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Dec. 19, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Angela Albright explains the basics of PMAs (Private Membership Associations)...
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Welcome, everyone.
Mike Adams here, the founder of Brighteon.com, and today I'm joined by a first-time guest, but someone who has come highly recommended by some other guests that we've spoken with.
Her name is Angela Albright.
She's the founder of a website and a service company called SovereignByDesign.com, which talks about private membership organizations, PMAs, and a whole lot more And I've got a ton of questions for her, and she's here to help us answer those questions with some really practical information.
Angela, it's great to have you on.
Thank you for joining us.
Oh, thank you very much.
It's an honor to be here, and yeah, thank you for having me.
Well, we are very happy that you're here, and I'd like to ask you a series of questions that are on my mind.
I think it's on the minds of many people, but a lot of people have heard this term, private membership organization or association, PMA. They've heard it, but they don't know necessarily what it refers to or why somebody would want such a structure set up or what's the purpose or what's the benefit of these kinds of things.
I know it's a nebulous question, but people are interested in their own freedom, their own liberty and self-determination.
Where do we begin with all that?
Yeah, so that's a great question, and there's a lot of layers in there, but we'll just keep it really simple.
So, private membership associations Really, that is a...
I don't want to say it's a catchphrase, but it's kind of a catchphrase, even though that catchphrase has existed for a really long time.
Because as an entity, a private membership association doesn't exist.
It doesn't exist in the banking world.
It doesn't exist in the world of government entities.
So, yeah.
So, PMAs, private membership associations, have existed forever, but from an entity standpoint, it's not an entity.
So, PMAs, the catchphrase of private membership associations, are really what they're lawfully or what the banks would recognize and what the governments would recognize would be unincorporated associations.
I see.
So this is part of the training actually that we go through in our very beginner course with PMAs because people jump into them with the great intentions of wanting to take more control and And self-reliance and be more accountable and be more responsible with their own businesses and create a,
you know, a bit of separation from the contract that they might have with their municipal or provincial governments or in the US, it would be your state governments or even federal governments.
And so they get in there with the right intention, but then, you know, they kind of sign up for these things and then they're like, oh my god, I don't even know what to do.
And I don't know how to keep myself protected.
And, you know, how do I advertise with these things?
And how do I, what are the nuances?
What are the differences between being in incorporation and being on incorporation?
And so going back to PMAs, private membership associations are essentially what they are.
It's an unincorporated association as far as like the government, like the codes that they use for different types of businesses, whether it's a charity or whether it's an incorporation or in the U.S., I think they're S-Corps.
And so all these different entities have codes within their system.
And so they don't recognize a PMA, but they do recognize an unincorporated association.
So why would a person choose this?
Would they conduct business out of this?
Would they store assets in it?
Would they use it to enter contracts with others?
Or what are people using this vehicle for overall?
So the primary reason why, well, let's say my perspective on the primary reason why I think an individual would be interested in using an unincorporated association is because an unincorporated association is governed by different laws than an incorporation or an incorporation or a You know, a registered statute.
Like a C-Corp or LLC or something.
Exactly.
So those all come under the jurisdiction of statutory laws.
And so an unincorporation does not.
Also, those statutory laws, they all fall into programs, whatever kind of incorporation they are, whether it's a charity or whatever it is.
And most of those programs are governed by tax laws.
And unincorporated associations are not governed by tax laws.
So I'm going to just drop that as a hint.
I don't want to get into that conversation too much, but that would be a pretty primary reason why a lot of people would look into that.
And also, if you're set up properly in an unincorporation The way that we set people up in unincorporations, we really take it from the root level.
And we are going in to protect the person.
Now, I don't know, Mike, are you familiar with the person versus you, the man?
Well, only because I've done interviews with people like Christopher James and others who have attempted to educate me.
So I only know the very basics of it.
But yeah, I'm familiar with the concepts.
Right.
Okay, so I'm just going to read something really quick.
And this is from the, it's a document that came out in 2019.
And this is called the United Nations Strategy for Legal Identity for All.
So there's a document that anybody can look up and download.
United Nations Strategy for Legal Identity for All.
So point number six says, equally important, good governance as promoted by the United Nations and the World Bank invariably includes ensuring the proper and universal registration of the occurrence of all vital events,
births, deaths, marriages, divorces, And an issuance of certificates for those events that serve as legal tenders.
