Bill Holter and Mike Adams talk gold, guns, security dogs and navigating the apocalypse
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Alright, welcome to today's Brighteon.com interview.
I'm Mike Adams and today joining me in studio is the great Bill Holter from BillHolter.com and he's a fellow Texan.
Welcome back to studio, Bill.
It's great to have you here.
Thanks for having me.
You've been doing amazing work.
I think your analysis is spot on.
With the bank failures that are accelerating, you've been proven correct again and again and again.
Right now, as you and I are recording this, it looks like three or four more banks may be going down.
Give us your synopsis, if you would, please, of where you think things stand right now today.
There's been talk.
I mean, you see Kramer, you see the talking heads saying, It's over.
The panic is over?
Right, the worst is behind us.
And I'm going to tell you, this is jacks for openers.
This is the beginning, the dominoes are starting to fall.
And it's funny, just in the last couple of months, my thought process has been, and I know you went through the same thing, for years and years we talked about where this was going to go.
And you took major crap from people left and right, you got trolled, you were called an idiot, you know, tinfoil hat, and you had to explain and back up with analysis, logic, you know, reality, math.
As to why we were going to get to where we are now.
Right.
But it was theoretical until recently.
Right.
And at this point, now people have to prove us incorrect.
Exactly.
I mean, that's where we are now.
So, and I just want our viewers to know, you're also a gold and silver retailer.
Right.
And can they find out about that at BillHolter.com?
Yeah, you can go to my website.
There's contact there, or I'll give my email address later.
Okay.
But they're on my business through Miles Franklin.
Through Miles Franklin, exactly.
Yeah, we know all the Miles Franklin folks, and, you know, it's interesting.
You no doubt experienced the same surge right after the Silicon Valley Bank that the whole industry got hit.
Can you describe what that was like to have the phone non-stop ringing, people wanting to put millions in the gold?
I actually had taken off on Thursday, the day before all this happened.
You're kidding me.
No, I took off.
I was going to take a five-day break down at the beach and Thursday night, Friday morning, all of a sudden my phone started blowing up.
And I mean, it blew up to the point where I'm talking to people with my phone on a charger because I had no charge left.
I mean, I had never experienced anything.
I mean, you know, there were some big bumps along the way, but I've never experienced a bump like this where people were just panicked to the point of They didn't even care what form of gold or what form of silver.
They wanted their money out of the bank that day.
They wanted, you know, send me wire instructions, I want the metal, I want it now, and I want my money out of my account today.
That's fear.
A recent survey showed that I think maybe close to 60% of the American people do not trust their money in the banks now.
I think the number was 48.
Oh, was it 48?
Okay, yeah.
Okay, maybe it's 48.
Yeah.
But close to half then.
Right.
That's astonishing because, you know, six months ago that number would have been 5% or something.
Or less.
Or less.
So something dramatically has changed in people's minds about faith in the system or lack of faith.
It's the fact that some banks have already gone down.
And I think it's also because...
The public has been fed so much bullshit that makes no sense whatsoever.
Right.
That even slow people understand now that they have been lied to.
So it's, you know, it's not, you can't put your finger on one particular thing, but so many people know that there's something not right.
They might not know exactly what it is, but they know something's not right.
And when it comes to your bank, you know, you You've got to have confidence.
And that's what the whole system is based on, is confidence.
And it's cracking.
Yeah, it's cracking in a huge way, but the number of exit routes out of banks, the exit to off-ramp from a bank and get into gold and silver, that's a very narrow doorway that only a very small number of people can actually fit through.
Talk to us about the supply and just the infrastructure of gold and silver retail.
I mean, it can only serve a small percentage of the American people.
Right.
There's actually two exits, and one exit leads to a brick wall in the end anyway.
The one exit, the first one I'll talk about, and I've told this to CEOs of companies that say, you know, I've got all this working capital in a bank.
None of it's insured over $250,000.
What do I do?
I want to buy some gold.
I want to buy some silver.
And that's the right thought process.
But for a company, you've got to have access to the cash.
Right.
So, I mean, if you put it into gold or you put it into silver, it's kind of clunky.
Right.
There's some friction in going back into cash.
Right.
It's not easy back and forth.
So my suggestion has been do treasuries direct with the U.S. Treasury.
Don't do treasuries through your broker because those treasuries are on your broker's balance sheet.
They're not in your name, actually.
They're in the broker's name.
So if your broker goes down, you're going to be tied up for, who knows, two years, three years, five years.
Who knows?
So you're talking about TreasuryDirect.gov.
Right.
Direct through the Treasury.
And that's still a little clunky.
You know, it could take a couple days to move money back and forth.
Yeah.
And isn't the shortest term they offer is 30 days, isn't it?
Right.
And we can talk about that too.
Now there's a big spread between 30 days and 60 and 90 days.
And there's never been a spread before.
Boy, that tells you something.
Yeah, there's a spread now because everybody's piling into 30 days.
Yes.
And that's dropped the yield.
I mean, the spread, I think, last I saw was over 1%.
It was like 1.1 or 1.2%.
Wow.
You had this spread that makes no sense at all because it's only 30 days.
Right.
But what companies are doing is they're rolling...
30-day paper that don't want to go out more than the 30 days.
Well, right.
And the decision in the minds of the people doing that is, at this point, you know, it's more about not losing money.
They just want to get their investment back.
