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June 2, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Liberty Counsel founder Mat Staver fights for Americans' right to say NO to vaccine...
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, the free speech video platform.
And of course, your freedoms are a very high priority to myself and also our special guest today.
His name is Matt Staver.
He's the founder of Liberty Council, which is founded LC.org.
is a group of attorneys who are fighting for your rights across a huge number of issues nationwide, filing briefs with the Supreme Court, fighting for patients' rights, health freedom, and so much more.
Just an extraordinary group that I've donated to, by the way, personally.
So, Matt Staver, welcome to the show.
It's an honor to have you on.
Thank you for all that you do.
Thank you.
It's good to be with you.
It's great to have you here.
And I'm going to bring up your website while we're talking, by the way, LC.org.
I encourage all our listeners to do so.
Tell us about the top two or three cases that you are arguing right now or you're working with victims or people to help support their liberties.
What's on your radar?
Well, just a few days ago, we filed a petition for review at the United States Supreme Court on behalf of Sandra Merritt.
Sandra Merritt is sued by Planned Parenthood Federation of America.
So it is Sandra Merritt versus Planned Parenthood Federation of America.
A judge in San Francisco ultimately awarded $2 million to Planned Parenthood and then about $14 million in attorney's fees and costs for a total of about $16 million If you go back in 2015, this is when Sandra and then David Daleiden as well, they began to do investigations.
They consulted attorneys and other experts.
They realized that what was going on in the abortion industry, particularly with Planned Parenthood and the organ procurement companies, was a tragedy.
It had been going on for some time.
They actually watched a video going back to 2010, a documentary by ABC 2020.
Connie Chung was the host and Others were there doing the investigation.
They did an undercover investigation of an abortion doctor near the Washington, D.C. area who had been aborting babies and then harvesting their baby body parts for sale.
So he was getting paid on the abortion side and then also getting paid for selling these baby body parts.
So the documentary, 2010, ends by saying this.
This is illegal and nobody's doing anything about it.
Sandra prayed and she got involved.
She wasn't an activist.
She decided to do research.
And she and David did undercover investigation with hidden cameras on their body, much like James O'Keefe has done with his undercover investigation.
Yes, we've covered this quite a lot.
I mean, this made a lot of waves because my memory of this, but you can correct me if I'm wrong, my memory is that there were Planned Parenthood practitioners admitting on camera to selling body parts in order to purchase things like luxury vehicles.
Is that...
Is that right?
That's right.
Dr.
Gadder, she said that she wanted to have higher prices for these organs because she wanted to buy a Lamborghini.
Wow.
Dr.
Nukatola admitted, and she was a medical director at the time with Planned Parenthood.
She also, I think, wore another hat with one of the organ procurement companies.
A number of them had two different hats, on the abortion side, on the organ procurement company side.
And so she said that she was changing the abortion procedure so that she would bring the baby out feet first so that it would be born breech and that its head would still be inside the mother, so it would still be technically considered an abortion.
And then she would crush below and crush above the thorax and then remove intact body parts because the more intact the body parts, the livers, the hearts, the kidneys, the lungs, etc., The higher the price that would be paid.
And of course, they didn't want to put poisons, if you will, into these babies because that would interfere with some of the research.
These facilities like universities were getting funding from Dr.
Fauci's National Institutes of Health to do research on these babies, aborted baby body parts.
They would then reach out to the organ procurement companies.
They would place an order And their order may be something along the lines of they wanted an intact heart, a gestation of six, seven, eight weeks, whatever it might be.
And that then would be given over to the abortion clinics and they would get an order for them about what they wanted to abort that day and the organs they wanted to harvest.
So as a result of these videos, They were shocking.
As you know, because you reported on this, they were definitely shocking.
And consequently, Congress investigated.
Congress actually recommended indictment charging against Planned Parenthood, but the Obama administration turned the other way.
Texas then began to investigate.
Texas and other states then defunded Planned Parenthood from receiving Medicaid funding because of this illegal activity.
And that was upheld by a court of appeals.
And then a prosecutor in Orange County, California, filed suit against some of these organ procurement companies.
And one of them was fined $7.8 million for illegal activity and had to go out of business because it couldn't handle the fine.