So they're telling us that our birth certificate, our death certificate, our marriage certificate, and our divorce certificates serve as legal tender.
And they introduce a lifetime legal identity to the individual that And the production of a comprehensive, regular, and reliable vital statistics based on universal civil registration of all vital events.
So essentially, they're telling us that those events, the births, the deaths, the marriages, the divorce, and specifically the birth certificate, is not only legal identity, but it's introduced us to a lifetime legal identity.
So we are attached to that certificate and a new legal identity from birth.
And for the most part, I would say 99.9% of the population, although many people are waking up to this now, do not understand the laws that govern that legal identity.
Doesn't, by the way, then, sorry if I'm interrupting, but doesn't the Federal Reserve then lay claim to the lifetime value of that entity and the production or percentage of the production of that Of that person or that person's identity.
Yeah, saying that, okay, so now we can print money because we have this collateral and the collateral is that legal tender of the birth certificate that is a proxy for you.
Is that accurate?
Yeah, I mean you are the collateral.
You as the man or the woman are the productivity.
It's also called a transmitting utility.
It's also called the creditor.
So it's the value that like back in 1933 when they reconstructed the Bank Act in the US and the Trading with the Enemy Act came in.
They brought in licensing at that time, and then they made it illegal for us to trade with each other.
And that's when the backing of the US dollar went from being backed by gold to being backed by the people, the full faith and credit of the people, which essentially translates into your labor and your children's labor.
So they can endlessly print money And lend it back to us, backed by our labor as the debtors to pay that back.
Okay?
So we the people signing up for these corporations, like it's tied, right?
Corporations don't just run themselves.
So we the people...
So going into why would we want to be in private membership associations, it's really to start creating a division and a separation.
and why I read that from the United Nations is because there's this whole set of laws that govern the entities that are corporations and they're telling you that your birth certificate has essentially you know turned you into a corporation because there's a whole legal identity and a legal set of laws that go with that
and so one of the primary reasons for for wanting to I believe come into looking at unincorporations and how we set people up with unincorporations is we teach you one how to not separate but to create a differentiation
between you and that birth certificate or driver's license or social insurance number for you guys social security number how to create a differentiation and and how to do things in contrast whether it's individually or in your private membership association, which is tied to your own incorporation.
The unincorporation and the private membership association are governed by a different set of laws and that really, you know, properly structured gets into trusts.
And I know that you've had that conversation.
I listened to your interview with Robert Michael.
And trust law is, you know, trusts and unincorporations, they're governed mainly by contract law.
So that can be private.
That can be a private agreement between you and me, right?
And the government can't step in there.
So what we're essentially doing by getting into private membership associations outside, of course, the tax program that we just spoke of, is that you bring a lot more Self-control, self-reliance back into your business because now the agreements become between you and the member and it's no longer that your state has their hand into your business because you've registered as
an incorporation that is governed by tax law and taxes.
And so they're very much in that contract.
And so when you come into the unincorporated side, their hands are no longer tied to your business and the laws are not the same.
And so it gives you a lot more control back.
And it also obviously has other benefits too.
Yeah, I would say privacy, because I know each state has its own requirements for listing, you know, board of directors or owners or shareholders of different entities and so on, that kind of thing.
But on the tax side of this, I would have to ask or wonder...
It seems like right now arguing with the IRS is a pointless exercise in insanity because the IRS can't even answer mail from two years ago, much less give a rational answer.
It seems like taxing authorities, whether it's the IRS or other authorities around the world, they don't follow any laws at all.
They simply engage in coercion and threats.
They send you a letter that says, we'll just take everything you own.
Take your bank account, take your house, take your business, unless you do this or pay this penalty of $7.14 or whatever.
You know, like every letter starts out the same way.
We'll take everything from you.
And then sometimes they do.
I mean, it seems like there's no principle to argue with.
Well, if you're a citizen and you're attached to that birth certificate and you don't know that there's a difference, then indeed you are...
You're an employee of the state and employees don't have rights.
If you're employed by, let's say, McDonald's or you're employed by Costco, when your employees kick back or don't like something you're doing, You know, unless you're a really heart-based entrepreneur making those decisions and running your company, you probably really don't care what your employees have to say for the most part, right?
