US imperialism is destroying (and exploiting) Haiti, warns filmmaker and journalist Kim Ives
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Welcome to the Health Ranger Report here on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And today we're going to be joined by a first-time guest, a really special guest, a filmmaker, an author, and a journalist.
He's the primary editor of the website called Haiti Liberté, which we'll show you in a little bit.
And he's got a relatively new film that's really critical for the world to see.
It's called Another Vision.
It investigates the truth behind the revolution in Haiti and really what's going on in Haiti, kind of the bigger picture.
And we're joined by this extraordinary filmmaker right now, Mr.
Kim Ives, joins us to talk about this film and U.S. policy toward Haiti and other countries.
Mr.
Ives, thank you for joining me today.
It's an honor to have you on.
Thank you, Mike.
I'm glad to be here.
Well, it's great to have you here, and our audience is going to love what you have to offer.
So how about this?
Let's start with a little bit of background of you and the Haiti Liberté website, and then we'll get into the film.
Well, I'm an American by birth, but I grew up in the Haitian community.
My mom married a Haitian revolutionary back in the And I grew up sort of with the struggle against Papa Doc.
That was Francois Papa Doc Duvalier and his son Baby Doc Duvalier, who were two dictators from 19...
57 until 1986 and so after I graduated school they more or less hooked me into the fight there and I've been doing films and writing as a journalist covering Haiti really for the past 48 years.
Wow, that's extraordinary and Well, first, tell us about Haiti Liberté.
We'll show the website, and then I have some questions for you.
But give us kind of an overview of what people can see on that site, if you would, please.
Well, Haiti Liberté is the largest Haitian weekly.
It comes out every Wednesday.
We're in production right now.
I'm under deadline right now, but I said I have to break for...
For Mike Adams, you know, there's no doubt about that.
So we are a weekly newspaper which provides a lot of analysis and news, of course, about Haiti and the Caribbean, as well as the world.
It's mostly in French, but I am the English language editor, so I do the So, what's the number one thing that you think the American people need to know about Haiti right now?
Well, right now that the U.S. is trying to invade Haiti once again for the third time in three decades, the first intervention, well, I should step back a minute.
Basically, after this devalued dictatorship, which ended in 1986, The Haitian people elected their own leader.
It was a genuine, very good election in 1990, and it brought to power a former parish priest named Jean-Bertrand Aristide, who was a nationalist, and the U.S. didn't cotton to that very much, and they quickly organized, with the Haitian ruling class, a coup d'etat in September 30th, 1991.
And there ensued three years of massacres and carnage.
And it was ended by an intervention under Bill Clinton of 20,000 U.S. troops.
And there ensued three months of U.S. military occupation with France and Canada.
And then that was handed off to the U.N., which basically continued the occupation until 2000.
Around that time, Aristide was re-elected to power.
And again, the Bush White House now, the George W. Bush White House, organized another coup.
This one was a little harder and took a little more time.
But they drove him out on February 29th, 2004, and followed it immediately with another UN military occupation.
Which lasted 15 years.
And the result is that Haiti has become very debilitated.
It's really had its whole governmental structure crushed under these occupations.
So there are a couple of themes here, real quick, if you don't mind me interjecting.
One theme, I know that For example, recalling some of Trump's comments about Haiti and the typical view of Haiti from the American people is that Haiti is almost a collapsed, disorganized country.
But what you're bringing to us here is that that is actually the effect of years of imperialist intervention and military intervention, the disruptions from outside.
Is that a fair statement?
That's exactly it.
Yes, Haiti has been crushed under the boot of U.S. imperialism for this past 30 years, at the very least.
And before that, you have to think one of the first imperial expeditions of the U.S. was in 1915, again, into Haiti, where they stayed until 1934.
19 years U.S. Marines ran Haiti.
So, Haiti is really the other pole of this hemisphere.
It is a country founded by slaves.
It was the first and last successful slave revolution in history.
And they've always been the other pole of this hemisphere, where the U.S., the richest country in the hemisphere in the world, was founded by slave owners, precisely to prevent slavery from being stopped.
So, really, they've had a very unfriendly relationship through most of their history.
Wait, wait, wait.
I just want to be clear about what you just said.
You said it was founded by slave owners to prevent slavery from being stopped.
That's correct.
Because Haiti was really a harbinger.
It was the beginning of the end of chattel slavery.
