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May 13, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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William Birnes interviewed by Mike Adams: Aliens walk among us, and they are running all the institu
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And what is their main purpose?
Since we are they, what is their main purpose?
Keep us alive.
So if we're gonna blow ourselves up, what are they gonna do?
They're gonna disable our nukes.
If we're gonna pollute the atmosphere, what are they gonna do?
They're gonna send a virus that is gonna reduce The human population so that we can still survive.
This is the sixth extinction of life on planet Earth that we're living through.
What if this time it's us?
Welcome, everyone, to Brighton Conversations.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com, where we have censored conversations.
Ooh, super secret conversations about things that you're not supposed to know about.
And that's why we invite on so many fascinating and intelligent guests who can talk about many different things.
And today we have a first-time guest, William Burns, who's the author of the big book of UFOs, facts and figures.
He's got another book we'll ask him about as well, about the history of UFOs among presidents and in the White House interactions.
But we've got a lot of questions for Mr. Burns here today.
Thank you for joining me today.
It's awesome to have you on.
I can't wait to ask you lots of interesting questions.
Oh, this is my pleasure.
This is my pleasure.
I'm enjoying this 100%.
Well, fantastic.
This is great to have you here.
So let me provide just a little bit of context so that our audience can synchronize with what we're about to talk about here, okay?
So everybody knows about the Nimitz UFO Tic Tac videos that came out, what was it, a couple years ago, was that now?
Yeah, they came out in, what was it, 2014, 2017?
Yeah.
And a lot of people, what's happening right now, Mr.
Burns, is that so many people are seeing the absolute fraud from the media, from election tampering, from the COVID scam, that people are now asking bigger and bigger questions like, hey, wait a minute, are we not alone?
Wait a minute, what happened in Roswell?
Well, things like that.
So I think this moment more than ever in American history, people are ready and willing to ask bigger questions about what's going on.
Would you agree with that assessment?
Oh, absolutely I would.
Mainstream media is business.
It's not some kind of magic divine thing.
It's there to make money.
I mean, that's what it is.
That's why if it bleeds, it leads.
But mainstream media is also constrained.
By a theory.
And here's the theory.
It's called the Overton theory.
It's a window, right?
It's a window.
If it's outside the window, you don't report it.
If it's inside the window, you can report it.
But the funny thing about the Overton window is that it expands and contracts.
And you see it now with this whole COVID-19 craze, right?
I mean, do you expand it to cover all kinds of cures?
Do you narrow it to only one thing?
You're watching its operation in that sphere, but you're also watching it with UFOs.
And that's why the big book, with all these facts and truths and stories from real live witnesses, breaks open the Overton window.
Now, I forgot to mention, by the way, your website is shadowlawnpress.com.
We'll put that on the screen for our viewers.
And your books are available at Amazon, Barnes& Noble, and booksellers everywhere.
On the site, they can order them from Amazon.
And what you just mentioned reminded me, I need to ask you this, it seems like the CIA techniques that were developed to discredit UFO researchers are, in fact, the same exact techniques that are now being used to attack people telling the truth about COVID or vaccines.
Isn't that interesting?
I could tell you a story about what CIA did after the Navy shot down TWA Flight 800.
They faked the whole video.
They created a whole narrative that was, by the way, false.
And then when the reporter, whose name was Jim Sanders, reported on it, guess what?
The FBI wanted to throw him in jail.
Yeah, yeah, well...
That's what happens.
I think a lot of people are familiar with TWA Flight 800.
It was obviously a missile.
It wasn't a fuel tank leak.
Please!
When we were shooting UFO hunters, I was out in New Mexico, and I saw a 747 on the tarmac at this airfield.
And so I asked this guy, you know, this guy from the...
NTSB, why was this here?
He said, oh, we're investigating the crash of Flight 800.
And I said, well, was it the central wing tank?
You know what the guy said to me?
This is NTSB. You know what he said?
No way.
Never in the history of the 747 have central wing tanks exploded, and this one didn't explode either.
And by the way, you know what we found out?
That on the rear seats, that on the rear of the business class seats where the front of the cabin split off from the plane, there was one compound on those seats that exists in only one place.
It was thermite.
And thermite is only in Navy warheads.
There you go.
Yeah, there you go.
But of course, it seems like facts don't matter anymore when the CIA is trying to cover things up.
But let's talk big, big cover-ups now because, you know, I'm a vaccine researcher and food science researcher, and most of our audience understands that there is a global depopulation agenda that's being run right now.
A lot of people thought that was a conspiracy theory, you know, until the last 18 months.
Now it's pretty convincing.
Let me ask you this.