They almost don't care about the yield, right, at that point.
Yeah, yield is meaningless.
It's being done for safety and safety only.
Yes.
They do not want to lose their working capital.
Now, it is a game of musical chairs.
Can the music stop in the 30 days?
Well, of course it can, and the value of the dollar could plummet, and all of a sudden, you know, your business model that worked fine now is upside down, and every widget that you sell, you lose money on.
Right.
Because of, you know, because of the currency change.
The other exit, as you mentioned, is gold and silver.
And it is a very small door.
And we found that out when I did that trade.
And I know Andy did another big trade afterwards.
$50 million basically cleaned up every single Silver Eagle, every single bag of junk, every half dollar, and every silver dollar in the United States.
I mean, we went to all the dealers.
That was one buyer.
That was one buyer.
And that was all U.S. Mint coins?
Yeah, it was all U.S. Mint coins, exactly.
27 million cleaned up all the silver.
Wow.
And we crippled the pre-33 gold market with 23 million.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I mean, literally for four to six weeks after that, it was impossible to find 50 or 100 coins.
I'm still wondering where that person stored all that silver because that's a pretty bulky amount.
You need a big room and a couple of, you need a big underground bunker for that.
I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you.
Yeah, you need like a commercial elevator in that bunker.
That's a lot of silver, but it's a great investment.
Well, yeah, it's a lot of silver, but it's not a lot of money.
Yeah, I hear you.
It's a ham sandwich.
It's nothing.
Compared to what's floating around.
You're talking about a small amount of millions when billions are tossed around on a daily basis.
Yes.
And I mean, the word trillions are now thrown around.
Well, I can't believe that more wealthy people aren't just buying up every last ounce of silver and gold right now.
That's coming very, very soon, I think.
Yeah.
Okay, so let's talk about what's coming.
And again, let me just remind people, your website's billhalter.com, and I don't know what all you have on there, but I assume other interviews and videos and things.
Yeah, it's very similar to JS Mindset.
Okay, okay.
It's based on the same idea.
Okay, awesome, great.
You and I, I think, both believe that this isn't just a cycle we're going through.
It's not going back to normal.
This is the end of the system as we've known it.
Can you speak to where you think this is going to end up?
And I know timing is difficult.
I'm not asking you for date predictions or anything, but where does this end?
The currency collapse?
The fiat currency goes down, what do we end up with?
Estates declaring their own state currency just to not collapse?
How does this work?
Over the years, I've written, done interviews, and talked about where ultimately I thought this was going to end up, and pretty much it's narrowing down and narrowing down, and we're there.
You could use the word civil war now.
The country will break up.
And when I say break up, you have internal strife.
Yes.
And that's a very real possibility now.
If you said it five years ago, you're a crazy person.
But you can see it now because they've taken this pie and they've divided it between right and left.
They've divided it between straight and gay.
They've divided it between Christian and non-Christian.
They've divided it...
Male and female, the different genders.
They've divided the country in so many different ways now that when the financial system breaks, and it will break based on the loss of confidence, but when the financial system breaks, You very easily could see a period of time, two weeks, two months, God forbid, six months of a period of literally Mad Max.
You dial 911 and nobody answers the phone.
And I've talked about when credit goes down.
Credit is based on confidence.
When credit goes down, guess what?
Your lights don't work.
Your water's not clean.
There's no food in the stores.
Stores aren't open.
There's no gas at gas stations.
Nothing runs.
The real economy stops when credit stops.
And so does the financial economy.
When credit gets choked to a certain point and confidence breaks, then you have Bank A won't do business with Bank B, who won't do business with Bank C, who won't do business with Bank A, because each one is afraid of who their counterpart is.
The other counterparties are.
So it's all about trust and when trust breaks down, then you have the whole edifice comes down because a hundred years ago, the system was based on or foundationed upon gold and silver.
That was the bedrock and dollar bills were a derivative of gold, right?
Today, The foundation itself is basically the US dollar slash US treasuries.
That's the foundation.
So what you have is you have this huge edifice of debt piled on top of the foundation of debt.
Yes.
So when the confidence breaks, the whole thing collapses and the foundation collapses into the ground.
It seems like, too, the fractional reserve structure of the system is incompatible with modern society where people have their apps and they can move money in seconds.
Because back, let's say, in the 1980s, you had to go to the bank and stand in line.
There was friction of getting out, and they could just close the doors.
Well, we've had bank runs, and we have long, long, long food lines.
You just don't see them because of technology.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But right now, today, we saw how rapid the collapse was of Silicon Valley Bank because word spread.
Right.
People are connected, and there's social media, Twitter, and whatever, and then people have their apps, and it's so simple to just move it all out, put it all into treasuries, for example.
Right.
At the pusher of a couple buttons.
Exactly.
So the fractional reserve system is almost built to fail.
It cannot withstand even really the slightest lack of faith in the system when people want their money.
Ultimately, when you're saying it was built to fail, that brings my mind back to 1913.
Creatures of Jekyll Island and all that.
Creatures of Jekyll Island, exactly.
The system was Built to fail.
The system was built to become a debt slave to the owners of the Federal Reserve, which we know is not federal, nor a reserve.
It's owned by, what, 13 families or whatever.
And that is a great book.
If people have not read The Creature from Jekyll Island, I would highly recommend reading that.
That's a great, great book.
