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Nov. 22, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Doug Billings shares message of HOPE and INSPIRATION for taking America back from the commusocialist
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All right.
Welcome, friends.
Mike Adams here with a special guest, a first-time guest, but also a host on BrightTown.TV. His name is Doug Billings, and his show is called The Right Side with Doug Billings.
His website is DougBillings.us, and he joins us today to talk about hope for America's future.
How do we defeat the communists and the Marxists?
Mr.
Doug Billings, it's an honor, sir, to have you on.
Welcome to the show.
Mike, thanks a lot.
This is well overdue, and I'm just honored to be here with you.
Thank you for everything that you're doing with Brideon.
I appreciate you.
I appreciate you, Mr.
Billings, more than you know, you and so many other amazing hosts there.
You breathe life into the network.
I mean, we built the system, but without you, it's nothing.
So your message is what's going to carry us forward.
And let's start with that, too.
Can you hold up your book?
Do you have it handy there?
Well, thank you, Mike.
Yeah, let me see if I can get a good...
book, Remaking the American Political System, ladies and gentlemen.
See if I can get that in the camera there.
Remaking the American Political System.
Perfect.
So let me ask you right off the bat, when did this book come out?
It came out last week, right before Thanksgiving weekend.
It was good timing for us, the holiday season and so forth.
In fact, it debuted last week.
We were at Branson, Missouri with Clay Clark and his Reawaken America tour.
So the book debuted that weekend.
Resounding success and reception to the book and to the message within it.
Couldn't have been happier with the reception that it got in Branson, and we're hoping that it helps people understand that there is hope out there.
Even though we're in this nightmare thrust upon us by the Communist Socialist Party, as I call them, I make a statement and a claim in the book, and I've said on my show numerous times that We're good to go.
Always wakes up from nightmares.
And so in the book we talk about how to do that, how to win again, how to govern ourselves, how to get back to the true intent of the founding fathers.
There's historical perspectives in there to give us context to understand that this is not the first time that we've been in this situation in the United States.
In fact, it's happened several times.
And America will survive.
America is not on our deathbed.
We're going to make it.
And you're on the cusp of the greatest reawakening, I think, to the divine providence of God since even before the Founding Fathers.
I think it's going to be something really spectacular.
And I think, again, Mike, I think that it's an exciting time to be alive.
Well, that's for sure, and it's a relief what you just said.
However, let's have a conversation about this, because that's what this is all about.
But let me play devil's advocate with you for a second.
Since you're the author of the book, you go ahead and counter what I'm about to say, okay?
You got it, Mike.
I'll try to express what I think the audience might be thinking.
The audience might say, well, Doug, it's never been this bad before.
We've never had pedophiles throughout the education system.
We've never had, you know, fill in the blank, whatever it is, elections rigged by machines.
We've never had, you know, lockdowns with a bioweapon that was released on the...
You know what I'm saying?
Sure.
Ten things that...
I hear that from people.
Like, it's never been this bad, and we don't know if we can come back from this.
What would you say to that?
I think that we have to look at historical context, the context in which we live.
Of course, today in America, to your point with lockdowns, the bioweapon, the jab and so forth, that is nothing like that has happened before to that degree.
However, when we look at the context of history, we understand that, for example, during the time of the Civil War, there were shutdowns, lockdowns, et cetera.
And there were entire families that were separated from one another based on what their belief was with regards to slavery.
The founding fathers, the signers of the Declaration of Independence, 56 men, their lives were turned upside down.
In many cases, they lost their wives.
All of them suffered some sort of persecution on some level.
Many of them lost their property, their fortunes, and they stuck together, and they didn't acquiesce.
They didn't give in.
We look at the time of the Civil War, for example.
It was a terrible time in America, where America was literally at war with itself.
And so when we look at this today in context with regards to history, we understand that, you know, and you mentioned child sex trafficking.
Yes, unfortunately, that has gone on since the time of the founding.
I mean, it's just that it's now become part of the public dialogue.
Well, I know that's been going on through Roman era and Egyptian empires and everything.
Yeah, that's a horror that has been a plague upon humanity since the beginning of recorded history.
I understand that.
Sadly.
Yeah, and when we look at...
I contend in the book that roughly since the time of World War II, conservative people, conservatives have everything in common with the Founding Fathers these days.
We are the party of the Founding Fathers.
Now, the Democrats certainly aren't.
The Communist Socialists are not.
In fact, they are anti-America.
AOC, the squad, everything that they stand for over there, Bernie Sanders, they are not a pro-America political party.
Evidence of the obvious is sufficient.
Just look what they're doing.
Look what they're doing to the republic.
Where do you want to start?
We can start at the border.
We can start with the shipping and logistics, the prices, the energy problem, the debacle.
The debacle in Afghanistan, all of it rolled into one is a nightmare.
And they have been at it since World War II.
And we conservatives have not.
We have not been involved in our local levels.
That's how they got here, Mike.
That's how the communist socialists took over the local levels.
Let me draw a comparison to that with regards to what just happened last week in our midterm elections.
