what we're learning how to do, I think, in a really powerful way right now.
Do you find that more people are becoming electrosensitive?
Because, you know, I've used this term electropollution.
As the pollution becomes more prevalent, it seems like, at least in my knowledge base, but I'm asking you, that we're finding more and more people becoming hypersensitive to electropollution.
Is that something that you're documenting or noticing?
I think so.
And I tend to notice that if you're more a feeling than thinking person, and if you're connected with your environment, if you can go to nature and feel environmental energies, and if you're sensitive that way,
and sensitive to perhaps in aspects of consciousness or spirituality or whatever, it seems like There is some sort of correlation there that there is going to be more likely to be a sensitivity with Thank you.
experienced some weird things over the years and feeling the energies and different things that seem to be from EMF as probably most of, you know, your viewers have Mike in terms of like, well, this never used to bother me.
This holding my phone when it's on, you know, not on airplane mode, um, or just use of wifi or just ringing in the ears or just, I feel so much better when I unplug my smart TV.
You know, the place that I'm living at right now is, uh, comes, uh, came furnished and I realized I had my EMF testing device, which everyone should have.
It's the best investment you can make for $150, and having an EMF testing device...
So you can see, this is becoming paramount.
We need one of these so you can see all the invisible sources around you and then take steps to either unplug them or deal with them.
But there are solutions.
This is what the 5G Summit is all about, and it's all about also your choice and you coming into a deeper embodiment of your choice and the power underneath of it.
Well, one of my crew members was telling me the other day that he has an EMF, a meter, And he has it in his car, and as he was driving down the highway, he kept it on, and it was sounding off the closer he would get to the cell towers, and it would just go berserk, you know, with the beeps or the buzzes, whatever indicator it uses, and then it would fade away as you get farther away from that tower, but then there's the next tower down the road, and then it happens again.
And I agree with you.
If you go around your house and you just turn on your EMF meter, You're going to be shocked at what's happening near the electrical outlets, and certainly the breaker box is a hornet's nest of electropollution, but a lot of other appliances and so on can flag that as well, even Wi-Fi devices.
People can get a dirty electricity filter at your box, and they're getting pretty good and pretty effective and lower and lower costs all the time.
So yeah, it's not just wireless, right, in terms of EMF. That's right.
This focuses, the summit focuses largely on the wireless component and 5G and just the general, you know, infrastructure proliferation.
But there's there's dirty electricity, there's electric fields and there's magnetic fields.
And so and we've got links to solutions to to all of these.
So this I guess you could say in connection with your previous question, this summit and this event and the in power movement, really, which is the solution that we strongly recommend, is for the percentage of mankind that can respond when presented with information and can change their mind and take action accordingly.
Exactly.
Let me give out the website again, brightu.com.
The 5G Summit, free to watch.
You only register.
Begins October 7th.
Runs through the 16th.
And it's 40 plus experts on all these issues.
Also with solutions.
It's not just talking about the dangers.
It's also talking about solutions.
And speaking of solutions, let's get back to Kyle on this.
But Kyle, in terms of big picture solutions...
How do you think that you can eventually overcome the fact that big telecom bribes our lawmakers in Congress?
They're all on the take, you know, both sides.
Yeah, this is the root problem.
There's no bad thing happening in Earth that money isn't involved with.
And so what we're dealing with is the money.
This can be the biggest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen.
And I know that sounds very trite the way I'm saying it, but it actually can happen.
Because of this jurisdiction that's been hidden for hundreds of years, but it's still operating.
And that whole ilk, and all the bribes, and the payoffs, and just even getting paid to sit in a spot, exorbitant amounts of money, All start to come into question if there's a liability attached to it, and that liability is real.
Through these things called bills of exchange, which nobody has heard of, but they're prevalent everywhere, we can actually take the perceived wealth out of the fiat system and put it on these other pieces of paper and redistribute it back to the people.
So there's a lot going on with what we're doing, And it's hard to get across in a short interview.
Yeah, because what you just said is a giant conversation to have.
You kind of just plop that out there, and we're going to redistribute the wealth back to the people.
Whoa!
Obviously, there's a lot of interest in how that works, and there's a sense among the people that we've all been stolen from with the money printing.
Yes.
Apple alone is a trillion dollar corporation that produces devices that produce so much radiation that iPhone 12 has been outlawed in France.
And it's being looked at in Korea and other countries.
