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Sept. 21, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Pistol-forming holster game changer? 1791 Gun Leather...
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And as you know, I'm a strong advocate of the Second Amendment.
I've been carrying concealed for decades.
And over this time, I have broken numerous holsters.
And I've become very unfriendly with Kydex because I break it all the time since I actually wear holsters during all my waking hours, including right now, every day at the studio.
I'm also very active because I live on a ranch, as you know, and I'm taking care of animals and I'm lifting small goats and I'm dealing with donkeys and chickens and whatever.
So I end up breaking a lot of gear, but that's good for you because I've found gear, holster gear, that actually works and doesn't break.
And it's an extraordinary innovation in the area of holsters.
And by the way, this is not a sponsored segment.
I haven't been paid a dime to bring you this.
This is just something that I discovered.
A friend of mine introduced me to this holster technology that has been working for me beautifully.
The innovation is something you may have never heard of in the holster space.
Because it's not a Kydex holster.
It's not a leather holster.
It's something different.
And it's something that can be custom formed to your firearms.
And so I reached out to the company called 1791 Gun Leather That's their web address.
To ask them if they would come on and talk about their technology.
And literally, this is the very first time that I'm speaking to these gentlemen.
And we have with us now three people from that company.
Romero Romani, known as Rambo.
He's the CEO. We've got Evan McNamara, who's sales and marketing.
And we've got Alex, who's also with product development.
And I've got my Glock 43X here on the desk.
And I've got holsters on me.
And I'm just thrilled to invite this company to come talk about their technology.
So welcome, gentlemen.
It's great to have you on.
Thanks, Mike.
It's great to be here.
Appreciate you having us on.
Well, I certainly appreciate the product solutions that you have put together.
So let's jump into it real quick.
Show my screen, guys.
I'm talking about this Ultra Custom Concealment Holster from 1791gunleather.com.
And this is a special kind of holster that can be formed to many different firearms.
So I don't know who wants to take this question of Evan or Romero, but jump in and tell us about the idea behind this holster and how you came up with this.
Alex, go ahead.
Sure.
So, the whole search started a long time before we actually brought it to market.
I'm a bit of a tinkerer, together with another partner that we have in development.
And I purchased a product online that was supposed to be, you know, the strongest and the lightest at the same time.
You know, stronger than steel, lighter than paper.
And basically what it is, it's a ultra high density material, yes, that It becomes soft when it is heated and it becomes hard when it's cooled down.
So what we did is we layered that material inside of two pieces of leather so that when you effectively warm the holster up, And we've got instructions on how to best do that.
The material becomes pliable and therefore allowing you to insert your firearm, obviously unloaded, into the holster itself.
Give it the shape that you want.
Massage all the different creases and particular shapes that your firearm may have.
Into the holster itself, you'll be surprised how well it actually molds.
If you've molded yours, I'm assuming you did, the inside of the holster will have every detail of the firearm that you molded the holster with.
And that's in essence what it is.
It's...
Something that started with a bit of a joke.
Hey, let's make a moldable holster.
This way we don't have to make all these different models.
At the end of the day, we found that there is a sub-segment of the market that is very interested in having a custom holster for their firearm.
There's also many firearms that companies don't make holsters for.
That's right.
People are still looking for holsters for those firearms and they just can't find them in the open market.
And this is certainly a solution for that as well.
Alright, let me just show the audience here.
So I just took this off my waist.
This happens to be a Glock 19 here with one of your holsters that is formed.
And it is, first of all, I want people to notice that there are no screws.
There's nothing that's going to loosen and fall out and break, because that's been a problem I've had over and over again with so many other holsters.
Even using some forms of thread lock, they tend to break or fall out, and you find, oh, you're missing screws, and then you've got a problem.
It fits very nicely.
It's got very strong retention, but also...
It's accessible.
So it's not too tight, but I have been active, again, in a ranch environment with animals and exercise and, of course, driving and buying groceries and all this stuff.
I've never had a retention problem, and I love the fact that it has this extra piece here that sits up against the body, this extra, I don't know what you call this, this flap.
It's a sweat guard.
A sweat guard, okay.
But it's very, very comfortable.
So I got to say, you guys, you hit a home run with this.
It's amazing.
Great job.
Yeah, Mike, when you kind of boil it down, I know it's simple.
It's simple as form.
It's really, you get the retention of a Kydex holster, but with the comfort of a leather holster.
