Josh Sigurdson from World Alternative Media interviewed by Mike Adams on Brighteon
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You cannot diagnose anyone with a PCR test.
And COVID-19 hasn't even been isolated from a human.
It's simply been cultured in Vera Monkey kidney cells compared to a computer simulation.
But of course, that gets too uncomfortable for most people to examine or acknowledge.
Most people would much rather just go along with the narrative and be comfortable in their slumber.
And it's not that they support the vaccine mandates.
It's just that they don't want to speak up.
And with that...
Freedom dies with thunderous applause, and that is why we are witnessing the end of a civilization based in fear.
fear.
It's a cult of fear.
Welcome to the Health Ranger Report, my Mike Adams here, the Health Ranger, founder of Brighteon.com.
Today, we're joined by Josh Sigurdsson, who is the founder of World Alternative Media.
Now, this is the first time I've been able to interview Josh, but I've watched many of his videos on Brighteon and other platforms.
He's all over BitChute and Rumble and basically every platform where you can be.
He's been traveling the world during the pandemic and commenting on what's happening around the world with the economy and with freedom and liberty and even privacy coins.
Which is a subset of cryptocurrency that I find really exciting.
I think it represents the future of crypto.
So I invited Josh on to talk here today.
He's going to be joining us right after this short break and give us his worldview with world alternative media.
I think he's very smart and has great observations about the world.
I think you're going to love this interview.
So stay with us here on Brighttown.tv.
Again, Mike Adams will be right back with Josh after this short break.
Alright, welcome back.
Mike Adams here, Brighteon.tv.
We're joined now by Josh Sigurdsson from World Alternative Media.
His channel on Brighteon is just what it sounds like, World Alternative Media.
So, Josh, welcome to the show, and congratulations on your amazing work and your amazing journeys.
It's great to be able to finally interview you here.
Welcome.
Hey, it's my pleasure, Mike, and I've been watching you for a long time, and I made sure to wear my Brighteon shirt today in this interview.
I just got it at the Red Pill Expo, and I was happy.
Perfect timing.
Perfect timing.
That's awesome.
Love the work you're doing.
That's funny, because the guys who made those shirts just gave me one of those yesterday.
I got one two days ago.
I beat you by one day.
And they gave me a hat, too.
I was like, wow, you have a hat?
That's awesome.
But you are doing amazing videos on Brighttown.
I'm looking through Brighttown new videos each day, and whenever I see a World Alternative Media video of yours, I'm like, jackpot!
So I always like to play it and see what you've got going on.
What's on your mind right now of what's happening in the world?
Well, so one of the things that I feel needs to be talked about right now is people keep asking about solutions.
And I think solutions aren't immediately apparent because in any situation where we're dealing with a global genocide, the solutions become apparent as we form kind of communities or we rebuild a new civilization to replace the old one.
And so I've been kind of On the more pessimistic side, you know, people want to hear optimism, but I think there's such thing as too much hopium and it's a powerful drug and it could bring us down a really bad road.
I mean, it allows us to sit on our hands and be apathetic.
I am optimistic long term, but right now what I'm thinking about is...
What almost feels like the hopelessness of the social credit system that we're moving into right now.
Because I've always said the government is incredibly, incredibly inefficient.
And in most cases, that is true.
However, what we're witnessing right now is absolute genius.
I mean, it is beyond any form of genius I could have ever expected from the government.
And that is how they've managed to use fear and convenience in order to just create this massive web of tyranny worldwide, especially using the digital technology that we all use.
We've already become autonomous robots.
We all have phones for the most part, and it's become a part of us.
And we are quickly falling into a field of artificial intelligence.
But moreover, we are dealing with the aftermath of social media.
For many, many years, we have been put in this position where we use social media to promote ourselves or get a message out.
But it's also been used to Voluntarily, I should say, enslave us.
We tell everyone where we are, what we've done for dinner, here's some photos, here's some tracking, etc.
And it's more of the psychological part of it that I think is most concerning.
It is the fact that as we go into the social credit system, we come out of the social media generation where everyone...
They don't care about their own success.
They simply care about what if other people like them, if the group likes them, if they get likes on a post, if they get shares and get views.
And I think that is a very dangerous thing because as we come out of that, we've been psychologically programmed into an already existing social credit system.
And as the IMF said last December, they would be using our Google search history in the social credit passes that we would have in the future.
It was so obvious for so long that this was coming.
And I often kind of bounce back to the 1970s.
Henry Kissinger met with Mao Zedong to create this artificial alliance with China, moves into the creation of the Trilateral Commission with Zbigniew Brzezinski.
Many of us had been warning about this for a long time, you know, the cashless society.
But now we are in the middle of it and now we are watching it unfold.
And it is incredible to live through history.
But also it's a terrifying aspect of all of our lives right now because we are not quite sure what the world will look like one year from now.
You're not only concerned about the tech being rolled out to monitor us, as I think you're rightly concerned.
But it sounds like you're also very concerned about how rapidly the oblivious masses are accepting this and that they are completely oblivious to what's going on.
I can't believe there are still people who haven't heard of Edward Snowden.
You know, for that matter, how can you not know who Edward Snowden is?
How can you not know Google is a spy machine, Facebook is a CIA front for tracking people and who they're with and what their locations are and facial recognition and all that?
How can people not know this at this point?
We've all talked about Operation Mockingbird and all these agendas to manipulate the masses.
There's the Tavistock Institute, for example, which would predict the future by judging human psychology and how they react to certain news stories.