We had a monsoon of a red wave across this country, but you don't hear about it in the media.
The mainstream media doesn't cover it, and the rhinos in Washington, D.C. will not talk about it.
And rhinos are a problem.
But we had 194 victories last week against only 9 losses.
When you look at the entire republic, 194 to 9.
If that's not a red wave, I don't know what is.
Yet the mainstream media, the Communist Socialist Party of America, which is not a pro-America political party, and the RINOs will not have any of that.
In fact, ladies and gentlemen, let's not just focus on Washington, D.C. and the House and the Senate.
Because we didn't do as well there as we wanted.
We got the house, but we still didn't do as well as we wanted.
I admit that.
But when we look at the country as a whole, 194 wins to 9 losses.
If that's not a red wave, I'd like to know what is.
Well, but let me counter that and say I think the frustration with people is not the outcome, but the sense of unfairness.
In other words, I think most conservatives, and you correct me if you think I'm wrong about this, but I think most conservatives can live with losing elections if it's lost fair and square.
What's driving people nuts, and I feel this too, is that...
You know, you outvote the opponent, and then they just cheat, cheat, cheat.
And look at Carrie Lake in Arizona right now.
That situation, so obvious, so blatant, so illegal.
And 2020, with Joe Biden, it was obviously rigged in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Georgia and Arizona and Nevada.
And...
A couple other places I forgot as well.
Michigan.
But it was so rigged.
I mean, that's the frustration in people I sense.
What do you think?
I think you're spot on.
And I completely honor that.
I understand that frustration.
Look, when something is stolen from you, you want it back as soon as possible.
I understand that.
I get it.
I feel the same way.
Look, my job...
Is to tell the truth and to give hope.
To give real hope.
Not hopium.
Not the mythical hope that's sometimes out there that gets into the dialogue.
But to give real hope.
And for me, I look at 194 to 9 and I go, there's hope there.
Now we have a lot of work to do with regards to the stolen elections, the rigged elections.
A lot of work.
My heartfelt desire and I plead with the American people, do not give up.
Stay involved.
Look, we did not get here overnight, and we're not going to get out of it overnight.
We have to give ourselves permission to know and believe that we will endeavor to take three or four or five or six or ten election cycles, no matter how much it takes, to get out of this thing.
And we have.
And so I'll point out more wins.
In this country, over the last year, we have run for and won seats on school boards, and we have fired woke school superintendents.
And as a result of that, Mike, in 14 states this year alone, they have outlawed critical race theory in their school curriculums.
Those are huge wins.
Now, I don't know how many people have ever heard of that, but it wouldn't surprise me if not many had, because it doesn't get talked about in the mainstream media.
But those are huge, crucial victories for us as conservatives, and they happen at the local level on Main Street America, not in Washington, D.C. We take our focus off of Washington, D.C., into our local communities, and it will filter up to D.C. eventually.
So, this leads to a very interesting question, and I really appreciate you pointing that out.
You're right.
At the local level, We, the people, can take this back from the lunatics that are trying to indoctrinate our children, and that is happening.
But there's a phenomenon here, which is the segregation, the political segregation of America, where in some local areas, we take it back, we have sanity, no child grooming, no drag queen story time in the preschool.
And then in other areas, They just, like California, for example, or Portland or Seattle or wherever, they just go all in with the most insane thing that they can possibly think of.
It's just craziness.
And then, and my question to you, sir, is then, in the next national election, 2024, with the Electoral College, we have these Democrat-run states that have essentially committed to cheating and No matter what it takes, they're going to cheat to make sure that their electoral votes go against the Republican Party, whereas the Republican states are not committed to cheating.
They're committed to fair and free elections like we saw in Florida recently.
And so if you're up against, you know, half the country is just going to cheat.
The other half is going to run fair elections.
How do you ever overcome that?
Again, it's through local...
What you just painted was a bleak picture, Mike.
I'm known for that.
I excel at that.
And I understand that that's on everyone's mind.
We have to have faith, A. We have to make sure that we engage, B. There are battlefronts that we're facing, multiple battlefronts.
People would say, we're never going to make it to 2024.
Our country's going to be over by then.
No, it's not.
America's not going anywhere.
We are in a nightmare, and it's going to take all of our efforts to get out of it.
We have to, at the local level, get involved.
Each one of the states that we both can name, Mike, as commu-socialist states, if you will, Illinois, California, Michigan to a degree, Oregon, Washington State, the states that have demonstrated that they are anti-America by the virtue of their government.
Now, the people within those states, I can tell you, I go on these Clay Clark Reawaken America tours, and we've been to Washington State, we've been to Oregon, we've been to California, we've been to Idaho and Colorado and Michigan, and we've been to New York.
And I can tell you that the people in those states hunger for the conservative message.
I think California is a red state.
I think outside of San Francisco, Hollywood, Los Angeles, and maybe Sacramento, it's a red state.
And so we've got to encourage those people to stand up for themselves in those states and root out the corruption.
On the other hand, if people want to have a communist socialist, if the people of Illinois, just to draw an example on that state, if they want to live in such a fashion, then so be it.