Do you think, is there an extraterrestrial origin behind that in your view?
Do you have any insight on that?
Here's my theory about COVID and viruses and extraterrestrials.
First, viruses have been bombarding this planet for three and a half billion years.
Viruses probably instigated life on this planet.
I mean, you could look at viruses as somehow directed by aliens.
I mean, if I were part of an alien race, you know, I'm Jor-El from the planet Krypton.
And if I were part of an alien race and I wanted to migrate my race to a new planet, Would I send a million spaceships?
Of course not.
I'd send DNA. And how do I send the DNA? In a virus.
And we've seen how that happens.
We've just witnessed two strange-looking comets, Oumuamua and Borisov, sailing right through our system, spinning in waves.
Let me show you how they're orbiting, Mike.
Instead of orbiting, instead of spinning just like this, they're turning like this, and they're flopping over like this.
We've seen that before.
They're called lawn sprinklers.
Our planets are being populated with DNA from somewhere outside our solar system, and the whole point is, why?
Why?
Because they're populating our planets.
Well, this brings up so many questions about technology transfer as well.
Did the US military, in fact, acquire exotic genetic sequences that may have been from extraterrestrial origin and then add gain-of-function research to that through Fort Detrick, Maryland, through University of North Carolina, and then through Fauci and the NIH, funneling that to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China?
Is it possible that we could be dealing with a human Augmented non-terrestrial exotic gene sequence that now has been, of course, patented by the CDC and so on.
Is that a possibility?
It's a possibility.
Of course it is, because what we don't know is what happened at the Wuhan lab.
I mean, let's just say, let's be the most benign we can possibly be, okay?
Let's be, without any political opinions, let's just say that I'm a scientist and I know that bats or other animal, well, out here in Pennsylvania, you know who's carrying COVID-19?
The deer.
I heard that.
I heard that.
...among wild deer here in eastern Pennsylvania.
Well, let's say that I'm in a lab in Wuhan, and I want to know the nature of the strange virus that are there in bats.
So I capture a bat, I take it apart, I do the chemistry on it, I do whatever I do, and I infect myself.
Now, I didn't know that I've infected myself, but that's how it spreads.
And that's the most benign way of looking at it.
The most malicious way of looking at it is, hey, guess what?
Let's do a biological weapon.
Well, more and more evidence is coming out that this is absolutely a biological weapon.
I interviewed Dr.
Richard Fleming yesterday, who said the vaccine is the bioweapon.
There's no question.
They've put in prion segments.
They've put in HIV segments.
They've added these segments to attack the human immune system.
But then...
You have people reporting on seemingly bizarre phenomena such as magnetism or self-assembling nanoparticles, biocircuits, brain interfaces from graphene nanowires.
To a lot of people, that sounds like technology beyond Earth scientists.
Well, remember, too, that the mRNA vaccines...
Are dealing with the messenger proteins that affect your DNA. So it's not just you get protected from COVID. It's whatever is in that sequence is passed through your genes to the next generation and the next and the next.
Think of how viruses work, Mike.
Let's say that there's an early hominid, right?
Who's bounding along the Serengeti, right?
And he sees a mushroom shooting up out of an antelope, Patty.
Right?
The mushroom contains viruses that have been bombarding the planet.
That's how human beings evolve, because it goes through the RNA and it passes through successive generations.
We know that because of experiments that have been done, like Pottinger's cats, who showed how genes are passed through the RNA to succeeding generations.
We know that.
That's science.
Yeah, actually, I want to underscore what you're saying.
It's not even fringe science to say, I mean, the name of this theory is transpermia, I believe, which is viruses spreading.
I thought I even saw in some physics journals, not only studies that show viruses can, of course, survive reentry into Earth's atmosphere, but there were even some exotic, what are called extremophiles, Which are, you know, living organisms, small single-cell organisms that can go into hibernation mode and can survive space travel.
Yes!
That's what people don't realize.
That we think, oh, everything dies in space.
No.
Viruses are free-floating in space.
There are various life forms that can survive in space.
Our planet is being bombarded.
So, wouldn't it make sense if you're a scientist...
And you know our planet is being bombarded by viruses that are affecting animals, that are eating the plant life, that are scrubbing in the soil, that's transferred to humans.
Wouldn't you want to experiment with that?
I mean, that makes perfect sense.
But it escapes a lab and suddenly you've got a pandemic and everybody lies about it because they don't want the world to know.
But the fact is, the evidence is plain.
Yeah, and also it seems like that as technology advances, you know, it's easy for people to think that advanced extraterrestrial technology would build things bigger and bigger and bigger.
But in reality, the more advanced your civilization, the smaller and smaller and smaller you can build things.