But I also think that this is, they've found the most vulnerable parts of human beings.
People just want to be comfortable.
People just want to sit by, you know, only about 10% of the populace is actually passionate about anything, whether it's this side or that side or in the middle.
90% of the masses go along with what the 10%, the most powerful voices do.
And so what we've witnessed in this last almost two years now is this huge push.
It's a war on humanity.
Let's be quite simple here in our wording.
It's a war on humanity.
What they've done is they get us from the monetary perspective.
They get us from the health perspective.
They get us, when it comes to basic psychology, the divide, family ostracization.
We don't want to be ostracized from our own families, which many of us are already used to, but a lot more people are going through that now.
And they get us from every angle, the media, social media, our credit cards, our ability to go to restaurants.
I mean, this has been predicted for a long time in China.
And how do they get the Chinese to go along with it?
Honor.
Honor the group.
Honor the collective.
It's the greater good of the greater number.
That's what they've always said.
That is the mantra of collectivism.
And we've always been on the verge of falling completely hook, line, and sinker into that kind of narrative.
But in the last two years, it has basically roped us, tied us down, and destroyed our bodily autonomy.
We are in a time right now Where we don't have bodily autonomy.
They have gone after children.
And for a long time, I wondered how could people not stand up?
You know, people said, well, the line in the sand is when they lock us down.
The line in the sand is a mask mandate.
The line in the sand is a vaccine mandate.
Well, now they're mandating vaccines for five to 12 year olds.
Where is this line in the sand?
And one of the things I've noticed traveling the world, by the way, is while I love the United States in a lot of ways, I'm Canadian originally, but I've always loved the United States.
I've lived there for many years.
I noticed that and I don't support violence, period.
But I do find it interesting that the country with the Second Amendment is one of the most far gone as far as mandates go.
People say, well, other countries aren't as far gone as the United States.
Well, on paper, maybe they are further gone than the United States, but more people are standing up.
There's very few people actually doing anything in the United States.
I just came back from Europe where I was seeing 250,000 people in the streets in the Netherlands and people just mass disobedience in places like Italy and to some degree in France.
And then I go to the United States and it's like they're unrolling vaccines for kids while it's actually banned in a lot of European countries.
And remember, these are vaccines that children have been found.
It's very basic, the science that's behind this, from the University of California, from the UK, from Canada, that shows children are 6.1 times more likely to end up with a heart problem from this jab than they are to be hospitalized with so-called complications.
COVID. And then that's on top of an already existing problem, which is, and they fooled people in the 80s when it came to HIV and AIDS in the same way, but to a greater extent now with social media.
It's the basis of 99.99% survival based on PCR tests that are 96% false positive according to the WHO at 40 cycles and more.
And based on what?
You cannot diagnose anyone with a PCR test.
And COVID-19 hasn't even been isolated from a human.
It's simply been cultured in Vera monkey kidney cells compared to a computer simulation.
But of course, that gets too uncomfortable for most people to examine or acknowledge.
Most people would much rather just go along with the narrative and be comfortable in their slumber.
And it's not that they support the vaccine mandates.
It's just that they don't want to speak up.
And with that...
Freedom dies with thunderous applause, and that is why we are witnessing the end of a civilization based in fear.
It's a cult of fear.
Completely agreed, yeah.
And I think we will build a new civilization because the destroyers of the old one are going to take themselves out in large numbers as well, right?
They're suicidal.
They're like suicide bombers of civilization.
They're going to take themselves out.
They're taking their children out.
They're taking their cities out.
The blue cities, in my view, are going to collapse into just total chaos.
What if we form new free states or nation states?
Maybe we don't even have a nation state structure, just a free people who agree to interact in a more libertarian basis.
And that brings us to the concept that I wanted to ask you about, although you've raised many, many questions already, but privacy coins.
Now, you know, crypto, what's wonderful about it, it's a decentralization of an exchange system.
The Federal Reserve doesn't control it.
But one of the main drawbacks of Bitcoin, and there are several key drawbacks, but one of the main ones is it's a surveillance engine.
Everything's on a public blockchain ledger for everybody to see.
You don't really have any privacy.
So I heard you talking about privacy coins, and that's something that's very intriguing to me as well.
I think it's key.
Tell us about your interest in privacy coins and sort of your investigation, what you think is worth knowing right now.
Well, I think this is one of the most important things about creating a new civilization.
As I mentioned, we have to have people who can build houses, grow their own.
We need pilots.
We need warriors.
We need people, doctors and nurses that are homeopathic and treat with natural remedies the way they used to.
And also, we need a new economy.
And a part of that is, you know, it's ironic.
People say...
Well, you are saying the main problem is a cashless society, but then you're promoting something that's cashless.
Absolutely.
What's ironic about all this, I do believe, is one of the number one cures for the cashless society is a cashless system.
And I'll explain that because a lot of people are going to say, wait, how does that make any sense?
Well, first of all, decentralization is important.
Second of all, who owns and who controls the currency is important and who's tracing it.
When we have this technocratic grid being unrolled and the banks control this digital currency and they can shut off your bank account, which are already doing in Nigeria and they're already going after people's bank accounts in Australia, what we need is a private money.
When your job says, according to government mandates, you cannot work here without a vaccine, you need money to be able to pass under the table.
When they put checkpoints up in every county in the United States and you need to show a social credit pass with vaccine passes and carbon credits on it in order to go to the next county, you need to be able to get through with, first of all, if you carry a big block of gold around, good luck shaving off little slivers onto a scale to buy things on the black market.