They will have to make those decisions for themselves.
That is exactly what the Founding Fathers had in mind.
Now, it doesn't appeal to you and me.
It doesn't appeal to the vast majority of people in this country.
I am of the belief that That the people that really subscribe to the communist socialist agenda, the platform and their policies, are about 10% of the total population.
A vast minority of people.
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot tweeted out after that recent shooting in Colorado Springs, I think five people were killed in a gay bar by some crazed, psychotic shooter.
Lori Lightfoot tweeted, you know, it's horrible.
This should never happen.
It's horrendous.
And then the first reply to her was, wait till you hear about Chicago.
Yeah.
Because that's every day in Chicago.
Yeah, every day.
It's a war zone in Chicago.
And Lori Lightfoot and people like her We have commu-socialist mayors like Lori Lightfoot.
We have commu-socialist state district attorneys and secretaries of state who do not prosecute with extreme prejudice these violent criminals.
They do not.
If these criminals are prosecuted at all, they barely spend a smidgen of their sentence in jail.
They're let out early.
And I can cite case after case after case where these commie socialist leaders let violent criminals out early or don't prosecute them at all with extreme prejudice and they go and somehow they get these guns and that's a whole other question, Mike.
How does a 19-year-old unemployed kid in Pennsylvania get $20,000 worth of guns and ammo?
Is somebody providing him this stuff?
That's the question that I have and I'll tell you this, Mike.
Because of the fact that these communist socialist politicians do not prosecute.
They let out early.
They want the violence, Mike.
They want these shootings to happen or else they would act differently.
They would lock them up and throw away the key.
But they want the violence because it furthers their narrative to grab our guns.
We need more laws, they say.
We'll need more.
Well, let me tell you something, Mike.
There's no law.
There's no law that's going to prevent you and me from jaywalking, and there's certainly no law that will prevent you and me from shooting anybody should we decide to go off the deep end.
But what we can do is enact and enforce and prosecute the laws that are on the books and put these people away for a very, very long time.
But the left will not do that.
And so I'm only left with one possible conclusion.
They must want the violence.
Yeah, well, clearly.
And they defunded the police.
Well, of course, yes.
All right, so getting back to your book then, can you hold it up again for us?
Remaking the American Political System.
And is there an audiobook version available yet?
There is not yet, but soon to be, I hope.
Yeah, so there's an e-book, hard copy, paperback, and so forth.
Okay, you know, and...
I hope you don't blush on this, but most authors are not the right people to read their own books, but you are.
You should do your audiobook.
Thank you.
Well, thank you very much, Mike.
In the beginning, yes.
No, seriously, are you going to record your book?
I would like to.
We're working on that, yes.
I would like to record it, and we're working with the studio to make sure that that can happen.
Hopefully, knock on wood, before Christmas, we'll see if that happens, but thank you.
Okay, that's very cool.
Well, if you do that, by the way, give us like a chapter of your audio and we'll put it up on Brighteon as a special video snippet.
That's awesome.
Thank you, Mike.
I'll do that.
Yeah, you bet.
Great.
We're excited about the book.
We think it's a pathway forward and we think it provides a lot of remedies for what we're into right now and we're real happy about it.
Very cool.
Well, I want to ask you that.
So in terms of solutions, and I know that that's your focus, which is really, it's a breath of fresh air, actually.
Don't be dissuaded by my dark questions on all this.
I will not be.
Talk about what are solutions, what could we do between now and 2024?
Because we've got this odd window when the GOP is about to take over the House and they say they're going to have investigations.
What are we, the people, supposed to do during this time?
Well, we keep on getting involved and we keep on building ourselves up.
We have to have each other's back.
We're in this together.
We need to, first of all, we have to gift ourselves with four key virtues.
We have to search for and find wisdom in all of this with a capital W, wisdom from the Holy Spirit.
We have to reflect then on what wisdom shows us.
We don't simply react.
That's what the left desires.
They don't have the capacity to reflect.
They simply react, and it's usually in violent tones.
So wisdom, reflection, and then action at your local level.
Conservatives take peaceful local action at our local level.
We get involved.
Look, it takes a lot of energy.
Believe me, I know I've done this.
To come home after a long day of work and go sit through a three-hour school board meeting is not everybody's cup of tea and it's not a lot of fun.
But we have to do it and speak up.
And we have to run for these positions when they open up.
So wisdom, reflection, action, and then finally the fourth virtue is patience.
I urge people to gift themselves with that virtue.
We've got to be patient.
We've got to endeavor.
We can't become conservative snowflakes where we just melt down in the face of adversity, challenge, and tragedy.
Oh my God, we're never going to make it, Mike.
We can't make it to 2024.
Are you kidding?
We're going to be done by then.
No, we're not.
We are not.
Come on.
Come with us.
Come back in off the ledge of panic, and let's work together.
Let's endeavor to get through this.
In the book, I talk about returning to the Founders' intent, returning to what the Founding Fathers intended.
If you want to use school boards and schools as an example, we can go back in history, and we do in the book.
In the beginning, every one of the founding fathers wanted the Bible and theology to be part of the public school system.