I would agree with that.
I would agree with that.
And I love the fact, too, that if you change your firearm, as long as it's roughly the same size pistol, you can reheat the holster, you can reform it to the new pistol, and now you don't have to buy a whole new holster.
As many times as you want.
Yeah.
So it's very economical in that sense.
It might be a little more expensive up front, but not that much so.
This must have taken a tremendous amount of testing and iterations of development.
How did you finalize on this sandwiching of materials?
It did.
It took time in really honing in on What materials we wanted to use on the outside, we knew it needed to be soft.
If we used a rigid leather, you wouldn't be able to shape it and mold it the way that you are with that one.
That's the same leather we use in our smooth concealment holsters.
This product, actually, you're looking at the second iteration of it.
The first product that we launched was an inside the waistband version.
That one was...
Again, five, six sizes, and you're able to mold it to pretty much any firearm that's going to fit, like you mentioned.
Any similar size firearm will fit in each one of those sizes.
Then we went over and we did the outside the waistband version, which you are the one, that's the one that you have there.
That's right.
That one will, you know, thread through your belt like a standard, you know, outside the waistband holster.
And the third iteration of it is the same type of material, but a shape that would allow you to actually have a light laser as well as an optic.
All of those are also optic ready.
Yeah, that was another thing that I thought was real interesting.
So for my Glock 43 here, of course, I've got a red dot optic on top.
And I noticed that your holster for the red dot, I mean, it works just fine with it.
No problem there.
I don't currently run lights on any of these pistols, but I saw that you do have holsters that are capable of that.
And again, this is a common problem people have.
Maybe they're going to run a stream light or an O light or some other kind of light.
And it's impossible to find the combination of the pistol and the light that you need from typical holster manufacturers, right?
But with your solution, you can change the light and you just remold the holster if you have to just by dropping it in a bag in hot water.
It's so simple.
It takes about 10 minutes to warm it up and about another 5 to 10 minutes to massage the firearm into the holster and give it the shape.
We provide a couple tools that are provided with the holster itself that you can use to really give it that definition and many times modify the retention to the retention level that is most comfortable for yourself.
Well, again, extremely well done.
Let me ask Evan here.
Evan, what has the market response been on this?
Or have you been at shows like Shot Show?
And what kind of feedback are you getting on this holster?
Yeah, sure.
And really how I was sort of introduced to the company, when this product launched, I was with another company.
And that's really how I got introduced to them was through this technology.
I was introduced to it.
And so actually at SHOT Show, I went to go visit them.
And that's how I got introduced to Rambo and Alex and really explored the technology for a product that I was working on at the time.
But when you kind of walk it back, I mean, it's interesting.
It's sort of innovation in a category that isn't really known for innovation so much around holsters.
Especially leather holsters.
And so, you know, the market response has been really good.
Back in 2020, when the product launched, Guns& Ammo recognized it as the Holster of the Year Award, which is pretty significant.
That's a big deal, yeah.
And there is kind of an education piece to it, you know, that's required.
Again, if you look at your general gun owner, your concealed carrier, your everyday carry, they're sort of used to what they're used to.
There is an education piece to it that's required.
But again, it's very simple to use.
I always liken it to molding a mouthpiece like you used to do back in the day when you were a kid and playing sports.
And so we're really proud of the product.
Well, I think you should be.
I want to bring in Romero here.
And my question to you, Romero, is your philosophy for the company.
Because, see, I believe that gear has to work when it counts, right?
And I also believe that we live in a very unpredictable world right now.
There's more violent crime everywhere.
The state of Illinois just...
We've enacted a new law, a no-bail law, so that the criminals who commit murder and burglaries and robberies and kidnappings can just be issued a ticket and put back out on the streets.
And so in this kind of environment, our gear must work.
If your gear fails, you could die when you need it the most.
So is that part of the philosophy that drives you with this company, Ramiro?
Well, of course, when we created the company back in 2016 with Alex, the most important thing for us was to put out there that quality, bringing back that legacy of tested,
top of the line gear, which It was little by little disappearing from the market when those traditional accessory companies were being bought out by big corporations and the product got slimmer or cheaper, started to be made overseas somewhere.
And you lost a lot of that, right?
So one of our outmost concerns is testing.
Once and again, with professionals, with instructors, and with everybody in the industry to gain that consensus.