Privacy coins are one of the most impressive parts of this new monetary revolution that we're witnessing.
Bitcoin was an extremely important technology that allowed us to create our own competing currencies, not have double spending, and be able to, even if the government created Bitcoin or if the government created The internet, we can utilize that technology to do better things.
Now, fast forward to things like Monero.
Monero was used for a long time as one of the most important privacy coins, but there's been a lot of competition in this market lately.
There's privacy coins like Epic Cash, which I've been a big fan of.
They don't pay me.
I just think that it's one of the best tools right now because it's on something called Mimblewimble.
Well, Mimblewimble is one of the most bulletproof versions of privacy technology out there, where you're able to basically go completely under the radar from the government and from any tracing and tracking and be able to spend money.
And in this new economy, this is extraordinarily important, because we need to get around this technocratic system.
And if your money's in the bank, it's not yours, it's a bank's.
Well, if all your money's always going through the banks by digital transactions, legal tender laws, et cetera, then it's never your money.
It's always a bank's and you are controlled by the banking system.
Now, that's a line I said back in 2013.
And now it's never been more important because now they are actually going after people's bank accounts to a greater scale, not just bail-in regimes.
But we have this massive amount of inflation.
They printed 25% of the currency ever in existence in the United States just last year.
And on top of the privacy issue, we also have an obvious monetary issue and an obvious issue with technocracy and social credit.
Just to interject there, yeah, I mean in New Zealand, well Australia in particular, they are confiscating people's bank accounts in order to recover, quote, fines for COVID violations, which could be that you just went to the grocery store, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
Right.
And then, as you said, the money printing is a massive coordinated looting of the American pocketbook.
So whatever you've earned, you're supposed to be able to own the product of your labor and to be able to set that aside, maybe save it for a rainy day.
Well, now the government's reaching in and just looting all your savings, you know, obviously through monetary devaluation, i.e. inflation.
And new inflation numbers have come out this morning or last night.
And it was like even the government's admitting it's eight point something percent, which means it's probably 25 percent.
Right.
Yeah.
At this point, we're likely even 25 to 30 percent.
If you look at John Williams shadow stats, which actually based the inflation numbers on the original model from the 70s and early 80s until it changed around the end of Paul Volcker's tenure.
We're dealing with 25 to 30 percent and don't expect it to go any lower than 60 percent by this time next year.
And realistically speaking, it could be a lot more than that.
And on top of that, we have an imminent supply chain crisis, which is obviously created on purpose.
Look, they want a civil war.
We need to fight, but also...
When we do, they'll use it against us.
And right now, you get paid more to stay at home than work.
And on top of that already existing crisis, they're firing everybody.
And all these people are going to be dropping in the winter from autoimmune disorders that cause the flu and the cold, et cetera, from these vaccines.
So what we're dealing with is an imminent crisis.
And the only way to protect yourself, yes, you should have gold and silver.
You should also have privacy coins to get around the government's oversight.
And that includes things like Epic Cash.
That includes things like, for example, Light Cash, which is another one, Pyrrachain, Monero, You should diversify in privacy coins and find every way possible to avoid being watched by the watchful eye of the state.
And that also will include getting rid of these things eventually.
These phones are, unfortunately to many, an unwitting tool of the establishment where they are tracking, tracing, and everything you write on this, maybe they can't legally do it now, but everything you write on this, every keystroke, will eventually be used against you in the next five to ten years.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Let me ask you, so currently I own no crypto cornage whatsoever.
I've been focused on building warehouses and fulfillment systems and hard infrastructure.
But if I were to own crypto, and if I wanted to get into some of these privacy coins, and some of our listeners are interested, a couple of questions, and I want to ask you, like, number one, what's the easiest way to actually do that?
But secondly, Aren't you tracked getting into it?
You know, the on-ramps and the off-ramps, how do you avoid being tracked like that?
I mean, do I have to meet somebody in a parking lot, give them cash, and he gives me some crypto, right?
Like, how do we establish origins of privacy in getting into the system?
I have sold crypto over 100 times in parking lots.
So that's not a joke, right?
No, really.
And also, I mean, we have to remember it's a black market.
Before marijuana, when marijuana used to be super taboo, where were people getting marijuana?
I mean, let's be realistic.
Unfortunately, yes, you can go online and you could buy with a bank account and a credit card over the exchanges.
I don't recommend that.
I've never done that myself.
But there are people in the community that are happy to help.
There's people, friends of yours, I'm sure, that wouldn't mind selling a little bit of Bitcoin here and there.
And then, of course, there's Bitcoin ATMs.
And it's really easy to get a SIM card number.
And in places like Mexico, you could get a SIM card and never use a passport or identification.
Now there's those that aren't really that worried anyway about the tax system.
And I'm not advocating anything, but some people will just say, okay, KYC, know your customer, send in a face shot.
And it's like, okay, let's see them come and collect it.
Because at the end of the day, and I'm again, not advocating this, but it's something that is possible to happen.
You get your Bitcoin, you send it into Monero and send it back to Bitcoin and they've already lost the trace.
So, you know, I lost my Bitcoin in a boating accident.
It's a common joke.
Like I'm riding a boat and my phone went overboard and now I don't have my Bitcoin.
Prove that I'm wrong.
So, I mean, there's a lot of that to be said.
But yeah, the number one way that I would suggest people buy crypto is through a friend or through localbitcoins.com in person and bring that other investment with you when you do that.