You could go back and research and Google colonial school curriculums.
Theology, the Bible, civics, mathematics, philosophy.
We need to get back to that.
We really do.
And in order to reclaim our youth, one specific example that I give in the book, our youth have been under attack by this indoctrination from the left for decades.
I suggest in the book that we ought to consider, as a republic, compulsory military service for everyone graduating from high school, or if they don't go to high school between the ages of 18 and 20, compulsory two-year military service.
Go in there, learn to trade, learn to love the country and the flag, either stay in and make a career out of it, or come out with a skill that you've learned, and hopefully more resilience and more maturity after that.
That's one example that I mentioned in the book.
Okay.
All right.
Well, some people have suggested throughout history that then that service be tied to the right to vote.
Sure.
Like a citizenship status That you have to serve two years, maybe in the military, or some people have suggested in certain approved non-profits or what have you, you know, building homes for people, whatever it is, but it's a trade, right?
And then you earn the right to vote.
Do you think that there's a place?
No, I tend not to agree with that.
You know, our rights come from God.
The Constitution doesn't give us our rights, but our rights are codified in there.
And in the Constitution, it says if you're 18, you can vote.
So now that that's the case, the onus is on us as conservative men and women to take control of our youth.
And I mean that in every good way.
To teach them Historical perspectives of the foundations of this republic to teach them civics, not just history, to teach them that there is a reason for it, that we're not systemically racist, that the founders desperately wanted to get out of the slave trade and to end slavery.
And they had to do it in incremental steps.
And there was negotiations with other states that didn't want to go so fast and so forth and so on.
Other ways that we can look at the republic are the institutions within it that have harmed the kids.
The National Education Association, I think, ought to be eliminated.
I think National Public Radio ought to be eliminated or have it funded privately but not through the federal government.
I think that we get rid of the Department of Interior.
Why do we need a Department of Interior?
We have a Department of Homeland Security.
Let them do the same thing.
Or the Endowment of the Arts.
Let the states take care of the endowment.
If the states want to run it and have an art foundation, so be it.
The same thing with national parks.
Stop the funding.
Get the states involved.
If the states want to fund it and run it and do it, it should be left up to them.
And then stop, by the way, every bit of foreign aid that we're giving out.
You talk about forensic audits of elections.
We ought to have a forensic audit of the foreign aid that we're sending to people that hate us.
Well, I think most of our listeners would agree to that, especially what about all this aid going to Ukraine that appears to vanish into a black hole.
Yeah, that's a problem.
And I think, you know, and also with the collapse of FTX, that crypto Ponzi scheme that was, in ways, it functioned as a slush fund for Democrats.
But I think more and more people are realizing that a lot of this foreign aid is a giant global slush fund operation where it's like, okay, we'll send you a billion dollars, you send us back half a billion, and we'll call it even.
But here's where you're going to send the money to, right?
That kind of thing.
And it's...
Again, it's not that the American people can't handle a little bit of corruption in the system.
It's just that it's so frustrating when you go to work every day.
You work hard.
You pay taxes.
You come home.
You try to pay property taxes.
You try to put food on the table.
Grocery prices are going up.
And then you're like, oh, well, and the Fed is just printing money and handing it out to just a bunch of crooks.
That's the frustration, the lack of justice once again.
I understand and I hear that.
I hear every day people calling for justice with regards to what we've endured in this republic over the last two years.
I mean, you know, and when I say the last two years, I'm speaking primarily of the election fraud that we've experienced.
But we could go further back.
I mean, you look at the Clinton, Bush, Obama regimes and what they've done.
Oh, my gosh, Mike, we could make a series of shows on just that.
And I understand people out there, and I'm one of them.
I see these people that seem to escape.
Hillary, look at what they've done to President Trump.
Every investigation has been proven either false, inaccurate, or a myth altogether.
And yet we seem to have solid proof of Hillary, her server in the basement.
They blame Trump for nuclear codes!
He had nuclear codes at Mar-a-Lago, which is absolute BS. But yet they try to make it stick.
And we have all of this stuff on Hillary.
And nothing seems to ever happen.
And that's why...
You mentioned earlier in our conversation here tonight that when the Republican Congress comes into session in January, we had better see some action.
I'm a critic of McCarthy.
I'm a critic of McDonnell and McDaniel.
Rona McDaniel, the leader of the GOP, the chairwoman of the GOP, Oh, yeah.
She's got to go.
Oh, my goodness.
The MCs have got to go.
The mix.
The MCs.
McCarthy, McConnell, and McDaniel.
I think, personally, they've all got to go.
I don't see any traction with them.
I don't see any way forward.
When we look at the election in the midterm, they supported, funded, and routed around these candidates that lost.
Meanwhile, Trump has a 92% winning rate with the candidates that he endorses.
So that tells me a pretty tale right there that's not too pleasant.
So yes, I agree with you.
It seems like McConnell, he specifically withheld funding from people like Blake Masters.
Yeah.
Who could have won and maybe did win.
I guess we'll never know, but he could have won.
We'll never know.
