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Sept. 14, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Situation Update, Sep 14, 2022 - Inflation explodes, markets crater as Biden's economy turns into a

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	Okay, welcome.
	It's a Situation Update for Wednesday, September 14th, 2022.
	And if you're wondering, do I have to spend any time preparing to do this podcast?
	The answer is no, because the insanity of the cosmos and, well, really what mankind is doing on this planet just hands me an endless list of insane, crazy topics to talk about.
	They just come to me, just fall out of the sky automatically.
	I don't even have to do anything.
	In fact, I just pick up my phone.
	Everybody's texting me all the craziness that's happening.
	And the crazy thing that happened in the last 24 hours, the really crazy thing, is Mike Lindell, his cell phone, was seized by the FBI. As he was in a drive-thru at Hardee's in Minnesota...
	Now, by the way, just as a side note, if my phone ever gets seized by the FBI... It would be more embarrassing to be caught in a Hardee's drive-thru than to have my phone taken, by the way.
	Like, if the health ranger had his phone seized at a drive-thru for McDonald's, the headline would be McDonald's, not the FBI. Oh, he was ordering a Big Mac, you know, on the down low, busted!
	That would be the only crime that I would have committed.
	But actually, I don't go through McDonald's drive-thrus.
	Haven't had a Big Mac for decades, so that would never happen.
	But you get my point.
	Nevertheless, he was at a drive-thru in Minnesota at a Hardee's and FBI surrounded his car with other cars and then they demanded his phone.
	And it's pretty crazy because the FBI has been seizing all the phones of various, I don't know, 40 or 50 kind of Trump-linked individuals.
	And for a lot of these people, it's got nothing to do with January 6th or anything like that.
	I mean, Mike Lindell wasn't there on January 6th.
	Now, Mike Lindell was on with Brandon Howe's Worldview Report.
	And I've texted Brandon to try to find out if there's any more details on this, kind of waiting to see if he's got anything else that they're ready to share yet.
	But according to Mike Lindell, his phone was seized because the FBI wants Mike to be a witness in the Tina Peters case.
	I don't know what the Tina Peters case is.
	Probably pretty easy to find online.
	It's not something that I've been covering.
	Mike Lindell said to Brannon, he says, quote, I can't even imagine that you can take someone's phone because they want me to be a witness in the Tina Peters case, but I'm not a witness.
	They just want my phone.
	And so they just took his phone, which should be obviously illegal, but they had some warrant, obviously rubber stamped by some, you know, probably Obama judge or a Clinton judge who just said, yeah, take his phone.
	Now, if you've ever spent any time around Mike Lindell, Not only is he an unlimited source of energy, like if you really want to power the world with renewable energy, find out a way to tap into Mike Lindell's energy generators because he never runs out of energy, okay?
	But the other thing is, you know this if you're around him, his phone is going bonkers all the time.
	Mike Lindell runs his multiple businesses off his phone.
	He doesn't do email.
	He doesn't carry around a laptop.
	He doesn't get on desktop computers.
	He runs everything off his phone.
	And his contact list is probably like 5,000 people.
	And so I've interviewed Mike in person.
	I've met him in person.
	I've been there when he's speaking and things like that.
	And his phone's just going crazy all the time.
	So if the FBI got Mike Lindell's phone, number one, they're either going to have to turn it off or be interrupted every 25 seconds with somebody texting Mike Lindell.
	Just so you know.
	It's going to be difficult for the FBI to parse all that stuff, especially when everybody hears about Mike Lindell.
	Having his phone taken.
	And then they start texting Mike Lindell.
	Hey, Mike, I heard your phone was taken.
	Not remembering that, well, the phone is now held by the FBI. So all those texts are going to the FBI. Right?
	That's happening.
	But bottom line, folks, this is just another form of intimidation is what this looks like.
	The weaponization of the FBI and the DOJ just to try to harass and intimidate everybody.
	Right?
	And take their phones.
	And, you know, I was thinking, why do they need his phone if they could just get his phone records?
	Because, of course, they record everything that you text somebody on your phone.
	You know, the phone companies, they could just subpoena the phone companies.
	They could get all that information, right?
	Yeah.
	So they don't need to take somebody's phone in order to find out who you called, how many minutes you placed the call for, or who you texted, or what you even said in the text.
	They've got access to all that.
	Well, because, you know, we're living under a police state ever since 9-11 and the Patriot Act and all that.
	It's just totally illegal surveillance on the American people constantly in violation of the Fourth Amendment and probably the 14th Amendment as well and other things.
	But They want his phone because they want his contacts.
	They want his contacts, you see.
	They want to know who is in Mike Lindell's contact list.
	And I'm thinking that since Well, the whole world is about to get flipped upside down.
	I mean, CNN hosts are being fired.
	I think that all these FBI agents who know that the agency is going to get shut down as the truth comes out, I think they're trying to start their own pillow company, and they want to know where Mike Lindell gets his pillow stuffing.
	That's what this is all about.
	It's a Mike Lindell pillow stuffing witch hunt carried out by the FBI. They're like, where does this guy get all that stuffing?
	So inexpensively, how can he sell these pillows at such a discount?
	That's what this is all about.
	This is about stealing Mike Lindell's Rolodex to set up an FBI or former FBI pillow company.
	And being that it's former FBI agents, it won't be a voluntary, you know, transaction to get their pillows.
	It won't be called my pillow or your pillow.
	It'll be called get our pillows or else.
	They'll send agents out across America to knock on your door with warrants saying, you must buy our pillows or you will be hauled into court.
	I know, pretty wild.
	By the way, Mike Lindell, his team, I've heard, is setting up a Brighton.com account.
	So expect to see Mike Lindell videos pretty soon on Brighton.com.
	We welcome his, I don't know, his marketing team or his public relations team, whatever they are.
	Go ahead, post all the videos you'd like on Brighteon.com and welcome that.
	I'd also like to mention, Dr.
	Joseph Mercola has joined Brighteon.social.
	And we welcome Dr.
	Mercola's content.
	He's always such a professional with his content.
	Very compelling content.
	Always well done.
	And he's been putting a lot of posts on Brighttown Socials.
	So thumbs up to the Dr.
	Mercola team.
	And I'm not ready to release all this yet.
	Don't want to get anybody in trouble.
	But let's just say that some exciting new people that are going to become new governors across America...
	Are going to be taking advantage of the free speech platform of Brighteon.com to help communicate with their supporters and voters.
	It's a very exciting time to be part of the new media where we get to support free speech and allow all these people to use the platform.
	Although Mike Lindell is going to have a hard time posting his content since they took his phone.
	But I'm sure he can afford another one.
	He'll get a replacement phone soon.
	I would also say, hey, Mike Lindell, get yourself a de-Googled phone, by the way.
	And it makes it harder for the FBI to find out that you're at a Hardee's.
	Just saying.
	Get a de-Googled phone.
	That's the way to go.
	With the Graphene OS operating system there, For Android devices, that's what you want to look for.
	Graphene OS. I mean, yeah, you don't want graphene in your blood or in your vaccines, but you do want graphene on your phone because it takes Google out of the picture and then your phone isn't constantly spying on you by sending your location to Google every 12 seconds or whatever it does.
	Anyway, pretty interesting day so far.
	Going to get a lot more interesting.
	But, you know, Mike Lindell was on a hunting trip.
	So he was trying to get into the great outdoors and go out with a friend and kind of unwind.
	I guess that didn't happen.
	And I live in the country, so I unwind every day at some level.
	And I take my dogs and my goats for a walk.
	And they find random things on random days because it really is way out in the boonies, so to speak.
	And today, one of my dogs, my newer puppy, the one that was snoring yesterday, She locates a deer skull.
	Because, you know, deer die of natural causes in old age or whatever.
	You know, deer die all the time out there in the wild.
	And depending on when they die, like during the day or the night, if they die during the day, then the vulture birds usually get them first and they peck away all the flesh, leaving behind bones.
	And then that night, the coyotes come in.
	They smell what's going on.
	The coyotes get the bones and break them open and get the bone marrow and everything.
	And then by the next day, it's mostly just skull and bones, right?
	With a pretty nasty smell that goes along with it.
	That in the case of a deer skull is, you know, rotten deer brains, basically.
	And so my puppy goes, rotten deer brains?
	I'm like, jackpot!
	This is awesome!
	And she picks up the skull.
	She wants to carry it on the entire walk.
	She wants to set it down and pretend that she's guarding it.
	Like, I dare anybody to take the rotten deer brains from me.
	These are my rotten deer brains.
	Like, everything was about mine, mine, mine.
	And so I had to smell the stinky rotten deer brain skull on the entire walk because my puppy thinks that that's the most awesome thing that you could find out in nature.
	It was disgusting.
	But remember, these dogs eat donkey poo, so this might be a step up from that.
	I don't know.
	Are rotten deer brains?
	I guess you could call them probiotics in a weird way.
	Raw living food!
	Well, once living.
	She thought it was awesome.
	I thought it was nasty.
	And of course, she drags this thing, you know, back up to the house and then sets it down like, I'm gonna play with the rotten deer brains for days, you know?
	Oh, great.
	And now you got rotten deer brain breath also comes up, trying to lick my hand.
	I'm like, I'll get your rotten deer brain breath away from me.
	That is just nasty.
	Oh, man, I love dogs.
	I love them.
	You know, they're wonderful animals, but...
	Sometimes they drag in the crazier stuff.
	And those of you who own cats, by the way, you know cats will drag in even crazier stuff like, oh, here's half a field rat, you know, with entrails still clinging on and so on.