And I think with the Ultra Custom, it was tested by editors of major publications, law enforcement, and different professionals, until we got it to that point that we said, okay, it's ready to go in the market, and it's going to do what it has to do when...
When you have a difficult crossfire situation or anything, you wouldn't like to be happening to you, right?
Yeah, you don't want a wardrobe malfunction or a holster malfunction.
Absolutely.
It won't happen with a 1791, I assure you.
No, yeah, exactly.
But like I said in the intro, I've experienced so many failures of Kydex holsters.
It's almost embarrassing.
They always break vertically along a curve.
And again, because I carry all the time.
And this is the other thing that I want to remind our viewers.
A lot of people, they have a concealed carry permit, but they don't actually carry concealed.
Or they have a gun, but it's by the bed or it's in the closet somewhere.
Hey, that's not going to help you, folks.
If you don't have it on you when things go down, then what's the point?
And if you're going to carry all the time every day where it is, of course, legal, I always encourage you to check your local laws and keep it legal.
But if you're going to carry every day, you've got to have gear that works every single day and doesn't keep breaking on you.
Guys, I haven't had any problems.
I haven't had any stitches come out of this.
I haven't had any tears.
The leather is very durable and quite thick, in fact, here.
I'm looking at it right now.
I'm just...
I'm astonished.
I guess my only criticism is your box is a little dramatic.
The hologram on the front and everything.
Personally, I don't need all that.
I'm just happy to have the holster, but the box is also pretty interesting.
Well, you know, at first we were trying to figure out how to let people know what it was, right?
And I remember when we were figuring out what we were going to do on the box, I looked at a cereal box that my kids had at home.
I was like, oh my God, you know, we could use something like this on the front of the box for the holster where you show it not molded and molded.
It's something so new, it's a novelty to so many that they can't visualize the change in potential shape that we're able to give this holster.
So that's kind of how we went with it at first.
The second iteration of the box no longer has that, so you'd be happy with that one as well.
Oh, okay.
And let me also, for the audience, let me run through some additional basics.
And guys, jump in at any time if I misstate anything.
But as I understand it, you have, is it basically seven different sizes of this that accommodate subcompact, compact, carry, full size, and so on?
What's the correct number?
So it depends.
You know, we've got the inside-the-waistband versions, which are five sizes.
Okay.
The outside-the-waistband version is also five sizes, and the light-bearing version is actually only three sizes.
Oh, okay.
Got it.
Got it.
So what we're looking at on screen here is first the light-bearing sizes, so there's the three on top.
Yeah, and basically, you know, you'll go with your smaller firearms.
You can see them over there on the left.
Yeah.
In the middle, you've got the largest size, actually, which is for your P320s, your much larger full-size firearms.
And all the way on the right, you've got for your Glock 17, Glock 19, subcompact or compact, actually, firearms as well.
Okay.
And again, to our audience, what's critical to understand here is these are not specific to one firearm.
So here on the left, this looks like a SIG P365, probably.
But it can also handle, I think, like a Glock 43X. And then, you know, over here on the right, the Glock 19 can handle like a Hellcat Pro or other firearms.
And that's the thing.
Shield, MP40. Exactly.
You know.
Everything that is of that similar size frame will work in there.
And I think especially talking about the light bearing, you touched on a really important point.
You know, there are so many light, optic, and firearm combinations out there that it's practically impossible for somebody to come up with a product that is going to satisfy your particular needs.
So if you've got a firearm with a larger light and an optic and want to switch out the light for a smaller light, You can still use that same holster.
You just need to remold it, reheat it, put it inside the holster, and use the holster itself to create that retention of the firearm.
We haven't found another solution out there that is as comfortable and as versatile as this for all of the different variations that are potentially out there.
Yeah.
I mean, here's even a 1911 in one of your holsters as well.
So you cover the whole range.
I also want to mention, you know, I've seen a lot of people, this is not, I don't do this, but a lot of people run oversized mag release buttons or slide release buttons.
You know, people like to put a lot of extra stuff for some reason all over their pistols.
And that can change the retention factors in a normal holster.
But if you If you use your holster and mold it to the gear that's on the gun, then you're going to get the retention that you are aiming for, whatever that happens to be.
I mean, that's an important factor.
People put a lot of stuff on their guns.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's another key attribute to the holster itself, especially with more and more accessories being introduced.
