Dr. Brian Hooker and Natalie Sadie from CHD interviewed by Mike Adams
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and today we're joined by two very special people from CHD, Children's Health Defense, which has done extraordinary work in the nonprofit space to try to raise awareness about, well, personal health, safety, liberty, the right to say no to experimental jabs, among other things.
And we're joined today by Dr.
Brian Hooker, who is now working with CHD, and also Natalie Sadie, who is the head of CHD California, the new chapter that's just recently been launched in California.
Welcome to the show, both of you.
It's an honor to have you on, and thank you for the work that you're doing for the world.
Welcome to the show.
Well, thank you very much.
Oh, you said that simultaneously, yeah.
Yes.
Great minds think alike.
And can I just say really quickly, I'm not the head of the new California chapter.
I'm on the leadership team.
I just don't want to step on any toes.
Oh, okay.
My apologies.
Okay, you're on the leadership council for the new chapter of CHD California.
Got that.
My mistake.
This is the first time that we've met, so you'll have to fill in a few details for me here.
But Let's start with the fact that CHD California has launched a new chapter.
You want to go ahead and tell us about that, Natalie?
Yeah, so the old chapter closed down and we relaunched the day after and we just wanted to get back to the grassroots of what Bobby Kennedy's vision was when he started Children's Health Defence 13 years ago.
And so we are completely volunteer-based.
Our leadership...
This board is made up of a whole range of different people.
We've got professionals, we've got stay-at-home mums, we've got doctors, we've got all sorts of people that are pulling together to really create an incredible community so that we can bring things to the wider community and we'll get into some of the things that we're doing.
And then we also brought in an incredible advisory council and Dr Brian Hooker is one of the people That is on that board.
We have Dr.
Peter McCullough, who we know has been an incredible voice through the last few years and has also published a book, The Courage to Face COVID-19.
We have attorney Michael Baum, who is responsible for the massive win against Monsanto and Roundup that we all know about and was responsible for the release of the Monsanto papers.
We have Pastor Rob McCoy, who did not shut down during COVID at all.
And he was fighting for freedom of speech, freedom of religion and just our freedom in general and creating a safe haven for people to congregate.
We have author John Leake, who is the co-author of The Courage to Face COVID-19.
And I know I'm missing somebody.
We have Toby Rogers, PhD, and his thesis was the political economy of autism.
Excuse me for reading, but I didn't want to mess up what...
What incredible work he has done.
So we have brought this incredible team together so that we can go out into the community and really do great things and bring the community together.
Well, that's extraordinary.
Thank you for that introduction.
And I think that in the minds of most of our viewers, what CHD has already accomplished is rather extraordinary.
And the work of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
as the author of the book on Fauci and so many other things has also been extraordinary.
We've been covering CHD since before it was called CHD, you know, the World Mercury Project and all the concerns about mercury in the environment and protecting the health and health freedom of children.
So thank you for all that you're doing.
I want to bring in Dr.
Brian Hooker next.
So Dr.
Hooker, your role is as a science advisor with CHD, correct?
Can you tell us what is your focus right now?
What are you looking at the most closely?
Well, in California, one of the biggest efforts is to educate the public regarding the draconian bills that go through the legislature.
We have had this fight, and I've been involved in this fight in California.
I'm a California resident myself, and so this directly affects me.
So when I was asked to be a part of their advisory board, I was just tickled pink to be able to do that.
But Much of what we do is educational, not only to oppose the bad bills that are in front of the current legislature, but also to look at some of the past legislation.
You know, California is the one that brought you SB 277 and then SB 276, which was 277 on steroids.
And so, you know, we've been fighting this battle and we want to show the harm and damage that is being caused by, you know, these unneeded, unnecessary jabs.
And, you know, I think that COVID-19 has really brought that into the forefront of people's minds because, you know, for the first time we have population-wide vaccination in a very, very coercive fashion.