	Oh, here's a bloody, you know, part of a muskrat or whatever, like weird animals and things they drag in.
	At least my dogs are only dragging in already dead bones and parts of animals.
	And they'll pick up big bones, too.
	Like, how are you carrying that?
	That is a giant leg chunk right there.
	It's incredible.
	Okay, change in the topic.
	The interview for today's podcast you're going to love.
	It's Dr.
	Samantha Bailey.
	She's the author of a book called Virus Mania.
	That is quite exceptional, by the way.
	There's an audiobook version at audible.com also.
	And the full title of this book is Virus Mania, Corona slash COVID-19, Measles, Swine Flu, Cervical Cancer, Avian Flu, SARS, BSE, Hepatitis C. Yes, this is still all the title.
	AIDS, Polio, Spanish Flu, How the Medical...
	What is this?
	How the Medical Industry...
	It's the longest title ever in the history of books, but it's a very compelling book.
	We're going to have her on to ask her all kinds of fascinating questions.
	So that is straight ahead.
	Stay tuned for that one.
	You won't want to miss it.
	I also want to mention, it is rumored that Mr.
	Gonzalo Lira is going to be joining us for tomorrow's podcast.
	Now that is of course, if the electricity is working in Ukraine and if the, uh, well, bandwidth has to be working and so on.
	But, uh, Gonzalo Lira has accepted our invitation.
	We're going to get his take on what is happening between Russia and Ukraine and the, uh, counter assault and, Is Russia now losing the war?
	Are they losing?
	Have they been destroyed?
	Is the West going to now push Russia all the way back to Moscow?
	Because according to the Western media, that's what's happening.
	So we're going to find out that tomorrow.
	Don't miss that with Mr.
	Gonzalo Lira.
	Again, if he's available.
	And then the following day, we're going to feature a European economist that we've never interviewed before.
	This is a brand new person, fascinating person.
	And we're going to find out his take on what's happening with the European economy, the euro currency, the energy crisis, the deindustrialization of Europe, and so much more.
	Yeah, if you thought rotten deer brains was fascinating and horrifying, wait till you hear my interview with this economist.
	And that will be posted late Friday morning on brighteon.com.
	Yeah, it's going to be fascinating and also a little bit horrifying.
	Okay, and now that I'm glancing at my schedule, I think I just, I think I switched those days.
	I think Gonzalo is going to be on Friday morning, or Friday's podcast, and I think The Economist is tomorrow's podcast.
	So, one or the other.
	We will find out.
	Maybe they've been trading places quietly, but we'll see.
	We're going to get them on one way or another, one day or another as well.
	I also want to give a shout out to the Silver Symposium folks out there.
	Love your work.
	Love what you do.
	I got some positive feedback from some of your team members about my recent interview with David Morgan.
	And apparently, you know, people in the silver industry are really appreciating what I'm saying about silver and gold.
	And, you know, I'm interviewing people like John Perez from time to time.
	I've interviewed Bill Holter and Andy Schechtman and some other folks.
	And, of course, David Morgan, the silver guru.
	And, you know, I got some interesting feedback, very positive feedback.
	People were like, this is great that you're talking about this.
	And my reply was, how can I not talk about...
	I think that I'm just saying common sense.
	Common sense, intrinsic value, you know...
	Storing assets in something that's physical, that's under your control, something that has outlasted the rise and fall of every civilization that we know of in human history, something that's based on the table of elements that has existed in the cosmos even before the invention of human civilization or even humanity itself.
	How could you go wrong?
	It's been around forever.
	We're nearly forever.
	Again, the early days of the universe, according to mainstream cosmology, was all hydrogen.
	And then it got heavier and heavier with fusion, you know, exploding stars and so on and became helium.
	And then, you know, you get carbon and you get oxygen, you get nitrogen and the heavier elements and eventually you get aluminum and whatever.
	And then at some point you get silver.
	Well, anyway, that's according to mainstream science.
	But the silver has been around, according to them, billions of years.
	So it's not going anywhere.
	And I'm just saying it makes, it seems like common sense to me that silver, it's real money.
	What can I say?
	It's real money.
	And we got to get Mike Maloney on here too at some point.
	Is that Malone or is it Maloney?
	I think it's Maloney.
	We got to get him on.
	But I hear he's real busy lately because he's always working on stuff.
	Anyway, silver is money.
	Gold is money.
	Paper is just currency.
	It's not even in the same category.
	Oh, and by the way, today's show is sponsored by a gold and silver company, which I'll mention later.
	But I'm just happy to support the entire industry of people who are experts in precious metals and gold and silver and so on because, frankly, everybody that's got metals has a good chance of getting through what we are beginning to experience now because it's going to be economically devastating.
	So moving on to finance issues, remember when Biden and Kamala said there was zero inflation in July, zero inflation, and now the new CPI numbers are It just got released yesterday, and they are disastrous.
	8.3% is the official level of inflation year over year.
	And of course, if that's the official number, you know the unofficial number is at least double that and probably even higher considering housing and food and fuel and the things that aren't really counted in the official numbers.
	So they're saying 8.3%.
	It was much higher than what most people anticipated or economists thought.
	And that's why the market really plummeted yesterday.
	And by the way, think about what this means for the coming rate hike by the Fed.
	So there's a lot of speculation now that, well, because of these inflation numbers, the Fed is going to have to get more aggressive at fighting inflation.
	And the way that the Fed is going to do that is to raise the interbank lending interest rates, which is what they control.
	They're going to raise them By at least 75 basis points next week, by the way, which is.75%.
	And it's looking more likely now that it's going to be 100 basis points.
	So that's a 1% rate increase that is anticipated.
	And more rate increases yet to come later this year.
	So People are freaking out.
	People in the finance sectors are freaking out over the market drops and a lot of tech companies losing billions of dollars in one day.
	And then the coming interest rate hikes that are, of course, going to devastate, well, anything based on a lot of debt.
	So number one is going to devastate housing in the United States, which is already beginning to turn down quite rapidly.
	I mean, home loans have just plummeted, the number of them, the origination of loans plummeted in the last several months.
	And, of course, I've talked about the automobile debt industry, and a lot of people have car loans they can't afford.
	Or if they're going to try to buy cars right now, and they need to get a loan on that car, well, those loans are about to become much more expensive after the Fed rate hikes.
	So remember what I've said these past few days.
	If you're looking to buy a car, and you can wait a couple more months, just hold your horses.
	Because cars are going to become suddenly widely available, that is, slightly used vehicles, as people default on their loans and there's a lot of repossessions.
	So there's going to be a lot of repo vehicles and trucks, by the way, available by the end of this year, maybe a little bit sooner.
	So just hold out for that, and if you can buy with cash, you're going to get some great deals coming up.
	But housing prices are going to continue to collapse because a lot of the housing market was, of course, just a debt-based bubble.
	It was based on the availability of cheap money or even in some cases almost free money.
	And inflation is now colliding with money printing, which causes devaluation of the dollar.
	So at the same time that inflation is getting so much worse in things like food and energy, for example, and clothing and so on, your dollars are becoming worth less and less.
	And this is accelerating.
	Now, if you go to usdebtclock.org, which is a fascinating website, you should check it out every once in a while, you will find that the U.S. national debt is rapidly approaching $31 trillion.
	$31 trillion.
	I almost can't believe it.
	Now, by the way, if you're wondering about the history of debt in the United States, and this is taking us into a parabolic blowout phase of the end of the dollar, by the way.
	But an easy way to remember the history of debt in America is roughly in 2008, when Obama got elected, we were at $8 trillion in debt.
	And then in 2016, we were roughly at $16 trillion in debt.
	So you can just remember the year, that's how much debt we had at that time.
	And then from 2016 to 2020, Trump kind of increased that, and plus there was the COVID bailouts that began in 2020.
	So we went beyond $20 trillion in debt, started to really accelerate, and then here we are in 2022 under the Biden regime at $31 trillion in debt.
	So, you know, Obama was roughly adding a trillion dollars a year in debt, but now under Biden, It's getting closer to a trillion dollars every few months.
	And pretty soon it's going to be a trillion a month.
	No, seriously.
	And it'll be a billion dollars a week to Ukraine until that situation implodes.
	Maybe a billion dollars a day.
	What does it matter when they're just printing the money?
	But we are almost at 31 trillion dollars in debt.
	Now that comes out to almost a quarter of a million dollars per taxpayer.
	So if you pay taxes in America, you're on the hook for another $245,000 on top of what you already pay.
	Now the question is, how is any of this sustainable?
	And the answer is, oh, it isn't.
	No, no, this whole system is going to come down.
	And if you watch usdebtclock.org, you can actually see it happen in real time.
	It's quite astonishing.
	The numbers are just ticking by.
	You know, the future of America is just counting down as the debt keeps counting up.
	And the only way to avoid getting wiped out by this phenomenon is, of course, to convert dollars into something that is real and something that is physical, something that can survive the collapse of the banks.
	Now, the obvious choice is gold and silver, you know, physical gold and silver in your hands.
	But there are other choices as well.
	We've talked about them before, vehicles, ammunition, firearms, land, or even owning businesses or owning hotels if you have enough money for that.
	But then there's the risk of the hotel business collapsing, which is probably coming.
	That's why land is such a good choice because it doesn't require much, typically just raw land.
	You might have to pay property taxes on it.
	But aside from that, there's not much to worry about.