At the nanometer scale or the femtometer scale, you get smaller and smaller, you can pack more information into small, compact things that can survive all of this.
In the Big Book of UFOs and in UFOs in the White House, we talk about that very moment that you just mentioned.
It was when President Harry Truman, and by the way, President Harry Truman, Was the second president to admit to the existence of UFOs.
The first president was George Washington.
Really?
George Washington?
Harry Truman goes on the radio in front of the press, just like we're talking now, and says, oh, these are flying saucers.
We know what they are.
That's what he says.
Folks can find it on YouTube, that quote.
So you've got U.S. presidents who know it, and what Harry Truman did Was President Truman went to George Marshall, right?
Remember the Marshall Plan?
And he said to George Marshall, take the lowest common denominator of the device that crashed at Roswell.
We talked about this in the big book in UFOs and the Presidents.
Take the lowest common denominator and bring that to whatever scientific entity is working on that.
And see if they can reverse engineer it.
And what was it?
It was the integrated circuit.
It was the switch that went to Bell Labs where Bertain and Shockley for 10 years had been working on a device they wanted to call a transistor that resists the current and then transmits a current one electron at a time.
They couldn't do it, Mike.
They tried and tried.
They couldn't do it.
What did it?
When they got that piece from the crash that crashed at Roswell, they found out that in the silicon, there was arsenic doping it.
That's what they did in one month.
They had a working model.
By the end of the year, 1947, by 1948, they had a patent.
By 1949, we were all walking around with our little radios on our ears.
I'm so glad you mentioned that.
I was actually having a conversation yesterday with someone about this, that the integrated circuit is actually a quantum device.
There's a quantum leap that happens that appears to defy the laws of physics, but it happens at such a small scale, and now we take it for granted because they'll put billions of these on a little microchip, and now we can have mobile phones and the internet and all this other stuff.
But as you described, we're really operating on alien technology, That was transferred here and then augmented.
But my question to you on that is, what about a lot of these crafts that are being sighted?
And specifically, what about the big, silent, football-field-sized triangular UFOs that have been sighted, I think, in Phoenix and parts of Europe?
And is that military tech, based on alien tech, Or is it something completely unknown?
What's your take?
Short answer, I think it's our own military tech based on alien tech.
And here's why.
Here's why.
The big triangular craft that was over Phoenix, which, by the way, when folks make comments about it, do you know who told us that he saw it and deliberately lied about it?
Wasn't it the former governor of Arizona?
Fife Symington.
That's right.
Get this, Mike.
Talk about how government works, okay?
You'll love this.
Fife Symington is in his backyard.
He sees the craft.
He tells us that he could see starlight waving through the craft, which told me one thing.
He says it was so close to him, he could take a rock and hit it.
So we said, well, if that's the case, Governor Symington, why didn't you just say it back in 1997?
Why are you waiting until 2009 to say it?
And he said, oh, I wanted to lighten the mood.
Okay.
Okay.
Gets better.
Gets better, Mike.
So then we speak to somebody from the Phoenix City Council, Francis Barwood, right?
Beam me up, Barwood.
And Francis Barwood said, wait a minute, Fife told you that he wanted to lighten the mood?
Hey, guess what?
The morning of the day...
That Fife Simington gave that fake news conference.
He was in judges chambers discussing his case for corruption.
So he's in judges chambers discussing a case.
He's going to go to jail.
That afternoon, he has a fake press conference.
Then you know what he told us?
He told us this 10 years later.
Here's what he said.
Oh, after all that, I've got a Mark Rich partner from Bill Clinton.
Uh-huh.
There we go.
Right.
Yeah.
It was negotiated.
That's very clear.
But one of the big concerns that a lot of really well-informed people have right now, and I'll say, by the way, Anybody who doesn't realize that we're not alone in the universe is not informed.
Because, come on, there's so much evidence.
But a lot of people are concerned about, I think, what's being generally referred to as a cosmic false flag scenario where the U.S. government fakes an alien invasion to enslave people.
What are your thoughts about that scenario?
The whole theory about that called Blue Origin.
And the theory of Blue Origin is the government concocts I mean, what did Ronald Reagan say?
Now, remember, Ronald Reagan had two clean UFO sightings.
Once, when he was doing Death Valley Days back in the 1950s, he was riding down Pacific Coast Highway, and a UFO came over, and Ronald Reagan's daughter said that, oh, he got a message from the UFO to get out of that and go into politics.
I can't substantiate that, but Reagan said, Also, when he was governor of California, had an astounding UFO sighting.
He was flying in his plane from LA to Sacramento.