And that is bullets because you need to defend yourself in that case because if you're dealing with a lot of money, that's probably a good idea.
But this is going to become more and more common over the next decade.
And there are different ways to get crypto online through exchanges without giving them your identification.
But honestly, I would say the safest bet is to deal in person and then sell into things like Vite Wallet, which is a decentralized exchange.
Vite is an app you can get on your phone and you could send Bitcoin through cross-chain transaction there.
And then you could go buy something like Epic on the exchange and there's no one in charge of the exchange.
It's decentralized.
Okay, so I used to run my own Bitcoin wallet, and I actually had a solar array, and I was mining Bitcoin and originating it myself because we had extra solar power.
And then years ago, I ended up selling that for gold just so I could sleep at night.
So I'm familiar with running a wallet and everything, but let me just ask you, this is a question for me and our community.
If we wanted to have a crypto layer of a tipping system on Brighttown.com, where people could obviously tip content creators using crypto, is there a system like that that you're aware of?
And I'm genuinely asking because we're really interested in something like that to enable that interaction between people.
Yeah, the best way to do that is through things like Lightning payments on Bitcoin.
And again, you could put a Monero wallet on Brighteon as well and trade it into that.
So if you don't want to hold Bitcoin, and I don't blame you.
I barely own any Bitcoin myself.
But if you don't want to do that, I don't blame you and you could do that.
There's certain social medias out there like Float.app, which is the alternative to Facebook that's been being built over the last three years.
That's flote.app.
And they had a tipping system.
And originally what happened, and this was the problem that came with it, was that the Bitcoin fees were too high.
So what happened was they had to basically stop doing that for a period of time.
And figure out a way around that.
Now that Lightning is becoming bigger because El Salvador adopted Bitcoin as their official currency, now it's becoming a more applicable thing to use.
And again, that is if you like Bitcoin.
There are many ways you can put in tipping options for Monero as well.
I haven't done that myself.
I'm a money guy more than a coder.
But I would say that you could easily be able to embed something in that.
It's all about talking to the right dev team, I suppose, because It's a new world, so we're really building a new infrastructure for, not a new world order, I want to be clear, a new world and a new civilization.
And again, that's part of creating a new civilization to outdo the old one because tyranny comes under the guise of convenience and so we have to create convenient things.
To replace that.
And we aren't going back in time.
We're going digital.
I don't like it as much as the next guy.
But the fact is, we are and we can't go, oh, well, you know, they're creating this massive grid around us, this web, and I'm just going to use gold.
That's cool and all.
But if we're creating a competitive system to outdo them, because evolution is always better than revolution, we need to evolve in certain ways and find new ways to do it in our favor to benefit us while this enslavement racket is being webbed all around us.
And by the way, folks, we're down to the last minute here on brighttown.tv.
We're going to have an extended conversation on brighttown.com.
But what I wanted to mention, Josh, is I see really kind of an urgency to have a fully developed alternative decentralized crypto systems because the dollar collapse is approaching.
And if we don't have somewhere else to go, if that infrastructure does not exist, it's going to be a real emergency.
And people are going to be ready at that time to go ahead and just take that leap.
Like, full faith and credit of the United States government, what a joke.
That's done.
Where do we go now?
But that infrastructure's got to be ready.
It can't just be, you know, magic wanded out of thin air.
Well, look at what we're heading into, Mike.
We're heading into the Great Reset.
We're heading into supply chain crunch, climate lockdowns.
We have a UN Agenda 2030 on the horizon, Bill Gates owning all that farmland, vaccine fruits and vegetables being created.
I mean, come on.
It's never been more important in the history of the world to get prepared in every which way as far as being prepared with food, water, shelter, self-defense, and, of course, a new currency that's private and is not tracked.
This is it.
This is a moment we've all been waiting for.
And if we don't act now, we lose the war on humanity.
And we cannot afford to do that because we are put on Earth for one thing, humanity, individualism, individual responsibility.
If we don't protect that, then what are we on Earth for?
All right.
Well said.
That's Josh from World Alternative Media, folks.
We're going to wrap up the BrightTown.TV interview right now.
We'll have an extended conversation on Brighteon.com.
We can have a lot more to talk about.
I've got more questions for Josh.
Thank you for watching today.
Feel free to share and repost this video anywhere you'd like.
I'm Mike Adams, founder of Brighteon.
Take care and get ready for what's coming.
All right.
Thank you, Josh, for standing by.
Yeah, so lots and lots of questions.
One of the things that I find really admirable about your experience and your observations of the world is that you have traveled so much.
Now, most Americans have not lived outside the country.
You've traveled extensively.
You live in Mexico.
I used to live in Ecuador.
I lived in Taiwan.
I've traveled throughout Southeast Asia, Central America, South America, Europe, and so on.
And when you travel a lot, You get a very different perspective, especially reading newspapers in English outside the United States.
Isn't that a mind trip right there?
Oh, yeah.
Well, I mean, one of the big ones was living in Egypt, because Arabic is about as difficult a language as you could possibly imagine.
And, you know, I learned, it took me about four months, I learned how to read Arabic, but I don't know what any of the words mean.
I just know the sounds they make.
Because after four months, I'm like, okay, now I have to actually learn this new language.
It's like, great.
I know how to read the sounds, but I don't know, you know.
So I think, yeah, it's a trip.
And something that is actually easy to get around generally, I'm sure you've dealt with this yourself many times, it's that you tend to be able to communicate with most people with their hands and with a few basic words.
The only downside is it's lonely.