Yeah, I think a lot of our audience Are familiar with that and they've tracked all that.
And I think one of the questions then is, you know, with Powell just raising interest rates another 25 basis points.
Yeah.
But do you think, I mean, are you offering a prediction?
Are they going to hold?
Is he going to raise it another 25?
Or what do you think is coming from the Fed?
If the system doesn't break in 30 to 60 days, they'll raise it again.
That's what they're doing.
Really?
I think this is a plan to crush the system.
It's working.
Well, yeah.
Just look at what they did.
They got the West and the United States, which is the reserve currency.
They got the United States over indebted from a federal level, from a corporate level, and from an individual level.
And then what do you do?
You raise rates.
So that the debt can't be rolled over and financed.
You put a choke point on new credit.
And how do you kill a Ponzi scheme?
You stop the new money coming in.
So, I mean, the system has been a Ponzi scheme for years.
And by choking off credit and increasing the cost of credit, now you've shut off the new money coming in.
It implodes upon itself.
I mean, I wrote this, I first started writing in 2007 after I left the country, and in 2007 I wrote that the policies that they were putting in place, and this was leading up to 2008-2009, the policies that they were putting in place were too stupid They were just plain too stupid.
It had to be planned.
Right.
And I mean, that's where we are now.
Right, right.
There's no way somebody would do this by accident.
It's that crazy.
Not even possible.
And also, too, I want to remind our audience that you walk your talk.
You are preparing for the type of collapse that you're describing, and so am I. In fact, I want to thank you, Bill, because...
Last time you were here, can we talk about your dog publicly?
Sure.
Last time you were here, you showed me your dog, beautiful, beautiful dog, your security dog.
Since then, it's people like you and a couple other guys that really inspired me.
I went and trained with a couple different security dogs.
I ended up getting one and he's actually outside right now because your dog is here.
Right.
My second dog.
Your second dog.
And, see, you and I both understand the need for security, given what's coming.
And, you know, I don't even have to guess.
Of course you're armed, and you've probably noticed some of the hardware I have here.
But, you know, we're not violent people.
We want to de-escalate violence, but sometimes when the zombie horde is crazy, I mean, we have to defend ourselves and our families and our property.
Yeah, I mean, I'm your typical...
I'm not going to say conservative, I'm a libertarian.
I want to live my life, leave me alone, and I'm not going to bother you.
And I mean, I came to the realization, I had a very good friend of mine who bought two dogs at one time and told me when he paid for them in my first Response was, you're a complete idiot.
At first.
Right.
And then you realize.
And I talked over the next week or two weeks, I talked to four or five people that I respect their opinions.
And every single one of them said, well, if you could afford to do it, why wouldn't you do it?
And the more I'm thinking about it...
Yeah.
At my place, if I go down, the whole place goes down.
So who's got my back?
And I'm not like I'm 30, 40 years old anymore.
I'm 60 years old.
So you've got to have something watching your back.
And there's nothing more loyal than a dog.
And if you get a dog and the right type of dog that can walk the walk, then It's like walking around with a loaded gun.
I'm so stunned of having my experience with my dog, Rhodey, who I'll introduce you to later, but I'm just astonished at their athleticism, speed.
And they hear everything, they see everything.
Like, your dog is actually watching you and us and checking out the mood, right?
And I'm not going to raise my voice with you today, Bill, because I love to have all my limbs.
And, you know, but the dogs are tuned in.
It's amazing.
Yeah, they're...
They're truly amazing animals.
They really are.
My point in even bringing that up was that you're not just somebody who goes online and talks about stuff, but then it's not an artificial facade.
You live what you teach.
I have a plan, and I've tried to put the plan in place.
Is it a foolproof plan?
Of course not.
Have I forgotten some things?
Of course I have.
I tell people all the time, when this goes down, You're going to be pissed at yourself because you forgot this, you forgot that.
All you can do is the best you can do.
With the means that you have.
Just do the best that you can do.
And don't beat yourself up because you will, without a doubt, have forgotten several things.
Right, right.
What would you say to the people out there right now?
Maybe not so many people watching this, but there are, outside of alt media, there are a lot of oblivious people who are still in a state of denial.
They have no preparedness plans whatsoever.
They believe in the system that is failing them.
What would I tell them?
Don't come to my place.
Yeah, okay.
Good answer.
But they're going to, right?
I mean, they're going to be seeking, they're going to be hordes of unprepared people.
Yeah, this is going to sound really crass.
I think I said this something five or six years ago.
I took major shit after the interview.
Oh, yeah.
But I really believe it will get to the point, and like I said, maybe two weeks, two months, God forbid six months, but I do believe it will get to the point where you'll need a human head, skull, on a stick.
At the entrance to your property.
I see.
Like predator style.
You understand what a purple fence post is here.
Yes, yes.
A lot of people don't even know what that is.
Oh, there's a no trespassing.
But everybody knows what a human head is on a stake.
That's true.
That's true.
I apologize, but...
No, why would anybody criticize that?
I mean, you're talking about a specific scenario, a Mad Max collapse scenario.
And frankly, there'd be a lot of skulls around at that point, you know?
I mean, it's not going to be hard to find one if you just want to put it on a stick.
So, I mean, seriously...
But I have a hard time dealing with people who are living in this bubble, artificial reality, where they said all along, well, banks won't collapse.
You're just fear-mongering.
And then the banks start collapsing.