They see a UFO over the Mojave Desert, and Reagan says to his pilot, basically, follow that flying saucer.
And they go out over the Mojave Desert.
The UFO, the flying saucer, sees the gubernatorial plane and takes off.
So when Reagan gets up before the UN and says, if aliens were threatening this planet, wouldn't our petty differences disappear?
He's not talking from speculation.
He's not a nutcase.
He's not a wild guy.
He's talking from his own personal observation of a UFO. And you've got a whole book that talks about presidents with UFO sightings and what they've known, what they didn't know.
Give us a little brief about that, but also let me ask you, did JFK, because I think in retrospect, JFK is now seen by a lot of people as someone who was really trying to expose the system.
Look at the memo he wrote.
JFK wrote a memo.
To all the heads of the military, all branches, and ordered them as commander-in-chief to release all of their files on UFOs to get this, you ready?
To the Soviet Union.
You want to know why?
Because he said, we're going to the moon, and he didn't want the Soviets to mistake our rockets for UFOs.
That's Kennedy.
Here's another Kennedy piece.
Talk about why Kennedy got himself into trouble, not just with Dr.
Feelgood, but with Marilyn Monroe and other people.
Kennedy was whispering pillow talk to Marilyn Monroe.
Now, remember, Monroe had an affair with Bobby Kennedy and an affair with Jack Kennedy.
And Joe Sr.
said, get rid of her.
After Jack dumped her and after Bobby dumped her, she leaves a message on the Department of Justice call line in which she threatens Bobby Kennedy and says, I'm going to tell the truth about my affair with your brother Jack, and I'm going to tell the whole world.
I've already told Dorothy Kilgallen about this, and look what happened to Dorothy Kilgallen.
But I'm going to tell Dorothy Kilgallen about this, that Jack told me about this little airbase in Nevada with these things that fell from outer space and these little men that are there.
Now, okay, you could say that that's Kennedy talking, but Marilyn Monroe's phone was tapped by two agencies, the FBI, because Hoover hated the Kennedys, and the CIA, because the CIA knew that Marilyn Monroe was a problem.
And In the tape, when they do the transcripts, at the bottom of the transcript, there are all the file designations.
Like, what do you do with this transcript?
Do you throw it out?
Do you put it in a file drawer?
Do you put it in a desk?
What do you do?
The file designations were Operation Blue Fly and Operation Moon Dust, the two files that cataloged material that came from outer space.
Wow.
This is the highlight of my day, by the way, being able to talk with you and ask you all these questions.
I've got a ton of questions.
Okay, let's talk about the moon and what's really on the moon and the dark side of the moon because I don't know if you know, I'm actually a lab scientist.
I run a food science lab, mass spec instruments and so on.
And if I were a scientist in charge of unlimited budgets and I wanted to know what's going on out there, I would put observation equipment on the dark side of the moon.
Of course!
Right?
All kinds of optical, gravimetric, I'd be looking for gravity waves.
Scans of it, sure.
Exactly.
So do you think that that exists on the dark side of the moon?
Yes, I do.
I think that, first of all, in the story of the moon, one of the greatest stories is NASA wrote a report about lunar anomalies dating all the way back from the 17th century.
Folks can find it online.
I think it's RB47 or something.
It's got its own designation.
And it tells the entire story of lunar anomalies.
In one of the stories, in one of the stories, in the New York Post from the 1920s, a reporter said, gee, I'm seeing structures being constructed on the moon.
And then a week later, they're gone.
That's what the person said.
The Germans, the Nazis in the 1930s were looking at the moon and said there were structures on the moon.
NASA had two missions, actually three, Apollo 18, 19, 20.
And supposedly they were crewed missions.
And then all of a sudden NASA said, oh, no, no, we're transferring them to the International Space Station instead of the moon.
But videos that you could still get there on YouTube show that there were craft on the moon.
And astronauts were looking in the craft and seeing figures.
It's the Mona Lisa video.
But even better than that, because I can't substantiate that, what I can substantiate was this.
NASA executive Donna Hare, she's a NASA scientist, was looking at a printout Of images from the dark side of the moon.
And she's seeing this triangular, black triangular shape in a crater.
And she says, what's that doing there?
And the photo specialist takes an airbrush and brushes it out.
And she said, what are you doing?
And he said, oh, we can't show UFOs on the moon.
Okay, well then, let me ask you about Mars because I've even done a podcast on this where NASA has told us for decades that Mars has an atmospheric pressure of 0.6% of Earth's atmospheric pressure at sea level.
And then, recently, NASA over the last year and a half has claimed to have launched a helicopter flying around Mars.
And I mean, anybody who understands flight dynamics, you can't fly a helicopter without an atmosphere, obviously.