And so getting the science out there to show the differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated children, vaccinated and unvaccinated adults, I think is really, really compulsory to, And again, California is so near and dear to my heart.
I grew up in Los Angeles.
I now live in the North State in Redding, California.
And we want to make sure that we can make as big of an impact as possible and educate as many people as possible so we can prevent this type of legislation from just really taking over our state.
The website, folks, is ca.childrenshealthdefense.org.
I've got it up on my screen to show you the California chapter there.
And you see some of the issues here.
California public school alternatives, right?
Call to action, AB659, HPV bill, and so on.
Natalie, my question to you is, are you now in the post-COVID era?
Are you seeing...
A lot more, I would say moms, but maybe parents as a whole, coming out and expressing concern about the vaccine mandates in the public school system.
Are you seeing a stronger trend towards homeschooling or even naturopathic medicine?
What are you seeing?
For me personally, I think the last few years has really woken a lot of people up to the fact that there is something going on Now that there is a belief that health comes through the tip of a needle and that's not necessarily true.
Humanity has survived for so very long and most of that time we were using natural remedies and food and what have you and obviously sanitation played a huge part in extending the lifespan of people and I think these forced vaccinations For COVID has really made a lot of people stop and go, hang on, is there more to this?
So there certainly has been an awakening and people searching for more information.
And there's a whole range of books that people can read, Turtles All the Way Down, which Mary Holland is responsible for having translated and bringing to publication, which is a phenomenal book.
I've spoken to doctors that said that book changed their perspective on the whole vaccination ideology.
So there are certainly more people looking for information and there are people that have also woken up to what's going on in the schooling system.
So they certainly are looking for alternatives and maybe they don't have those answers yet but they're certainly looking.
Well, that is really exciting to hear that there are more people looking and that CHD is providing a lot of answers.
I think the role of your organization is critical in society.
And I want to bring attention also to your national chapter here, just childrenshealthdefense.org.
My organization is a supporter and a donor to CHD. So, you know, national issues here.
The place where a lot of these medical experiments, in my opinion, are first tried out or they're pushed onto children, it seems to me that children in California are on the front lines the most vulnerable to the most wicked attempts by the industry or the establishment to take away health freedom and fertility and longevity from children.
Would you agree or disagree with that assessment?
I would agree with that assessment.
I think that really California is the tip of the spear.
And, you know, there are certain nuances within our legislature that make it easier for some of these draconian bills to pass.
You know, there has been the health freedom movement has had a difficult time in California.
And, you know, one of the things that that I've avoided and, you know, I've heard many, many times.
And now we've got people leaving the state in droves.
It's one of the states in the United States where the population is actually decreasing and we're seeing contraction.
And we don't really want to have that.
California is my home and has been my home.
And I don't want to see these draconian bills passed.
I don't want to see it be the hotbed of medical experimentation, especially at the hands of our children.
I have a vaccine injured child who's now an adult myself or his self.
And I would not wish that onto any parent, onto any family.
And so it's been...
As Natalie said, it's been very encouraging to see individuals start to wake up.
My focus has been more on practitioners and more on individuals who have sort of been enlightened during the COVID-19 era.
But to bring them back, you know, I've been doing this for about 20 years and to hearken them back to, you know, the era when we we started having these mandates, the era when Tamarisol was at a heightened level in vaccinations in the early 2000s and the cataclysm the era when Tamarisol was at a heightened level in vaccinations in the early 2000s and the cataclysm that actually caused
And many of them are really, really starting to wake up and starting to challenge the paradigm and ask questions around the whole issue regarding cradle to grave vaccination.
Huge point.
In fact, I wanted to mention, and the question will be directed to Natalie here, but Brian, you and I, I've known of you, I think I interviewed you many years ago, but I've known of your work for at least a decade, if not longer.
You and I have been among those who were, I would say, blazing the trail in many ways, and Dr.