And so governments are that.
The municipal governments, all these governments, all these departments are corporatized now.
And they're run by different entities, right?
And they don't, you know, they're corporations.
They don't really care what the employees have to say.
And so, but there's a massive difference between...
And again, coming back to the PMA side, you really can't run a PMA and an unincorporated association without knowing who you are as the man or the woman in that contract that I was talking about, creating that separation from the legal identity that the United Nations is talking about in your birth certificate.
Because once you get the difference between those two and you see that you can operate in a jurisdiction that is Let me say it this way.
In the world of commerce, because unless we're living in the bush where you don't have to abide by any rules, if you are using any of your identification that's government issued to have any utilities or your mortgage or anything, a bank account, any of those things, you're tied in with the world of commerce.
And so we're always going to be tied into that world of commerce.
So everything becomes about contracts and knowing where you are in the contract.
But I want to give you some information that, you know, there's groups in the US and Canada, and I'm part of a group that is on Telegram, and they're teaching people how the Treasury of the United States Is actually working directly with the beneficiaries now.
So that's each of us in a way that we can report to them directly as the beneficiary.
If companies are trying to go into contract with us and they're out of line.
So say for example, See, for example, if you're dealing with the IRS and you feel that, well, for any reason, you'd probably what's called W-4 sandwich the IRS because what that does is the Treasury is working directly with the people now in that if the IRS sends you a nasty letter You're basically going to send an audit request to the Treasury and the Treasury is going to go in and
audit them for your account because you are a beneficiary of that birth certificate of state that I was talking about that the United Nations is right on there that document it says your legal tender so You are the beneficiary of that estate and now the Treasury is starting to work directly with the people to keep these corporations in line with their practices.
And so what's happening is for any government contractors like the IRS, a lot of times they're double dipping into that birth certificate estate as soon as you use your signature and you sign off on anything.
We call it endorsement, but easier to understand signature.
As soon as you put your signature on anything, they are able to go into that estate and be paid for it.
So they've already been paid for it.
And now they're going to basically lend things back to you or like a mortgage.
It's already been paid for.
They've already been paid for it with your signature.
And now they're going to lend that money back to you.
So they're going to be paid back twice.
So you can W-4 now directly to the Treasury and say, please, Please audit this mortgage company and they'll audit it to make sure that they're not double dipping.
What is this W-4 term referring to?
Well, essentially a W-4 form is an employer form in the U.S. for taxation, right?
Yes, yes.
That's the tax reporting form.
But I mean, you use the term W-4 sandwich.
Yeah, they call it a sandwich because it comes with, you send a letter, a handwritten letter with the W-4 form and a voucher.
A 1040V voucher to the Treasury.
And you're basically telling them to please accept it for value, pay the debt, right?
And if the company is double dipping, to please credit you.
So either gets credited to your birth certificate estate and, you know, and it's not really a cash thing because as you know, money's not really real.
It's about credit.
And so the cash that we have right now is dead instruments, right?
They're dead instruments.
But people are getting their mortgages paid off.
People are getting their student loan debts cleared.
If you have things like speeding tickets or even court cases, I've personally had about three court cases that got dropped by just W4-ing, like sending that paperwork into the court and say, listen, this isn't going to happen.
They're not appearing.
We need your business number because this is going to an audit to the U.S. Treasury.
Even in Canada, we're using the U.S. Treasury.
And they drop it like a hot cake because they don't want to pay the tax on that.
So I want to swing.
Yeah, go ahead.
Well, so the U.S. Treasury receives these letters or these submissions of the W-4 sandwich, as you said.
And then the Treasury does what?
I mean, do they have a department that actually pays attention to this?
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, they do.
And it's like, I think, I don't know if you're familiar with the fact that the Treasury or the IRS said they were hiring like 87,000 agents.
Yes, we've covered that.
So we think, oh my god, they're coming after the people.
No, they're not.
I think what's happening is the US military is in charge, and the US treasury is the money of the country, right?
And really, you know, of the continent, if not the world.
And And they're working with the people to empower the people as the beneficiaries of these estates that we are.
And they're working with the people to keep these corporations accountable.