Of course.
What's going on?
There's lift.
Right.
No atmosphere, no lift.
Exactly.
So doesn't that, I mean, they're sending back video of their helicopter flying around.
There's only two possibilities.
Either they're faking it or Mars has an atmosphere.
Somebody from JPL told me this, that when you see photographs of Mars, you know, from the Martian terrain and the sky is red, it's not red.
It's blue.
It's blue.
I've heard that before.
It's high.
So if there's enough atmosphere that's the right chemical makeup and breathable, then wouldn't it make sense that there are already human colonies on Mars?
Wouldn't it make sense that there was life on Mars long before there was life on Earth?
That's right.
Here's my prediction.
My prediction is that in this decade, in fact, before the end of this decade, we will find Mars.
Either microbial life on Mars or life on Mars larger than microbial life.
Because there is water under the surface of Mars.
Where there's water, right?
Agua S, Vita S. Where there's water, there's life.
Well, absolutely.
And wasn't it the first Viking lander, I think, in the 1970s that had a mass spec experiment?
1976, they picked up methane.
It was proof of microbial life engaging in biology at the time.
In fact, wasn't it...
Who's the pop science guy who talks about billions and billions and billions?
Oh, Carl Sagan.
Yeah, Sagan.
Didn't he call the scientists at NASA and congratulate him on the greatest discovery in the history of the world?
Let me tell you about two of those scientists that you want to know about.
Carl Sagan and J. Allen Hynek.
You know what they both knew?
Okay.
They both knew they were aliens.
There was an extraterrestrial that was being kept by the Eisenhower administration at right field.
Okay, there was a Marine Lieutenant Colonel, a pilot, who actually helped win the Battle of Okinawa, who was sent to the National Air War College.
He saw the extraterrestrial.
He wrote about it.
He wrote about it.
We published it in UFO Magazine.
And here's what he said.
These are his words, not mine.
He said he looked behind glass.
And there was a figure.
And the scary thing about the figure was that we talk about this in UFOs in the White House.
The scary thing about the figure was that it was moving in a wavy fashion.
He called it squiggly.
And he said when he looked at it, the figure communicated with him and said to him, they are testing me.
And they are killing me.
And in 1998, and this guy was no slouch.
He was the largest, after he left the Marine Corps, he became the largest McDonald's franchise owner in the Southwest.
He said in 1998 to his children, it was a shameful thing our government did, because whatever that was, it was one of God's creatures.
And he killed it.
That's what he said.
Well, so, you're getting into some of these tensions between humans and non-humans, so my question to you on that is, if there are extraterrestrial civilizations that are obviously perhaps many millions of years more advanced in terms of technology, and if Earth, as a water planet, with the right orbital distance from the Sun, with a moon, with seasons, and an axial tilt, and all of these amazing properties that are really not that common...
Oxygen!
Salt!
Exactly.
So why wouldn't an extraterrestrial civilization just come along and say, ah, humans, you guys are destroying the planet, you know, we're going to exterminate you, and we're going to take over.
Why isn't that happening?
Or is it?
Well, here's what I think.
Why wouldn't they exterminate humans to take over this planet?
Because they are us.
We are the ETs.
In fact, we've met ET. It is us.
That's how we got here.
And this gets back to the genetic material transpermia theory, is what you're saying.
Crick and Watson, who developed the theory of DNA, said that DNA travels through the universe and that any culture that wants to spread its culture and inhabit other planets would send DNA. That's the panspermia theory.
But if we are them...
Our current civilization is still doing a horrible job.
I mean, clear-cutting the rainforest, microplastics, pollution of the oceans, pharmaceutical runoff in the rivers, and also, of course, testing nuclear weapons throughout the 1940s and 50s all over the country.
I mean, could we be worse stewards of a planet?
Really?
How did John Wayne die?
They're making Genghis Khan right where they were testing...
Nuclear weapons in the Southwest, the entire crew of that movie got cancer and died.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
That's how John Wayne contracted cancer.
He was dying when he made Green Beret, and he got it because of the strontium-90 in that soil in New Mexico.
But my question still stands here.
How can...
I mean, I've heard stories of UFOs over nuclear missile silos, disabling nuclear weapons.
So maybe are they taking kind of like a park ranger attitude towards Earth, like they're going to intervene to make sure we don't make huge mistakes, but everything else is left up to us?
I believe that they have been monitoring us even before there was an us, because they are us.
And we're a colony.
Just a colony of them.
And what is their main purpose?
Since we are they, what is their main purpose?
Keep us alive.
So if we're going to blow ourselves up, what are they going to do?
They're going to disable our nukes.