	Whereas if you have a home, if you own homes and you have renters, you have to worry about, hey, can those renters afford to pay the rent?
	Or you have to worry about the CDC coming along as they did before and saying, oh, you're not allowed to evict anyone even if they don't pay rent.
	Like, hey, we're the CDC. We just converted all your renters into squatters and there's nothing you can do about it.
	That was the law for, what, a year and a half?
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure that people who bought homes as an investment to rent them out to other people weren't figuring, oh, and the government might tell me I can never collect rent again or that the renters don't have to pay rent is a more accurate way to say that.
	Anyway, as all of this is happening, of course, the strategic oil reserves of the United States are being totally wiped out by the Biden regime that is pumping all that oil into our current supply chain to try to keep gas prices low before the midterm elections.
	As a result, we have virtually no remaining strategic oil reserves by the time we get to Election Day.
	And on top of that, Biden and the Pentagon have been shipping America's munitions and weapons and artillery systems over to Ukraine, where they were part of the recent counteroffensive.
	But most of the equipment gets blown up in transit, it turns out.
	So thanks to the depletion of the strategic oil reserves and sending all our anti-tank weapons and munitions and javelins and everything else and drones over to Ukraine, America is sitting here with, you know, almost no military ammo, America is sitting here with, you know, almost no military ammo, almost no strategic oil reserves as a
	And America is plunging into so much poverty that the Pentagon is out there telling soldiers that you should go on food stamps if you can't afford to eat.
	You just get on food stamps.
	Yeah, you're a soldier and you've got to apply for food stamps.
	Whereas America's taxpayer money is being sent to Ukraine by the billions every week now.
	And then vanishing into some deep, dark, twisted black hole over there with Zelensky's name on it.
	It's like a portal that sucks money out of this universe and sends it to the Zelensky universe, wherever that is, while America's soldiers are going hungry, while America's border is wide open, while America's oil is being completely drained and in some cases sold off to China, while America's military is being totally depleted of its ammunition, including artillery ammunition, anti-tank weapons, surface-to-air missiles, and all kinds of things.
	Folks, do the math on this.
	Where do you think this is going?
	And then coming up Friday, we have potentially a nationwide rail strike.
	And if the trains stop running, although I'm hoping that will be averted, but if the trains stop running, how does anybody deliver grain or coal or fertilizer or oil?
	I mean, the economy shuts down, does it not?
	Without rail?
	You can't just hire trucks to do the whole thing.
	I mean, the rail infrastructure serves a critical role for a functioning civilization.
	So folks, if there were ever a time to look at gold and silver...
	Oh my goodness.
	This is the time.
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	My disclaimer is, well, two things.
	Number one, I don't earn commissions on anything.
	You can reach them, though, at metalswithmike.com.
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	Secondly, the other disclaimer is you've got to decide what's right for you.
	Talk to your financial advisors.
	Pray to God.
	Do what's right for you.
	Some people, maybe it's not the right time because they're about to move or something.
	They don't want to take a bunch of silver with them.
	Maybe you want to get silver after you moved.
	That's fine.
	But I believe that for people who want to preserve assets, physical metals have to be a critical component.
	I believe that.
	I practice that.
	I teach that to everybody because I can't think of any other asset in the world that doesn't have counterparty risk.
	So even if you have a big, fat bank account, oh, look at all this moolah.
	Well, the bank can fail, and then your moolah just vanishes, right?
	Or you have all this money saved in dollars somewhere, even cash dollars, and then the dollar collapses.
	Oh, well...
	Gosh, what use is the cash now?
	Or almost anything.
	You have stocks?
	Well, what is a stock?
	Oh, you probably don't even have a piece of paper, by the way.
	You have an electronic record of partial ownership of a corporation that promises to pay you some dividends and that you can buy or sell or trade this portion of ownership as long as the electronic system is working and the database hasn't been hacked yet.
	And Wall Street's functional, the power grid's working, and so on, and the corporation isn't committing fraud, and so on and so forth.
	There's a lot of ifs.
	There's a lot of risk in that.
	If you have silver coins in your hand, there's no risk.
	It's like, ah, it's silver.
	It's in my hand.
	I got it.
	I can use it.
	I can trade it.
	Right?
	It's going to stay here.
	It's not going to vanish.
	Like, even if the power grid goes down, silver's still there.
	So another reason to own physical gold and silver.
	Now, another reason to have something that's real is because, well, I don't trust the banking system to be viable much longer.
	I really don't.
	If you look at what's happening in Europe, so there's this leaked paper that talks about UK cops are preparing for, quote, greater civil unrest this winter.
	Similar to the 2011 riots.
	This came out of the Times in the UK. And this is a paper to law enforcement in the UK. And it says, Greater financial vulnerability may expose some staff to a higher risk of corruption, especially among those who fall into significant debt or financial difficulties.
	When they say corruption, I think they're talking about, you know, frustration.
	And they warn that, quote, prolonged and painful economic pressure could spark, quote, greater civil unrest.
	So, yeah, they're kind of getting the picture of what's about to happen in the UK this winter.
	And now the website Remix, which is really rmx.news, by the way, says 6 in 10 UK manufacturers at risk of closure.
	Lobby group warns as energy prices soar.
	So we're talking about almost 60% of manufacturing companies in the UK could shut down.
	I mean, it's just shocking.
	60%.
	That's beyond an economic collapse.
	That's worse than the Great Depression.
	I mean, again, that's World War II level decimation of the economy.
	And remember what we covered yesterday, that warning from the metals group?
	They said that Europe is facing, quote, permanent deindustrialization.
	Yeah, the word permanent deserves special attention there.
	That means it's never coming back.
	If you lose the steel mills and the aluminum smelting operations and all the heavy industry, the manufacturing, automobiles, tech, everything, you're not getting it back.
	Permanent deindustrialization.
	Well, what do you think the counterparty risk is going to be among American banks or, let's say, Canadian banks who have loaned money to European companies or invested in European companies?
	Or just have assets in European banks, for that matter, or the European Central Bank.
	If Europe craters economically, then that default wave spreads everywhere around the world because it's all interconnected.
	Can America or can the American financial system handle a wave of European defaults that we know is coming?
	I mean, is the American financial system so strong and so robust and resilient right now that it can take a major hit and continue to stand because, you know, everybody's so conservative and not leveraged and everybody's rich with cash and backup plans and buffers and so on?
	No!
	No!
	The American financial system is a giant, fraudulent Ponzi scheme.
	Massive money printing, massive debt.
	You know, stock prices propped up by the Fed buying stocks.
	The Fed is buying the stock market, folks.
	It's all manipulated.
	It's not even real anymore.
	You know, watch Gregory Manorino.
	His videos are on brighteon.com.
	He gives a morning update and an aftermarket closing update each day.
	They're about 10 minutes each, roughly.
	And Manorino has just been nailing it, telling it like it is.
	It's all rigged.
	It's all faint.
	If you're playing in the stock market right now, by the way, you're playing a very dangerous game of Wall Street roulette.
	And one of these days soon, that chamber is going to be loaded and your assets are going to be blown away by a pull of the trigger, whatever that trigger may be.
	Which, as we know, Biden and the globalists are trying to get Putin to pull the trigger.
	They want Putin to launch nuclear weapons against the United States and Western Europe.
	And then it's, as I say, global force majeure.
	All bets are off.
	At that point, it's like, well, there is no financial system functioning.
	So that means that all the obligations that you are owed, which includes your bank accounts, by the way, You know, you don't own the money that goes into the bank in your name.
	You become a creditor of the bank.
	The bank just owes you that.
	You're just on the list of creditors at that point.
	I mean, that's the way it is now, but as the banking system craters, you think you're going to get that money?
	You think you're going to get an insurance payout if the insurance industry is bankrupt because the currency has collapsed because there's a world war?
	You think you're going to get a pension check from the federal government that's broke, that's gone in many ways?
	No, seriously.
	Do you think if you work for the state of Illinois, do you think the government of Illinois is going to pay you your state worker pension check?
	No.
	Not a chance.
	Get out of Illinois while you can.
	And other states like that, California and Washington State and New York State and so on.
	But All these obligations that people are owed.
	I mean, contracts.
	Maybe you made a down payment on having a house built, and then there's World War III. Can the builder complete the house?
	No.
	You're going to get your money back?
	No.
	The builder already spent it on wood and electrical work or whatever on materials.
	You might have paid 50% down on that house, and it's a pile of materials on the lot.
	Maybe with a concrete foundation, and that's it.
	The money's been spent already.
	You're not getting it back.
	Nobody's getting it back.
	Everything gets nullified under these circumstances, force majeure.
	Everything that has counterparty risk fails and ends up having near zero value, maybe five cents on the dollar or something.
	But in that scenario, gold and silver skyrocket.
	They shine.
	And anything else that has real value, anything that's not leveraged, anything that wasn't electronic.
	And I'm not sure what crypto would do in that scenario, but I imagine for some time, I would think that if the power grid is functioning, I would think that Bitcoin could do very well during that time, actually, because, well, if the main fiat currency becomes useless, everybody in the world is going to be looking for a way to engage in transactions.
	If the power grid's working, You know, cryptocurrency is going to step into that role in some way, and the central banks will roll out their central bank digital currencies, the CBDCs, and they'll say, oh, you've got to use our system, which any informed person will say, no, go pound sand.
	We're not going to sign up for your Mark of the Beast system.
	We'll use, you know, Bitcoin or something else.
	So then the governments will outlaw Bitcoin, right?
	You know that's coming, but people are going to use it anyway.