Others were able to handle the fine, so they're still in business.
So as a result, there was a lot of activity that really showed there was illegal action going on.
But now what happened is Planned Parenthood sued Sandra Merritt And the San Francisco judge literally said that there was no First Amendment defense.
No First Amendment defense.
It was absolutely unreal.
So this case now is before the United States Supreme Court.
We've asked the court to review it because if this is not overturned, then the First Amendment and investigative journalism is in the crosshairs.
You raise so many critical issues here, Matt, and thank you for explaining that so coherently, because sitting here, I'm getting a little bit emotional, steaming mad about the fact that the process that you described of how these living human children are, quote, aborted, in my view, in my mind, that is straight-up murder.
I know that's not the focus of your case.
It's not a criminal case.
However, It is astonishing to me that in this nation, in the United States of America, founded on Christian principles, that instead of the murderers in my view being prosecuted, then the legal system in California was weaponized in my view against the very whistleblowers who are trying to stop the violence against unborn children.
That's how I view it.
Well, that's right.
And in fact, if you go look at who's behind this, it first was Kamala Harris.
She was the Attorney General of California at the time.
And she sent agents to go raid David Daleiden's house so that they would confiscate any additional videos so that no more videos could be released to the public.
And then she became a U.S. Senator.
And then her position was taken by Xavier Becerra.
He became the Attorney General.
He then filed criminal charges against David and Sandra Merritt.
And those criminal charges are still ongoing.
We got a number of them dismissed, but there's still some that we will have to go to trial on later this year.
The Los Angeles Times editorial board.
Obviously, they're no bastion of conservatism, and they're not pro-life.
When that happened, they came out with an editorial blasting the Attorney General Xavier Becerra, who's now Joe Biden's Secretary of Health and Human Services, blasting him because the impact would be devastating for news gathering organizations and journalism.
No journalist in the history of California had ever been charged or had this kind of a lawsuit brought against them.
So you have a criminal action by the state of California still going on.
And then Planned Parenthood filed this civil action in San Francisco.
We asked the judge to recuse himself because it was shown that he had a relationship with a local Planned Parenthood where he was renting facilities to an abortion organization, Planned Parenthood.
He refused.
And then he hand-tied the jury and he rejected the First Amendment defense.
And he also allowed RICO to be used on this case, and that's for criminal enterprises.
It's absolutely absurd.
The implications of this case are quite stunning.
Even People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, PETA, filed a brief in our support at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals because they agree with us, obviously, on the issue, but because they understand the implications of this kind of ruling.
In fact, Other animal rights group in California had before this done undercover investigation, very similar to what Sandra did, revealing some awful tragic abuse of animals.
And as a result, when it became public, that abuse ceased.
So you can imagine all the things that James O'Keefe has done.
Well, right, and that's a critical point that I want to comment on.
But before, I want to take people to your website and encourage our viewers to engage with Liberty Council.
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things.
But my question to you, Matt, is that it seems like the courts have been weaponized.
The justice system is crumbling in the sense that it does not apply equal justice.
It depends on your politics.
And even, for example, when the Washington Post had an undercover journalist blowing the whistle on Nixon or any conservative in history, that was perfectly fine.
That was celebrated, won awards, Pulitzer Prizes, the whole deal.
But when a conservative person exposes what I consider to be coordinated mass murder and organ harvesting of human children, then that, oh, that never gets treated with a sense of fairness or justice or righteousness.
It Instead, it is crushed and the whistleblowers are punished.
So my question to you, sir, is...
How do we even navigate now this legal system when even the juries are so tainted and brainwashed that a jury in D.C. will convict any conservative on anything, regardless of the evidence?
Well, it's a long-term and a short-term process, and it's a multifaceted process.
Let me give you an example.
When we started Liberty Council in 1989, I was a pastor before becoming an attorney, and it was in 1983 that I watched a documentary called Assignment Life.
And that documentary was about abortion.
I did not know anything or much at all about abortion.
When I saw it, it was eye-opening.
It wasn't what the media had been telling.
It was a living human being that had been brutally ripped apart, even in these very early stages of life.
And so as a result of that, I became a lawyer.
And in 1989, we founded Liberty Council.