If we're going to pollute the atmosphere, what are they going to do?
They're going to send a virus that is going to reduce...
The human population so that we can still survive.
This is the sixth extinction of life on planet Earth that we're living through.
What if this time it's us?
Wow, so you just hit upon something huge, because we know that the so-called globalists, you know, Bill Gates and such, they always talk about depopulation as a way to save the planet.
And then they talk about vaccines reducing population as part of that goal.
And, you know, people are mostly convinced of that now.
No one has to be arm twisted into that understanding, given what's happened over the last year and a half.
But Sounds like what you're saying, that perhaps these globalists, they are aligned with an extraterrestrial goal, or perhaps even being directed by them?
Is that a possibility?
I'm going to tell you a story that I learned on the set of UFO Hunters when we were doing the story of the French intelligence report on UFOs.
It was called the Commodore Report.
One of the persons who was one of the translators of that He said to me, you know they're here.
I said, really?
I'm trying to play naive.
You know they're here.
I said, yeah, what do they want?
He said, no, no, no.
It's not what they want.
He said, they've been here as long as we've been here.
They are us.
And he went into the whole story.
He said, there are extraterrestrials in all phases of government and business.
And they're directing The planet.
So I said, boy, that reminds me of something.
Years and years ago, when I was teaching English, when I was an English professor at Trenton State College, we invited Isaac Asimov to give a lecture to the students.
And Asimov was talking about his big trilogy, which is now going to be a TV series called Foundation and Empire.
And so I said, you know, He's really a nice guy.
I really liked him.
So we're talking to him, and I said, you know, this thing with the foundationers and the Selden plan, and I know you invented the term robotics.
You invented that term in psychohistory.
People are teaching it.
You invented it.
I said, how much do you think there's a reality behind foundation and empire?
And he said, looked at me squarely and said, it's worse than you think.
That was 1976.
Flash forward 40, 45 years, and I'm talking to this guy who wrote the Kameda Report, translated it, and says, the Foundation and Empire Trilogy, you think it's science fiction?
Yeah, it's science, it's just not fiction.
Well, you're opening up a whole rabbit hole of questions here for me with all of that.
But I've heard a lot of discussion about the things that you just said.
So you're talking about there are extraterrestrials among us.
Do they...
They look like us, obviously, or they couldn't pass for us.
Is that like that movie, that TV series, They, where they can take different forms?
Or do they physically actually look just like us?
What do you think?
Some people say they're shapeshifters.
I really believe that they are us.
I mean, I just...
I can't shake the fact that, given the fact that the universe that we know of, right, the known universe...
We haven't found a chemical called unknownium yet or unobtainium yet.
It's made of the same stuff.
If it's made of the same stuff, I've got this chilling feeling that they're made of the same stuff we are.
Maybe they don't look exactly like us.
Maybe their eyes are bigger.
Maybe they're this, maybe that.
But they're made of the same stuff.
That's why I keep thinking they are us.
We have met ET and it is us.
Well, I've seen a lot of people that look like demons, but that's a different category.
What's your take on extraterrestrials, demons, or angels, or sort of tie-in to biblical recorded history?
What's your take on all that?
Go back to the Bible.
What do you see in Genesis, right?
After all the business with Cain and Abel, the unhappy business, What does the Bible tell us?
What does Genesis tell us?
It tells us that there were Nephilim.
And what does Nephilim mean?
It doesn't mean giants.
They happen to be tall.
David, a Goliath, was one of the Nephilim.
But the Nephilim means those who fell from the stars.
It's a plural.
Oh, wow.
Who fell from the stars.
And then Genesis tells us the sons of men mated with the children of the Nephilim.
So you get a hybrid race, right?
Then when Noah bops along, Why does the Creator, why does God look at Noah as the Savior?
God looks at Noah and says, Noah was the true human.
In other words, all four of his grandparents were human, not Nephilim.
So therefore, if you're going to restart the human race, let's go with a full-blooded human.
One of Noah's descendants was a person called the Eber.
One of Eber's descendants was Abraham.
And that's where history begins.
So the great flood of Noah's day was, in essence, a way to de-pollute, to reverse the genetic pollution of the biosphere of Earth at that time?
Is that right?
That's correct.
And one of the jokes, I mean, if you talk to various people who...
Read and understand of the Old Testament, there's the story of King Og, right?
You know the story, if you read the Bible, the Israelites are marching across the desert, and then they come to this place, Jordan, right?
They come to this place, and there's King Og.
And King Og doesn't let them cross the river.
And So this one person that I knew said, someday, someday, somebody's going to be excavating a parking garage in downtown Amen, Jordan.