And then they say, well, the big banks won't collapse.
It's just the small banks.
And then it's more banks collapse.
They just keep making excuses until the day that they lose everything.
You know?
That's, without a doubt, so many people are going to be blindsided.
Yeah.
But I made a couple phone calls last night to buddies of mine, and we've talked about this.
And lo and behold, yesterday, I didn't get one, I didn't get two, I got a third email from three separate trolls, and probably trolls for seven, eight, ten years, telling me what an idiot I am, apologizing to me that I was right.
Oh!
Believe that or not.
Whoa.
All in one day.
So you got apologies from former trolls?
Yeah.
And what did they say in the apology?
Like, oh, the banks are collapsing?
You were right all along.
Whoa.
I should have listened to you.
Wow.
Which, I mean, it blew me away.
I mean, I don't expect to ever get apologies.
I mean, most people never apologize.
Yeah, I was shocked, but that was the case.
Wow.
Okay, so maybe some percentage of people are realizing what's going on.
I mean, obviously, more people are looking at gold now.
We're talking about mainstream buyers who previously wouldn't have looked at gold and silver.
Yeah, and some mainstream people with wealth that will never have looked at it before.
That's interesting.
One of the things you asked me about, the demand, one of the things I've noticed at the Is that not so much the amount of customers, although we did have, you know, after SVP, I mean, it was crazy.
But just in the last 12 months, the size of the orders have doubled, tripled, quadrupled.
Wow.
The orders are much, much bigger now than they were, say, three years ago.
Alright, so let's talk to the people who are aware of what's going on.
Probably most of our viewers have already purchased some amount of gold and silver.
They probably have some means of self-defense.
Most of them are, you know, away from the big cities.
What should they be thinking about right now in terms of what's coming?
Because everybody's got money in the bank.
Everybody's got probably a pension or a social security check or something.
What do the informed people need to be aware of?
I would say for someone who is truly informed, just try to fine point your plan.
Try to Try to shoot your plan down.
Try to find out where the flaws are.
One way to do that is go home on a Friday, turn the electricity off, turn your water off, and live the weekend with no conveniences.
See what goes wrong.
Right, exactly.
See what buss and fix it.
Excellent.
We had that, for example, we had the freeze...
January of 2021.
Right.
Yeah.
That freeze I found out where the choke points were and I fixed those and we had a double 12 degree, 12 degree night this year back in what was it January or late December.
We went through it fine because everything was fixed but think about it.
Had two years ago not happened and the system goes down and We got a freeze and everything blew up.
How are you going to fix it?
Yeah.
Well, exactly.
And the same thing is true in financial plumbing.
And let's talk about freezes because it seems like, you know, after the Silicon Valley bank collapse, there was a lot of talk among regulators and even in the Treasury of saying, well, the bank runs are the fault of the customers.
That they took their money out and therefore we may have to limit that.
Right?
So do you think that withdrawal limits are coming or there would be bail-ins or bank freezes along the way here?
I would think there will be bail-ins, there will be freezes, there will be withdrawal limits.
I would not count anything out.
I mean, if anybody said, well, this could happen, I would never say, no, that's not possible.
Right.
Because anything at this point, anything is possible.
Just think about, you woke up this morning and whatever news was out there today.
If you told somebody today's top five headlines, even five years ago, they would laugh at you and call you a complete idiot.
For sure.
Time for you to go to the mental institution.
Yeah.
I mean, so what's become, I don't want to say commonplace, but what is accepted as Normal today would have been idiocracy five or ten years ago.
And now the mental institution has been emptied and it's the Biden administration now running the country.
I mean, a bunch of...
Well, you know, let's spend just a couple minutes on that.
You saw the new Navy's ad, right?
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah, the drag queen.
What would you feel like if you were in the Navy?
Yeah, I would be extremely pissed off.
And there's a lot of Navy SEALs I know who are extremely pissed off right now.
There's a guy from SEAL Team 6.
Yeah.
Did eight years with SEAL Team 6.
Uh-huh.
Went ballistic and went public with it.
And, I mean, think about this.
We're spending more on our military than the rest of the world put together.
That's right.
And at this point, we're going to send a bunch of fags.
I'm sorry, you know.
Send a hate mail.
You need to give out your email address for the proper hate mail.
No, I will.
I'll do that.
Okay, okay.
No, but what are we going to send?
A bunch of fags in skirts to go fight the Chinese?
Queer tank crews.
Yeah, exactly.
Right, with the battery-powered tanks that the energy secretary demands that all the military vehicles have to run on batteries.
Because there's going to be a charging station wherever they need.
Yes, there'll be a charging station in the middle of Ukraine that the Russians will leave alone.
It's going to be fine.
Just recharge your tank.
It only takes 47 days.
I mean, these people are insane.
Again, again, these plans are too stupid to be a mistake.
I agree with you.
There's no way, there's not a possibility that these programs, these policies are a mistake.
It is the purposeful takedown of the U.S., M1 Abrams EV. Yeah.
World War III ends in three minutes because that's how much lithium is in that thing.
It is.
It's completely insane, but yet it's real also.
I mean, we have to deal with the repercussions of this here.
We have to deal with cities here in Texas.
We've got cities filled with oblivious liberals, Austin, Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston, El Paso even, San Antonio to some extent.
In every city, there are oblivious people who are going to become panicked zombie mobs at some point.