And the goal of Liberty Council, one of the goals, was to overturn Roe versus Wade.
That's 1989.
Well, in 2022, that happened.
Along the way, we had victories.
We had defeats.
We had ups and we had downs, but we never gave up.
And we had a multifocal approach.
Obviously, education, what you're doing, getting out the word, voting.
And challenging politicians, having the right laws, having the right people pass the laws, and then moving forward in the courts.
All of that coordinated together and all of that came to pass in 2022.
You go back, for example, to George W. Bush's term.
He promised that as president he would appoint people to the United States Supreme Court that had the judicial philosophy of Antonin Scalia and also Justice Clarence Thomas.
Well, he nominated Harriet Meyers instead, and we opposed him.
We took a lot of heat from people saying, you just need to trust the president.
And we said, well, we have to trust and verify, and she's not of the caliber that he nominated.
So two weeks later, it came out that she said her hero was Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
And of course, that tanked her candidacy.
So she withdrew.
Guess who was nominated?
Justice now, Samuel Alito.
And Samuel Alito, the very first week in office, the very first week in office, there was a vote.
And the vote was to take a partial birth abortion case.
This was 2007.
Now, the Supreme Court had already struck down a law in 2000 that banned partial birth abortion.
Now, because of Alito on the court, there was another vote and he voted to take the case.
Not only did he vote to take the case, but the case was argued in 2007.
And when it was voted on by the justices, by the time it got to him, since he's the senior or the junior justice, starts with the senior, goes down to the junior in terms of their votes.
He's the last person in the room.
His vote's either irrelevant by that time or it's the most important vote ever cast.
And on that day, it was the most important vote cast.
And so by the time it got to him, it was a four or four split.
He was the tiebreaker 5-4 and it upheld the law that bans partial birth abortion.
Completely flipped from 2000 to 2007 because of these multifocal actions.
Then, guess who writes the Dobbs decision in 2022?
Justice Samuel Alito.
And so, you know, it's a long process.
You never ever give up.
Yes, the system is not fair.
And yes, we have to continue to press forward and bring these arguments.
I believe if the Supreme Court takes our case, I believe we will win, just like we won the COVID shot mandates.
You know, we had judges in the lower courts that ruled against us, but we won 5-4 at the Supreme Court in 2020, December of 2020, and then 6-3 in February of 2021, striking down The shop mandates on places of worship.
So we have to just keep on pressing forward and never, ever give up.
And it's a multifocal approach, multifaceted.
And, you know, I think we're birthed here at this moment in history for such a time as this.
And it's not cliché.
It's really true.
Agreed.
So many things that challenge our faith and our values.
But we have such great opportunity to push back and make a difference.
And we just have to be faithful and continue to move forward.
I completely agree.
And sometimes when I personally, when I have questions like, what am I doing?
I wake up and I see the latest news in the world and it's satanic this and grooming that and pedophilia this.
And I say, you know, dear God, why am I here?
Why did you put me here in this, in the middle of this?
And, you know, the answer really is the same because you are asked, you are asked because you are capable to be part of this fight.
Yeah.
Well, let's look at Blake Treinen.
He is a pitcher for the Los Angeles Dodgers.
He was on the All-Star team in 2018, and he was part of the World Series Championship Dodgers in 2020.
So now he's with the Dodgers, and the Dodgers invites, and then they disinvite, and then they re-invite this blasphemous group called the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
Oh, the photos are horrific.
I'm sorry to interrupt.
It's like Satanism on display.
It is.
So he reached out to us.
We worked with him.
He issued a statement yesterday pushing back on that.
Yes.
And I think that that will encourage other people as well.
I think if you look at what Bud Light did, it's lost $27 billion in its stock value in just a few weeks.
It's gone down 19.98%, almost at that magic 20% mark, which is a bull market.
It's one of the lowest drops or biggest drops in the history of that organization, that company.
In Target, it's lost $13 billion as well.
I think what happens is the devil overplays.
And on this whole transgender issue, because we're working a lot with people on this issue as well, the puberty blockers, the cross-sex hormones, the mutilating surgeries, What you're seeing, not only in the United States, but globally, is a push back and saying, you know, this is insane.