They're going to find the bed of King Og that's like eight feet tall.
You know, you're exactly right.
I used to live in Ecuador, and there were local people who knew about giants and the bones of giants in Ecuador and other South American nations.
So I want to ask you about the Smithsonian, because the Smithsonian, from what I can tell, appears to be an enforcer of official narratives to cover up history, not to present history.
Would you agree with that statement?
Yes, I would.
And you want to know why I agree with it?
What would happen if you really knew the truth about our origins?
I did the biography of Mickey Rooney.
Mickey Rooney's eighth wife is Jan Chamberlain.
Jan Chamberlain's father worked for Skunk Works and was at Roswell in 1947.
He did highly secret stuff, Red Chamberlain.
He walks in, he tells his daughters, you know what?
You know why you will never hear the truth about UFOs?
And they said, why?
And he said, because if the full truth were known about UFOs, The world's governments would collapse.
The world's religions would collapse.
We would be running around with our heads chopped off.
That's how crazy we would get.
That's why the Vatican issued the statement.
Get this.
If there's life on other planets in the universe, it's all part of creation.
And all the UFO folks went crazy, right?
Oh man, the Pope believes in UFOs.
The Pope believes in extraterrestrials.
But the Pope had to believe in that.
Why?
Why?
Because remember when, in the story of history, there's this big, like, the papacy versus terrestrial kings, and Frederick Barbarossa denies the Pope's authority, and the Pope says, I'm going to excommunicate you, and Barbarossa stands in the snows outside the Pope's residence at Canossus and begs for forgiveness, and the Pope forgives him?
And people said, boy, that was really generous.
And then anybody who knows what's the Pope's job, he had to do that.
That's his job.
What's he going to say?
No.
Well, if there's creation, even if it's not on this planet, what does the Pope have to say?
It's part of creation.
You can't say that creature crawling across the surface of Mars wasn't created in the act of creation.
That's why the Vatican did that.
So you think the Vatican is prepping, perhaps, its own base for, I think, what's generally called disclosure.
And doesn't the Vatican have a really large telescope named Lucifer or something?
Arizona, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So the Vatican's probably been looking at a lot of things and the Vatican's tied into a lot of, you know, deep state occult type stuff, aren't they?
Yeah!
They've been watching the skies for hundreds and hundreds of years through their own observatories.
Yeah, so do you think...
See, what you said a minute ago, that if the world knew the truth, that we're not alone, that governments would collapse and religions would collapse and so on.
I've never understood why that would be.
Why would governments collapse?
I don't think...
I mean, these days, given how insane the world is every day...
If, you know, if the New York Times said aliens have landed, I don't think it would be that much of a freakout, frankly, because the world's crazy anyway.
If the New York Times said aliens have landed, nobody would believe it.
But the theory is that look at what we do, look at how much we give to the government.
Look at how much we give to local government.
And I'm a local government official.
I ran and won my election for auditor.
So look how much we give to local governments in terms of authority, right?
We give them police powers.
We give them regulatory powers.
We send them money.
They tell us when we could put roofs on our houses and doors on our houses.
I mean, we give this...
So what would happen if you suddenly said, hey, wait a minute, who gives you the authority to do this?
I mean, there are aliens out there.
We were created by an alien culture.
Why should I listen to you?
Oh, wait a minute.
Aliens put us here?
So the church?
I mean, think about all the questions that would be raised if suddenly a Joe Biden, a Donald Trump, whoever gets on the air and says, oh, we now know there are extraterrestrials.
They're here.
They formed us and they brought life to Earth.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, but couldn't the churches just say kind of what the Pope said?
Well, they're all God's creations, and God created everything, and this proves that he's cosmically powerful.
I mean, wouldn't that be the argument?
That's the argument that the Vatican is making.
That's exactly what they're saying.
Yeah, well, I mean, this is all fascinating.
Okay, I got another question for you.
We've only got about five minutes here.
Let's talk about planted disinformation because the CIA, they're experts at this, and we know they do this to every area, UFO research, vaccines, GMOs, whatever, geopolitics.
So the CIA obviously inserts disinformation agents from time to time into everything to try to discredit those things.
So, I guess my question to you is, is the UFO community of serious researchers like yourself, are you able to ferret out the obvious fakers who are just plants?
Or how does that work?
The answer to your question is that real serious ufologists are more skeptical about some of the claims that people are making than skeptics I've heard stories.
I mean, I have spent hours in the middle of crazy.
I mean, it's an experience.
You should have it someday.
Meeting with people Who basically will say, look, I was driving my car and all of a sudden the people in the car fell asleep and I fell asleep and suddenly the car pulled off the road and then I was in a UFO. But then you hear other stories, which I think are so credible.