	Because how do you stop something that's completely decentralized, right?
	I mean, governments can't really stop cryptocurrency.
	They can segment it.
	They can threaten people.
	They can use a lot of coercion, but they can't actually halt the operations because they're so widely distributed.
	The whole world, at least the Western world, is addicted to debt.
	They're addicted to free money, addicted to money printing.
	They're addicted to debt.
	I mean, just look at the U.S. debt clock.
	That is a massive clinical addiction to debt.
	And the thing is, the United States of America and much of Western civilization, kind of like a heroin junkie, You know how this ends, right?
	It ends in an overdose and a blowout and a code blue, and that's it.
	The patient's gone.
	That's exactly where this is going.
	Oh, and that reminds me, by the way, of my friends in the anti-addiction business, Crave Kicker.
	Let me tell you about that.
	They've made some improvements.
	Just a second.
	Based on reader feedback, by the way, we're about to jump into an interview with Dr.
	Sam Bailey, who's the author of the book Virus Mania.
	And I kind of suspect this interview is not going to be very short because listening to the book, I know that Dr.
	Bailey has a tremendous amount of information.
	So I'm going to kind of wrap up this whole section of the podcast and just end it with that interview because I don't know how long it's going to go.
	But let me just say our friends over at CraveKicker.com, that's spelled with a K, K-R-A-V-E, CraveKicker.com, they've got the little liquid shots with Mukuna in it that helps people quit nicotine addiction or quit vaping addiction or even quit sugar addictions.
	There was some reader feedback.
	There was a production lot that they had where the manufacturer couldn't get the methylcobalamin of B12, and so they used the form that they could get, which was the cyanocobalamin.
	Well, that's been corrected.
	So all the batches are now methylcobalamin, which is the high-end, more bioavailable form of B12.
	They've also doubled the Mukuna, which is the herb that is sort of the functional herb in that formula, and they have a satisfaction guarantee on all purchases on their website.
	They're not a sponsor.
	They're not paying me for this.
	I know they're trying to help people with addictions.
	They did extend a discount.
	The discount code is RANGER.
	It gives you 10% off, and the website is CraveKicker.com.
	Again, double the Mukuna.
	B12 is now methylcobalamin, and they have a satisfaction guarantee.
	If you have any issues or you're not satisfied with this product, you can return it for a full refund, and some of those improvements were based on reader feedback, so thank you for participating in that.
	We do like to promote companies that offer good solutions, even when they're not sponsors.
	Remember I've mentioned parbikes.com?
	Because they have these, the tubeless tires quadricycles that are great human-powered vehicles.
	And, you know, they're a really small company.
	They don't have any kind of budget for promotion, but I'm a customer of theirs.
	I love their products, so, you know, they gave us a little discount to pass along that I mentioned from time to time.
	But there are several companies that I plug just because of that, because they just have great solutions for people.
	Another example of that is Sogo Snacks.
	S-O-G-O, SogoSnacks.com.
	Again, never been a sponsor, but they've offered discounts, and I think they have a great product.
	It's a meat.
	They have different kind of smoked meats, and they have such a hard time with supply because of the whole supply chain issue.
	I don't even know if they have anything, frankly.
	But every once in a while, they'll let us know when they have inventory, and then I'll mention it.
	This is not one of those times, so maybe I shouldn't mention it.
	But I like to support American companies that are doing, you know, really amazing stuff.
	Like DawsonKnives.com, right?
	They are a sponsor.
	But I mention them a lot.
	You know, no charge or anything.
	Just helping to spread the word because they're an American company.
	They make really great knives.
	And, oh, they do have a discount coming up.
	I'll probably mention the discount code tomorrow.
	And it'll probably be the code Ranger, by the way.
	Because I've asked everybody to use Ranger.
	So it's all the same code.
	Anyway, probably starting tomorrow, you can go to DawsonKnives.com and use the code Ranger.
	You're going to get some good discount on some of the knives they have available.
	Whatever.
	I'm sorry to get carried away with this.
	I just want to explain my philosophy on who I'm willing to help or to help plug or publicize or what have you.
	And they return the favor by offering discounts to our audience here.
	You know what we need, by the way?
	We need an ammunition company to offer a 10% discount, but none of them will do that because they can't keep anything in stock.
	So there's no ammo company in America that is short on orders because everybody's stocking up, right?
	So true.
	All right, with that said, we're going to jump into the interview with Dr.
	Sam Bailey, which I think you will greatly enjoy.
	And I'm going to sign off.
	And wish you a blessed day.
	Hope things go well for you today.
	Thank you for all your support.
	Oh, one more thing.
	We have organic raw cashews at the Health Ranger store that are tested for aflatoxins and everything else.
	So raw cashews are very difficult to get right now.
	Very difficult, especially to get them non-fumigated, non-irradiated, and tested for aflatoxins, and organic, and heavy metals tested.
	I mean, come on.
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	Just warning you in advance that.
	I mean, the prices we're being charged on these kinds of things, raw organic cashews, it's gone up, I don't know, what is it, 60%, 70%, something like that in the last year.
	It's out of control.
	So they're not cheap, but we got them.
	For a little while, supplies won't last that long, but if you love raw organic cashews and you don't want aflatoxins, folks, if you don't know about aflatoxins, get informed about that.
	This is why we test all the nuts and seeds that we sell for aflatoxins.
	These are toxins that are toxic, deadly chemicals produced by fungi.
	And the fungi gets on these foods.
	It can infect wheat crops and corn and oats and all kinds of things.
	And afotoxin is the number one source of death of ranch animals because they're eating contaminated feed.
	Because the feed sits in a hot, humid environment and it grows the fungi, which produces the toxins, which kills the animals.
	Okay, that is a fact.
	Look it up.
	It's quite horrifying.
	So a lot of the peanuts out there in the marketplace...
	And some peanut butter products are contaminated with aflatoxins.
	And the same is true for other kinds of nuts.
	So we've been testing these actually for quite some time.
	I just want you to know it's another safety issue that we take seriously.
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	Alright, that said, healthrangerstore.com if you want some of those delicious raw cashews.
	Although my dogs would rather eat like, you know, rotten deer brains.
	Like, okay, you know, you eat the rotten deer brains.
	I'm going to have instead these raw delicious cashews, you know, to each his own.
	Alright, here we go into the interview.
	Welcome to this interview today.
	Mike Adams here.
	We're joined by a new guest, an extraordinary woman who has authored a book called Virus Mania.
	Her name is Dr.
	Samantha Bailey.
	She joins us from halfway around the world, from New Zealand.
	You've got to check out this book and her website, which is drsambailey.com.
	She's been a medical doctor for 16 years and she is making waves by asking big questions about the whole thing, all the epidemics and all the pharma push and the fear-mongering about everything.
	Polio, Spanish flu, hepatitis, avian flu, you name it.
	She joins us today to talk about these topics and to answer some tough questions as well.
	So, Dr.
	Bailey, it's an honor to have you on.
	Thank you for joining me today.
	Thank you so much, Mike.
	And please just call me Sam.
	I'm a humble Kiwi girl.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'll call you Sam or Dr.
	Sam.
	Which way?
	Sam's fine.
	Okay, Sam.
	That's what my friends call me.
	Okay.
	Well, Sam, first of all, I was so impressed by your book.
	I like to listen to audiobooks when I'm working on my ranch, and so I'm always checking out interesting books.
	I forgot even who recommended this to me, but somebody told me, I've got to hear your book.
	So I got it as an audio version, I think, on audible.com.
	Which is an Amazon company, but whatever.
	I downloaded the book, started listening.
	I was blown away.
	You were getting into so much detail.
	Just for our audience, though, tell us an overview, if you could.
	What is Virus Mania?
	What's the main premise of the book to start with?
	Yeah, so virus malaria is really about this idea that COVID-19 and other pandemics don't just happen, that it's not an accident, that there's a lot behind the scenes of corruption, the collusion between big government,
	big pharma, industry, medical doctors, and these pandemics are in some ways crafted and it goes through from the beginning so it talks about the history of germ theory and it's really important because most people don't even know that there's this other thing called terrain theory in the background that explains a lot of why people get You know, an alternative theory of why people get sick and unwell.
	And so it goes through the history of the fraud that people like Louis Pasteur were involved in.
	And a lot of these big institutions, so things like the RKI, which is the German equivalent of the CDC, It goes through, again, the collusion with the FDA and runs through all the big pandemics.
	And particularly what really struck me, because if you like, Mike, I can tell you really quickly how I came into this book because it was a little bit serendipitous, a bit...
	God was pushing me in a particular direction.
	I read the book early in 2020 for the very first time.
	I wasn't an author for it.
	But the HIV and AIDS is really interesting because it is just this identical play of what happened with COVID. The final chapter is really about COVID-19 and everything that went on with that.
	It really leads you to this question of Maybe viruses aren't the cause of illness.
	Maybe there's something else that's going on.
	And then you can go down all sorts of other rabbit holes after that.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And I also want to clarify, just for the sake of your co-authors, that this work has involved several people.
	I want to give credit to your co-authors as well.
	Can you just introduce them?
	Even though they're not here with us, but who are they?
	Yeah.
	Please.
	Yeah, thank you.
	So it was mostly written originally, the earlier editions were written by two German people.
	So Torsten Engelbrecht, who's an investigative journalist, and also Dr.
	Klaus Kernlein, who's a German physician, and he's worked closely with AIDS patients and the HIV. And so that was their interest.