States are passing laws banning this kind of mutilating procedure and puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.
And the general public is pushing back and saying, this is absurd.
This has gone too far.
I think the pendulum will swing back.
So we just have to, it's crazy.
It's just nonsensical when you look at The pronoun usage and the whole transgender issue, it becomes absurd.
You wonder if you're living in some surreal world.
But I think we just have to continue to be truthful and not give up and not be afraid of a battle.
Well, and you display that courage every single day, and we're so grateful that you are here.
You've been fighting this battle for quite some time, you and the other attorneys in your organization.
So again, to our viewers, LC, as in Liberty Council, LC.org is the website where you can go.
I encourage you to sign up for the newsletter there.
One thing I want to ask you, Matt, is because our world is so insane, as you just alluded to, you must be inundated with requests from people who are being subjected to the most outrageous decisions or mandates.
And I know you have a case about organ replacements being denied of people simply because of their religious beliefs to not take the mRNA experimental injections.
How on earth does your organization vet through all of the requests in this time when there is clearly there are so many violations of basic human dignity and human rights taking place?
How do you decide who you can help?
Well, we have that legal help form and that's really helpful to have people put down their information.
We contact those individuals by email.
By email and other ways as well to talk them through and figure out their specific case to find out if it falls within our area, which is religious freedom, sanctity of human life, and God's design for marriage and family.
And so we do it along those lines.
But then there's the volume.
And, you know, with regards to the last three years, the volume has been incredible.
For example, in addition to all of our other cases, right now we have about 75 cases.
And this is not the total number that we've had.
It's what we have right now, 75 cases involving organ transplants, where you have people that are on the organ transplant list and they've been removed from the organ transplant list because they don't want to get these experimental COVID shots.
And we've had situations where you've had family members that have the donor and the donee, they're related by family and they're a perfect match, We've had good friends that are a perfect match, the donor and the donee, and they tell them that both of them need to get the COVID shots in order to get this organ transplant.
We're talking about life and death.
I mean, we're really talking about every moment is life and death for these people.
So we are working with many, many people just in that area alone.
We have affiliate attorneys that we brought on board.
These are people in private practice to help expand our bandwidth.
Train them and they're helping us as well.
We've been able to get a lot of people.
In fact, we just got someone in the mid-20s just had a successful heart transplant because of our work with this individual.
We've had people that are moving forward with kidney transplants and every day that they don't get a kidney transplant, they're on dialysis.
It's kind of like an hourglass, they say, where their life expectancy gets less and less.
We've been able to get people to have a change of heart in some of these institutions, like Vanderbilt recently changed its position because we sent a demand letter and continue to press that issue.
We've had other situations where they didn't change, but we've now developed a network of hospitals and your state of Texas is one of them, where there's hospitals because Texas has been open and free.
And there's some facilities that don't require the COVID shot for organ transplants.
So some of these people literally have picked up and moved to different places like Texas or other places so that they can be near the facility and be on their organ transplant list.
That's how desperate they are.
That's just one area.
That's extraordinary.
And again, it comes down to what I would characterize as the weaponization of the medical system against those people who desire to maintain the purity of their own blood, as God intended.
Injections have transgenic effects which are experimental with unknown long-term consequences.
It is, in fact, rational, even without invoking a religious belief.
It is a rational scientific belief to say, I would rather wait and see.
In fact, I know you want to respond to that, but a quick question.
It seems to me, if logic were applied here, the transplant hospitals would say that we won't do transplants if you've been injected, because...
The spike protein does so much organ damage.
Why would you, quote, waste an organ on someone who's engaging in risky behavior that could damage that organ?
You're exactly right.
I mean, that is the most, you know, you said earlier on, you know, demonic or satanic.
And so there's things that defy logic.
That defies logic for them to just simply, with a brand new, even whether or not it's mRNA or not, a brand new drug or vaccine that hasn't had the testing that it normally should get.
Now you're forcing someone to get that particular injection.
Look, we've made these mistakes with anthrax.
We've made it with H1N1. You know, we've had people that have died because of those and have ongoing injuries because we said, you need to get it.
It's going to help you.
Everyone needs to have it.
Or those in the military must get it.