He conceded, but I wrote an article and put a post out today.
You know, Carrie Lake won that election.
So did Mark Fincham, by the way, for Secretary of State.
And for all I know, Blake Masters might have won too.
So I wish he would not have conceded.
Well, think about Oz versus Fetterman.
You know, Oz and Fetterman.
So Fetterman was getting funding from the FTX crypto scam, by the way.
Yes.
And so were a lot of Democrats, about $40 million.
And then the Republicans had a lot less funding.
I mean, look at Blake Masters.
He ran on, you know, a small, tiny fraction of what Mark Kelly had in Arizona.
I don't know the exact numbers, but it seems like it was only one-seventh or something like that.
And yet they were very competitive.
But with a little bit of extra funding, a lot of these races could have been achieved.
Well, in any case, you...
You know what I'm saying.
Let me ask you this.
Trump, the Trump question.
So Trump has announced that he's running.
Where do you stand on the dynamic right now, Trump?
And maybe could DeSantis challenge him for the nomination?
Sure.
So first of all, I'll be up front and totally transparent.
I think President Trump is the best president this republic has ever had.
I mean, I just believe that.
In spite of everything that he's faced in the context of current day, and we can look across the centuries to Washington up to Trump, I think he's been the most significant president we've had.
So having said that, he's the only person that can do this job.
I think Ron DeSantis is a rock star.
This is nothing against Ron DeSantis.
I think that Washington, D.C. would chew him up and spit him out.
Do you think Ron DeSantis could withstand the witch hunts, the persecutions, the fake impeachments and so forth?
I don't think that he's proven that he can do that.
Trump is the only man alive.
That would be able to withstand it.
And now, since this would be his second time coming in, he knows the game.
He won't go in, you know, cold, so to speak.
He'll know the game.
He's already revealed, and I think this might be the greatest of all of President Trump's contributions, he's already pulled back the curtain of the deep state and revealed it to us.
That, I think, is crucial.
He's done it.
He has shown us it's real, and he's shown us where it is and how it works and what it looks like.
I am going to go down to Mar-a-Lago on December 6th.
I'm going to have a meeting.
General Flynn and I are going down.
I'm going to make every case, I'm going to make this case as strong as I can to President Trump.
And I don't know how much of this is real or not, but I'm going to ask the question whether or not Trump really dislikes Ron DeSantis.
I don't know if that's You know, there's some out there that would speculate that that's a ploy to get people out that were disloyal to Trump or whatever, to see where they would land if they had to choose between Trump or DeSantis.
But I think a DeSantis, or I should say Trump first, a Trump-DeSantis ticket would be invincible.
Absolutely and utterly invincible.
Yeah, you're probably right about that.
We're after four years with Trump, of course.
But in the long game, we're after 12 years, Mike.
We want four with Trump, eight with DeSantis.
And then by that time, who knows?
DeSantis, you know, picks what?
Cary Lake or Kristi Noem or somebody.
That's what we're after.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, yeah.
Well, so what about...
I think one of the problems that Trump encountered in his first administration was that many of the people who were surrounding him were betraying the Trump agenda.
Oh, I agree completely.
That was his Achilles heel.
It befuddles me.
It just confounds me.
I don't know how somebody like Trump could have such a bad radar with regards to people who became disloyal to him.
Well, I think that he thought that A lot of loyalty would shift to him once he was accepted as president and that he would use those who knew the ropes of the system to get things done.
And I think that was just a mistake, an honest mistake.
My guess is that if Trump were to come back, he would bring his own crew this time.
Yeah, let's hope so.
That's a good idea.
I think you're on to something there.
I think that he should, and we'll see.
I'm all on board with Trump.
I'm all in with him.
Even in my private life, I can go up to the local restaurant and inevitably somebody will recognize me and we'll have a conversation.
There are still people out there who think that Trump is too divisive.
Even though they voted for him, They think that his rhetoric is too much, you know, the mean tweets and the personality.
And I continually have to talk them into the fact that, look, you know, for 23 years, Mike, before I started this show, I was in corporate human resources.
I was the top of the food chain in the human resource department for a major medical company.
Wow.
I would tell people all the time, they would come into the office in some form or fashion, well, she hurt my feelings, or he hurt my feelings, or they did this, and they did, and I would, these are adults.
And I'm going, wait a minute.
And I apply the same thing to President Trump.
When somebody else feels as if he's being too aggressive or being a bully, I'm going, you're telling me that Trump hurt your feelings with that?
And I go, yeah, I think so.
I go, do you realize that it's impossible for anybody to hurt your feelings?
What do you mean?
He said this.
I said, wait, what, what, what?
It's impossible for anybody to hurt your feelings unless you give them permission to.
Then they can't.
So stop it.
Don't let him.
He's running the country.
Look at what we've done.
Just look at the difference, Mike.
Energy independence versus the shutdown of a pipeline.
Gasoline prices up the roof.
Food prices.
Nobody can afford to eat anymore.
We've armed the Taliban better than any of our allies in the Middle East because of the debacle in Afghanistan.
Give me a break.