Never.
It was inconceivable in 1804.
The revolution took 13 years, from 1791 to 1804.
And essentially what happened, you had the French Revolution in 1789, and In Haiti, both the slaves and the mulatto class, what was called the Afragi, the freedmen, who were often the children of slave owners and their slave mothers, so called mulatto, which is a pejorative term, should not really be used.
But the affranchis and the slaves both took to heart the slogans of the French Revolution, which were liberté, égalité, fraternité, liberty, equality, and fraternity.
And the slaves, of course, wanted liberty.
But the offspring, the freemen, as they were called, the Afranchi, wanted equality.
Because even though they were born of French fathers, they weren't allowed to be, and they were in a French colony, they were not allowed to be true Frenchmen.
They were not allowed all the rights of a French citizen.
So when the revolution came, they said, you know, what the hell is this?
And this set off the richest colony of The Western Hemisphere, Haiti, what was then Saint-Omang, was much richer.
It was the pearl of the Antilles.
It had more output than all 13 English colonies on North America combined.
Now, was this trade or was it domestic production?
And I guess the corollary question is, what does the United States see in Haiti that is worth all the effort to occupy and control this country, this region?
Well, it was trade.
It was part of the triangular trade of the colonial period.
That is, the boats would leave Marseille, they would go to the coast of Africa, trade guns for slaves, take the slaves to Haiti, most prominently, drop them off, pick up sugar and rum, and take that up to Marseille again, and then pick up more guns.
And the triangle would continue like that.
So, today, Haiti has huge geopolitical importance in that it's right in the middle of the Caribbean.
You know, there's that string of islands that goes across.
Cuba, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic, which share the island of Hispaniola, so named by Columbus.
Its original name in Arawak Indian language was Haiti, meaning mountainous country.
And then, of course, Puerto Rico.
So it's a big problem for the U.S. if Haiti were to have a revolution and become another Cuba or something.
So they are very anxious to make sure that doesn't happen.
Plus, it is said to have the second largest revolution.
Deposits of Iridium, which is very important in the manufacturing of our digital devices these days.
Wow, that's an unexpected element to hear about.
And yeah, Iridium, you know, the U.S. is heavily dependent on rare earths out of China.
And that's a strategic, you know, critical infrastructure component for electronics and satellite components and military equipment as well.
So that's really intriguing.
But probably the most important element, or one of the most important elements, I should also mention there's said to be $20 billion worth of gold dust in the Haitian mountains.
I mean, it'd be very bad and hard to get it out because basically they have to blow off the mountaintops.
chunks and then sluice them with cyanide and you'd kill your water table and the whole thing.
You know, you would basically destroy the country.
So that's one.
So there's the gold.
But the biggest thing is Haitians work for five bucks a day in these assembly factories.
And as the war with China approaches, the U.S. is looking for places where it can go manufacture its iPhones and, you know, make its underwear.
And places like Haiti are going to be very key for them.
Wow, that's really interesting.
Is there a migration of labor-based production right now to Haiti from Mexico or from China?
Well, there has been.
You know, the way these things work is they just are basically big hangers, and these manufacturers basically hop from country to country.
They can pull up in a day and move to Costa Rica or Honduras or Haiti, you know, depending where the...
Revolution is happening at the time.
You know, right now, they're avoiding Haiti a bit because it is so unstable.
But there are a lot of people working in the assembly factories in Port-au-Prince.
There's one in the north put in place by the Clintons called Caracol and another one on the border with the Dominican Republic.
Well, what you're pointing out here, I think it's really critical.
I want to emphasize this for the audience.
It's not just that the labor is relatively cheap.
It's also the proximity of the labor to the markets and to the raw materials that are turned into value-added products.
So Haiti's geographic location...
And access to sea lanes is critical to its combination with low labor costs.
That combination is increasingly rare around the world right now.
Your comments?
Yeah, totally.
Yeah, Haiti sits on the Windward Passage.
That's the channel between Cuba and Haiti.
It's the only direct route from the eastern seaboard to the Panama Canal.
And, you know, the fact is...
The labor in Haiti at five bucks a day is essential.
This is why we can go and buy a shirt at Walmart for two bucks, you know, because the people get paid pennies.
So, you know, Haiti, the labor is the only thing that comes from and stays in Haiti.
You know, they just bring in all the pieces, it's assembled, and out they go.