And we've had dreadful consequences.
And so logic would say exactly what you're saying.
Why would you force someone who is a candidate for an organ transplant to get this?
Especially in many cases, some of these have already had COVID, so they already have natural immunity.
Right.
But there is this real crazy agenda out there that is being undermined as we speak more and more day by day by the global research and information that's coming out that these are not safe nor are they effective.
We also had this explode in 2021.
When the mandates came out, it first began with the VA with their T38 health employees under Biden, and then the military in August 24, and then United Airlines, and then it spread from there.
And we had 35,000 to 40,000, you talk about the volume, of those legal help forms that you went to the website.
35,000 to 40,000 people signed those forms, gave us information, and we had to vet them.
Yes.
Some of those individuals were representing 200, 300 people in their place of employment.
Some of them were representing several thousand people in their place of employment.
So we're talking about lots and lots and lots of people that was just beyond our bandwidth.
So that's when we got our affiliate attorneys trained to help us.
But even then, you know, it's still a lot of work.
So we had to help employees, students who were told they couldn't go back to school, military, which we ended up getting multiple injunctions for the men and women in the military, and then shortly after that would be these organ transplants.
And before that, all of this started going back in early 2020 when the insanity was essential versus non-essential, and churches fell in the non-essential category, but abortion clinics fell in the essential category.
And that's when we had to litigate on behalf of churches all over the country and went to the Supreme Court, had two victories there at the U.S. Supreme Court.
Critical, because as I recall, at least in California, what the strip clubs were open, but the churches were closed, which perhaps is fitting for at least the extreme West Coast philosophy.
Right.
It's crazy.
It is crazy.
And I want to ask you about, do you have any cases involving the denial of treatment?
For example, ivermectin was disallowed to be prescribed to patients whom it could have greatly benefited, even hydroxychloroquine.
And for context here, remember how for two years the FDA attacked ivermectin, said no one should use it.
It's horse-paced.
And it was mocked everywhere.
And then, in the last few months, the FDA came out and said, oh, we never told doctors they couldn't prescribe ivermectin.
Do they think we have no memory?
They had a tweet, you remember that, about, come on, people, you know, stop taking the horse medicine.
Right.
That was from the FDA or CDC, but they both had the same position on ivermectin, a drug that won prizes for its antiviral characteristic.
That was shown to be very effective.
And in fact, you know, the FLCCC organization, the medical organization, they produce a very nice piece of information where they do real-time all of the research that comes out with regards to the various medications and nutraceuticals pertaining to COVID. And ivermectin is always up there very high.
As a good medicine for COVID. But yes, we have had cases like that.
We've had a number of situations.
We've had, for example, matters with respect to Denial of treatment.
We've had hospitals that refuse to allow people to get treatment.
We've had people that have left the hospital to go to another facility.
We've been able to work with a number of individuals.
There's a network of doctors and people that have been helpful.
We also had issues with the drugstores, you know, the pharmacies.
Pharmacies, yeah.
That was refusing from getting from prescribing some of these medicines.
And so you had to find other pharmacies that were able to do so.
And sometimes they did.
Sometimes they didn't.
So it was a moving target constantly.
But really, it was life and death.
Frankly, you know, we've had so many we've had people, for example, we had one person.
His wife was admitted to the hospital.
We had we had a let me tell you about this one.
There's an 80 mid 80 something year old woman.
She had just gotten ivermectin, but hadn't taken it.
Got COVID, went to the hospital, forgot to take it with her.
So she hadn't taken it with her.
A friend actually then brought it to her, took it out of the bottles and was able to get it to her.
I wasn't able to go in and visit.
She took it when she was in the hospital.
Three days later she's discharged and they're amazed at how quickly she recovered.
Well, it's because she took some medicine that the hospital wouldn't allow her to take.
The hospital wouldn't even allow her to take vitamin D or vitamin C. It's amazing the absurdity that we saw in this.
Well, that's a really outstanding example, and I've experienced that myself with family members literally having to smuggle vitamin D into the patient's room or other supplements, for example, that the patient wants.
But this indicates the level of complicity by the medical establishment that is frankly shocking even to many doctors.