I can't fathom how anybody would vote for the Communist Socialist Party in America.
Well, I think a lot of people would right now agree to have mean tweets if gas were $1.99 a gallon again.
You know, it's like, well, you have to be able to afford food.
And the lockdowns really destroyed our supply chains and our economy in so many ways.
And those were local decisions made by Democrat governors and city councils at the local level.
Trump never locked anybody down.
He never did that.
So, I think in retrospect...
I think Trump would be more popular than ever.
But there's still the issue of vaccines.
That's definitely an issue that people raise with Trump and Operation Warp Speed.
And to my knowledge, he's just stopped talking about vaccines for a while.
So I have a story about now.
What I'm about to share with you is nothing that I heard firsthand.
This is secondhand information.
It was delivered.
I was at a party in Nashville, Tennessee with Devin Nunez, John Rich.
There was a few other.
Sarah Carter.
Oh, 20 or 40 or 50 other people there.
And this came up in a private conversation, not in the big group, but we were speculating.
And someone who was with Trump and Herschel Walker was in the crowd Trump asked a question.
Why is it that when I'm at these rallies and I bring up the vaccine, I get booed?
What's going on with that?
And the person that I was talking to, and I've mentioned his name in the group of names that I've just said, but I don't want to be too specific to protect...
His privacy looked at me and he said to the president, he said, do you want to know the truth, Mr.
President?
He goes, yes.
He goes, because the vaccine's killing people.
And so this person told him the story of what we know, but astonishingly, President Trump had not heard all of this.
And he goes, really?
And he asked the other person in the room with him, he goes, is this what you're hearing as well?
Yes, sir, it is.
It's the truth.
They talked about sudden death syndrome.
They talked about the way that they were using ivermectin or preventing it and using remdesivir and how that was killing people, etc., etc., etc.
So they told him, they gave him the Reader's Digest version of all of that, and he goes, wow.
Wow.
I'm never going to mention the vaccine again.
And he has not mentioned it in any of his rallies.
But doesn't that bring up another question, though?
How can Trump be in such a protected bubble?
I know.
I agree with you.
It blows my mind.
I don't know.
I do not know.
I know that the CEO of a corporation doesn't know everything in the company.
I know that.
The HR director, the HR vice president, I didn't know everything that was going on with regards to HR in the company.
I get that.
But the vaccine and all of its adverse side effects and the ingredients of it and the conversations I've had with Karen Kingston on my show and in the interviews that she's given and Dr.
Brian Artis and many others that have commented on all of this seems to me at least to be in my purview.
Every day I see this, but apparently it's not in President Trump.
So it is what it is, but we have to tell even President Trump has a learning curve about this.
Yeah, that's really interesting.
Well, but as far as you know, he's dead serious about running and winning in 2024.
He is absolutely so.
He and I talked about that in March of last year.
I asked him point blank, are you going to run again?
Now, in Trump, I call it Trumpian fashion, he didn't sit down and go, yeah, Doug, and here's the plan.
He looks at me and puts his hand on my shoulder and says, and I wish I could imitate President Trump, but I can't.
He said, I think you're going to be very happy.
And he winks at me and he gives me a high five.
And that, for me, was Trump saying, yes, I'm going to run again.
So he is going to run.
The election is the only way that we can get President Trump back.
We've got to endeavor to work hard in these next two years to root out these problems that we have.
I'm the eternal optimist.
I will always be hopeful.
I'm the one that believes in the midst of adversity, challenge, and tragedy, there are blessings waiting to be born.
So in all of this tragedy, in all of this adversity, in all of these challenges that we've faced since 2020, There are blessings that are being born, and we've talked about some of them tonight, school boards and critical race theory, local action and so forth and so on.
But there's much more that we have to do, Mike, and we can't become lackadaisical and we cannot give in to the temptation to give up.
Conservatives don't give up.
In fact, we march forward and we will endeavor.
We are products of the greatest generation.
Our grandparents, our parents in some cases, fought in World War II.
We know what it takes, and we know that we owe it to them in their memory and we owe it to our children and their prosperity to go forward.
And we will not relinquish our duty until we achieve what we need to do in this country with regards to not only election integrity, but reclaiming our republic to the founders' intent.
Oh, absolutely.
I feel that sense of duty, not only to our grandparents and so on, but all the soldiers who gave their lives on D-Day and in other conflicts and fighting for humanity through all the years.
We owe it to them.
And 19-year-old kids gave up their lives so that we might have an opportunity here.
Now, I can't believe how quickly this has gone.
Can you stay just a few more minutes?
Yeah, Mike, I'm great.
Yeah, I know.
Time flies.
It's amazing.
I'm good to go.
Okay, so let me point out that what I love about your message here is that it's very practical and it's positive.
So you're talking about the mechanism, and also your book covers this, Remaking the American Political System.
That's the title of your book.
But you talk about the mechanics of taking America back.
And importantly, you're not depending on a secret military plan, the Q movement, I don't know what it is, but talk about that.
There's that kind of subculture.
Well, I will.
Let me ask you, Mike.
Where do you stand on...
I'm just curious.