Well, pardon my ignorance, but what currency does Haiti use domestically?
It uses a thing called the gourd, a currency called the gourd.
And the gourd used to be, when I started covering Haiti back in the 80s, it was five gourds to a dollar.
It was fixed.
But after 86, after Jean-Claude Duvalier left, it started to go up and up.
Today, the gourd is at 100 plus to the dollar.
So it has lost value compared to the dollar substantially.
Yeah, 20 times.
20 times.
Yeah, 20 times.
It has gone from being worth 20 cents to being worth a penny.
Wow.
So, of course, that supports a strong export market out of Haiti because dollars are very valuable to bring in in exchange for that.
But I would imagine the people of Haiti are living in extreme poverty conditions for the most part.
Well, that's always the catchphrase afterward, the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere.
But as the great Uruguayan writer Eduardo Galeano says, it's South America's very wealth that creates its poverty.
And Haiti is a very wealthy country, you know, in terms of resources.
I mean, the Haitian people are extraordinarily resilient.
I mean, when this country, as this country starts to crumble and we start to see all the madness that ensues, we have to look to Haiti to see here are people who have lived very close to the ground.
And if you have no electricity and no plumbing all of a sudden and no functioning anything, but you can still get by, you can still survive.
And the Haitians, in many ways, may end up being a model for us in the not too distant future.
You know, I completely agree with you.
I lived in Ecuador for two years and built a food forest there and really got to learn about the resilience of the locals.
And you don't have a reliable power grid.
You don't have reliable supplies.
It's a long way to get to town.
And that road may be washed out from heavy rains, right?
I mean, it's just on and on and on.
You can't get the parts.
And guess what?
It's not a crisis.
It's everyday living.
You learn to make do.
And I learned so many things from Ecuadorian people about resilience that I still use today in Texas.
But I look around at fellow Americans, not my close family or friends, but just the general population, and they're weak, they're apathetic, they're unresourceful, they're hyper-privileged.
They don't know what it's like to live in the real world because it's been so artificial in this country for so long.
Have you seen the same thing?
Yeah.
Totally, yeah.
They go nuts if they don't have Wi-Fi.
Oh, my God.
Go home, go to bed.
So it's a crazy situation how fragile, as you say, we are.
And yet, here we go about the world trying to impose our vision.
Well, I mean, we're not trying to impose it.
We're basically trying to sell our things.
In Haiti, it was exporting food 30 years ago, 40 years ago.
But now it has to import almost everything, rice, the rice valley.
Yeah.
See, that's surprising to me.
I'm glad you brought that up, but you would think because of the climate in Haiti, you know, aside from the occasional heavy tropical storms that wipe out crops, but for the most part, it would be very amenable to food production there locally, wouldn't it?
Well, it is, but it's been crushed.
I mean, it's...
You know, the market, which has come and stomped on Haiti, and that is, I mean, I take rice as an example.
The Artibonide Valley in the center of the country used to be the rice basket, and they exported rice.
This has been removed by, began with Clinton dumping Arkansas farmer rice on Haiti.
You know, of course, These farmers with a combine a mile wide, you know, they can produce rice much more cheaply than some guy with a hoe.
So, you know, this is the irony.
You know, nations began basically as markets which were protected.
You know, in England, with the emergence of the bourgeoisie there, if you were caught with a shirt of French manufacturer, you know what the penalty was?
Cut off your arm.
Is that right?
But now they don't, you know, have that or they don't believe in that.
They say free trade, free trade.
And, you know, so countries like Haiti can't protect themselves.
Yeah, free trade is the bludgeon of coercion that's used.
And I think there was a movie a few years ago, I think, about Walmart.
And I think it was called The High Cost of Low Price.
And that seems to be kind of what you're describing here.
There's a human cost.
There's a cultural cost to getting the lowest price at any cost.
And we're seeing it play out in Haiti.
Let's go to your film, by the way.
It's called Another Vision.
I'm going to play the trailer while you kind of describe.
But go ahead.
Tell us about this film.
Well, I don't want to talk over the trailer.
There's no sound in the trailer.
I'm just playing the video.
Oh, okay.
Just the video.
Well, what this is telling the story of is this destruction, which we've just described, which has driven millions of peasants off the land, where they were farmers, growing food, etc., and they end up in the cities.
And so you take the city of Port-au-Prince, the capital of the country, which used to have a population, when I did my first film there back in the early 80s, of 500,000.