It would not surprise me at some point if major metropolitan areas don't get ring-fenced.
Oh, really?
Just a thought.
Wow.
By what, the state guard?
To not let people out.
Yeah.
Well, I can definitely see smaller towns just blocking highways.
To keep people out.
To keep people out.
Exactly.
Plus, we can take some of those heads on the sticks and put them on the bridges, you know?
And just like little warning signs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, we laugh about this, but it's actually beginning to happen.
You know, it's not...
As far as Austin's concerned, I haven't been there, but I understand they have cleaned it up.
There's no more homeless camps in Austin.
Is that right?
Last time I was there was a tent city.
Yeah, I've been to Austin, North Austin, twice, three times in the last three years.
Uh-huh.
Three and a half years.
Right.
Yeah, I stay out of that place, too.
Yeah, I was accosted by it.
Oh, really?
Yeah, demanded a cigarette from me.
Because I'm white and I'm rich.
How did he know that?
I mean...
And you owe me a cigarette.
That was the last time I was there.
A tranny that wanted to smoke a fag.
Yeah, exactly.
That's got to be Austin.
Keep Austin weird.
Okay.
But they have cleaned up under the bridges, from what I understand.
Okay, interesting.
I didn't know that.
But there are going to be people living there again.
I mean, let's talk about real estate because the commercial real estate market now with the Fed raising rates and people not going back to work, more remote work.
And also, you know, 70 plus corporations, you saw the news, bankrupt this year.
Massive bankruptcies across the board.
IBM saying we're not going to hire humans for positions that can be taken over by AI. I mean, aren't all the underpasses in every city in America going to be basically inhabited by the new homeless?
I would think so, yeah.
And you're talking about real estate.
Who made those loans?
The banks.
Yeah.
So, I mean, the real estate loans, the commercial real estate loans are going to destroy the balance sheets of banks.
Yes.
And it's funny, just in the last probably two weeks or three weeks, I've had maybe a dozen different people ask me about, well, what about farmland?
What about buying land?
Well, yeah, I think it's a good idea if you're going to farm it.
But understand, you're way overpaying for it because the prices of all real estate, whether it be a house, whether it be commercial, raw land, whatever, the prices have elevated double, triple from what they were back in 2007, 2008.
And why is that?
Because of credit.
And once credit dries up, who are you going to sell it to?
And the credit contraction is now underway.
It's already started.
It's accelerating.
It's already started.
And isn't it true that, I mean, $1 to $2 trillion, I forgot the number, of commercial real estate loans that are probably going to go bad over the next couple of years?
I think there's $600 or $700 billion that have to be rolled over, refinanced, between now and 2025 or the end of 2025.
Okay.
But the point being, you're looking at much higher interest rates now.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And lower occupancy.
Lower occupancy, so look at the appraisals.
Exactly.
You're not going to be able to roll them over because nobody's going to lend on a building that's 60% occupied when originally the loan was done when it was 92% occupied.
Well said, yes.
And there's no prospective future where these buildings are suddenly reoccupied by thriving corporations because, I mean, look at consumer purchasing behaviors falling off a cliff right now.
You've got even microchip pumps.
Look at San Francisco.
I mean, the place is imploding.
Yes.
You can't even shop in San Francisco.
First, you're going to get beat up or killed or whatever trying to shop, and now the stores are closing left and right.
Right.
All those buildings have debt on that.
Yeah, exactly.
But along those lines, though, Bill, we've also seen so many retailers now evacuating Cities like Seattle and Portland and San Francisco and so on.
And they're evacuating.
Often they were just leasing those buildings, right?
Somebody owes something somewhere.
Exactly.
The landlord is holding a building now that's useless because the retailer left it because all the sidewalks around that building are filled with addicts and prostitutes and violent criminals.
And their employees can't even come to work without getting accosted by somebody.
So these inner cities are just going to be economically gutted And by the way, shoplifting is already legal now in most of these cities.
Up to $1,000.
Right.
And where's it going to go when...
That's the credit limit.
Yeah, right.
But what about when the currency collapses?
It's just going to be total mass gutting of anything on any shelf in any of these cities.
Well, here's my biggest concern.
When the currency collapses, when...
Credit ceases when the system implodes and comes to a halt.
This is no longer 1930.
In 1930, everybody knew who their neighbors were within two, three, five miles.
Everybody knew everybody.
People were morally better.
Society was morally better.
You helped people in need.
If you were in need, people would help you.
Today, If you're in need and you've fallen down on a sidewalk, you're probably going to end up with no shoes, your wallet's going to be gone, your chain's going to be taken off of you, you're going to be stripped clean by a bunch of vultures.
That's what concerns me, is that the morality today is the absolute reverse of what it was in 1930 when we went through the last depression.
Well, that's a really good point.
And, you know, if you fall down on the sidewalk in San Francisco, they'll steal your stuff and probably poop on your forehead, too, before you leave, because it's like San Francisco.
See, that's another reason I have a dog.
Yeah, yeah.
That way nobody craps on your head.
Yeah, exactly.
Or they can attempt it, but they will be missing an ass cheek.
Or two.
But again, you and I, we have thought through these scenarios for so many years that these are not new thoughts to us.
And that's what freaks a lot of people out is they hear this for the first time and they go, why are you so negative?
You know, we've all...
I've never heard that before.