Wakefield and others, Andy, who has done extraordinary work in this space, blazing the trail of public awareness of this.
And then with COVID, the COVID vaccine issue has now awakened a huge number of people to the issues that we have been warning about for a great number of years.
Well, actually, let me direct back to you, Brian.
Do you have a response to that?
Do you feel in some way vindicated for some of your early warnings that now people are realizing were, in fact, accurate?
I certainly do.
And I think it's a very, very good time and a very, very sort of poignant time for the health freedom movement because a lot of individuals are starting to wake up.
When you look at the national statistics, just under 70 people or 70 percent of the United States got the first one or more COVID-19 vaccines.
So that's 30 percent that didn't.
And now when you look at this sort of There's a never-ending litany of boosters that are being foisted on children as young as six months of age.
So many parents are opting out, and when they're opting out, they're asking their practitioners, and then they're asking other individuals like advocates like ourselves, you know, what do you think about the vaccination schedule?
I am very, very encouraged, and I think it's important to use the word vindicated.
I do feel vindicated for all these years of effort, all these years of persecution that, Mike, you and I have both endured, and it really warms my heart, and I feel like we're saving children.
You clearly are.
You are saving children.
Children's Health Defense is saving children.
There are no doubt there are young adults alive today because of your work, Dr.
Hooker.
No question in my mind.
Now, Natalie, this is the first time we've met, so I don't know your background, but could you share with our audience what brought you to this leadership role with CHD in California?
Why are you so passionate about this topic?
First of all, I think one of the things that makes me so passionate is just freedom of choice.
We should be able to choose what we are doing to our bodies.
Our bodies don't belong to the state, to any particular country or...
You know, we hear the slogan and we heard it all through 2020, 2021 and 22, my body, my choice.
And apparently that argument is valid for one particular cause but not another.
And I just so strongly disagree with the fact that people think that we shouldn't have a choice over all of that.
My background is nothing like Brian's in terms of being in the medical industry.
I worked in entertainment back in Australia.
I've done television work.
I've modelled full-time.
I came over to the US and was really trying to establish a hosting career and modelling, and I was doing all of that, and then the world shut down.
And so I sat around like everybody else, actually.
I didn't sit.
I kept moving.
I was outside.
all day, every day, because I refused to sit inside and just watch the TV, because something felt so off about the directives we were being given.
I understand staying safe and hygiene and all of those things, but so much of what we were being told didn't make sense.
In the middle of 2020, I got a phone call from some journalists in Australia, and they said, we want to work with you.
And I said, I don't have a journalism background.
And they said, that's fine, we'll teach you.
And it turns out I have a knack for investigative journalism.
So my first story that I did with that organisation, and I'm no longer with them, but We're on hydroxychloroquine.
And that was sort of before anybody was talking about it.
and I was covering the fact that obesity was one of the major comorbidities for people that were dying because of COVID.
And my question was, and nobody ever answered it at the time since then, I've had an answer, but why aren't we talking about it?
Instead of telling people to stay home, watch TV and don't move, we're telling them to get fatter because while they're sitting there, they're watching fast food ads and all of these things.
Crazy.
Which is, it's just crazy.
And I said, why aren't we telling them to get up and go outside, vitamin D, fresh air, keep moving.
And while you have the time, while your workplace is shut down, if you don't know how to cook, learn.
This is a time to get together with the family and make really healthy meals and do things that can improve your health.
So that was sort of the beginning of it.
And then I interviewed Del Bigtree, I interviewed Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and it kind of just snowballed from there.
And I'm a huge advocate for freedom.
Well, now, in your home country of Australia, then, New South Wales in particular, was known throughout the pandemic for the most draconian, seemingly anti-human rights demands of its citizens.
The forced quarantine camps, the forced masking, social distancing, the attacks on anyone.
Somehow, the Australian government became...
Perhaps, arguably, the most vicious in the world.
Even more vicious than the US government.