I interviewed Dr. Pierre Corey a couple of days ago here, an allopath, classically trained, never could have imagined this five years ago, but now sees it every day.
But how do you explain that complicity where so many professionals in the field of medicine, nurses, doctors, pharmacists, and so on, just rapidly abandoned every standard from the American Medical Association or the Hippocratic Oath?
abandoned those standards, abandoned patient rights, patient compassion, and simply began to enforce whatever was simply...
You know, verbally demanded by the government itself.
I think there's several different responses to that.
Number one, I think, and I received this from talking to doctors, the doctors are not taught to have critical thinking in medical school.
They're just taught to just do whatever they're told to do.
And so when they get out, they just do what they're told to do and they don't have critical questioning.
That's number one.
Number two, big pharma has really captivated the entire field of medicine and it exerts an enormous control internationally and on all the medical fields.
A third aspect is what you've seen happen in various places around the country, everywhere, frankly.
Hospitals are becoming the central conglomerate.
They're buying up the diagnostic studies.
They're doing their own diagnostic studies.
They refer within their own group.
They buy out private practitioners.
A lot of private practitioners got out of private practice during Obamacare.
They were tired of some of the paperwork that they had to do, so they become employees of the hospital.
Then, what happened during COVID? The federal government told the hospitals, for each patient that has COVID, we'll give you X amount of money, but you have to treat them this way.
No ivermectin, no hydroxychloroquine, remdesivir, vents, all that.
And so if a doctor wanted to prescribe ivermectin to someone, but now they're an employee of the hospital, they don't have any independent authority.
They're told they can't because it's being pushed by an administrator because of a monetary situation where the hospital can get more money if they follow the federal government's protocol.
We need a total reformation of the medical system because unless we have a total reformation, it's not going to get any better.
It's going to get a lot worse.
Well, this brings up a really critical point.
I'm glad you mentioned that because this is probably not the last pandemic that we're going to deal with.
And in fact, that has been promised by We're good to go.
The precedent wasn't set, right, about closing churches and so on or medical choice or saying no to the vaccines.
But with the next pandemic, we must have case law on the books and ideally Supreme Court decisions that say, yes, a soldier can say no or a civilian can say no or a church can stay open no matter what, even if it's Ebola.
If a church wants to stay open, isn't that their free choice?
Yeah, especially, you know, when they say, well, but, you know, the big box centers, they're essential.
And so the big box centers, they were jammed like it's Christmas, you know, month after month.
Like it's, you know, the week before Christmas and everybody's out there shopping.
And the abortion facilities, they're open.
So they picked and chose which ones were the preferred ones and which ones were not.
And we could see how these governments, state and federal, Thought of churches.
They thought of them as non-essential.
You know, the church has been essential for 2,000 years.
And I think one of the things that we need to have precedent, no question about it.
I think we have more precedent now that's on our side than we had before, because we didn't have...
This was uncharted territory, if you will.
We had never seen anything quite like this in our history anyway.
But the other thing is...
People need to really be better grounded, because even people that are Christians, people within our faith community, they bought the pandemic propaganda from the CDC and the FDA and the big pharma, and they just didn't do critical thinking.
Moreover, they were willing, so many people were willing to trade their freedom We're good to go.
But we're going to have to take away a little bit of your freedom.
Just go along with us and you'll be okay.
It's amazing how quickly people were compliant and they fell in line.
And so I hope that from this we've learned a lesson collectively not to ever allow this to happen again.
Well, I think clearly many Americans have learned that lesson, but the tyrants have not, right?
The tyrants have only learned that they need to press harder.
And in fact, one of my last questions for you here is concerning forced quarantines, because we know that quarantine centers are still under construction in states like Washington and that various state laws have either been attempted, like in New York, or are on the books in places like Washington State that claim the or are on the books in places like Washington State that claim the right to essentially have state government health people, whoever they may be, show up and force you out of your home or apartment and force you to go to whatever they designate as a quarantine camp
show up and force you out of your home or apartment and force you to go to whatever they designate as a quarantine camp in essentially any invoked emergency, even an invisible one that you can't see or detect.
That seems like a gross violation of basic civil rights.
Yeah, I think you're right.