	Primary focus in the original versions were on HIV and AIDS. But then they expanded and went into lots of other different viruses and show you also the fraudulent science that so much of this, you know, that you take for granted, you think is all, like what I was taught at medical school, that, for example, that the Spanish flu is a contagious respiratory disease.
	You know, disease.
	And they go back and they show you the original experiments of the Spanish flu studies.
	And that in itself is just one area that's fascinating to show that they can't make people sick, even when they try every which way to do it, these supposedly incredibly contagious diseases.
	So let me jump in right there with a couple of things.
	So The overall premise of modern virology is, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but it is that there exist tiny particles which are not alive.
	They are non-living structures, proteins, so-called viruses.
	They are probably typically on the micro scale, not nano scale, I think, but mostly micro scale.
	And that when someone is exposed to these things, That then these things make them sick.
	They show symptoms and these things then replicate and then spread to other people.
	And I think that is kind of mainstream virology that merely the presence of these particles causes the disease and the sickness and the symptoms.
	Is that a fair description or am I leaving something out?
	Yeah, it's pretty close.
	I think, you know, the original idea of viruses came back from going right back was this tobacco mosaic virus, which was, it's a plant virus, you know, so-called, in better quotes, virus.
	And so, yeah, it's supposed to be a, it's got some genetic material inside.
	It's covered by a proteinaceous coat.
	It replicates inside the host, the plant.
	causes disease in another.
	And when you go back, and this is the crucial thing, and this is why, for example, COVID-19 is such a fraud, is that when you look at, has this actually ever been shown?
	Have they isolated viruses?
	Have they shown that this one entity can cause disease in another?
	No, it's never been done.
	And most people, they just repeat what they've been told and what they've heard.
	And I was the same, you know, going back to medical school.
	I learned all the things.
	I never went back to the original research.
	Why would you?
	You just trust that this is correct.
	But over the last two years, myself and my husband, who's also a former doctor, have gone back and looked at all the papers and The original, you know, and some of these are going back into the 1800s, and you realize it's never been done.
	They can't show that these things called viruses make people, you know, cause illness, cause disease.
	So this is extraordinary, and I have interviewed other people who are also, I think, sharing this line of investigation, like Dr.
	Christine Massey, who has written hundreds of letters, I think FOIA-type requests, asking for any documentation from I mean, medical institutions, universities, governments all around the world asking for any evidence that would back up what you just described.
	That is, for example, taking a sick person, isolating virus particles from that sick person, and then introducing those virus particles to a non-sick person, and then observing that person becoming sick with the same symptoms that were found in the original person.
	At least if I'm describing this correctly.
	And then no one has been able to demonstrate scientifically that this process is happening.
	And Christine Massey has never been able to get a letter from any institution in the world, not science, medicine, universities, governments, affirming that they have any evidence that this has happened.
	Have I said all that correctly from your point of view?
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	No, definitely, Mike.
	You're right on the money.
	Yeah.
	And I know Christine, she's the loveliest, kindest soul.
	And yeah, she's done fantastic work exposing this from the institutions that there's no evidence of it.
	And we've even taken it a step further with Christine's part of this as well, where we've written a statement.
	My husband was actually one of the main co-authors of it, the settling the virus debate statement, which is essentially...
	We're asking that virology do, because one of the big things with this, Mike, is that they never do controlled experiments.
	So they'll show, there's thousands of papers claiming that these, for example, SARS-CoV-2 has been isolated, but they never do the control experiment.
	It's all a bit of sleight of hand.
	And so the statement that about 18 other people, 20 of us, have signed, Is to say, let's do these experiments.
	Let's show us these controlled experiments and using their own techniques.
	So using the same scientific, so the electron microscopy, the cell culture techniques, the genomics, all of that, but doing it with blinded controls to prove that what they're saying is correct.
	And What we've found is that no one has done this.
	And it's shocking because the whole world has gone into a totalitarian lockdown because of this fraudulent science.
	Yeah, it really is extraordinary.
	And at the same time, the things that you are documenting in your book are rather extraordinary as well.
	I'm going to ask you...
	Perhaps some skeptical questions as well to address, but I want to point out something else that is fascinating that's related to all this.
	New York City has been, they just declared a state of emergency over polio found in the sewage, not even polio in people.
	They don't have anybody walking around New York City with symptoms of polio.
	They've been running PCR tests on the poop.
	And they say they found it there, so they declare a state of emergency when no one is sick, and they declare a massive vaccine injection priority when no one is sick.
	And all I can think of here, and pardon my language, everybody, but this is proof that medicine has gone to shit.
	Because that's what they're watching now.
	It's like they're not even looking at the people.
	I know.
	And this is what it's become now.
	And we saw this really more apparently with COVID. I mean, on a level that I've never seen before in my time working as a doctor, that you can get tested, do everything.
	It doesn't matter if you have symptoms or not.
	And this is what medicine has become.
	It's turned into this monster thing.
	Where everything's based on genomics and PCR testing and they don't need you to be sick.
	And this is the fraud.
	That's just extraordinary what you just said.
	But you're right.
	Yeah, and it doesn't have to be – it can be anything.
	Like polio is an example.
	And what's scary now too is that they do all the surge testing, doing PCR tests, which are, again, another fraudulent test.
	They've never been shown to be able to diagnose anything.
	It's basically an amplification tool.
	It increases the amount of data so that you can detect – Tiny molecules of genetic material, but it doesn't tell you that that can make you sick, whatever that molecule was.
	An example in New Zealand was that we went into a severe Level 4 lockdown for one case in New Zealand.
	The whole of New Zealand went into this Level 4 lockdown and it changed everything for us.
	And this is what these public health officials can do.
	They have a lot of power.
	Yeah, it's really extraordinary.
	Okay, one more thing I want to observe that actually describes why I became so interested in this subject that you are talking about, and why I've interviewed people like Dr.
	Thomas Cowan, Dr.
	Andy Kaufman, and so on, because early in the masking effort of COVID, There was a study, and I don't recall who published it, but a study that just looked at what germs are found in the masks that people are wearing.
	And I recall the study saying, oh, well, yeah, we took the masks and then we ran microbiology and And we found in the masks of just everyday people wearing them for eight hours.
	Here's what we found.
	And they go through this list of tuberculosis and, you know, all these diseases, respiratory diseases and oral diseases and cancer viruses and all this stuff.
	And there's a long list, like 20 pathogens.
	And the question in my mind was, well, then why aren't these people sick?
	All these pathogens are in their masks.
	Obviously, it came out of their bodies.
	So then why aren't they sick?
	If the theory is that if you have this pathogen, then you have the disease.
	That question really got me thinking about this.
	Does that ring a bell while you recall that?
	100%, Mike.
	I mean, I think for me personally, this has been a huge journey because I came from allopathic medicine.
	I believed in all of this.
	I believed in vaccination.
	In the last two years, it's been a huge wake-up for me.
	On a personal level as well.
	And to see that even these terms that we use, and it's hard because it's just in everyday language, but things like pathogen, immune system, infections, it all plays into this This lie, really, that we do have these bacteria and, you know, parasites and things inside of us.
	Fungi, it doesn't mean that it causes disease.
	They're actually our friends.
	They're there to help us.
	And that's the whole basis of terrain theory.
	And interestingly, you know, there's been false...
	We talk about it in virus mania as well.
	And interesting, a false epidemic that was recorded was a whooping cough, a pertussis epidemic.
	Where someone started coughing in this medical institution and essentially they did PCR testing and everyone came back positive for whooping cough.
	But then they actually did the proper culturing of the pertussis and they couldn't get any cases.
	So it was a fully fictional false test.
	Epidemic of whooping cough.
	And this is what they can do with these tests.
	So we all have bacteria, all these things everywhere on us and around us and inside of us.
	We can't live without them.
	And it's moving away from this mindset, shifting away to say they can't harm us, they can't hurt us, they're there to help.
	And yeah, there are other ways.
	There are other reasons that we get sick and we're ignoring that because there's no money in it.
	Right.
	And power as well, because the fear that goes along with these so-called outbreaks and pandemics, it gives government organizations and the CDC and pharma tremendous power.
	I mean, total control over people's lives.
	You must lock down.
	You must shut down.
	You must put your children in rooms for weeks at a time.
	You must wear this.
	You must inject that.
	It's extraordinary.
	So their narrative is so powerful.
	They have every motivation to push this narrative, whether it's backed by real science or not.
	I mean, think about the vaccine companies making tens of billions of dollars in profits, even when sometimes millions of doses of their vaccines end up getting destroyed.
	Well, but they still made money off of them anyway, just because nations and cities overpurchased based on the fear factor.
	The fear is the marketing campaign.
	Yes, exactly.
	And you're right.
	And all roads lead to vaccines, regardless of whether there's so-called infectious diseases or not.
	I mean, there's published white papers.
	I think it was the PwC did a paper in 2007.
	Sorry, don't quote me on that, but something around then where they were looking at where to for big pharma.
	You know, what are we going to invest our money in?
	And it's vaccines for everything.
	It's not just, you know, polio or whatever else.
	It's looking for cancers, for cocaine addiction, for anything imaginable.
	You know, it's just this is their business model.
	And, I mean, frankly, we've seen what's happened with the COVID-19 vaccines.
	They're toxic.
	They're dangerous.
	And, you know, it's never-ending.
	And then they can blame whatever happens on Yeah, becomes very difficult to try and tease back what's going on.
	Yeah, that's a really good point where even if the vaccine is toxic, the toxicity can be blamed on the so-called pathogen in order to drive more vaccines.
