Jeffrey Prather interview: Deep dive into USA, China and Russia military capabilities and vulnerabil
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If you look back at the START treaties with the U.S. and Russia, and when I was getting my second bachelor's and my master's in international relations, we studied that.
And the after effect of a nuclear war between Russia and America is a nuclear winter.
And a nuclear winter for Russia looks much, much worse than a nuclear winter for America.
And the same thing goes for China.
Welcome to Bright Town Conversations.
This is Mike Adams, the founder of brighton.com.
Today, I think this is one of the most critical interviews that we've done all year.
We have a special guest, Jeffrey Prather.
He's, well, his background is so extensive in various operations.
I'll let him explain some of that, but he's got a really good analysis of where we stand right now in terms of national defense against The threats against the United States of America, including threats by foreign operators, perhaps cyber warfare attack threats, and many other things happening right now, maybe even the national security apparatus apparently being turned against the American people.
Look at what Tucker Carlson just covered a couple nights ago.
So we're going to jump into that with Jeffrey Prather.
Jeffrey, thank you so much for taking the time to join us and offer us your insights.
I really value what you have to say here.
Where do you want to begin?
Well, thanks for having me back, Mike.
I wanted to also comment on your really insightful interview with Norquist on the Chinese threat.
And, you know, you speak Mandarin, and you've been over there, and I haven't, and he's a subject matter expert.
But I kind of wanted to, I thought it was really important, I agree with you, that it's really important to look at that threat in depth, And especially, there's a lot of people talking about the possibility of nuclear war threat there.
Right, right.
I wanted to dive into that.
Okay, let's do that.
And just to set context, you're referring to my interview with J.R. Nyquist.
That's his name, is Nyquist.
And he's an academic researcher of China and Russia and so on.
And the...
The one thing I want to add to this before you jump in is I get conflicting reports about like China needs America's farmland so they don't want to nuke the United States, but then other reports say they might want to nuke military installations to cripple the U.S. So that's all I have to say.
The floor is yours.
Where do you want to take it?
No, that's great, and I'm sorry I didn't mean to mispronounce his name, but I certainly acknowledge you and he as more of a Chinese expert than I. You know, I've been a military intelligence officer since I was commissioned in the Army in that branch back in 1984, and I was with the DEA as a special agent.
I was the DIA as an intelligence collector and branch chief.
And also in Special Operations and PSYOPs.
But I think the truth is someplace in between there, and it's important to understand really what's going on.
And of course, I have said...
This is primarily a fifth-generational war with intelligence being crucial in that human sources have been recruited, Hunter Biden and Biden himself being the main sources, and Clinton you can add on there too, because then you have influence and access.
But what's happening recently, I think I wanted to clarify a little bit my point of view anyway.
And that is, we see General Miley, who didn't really support President Trump and is still in place, and we can verify that because he's still there, is obvious.
And Austin, the new Secretary of Defense, who says that white supremacists are the biggest threat So we know by their actions that they're now talking about China.
There's something up with that, because if they were really worried about that, then it wouldn't be Russia, Russia, Russia.
So what I primarily see this as is a continuation of Sun Tzu's And psychological warfare.
And when you're far away, make yourself look close.
And when you're weak, make yourself look strong.
And militarily, they are weak.
And logistically, and as far as food production and their Navy, they are weak.
But they want to look strong.
Now, they are not strong.
But it's very important because I got an intelligence report over the weekend from an eyes on person in Charles de Gaulle Airport that saw Chinese sitting in the airport in full hazmat suits.
So that goes into WMD, weapons of mass destruction.
But that could be anything besides nuclear.
But the main thing I want to say first is I don't think they will do a nuke strike, but I think they want us to perceive that they would do a nuke strike.
Well, that may be some of the games they're playing with Taiwan as well with the invasion of Taiwan's airspace.
Perhaps they do want to strike Taiwan or maybe they just want to have the perception that they're going to as a leverage point.
As you say, that's a very keen observation on your part.
But I want to back up just one second.
I agree with what you said that China's food supply is a really devastating weakness that they are suffering right now.
They have to import food.
They're buying up food supplies all over the world just to feed their 1.4 billion people.
Without those imports, they would starve to death.
And some countries are blocking exports to China in order to feed their own people.
I think Chile, in recent news reports, is one of those countries.
But when you say that China's navy is weak, I just want you to explain that because some of the narrative that's out there keeps talking about how China has far more vessels than the United States.
But as you know, the number of vessels is not equivalent to the combat effectiveness of vessels.
So could you cover that, please?
Sure, very true.
And all you've got to do is look at World War II with the American Navy against the Japanese Navy, which was outclassed in every way, outnumbered, outclassed, outquality.
But the Chinese Navy doesn't work well.
The islands that they've built are like tracers.
Tracers, like islands, work both ways.
We know that from World War II, where we had to take those islands, Guadalcanal and all those other islands, Iwo Jima, in great bloody conflict.
But when you get into the Navy, the primary...
Way of projecting force for a country, for example, Britain or Japan, is their Navy, and the primary platform for that is an aircraft carrier.