You can't really have a conversation with people.
You look like an idiot to everyone because if you don't know the language, everyone just assumes you're stupid.
So you can't have meaningful conversations and then you have to do everything over the internet.
So yeah.
It's a trip.
And Arabic was the worst.
And actually, I once hitchhiked across West Africa.
So I landed in Spain across the Strait of Gibraltar and hitchhiked down Morocco, Western Sahara, through a minefield into Mauritania, Africa, and then into the middle by Mali.
And I'll tell you...
And they speak Arabic, a weird kind of Arabic too.
They speak French.
I'm Canadian.
I don't know French though.
I know like five words in French.
And then some of them speak a little bit of Farsi and some of them speak a little bit of Spanish.
Spanish saved my life.
I know basic Spanish enough that traveling across this country, we're at one place in a minefield, dead bodies in the minefield and the border closed in.
And to get through, we had to stay at a hostel.
And they put us in some room covered in black mold with a Hello Kitty pillow and weird jumping bugs everywhere.
I mean, literal raw sewage rolling outside of the window.
And we're thinking, wow, what did I get myself into?
And we didn't know how to converse with these people at all.
And it was an emergency situation.
And thank God we knew a little bit of Spanish because we were able to kind of navigate around it and manage to get what we needed.
And as far as what we needed, it was sleeping basically on a floor covered in bugs all night and waking up to Muslim prayer in the next room.
It was an interesting scenario, but it's something that a lot of travelers deal with.
You know, that life experience is very valuable, to see the world from a different point of view.
And I'm glad you mentioned the difficulty with language.
I had experience in Taiwan.
It was after I'd lived there about a year, year and a half, and I could speak it pretty well.
But I never learned how to read Chinese because you have to literally memorize thousands of characters.
And so I got lost in Taipei on my motor scooter.
And I did not know where I was.
And I couldn't read the road signs.
But I could talk to people and ask them, what do the signs say?
So, of course, they're like, are you an idiot?
Why don't you just read the sign?
I'm like, I can't read.
Please tell me, what street is this?
Which way is north?
Right.
It was so it was very humbling.
Right.
To be thought of as a moron.
It's a really beautiful experience to be put in those situations, though.
That's what builds your experience more than anything, more than any book, really.
I mean, look, I'm all for everyone reading up and studying and all that kind of stuff, but real-life experiences are what builds a person's brain.
I mean, a quick example I have is I was doing exploration of ancient places around Egypt, and I ended up in the town of Luxor, Egypt.
Now, Luxor is famous worldwide, but it's a very small town covered in...
It's just donkeys and camels and stuff, and very little infrastructure.
And I needed to catch a bus at 6 in the morning at this hotel.
It's the most famous hotel in town.
I get into a taxi.
This guy has no idea where the most famous hotel in town is.
It's like a 10-story building.
It's the only 10-story building.
He doesn't know how to get there.
He's bringing me down back roads, and I'm getting closer and closer.
It's five minutes before.
At this point, I left an hour and a half early.
It's five minutes at this point before the bus leaves.
And I said, okay, just stop.
I'm walking.
I don't know what you're doing.
You're bringing me down random alleyways.
I gave him half of the money because the guy was, I think, purposely doing it.
He was trying to bring me to friends to sell me stuff.
Sure.
I took my bag and I just started climbing through people's yards and climbing over people's fences and stuff.
Because I saw on the map it's over here, but there was no road to get there.
And I'm walking through someone's yard.
This guy's milking a goat.
And I walk by and I'm like, hey, yeah, just in English, like, hey, I got to go that way.
Your wall's in the way.
Can I go through?
He's like, okay.
And climbing over walls, and I ended up on top of a parking garage with no way to get down, and someone had to bring me a ladder.
It's events like that that really are, to me, the most important.
It's experiences like that that really kind of build a person's brain and strategize, allow you to strategize better, putting yourself in a situation that most people would be scared to be in.
Absolutely.
And I think this is why people like you and I are kind of forward-looking free thinkers, too, because we've been out there physically in the world.
We've been adventurers, and we've been in sticky situations.
And you've got to think outside the box, and it becomes ingrained in who you are.
But here's a question for you.
Didn't you find that most people in most places around the world are actually pretty nice people, aren't they?
Absolutely.
The nicest people I've ever met were actually in the middle of the Sahara Desert and around Syria, Iraq, Turkey.
It's very interesting because you hear all this stuff on TV and it's always propaganda.
It's like the same about Mexico.
You know, arm and fun cartels cause all this violence, send human traffickers through, and then they try to flee the country and everyone yells at them.
And it's the same as Middle East, you know, arm and fun terrorists blow up a country and then people are surprised when they're leaving.
And the media on both sides, Fox and CNN both, will just collide you with this controlled opposition narrative about these people so that you hate these people that you don't know anything about.
And one of the things I really noticed in places like, for example, the Sahara Desert was people in the middle of nowhere.
I'm talking literally 130 degrees.
It's the hottest temperature I could ever possibly imagine.
Middle of the Sahara Desert, hottest region in the world.
No one has an air conditioner.
No one works during the day.
They sleep in the shadows in the day and work at night.
But no alcohol, no drugs or anything like that.
So there's also a better spirit.
People aren't acting irrational as much.
Same as Egypt.
And then I'm noticing these people in Mauritania, they're all smiling all the time.
And I walk by and they say, hey, if you want to stay at our house, you can stay at our house.
I'll sleep on the lawn.
It's like, you'll sleep on the lawn?