Today, the city is a country of 3 million people.
And so this leaves hundreds of thousands of people who have no No employment, or at least no permanent employment.
They survive by hawking bottles of sugar water or chiclets or, you know, a broken radio, whatever they can.
And this has created great criminality, of course.
A lot of people end up just turning to crime to try to make ends meet and survive and keep their neighborhood fed.
And these criminal gangs have seen a response, much like the Old West in the United States, of what are called vigilance brigades.
And this guy that you see speaking here, Jimmy Cherizier, his nickname is Barbecue, is the leader of the Federation of the Vigilance Brigades, called the G9. And they're trying to stop the crime,
but what they came to realize was that the crime is Produced and supported and maintained by the Haitian bourgeoisie, which is just the hand at the end of the arm of US imperialism.
And so he was a stellar cop.
He was, you know, just a very charismatic, very articulate guy who was hung out to dry when an operation went bad in 2017.
And he'd already started to realize the cops were there to enforce this system.
But when they bit him, they bit the wrong person.
And he said, OK, that's it.
And he basically got together all the like-minded neighborhoods in the city and said, we have to stop this and we have to make a revolution in this country.
So this is the story of that revolution.
Wow.
And your film follows him in particular?
It does, yeah.
He's really the spokesman, in many ways, the spiritual leader of this movement.
He's right now, I spoke to him at length last night, They're engaged in a very bitter battle.
Essentially, what's happened is his coalition, which is called the G9, is an anti-crime coalition.
They say no to kidnapping, no to rape, no to...
You know, thieving or extortion of small merchants, which these criminal gangs do.
The other gangs are just interested in money.
You know, they're just, you know, and they, you know, sometimes have the jewelry and whatever.
They have one of them as a, one of the gang leaders who does a lot of kidnapping has his own YouTube channel where he makes money.
You know, sort of gangster videos.
You're kidding me.
Yeah, I'm not kidding you.
Yeah, his name is Izo.
You can go look for it.
Put Izo Haiti in YouTube and you'll find some of his videos.
Sure, but you know, I'm banned from YouTube.
I can't be on YouTube.
Really?
Well, yeah, I know YouTube is gangsters themselves.
Yeah, they are their own gang.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, so the story is that essentially the criminal gangs have confederated themselves into another gang, a confederation called The JPEP. PEP is people in Creole.
So the JPEP was formed the day after the G9 formed.
And so right now, Jimmy Cherizier is being attacked by the JPEP, and he's trying to defend his neighborhood.
It's basically three areas in the downtown Port-au-Prince against this assault from two neighboring neighborhoods.
And we believe here at Haiti Liberté that this is really programmed or, as they say in Creole, teleguide, that it's being done by remote control by agents of Washington who want to see this military intervention in Haiti.
Because Haiti is, one, facing this revolution from the base, and this would be a big loss for Washington.
But furthermore, Haiti is the only country in the Western, not in the Western Hemisphere, one of the 12 countries left in the world who recognized Taiwan as a sovereign country, not a part of China.
And so, in many ways, as we can see, the U.S. is planning a war on China, and in many ways, Haiti's one of the few countries of over A million people, because a lot of the countries that recognize Taiwan are these little micro states like St.
Lucia or Tuvalu or, you know, whatever.
So Haiti is one that they can point to and say, well, it's recognized by Haiti and Paraguay and Honduras, you know.
Well, see, that's interesting to me.
My wife and her family are all from Taiwan, and I lived in Taiwan, too, for a couple of years.
I actually speak some fair amount of Mandarin.
Do you speak Creole?
Yes, I do.
That's awesome.
That's really amazing.
How about French?
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, I learned French in school, and I learned Creole when I was sort of drafted into the trenches.
Okay, and there's a lot of similarity.
Creole borrows heavily from French, correct?
Yeah, correct.
Okay, that's great.
It borrows heavily, but it is a totally different language.
It's more like English, you know, the object comes after the verb and so forth.
Well, yeah, I speak Mandarin at a conversational level, but then there's Taiwanese, which is the local dialect that is kind of derived from Mandarin, but I don't follow it at all.
It is its own, as you say, it's its own totally separate language, different semantic structure as well.
That's interesting that Haiti continues to recognize Taiwan.
I'm sure China has tried to come in and buy off Haiti because that's what China does with every country around the world and try to get them to switch their recognition away from Taiwan.