Because on the aircraft carrier, then you have all elements, because you have an aircraft carrier task force, which has got destroyers, it's got aircraft to project force, it's got the Marines, which are amphibious infantry, it's got submarines, so there's three-dimensional warfare happening there.
And the systemology required to run aircraft carriers is dense, and they do not do it well at all.
They want us to think that they do it well, but they do not do it well at all.
So militarily, for projection of power, they are weak.
Logistically, for feeding their own people, they are weak.
And you're right, Chile, and I've worked Chile a lot, It's my favorite South American country, is in conflict with them.
Australia is in conflict with them.
And that's part of why you see siege warfare being waged with us, where you see Suez Canal blockages, you see 40 to 50 container ships backed up in the LA Harbor.
You see the cyber cuts, the bridge cuts, all of that.
That's also counter siege warfare because really What they want to achieve is they want to get back to a parody, pre-Trump parody, because that's when they controlled everything.
They controlled our manufacturing.
They controlled everything.
And now they are trying to return to that from what Trump re-established when Trump negotiated a new China treaty right before the outbreak of the Wuhan coronavirus, which is totally a biological weapon for economic battle to deep stabilize our economy.
Defeat the United States as a Chinese advocate has recently said that they won a war against us in 2020, which was biological and technological and cyber.
They've said that they've won that war.
And return to a parody.
But they've already done a weapon of mass destruction, and that is the COVID-19 virus.
And there's more strains coming out of that.
So they don't need to do another one.
As Sun Tzu said, you don't use weapons that you don't need.
And as Mao said, the nuclear threat is a paper tiger.
That's Mao Zedong saying that.
That's a quote from Mao Zedong.
And that's because nobody wants to do nuclear war.
We're the only nation that ever done it.
But the doctrine is mutually assured destruction.
Mad.
So they want us to perceive so that they can then blackmail and extort our military.
And I think Miley and Austin and Biden are all tied into that.
But I don't think that will happen, because if you look back at the START treaties with the US and Russia, and when I was getting my second bachelor's and my master's in international relations, we studied that, and the after effect Of a nuclear war between Russia and America is a nuclear winter.
And a nuclear winter for Russia looks much, much worse than a nuclear winter for America.
And the same thing goes for China.
Well, what if China wanted to eliminate hundreds of millions of its own people in the process of also causing greater destruction to the United States?
You are so sharp on this, because you're a China expert, and I'm not.
But that is part of what we see, Luc Montagnier, the Nobel Prize winner, talking about 90 million dead in two years.
Yes, that all changes the dynamic then, possibly, maybe.
And it would have to be airburst.
You want to be able to take the territory If you do like mustard gas, World War I stuff, where there are still depressions over there where you can't get in it, where the mustard gas still lays, they didn't understand the weapons back then.
But yeah, from one year to two year, that...
But the other thing that you're very perceptive on is Taiwan.
Taiwan and Hong Kong are key inflection points, much more important than these islands that they're building, because Taiwan has technology build-out and connections to mainland China, and so does Hong Kong.
So right now, the British are not going to honor their treaties.
NATO is a paper tiger and not going to do anything.
And when they take that over, then they can control the logistical chain.
It's always more that what we say is amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics.
And once they control those two inflection points, Hong Kong financially and Taiwan for manufacturing as an inflection point between the West and the East, then they control everything Very similar to what Putin has been doing with the friendship pipeline in Ukraine, which runs north to south and controls over 50% of the national gas in Europe.
So when he has that, nobody's going to oppose him.
That's the real play that China is making here.
How aggressively do you think the United States will be in defending Taiwan against the mainland Chinese invasion?
And I also want to mention, according to analysis that I've looked at, China's seaports, from where they launch submarines from continental China, those submarines have to traverse relatively shallow ocean depths for hundreds of miles before they can drop off into the deep Pacific, which makes them very susceptible to detection by advanced even orbital satellite equipment run by the United States.
Whereas if they were to take Taiwan, they would have access to a port there that gives them rapid access to deep ocean navigation off the eastern side of Taiwan.
So if America can't stop China from taking Taiwan, then America loses its ability to detect a lot of submarine maneuvers coming out of China.
What do you think about that?
That's very important, and that's why they want to take that Indo-Pacific region of water space as well.
And going back to Clinton, he gave away the stealth technology.
Everybody was worried about the Cuban Missile Crisis, and that was never really relevant because...
Our submarines could go right up on everybody's shore quietly, and the ICBM submarines were the biggest part.
Now there's a lot of conjecture that they're satellites, but the whole ocean floor is mined, not mined with mines, but mines with acoustic detection radar and LIDAR, and so are the satellites as well.
But they have other ports.
That's why they've been so aggressive on the Horn of Africa.
It's really Emperor Xi, because he's president for life, mission to defeat the United States and therefore rule the world and control markets.
And so there are other places that he could do that.
But Taiwan and Hong Kong are crucial.
And that's why you saw Hu Zijin, the editor of the Chinese-run newspaper, the Global Times, saying that they have to, our nuclear missiles must be so numerous that the US elite will tremble at the thought On such a basis, we can calmly and actively manage our differences with the U.S. and avoid all kinds of gunfire.