You don't even know me.
You met me five seconds ago.
And it's a really beautiful thing.
And then also there's this superiority complex that a lot of Americans, Canadians and British and Israelis and people like that have traveling to other places as if other people care about you being there.
Like you walk down the street and yeah, of course, there's some people that look at you and go, hey, there's a white guy.
That's weird.
But most people don't care.
And I remember I went traveling with one guy once and he says to this bartender in the Middle East, he says, so what do you think about us being here?
and the guy says, I don't think of you at all.
And I thought, oh, you know, burn.
But you know, it's true though, because you know, they're really nice people and they don't take things for granted.
You know, when you're in the most impoverished place in the world, and then you come back to this side of the world and everyone's complaining about absolutely everything, in many cases, they have a right to do that, of course, but to another level and And then the people that are always calling out privilege, privilege, privilege are always the most privileged people.
I mean, it really goes to show the kind of situation we're in.
And I want to mention one thing.
When I was in Mauritania, I was climbing through a town called Wadan.
And by climbing, I mean it's on the side of a mountain, ancient mud shacks from thousands of years ago.
And I'm climbing through this little area as the sun is setting.
It was a beautiful moment.
And this little girl comes out of a house with a bucket, a bucket of water.
She's wearing American clothes.
She must have been maybe five or six.
And she speaks five languages.
And she's like, bonjour, monsieur.
And she starts talking to me.
And it was such a beautiful thing because it's like this girl has never been to school.
She has a personality more than any kid I know in the United States or Canada.
And she knows all these languages.
And she's also helping her family go get water.
And she's building things.
And that is what we have lost in this side of the world.
The reason why Western civilization was built up was because of independence.
And we've lost it.
We've become dependent slaves.
Maybe not you or I, but most people, the vast majority of people, have.
No one knows how to build a house anymore.
No one knows how to grow their own food.
And that, of course, was by the script.
That has no purpose.
I actually want to ask you about that because one of the things that I noticed wherever I went is that people were a lot more practical than typical Americans today.
So people could do things with their hands.
They could fix problems.
They knew how to handle livestock.
They knew how to grow food.
They knew how to repair electricity problems.
All kinds of things.
They could fix things in ways that they taught me, like how to fix a broken hose.
Right?
So in Ecuador, it was baling wire and a nail.
And you wrap it around and you twist it around and boom, it's done.
In America, we run out to Home Depot five times and try to get the right size diameter clamp.
Turns out you don't need that.
All you need is baling wire and a nail.
But I learned that from those people.
What did you see in terms of people having practical skills all around the world?
Well, a great example is Mexico because, as you know, I live in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, and there's a huge freedom community forming.
But moreover, it's just because, look, anywhere you go in the world, people are afraid of government and unfortunately comply with government.
There's no actual example of that not being the case anywhere in the world.
That includes Mexico.
If the government or the establishment says you have to do something, most people comply.
Though the vaccine rates are extremely low here, which is nice.
The mask rate has always been really high, which I've always found interesting because people fell for that fear.
They're walking on the beach with masks.
It's absurd.
However, while people are weak when it comes to the voice of the state in all places, for the most part, and even in Texas, I was in Austin.
Wow.
It's amazing in some of the places that are more independent what you see.
At the end of the day, what happens is when society collapses, it's the people in these places, even if they're in fear at first, they're forced into the world to go take care of themselves, and they do.
In places like Mexico, for example, there's mangoes on the trees, avocados, jackfruits, there's rivers and ocean, there's fish, and everyone knows how to fish.
If you don't know how to fish, there's something wrong with you.
There's children who are growing up Basically bathing in swamps with mud in them and crocodiles.
I mean, I've literally seen close by where I live here, a bunch of kids swimming around with shampoo and stuff, and they're washing in the swamp.
Probably a good version of a vaccine, if anything, if you're swimming in dirty water like that.
And there's literally a crocodile swimming around.
And the kids just started laughing and throwing little pebbles at the crocodile.
And I'm just thinking, this is insane.
But none of the parents are freaking out because people have been so coddled in most places.
They can't imagine this happening, and myself included.
So, I mean, it's...
It is interesting from that perspective.
Also, we have to remember how this was all laid out.
I mentioned China before, but China, it's really interesting how they've manipulated television so much in places like the United States and elsewhere, as well as film, and presented this feminine male as the example of men.
But meanwhile, now we see in China, they're banning effeminate men from television.
They are banning too high a level of entertainment and basically telling people to go out and find ways to be independent, which is very interesting because it's the opposite of what you'd expect from China after all these years.
And the reason is it's a global takeover and they're trying to weaken a certain culture so another one can rise up on top.
And it's not all China.
The US government propped up China to do this.
The US government is...
The main culprit behind this, because remember, Japan was going to beat China back in World War II, and the U.S. made sure to pulverize Japan and basically paralyze them in order for China to prop up FDR armed and funded Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam and created the Vietnam War.
The same with Korea, the creation of North Korea, and it goes on and on and on.
It's a problem reaction solution situation, and now it's got us on our knees, dependent like slaves.
Well, let me ask you then, let's talk about global finance because you brought up China and you're exactly right.
The culture of war is all engineered and it's extraordinary how quickly the sheep will go along with it where suddenly what a third of youth in America today consider themselves to be LGBTs.
Just out of nowhere.
You know, it's blue hair and piercings and transgender everything.
It's trendy.
It's right.
It's a trend.
It's a fad, but it's pushed by pop culture.