And I mean, these are dangerous, unsafe devices, according to the government of France, right?
So...
How long can these corporations inflict this looting, this confiscation of money from the people while destroying the health of the people?
It's like health and wealth are both under attack.
As long as we agree.
And that is the point.
If they get agreement, then there is no harm, no foul.
I mean, they're lying, but they're still getting us to agree.
So that's the...
The point that they are relying on, and we can switch that so that we only are conditionally agreeing upon them proving that these things are safe, and they can't do it.
Your analogy of going by the tower, as you move away from the tower, your phone goes up.
That's right, because it has to transmit.
They never put these two things in the same testing.
Yes, your phone is safe when it's X amount of feet from the tower, but as you move away from the tower, it goes up, and they leave that part out.
Right.
That's a really important understanding.
Just rudimentary, basic stuff.
Using a phone, I mean, if you have one bar on your phone compared to most phones, I think, have four bars, it could be literally 10,000 times or higher more output because it's working harder to get that high bandwidth that we all want and that connection with the tower.
So even as a first step, Just going in airplane mode.
Everyone needs to be doing this, and if you're not doing this at night, at least you need to be.
But going in airplane mode, especially when you're at your home, Wi-Fi is one step better than using cell towers.
And one giant step better than Wi-Fi, the first part A of that is shutting it off at night.
sleep better, to calm the energy in the house down.
And option B is getting a wired internet.
And there's solutions that we present that are one of the bonus items in this, in the 5G Summit, Mike.
And I link to the specific products that I recommend, even though those links are on Amazon, I apologize.
I need to get that off of Amazon, I guess.
But there are specific products you can get to both wire your phone, ethernet wire your phone, so you can use use it with no Wi-Fi, with no tower connection, and how to make, you know, how to get internet coverage within your home, ethernet coverage without having cords everywhere.
And you can still have it in, you know, most of the rooms, the rooms that have a cable outlet.
That's one of my favorite technologies called Mocha 2, which again is in my e-book PDF and linked to, but people don't really know.
I'm sorry for the fire hose on this, Mike, but I was just like, people don't know about these simple things that we really need to individually, and I think as a collective, as a whole, start to integrate more of these technologies.
No, I'm I'm right there with you on that.
I completely agree.
I run everything wired at my ranch and home and so on.
People need to be educated about the physics of this, how it all works.
Like you said, when you have fewer bars on your phone, you have to understand your phone is using more energy to transmit in order to reach the tower.
And so you need to understand this dynamic of when more energy is produced and what are its effects.
And also...
I found that a lot of people don't realize that 5G is a directional signal, whereas 4G and 3G is what you could say planar, but omnidirectional, but typically on a horizon plane.
Whereas 5G... It's an antenna array that electronically can focus a beam precisely at your location and can track you, and it does.
That's how it works.
It doesn't broadcast your 5G communications to the whole city, and one of the ways it's able to multiplex so many calls at the same time is because it's only sending narrow beams to certain users where they are.
Well, that means that now you are in a cone of energy, Yes.
Yeah, I mean, it's with...
There's some...
Aspects of 5G that are not fully defined.
And we do largely because industry keeps those secrets very close to our chest.
Within the summit, we've identified and we shine light on a number of them.
But yes, 5G, the millimeter wave aspect of 5G, so the higher frequencies, usually 28 gigahertz to 60 gigahertz, Do have that laser beam-like directional component to their functionality that can be avoided by, again, going in airplane mode.
And when you use your phone, if you have one, if you have a smartphone, just look up if you have to and do everything you can to switch out of 5G to back to 4G. You know, 3G is optimal, but very few phones just support only 3G right now.
That's true.
And phone companies are trying to normalize it.
They're trying to push it.
They're trying to make it so that you can't select, you know, non-5G. But that's a definite positive step in the right direction.
and you can make your phone selection with this information going forward, what phone you're going to use, if you're going to even use a phone.
And this is a whole other aspect of this conversation, that even when you're in airplane mode and even when you have privacy location, location services off, many, I believe, especially of the new phones, can still offer government and corporate ability to track you. can still offer government and corporate ability to track you.
Oh, clearly.
So this is, again, I don't know if we want to talk about this, but there is information going out there around this PSYOP or this event that may or may not be happening with regards to...
You know, using frequencies from 5G towers and other EMF sources, and I think perhaps Gwen Towers is the idea of the large towers, to activate or change health in our body right now.