Because, again, they could not win a kinetic war.
Not that it wouldn't be terrible and bloody, but war is never a good versus bad choice.
War is always a bad choice versus a terrible choice versus an unthinkable choice.
What do you make of Chinese billionaires purchasing large tracts of land, one in particular in Texas?
It's about 200 square miles that has been purchased near, of course, a military base.
It's also not far from Fort Bliss, which is the U.S. Army's armored division there for training and deployment.
This has gravely concerned Texas lawmakers as well as some GOP lawmakers at the federal level who are trying to even outlaw CCP members from purchasing land in the United States.
What do you make of this?
What is their goal in owning this land?
Well, that's very clearly, just like with the transnational drug cartels, where they control the plazas up from the border of Nogales, Arizona, and Nogales and Sonora, all the way down through Guatemala, Panama, Chile, Bolivia.
And the Chinese want to control that.
And there are Chinese in Canada, and there are Chinese across the Mexican border.
But they're not primarily uniformed troops with rifles.
The Chinese up on Canada are primarily female...
And those are the case officers that then run.
Just look at Fung Fung with Swalwell and with the Georgia governor.
It's all about intelligence through influence and access.
But in Texas there, clearly they want a line of sight.
My handgun classes, if you're going from a prone to a kneeling to a standing, you have to do an enemy scan.
You have to check your six every time because the viewpoint has changed.
And so raising those wind towers is going to give them a line of sight and through radar and LIDAR and other technologies as well.
And that's what they're looking for to control.
And also then, nap of the earth flying drug cartel planes under that is no trick at all.
It's been going on forever.
JTF-6 pointed that out long ago.
I also understand that this tract of land in Texas owned by this Chinese billionaire, who also is the largest landowner in the Xinjiang province that runs the, I believe, the slave labor camps or prison labor camps for the Uyghurs, by the way, that are churning out brand name products for American consumers, by the way.
But they've requested direct access to the Texas power grid.
I don't know exactly what that means from an electrician's point of view, but direct access sounds like they could cause some kind of disruptions of the grid if they have this access.
And the Texas grid right now this week is vulnerable because of the heat wave.
We've had warnings there might be more blackouts coming.
The whole grid went down in February because of cold weather for an entire week.
And we almost lost the grid for many months.
And that's even without the Chinese messing with it.
That's just cold weather.
So do you think that part of this might be achieving access to a vulnerable point of a critical infrastructure piece?
Well, definitely.
And they already have done that.
I published on my site a while back that the Cyber Infrastructure Security Agency pre-election had Akamai, and I put the forensics up on my Patreon as well.
And so they were inside the CISA website.
And the CISA agency is now putting out posters saying, hey, mail-in voting is better than in-person voting, which means that they are completely controlled.
I think that's Krebs.
And I've also talked directly to folks inside there, and I just said, hey, you don't have to tell me anything classified because I don't have a clearance anymore, but it looks to me like the attacks are still going on.
And there was silence.
So the whole thing is, since the 1999 unrestricted warfare report, is to gain influence to have access and control influence and access.
And that's really what's happening.
And with the millionaire, the Chinese millionaire, that corresponds to Steve Bannon working with Kwok and...
Wang Gu, I think his name is, you know, and also the Hong Kong Independence Party, which is trying to become a Commonwealth of Britain.
You saw Steve Bannon trying to do a lot with that.
And of course, the deep state went after Steve Bannon.
And then they went after some of those guys as well.
Because the Hong Kong Independence Party, HKIP, was funding independence.
And where you've seen Blantifa CCP flags flying, you've seen American flags flying at demonstrations in Hong Kong.
But if you look at...
The demonstrations and what has happened in Hong Kong and Taiwan, it mirrors exactly the infiltration process through human sources in America.
They have done exactly the same thing.
They learned how to do it there, but they understand those inflection points that they need to control those.
And right before the election, I said on my show something pretty dramatic.
I said, you know, It was the show The Final Option on JeffreyPrather.com, and it was President Trump needs to take kinetic action domestically against Planteva, and he needs to take kinetic action in the Indo-Pacific region.
Because if we went back to some form of third generation kinetic warfare, fifth generational stuff would be defeated immediately.
And that also plays into...
What would happen if there was a nuke, even a airstrike in the air, not low.
And I'm not even talking about the...
The suitcase nukes that's in my book, Chase, because those just go a couple blocks because buildings and stuff, but in the air.
But the response there of the breakdown, the states with the National Guards would respond, and of course, Americans, of course, Texans would respond as well.
So that would upset their web that they have developed as well.
You mentioned a lot of infiltration, and everyone that I've spoken to who's well informed on this agrees with what you've said.
There's been communist Chinese infiltration of the science industry, even Emory University, you know, that feeds experts to the CDC.
There are CCP members, Chinese nationals.
They're running that.
Look at Fauci's cooperation with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Look at Chapel Hill University of North Carolina, Ralph Baric.
Even the Pentagon apparently funded $39 million that went to the Wuhan Institute there to help build the spike protein bioweapon that has devastated our economy, mostly largely due to the overreaction of the crackdown, you know, the economic shutdowns.