Yeah, go ahead.
Absolutely.
What I was going to say was all of Australia was just insane with what they did.
And the irony is I had just come back from Australia in January of 2020 and Then we obviously shut down first here in California.
And so people were calling me saying, you've got to come back.
And my gut just told me, stay put.
I have a dog.
I have a house.
I'm just staying where I am.
And I said to them, whatever we have is coming to you six months later.
And six months later, their lockdowns were beyond insane.
But it was actually Victoria that was more brutal situation.
It's from Victoria where there were the massive protests that were making, well, headlines with the independent reporters, not so much on mainstream media, but they were peaceful protests.
Nothing was being burned down.
There wasn't looting.
There wasn't anything.
People were just saying, we are not going to be locked down.
They were fighting for their unions to stand up for them, and police were firing rubber bullets, tear gas, all sorts of things on people that were not violent.
And that is something we have never seen in Australia before, and it was heartbreaking to watch.
That's why, you know, Children's Health Defence, the name emphasises the focus of health and protecting children.
But it's really, the mission, I would say, is much more broad.
It's human rights defence.
You know, it just starts with children, but it's about all of human rights.
And back to you, Brian...
Wouldn't you say that what you're finding in your research is, in fact, a violation?
I mean, I don't mean to put words in your mouth so you can correct me if I'm stating this incorrectly, but the aggressiveness of the experimental medicine on adults and senior citizens and children is an assault on human rights and human dignity, is it not?
I couldn't have said it better, Mike.
I really feel like, you know, the Nuremberg Code was just trampled on, you know, mercilessly.
It's not like the medical authorities and public health authorities have had any respect for the Nuremberg Code before COVID-19, but it just got so much worse.
And you see the hospital protocols that were basically designed to kill people.
I mean, I think we need to address that.
We need to come out and say that that individuals that were put on ventilators, that were put on remdesivir, which is a drug that basically destroys your internal organs.
And then, you know, basically as this sort of standard protocol, as the standard of care from on high, from Anthony Fauci himself, and to see the death and carnage, to see the all-cause mortality and the mortality due to COVID-19 in the real to see the all-cause mortality and the mortality due to COVID-19 in the real big push, that would be March, April, and May of 2020 when the ventilator
You know, it was absolutely insane and criminal.
I mean, we have to say that we have seen our federal government in collusion to commit murder.
And, you know, this goes beyond just the ventilators.
We've looked at the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis from the COVID-19 shot.
And I recently published a paper with my associate, Carl Jablonowski, Yes.
that there was a signal for myocarditis and pericarditis, but they chose to bury the information for at least three months.
And during those three months, the vaccination rate in the United States went from 8% to 50%.
And so all of these lives that have been harmed, that have been irreparably damaged, myocarditis is not minor.
It is not basic.
It is a cardiac event that you're going to live for for the rest of your life, which could curtail your life as well.
But yet we have these federal agencies covering them up in a very, very criminal, colluded way.
Isn't that extraordinary that the deliberate withholding of certain information caused more people, in what you're describing, over 100 million more Americans, subject themselves to experimental medicine that had known dangers, while, again, the facts of those dangers were withheld fundamentally?
From the people on purpose.
It seems like to me, Brian, in any other area, that would be considered a criminal act.
I mean, for example, if a car manufacturer had an automobile, let's just say if it were Ford, theoretically.
If Ford had a truck and they knew that the truck would just blow up and kill some percent of people and they withheld that information from the public and refused to recall, refused to acknowledge it, Wouldn't Ford, I mean I know you're not an attorney, but just logically speaking, couldn't that subject a corporation to criminal prosecution, not just civil violations?
Absolutely.
I mean, you know, this type of misconduct should not go on.
It should not continue.
And, you know, you think of this in terms of, like, voluntary manslaughter.
You know, that's the term that comes to mind in my not-so-legal mind.
Or, you know, this type of harm, this type of assault...