And so as we do that, it's a little bit complicated, but as we do that, as we, the beneficiaries, step in and ensure that there's not double dipping and these really unscrupulous type business practices and charges coming at us and fines, and really these corporations have gone like...
It almost feels like the Wild West, right?
There's no accountability.
And so really, they've all got, as government contractors, they've all got access to our estates.
And if they get your signature, they get paid.
Essentially, that's it.
So you get pulled over on the side of the road, you're getting paid.
I think a lot of our listeners, though, would be really skeptical of the idea that the Treasury is looking out for us and helping to protect the people against corporations.
It seems like the Treasury is in on the big ripoff, the big print more money, devalue the dollar, effectively steal your savings.
Yeah, go ahead.
I understand.
And I think that prior to...
I'm not political and I don't want to make it political because that's a whole argument in itself.
But I do believe what happened was that your last president...
Folded the Federal Reserve into the United States Treasury.
I've heard that before.
I haven't been able to confirm that, but I have heard that.
Yeah.
And so with that, there was also an executive order that went out that any corporations that were caught...
Having any crimes against humanity would fall under the...
would become property, really, of the United States Treasury.
That was an executive order that he issued, I think, in 2017.
Yeah.
And so that even affects us in Canada because all corporations are registered in Washington, D.C. Right?
So Canada, Inc., Is registered in Washington, D.C. So whoever owns that, the Security Exchange Commission is really the part owner of Canada Inc.
You see?
Because all the corporations are controlled through that registration process by a foreign entity.
And Washington, D.C. is foreign to even you in the state that you live in, right?
Because Washington, D.C. is its own country, essentially.
Yeah, I've heard this too, that people say the United States of America is a corporation, and that D.C. is foreign territory, and that it's occupied, and that's why the military was there, especially after January 6th and so on.
But there's never been anything really solid that I could see that would say for sure that this structure is in place.
It's been hints, it seems.
Yeah, and we're seeing with our own eyes and our own testimonies that we are working with the Treasury as people and they are responding and people are having successes and see part of it is Part of it is contract law and contracts that have always existed.
That contract law has always been there.
And people in growing numbers now are recognizing and seeing that they're not the birth certificate entity that has this legal identity that's being...
That's being governed by statutory laws.
We are men and women, and we're separate from that, and there is a different jurisdiction that governs that.
And so going back to the PMAs, you know, if you're in the incorporated world, if you're in the S-corp world, You really, that entity, that contract is with your state and with your federal government because those are regulated entities and they're regulated by tax programs.
And so they've got a whole staff, including the justice departments and the courts and everything that regulate those corporations.
And when you come into the private membership association or the unincorporated association world, then the jurisdiction is different.
The laws are different.
It's no longer governed by those statutory entities.
And so you can't really be successful in the PMA world unless you start to look at who you are in relation to that birth certificate entity.
Because you're now in the world of...
I don't want to say common law, but you're now seeing that everything is a contract.
When you wake up and you brush your teeth in the morning and you get into your car, as soon as you get into your car, you're in a potential contract because who is that driving that car?
Are you driving or are you traveling?
Is it the birth certificate that is in that registration process that's driving?
Or can you as a man get in your vehicle and travel?
Of course you can.
There's laws that say that you as a man can get in and travel as long as you're not engaged in commerce.
If you're engaged in commerce, then it has to be that birth certificate entity because now you're in a contractual role.
You've got to dip that hat on.
But if you just get in your car and you travel to the store to get yourself a cup of coffee in the morning, you're not engaged in commerce.
So there's a whole different, you know, the whole underworld of, you know, the under the sea exists versus, what do I want to say, deep sea diving exists.
There's a whole world under the deep sea than there is above the land.
Like these two different jurisdictions exist and majority of people don't recognize that there's different laws that apply to both those different jurisdictions.
And so as a PMA, an unincorporated association, you're in a completely different jurisdiction and you have to know who you are as the man or the woman.
In that situation so that you can keep yourself in that jurisdiction and and what a PMA is is a private membership association is just basically an agreement that you create so you you set yourself up as an unincorporated association and then you have an agreement that you sign with your members that now becomes a private agreement between you and them and the state cannot step in because I think it's section one Section 1 chapter
or section 1 something 10 that article 1 section 10 that says the state cannot impair the contract.