But there was a very important research article I'd like your comment on from AgWeb Agriculture over the last week.
Perhaps you've seen it talked about how communist China has infiltrated the agriculture industry.
They even had a Chinese national infiltrate Monsanto and try to steal algorithms and escape and take them back to China.
There's been intellectual property theft of seeds, algorithms, plans for how to build agricultural equipment and so on.
This is estimated to be something like $600 billion a year in damage to America.
And the FBI is reportedly opening a new investigation into Communist Chinese intellectual property theft every 10 hours.
Every 10 hours!
It's stunning.
I didn't think the FBI had any time to do that since they're so busy attacking the American people, but, you know, I mean, it's incredible.
What do you think about all this?
Well, and I did a guest cast on another Tommy podcast with Ed Morales, the hero of the Miami gunfight, old friend of mine, done undercover for me.
I said, look, I know here are FBI agents, but now the FBI, when they say they're opening a case, and again, I graduated from the FBI Academy in 1990, they're just saying we're going to cover up the next thing.
The FBI needs to go away completely.
But all of that is very true, and I just did a show called...
Deep state slavery rising, and I talked about Percy and Goliath, the movie based upon the true Canadian farmer, and the movie was kind of accurate.
It was a good movie, but the real point was you can't patent what is not natural, but when you modify it, and this goes into the RNA in the COVID vaccines, the permanent modification of the DNA, then you can own that.
And patented that, and that's also with the cyber polygon financial reset, is the aggregation of financial data and the reorganization of the DNA through the not-vax.
Besides being a killer, it is also leading towards state ownership of modified human beings.
And you can also see the propaganda put out on...
Netflix, where you see Sweet Tooth, where you see the little kids come out with deer antlers and fur.
That goes along with the mice modifiers.
Now, anybody in gene therapy uses mice and zebrafish because they repopulate quickly, but they are...
It's like boiling the frog.
They are acclimatizing people to these modifications.
And that's why they're trying to steal that, because their espionage, their corporate espionage, and that's my space I work in, is extremely very active.
And all we've got to do is go back to look at Libre.
At Harvard, who had a Chinese military intelligence second lieutenant female working for him while he was going back to Wuhan every month to get his $50,000 payments.
FBI arrests him.
Two days later, he's out.
He's only charged with some kind of economic stuff, not with espionage, unlike the old FBI foreign counterintelligence unit that used to follow the Russians.
And you can even see how good they were at that in Bridge of Spies is they weren't even very good at that.
And now they're simply completely outclassed.
And my peer at DIA, Tony Schaefer, has pointed that out excellently in that the FBI Foreign Counterintelligence Program really needs to be reviewed by a real intelligence agency.
Probably the last one left is a defense intelligence agency, my old agency.
Yeah, I've heard that from other people as well.
The DIA is maybe the last white hat group that's operating.
What do you make of the national security apparatus now apparently being weaponized against conservatives?
We had Attorney General Merrick Garland just announce that Basically, white conservatives are the greatest threat in this country.
He just calls everybody a racist, terrorist, white nationalist.
And, of course, the FBI was involved in the January 6th siege of the Capitol building, just as they were involved in the apparent kidnapping plot of the Michigan Governor Whitmer.
Tucker Carlson has covered this extensively.
I mean, there's a lot of truth coming out, but...
We seem to be living in a nation where the national security apparatus has no interest in protecting our country from foreign threats, but every interest in politicizing political differences domestically and weaponizing systems against the people.
What do you think?
So, that's very true, and we've got to, again, look at the Taiwan-Hong Kong link, like Jack Ma, the founding of the Hong Kong Independence Party, the millionaire or billionaire, kind of similar to guys like Mike Lindell and other folks that are funding efforts, and that's really important to do.
You always infiltrate at the highest levels because that gives you the most access and the most influence.
So again, going back to the example of Hunter, who is drug addicted, bribed, and then extorted while he commits sins and crimes against Asian children on the hard drives, that's for control.
So at the highest levels, and the deep state steal of the election is pretty obvious.
So if that is compromised, then you have to go back to the states.
So now, I'm real proud to say, and I can't say in detail, but Team America is working the audit today.
And some of these are skilled assets and people that have been training with me for years now.
In crucial positions.
So we're going back to the grassroots level and what made America great is first, which is, you know, a confederation of states coming together because it's hard to compromise all the states.
So just like Arizona is really crucial to restoring our republic and overturning election fraud, Hong Kong and Taiwan are really crucial in that regard as well.
And so that's where we can work.
And I can tell you I can't tell you in detail, but we can be very proud of how the Arizona government is handling the threat of federal interference in the audit.
Any more than that.
And so to do, we have to do, the corollary is to move forward on other fronts because there's like 12 other states.
I tied in Arizona with Georgia and then Pennsylvania.
I think Wyoming was there yesterday.
The same thing needs to happen with Hong Kong and Taiwan.
The problem is the British are not going to do anything because NATO is now a paper tiger.
But if there is some kind of kinetic event, then it comes down to us again.