That is being was being foisted onto society when the officials when Fauci himself clearly knew that this vaccine was going to cause massive amounts of damage.
And yet it did not prevent transmission.
It did not prevent infection.
And so, you know, you it leaves you scratching your head like how can they actually get away with this?
Yeah, perhaps COVID jabs are the Ford Pinto of the medical world.
But to you, Natalie, let me shift gears here and change the question up.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
founded Children's Health Defense, and he has been an extraordinary pioneer in the operations of the organization.
He's now running for president.
Obviously, as I've interviewed him, and I think most people know, and he's gaining in popularity quite rapidly.
My question to you, and I apologize if this sounds like a harsh question, but how is Children's Health Defense functioning without him at the helm?
I mean, his time away from CHD must be hurting in some way the ability of the organization to continue.
Am I wrong in that, or who's covering for him while he's campaigning?
We have incredible people in place and over the last 13 years before Bobby stepped away, he led the way with...
In such an incredible way that he instilled in everybody that's still working for the organization what our mission was, what we need to do and how we need to do it.
So thankfully people have been put in place to continue that legacy and we are honoring everything that he stood for.
We are continuing that work and we won't stop.
Well, that's really great to hear because we don't want CHD to be interrupted in any way whatsoever.
And as you just said, it isn't being interrupted.
In fact, folks, if you want to help support Children's Health Defense, the California chapter, again, is at ca.childrenshealthdefense.org.
Donations are available or accepted there.
You can click the Donate button up top.
Or if you wish to donate to the national chapter, it's just childrenshealthdefense.org.
And then I guess we'll all just kind of see what happens with the Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
presidential campaign, which is completely separate from Children's Health Defense operation.
Yeah, I want to be clear about that too.
But CHD does its work regardless of what happens on the campaign trail, and that's good to know.
Can I just say one other thing about the websites?
For anyone that's interested in any of our events, obviously they can go to the website and donate, which we appreciate because all of our funds go into fighting the different causes, whether it be fighting the mandates or different lawsuits that are going on around the country or specifically whether it be fighting the mandates or different lawsuits that are going on But people can also opt in to either volunteer or for our emails.
And with the emails, you'll find out about all the incredible events that we're holding throughout the state, not just here in Southern California, but up in Northern California.
We have speaker events where we have incredible guest speakers coming to help educate people on everything that's going on.
Dr.
Brian Hooker is going to be one of the people that we have speaking.
We're also doing screenings of things like The Real Anthony Fauci, so people that maybe haven't read the book can come and watch it.
And also it gives people a chance to come together as a community.
And meet people from their own tribe, essentially.
Because I know the last few years, a lot of people have felt very alone and isolated because everybody's been told that if you question anything, you are crazy.
And the reality is we're not.
We're human and we're searching for answers.
And to be around people that feel the same way is an incredible thing.
And it also gives you resources.
And we're also doing other community events in terms of preparation for what happens if there is some sort of natural disaster or an EMP strike and things like that.
We recently down here in Los Angeles had an event with Steve Slepcevic and he was telling us how to prepare so that we have everything we need like satellite phones, How much water we need, food, all those sorts of things.
And so that's what opting into the email will do for people.
Okay.
Outstanding.
Right.
So people can just click join on the website and here you can put in your name and email address and join the email list and can also volunteer for the organization.
So I just want to encourage people to consider that.
We only have a few minutes left here, but what are the big issues that you're working on right now in California, Natalie?
Well, I'll throw this one to Brian.
So, Brian, go for it.
Brian, you're up.
Sure.
There are several different big issues that we're working on in California.
There is a bill that CHD has fought hard against, and it's AB 659, and that was originally a mandate for For the HPV vaccine for individuals 8th grade and above, all the way through the California State University, University of California, and then the California Community Colleges, that was going to be a mandate.
And there was such an outcry and there was such a I love advocates in California.