It's nice to have the option to be able to custom Yeah, absolutely.
Now, okay, next question.
You already mentioned you have inside the waistband holsters and then outside the waistband holsters.
But I understand, and I have not used these, you have EDC organizers.
So I've got those up on the screen right now.
Also, I guess the same quality of leather work that you have in your holsters, but for carrying various gear.
Can you talk about this line that you have?
Sure.
Evan, you want to take it or I'll take this one?
If you want to take it, Alex, go ahead.
Well, just, you know, these products are kind of an offshoot of what we were doing.
We were looking to bring another product line to market that would use the capabilities that we have.
We use the same highest quality leathers.
And craftsmanship in each one of these.
But these are more geared towards your DIYer, handyman, do-it-yourselfer, electrician, plumber, the super at a building.
And they're geared towards carrying a multi-tool flashlight, knife, and other accessories that people are usually cramming into their pockets.
These things tend to either tear your pockets from the inside, tear your pants wherever you're clipping them on.
No, I didn't mean to interrupt.
I was just laughing because I have the same problem because this is stuff I do carry every day, but I don't have an organizer like yours.
We've seen a lot of people, though, take that organizer that you have there, equip it with a flashlight and a knife, and instead of putting a multi-tool in the multi-tool pocket, they're actually putting a magazine in there.
That makes sense.
In that additional pocket.
So you're able to carry your firearm on one side and another magazine as a mag carrier, but with the additional benefit of a light and a flashlight.
That makes perfect sense.
Yeah.
Well, that's outstanding.
So you have been doing holsters first, and then this came next, or is it the other way around?
Yeah, holsters came first, and then this came next.
These can be found on our 1791gunleather.com website, as well as our 1791EDC.com website, which carries the entire line of tool organizers.
And may I ask, where are you located, by the way?
So we're all in different places.
Oh, I mean, where's the stuff made?
Rambo and I are in Florida and Evan is in Virginia Beach.
Our manufacturing facility is actually in Mexico City and we manufacture all our goods with 100% American leather sourced directly here, actually in Kansas is where we buy our leather.
No kidding.
Okay, so you do the designs, you do the quality control, leather comes from America, manufacturing in Mexico City, but your company is largely based in Florida.
Do I have all that right?
Yes.
Basically, well, Alex and I grew up in Mexico City.
We went to American school for many, many years, played football together there.
And at a point, when we were working in different industries, we wanted to do something with the craftsmanship Mexico can offer.
Here in the United States, it's a dying trade in some sort.
Finding artisans that can really help us to take it all the way, you know, make a factory with the different stations and without giving an inch of quality and craftsmanship, being able to produce 1,200 to 1,500 holsters a day, right?
And also, growing up there, we wanted to give an opportunity to people there.
As a matter of fact, most of our workers are single moms.
We created a night school because a lot of them hadn't finished high school.
We put some of them through college.
And a trade school.
So we had this project to give them education there, an opportunity there, a place we adore and we like very much because we grew up there.
So they get a chance to educate their kids and have an opportunity and don't have to come to the States and in an illegal fashion, right?
So we try to give that social part of giving back in our factory.
Well, that makes perfect sense, and you don't have to sell me on the craftsmanship of the people there.
I used to live in South America, and I saw firsthand the leather craftsmanship, especially saddles.
I met a couple of saddle makers there in Ecuador who were just extraordinary.
I had never seen anything like that being done in the United States, not in my lifetime.
And leather is something that a lot of people in Mexico, Central and South America, they grow up learning how to work with leather because it's such a functional material.
And I would imagine that you were able to find people pretty readily who wanted to work on this, right?
It took some time, but we found the people when we trained them and little by little, they became experts themselves.
And we've got people, like Rambo said, mostly female single moms that have been with us for many, many years, and they've become experts themselves in this art.
Wow.
Well, that's an amazing story.
Also want to mention, you've got, I mean, I'm just trying to go through everything that you offer.
You've got gun belts as well.
I have that up on my screen here as well.
And you've got many other products, I guess all of them made out of leather one way or another.
Let's see, you've got the snag mag, you've got the tool organizers we've covered, rifle slings, mag carriers, gear, and so on.
Am I leaving out anything or does that cover it?
We also have some rifle slings as well for a smaller segment of the product line.
But certainly you touched on our gumbelts.
I think that's a key one for us.