And the other day, I was interviewing somebody who said, yeah, his friend watches my show, but he gave me the nickname, not Health Ranger, but Death Ranger, because I talked about how many people were going to die.
And I'm like, well, you know what?
People are dying.
They're dying right now, and there's a lot more death coming.
I'm not saying we're all going to die.
I'm saying if you want to not die, then you need to take these steps.
I mean, this is about survival, is it not, ultimately?
Yeah, and when you're bringing up people are going to die.
People are dying already.
Exactly.
There was a story today of a 12-year-old girl in Arizona.
Oh, I saw that.
Had a heart attack.
She did live.
And immediately the newspaper, it just happened.
So within 6 hours or 12 hours, the newspaper says, oh, but she had a congenital condition.
Really?
Right.
How did they discover that in 12-0?
Yeah, no, it's always the same covers.
I had over 10 million YouTube views taken down from various sites, because when the vaccine originally came out, I said, I'm not a doctor, but I do have some common sense.
And the one thing I will say, if you take the vaccine, you are the guinea pig.
Absolutely.
So what's wrong with that?
And YouTube blew that to pieces.
Of course they did.
Greg Hunter had his taken down.
I mean, I was his second strike.
But I mean, there were channels taken down, millions and millions of views of pretty good stuff, of pretty real, you know, real huge stuff.
No, I know.
From your own site.
Yes, but we were taken down pretty early.
See, you went on with Greg Hunter, and they gave his channel a strike.
It's like, sometimes if I go on somebody's channel, then they get a strike because they had me.
Yeah, because it's me.
It's like, they should call me the Strike Ranger, because I will give your channel a strike.
But that's what they do.
They try to get everybody to not talk to you.
Which is why I'm glad to have you here, by the way.
Well, and...
Yeah, that's another topic.
Censorship.
Yeah!
Which I haven't...
I mean, that's why I built Brighton.
So we can have this conversation.
We can talk about heads on skulls, man.
Exactly.
I mean, skulls on sticks.
Excuse me.
We can talk about forehead turds in San Francisco.
Whatever we want!
There are no limits to what we can talk about.
Good thing we're not drinking beer.
That would make it even more entertaining, I think.
It's like, you know, five rounds with Bill Holter.
Yeah.
And his dog.
No, but that's really...
The censorship that's going on is...
It's like so, so, so dangerous.
Yeah.
I've...
I don't know where it's going to lead, but it's not a good place.
No, it's not a good place.
I do see a lot of pushback, by the way, happening legally.
Right.
And we're doing some research, and some of our attorneys are doing some research.
But, man, when DHS and the White House tell Big Tech who to blacklist, and they enforce that, it is blatantly unconstitutional, illegal, violation of civil rights.
And they're doing it.
Well, yeah, it's not only blatant, but it then makes obvious, if you pull back the curtain, it then makes obvious that they're not on your side.
For sure!
And when I say on your side, I'm talking about the people who use common sense, who have, you know, legit morals, who are Christians.
I mean, if you're a Christian, you're a domestic terrorist, piss on you.
That's what the FBI thinks.
If you're a Christian, you're a terrorist.
They want to infiltrate the Catholic churches.
Okay, another question for you, Bill.
All of the censorship and then the false narratives that are catapulted out there by the establishment, It seems to me they are designed, even Janet Yellen saying, everything's fine, and Jamie Dimon, it's all fine.
Yeah, because you're vacuuming up all the banks.
But isn't it all designed to just keep people oblivious as long as possible so they don't know...
Until they pull the plug.
Exactly.
To that very last moment, and then they're screwed.
Right, and they pull the plug, and everyone's shocked.
Right.
Right.
No, absolutely.
I mean, it's been propaganda the entire path.
You might get a lot more apologies coming your way on that day.
If the phone system works, who knows?
I was going to say, probably not.
Yeah.
The trolls won't even be able to email you on that day and apologize because probably the whole system will crater.
I'm truly, truly not looking forward to...
No, I'm not either.
...that coming, but this is math.
Yeah.
Well, it's common sense logic, but mostly math.
Financially, the system is a Ponzi scheme.
All Ponzi schemes eventually fail, and they fail once new money no longer comes in.
And that's what they're doing.
That's what they're showing you that they're doing.
It's going to fail.
So this is no longer Mike Adams or Bill Holter's opinion.
You know, 12 years ago in 2009, Or even before, 2007, you know, I was telling people 2008, 2009, I didn't know the timing of it, but I said, it's coming.
And they told me I was nuts, but it was my opinion at that point because things just didn't look right.
This is no longer my opinion.
This is pure math that the system is untenable.
And then you look at, you look at geopolitically, Russia understands More than you and I do.
China understands more than you and I do.
They understand that the United States has been living or using a never-pay model for 60, 70 years.
Globally.
Globally.
In other words, they send us products and we send them pieces of paper, dollars.
What an incredible deal.
Yeah, it's a great deal.
It costs us nothing.
Our standard of living is many multiples what it should be.
That's what people don't understand.
Right.
That's why I tell people things like, you should go buy clothespins.
Right.
Right now because they're pennies.
One day, they're going to be dollars.
Because they're available.
Because they're available, and we have these global supply chains that are still partially functioning right now.
And you think about the little things you need, even like first aid bandages, right?
You can get bandages for pennies.
That's not going to last.
Or even, let's say, an oil filter for your tractor.
Right now, oil filter, 15 bucks.