It can't come in between you and that contract between you and your private member.
So I understand also that you're intentionally being a little bit vague because this is a public conversation, but I want to mention that your organization offers consulting services and a class.
You mentioned right before we started, you've got a class that instructs people about this.
You said it starts January 17th, is that correct?
That's right, yeah.
Okay, and let me give your website sovereignbydesign.com.
Can people go there and learn about the class?
They can go to sovereignbydesign.com And that will give them direct information about the class.
Because we're a private membership forum, you won't really see anything on the outside of Sovereign by Design.
But if you go to sovereignbydesign.com slash PMA, then you'll see us, you know, the discussion about that class and how they can sign up for that class if they like.
And I just want to share that that's a, it's going to be a three-part webinar, probably about an hour and a half per part.
So three parts, three weeks.
And what we really get into with that is helping people grasp what a PME is, what an an incorporation is, what's the landscape of business that you're looking at.
So we really get people solid in understanding all this stuff so that they can decide whether they want to move forward or not.
And then if they move forward to setting themselves up as a PMA structure, an incorporated association structure, they really have a good foundation for getting involved and going that route.
Because we find that lots of people get involved and then they don't know how to hold their ground and they don't know, you know, they've They got, you know, they're in the lease building and now the lease itself, you know, the licensing can come down because that is a contract.
And so they get themselves involved in these situations where they want to do the right thing, but they don't understand the landscape of What they're getting involved in and so I feel like it's a really fundamental program that helps people really get their feet and feel strong before they get into a private membership association.
Okay, great.
So an introduction to the concepts that people can use to make decisions.
And I want to mention, too, that one of the reasons why I think I'm hearing more about this really began with the Canadian truckers' protests and the government response to that.
Which, of course, as you know, was to illegally seize the bank accounts or to order the banks to freeze the bank accounts of citizens merely because they were peacefully voicing their dissent against a corrupt government regime.
So at that point, I think a light went on in the minds of a lot of people saying that, hey, even if I play by all the rules of all this bureaucracy, they can weaponize the system against me.
And take away all my life savings or my access to my life savings.
And they realize that the system is always going to be rigged against them.
Do you think that's a fair characterization of where a lot of people are right now in just their overall understanding of their interaction with corrupt governments?
Yeah, and I don't want to give the idea that we're trying to...
The people have always had the power.
We've just been complacent.
We don't know the laws.
They were able to seize those bank accounts because they're tied to a birth certificate entity, a person.
A person by law is a corporation.
So they've made a corporation out of your name.
And because it's registered with them, that's a registered account that they have control of or that they're in control of that contract.
So again, people aren't aware of the contracts that they're engaged in.
And if we are aware of the contracts, we can control those contracts.
So essentially, I think that most people were awakened, yes, to the fact that, oh my gosh, the government can just seize your bank account.
That's crazy.
But the reality is that that didn't have to happen, right?
It's just that people are unaware of where they are in the contract with their government.
So we can...
This whole W-4 thing and...
What we aim to do, Sovereign by Design, is to help people to get an understanding of who they are in that particular situation.
As soon as you leave your house, you're basically walking into a commercial contract and who and where you are in that contract so you can control all the contracts that are going on.
You can have a contract with a banking institution in Canada that takes it out of the all caps name.
And brings it into an unincorporated association, right?
And so then those are not seizable.
So the thing is, is that we're just...
A lot of it is on us, too, being complacent.
Yes, the government's gone rogue, but the government's gone rogue because we're not holding them accountable.
Yes, right.
Well, you get the tyranny that you put up with, right?
That's...
Right, yeah.
And also, it's been...
You know, we think that we have governments, but what we have are corporations posing as governments and corporations run differently than governments.
You guys are a little bit different in the US. You had a republic at one point, you had a constitution for the people.
And I think a lot of people are waking up to that now and seeing that the United States corporation came in and kind of just bolted itself on top of that and made that constitution irrelevant.
And as a citizen, you're not part of that constitution, right?
As a citizen, you are bound by the rules of the corporation.
And so either you have to become a state national to get out of that contract with the corporate government Or you have to learn about contracting and where you are in that contract with the government.
And that's where you can really shut stuff down.
You'll come to know that you are the beneficiary of that birth certificate state that they created.