Well, yes, they have.
They've offered $5 billion basically to Haiti.
They say, listen, we'll overhaul Port-au-Prince.
We'll put in...
You know, sanitation and electricity and roads and schools and you name it.
But the Taiwanese are also very much in the ring and have gone and developed personal relationships with most of the Haitian leaders.
Yes.
But in any case, as far as the U.S. ruling class is concerned, they are very anxious to keep Haiti, and they devised bipartisan, it was passed under Trump, a thing called the Global Fragility Act.
I don't know if this has come across your radar, Mike, but this act is really the U.S. response to the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative.
Okay.
And essentially what they're doing is they're I'm trying to send in US soldiers with USAID sacks of grain on their shoulder, a gift of the American people.
So it's kind of a combination of the US humanitarian aid structure, USAID, which is a branch of the State Department, And the Defense Department, the Pentagon, send in the troops.
And they basically sign a contract with a country for 10 years to base their troops, to turn the country into a military base.
So that's what they want to do in Haiti.
They basically want to put US troops in Haiti.
But they need to get a government in place that can do the inviting.
So there is no elected, there's not one elected official in Haiti right now.
From mayor up to president, there's nobody.
There's just a guy who the U.S. has anointed as being the leader, a prime minister called Ariel Henry.
So they are trying to intervene in the country to stop Cherise, to stop this revolution, and to stop China.
Wow, what a convoluted situation, but I can say, you know, that, first of all, I don't trust the U.S. State Department, and you look at the history of U.S. imperialism around the world, and they often will carry out a coup, will carry out an assassination, you know, they'll take over a country in order to pillage it, right, and exploit its resources.
Well, they've done it twice to Haiti.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
In the past 30 years, yeah.
And they've done this in the Middle East, and they've been involved in Somalia, and some would argue that this is what NATO's trying to do to Russia even right now, right?
I mean, the U.S. is all over the world, not saying, hey, we want to support you being your own sovereign nation and your own people, your own culture, your own language and borders.
Rather, we will install a puppet president, and then you will serve us.
You will be a slave to the U.S. State Department interests.
That's the attitude that's projected, it seems.
That's totally it.
And they did it already in the Dominican Republic, which shares the island, in 1965.
They sent in U.S. troops under the flag of the OAS, the Organization of American States.
But they don't have the votes now.
They're trying to get it through the U.N. And I addressed the U.N. Security Council on December 21st.
People can see that on the Haiti Liberté site.
I was invited to explain to them the situation that their representative of the Secretary General, a woman called Helen Lalim, who is a career State Department official, had been basically lying to them for months and months on end, saying, oh, Haiti is a catastrophe and we have to intervene to save the people, blah, blah, blah.
And I got in and I told them, I said, you're being told half-truths, you're being told lies, basically.
Yes.
And that's blocked in the U.N. They're blocked in the OAS. So now they're trying to cobble together kind of a coalition of the willing, as they say, in, you know, get some countries in the Caribbean.
Right now they have Jamaica, Bahamas and Trinidad, Tobago, who are more or less agreed to front for a U.S. and slash Canadian alliance.
This is why it's critical to speak to individuals like yourself, filmmakers, authors, journalists, because you know that the American people are only going to get some watered down State Department press release version of this from the media.
And even, you know, people like myself, how can I know what's going on in Haiti unless we're there or unless we connect with people like you?
And that's why I wanted to have you on.
It's critical to present the rest of the story that we're not being told.
Right.
No, it's...
I mean, unfortunately, our mainstream press, and that's why we have to look to programs like yours and Brighteon and other things to get the real story, because it's completely captured.
Colleague I did this with, Dan Cohen, he just started a media outlet called Uncaptured Media.
And so this film that we've put together, Another Vision, is really produced by Haiti Liberté, but in collaboration with Uncaptured Media.
Well, that's great.
I like the name, Uncaptured Media.
So let's go over some of the websites here.
So Haiti Liberté, L-I-B-E-R-T-E is for people.
That's how they spell that.
And then where can people actually find your film?
Do they rent it online?
They can go to the Haiti Liberté channel on YouTube.
Oh, okay.
It is there.
And they just put Another Vision Haiti.
And you will find it both on the channel of Haiti.
Yeah, that will take you to it.
You can find it either on the Haiti Liberté channel or on the Uncaptured Media channel.