But in terms of finance now, China, there are a couple of theories.
One theory, if you look back at Japan in the late 1980s, Japan, its stock market was skyrocketing.
The Nikkei was through the roof.
The property values in Tokyo alone were so high that people could use small pieces of real estate in Tokyo as assets.
And they were going out and buying Australia and New Zealand and the west coast of America and so on.
There was a big Japanese takeover.
That ended in 1989 with the crash of the Nikkei.
Some people believe that the same thing is happening with China, with the beginning of the crash of Evergrande and some of the other property developer Ponzi companies that are beginning to be toppled.
But then at the same time, the United States dollar is headed for disaster.
So it's almost like a race to the bottom.
Which one's going to go first?
What do you think about global finance?
Well, I actually think, and you mentioned something very important there, because there is this view of China being too big to fail, which always ends up with failure.
I mean, what we've seen recently with China and with Evergrande, for example, it's clear that they are in some sort of desperation mode or else it wouldn't be pushing things so fast.
But there's more to it, I think.
And I think it's more of a...
I think China is a representation of a guinea pig state that the U.S. helped prop up over time with artificial alliances and trade, import, export monopolies.
What they wanted to do was create an idea, not necessarily the country itself.
When the country is finished, they'll throw it under the bus, just like they threw Hillary Clinton under the bus after her evil was too obvious for most people to actually support her.
They will throw things under the bus once they're done with them, once they've achieved what they wanted.
So that's where the United Nations comes in, the World Health Organization, the IMF.
I mean, what they've been doing with China is trying to crop up what the world will look like with a global technocratic dictatorship.
Instead, when China collapses and it eventually will, it's a move into the special drawing rights of the IMF, a world currency that's digital and also artificial intelligence.
I mean, people don't realize how close we are to artificial intelligence, being able to design artificial intelligence, which means we're done.
As human beings, the natural cycle of things says that we're going to be wiped off the face of the planet.
So for many reasons, I think this is really important because yes, the US dollar is collapsing, but that causes order out of chaos.
And honestly, I think they want it to happen and they could push it off longer than a lot of us could imagine.
I mean, many of us for many, many years were saying, how long could this possibly happen?
They papered over the recession in 2008.
The amount of derivatives going through the banks, the cash deposit ratios that all the banks show that almost everyone in the world is bankrupt, as it is, because most of them have less than 1% of their deposits covered in cash.
I mean, it is a huge crisis.
So why do they continue to do it?
Well, in one way, it temporarily controls us.
That's true.
It definitely temporarily controls us for the time being.
But the greater agenda is that it will lead into a massive era of dependency when all these currencies collapse everywhere, including China, including the United States, including Canada and everywhere else.
What's going to happen is people are going to be dependent and beg for help from the state, from FEMA, from other emergency protocol units in different countries around the world.
And what then will happen is people will probably get free bank accounts, like we saw in India tested several years ago under Modi.
They will get free passes and if you're good to people, if you're nice to people or supportive of the government, your credit score will go up and that's the exact perfect segue into a social credit system.
I think we are honestly about one, maybe two years away from it at this point, but I don't like to put dates on things.
It just seems like things are so hazardous right now.
We have to be on the precipice.
So I think, yes, in the short term, China was used as this tool, and now they actually are collapsing to some degree.
They are in the face of collapse.
So they are going after people in any way they can to try and strengthen their numbers.
That's why they're telling their citizens to be independent, while the United States topples over in the face of wokeness.
But I think it generally doesn't matter that much.
I think the long-term goal is what matters the most, and that's going to be the global currency.
That'll be the global government.
And just wait till we see what happens this winter when people's immune systems are shattered from this vaccine, and they blame it on the unvaccinated, and they come after us in a much more superior way because...
Because remember, they always came after us by consent.
For many years, it was always by consent.
It wasn't by force.
It was by fear.
It was by pushing people into comfortable situations.
They want to be comfortable and enslaved.
Ignorance is bliss.
Now they will come after us by a conquest.
And there won't be many of us left for them to go after by a conquest.
I mean, there are more of us around the world than we realize, but there's going to be a much smaller amount of people to go after when everyone's dropping dead in the next several years.
So I think...
There is a lunatic zombie mob that's going to come after us.
And thank God we don't have a democracy in America.
The whole point of the Bill of Rights is to protect the rights of the individual against the lunacy of the mob.
But the question in my mind has been, how quickly does the die-off kick in?
And how large will these mobs be as they lose their minds?
Because the other thing, Josh, and I know you're aware of this, there are personality changes that are taking place after people get vaccinated.
And it's kind of, I've described it as, it's taking away their higher cognition functions, and it's sort of reverting them to a reptilian brainstem.
So, you know, we talk about David Icke's reptilian takeover.
Like, it's actually here.
They just don't look like lizards, but they act like lizards.
You know what I mean?
It's the reptilian brainstem.
But there have been so many cases of people who got vaccinated and then their personality changed and they became animalistic and angry and aggressive, focused on feeding and, you know, just the fight or flight type of response.
That's happening now.
Absolutely.
And by the way, I want to point out, David Icke has always been absolutely right about this.
And people called him crazy for years, myself included, to some degree.
I'm friends with Garrett Icke and Jamie Icke, and I think what they do is amazing.
But the way he put it, it was reptilians and reptilians.
That sounds crazy.
I understand why it sounds crazy, because people don't understand reptilians.
The ancient background of this.
These elites are worshiping an ancient religious practice.