	We saw that with HIV and AIDS and then interventions such as AZT back in the late 80s and 90s.
	So a lot of, usually it was gay men that were being treated with AZT and then they became very, very symptomatic as their immune systems were being destroyed by the drug.
	And then their immune suppression was labeled AIDS.
	And Fauci was involved in that, too, by the way.
	That was kind of the first round of the Fauci fraud.
	But it's the same kind of thing.
	It's like, hey, the intervention makes you sick, and then the sickness is diagnosed as the disease that demands more intervention.
	Exactly.
	And we're just, we're guinea pigs in this whole thing.
	You know, we're innocent.
	And people are.
	And I feel sorry because I think this is happening again for gay men with the monkeypox business.
	And they're being targeted because they are a group that get excessive testing done.
	You know, they're tested every three to six months.
	Anyway, if you're HIV positive, you're on a lot of, you know, these HIV drugs.
	And it's a factory farm of getting people into this model and you can't get out of it.
	It's very difficult to try if you say, actually, I don't really want to be on these medicines anymore.
	In the UK, for example, they have laws that says that if you're pregnant or you have children and you refuse to take the HIV medicines, they can take your children away from you because you're a risk to the child.
	It's crazy and this is the kind of world we're living in now and it's trying to take back those power and I think the first step is realizing how much of a fraud this is.
	It takes away the fear and that for me is the biggest thing with virus mania with the book is it really removes that fear that there are these things, pathogens and microbes we should be scared of.
	That's nonsense.
	So, folks, if you're just joining us, we're interviewing Dr.
	Samantha Bailey, the author of Virus Mania.
	You can find that book at booksellers everywhere.
	It's also available on audible.com as a downloadable audio file.
	And I strongly recommend you check out this book.
	Check out her website, which is also drsambailey.com, but doctor is shortened to dr.com.
	So I've got so many questions for you.
	Thanks for staying with us here, Sam, as you asked me to call you.
	So then, is the theory from where you're coming from, is the theory that These particles that are found often with disease, or let's say they are,
	they might be the byproduct of cell death, and thus they're not the instigator of disease or symptoms, but rather the result of cell membrane waste products from dying cells.
	Is that part of the theory?
	Potentially, to be honest with you, Mike, I still, I'm not sure.
	I just, what both myself and my husband do, because my husband, like I said, he's a former doctor as well.
	We go back through the research and we try to look for, well, what's the evidence show us?
	And really what we were interested in is what's the provenance of these particles that we can see?
	You know, what Are they, you know, do they come from, you know, where do they come from?
	And I think that's one theory is that it's breakdown, you know, that these are exosomes and these are part of, you know, our genetic material.
	There are these things, I don't know if you've heard of called bacteriophages, which are prolific.
	They're found a lot in the sea and they're thought to be Like genetic lifeboats of information.
	And this is where we were all supposedly taught, you know, back in medical school, when you're showing pictures of viruses, they show you basically pictures of bacteriophages and they say this is the model.
	And like any of these models that they apply, it's just that someone somewhere has made up the story and then it's just propagated and it turns into fact and dogma.
	I'm not sure what the significance is of these pictures that they show you and say, well, point here, this is the virus.
	I think potentially they are exosomes.
	But again, so much, I think, of what we were taught is not...
	It's just these models, and I don't know if they're necessarily correct.
	And Tom Cowan's really interesting because he talks a lot about even the structure of the cell, for example, and how a lot of this is just another model that's been put there, and you don't even know for sure if what we're learning there is right either, and it becomes this can of worms.
	Modern science is really good at creating models and then pretending that the models are reality.
	We find this, obviously, in chemistry, too, which we work in our lab with a lot of chemistry.
	And all the chemistry books or even physics books are the same, like, oh, here's the atomic nuclei with the orbiting probability waves of electron clouds, and they go on this axis and that axis.
	And then these electrons are little balls floating around, except when they're not.
	And then they're not.
	And no one knows where they are.
	And then they're back.
	And it's like, you know, okay, you're making this up.
	Totally.
	I know.
	And for me, virology was a big shock because I... I trusted.
	I thought this had all been established.
	I get that all the time.
	People are like, that's crazy that you think that they don't exist.
	I'm not saying always.
	I say, of course, people get sick and people get unwell, but I don't believe that viruses are the things that make people get sick.
	Sorry, you go.
	No, this is where I'd like to ask you kind of a skeptical question.
	I think one of the markers of infectious disease would be the rate of spread.
	That if it were, let's say, along an exponential type of curve, I think that would indicate, you know, spreading from person to person and then the number of people, you know, increasing to spread it to more people.
	It's an exponential curve.
	Yeah.
	Why is humanity under the impression that that's the kind of spread that is always taking place with these diseases?
	Although, I'll even answer myself partially, in the case of COVID spreading in the United States, after New York City, it basically didn't do that.
	But why are we all under the impression that it's going to be an exponential spread?
	Yeah, again, it's sort of, it's a language that's being used here.
	So I like to go back and back and back to the basis.
	And basically, what are we talking about?
	Are we talking about spread of like a test that's been done?
	You know, how is it being measured?
	What is it?
	And I think this is a common problem that we all have.
	We're all looking for something like, what is it?
	What is spreading?
	And that in itself, that question is wrong.
	I don't think there is anything, you know, there is such a thing as it, that people get unwell, but they're for different reasons, and it's complex.
	You know, there's hundreds of things that people are exposed to in their environment.
	We're all under different, you know, stresses, you know, all the kind of terrain stuff that's going on.
	I try and step back out of that language because it becomes confusing.
	One of the things, early on, I was just going to quickly say about COVID, was I looked into what is a COVID-19 case defined by?
	There are no specific signs or symptoms.
	The Cochrane Collaboration have said that.
	There are no specific signs or symptoms that defines whether something is COVID or not.
	And it comes down to the PCR test.
	That's it.
	That's how something's diagnosed.
	So the PCR tests were spreading at an exponential rate across the country.
	All those lateral flow tests.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Right.
	And then there were all these, quote, cases.
	And then we had the, quote, case-demic, which was, by and large, perfectly healthy people diagnosed with what we know is a fraudulent PCR test.
	And by the way, I have firsthand experience with the PCR fraud because...
	My lab is a food science lab, and we do conventional microbiology testing for all of our food that we sell.
	So we're doing testing for E. coli, salmonella, yeast and mold, and so on.
	And then we heard about, hey, you could use PCR to speed this up.
	You could do in 12 hours what used to take three days.
	All you got to do is buy this PCR equipment and test it for the genetic fingerprint of the bacteria that are in the food.
	So we actually sat down with a major PCR manufacturer to purchase their equipment.
	I mean, we had a quote and everything.
	And it ended up we didn't do it because in the last meeting, I was asking them, I'm like, so how do we get quantitative numbers out of this?
	Because I want to know how many colonies are there.
	Because all the FDA regulations, and I'm sorry for taking up so much of the time here, but the FDA regulations say you have to be under a certain level.
	It's an actual hard number and it's different in the EU and it's different in Canada and Japan and so on.
	But in order to know if your food passes or fails, you have to know the number.
	Like how much of this stuff is in this food?
	And they told me PCR doesn't give you any numbers, doesn't tell you how much.
	It just tells you if there's one or more.
	And I'm like, well, what use is that in food science?
	Exactly.
	No use.
	This is the thing, and Mike, it's like a multi-billion, probably trillion dollar industry, just in itself, you know, this testing thing, and it's bogus.
	Like, I mean, if you can, PCR is probably, it's definitely, you know, it can measure things like bacteria and, you know, these are quantifiable, you know, I don't want to conflate them with so-called viruses, but But this industry in itself, there's a lot of money in it, and a lot of people have done very well.
	Early on in 2020, I had a fact-checking article written about me because I made a video about PCR tests and what they were doing in New Zealand.
	They basically were turning the funding off and on for the PCR tests here, and then you'd get a boost in cases when they turned on the funding, and then they turn it off again and it goes down again.
	It was very easily controlled.
	Wow, you can control the pandemic with government grants.
	Totally.
	Amazing.
	And the fact-checking article that was written about me by AFP, one of the people that was the experts writing this, you know, that they went to, owned a PCR diagnostic test company in New Zealand.
	I mean, it's just so...
	Corrupt the whole thing.
	And you realize, like, I don't want anything to do with them.
	It's just, it's really bad.
	So, okay, let me bring in something else that I think you'll appreciate, too.
	Back to the lab testing, and this is confirming what you're just saying.
	The PCR testing is absolutely fraudulent.
	When we do testing in our lab for things like lead, let's say heavy metals, we have external standards.
	So we buy NIST traceable external standards known for Masses or concentrations of masses suspended in liquids and so on.
	We know, okay, that's 100 parts per million lead, let's say, or 10 parts per billion or whatever.
	So we show the instrument what lead looks like at different concentrations and then we run our unknown sample, right?
	This is what science is supposed to do.
	And then they tell us, oh, the unknown sample falls here on your spectrum of knowns and therefore, oh, it's 52 parts per billion or whatever.
	Well, I tried to buy, as a lab, and we're an ISO-accredited lab, I tried to buy COVID-19 A COVID external standard, which would be a COVID isolation of nothing but COVID particles.
	And I found...
	I went online and I went to all these companies and they were offering COVID-19 or really SARS-CoV-2 isolates.
	And then in the ingredients section or the disclaimer of this standard, so-called standard, they would say, and it contains bovine cells and like...
	I forgot all the animals and things that were in there.