And here's where it's interesting, is right after the Chinese made their nuclear threats, there was news stories coming out about a Chinese nuclear plant that was leaking.
And that's very interesting to me because I don't believe in coincidences.
And that to me looks like a covert cyber hack because even the news folks said that American intelligence had been watching that.
So that to me looks like there were professionals still in play.
And again, I was part of the military special operations intelligence community, which is much more competent and much more resilient than the CIA and big intelligence community.
And it looks to me like that was a reminder that if they want to make those kind of threats, that they are actually vulnerable.
Now, that's just Rument.
That's just me looking at the overall situation.
But I found that I found that very interesting.
Yeah, that's a really good point that cyber hacking works both ways.
It's a two-way street.
And I often warn people about the vulnerabilities of America's critical infrastructure, which is quite real.
But we have to remember that China has many vulnerabilities in their infrastructure as well.
The Associated Press, surprisingly, put out an article recently talking about Chinese hacks that appear to compromise transportation systems.
I think the New York mass transit subway system, water systems, of course, agricultural that we've talked about, fossil fuels, you know, the colonial pipeline hack.
Of course, that was attributed to, quote, Russian hackers.
And I don't believe that story for a minute, by the way.
Yeah, it's the Russians again.
Yeah, it's the Russians again.
Suddenly they're doing everything again.
I don't believe it.
But you mentioned the cyber polygon upcoming simulation.
And since a lot of people, of course, have looked at event 201, which was a bioweapons simulation, and I don't recall what year that was, maybe 2019.
But then the real thing followed the simulation.
Do you get any kind of sense that a real cyber strike might follow this so-called simulation or that the simulation might go live or it's a cover story for known attacks that may be planned?
What do you think about all that?
No, I do think there is more attacks coming.
But again, I think they'll continue with the battle plan that has worked, which is unrestricted warfare, fifth-generational warfare.
Now, in traditional unconventional warfare, you build your unconventional warfare forces.
And you can look at 12-strong or horse soldiers or special forces, but the final phase of that always goes to regular conventional warfare.
So nuclear warfare doesn't really even fit conventional warfare.
But this is not a conventional, unconventional warfare scenario in that I think they want to return to parody like they had pre-Trump and that they have done that and that the nuke threat is to counter that.
But I think if you recall, if you remember watching Tor Tor Tor, which was a great movie, but actually two movies, a Japanese version and an American version.
It's a good lead-up.
It's one of the series of movies I tell people to watch to understand warfare.
There's a point where the two Navy and military intelligence top guys see that the president has been removed from the list of access to the intelligence.
Wow.
And so now we can fast forward to Pelosi asking for the football, which is carried by the staff around the president all the time, because the inference was that Biden doesn't have it.
So we can look back at history, we can look at recent events, and we can then project an intelligence analysis that there is likely a strategic plan Tools and weapons and intelligence that Biden and Harris do not have access to.
And that could be the nuclear leak that referenced American intelligence officers.
And also the story about, I don't know whether it's true or not, where Biden couldn't come into the Pentagon.
I'm not sure about that at all.
I kind of doubt that.
Yeah, but I think Biden doesn't even have access to regions of his own brain at this point.
I'm not even joking.
We have an Alzheimer's patient serving as a pretend president.
That's very disturbing.
But let's get back to the Arizona audit for a second.
I know there are things you can't say.
People are so impressed with the way this audit is being run, the Maricopa County audit.
And the GOP legislators in Arizona are due tremendous credit for supporting this.
And I don't know exactly who's running it, but I think I saw the Arizona AG sending out a warning to Merrick Garland to say, hey, hands off.
I think she said to Garland, if I'm getting this right, you're going to go to jail in an Arizona jail if you lay a hand on these ballots.
This is a state issue and the state is going to determine this.
But from all accounts, this audit is being run with incredible precision and checksums and oversight and transparency.
Is that an accurate description from what you're seeing there?
It is only inaccurate in that it is even more so than anyone knows.
And I am very impressed by that.
And also, Senator Wendy Rogers, I think also a paratrooper like me, Airborne, was saying that the other day.
But they are doing a fabulous job.
And yes, they are totally standing up to the corrupt DOJ and federal deep state.
And everybody can be reassured, not that there won't be counterattacks, but they are really doing their part.
And this is very similar to what happened back in my day when I became a whistleblower with Fast and Furious starting a DEA in Arizona and the Arizona and Texas border as well.
Well, so let me ask you this question for.
From other sources I have, not just for disclosure, this does not come from you or anybody related to you, but I have other sources.
I used to live in Arizona, and I have other sources that have told me for sure this is going to turn up at least 200,000 ballots missing, and that means Arizona would have to retract The Electoral College votes for Biden because Biden won by, what, 12,000 or 15,000 votes.
Just assume for a minute with me that this is what happens, that there are 200,000 ballots missing and that Trump wins Arizona.
What do you think happens after that, if indeed that comes true?
You always ask excellent questions.
I'm always so impressed.
So one thing happens is the Senate also changes as well.
Also, the sheriff up there changes as well, which is a puppet.
And the sheriffs, of course, are the last constitutional line of authority in counties and states.