Basically, if you research ancient Egypt and ancient pagan culture, Sumerian culture, Mayan culture, Olmec culture, you realize that the elites of the world are obsessed with this kind of stuff.
And that's why when people ask me, why aren't people like Bill Gates worried about killing off only the most complacent, stupid people and leaving only the most intelligent, cognitive people left?
Well, isn't he worried that they're going to lynch him or something?
And I say, well, no.
And that's why you should be worried.
He isn't worried at all about that.
He isn't worried.
It's not about control or money long term.
That's just a temporary side effect.
I think this is a massive extermination.
I think this is a massive human sacrifice.
It's a religious ceremony that they're doing.
And you mentioned people's personalities changing.
Vaccines for years and years, as you know, have had a level of gene therapy in them.
For example, genes for girls are being injected into boys without anyone actually differentiating.
It's led to a lot of this trans-wokeness over the past several years where people are confused about their gender.
It's not their fault.
They're being injected with substances that actually change their whole genetic makeup as far as confusing them between boy and girl.
Also, the education system, and I know this because I have a young sibling who is still in school, they have been going after children in the schools and telling them at the age of nine, for example, that all girls are bisexual.
That's a weird thing to tell a nine-year-old.
And then around 11, saying there are no genders.
It's indoctrination camps.
It's the media.
It's trendiness.
And as you mentioned, the majority of people, well, not the majority, but over 30, I think 39% was the number of people are LGBTQ in Generation Z and under.
And that is extremely concerning because it's a depopulation agenda.
And the whole idea is first make it so people can have children.
Second, make it so they don't want children.
Third, make them unhappy, which that will ensue.
And fourth, make them part of the new family, the collectivist family.
Because they don't have any family, they don't have any loved ones, and because they think they're misunderstood, even though they're promoted, they become part of the crowd.
And that makes them part of this robotic mass that, by the way, it's DoubleThink.
They think they're unique by joining the crowd.
Right.
That is exactly what they're doing.
And now with these vaccines, it's doing that very same thing as well.
It's changing people's gender identities.
It's causing, also on top of that, under the guise of health, we need to get this vaccine, they say.
Well, heart attack rates are skyrocketing.
That we all know.
But what about cancer?
The level of cancer right now, I know three people personally in my life who got the jab and died of cancer within two weeks.
And another person who's terminal with cancer, most likely right now, and I'm not promoting this, it's really interesting because I have Laetrile.
I use Laetrile every day.
I think people need to know about this stuff instead of falling...
For the enslavement racket, the money racket, the depopulation racket that is Big Pharma, which I know you've been going into for many years.
And by the way, I do want to thank you because you're one of the first people that woke me up to this way back in around 2007.
I'd watch you on Infowars and other places, and I remember just thinking, you know, I got the money part.
I get the false flag part.
I get all this, but...
They are destroying us from within.
And you helped expose me to that.
So I really appreciate that, by the way.
Wow.
This is the biggest part of the agenda is our health.
Well, we're all in this together, those of us who are pro-human.
And I know that slogan has been misused by, you know, the vaccine pushers.
They want to say we all have to comply.
No, no, no, no.
We have to defend humanity.
We are on team humanity.
And those vaccine pushers, they are suicidal zombies and monsters and Satanists, okay?
And many of them are not going to be here, even in six months.
But unfortunately, Josh, we're out of time for today.
It flew by.
We could get into many, many deep topics.
You're obviously very well informed and you've had amazing experiences to share with people.
I'm so glad that you're using our platform, Brighteon and others, to get the word out.
And I want to encourage people to check out your videos because they're fascinating.
They're really fun to watch.
World Alternative Media is the channel name on Brighteon and BitChute and Rumble, Odyssey and other platforms.
Anywhere else you want to mention that people can find you?
Yeah, I'm at Josh Sigerson on float.app, F-L-O-T dot A-P-P. And yeah, I really appreciate it.
I am on one mainstream platform.
That's Twitter, WorldAltMedia.
I try to get people off, but I use the platform to try and get people off.
But with that said, I appreciate the work you do.
I really appreciate the support that Brighteon has given my channel over the last several months.
And I hope that everyone goes, checks out my interviews and documentaries.
And I have a lot of stuff coming out from all over the world, All over Europe, Asia, Middle East, Africa, etc.
So keep an eye on that.
And again, I appreciate all the work that you do.
Well, absolutely.
It's been a lot of fun and fascinating talking with you, and I hope we get a chance to do it again soon.
So keep up your great work.
You know, stay alive, stay active, stay online.
I mean, yeah, I know you're in Mexico, so you might avoid some of the chaos that's coming to America.
I'm in Texas.
I'm staying right where I am.
If we end up on the front lines, whatever, I'm going to be here helping Texas defend itself.
At the end of the day, we have to fight, we have to get community together, and we cannot give up.
And nothing, nothing should ever stand in our way of fighting for our own bodily autonomy.
Absolutely.
Well said.
All right.
So that was Josh Sigurdsson, folks, World Alternative Media.
And again, as always, feel free to repost this interview anywhere you'd like.
And even on Brighton, you can post it on your own channel on Brighton if you'd like.
And you can also edit it down if you want and just do highlights, right?
Whatever you want to do.
But thanks for watching today, folks.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighton.com.
And take heed.
Take heed.
This is serious stuff.
These are serious times.
These are biblical times.
Don't take this lightly.
You might want to watch this again because Josh said a lot of important things I didn't even get a chance to address.
And thank you, Josh, once again for joining us today.
Thank you.
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