And is it free to watch?
It's free to watch.
Yeah, we put it out there free.
The film ended up being two and a half hours.
So we said, well, Americans are not going to sit through a two and a half hour film documentary on Haiti.
But if we break it into a series of three, which is what we did, on the site, on the YouTube channel, you can just click the link for the series and it'll play bing, bing, bing, one after the other.
Oops.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm on your channel now on YouTube.
I see.
It's the Haiti Liberté channel on YouTube.
Right.
Would you also be willing to create a channel on Brighteon.com?
You know, it's free.
Oh, sure.
And upload the film to Brighteon.
That can be a nice backup for you in case for some reason it starts getting censored elsewhere.
And then when we embed the film or the trailers, we would use the Brighteon embed instead of YouTube.
Yeah, yeah, no, that's, I mean, we do have a backup version, I think, on Rumble.
And, I mean, we were going to put one on Rumble.
I don't know if on Rockfin as well, but at least on Rumble, but Brighteon, we're all in, you know, any alternatives.
Who are not captured, we're for it.
Well, not only does it make sense to put it on, I think, every alternative platform you can, but on Brighteon, we're about to roll out a tipping system for not only new videos, but existing videos.
So people who watch your documentary coming up soon, they'll be able to tip your channel, which can be translated into an actual payment to your organization.
Sure, that'd be great.
Yeah.
Let's use the technology.
Yeah, yeah.
It's still there.
I know.
We have to use it while we can because the censorship is so extreme.
And I fear that maybe an invasion of Haiti takes place and then the media is ordered to censor any alternative views.
Sure.
Because that's what happens with everything.
Right.
Yeah.
No, no.
The minute we the spotlight is on us right now, Hades considered sort of a sideshow, sort of unimportant.
And, you know, it's not really I mean, if there's an earthquake, OK, all the spotlights will come on it.
So, you know, Anderson Cooper can, you know, run around in a T-shirt and save a kid.
But, you know, it's it's mostly ignored and unknown.
And nonetheless, it is pivotal.
You have to think, you know, Haiti has had this role that was the touchstone for the liberation struggles of Latin America.
Bolivar He got his guns, his ships, his printing presses, his soldiers from Haiti, which was the first independent nation of Latin America.
And we could say really the first free nation of the Western Hemisphere, because, of course, the United States was a slaveocracy.
But this was a country founded by Self-freed slaves.
And they were the ones who gave Bolivar the means to carry out the liberation of the continent.
Furthermore, when Haiti had its revolution, Napoleon had been planning to use the colony as a stepping stone to reconquer the English colonies in the U.S., But he couldn't do it when he lost Haiti, so he ended up selling the Louisiana Purchase to Thomas Jefferson, you know, for a song.
And so Haiti has had a huge impact on the world and certainly on the United States.
Wow, fascinating history.
Louisiana Purchase, best deal ever.
Best deal ever.
Well, Alaska.
Yeah, Alaska, right.
Russia still wants it back.
But fascinating history.
And I think you're a fascinating individual, Mr.
Ives.
I really appreciate you taking the time with us today.
And I want to encourage people to check out your website.
Again, Haiti Liberté.
And also, the film is called Another Vision.
And look for it soon on brighteon.com.
In fact, Kim, as soon as you can get it up there, I'll ask one of our writers to do a story about this interview and then embed that documentary in the story so we'll get more views for you.
Well, great, Mike.
You know, I'd be glad to join the Brighteon family, as it were.
Hey, it's another platform, and, you know, look, we don't have any investors, okay?
We don't have any public stock.
No one can pressure.
There's not a board of directors that can kick me out or anything like that.
It's like, hey, we're going to call the shots here.
It's freedom of speech, and it's not for sale.
That's all it is.
Well, you know, you're doing in this country really what the Haitians are trying to do in Haiti.
They're trying to take back their country, their thoughts, their ideas, their debates, everything which has been taken over, you know, by this machinery, you know, which is totally run amok and is threatening to We're not kidding.
Yeah, we are really on the precipice right now.
If we don't get more sane people involved in the decision chain, it's not going to go well.
But I thank you for your time and thank you for your contributions to the public discourse on this subject and for bringing it to my attention, too.
Haiti was not on my radar, and it really should be.
I appreciate what you do, Kim.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Mike.
Thank you for the interview.
Absolutely.
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