Is that Maricopa County Sheriff?
Maricopa County Sheriff, yes.
Okay.
And I knew Arpaio.
Arpaio was a DEA sack before he became sheriff back in the day and proved forensically that the birth certificate was fake.
And then, of course, he was deemed a nut and everything.
But I know Arpaio personally.
He is very sharp.
But in this regard, then, what you start to see is this is the first domino of 12 states.
Wyoming, I think, was up there the other day touring the audit floor.
And now we start to see a whole line of states That opposed the false election.
And now, and only now, does it start to look like what could become eventually, not like the old one, but like a new one of some form of civil war or secession or exclusion.
And it's not North versus South, and it's not outright war, but it is a whole series of states, not physically aligned, but aligned on human terrain based on informational influence operations.
And it kind of follows the Rocky Mountains and it kind of follows that terrain.
Something starts to coalesce like that as well.
And that begins to coalesce almost the same time that Hong Kong and Taiwan are crucial.
Those are all tied together.
I agree with you, but I can see a scenario happening even this calendar year as a possibility where enough states decertify the election that Biden's electoral votes drop below the 270 threshold.
And then I can see a scenario.
I'm not predicting that this is going to happen, but red states could recognize Trump as the legitimate president.
Blue states could say, no, we're going to recognize Biden anyway.
Then you have two competing candidates.
which has happened before in history.
And then doesn't it come down to military loyalty, which helps explain the purge of the military right now?
And the Supreme Court would obviously have some kind of role in this.
But it gets very dangerous very quickly if the Democrats don't agree to respect the results of the audits.
It does.
And that's really the ultimate goal of our foreign enemies, which is China, really not so much Russia.
And the reason is because the Russian-Chinese border has always been in conflict, and they are traditional enemies.
They've been fighting forever, just like they're fighting with the Indians.
And that's always going to be true because they share that border.
But that starts to allow for the The split of power.
But then again, let's play the situation out.
So then there's some kind of division, whether it's outright civil war or there is just exclusion.
And of course, the states that Trump support are where the agriculture is.
So then the Chinese have trouble controlling those fields because somebody's got to pick that stuff.
Somebody's got to drive those trucks.
So who's going to do that?
Blantify?
No, that isn't going to work.
Okay.
And so then China wants to attack.
Well, what happens when China attacks then?
Well, I can tell you what happens.
Everybody puts aside their differences, and they face the greatest warriors the world has ever seen, which is the American warrior.
And so...
We are not necessarily winning right now, but we are not necessarily losing.
We are certainly gaining ground daily, and their ranks are fading daily.
And that is really important to understand.
And it's a complex intelligence assessment.
But it is certainly not all that's lost and everything is done.
Quite the contrary.
They are in real trouble.
China is in real trouble.
And the deep state is in real trouble.
And Biden and Harris struggle daily.
I mean, Harris looks almost as bad as Biden most days.
So...
And then put in another likely false flag or crisis in likely friendly territory, which means Texas or Florida or something like that, because they want to do it on friendly territory.
That's why you see all these shootings, these kinetic assassinations happening in Georgia and Alabama as well.
Then again, if that happens, then their communications get cut as well.
Tracers, like islands, like cyber hacking, work both ways.
Yeah, exactly.
Good point.
My comms channels were lighting up all day yesterday with warnings about false flag attack being set up to blame QAnon followers or Q followers.
I think that Q followers don't like the term QAnon.
That's not actually how it's phrased.
But it's clear that The security apparatus, you know, the FBI, the DOJ wants to have a reason to engage in gun confiscation.
So my next question to you.
You're a firearms instructor.
You have been for many years.
You've trained tens of thousands of people in firearms instruction.
And you've seen the recent attempted ruling by the ATF. It's in the comment period right now.
They're going to try to outlaw arm braces on AR pistols.
That's going to be a real hassle for me because I own a few of them, right?
But just recently, I think 140-plus GOP members in the House are pushing back against this and saying that they're going to strongly oppose this, but the ATF can make rules on its own because it's a bureaucracy fiefdom that doesn't need congressional approval.
But it's clear they want to take our guns as soon as possible.
So what do you make of the arm brace ban attempt and the Second Amendment and gun confiscation attempts, which always happen under Democrats?
Well, because of course, historically, you know, whether it's Hitler or whoever, once you disarm the population, you know, I have the arm brace, but I'm also a disabled veteran.
And look here, you can see all my scarring there, two shoulder surgeries and a hemicap in there.
If anybody needs an arm brace, it's me.
But regardless, that is a...
It's a crucial issue, and it will never work because we were founded.
Tribal folks defended themselves.
Black folks defended themselves.
The founders defended themselves.
It's in our DNA. And you can look at Fast and Furious.
You know, people used to ask me under Obama, what if he declares martial law?
I'm like, how long do you think that would hold?
Who's going to enforce it?
The Blantifa?
The Chaz guys?
That will never...
The Chaz guys are shooting each other.
Yeah, or the not fracking around guys shooting each other all the time.
Yeah, sit back and watch them shoot each other.
That would be another inflection point that would not work.
So there's lots of stopping points for this to happen.