And when you come into that awareness, you are at the top of the game instead of right now being at the bottom of the game where they're looking to just monetize off of us because they see us as...
Cash cow contracts and we don't know what we're doing so they can just, you know, they can just mow over top of us.
Mm-hmm.
Tax farms.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Slave farms.
I mean, yeah, we're all living under a system of enslavement.
And, of course, a lot of people are concerned about central bank digital currencies being rolled out, which would make it even worse.
More surveillance, no privacy, programmable money, controllable systems, central control.
You would lose all privacy of your money in that scenario as well.
So it's kind of like people need to get educated.
Pretty quickly here, given where things are going next year.
Yeah.
And, you know, the beautiful part is that we have complete control.
We really do.
It seems so hopeless because everybody's asleep and they don't understand that they're in a contract and that you can manage that contract.
But we are in control.
And the beautiful thing is 90% of the masses can stay asleep.
And just like you saw with COVID and the whole mask mandate and the push for vaccines, Those that wanted to said no.
Right.
And by law, they were protected.
Yeah, you're right.
The majority didn't know the law.
The majority thought that the television set and the person who's, you know...
Who's giving a narrative of the agenda was the law and we've got to do it.
And, you know, it became confusing when our schools and, you know, education facilities and our bosses were telling us we had to do it.
But at the end of the day, If you had enough connection to your own spirit inside and you were, you know, not wanting to do that, you could find groups that were telling people that it wasn't the law and you had the right in law to say no.
It was all spell casting by the establishment.
That's what I call it.
They're casting spells and illusions.
And most people went along with it.
But those who didn't have now been vindicated and in many cases even reinstated with their jobs, in some cases with back pay.
So if you held your ground, you know, they never came to you with a gun to your head and said, you have to take the jab or we'll shoot you.
They just made your life difficult if you didn't do it.
But if you held your ground, eventually you won out.
So, yeah, thank you for pointing that out, Angela.
And that's the difference right there, Mike, between being in a PMA structure for yourself, setting yourself up as a business of PMA structure.
They can't bring they can't wield that power through the insurance corporations and the and the corporation itself to come in and tell you what you have to do with your employees or your team.
They can't do that on the private side.
There's a saying that says all law In our countries is ran by presumption and assumption.
Let's say the legal system, not law.
The legal system is run by presumption and assumption.
For the longest time, I didn't have a clue what that meant.
What that means is that the entire legal structure, the police, for us, the RCMP, because those are separate, those are different entities, and the judicial system And the ministers and the government.
It's all being run by presumption and assumption that you don't have a clue.
It's all presumption and assumption on their part.
However they're funding themselves, they're funding this massive campaign of presumption and assumption to run an agenda based on the fact that you don't know your rights.
You don't know the law.
You don't know your rights.
Those that knew the law knew that they could just say no.
So if I own a business and I'm set up with this PMA structure with you, and then let's say some local county or state orders me to lock down my employees, then what I say, my first question is, do I have a contract with you?
Is that how this begins?
Yeah, essentially, we are an unincorporated association, and so can you just share with me by what authority you are even addressing me?
Exactly.
And then they would try to cite all their laws that don't apply.
It's all BS laws.
Yeah, yeah.
And so this is the thing when we...
So we don't really...
With Sovereign by Design, we definitely don't work with people in a customer relationship.
We're about bringing people to, come on over here, we're your brothers and sisters, and we're all in this together, and we're figuring out this whole presumption-assumption thing.
We've got a little bit more knowledge than you do at this point, and we're going to help you help yourself.
And so we're going to help give you the education on how to set the structure up for yourself.
And at the end of the day, you've got to stand in it.
But we're there, as your brothers and sisters, to assist you to learning the system that you're working within so you're not just left there flailing.
But there's a difference between Going to a firm, say going to a lawyer, and you just pay them to set up a corporation and you get this corporate book back with your articles on corporation.
You're like, great, okay, awesome.
Now I'm off to the bank.
I'm just going to give them that number.
And I'm set up and I'm good to go.
And you haven't read anything in that binder.
The difference of being on that side and being on the private side is that a trust is an amazing document.
Oh my gosh.
It's an amazing tool that essentially it's the highest law of the land internationally.
And, but it will not protect you if you don't know how to protect it.