Well, I do want to mention that, but on a practical note, first, let me just remind the audience to use a de-Googled phone.
Because if you use a de-Googled phone, which is a phone that doesn't run the Google Android operating system, it's completely de-Googled, and it doesn't run the Apple iPhone system either.
Because Google phones, which is all normal Android phones, are all Google phones, and Apple phones are constantly reporting metadata and key log trackers and other things to the servers of Google and Apple, which means they're broadcasting very frequently in the background when you aren't aware which means they're broadcasting very frequently in the background when you aren't So they're actually using more battery power, and they're subjecting you to more radiation.
So if you have a de-Googled phone, that phone is not spying on you constantly, And by the way, I'll just mention our affiliate sponsor in that space, and it took me over a year to find them, is called Above Phone.
And that's AbovePhone.com.
You have one?
Yeah, I got one.
Great development pathway, super valuable.
I've been working with one of their developers on how it could even be more useful, but I'm glad you mentioned that, Mike.
Yeah, we've had Romero here as a guest.
He's the founder of Above Phone.
And I've got now two of their phones.
But I was running, like even my other phone was de-googled long before that.
So that's a practical step.
If you still think you need the convenience of a phone, get rid of Google, get rid of Apple.
That's a step in the right direction.
But then all the things that you said, Josh, about airplane mode and turning it, even turn it off at night.
And by the way, there's also, there was a story that just popped up today, a geofencing warrant involving a church, I think in California, a church that refused to shut down during the pandemic.
And so as everybody went to the church, you know, their mobile phones spied on them and reported their geolocation data back to Google and Apple.
And then the government got that data and is trying to prosecute the church and the church members for gathering at a church because their phones spied on them.
So, you know, one more reason not to use those phones, not to trust those phones, because they are actually agents of the government.
Kyle, I see you nodding.
What are your thoughts on that subject?
Yeah, I agree too.
If we can de-platform our phones, I just met a guy in South Carolina at a convention.
That's what he's offering, is to clean up our phones and all of our gadgets so they're not spying on us 24-7.
I think this is a really good way of getting Big Brother out of our life a little more.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
With so many benefits, you know, less exposure to electromagnetic fields, but also the surveillance factors.
You know, privacy.
Privacy is a basic human right, and these phones are not only giving you cancer, they're invading your reality.
They're invading your home.
Who knows when the cameras are operating and they're snapping photos of you.
And by the way, there are other devices.
I know you've talked about this before, but Cal, your overall strategy doesn't also apply to things like the Ring doorbells and Amazon Alexa devices and things that are spying on you in your home.
And a lot of that is using the same corporate techniques of just trying to trick you into consenting to being spied on.
Yeah, we tend to stick to the four agendas only because we want to make sure that the document is properly being used.
So we go with the four things because they're happening the same way everywhere in Earth.
And the exact same technologies, same companies even in some cases.
And so some of these peripheral things, it's iffy and Definitely an Alexa-type thing, you have absolutely gone and put the thing in your house.
Where a smart meter, they're getting your agreement, but it's them pushing it onto your house.
And some people definitely don't want them, but they're really being coerced.
Same thing with the vaccines and these types of things.
There's some coercion and some push.
But an Alexa, you could just...
Unplug it and throw it in the recycling bin if you really wanted to.
But trying to get rid of a smart meter or the spraying in the sky is a lot more complex and a lot more difficult.
So we want to make sure that we're doing those four agendas only because it keeps everybody safe using the document.
And there's no question about what's going on.
Yeah, it's fascinating even about vaccines.
We're now seeing government agencies like OSHA Now coming out and claiming, oh, we never forced anybody to take the vaccine.
Everybody decided to do it themselves, even though they did, of course, aggressively push and mandate employers to mandate vaccines.
Now they're all backing away and saying, no, you consented to this.
They're obviously covering their asses on this because they know what's coming.
Well, consent makes it okay.
That's the thing.
And so we're taking that principle and flipping it back on them.
And that's when people at the higher levels, they understand what we're doing and they run.
We're seeing quite a bit of running.
So not everybody.
It's not like that.
But it's a percentage of how many people send the documents.
We're seeing a certain percentage of people leaving their positions because they get what's going on.
They're going to be held personally liable.
Their position won't protect them because there's It's limited liability, and that's the thing.