Now, again, if you go back and look at Hong Kong and Taiwan and inside China, which you certainly know better than I, You know, the Confucius Institutes that the Chinese Communist Party supports here in America, which are really safe houses for communist spies and insurgents, don't even follow Confucianism at all.
You'd know that much better than I. That is how they have to infiltrate.
They can't do it any other way.
But once they try and go from this fifth-generational information war to a kinetic war, there's a problem there.
There is a difficulty to make that happen because they become very...
I don't see a scenario yet where they are not very vulnerable.
I don't see how they could...
Now, have they got parity back?
They've got parity back.
Which is pre-Trump.
Are they in trouble?
Yeah, their Navy doesn't work.
They can't feed themselves.
They got nuclear power plants leaking.
They got dams breaking.
They got lots of problems.
But again, if you go back to the Russia-America post-nuclear winter, who looks worse after any kind of WMD? Russia and China look worse than America.
Right, right.
And by the way, this is an off-the-cuff question, but what do you make of the military's acknowledgement of the video footage of these so-called UFOs?
And then the media narrative now that, oh, they're not aliens, they might be exotic weapons built by Russia and China.
I mean...
I don't buy any of this, but do you have any thoughts on what?
Yeah, I do.
I did a show on that a while back.
And, you know, I used to work with Raytheon and I've been inside, you know, in the James Bond movies where they go to see Q and there's the phone in the shoe and everything.
I've been inside those shops and different ones are called different things.
You know, I know how the Jessica Lynch thing went down.
That's not even classified anymore.
The video was like an hour old for the rescue and everything.
But nothing is real in that regard.
A lot of that is CIA, which the CIA has acknowledged for cover for electromagnetic and swarm and mini drone swarm tech.
And years ago, it was the mechanical mosquito and the mechanical catfish.
And that used to be classified.
And you could go in the CIA store inside the CIA, because I had a blue card.
I went in there.
And now it's mechanical swarms, like you see in the Star Trek movies and stuff.
So some of that is domestic intelligence.
But...
Where you have seen that here in Davis-Monthan, you did great reporting on that here right in Tucson on Davis-Monthan, there is high probability that that is foreign enemy, probably Chinese tech that they could not keep up with because Border Patrol and Tucson PD aircraft could not even read it with their NVGs.
And that's probably their stealth tech.
I'm glad you mentioned that.
That's right.
This stealth drone was spotted hovering over Tucson, not only monitoring the Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, but also the Morgan Kinder Natural Gas Pipeline Infrastructure Facility that's there.
And what I found most amazing about that report, which was published by thedrive.com, was that, like you said, it was a police helicopter and a Customs and Border Protection helicopter.
They apparently observed this stealth drone climbing and fleeing, climbing through 14,000 feet and evading them.
So whatever it is, it goes faster than these helicopters, which don't really have very high speeds, you know, horizontally.
But this is obviously not some battery powered toy drone, right?
It's something totally different.
No, but if you put a drone and then you put a Mylar kind of balloon around it and you keep it from hitting and then you start and then you link a bunch of them, then that starts to look almost exactly like the UFO stuff as well.
And also a lot of the UFO military reports have been exaggerated in that regard.
But you also forgot to mention the Palo Verde nuclear plant, which again ties into the same pattern with the Chinese harsh words on nuke and the leaking Chinese nuclear plant as well.
So the most thing about intelligence is to tie all the pattern pieces together and see the timeframe of how they fit together.
And for me, all of those fit together.
Yeah, well, let me just mention as we're approaching the end of this conversation, Jeffrey, you're one of the most informed and truly brilliant analysts that I'm privileged to be able to interview.
I want to encourage people to check out your website, jeffreyprather.com.
We'll put it on screen.
And could you share with our audience what is Team America and how can they get involved in Team America?
So you can register for Team America on my website, jeffreyprather.com.
And Team America is not militia.
It's simply Americans relying on God and each other and not toxic, corrupt government.
That's how we got started with a toxic, corrupt Britain government.
And that's how we need to return to restore our republic, not relying on a toxic, corrupt D.C. government.
And it is out by state.
And it's a bunch of folks, not just pessimists, Not progressively listening to my podcast, but getting together, figuring out what their local problems are together, meeting up, And relying on each other.
So I've been doing this.
You know, I have my chaplaincy circle, my dojo circle, my HMAC circle, my horsemanship circle.
I've had folks that I can rely on for decades, and I want everybody else to have that too.
And so now I have a nice listenership.
And so they get together and they're figuring out how to meet and how to get together.
But it's not a militia, but it is people taking back.
There's a big Texas contingent.
They're still trying to figure out what they're doing.
Florida is very well organized.
Ohio is very well organized.
And so that's what Team America is.
And then it breaks down to regions, to counties, or to cities, areas.
You know, hey, this is what we've got to work on here.
For example, here in Arizona, Team Arizona in Nogales and Sierra Vista is very concerned about border security.
Team Maricopa in Phoenix is working the audit.
So everybody figures out and I provide guidance and it's free and it's just something that you can register for and then move forward to do something because we have to do this at a grassroots level to restore our republic.