They're so dedicated and they just come out of the woodwork from everywhere.
It's very, very easy to get a groundswell in Sacramento.
And so that mandate was was amended away from that bill.
But the bill still has language that suggests that that these entities can act as if that is a mandate, you You know, it's coercion at its best.
It is not legally a mandate, but they're basically hiding the fact that these individuals can opt out of this particular vaccination for school attendance from 8th grade and above and then for higher education.
And so we're still fighting that bill.
It has passed through the Assembly and it's now moving on to the Senate.
And our hope is that we can stop it dead in its tracks in the Senate.
We're also fighting battles at the school board level and at the county level, including some legal battles regarding 5G technology and the placement of 5G technology.
That's another area that is really near and dear to CHD's heart is EMF and EMR.
And so we're fighting that, you know, there is really no personal need for 5G technology.
It seems like 5G really kind of ushers in the surveillance state because your every move can be monitored through this type of bandwidth.
But yet it is proven to be so unhealthy and people, especially with EMF sensitivities, are getting very, very sick.
And yet, you know, the companies that use EMF and that are placing EMF almost have free reign over where they place these technologies and where they place these transmitters.
And so it's, you know, we're fighting that.
We're pushing back on that in a very, very concerted way.
Well, good for you.
I'm really glad to hear that because, you know, for years people were laughed at about the issue if you talked about 5G or cell towers or EMFs of any kind, electropollution.
And as you know, Brian, the science has now been rather...
Supportive of the notion that exposure to electromagnetic radiation, especially over a long period of time, is associated with numerous issues, including in some cases neurological issues and neurodevelopmental issues.
So keep up your work there.
We really appreciate you.
Last question for today's interview.
I'm going to direct this back to Natalie.
Now, so you're a relative newcomer to California, as it seems like you've explained.
A lot of people I see here in Texas have fled California.
And they describe it as fleeing California because they've thrown in the towel.
And they've decided it's too much authoritarianism.
It's too insane.
They have to leave.
I'm happy that Children's Health Defense California is there on the ground fighting for the freedom and health and rights of the children who are there in California.
But what's it like To be there as someone, you know, you came from Australia to see what's happening in California, to see the level of authoritarianism being directed to children in terms of the medical choices.
Give us your perspective as a relative newcomer to the scene.
Well, and I have to be quite upfront here, I don't have children, but everyone in my circle does.
So I am watching what's being done to their children and it's horrifying.
What does bring me hope is the fact that there are incredible people that chose to stay and fight for this beautiful state.
And it is, I mean, we've got the ocean, we've got these incredible forests, we have so much...
Beauty here.
And why should we be forced out of a place that we love to live?
In terms of living here, I think like humans do, we find workarounds.
You find ways to work around what is being put in place while you're fighting what is going on.
And I understand people just saying, I can't do this and needing to take their family to safety.
But it gives me...
So much joy to think about all the people that stayed and are fighting this.
And again, it's brought community together.
People find each other and figure out homeschooling together.
And I think things like that are making this state still be incredible.
Well, well said.
And we're rooting for you from Texas.
But we're also fighting in Texas for the same thing, you know, to make sure that children are protected.
And it's in every state, right?
This is a battle in every state.
How many chapters are there of Children's Health Defense?
Right now, I believe there are about 20 state chapters of children's health defense, and then we have many international chapters of children's health defense.
We have CHD Europe.
We have CHD Africa.
We have CHD Ireland.
We have CHD Australia.
And so we're rapidly expanding.
Our goal is to have a chapter of CHD in every one of the 50 states and be able to have a worldwide presence as well.
Well, outstanding.
I wish you the best in pursuing those goals.
And I thank God that you exist, Brian and Natalie and your organization and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
as well.
So thank you for sharing your time with us today.
It's been a pleasure.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for having us.
Absolutely.
It's great to have you both here, and we'll do it again sometime.
Thank you for your time and all your energy and what you're doing.
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