It's a little bit thicker, sturdier leather than I think what you'd be used to from your typical department store belt.
14-ounce full grain leather.
And it's a really popular product for us, and we just get a ton of great product feedback on those belts as well.
And it's really kind of a perfect complement to a lot of our belt holsters.
Okay.
Well, I'm going to try that next because I've also torn up way too many belts.
Well, this will probably be the last belt you have to get.
Okay.
To be honest, it's a super sturdy, thick belt.
It won't sag.
It won't stretch.
It's a great belt.
Okay.
It's a gun belt.
It's supposed to do that.
So you can carry your gun safely, right?
It won't bulge.
It won't bend.
I've had mine for five years now.
I still wear the same one.
Wow.
Wow.
Well, that's amazing.
Well, look.
Yeah?
I was going to say, I think it's important to note, too, that all our products come with a lifetime warranty, so we stand by the quality and just the overall craftsmanship of the product.
No kidding?
So, okay, if I ever have a problem with this holster, really, you'll replace it?
Absolutely.
Oh, man.
Okay, well, I'm going to push it to the limit.
There's no doubt about that.
Bring it on.
We dare you to.
You see, I've been wearing it for quite some time.
It's got a little bit of some body oils that have rubbed into the holster or something.
I've been putting it through the paces, and a couple of them, too, and trying different pistols with it.
I'm definitely going to give you guys some feedback.
After the interview, let me give you my direct number so we can keep in touch, and I'd love to give you more feedback.
But I guess last thing I would say is, you know, how can our audience take advantage of this?
I mean, do you have an email list, or should they just go to your website, check it out?
Or, you know, what's the best way for people to encourage people to try this out for themselves?
Yeah, I think the best thing to do, Mike, you nailed it, was just visit the website, 1791gunleather.com, as well as 1791edc.com, and then also we're on most of the social platforms.
As well.
So we can be followed on social as well.
Okay.
All right.
Excellent.
I will do that again.
1791gunleather.com.
And I assume the year 1791 is the signing of the Bill of Rights.
Is that what that's alluding to?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
The Second Amendment, yeah.
Getting ratified into the Bill of Rights.
Okay, perfect.
Okay, that makes sense.
I'm glad.
December 15, 1791.
Okay, good.
Well, as an American, I should know at least that much of American history, the Second Amendment, although I think the governor of New Mexico doesn't know that part about American history, it turns out.
But I just want to thank you guys for joining me.
This has been fun, and I appreciate you coming on and spending time with me.
And I just want to say, you know, I'm thrilled about your product.
I also want to clarify to the audience, you know, we don't have any financial arrangement of any kind.
I haven't been paid to have these folks on.
I don't earn anything off their sales.
I just love to promote companies that have solutions that work.
And especially in this...
You know, very uncertain time in our world.
You need gear that's absolutely going to work, and these holsters work.
There's just no doubt about it.
Look, if you get one of these and you don't like it, let me know about it, and I'll pass the complaint over to these guys, but I doubt you're going to complain.
I think you're going to love it.
So any final words to wrap this up, guys?
Thanks for being a customer.
We appreciate it.
Absolutely.
Thrilled to be a customer.
And, Romero, thank you for, you know, you and Evan putting all this together, or Alex, I'm sorry, putting this together, and then Evan joined later, as I understand.
But thank you for putting this together, for having innovation, that ingenuity, for gear that's reliable.
We appreciate you, and we wish you the best success in your business.
Mike, we'd like to thank you and your whole audience.
Thank you very much for your time.
Absolutely.
We're happy to have you here.
And we'll talk again.
Let us know how things go.
Absolutely.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you for joining me, folks.
So there you go, guys.
1791gunleather.com.
Really fascinating.
This was literally the first time I've spoken with these gentlemen and fascinated to learn about their company and their solutions that work.
You know that...
You know, people offer me big dollars to endorse various products, and I usually say no, and I end up endorsing things for free when they work, and that's what this is, okay?
So I just want you to know, I'm all about gear that works, and if you hear me recommend anything on this show or otherwise, you can rest assured it's something that is going to work for you, and that's exactly what this is.
So check them out, give them your support, 1791gunleather.com.
And thanks for watching.
Feel free to repost this interview on other channels and platforms.
I'm Mike Adams here.
Of course, the founder of Brighteon.com, the free speech platform where you can speak in an uncensored manner about the Second Amendment and other topics that matter most.
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