And they can find links to register for that on jeffreyprather.com?
Yes, and there's also a Team Canada up there, because I got requests from Team Canada, and now I'm getting requests for Guatemala and Thailand, and so I'm going to do a Team Freedom Global or something, so people can tie in and help.
Okay, so folks, if you do that, show up in blue jeans, not camo.
Because it's not a militia, like Jeffrey said.
And if anyone...
I mean, you understand this is going to be infiltrated by FBI operatives, of course, but I'm sure...
Well, I'm not going to ask you to say anything that you don't want to say publicly, but I'm sure you've put this warning out that people need to be lawful, they need to abide by the Constitution, abide by human rights, and be proactive in aiding society and, you know, not doing anything crazy.
Of course.
I did a whole cast on this, verify and evaluate.
I always say I'm never advocating anything illegal or moral or unethical or violent.
And I put out a pretty detailed explanation of how to look, you know, like if they're saying...
Make SBRs, short-barreled rifles, or they're saying kidnap the governor or their FBI. It's like the Wolverines.
They had five FBI guys there.
The Wolverines, as you said, tie into the D.C. thing.
That's why they don't want to release the tapes because there's a black ops tape.
It's on my site.
I'm sure it's on your site of the team breaking in ahead of time into the Capitol.
No, we're nothing like that.
And I did a whole cast on how to evaluate somebody because I asked these people that I met with in Missouri.
I said, so when do you think the next war?
And they're like, well, I'm not sure.
And they said...
They used to be in SOCOM Intel, like I was in SOCOM Intel.
And I'm like, what was your rank?
And the lady goes, E3. No, O3. Well, the difference between a corporal and a captain, nobody would ever.
And then, of course, when they said the next war, they said, maybe it's China.
And, of course, what I'm always saying is we're in the next war.
So they didn't even know my stuff.
And there was no real offer there.
So that's how you figure that out.
And yes, of course we're going to be infiltrated.
We've figured out some of those guys already.
But we're not doing anything illegal, immoral, unethical anyway.
But we do have a right to privacy.
And that's all we're looking for there.
Well, I jokingly say, if you find yourself in a white van with three other people and you're wondering who's the patsy because the driver's going to kidnap the governor of Michigan, the answer is, you're the patsy, the other three guys are FBI and they're driving you so they can arrest you.
It's so obvious what they do.
I mean, you really have to be crazy to fall for some of their tactics.
They recruit, I mean, they entrap a lot of people with the simplest things.
Like here, Here's 50 bucks, drive this van down the road, you know, and the van's full of explosive, well, simulated explosives put there by the FBI to blow up a bridge or something, you know?
People get caught in that.
I think the best one was in Garland, Texas, where the FBI agent drives to the Draw Mohammed event with two ISIS terrorists with AK-47s.
The Texas cop drops both of them with his pistol, and then the FBI agent tries to flee.
That's, I think, my favorite one.
But yeah, it's the federal barrier of entrapment at this point, and they really just need to go away.
Okay, very last question and then we're out of time, but this is a funny one.
I've gone full redneck and I've placed an order for a crossbow now that apparently claims to fire at 500 feet per second, which is unheard of for crossbow velocity.
It's coming out in July.
What do you think the effective range on that's going to be for like small game hunting or something like that?
Well, you think I can get 150 yards out of that?
Well, I think you could get more than that.
You know, the Montagnards use crossbows instead of suppressors, and of course, there's less signature.
It goes through vests, and that's the whole thing with Robin Hood and the longbow, is because you can hack off a limb.
You really should go longbow, which is 300 yards, because that...
That was really, truly personal weapon, re-insuring personal liberty, because any peasant could make a longbow that could hit at, you know, 300 yards, take a knight, go through his armor.
The crossbow was a little too, but you can even simplify that.
Even there's, what do they call it, sling bows.
Sling bows are good, too, or even slings, David versus Goliath.
The more simple, the more resilient, and, of course, the less signature.
But yeah, so you could certainly get that.
Although, you know, for moral purposes, when you're going to take the gift of the Creator for meat, then you should be close enough to make sure you make the shot.
Of course.
Like, the only deer I've ever got, I broke the spine.
So it's instant.
But yeah, crossbows are excellent.
Alright, well, thanks for your comments on that.
That'll be the first crossbow I've ever played with, and we'll just see how it goes.
I'm not going to stop carrying my pistol, obviously, and having my rifles, but, you know, just going to have something else that's quiet in case of a collapse scenario.
If I need to, you know, maybe protect the chickens from coyotes or something, I've got a quiet way to do that.
Thank you, Jeffrey, for chiming in today.
This has been an extraordinary conversation.
You are a blessing to this nation.
I really honor what you're doing.
I want to encourage people to visit your website.
It's just an honor to know you, Jeffrey.
Thank you so much.
Well, thank you, and welcome to being full-on redneck.
That's great.
Yeah, yeah, I'll do my best.
I'll buy a six-pack of beer and punch holes in it with a crossbow.
How about that?
All right.
All right.
Well, thank you so much and be well.
We'll talk again soon.
Thanks.
God bless.
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