Try to get it three years from now.
You might not be able to get one that even fits.
Yeah, exactly.
Here's something.
We live in Texas.
I have several air conditioning units on my property.
I went out and I bought enough parts to completely rebuild two of those AC units.
That's smart.
I have two water wells.
I have enough parts to completely rebuild one of the two water wells.
The pump?
The whole pump?
The pump?
Yeah.
The pump that...
The piping and everything.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's really smart.
I'm the same way.
Well, when I did it, I'm thinking to myself, I don't care what it costs because at least I can get it.
Right.
At some point in time, I'm not going to be able to get it.
And then three months later, and actually the air conditioning parts took me...
Three months, four months to get.
But I had already paid for them, had already locked the price in.
And the guy said to me three or four months later, when I got the parts, he goes, man, you made a great decision.
He goes, these things are already 40%.
Everything costs 40% more.
Right.
I'm just saying this to your audience.
Go through the things that you might need in the next year or two years.
How about a car battery if your battery goes dead?
Absolutely.
How about four tires?
Right.
How about, like you said, band-aids or, you know, a very good...
First aid kit.
Yeah, skin staplers, man.
Exactly.
Super glue.
Exactly.
After I told you...
That stuff works, man.
Yeah, my dog got cut.
I had to stitch him.
Folks, it was an innocent accident.
He ran into a stick.
Unfortunately, it didn't have a skull on it at the time.
Superglued.
In fact, 3M sells a superglue product for dogs.
It's called like vet something.
It's just superglue to put skin together.
I played hockey.
We used it on our faces.
Exactly.
I superglued my eyebrow together.
It works.
Yeah.
Yeah, when you don't have, but I also bought skin staplers.
Yeah, see, clearly it worked.
But you're exactly right.
I mean, all these things are dirt cheap and they're very available right now.
And then if people are putting away some gold and silver at the same time, the purchasing power of that gold and silver, in the worst case, will preserve itself.
But more likely, it's going to purchase more down the road.
More likely...
If you have gold and silver in the next system, and I'm not talking about the CBDC, the first reset, the second reset.
I don't know.
Two years from now, five years from now, I don't know how long it's going to take to get to the next system.
But if you own gold and silver, you will be a bank.
What do you mean?
Remember, we talked about 100 years ago, gold...
Was the foundation and dollars were issued off the gold.
Yeah.
Think about yourself and it's obviously you don't want people to know you have gold or silver.
Right.
But you will have capital where everyone else is not going to have capital.
So a banking system has got to be funded by something, right?
Right.
So are you saying that you could...
You will become a major shareholder of your local bank.
Got it.
Because your local bank is funded with gold or so.
And they will demand, I mean, they will need gold and silver to back up whatever currency is being issued at the time.
And, okay, we're both in Texas.
Well, maybe the state of Texas, right, they have the depository.
Maybe one day you drive, you know, I don't know, a truckload of silver to the depository.
You deposit that and they give you Texas bucks credits that are, you know, millions of dollars worth of Texas bucks because they need the silver.
And now the Texas bucks you can use in the Texas economy.
That makes sense.
I mean, states had better be thinking about this.
Well, there are states, you know, that are making, there's quite a few states that are making gold and silver legal data.
Right, like Wyoming, I know, has done that.
And has Tennessee done that?
I think it's in their Congress.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
I think there's 19 states altogether.
That's amazing.
That either have done it or are in the works currently.
Does your dog ever go on camera?
Does she?
Yeah, you can...
Would she be cool?
You want to bring her up here?
Yeah.
Yeah, good girl.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Well, that's great.
My audience is going to love this.
Yeah, you shouldn't show the slipping around part.
No, that's okay.
I mean, this is kind of slick, yeah.
But, hi girl, this is awesome.
Yeah.
Oh, she got the microphone going.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Come on.
Okay.
Good, you did it.
Yeah, I can't wait for you to meet my dog, too.
Yeah, see, this is a dog-friendly studio, folks.
We are all set up.
So, if any of you out there, if you mess with Bill...
Huh?
Yeah, it is.
It's definitely slick.
Yeah.
So, if you mess with Bill, that's what you're going to get to...
That's going to be all over you instead of on the desk.
Yeah.
And if you thought surviving San Francisco was bad, try hand-to-hand combat with one of these dogs.
What breed is she again?
She's a Dutch Shepherd.
Wow.
Man, it's just so impressive.
She's so alert.
She's still a baby.
She's only 16 months old.
That's amazing.
So you're still training her every week or what do you do?
I take her with my horse every day.
Okay, that's great.
Do you do bite work with her then?
You have somebody come out with a suit?
Yeah, we have.
She bit through a Kevlar suit.
Broke the skin.
Guy said it had been three or four years since he had skin broken through a suit.
Wow.
Wow.
That's some serious jaw power.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, and you have extra water for her in your car, I assume.
Okay.
She might get thirsty after all this stuff.
Okay, great.
Yeah, I have the dog mattress there.
I've got a kennel back there if we ever need it.
I've got water bowls and such.
Dog-friendly studio.
Probably the first one.
First one I've been to.
There you go.
See?
Dog-friendly studio.
Also gold and silver friendly, and plenty of firearms.
This is the right place for you, Bill.
But look, I don't mean to get too tangential here, but I do like to have a little fun with you.