Let me turn the tables on you.
And I'll answer the question.
I think most people know where I stand.
Where do you stand personally in all of that?
Well, it's kind of cheating for me to say because I happen to know directly from people close to Trump that there is no secret plan to put Trump back into office.
It doesn't exist.
And they say that.
But...
They won't say it publicly, so people have to take my...
So I know there's not some super secret plan.
It's going to have to be done by hard work.
Absolutely.
Do you...
Do you know much about the Q movement and all of that and the things that they put for?
Enough, I suppose, because people keep texting me things like, oh, you should know about this, and there's 50,000 people just got executed at Gitmo last Saturday, and things like that.
I'm like, well, okay.
That's interesting.
I don't think it's happening, though.
Yeah.
I think that, look, we are all in this together.
I have never said, and I've always said on my show, there is no mechanism to bring President Trump back before 2024 Until he runs again.
That's the mechanism.
He's going to have to run and win again.
I've had Cash Patel on the program, talked with Devin Nunes, General Michael Flynn.
There is no mechanism to bring Trump back, even if we prove, and we have proven election fraud.
Don't get me wrong, ladies and gentlemen.
We have proven that.
If all of a sudden we wake up tomorrow and everybody knew, hey, wow, Trump really did win, there's no mechanism to bring him back.
There is nothing there that can bring him back into office.
And then people like Cash Patel would say, and people like Tracy Beans, who's an investigative journalist, would say, why would we want to put the country through that?
Now, some people say, well, because he won by God, and we were ripped off.
And again, it's that...
That anger of having something stolen from us, we want it back as soon as possible.
I get it.
So there's never been a mechanism to get Trump back.
Anybody that tells you that, God bless them.
We are on the same team.
Let's endeavor to work hard at our local level and elect him again and fix the fraud.
We've got to fix it.
We certainly do.
Nobody wants Trump back faster than me.
I can promise you that.
The Q thing, look, I posted that on Truth Social.
Devin Nunez agrees.
Dan Scavino agrees.
I want everybody to realize the people that believe in that, they have endeavored to do some really good things.
They've put a searchlight and a spotlight on the child sex trafficking issue.
I just don't think that there's these drops that mythically align with things that are going on now.
I saw one the other day where there's apparently a Q drop It mentioned accidental missile launch.
And then the guy put up next to it, hey, look, the Russians just accidentally shot missiles into Poland.
Q's real!
I mean, I just don't...
I just don't...
My brain doesn't work.
That does not prove anything.
It's a coincidence.
And, of course, there are escape patches.
Well, there are always no coincidences.
Everything happens for a reason and a purpose.
And President Trump's not going to tell Doug Billings anything, and neither is Devin Nunes, neither is Dan Scavino.
Billings doesn't know anything.
He's controlled opposition.
I get it all.
But I want to get along.
We are in this together.
When I say that, when I say what I say about Q, when I say what I do about Trump coming back early, which is not going to happen, I don't say that to be cruel and to be mean and to put people down for what they believe in.
The reason I say those things is because I believe we have to believe in real hope, not hopium, not the stuff that says enjoy the show and sit back and eat your popcorn.
Right.
That drives me crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, so I hope you're I hope that makes sense to you, Mike, in your audience, because I clearly the people that support Q, we need everybody to be involved in this.
But I will engage in what I view as reality.
Yeah, I hear you.
And, you know, it's interesting.
It's going to be interesting to read the audience feedback on this, too.
So, folks, you can post your comments, you know, beneath the video on Brighton, by the way.
But what I often hear is, If you don't believe in Q, then you're too pessimistic and you need to be an optimist, but optimism requires believing in the plan.
That kind of logic, which doesn't really add up to me, because I think what you're talking about, Doug, makes more sense.
We want to have optimism.
Let's roll up our sleeves, get to work, make it happen at the local level and all the way up from local to federal, and let's take this country back through a process that everybody recognizes.
Right on, Mike.
Look, there is no plan.
I mean this earnestly.
I mean this from the depths of my heart and my soul.
There is no plan to restore this republic except by we the people.
There is no military plan.
There never has been.
This republic is not meant, designed, or inspired to be run, led, and managed by the military.
No matter what we think.
Well, they have an oath to protect us.
It doesn't work that way, ladies and gentlemen.
It doesn't work that way.
The military is not going to swoop in and usher President Trump back in on chariots of fire back into the White House.
We, to Mike's point, we roll up our sleeves, we do exactly what we've been doing, Roughly since 2020, we conservatives are now awake and we know that we've got to get involved.
General Flynn has said this many times.
So have other people.
Kash Patel comes to mind.
It's we the people at the local level taking this republic back.
I believe...
Go ahead.
And to your point, by the way, let's say the military did get activated by white hats and arrested everybody in the Biden regime, put Trump in the Oval Office.
Folks, you know what would happen?
Barack Obama would appeal to the United Nations for international intervention saying that America had suffered a military coup takeover.
And then you'd have UN troops on the ground in America and civil war from the leftists.
Right?
The country would be burned to the ground.