It's the story of Betty and Barney Hill, right?
It's in the big book of UFOs and UFOs in the White House.
It's the story is, here's an interracial couple.
Get this, Mike.
It is 1961.
The South is exploding, right?
The Birmingham riots, the Pettis Bridge, everything.
Here's an interracial couple driving along a very quiet road outside of Portsmouth, New Hampshire, where they see a light in the sky.
And Betty Hill looks up and says, God, you know, that's awful close.
Is that the moon?
And Bonnie Hill, her husband, says, I don't know what it is.
And as they're driving, it's following them.
So they decide, hey, wait a minute.
If it's following us, they stop the car and they get out of the car to look.
This is 1961.
The object, get this, stops in midair.
Stops dead.
They get really nervous.
And they lickety-split take off down the road.
The object now follows them, hovers over the car, lands in front of them.
They've got to stop the car.
These little creatures come out.
Barney, who works for the post office, grabs his gun.
He doesn't know what it is.
Suddenly, the creatures are on them.
They're dragging them into the woods.
They see a gangplank come down.
They're ushered up the gangplank, and they're taken aboard a spacecraft.
And they don't know what's going on.
The next thing they knew is they're in their driveway, driving up to their driveway, and they look at the clock on the dashboard, and it's been five hours!
Where'd the five hours go?
It's missing time.
They can't account for the time.
Well, They tuck it away, okay?
I mean, from what they remember in a waking state, they remember they were taken to a craft, they remember seeing the little creatures, they remember being followed, but then they remember nothing.
So Betty Hill is talking to her niece, Kathy Martin, and she's telling this story.
And that's the next morning.
And Barney is getting more and more upset.
So they go to a doctor.
And the doctor says, boy, you need a psychiatrist.
They go to a psychiatrist.
The psychiatrist says, boy, this is way out of my...
This is like way above my head, okay?
It's above my pay grade.
What you need is Dr.
Benjamin Simon, who invented the technique of using...
Truth serum to help cure PTSD that the pilots were having that were flying over Germany in World War II. He's very famous, Dr.
Simon.
He regresses Betty and Barney and hears this incredible story of how they were taken aboard a UFO. It's all in these two books, UFOs in the White House and the big book.
When a UFO tested, they took their sperm, they took their egg cells.
Tells the story.
Well, guess what?
The tapes, which you can hear by the way, they're on the web, the tapes are transcribed by this person who does Dr.
Simon's transcriptions.
Her mind is blown, Mike.
Her mind, when she finishes, when she hears what they say, her brains are on the table.
She takes the transcripts and she gives them to a reporter for the Boston Traveler magazine.
The Boston Traveler magazine guy says, oh my God, this is worth a Pulitzer Prize.
He publishes it.
Okay, hold on.
We only got about a minute left.
I'm sorry, but wrap this up so we can...
So the story is, it's 1961, and the poster children of UFO abductions wind up on the corner on the cover of Look magazine, and the government denies the whole thing.
Wow.
Well, again, because they can use the discrediting techniques, and then they can throw their own fakery into it to try to spread misinformation on purpose.
But I'm really glad that you are doing the research and you're ferreting out What can be substantiated from what can't?
And, you know, I want to bring people's attention to your book.
What's it called?
The Big Book of UFO Facts?
The Book of UFOs, Facts, Figures, and the Truth, and UFOs and the White House.
Okay, very cool.
I hope we can do this again, because this has been really fascinating.
I got a lot more questions for you.
I'll tell you.
You want stuff that the government hides?
Two books.
Dr.
Feelgood, the story of why Kennedy was assassinated.
And the other book is The Squad.
J. Edgar Hoover ran a secret assassination squad from 1945 all the way to his death in the 1970s.
And the guy who was on it wrote a memoir.
I'll send you the memoir.
Okay, please do.
And I'm pretty sure those execution squads have been, they're still running.
They're just run by other people now.
We're in a bad state here right now in the United States with the tyranny and everything.
But we'll cover some of that next time.
I just want to thank you for taking the time to chat with us today and answer my, you know, mostly naive questions about what's going on.
You're a great resource.
I really appreciate what you do.
My pleasure.
Your questions were to the point and I was happy to do it.
That's awesome.
Well, thank you so much.
And your website, shadowlawnpress.com.
Okay, William, do you go by William or Bill?
Bill's fine.
Bill's fine.
Okay.
All right, Bill.
Well, thank you so much.
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Exactly.
So thank you for watching.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.com, and until next time, yeah, take care, be safe, and watch the skies.
All right.
Thank you, Mike.
Thank you.
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