But getting back to the core issue here, and also respecting your time, how do we need to kind of encapsulate our conversation today?
What's the most important takeaway?
Most important takeaway would be trust your gut.
When I say trust your gut, you either know something's not right.
You either know something's not quite right and you don't know exactly what it is.
Or you know what it is.
You know something's not right.
Trust your gut and do the best you can as fast as you can to come up to speed and to have a workable plan.
Yeah.
So by trust your gut, does that also mean don't trust the authorities?
I mean, they're lying to us all the time.
Maybe that's my default, but trust your gut even in the face of All the social pressure to conform?
Well, it's pretty easy to decipher.
To this point, it's been very easy to decipher what's true and what's not true based on who's telling you.
Yeah, true, right.
I mean, if mainstream media is telling you the same thing that government's telling you, you know it's bullshit.
It's a lie, yeah.
Now, this is, and I've just started saying this on writing and interviews in the last month or so, We're coming into a dangerous time because of AI. Oh, yeah.
You're not going to be able to trust your own eyes.
You're going to see stuff on the TV that is complete fabrication.
Yes.
That's going to ratchet up the difficulty in figuring out what's real and what's not real, what's true and what's not true.
But the governments and the tech giants will of course exploit that.
I think they already have in some cases.
To continue to create this artificial reality and try to get you to buy into it.
Correct.
Fake accounts, fake newscasters.
By the way, do these newscasters realize they're already obsolete?
Because this is going to be a CGI avatar reading the scripted CIA. Well, they already were.
How many videos have you seen where they have 53 different news announcers that say exactly the same thing?
Yeah, but they were still human at that point.
They actually collected a paycheck, but now they're not going to be human.
They won't even be needed by the system.
They'll just be generated avatars.
And social media, you know, it could be 98% CIA controlled AI voices telling you how great it is to groom children or whatever.
The futuristic movies that we saw when we were younger, they've arrived.
Yeah, right.
Unfortunately.
They have.
They've arrived and it's, you know, it's satanic.
It's bad s**t.
It's bad.
It's just, it's evil.
I completely agree with you.
Okay, a couple of things.
Let's give out your website one more time.
BillHalter.com is the site, and you promised to give an email where trolls can reach you.
Yeah, if you want to reach my business email, it's bholter at hotmail.com.
Oh, Hotmail's still around?
Is it?
Does Microsoft own that now?
I think Microsoft.
Microsoft.
They bought that.
Okay, Hotmail.
I just had it for 12 years or whatever.
Right.
I use that for business only.
Okay, great.
So bholter at hotmail.com.
Yeah.
Okay, and then you also, can you help people acquire gold and silver if they're interested in that?
Yeah, and you can reach me either through my website or through the email addresses.
Okay, and about that, what should they know about purchasing gold and silver?
I mean, right now it's kind of a lull, I think, compared to what's probably coming, but also prices have spiked up recently.
But the outlandish premiums on silver have just started to turn and shrink a little bit just over the last week.
The outlandish ones from last, like all the way from last year that were crazy?
No, from the SVP. Oh, okay, from the recent...
I mean, if you look at, you know, some of the big online dealers like Abmex or Estee, Bouillon, or even Kitco.
Kitco was selling Silver Eagles for $50.
Really?
That's 100% premium.
Oh my!
Yeah, that's a $20 plus premium.
And a fair price now is like $41, $42.
That still seems high.
What's the premium on that right now?
$16.17 over spot.
Wow!
That's crazy.
But what I'm saying is that's softening $0.50 a dollar.
It softened a little bit in the last week.
Man, because I was buying silver not that long ago, like $3.50 over spot.
I can remember the day when we were buying junk silver at spot.
$0.50 over spot.
We were buying Eagles for $2.75 or $3 over spot.
Wow.
And, you know, Maples would have been $2 or $2.25.
I mean, you can't buy a $100 bar now for less than $3.50 over spot.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
Do you recommend, for some people, are bars a decent option?
I know it's much more difficult to work with.
Well, you can't use them.
Right.
The only reason you would buy a 100-ounce bar or a kilo bar or something like that would be to purchase it today and you're looking to swap it later for gold or swap it for whatever currency comes out.
It's not usable.
There's no...
The most functional silver there is is junk silver.
Yes.
Which is, what, pre-1964?
1964 and earlier.
Oh, okay, okay.
Got it.
And that is roughly, what, about 90% silver content?
It's exactly 90% silver content.
Okay.
But I heard that most of the junk silver was gone from the supply chain.
I mean, it's hard to find.
It's more difficult to find.
And that's why it is the canary in the coal mine.
I mean, when that dries up completely, and we've gone, since SBB, call it, what, eight weeks?
We've probably had junk available not even a quarter of the time.
Maybe 15 days.
Okay.
We've had junk available.
I mean, we want a span of three weeks where we had no junk whatsoever.
Wow.
Okay, that's wild.
So that is the canary in the coal mine because there's no production.
The only availability is when an estate sells or somebody sells their silver.
Okay.
All right.
Well, Bill, I can't thank you enough for coming in and spending time with us.
It's been a lot of fun, and I think people are learning a lot.
So the website, folks, is BillHolter.com, and I want to thank you, Bill, for coming in and taking the time.
You have a lot of knowledge, and you have been correct again and again, and I think it's going to play out in much the way that you've described here, so I appreciate you.
My pleasure.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
And thank all of you for watching.
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