Yeah, it would be terrible to do that to this republic.
It would be absolutely the wrong...
Look, we're conservatives.
I'll say it again.
We face these things, adversity, challenge, and tragedy head-on, ladies and gentlemen.
We face them head-on.
We don't depend on the military.
We don't depend on anybody else.
We, the people...
We do this work.
We are the ones called by God.
I happen to believe that God inspired the foundation of this republic, and he inspired our founding documents that are written by men.
I really do believe it.
And we're the ones that are intended to run, lead, and manage this republic.
We are the stewards of this republic, and we have got to begin to act like it, to get involved at the local level, to do the work of it all.
I call it determined patriotism on my show.
Right.
We meet in, it's the hard work of it all, determined patriotism.
We get involved.
Yeah, and also I think time is working in our favor here because the more suffering there is under the Biden regime, I call it, the higher food prices go, right?
And the more diesel scarcity kicks in and so on.
And all the layoffs that are beginning and will accelerate throughout the first quarter of next year and so on.
You know, sadly...
A lot of people learn through suffering, and they learn about mistakes.
They learn, oh, we're on the wrong path.
I can't afford my home.
I'm living on the streets.
I've lost my job.
This sucks.
What can we do to change this?
Things were better when Trump was in power, right?
That realization is hitting a lot of people.
Yeah, I posted just the other day on Truth Social.
I said, your life misses President Trump.
And we do.
Our lives were better, to your point.
You know, Mike, we look at our life.
We can look at any given, let's think of a tragedy or a challenge in one's life, divorce, or the death of a loved one, or something like that, where we feel absolutely scorched.
Our life has just been burnt out.
And I'm reminded of when I was a kid, I used to watch the Nature Channel a lot.
The volcanoes would always fascinate me, and I would see that lava, tons of lava just slowly creeping across the landscape.
And it would singe and burn and scorch everything in its path.
So we feel like that sometimes in our lives when we face challenges, adversity, and tragedies, that we've just been scorched and we don't see any way out, that everything is over.
But if you keep on watching that nature show, Mike, what you notice is when that lava cools, the life that grows from that lava is more fertile than what was there before.
And so it is with America, and so it is with our lives, ladies and gentlemen.
When we go through these challenges and adversities, we become better versions of ourselves.
We do.
That's just the nature of this wonderful, joyous, incredible life that God has given us.
And He wants us to experience every bit of We really do, Mike.
Well, I love your attitude and your optimism and the practicality of what you're mentioning here.
And I honestly believe it's going to be your kind of approach to this that's going to get us across the finish line.
And as far as I'm concerned, whether it's Trump or someone else, it definitely can't be a rhino.
But if it's somebody who's America first, someone willing to protect our border, Someone willing to allow America to tap into our resources that keep our economy running, then I'm all in favor of whoever that person is, as long as they're not a rhino or a globalist or a fascist or a communist, right?
Right on.
It could be all kinds of people, but maybe you're right.
Maybe Trump's the best candidate.
I guess we'll see.
It's coming up.
We'll see.
Yeah, I think that, you know, I think the GOP, I think the nomination is his.
I don't see, I just don't see the party giving it to anybody.
I think the people will have spoken and I think he's going to be the nominee.
But we'll see.
We will see.
As Trump says, let's see what happens.
I can't wait to see liberals' heads exploding when Trump wins a third time.
Oh my gosh.
I can't wait either, Mike.
And wasn't it great the other day when Elon Musk put him back on Twitter?
All these liberal heads.
Trump's not even going to go back to Twitter.
He's on Truth Social.
That's his platform.
But they're blowing up left and right over there.
I just think it's hilarious.
Well, and Kanye, now known as Ye, I think he said he's running as president in 2024.
So, for some reason, I don't think...
He will interfere much with Trump's run, but it'll be an interesting dynamic for sure.
Yeah, it will be.
Okay.
Well, Doug Billings, folks, and thank you, Doug, for joining us.
It's an honor and a pleasure.
And your website is DougBillings.us, and the book is Remaking the American Political System.
And can you remind us, when is your show on Brighteon.tv?
Yes, it's on Tuesday nights.
It's on at 7 o'clock Central Time on Tuesday nights on Brighteon.tv.
Okay, fantastic.
Well, thank you so much.
And just please reach out if there's anything, a message that you want us to get out.
We'll get you back on.
We'll do a story about it.
Just reach out and stand by after this interview so I can give you my contact.
Well, Mike, I sure will.
And I just got a note.
My son said, hey, it's Tuesdays at 6 o'clock, Dad.
I said, oh, thank you very much.
So got my son looking after me.
Tuesdays at 6 o'clock.
I think I said 7 o'clock Central.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, 6 o'clock Central.
Okay, perfect.
Yeah.
All right.
All right, Mike.
Hey, it's an honor for me to be here with you two and your audience.
And again, ladies and gentlemen, we are in this together.
God bless you all.
Well said.
And thank you all for listening.
And as usual, if you'd like to repost this interview on your own channels, feel free to do so.
Just give credit in your description to dougbillings.us.
So thank you for joining me.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.com.
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