And I think one of the things that was shocking to everyone, certainly to me, Some of the laws that are on the books, both federal and state, and some of those have been changed as a result, but many of them are still the same way.
So, for example, in Florida, where I live.
You understand that you would have an emergency and you would have a curfew if you had a massive hurricane hit, say, South Florida, as an example, or any place in Florida, and the power lines are down.
You understand that there's going to be some curfew.
There's going to be a little restriction in your movement.
There's going to be some regulation so people don't gouge on gas prices and so forth and so on.
But you understand that that's a temporary emergency.
So those laws were written to give enormous powers to the state leaders to impose these temporary emergencies.
Those same laws were used for COVID, but instead of temporary, it went on month after month after month after month.
Those have to be changed.
And what we also need to recognize is that this is happening on a global scale.
You know, the World Health Organization just finished its World Health Assembly.
They have 307 amendments plus a pandemic treaty.
They're coming back in May of 2024 with the intent of passing all of that in one fell swoop.
Joe Biden is the biggest impetus to push this forward.
He's got an ambassador that's moving forward to bring in other nations, the Xavier Becerra.
We mentioned him earlier.
He was just in Geneva about a week ago, promising $1.75 billion that he would pay.
I don't know where he's going to get it to these nations that think, well, if we sign on to this and we give up our freedom, And sovereignty then goes not to us, but to the World Health Organization in Geneva.
They have the ability to lock down, control medical treatment, control imports and exports, quarantine and so forth.
Then we'll have a Mayo type clinic on the corner of every village.
And that's essentially the lie that they're being sold by the WHO and the Biden administration, and they're willing to sign on to this.
So that is a very serious threat to freedom.
For those that, you know, we don't have time to go into it, but for to understand just a little bit of this, it moves the World Health Organization from an advisory group, which you could just take it or leave it, to a globally legally binding entity so that when it says lockdown, you better lockdown. to a globally legally binding entity so that when it Otherwise, you're going to be facing their sanctions and wrath.
So that's a real serious threat to our freedom.
That's being pushed forward by Big Pharma, by Bill Gates, and many others.
There's going to be a huge legal fight in that area, and I'm glad you mentioned it, because we've had other experts on, including Dr.
Francis Boyle, for example, who have parsed the WHO's global health treaty documents.
And you're right, Matt, that the WHO would assert the right to impose quarantines, movement restrictions, mandatory vaccines, masks, lockdowns, and social distancing on even local counties, local hospitals, local churches. and social distancing on even local counties, local hospitals, local
Even though the WHO, of course, consists of globalist bureaucrats who were never elected by the American people nor who are subject to the United States Constitution or any sworn oath of office, by the way.
So this is the usurping of domestic local power by what I would consider to be a nefarious globalist organization that has been proven to be steeped in medical fraud and is a puppet of the pharmaceutical industry.
That's my opinion, but what do you think?
Well, I think exactly the same way, and I would add China in there as well.
China is a big influencer.
Bill Gates gave $1.2 billion to the WHO in one year.
So he is one of the top seven world funders of the WHO. He's a eugenist who believes in population control.
He believes that climate change would be the greatest threat to the survival of humanity.
He wants to reduce Carbon emissions down to zero by at least the year 2050.
To do that, you reduce population.
And to do that, you have mass vaccination.
That's a point one of his four point plan.
So he is making money off of the pharmaceutical industry.
He's making money off these forced vaccines, and he is one of the biggest influences of the WHO. So if you want Bill Gates to dictate your everyday life, you know, just don't do anything.
But if you care about freedom, which I know people watching your program do, we need to make sure that our members of Congress wake up The U.S. House can and should investigate.
They should bring all these 307 amendments out on the public and the pandemic treaty.
They should bring Biden's ambassador and put them under oath and other people as well.
They also should zero them out of the next budget so that there is no funding for the WHO. Agreed.
And that's something that the House can do by itself.
They don't need Senate approval for that.
Matt Staver, it's an honor, sir, to have you on.
This has been a fascinating discussion, I hope one of many, and I just want to congratulate you for the victories that you've already had and many more yet to come.
Thank you so much for joining me today.
Thank you.
It's been my pleasure.
Absolutely.
I'm humbled to have you on.
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