You have to learn how to stand in that.
You got to learn the difference that you're not that birth certificate entity.
You got to learn what's taken place here because it's been this big, this big bamboozle that's gone over a cloud over all of our heads.
And we have to be able to stand in those contracts on our own.
When people come over to us, I just don't want to give them the idea that we don't just set you up magically and then send you off.
You come and you study and we help you study and we help you set your structure up.
And we help you set yourself up for success so that you can stand in that.
And so I just wanted to make that distinction that...
Yeah, there's a big distinction between kind of being a customer and you're coming to basically empower yourself to set up your own structure.
But of course, you're going to get a template.
And actually, this course that we're running on the 17th, This is all about learning the landscape of it.
And then we have a bigger course that you go into that gets you into private ledger banking that goes with your unincorporated association that helps you protect your all caps name so you're no longer The government subcontractors, the police, any entities that are subcontracted to the government, they can't just go into contract with you without your consent anymore.
They hit a stone wall and they're like, what?
Okay, we can't contract with you.
And so it stops the presumption and assumption that the whole legal system is created on and gives you a lot more power back.
Well, there's obviously a lot to learn, so I'm glad you have this class coming up on January 17th.
Let me give out the URL one more time.
Sovereignbydesign.com slash PMA. Yep.
And that'll get you details on that class.
And then, obviously, we've only scratched the surface here, Angela.
There's a lot to cover.
There is.
I appreciate you taking the time to kind of give us a little taste of this.
My head is still spinning about a lot of these concepts.
I'm trying to understand it.
It's complex, but every time I speak with someone like you, I learn a little bit more.
Excellent.
I appreciate that.
I really appreciate you giving space and time and energy to these conversations because they're super important.
I feel like this is how we take our power back.
Absolutely.
And there's not a lot of large audiences that really pay attention to this stuff yet, but I think that we're going to see a massive difference in that very shortly here.
Well, one of the things that we've learned over all the years here is that only a small percentage of human beings are actually interested in the effort it takes to secure their own freedom.
It's much easier and convenient to just go along as a wage slave and go with the system and don't rock the boat.
And that's what, you know, 97% of people choose.
That's so true.
And then we see all the time, honestly, we see all the time, oh my God, now I'm in hot water, right?
Oh my gosh, I got an invoice from the IRS or the CRA for $100,000 and they're taking me to court and oh my God, what do I do?
And at that point, it's like...
It's way more challenging to sort yourself out.
It's not that it can't be done.
It can be done pretty quickly, actually, now.
And that's that whole W-4 sandwich, right?
That would take care of court cases and any kind of...
Because, again, the birth certificate is a trust.
And we are the beneficiaries.
So anything that's done in your name, period, really, unless it's your brother sending you a Christmas card, anything that's done in your name, any bill, any mail that you get in your name, it's not to you, the man or the woman, it's to that birth certificate entity.
And so when you understand trust, if we're the beneficiary, everything that's done within that That trust has to be done in the benefit of the beneficiary.
So right now, most people are running around as a trustee, as the debtor, right?
And so if they would just stop and learn this stuff, they would realize they're the beneficiary and, you know, beneficiaries don't have to take tax bills.
Interesting.
Because it's an estate.
It's a trust.
And what happens to the trust has to be in your benefit.
But if you don't claim the beneficiary role, then you're going to be put in the debtor role, the trustee role.
And the trustee is the one who pays everything.
Very, yeah.
Very interesting.
It's about, this is a super red pill awakening type of moment.
It's kind of like waking up within the dream and realizing you've been dreaming and you actually control the dream.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you don't know it, right?
It's very empowering.
Yeah.
It's very empowering.
It's just a bit of a red pill, like you say.
Well, okay, so we're going to wrap this up, but this is just the beginning.
I hope we get a chance to talk again.
I'll be interested to hear the feedback on this interview, and I want to encourage our audience, as usual, you have permission to repost this on other channels and other platforms as well.
And I just want to thank you, Angela, for taking the time with us this evening.
It's been a real pleasure to learn a little bit about this.
Obviously, a lot more to learn, but this has been great.
Awesome.
Thank you, Mike.
It's such a pleasure to be here.
And yeah, I hope to speak again soon.
Okay.
All right.
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