	Oh, and human blood cells and things that are not SARS-CoV-2.
	It's filled with all kinds of stuff, and it was originally taken from the snot of this woman that stepped off a plane from China, so we assumed she had COVID. I'm like, wait a second.
	This is not scientific at all.
	They're selling snot samples, calling it COVID, and it's full of cow serum and so on.
	Exactly.
	It was mind-blowing.
	I know.
	And this is the thing, Mike.
	I can't point this out enough.
	People that are skeptical of this, it's like, go and just look at this stuff yourself.
	I don't even trust my word for it.
	It's going...
	Have a look at some of these...
	Like you say, read the leaflets of what these isolates and things are supposed to be.
	It's just...
	It's so...
	The fraud is on just the biggest...
	It's mind-blowing, the level.
	And once people realize this, what we've been sold, it's just...
	Stepping out of it, not buying into any of the nonsense and trying to live in a healthy way without vaccines and these other kind of pharmaceuticals they're trying to sell us.
	But yeah, you're right.
	It's crazy.
	So there must be some other overriding theory that explains...
	I mean, something that goes along with the terrain theory.
	It's not just a vulnerability in your terrain that allows...
	to achieve traction in your body, let's say.
	But I've been even thinking, I'll go ahead and share this publicly with you, but what about ideas like morphic resonance where we've seen documented cases where, for example, xylitol used to be a liquid at room temperature and then xylitol began to freeze and form xylitol used to be a liquid at room temperature and then xylitol began to freeze and form And then everywhere around the world, all the other labs, xylitol did the same thing, started to become solid, even though those labs never had any contact with each other.
	And there are numerous documented cases of pharmaceuticals manufactured by mainstream pharma companies that had the same problem.
	They could never return back to their liquid states when one of the labs somewhere on the planet became a solid and then all the others became solids all over the world.
	They had to pull drugs off the market.
	I've documented this.
	Well, I mean, I've.
	Other books documented it, and then I did my own book called The Contagious Mind, based on that.
	But have you ever heard of that, Sam, of sort of molecules sharing information over distance?
	Yeah, I think it's fascinating.
	I didn't know of the one you just mentioned, but there's also, have you heard of that hundred monkeys?
	Yes.
	The hundred monkey kind of idea as well, where it's behavioral.
	Yeah, and it is fascinating.
	In fairness, I haven't looked into it deeply enough, but yeah, I think it's not just one thing.
	I think there's so many...
	The factors that are going on.
	And I don't like to say it's all just, you know, some people I think get hooked up on, oh, it's all this, it's all EMF, or it's all psychological, like German New Medicine kind of stuff.
	And I don't know that I would agree with that.
	I think it's a combination of all sorts of things that are happening in and around us.
	And like you say, we are.
	We're spiritual human beings.
	You know beings that are interacting with people and there's all sorts of things that we're not even aware of that are going on like pheromones and hormone interactions with people.
	It's probably infinitely complex and we can't apply a model to it.
	There isn't going to be a viral explanation, a nice little bumper sticker slogan that you can say to explain why did COVID happen.
	I think it was a manufactured event and unfortunately we're the human guinea pigs in this whole Giant experiment.
	And we've been tricked in a lot of ways.
	And I think fear plays a huge role in illness.
	I really believe strongly in that.
	There's another theory.
	Can you stay a couple more minutes?
	Of course, Mike.
	I'd love to.
	Okay, okay.
	Well, thank you.
	I know it's daytime where you are.
	It's getting late here, but this is such a fascinating conversation.
	There's another theory that says that the bioweapons that were developed, the SARS-CoV-2, is really a bioweapon, kind of like a chemical weapon or a...
	You know, a so-called nanoparticle, even though it might be larger than that, that is a kind of chemical weapon.
	And the theory goes that this weapon was distributed around New York City or northern Italy even before that.
	So according to this theory, there wasn't even really a virus, so to speak, but rather just toxins, just kind of Toxic particles that could have been aerosolized, could have been put on surfaces, common public surfaces, you know, subway rails or door handles or whatever, and that those two cities were hit hard or those regions were hit hard.
	And then that was all that was necessary to create the panic, get people into the hospitals where they could then be killed by ventilators and other interventions, including remdesivir.
	And then that could cause the mortalities that were then attributed to COVID.
	And so they just needed to kickstart the whole pandemic, and then they could generate the deaths in the hospitals.
	What do you think about that theory?
	Yeah, I just don't like to speculate too much about these things.
	I like to see evidence that that was the case.
	It's possible, but I feel deep down in my soul that this whole bioweapon thing It feeds back into the overall arching thing.
	It feeds back into the viral model and the viral belief system in its heart.
	That's why I really think it's wrong.
	I think the bioweapon is the vaccine, if I'm perfectly honest.
	I think injecting that stuff is toxic and will cause problems for people.
	But whether they did, I don't know how they, you know, they're spraying surfaces, they're doing things.
	I know that in Italy, for example, they have high levels of pollution in the Lombardi region.
	You know, there's lots of other things that were going on.
	It's fascinating going back to the original stuff, like in Wuhan, what happened.
	Yes.
	Really, at the origin and to see that there was nothing new.
	There was nothing different that happened with the patient zero.
	They declared it was.
	Some people said, you know, some doctors said, we've got a new deadly disease here.
	And then there was a whole thing about an ophthalmologist dying, trying to whistleblow.
	And, you know, it all just spirals.
	It creates its own...
	I personally think that you don't need anything, any like toxin or anything.
	It's just the fear narrative itself is enough to, you know, to control people and to make them believe that something's happening.
	You know, media is very convincing.
	You show people pictures of coffins and we know that there was a lot of fake news going on at that time where they were showing pictures of Yeah.
	Yeah.
	This is fascinating because you're getting into mind-body connections.
	And, you know, we've written about this before as well.
	There are, well, the kind of fear imagery and so on can program people's minds to make it real in their bodies.
	So in other words, there's going to be a certain percentage of the population that self-diagnoses or even self-actualizes the symptoms.
	So, for example, even in realms of, let's just say, hypnosis, People can be told that they're about to be touched with, let's say, the end of a burning cigarette on their skin, even though it's not.
	They're blindfolded.
	But then they're just touched with like a pencil eraser.
	But then their skin will react as if they had been burned.
	Same thing is true with poison ivy.
	There have been published studies about people when they're told this is poison ivy, their skin will develop all these rashes, even though it's not poison ivy, just something completely different.
	So some people's minds make it real.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Definitely.
	Yeah.
	And I've seen that myself.
	I worked in clinical trials for some years.
	And I remember we would give, in the run-in period where people are starting a new medication, you have to usually give placebo.
	And we would know that, but the patient wouldn't know that.
	And people would start getting side effects.
	And I'd know that it was from the placebo, but I couldn't say anything.
	You have to stop them being part of the trial and things because they were developing it.
	And it's not that...
	I feel bad because it's not the, you know, people say, oh, you're crazy.
	No, it's nothing to do with that.
	There is, like you say, a very strong mind-body connection.
	And if you do this on a mass scale, and the thing that's also different about COVID-19, From any other time is that we're living in a digital age where everything is instant.
	If something happens in Italy, we know about it immediately.
	And you think, when in time would this have happened?
	In virus mania, we talk about the Spanish flu and how it couldn't have happened.
	A virus couldn't explain it because of all the different outbreaks that happened.
	There wasn't...
	The communication, the physical contact with one person to another in Texas versus somewhere in Spain, you know, it just couldn't have happened the way it did in terms of all these outbreaks happening all over the globe.
	So yeah, I think you're right.
	There is this strong, you know, digital...
	There's this digital phenomena that we have that's changed the way these pandemics happen now.
	See, I think this speaks to something very important, which is that Western medicine focuses on the material side, the mechanical side, if you will.
	So everything in Western medicine and even Western science talks about the mechanics of it, right?
	So, oh, there's this pump that pumps these minerals through the cell membrane into the cytoplasm, and then there's this Part and this chunk and everything's very, very physical, right?
	And then they talk about drugs.
	Oh, this drug is like a key in a lock on a receptor site.
	And here's a little, here's a rendered 3D animation.
	So you can imagine what we're talking.
	Look, look at the little blue triangles go into the little green squares or whatever.
	And people, oh yeah, that's how it works.
	But actually, that's just, that's just an animation.
	It's like a video game.
	Exactly.
	I'm so glad you say that, Mike, because it is.
	And I mean, you feel foolish.
	I feel foolish thinking, oh my gosh, I believed all these things that we were taught as though it was dogma.
	And if you question this stuff, you know, people think you're crazy, but it's right.
	There's not...
	They just draw pictures and say, this is what it is.
	And you think, okay, when you actually look at the evidence, and that's what I've really focused on, and that's why I say I'm not really into trying to speculate too much.
	I want to see the evidence for it.
	I appreciate that about you, by the way.
	Yeah, but it's really, when you look at this stuff yourself, and I know that some of these papers are really technical, but thankfully, you know, even on my website, I've made a lot of videos.
	They're for free.
	People can watch them about things like viral isolation and try and just simplify it and make it easier for people to understand that all these things we've been told, it's not as it seems.
	Okay, so...
	I'm sorry to interject, but this is already super fascinating.
	You mentioned you were part of clinical trials in the past.
	Did you help run some clinical trials?
	Is that what you did?
	I was like a sub-investigator.
	Don't hate me for that.
	No, not at all.
	I'm about to ask you a question, but that helps qualify it.