We're going on absolute liability.
Okay, we only have a few minutes left.
This has been fascinating so far.
Josh, what are your final thoughts wrapping this up about 5G in general?
Maybe before we do that, just really quickly to chain off what Cal said.
It's interesting that at three different phases, there's been so-called, you know, coincidences with so many people resigning, stepping down that are being held liable.
And we saw this even before in power movement.
So I made this documentary called Take Back Your Power back.
It released in 2013 about the smart meter issue and the problems thereof.
And before that even, I knew Cal a little bit and I knew his story that he was doing the different levels at the provincial, federal, and international level, even with the Queen of England at the time, and defaulting high-level officials and things were happening and they were stepping down at a remarkable rate, way beyond coincidence.
Cal, I don't want to tell this entire aspect of your story.
People can actually watch this.
Mike and I was thinking about sending you this link Because it provides the complete backstory on the notice of liability on in-power movement and Cal.
We released this back in 2017.
So this is a tried and true established organization that, you know, after Take Back Your Power came out, I went to Cal and I said, Cal...
What can we do to stop the smart meter agenda?
I thought my movie was going to do it.
Maybe a lot naive in that regard.
And then Cal and I, essentially, and others, a team, formed Empower Movement.
But this has been going, Mike, since 2014 to 2017.
We did seed groups in Seattle and Detroit and British Columbia.
And the same thing happened there.
People started, they were being held accountable, liable.
They're stepping down.
They don't want the liability in amounts that is way beyond coincidence.
And then now with this latest round, and I will just say in credit to the Empower team, I haven't been involved in the day-to-day since those days.
But they have taken the last six years to develop out and build out this notice of liability creator system, which takes all the guesswork out of it.
It facilitates support.
And it facilitates the documents being created for people exactly so they don't have to track things like, How much do I do this bill for now that I've defaulted these four respondents?
And it does it all for you with full support.
And in a community, a private member association community that is next level in terms of positivity and a can-do attitude.
So there's, I think, 600 people in this particular wave.
And they're going to be doing these waves every few months.
And they're going to be increasing in size.
I was on a call last night because there's eight weekly calls and there's three different regions worldwide.
And somebody was saying, oh yeah, just kind of almost casually, oh yeah, the Premier of Victoria, Dan, whatever his name, he's no longer in office.
We sent him, a whole bunch of people sent him.
And then there was about three or four like that, just examples of participants on that call that are saying people are stepping down.
Is that Andrews, our favorite tyrant out of Australia?
Yep.
Yeah.
And McGowan before that.
So if you look at isolated incidents, it could be like, you know, oh, that's just coincidence.
But if you look across the board, and this is something we noticed, and in 2014 to 2017, every single homeowner in our group of about 20 to 25 who did the notice of liability process to say no to smart meters kept their analog meter in the Seattle area.
All of them have.
And I believe to this day.
So this I just wanted to offer that in terms of context, like the work that I've done has has been getting awareness out.
But the work that Cal and in power are doing and I've looked at many sort of sovereignty teachers and many sort of, you know, law for mankind is a great course to take.
But these guys are actually applying it in a way that I don't I've never seen anything else comparable out there.
Okay, very powerful.
We do have to wrap this up.
We're out of time.
But let me give out the website again.
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And that enables you to have the downloaded files and all the bonus items on your local computer.
And you are free to share those files person to person.
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So I want to thank both of you gentlemen for joining me today.
It's been a fascinating discussion.
Thank you.
Thank you so much, Mike.
It's been great to be on.
I just wanted to quickly say, if anyone wanted to watch that video that I mentioned in 2017, it's on YouTube.
It's kind of been grandfathered in before the great removal.
It's called, if you search, In Power Episode 1.
In Power Episode 1, you can watch that.
That's Cal's story with a notice of liability.
And then Cal and Dave are going to be joining us towards the end of the summit.
So when you sign up on BrightU, if you click the daily email updates, that option, then you'll get an email for when we can go deeper with Cal as part of the new content within this event.
Okay, outstanding.
So many resources.
So much to learn, but we're so thankful that both of you are on top of this and helping the world free themselves from the tyranny and also the devastating health implications of what telecom is doing to all of us.
So thank you for joining us today.
Appreciate both of you.
And I look forward to having a very successful summit launch with you and also bringing more people to empower at the same time.
It's been great speaking with you both.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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