	Are you familiar with the phenomenon where, let's say, there's an antidepressant drug that is being tested in a clinical trial, and then, of course, there's one group that's given the drug, and then there's another group that is the control group, let's say, that's given the placebo, but it's blind, so the people don't know what they have.
	Well, then the people are so brainwashed by drug advertising that they want to be in the group that's getting the real drug because they believe the drug is going to help, you know, rebalance my brain chemistry or whatever the ad said.
	And so when they begin to experience negative side effects, they get really positive and excited because they say, I've got the real drug because, you know.
	My hair is falling out.
	I can't get erections or whatever.
	You know, things are going wrong.
	This is awesome.
	I'm getting the drug.
	And then they get positive and they become no longer depressed.
	Have you heard of that phenomenon?
	Yeah, I didn't work with antidepressants, but yes, I worked a lot in cardiology trials.
	And yeah, you definitely see that.
	And it's kind of...
	But yeah, and people also would get really angry if they weren't getting any...
	Any side effects?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And I wouldn't know what I want.
	The level of brainwashing in society, I'm sorry if I'm getting over-interrupted here, but the level of brainwashing in all of society has to be factored into this.
	Because without all the television advertising, nobody would want to experience negative side effects.
	But because of the ads, they're like, oh, I've got to have the negative side effects because that tells me I'm getting the real drug and that's going to solve my brain problem.
	So there's something twisted.
	You can't even have a clinical trial, frankly, unless you find somebody who's never watched television.
	Yeah, I mean, there's so many problems with clinical trials, how they operate.
	I mean, just as a minor thing, the people, like the patients that you try and get into the studies, they're so selected.
	Like, you try and get them, you know, as good as possible, you know, fitting these particular, you know, defined criteria.
	In some ways, it never represented what was happening in the real world, as it were.
	It doesn't represent reality at all.
	It's this very manufactured way in order to get the particular outcome that the drug company is looking for.
	Yeah.
	And so the other takeaway from all of this is, if you look at placebo effects in clinical trials across the board, something like, you could say the placebo effect, which is really mind-body medicine, is effective at about 35% of everything.
	So the mind can solve almost every problem with some level of efficacy if the patient believes it to be so.
	I mean, that should be the biggest story in the history of medicine.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And I mean, there's some fantastic books written about this, but I mean, I look at, you know, medicine, 95% of what medicine does is not, you know, you can get rid of it.
	There's such a tiny percentage, and I'm not saying all of it, you know, there are some good things.
	I think emergency medicine and You know, acute, when people are hurt and trauma, that really can help.
	But so much of it is, it's in our own control.
	And medicine relies on this, I'm talking about allopathic medicine, is this externalization of your problems.
	You know, it's all, there's something that's happened to me.
	It's not my fault.
	And, you know, you give it to someone else to try and fix.
	That is the wrong mindset.
	Right.
	It should be more about taking control of it yourself and saying, I have the power.
	I can be cured of this.
	This is not, you know, this is, it's something's happened, but I need to look around in my environment and think about what's going on in my life and how can I try and fix it myself.
	Absolutely.
	And where you live, you're in New Zealand.
	And I don't know the proper term, but I know that New Zealand has, there was an indigenous population there.
	And also, of course, in Australia, the aborigines, and they have a system of medicine.
	And there are indigenous medical systems all over the world, Tibetan medicine, Amazonian rainforest medicine, and even all throughout modern day China, traditional Chinese medicine, and so on.
	All of these systems have some level of efficacy, but they don't have to resort to the mechanization of And they don't have to use microscopes.
	You know, you can tell more about a person from tongue diagnosis in Chinese medicine than even with an MRI in a Western hospital.
	Can you tell us about what kind of indigenous medicine exists in New Zealand?
	Yeah, well, so the Maori people, the indigenous population in New Zealand, it's, you know, it is, I'll be honest, I don't know a lot about it.
	I know that what we were taught in medical school, which now I'm like, I don't know how much of that is true.
	Right.
	It's much more just holistic.
	I've really moved personally just to this idea of trying to figure out, work on yourself and looking at everything in your environment that we're exposed to.
	I mean, there are toxins for sure, and you guys know that, with heavy metals, there's things that can...
	But it's figuring those things out and going, okay, well, what can I do?
	And being really brutally honest with yourself, too.
	Thinking about, what's my relationship like?
	Have I been fighting with my spouse?
	There are things that are going on that not all of us, we don't really want to admit to ourselves, but they have an effect on us.
	The negativity in a household is So yeah, I think I'm still trying to figure it all out myself, Mike, if I'm perfectly honest.
	I don't have all the answers.
	But I think there's just this move away from allopathic medicine and it's got serious limitations and it can really hurt people.
	As we saw with COVID, ventilation, the antiviral treatments, this kind of thing, they're harmful and I try and look for natural solutions myself.
	Well, you've hit upon something really key here.
	And in the interest of time, this will be my last question, but you're a very humble person and that's greatly appreciated by our audience and myself as well.
	And as you just said, you don't have all the answers.
	You're still asking questions and trying to figure it out.
	And I think that's the posture of a true doctor or true scientist.
	What scares me are We have the only answers, the only allowable answers.
	If you disagree with us, you know, you're an extremist.
	You're going to lose your license.
	You're a danger to society.
	They think they've got it all figured out, and their arrogance is weaponized against the world.
	And that's what freaked me out as an American, by the way, watching the leadership in New Zealand, you know, Jacinda there and watching Dan Andrews over in Australia and watching all the leaders there just order people to be locked down, be prisoners in your own home, Jacinda there and watching Dan Andrews over in Australia and watching all the leaders
	It was absolutely shocking that the level of arrogance they thought justified these really outrageous actions that violate human rights.
	Yeah.
	New Zealand was a classic example.
	I mean, so many.
	Canada as well.
	Yeah, I agree.
	It was shocking.
	And I'll just tell you a really quick story that just, this made me cry, if I'm honest, but when the first lockdown happened and I went to the supermarket, you know, it was like day two of the severe lockdown and everyone was spaced two metres apart.
	You know, you could only go in one at a time into the supermarket and I saw people with gas masks, you know, it was, and I read, no, I seriously did, and I read the Gulag Archipelago, and as I was shopping and going around, I was thinking, oh my God, this is how this happens.
	This is how, you know, these total, I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime, you know, in a country, in a supposedly free country like New Zealand.
	But to see it happen overnight, that was what kind of terrified me.
	And I went home and I cried.
	I just thought, this has happened here.
	And unfortunately, it's the people that let it happen.
	I know we've got these tyrannical leaders that are insane.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I can't believe, you know, Jacinda Ardern said at one point that, you know, there are two rules for people.
	You can have freedoms if you're vaccinated and you won't have the freedoms if you're not vaccinated.
	It wasn't exactly that, but, you know, that was the meaning of what she said.
	But it's also the people that let that happen and, you know, allow it.
	And I thought the difference, say, between New Zealand and America is I love Americans because I think they've got this sense of freedom and liberty and they will stand up for their rights.
	New Zealanders are a quieter, you know, we don't like to make a fuss.
	It's very, you know, just get on with it sort of thing.
	We don't have clashes with authority and maybe it's because we're a young country and we haven't seen what the Eastern Bloc has said.
	With, you know, these terrible wars and things.
	But it just, it did shock me that.
	But then I realized the power that you can do, how you can take back your power is that you don't, as an individual, you don't go along with any of it.
	And that's what myself and my family, we live by.
	And having faith in God, I believe that spiritually that protects you as well.
	Well, we in America, you know, we say if you haven't had problems with your government, just give it time.
	You will.
	Because, you know, our country was born out of conflict with the British Empire.
	And I'm a Texan and Texans, you know, handled this very differently than, let's say, the California leadership.
	So in America, we had 50 states, 50 different approaches.
	To all of this, where in New Zealand, you had one order.
	It was like, you must obey, and we're building quarantine camps if you don't.
	And it's kind of like, wow, is there no other option here?
	And there wasn't.
	So that's pretty frightening.
	I'm glad you made it through, though.
	And I'm glad you've kept your wits about you here.
	And I really appreciate you joining us this evening.
	So thank you for your time.
	Oh, thank you, Mike.
	It's been a pleasure.
	It's like catching up with a friend.
	I have a feeling we could talk for hours about all these topics.
	I think so, too.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But look, this has been fascinating.
	We'll obviously invite you back, and let me just give out your book name again.
	It's called Virus Mania, for those who want to check it out.
	If you've had questions about everything, cervical cancer and polio, hepatitis, AIDS, Avian flu, measles, you know, and COVID. You've got to check out this book, get the information, make your own decision about how you think it all works.
	And then Dr.
	Bailey's website is drsambailey.com.
	That's drsambailey.com.
	Anything else you want to add, Sam?
	No, it's just a pleasure.
	Thank you so much for the work you're doing, Mike.
	I'm a big fan and I think it's just important that we all work together and to help overcome this insane time.
	I know it won't be forever.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	We're on the same track there.
	And I'm really glad you mentioned that you don't have all the answers yet.
	I don't either, folks.
	I don't know how all this works.
	But I know enough to know that those who claim to have absolute knowledge are full of bunk.
	That's...
	I can say that because there are more mysteries yet to be discovered about our universe and mind-body interactions and the way human beings function.
	A lot more mysteries yet to be uncovered.
	So thank you, Dr.
	Sam Bailey.
	It's been a pleasure, and I wish you a wonderful day there in New Zealand, and we'll get together again.
	Thanks, Mike.
	All right, take care.
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