Greg Caton warns 2021 - 2024 will see "end times" global warfare to end the USA
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- Hello and welcome everyone to Brighton Conversations.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com.
This is the platform where you will have discussions and interviews like this one that you will never see, certainly not anywhere in the allowable tech industry.
Today we have a guest that is one of the most informed, connected, and also previously persecuted individuals in the world today.
His name is Greg Caton, and his website is HerbHealers.com.
For a background bio, you can visit GregCaton.com, that's C-A-T-O-N.
But check out his main site, HerbHealers, plural, dot com.
He's an herbalist, and I knew him personally in Ecuador.
He still lives in Ecuador.
When I lived there over a decade ago, we got together and shared notes and now we're getting a chance to do that again remotely.
I'm in Texas.
He's in Ecuador.
So, Greg Caton, I know you have a lot to share with us.
It's an honor to have you back on.
You're an extraordinary individual and you have knowledge that can help save humanity.
I'm not exaggerating.
It's critical what you have to say.
So welcome.
Thank you for joining us.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you for having me, Mike.
Well, it's just an honor to have you on.
So, it's almost like, where do we begin?
Because we've got a lot to cover about what's happening in the world, but if you were to give us a big picture...
That people can start to see with their own eyes what's happening in Ukraine and with Russia and China, trying to influence over the Democrat and Republican parties, the takedown of America.
I mean, people can see that.
So what else do they need to know, big picture-wise, about what's happening in the world and where this is headed?
They need to know the...
They need to understand how much of this is engineered and that they need to dispense with this idea that any of this is accidental.
This is a very, very highly engineered event.
I believe that World War III, and I make this point in the video that I put on Brighteon, is you can trace this all the way back, and it may go much farther, back to the work of...
Albert Pike in 1873 when he wrote Morals and Dogma.
So the things that we're seeing now are the culmination of plans that the architects of what we're seeing today have been working for this on generations.
Men that conceived of this 100 years ago are long gone dead and buried in the ground, but their vision carried on.
And unfortunately, that vision has come to us today.
Now, as it relates...
I'm going to focus mostly on North America because that's where the vast majority of your viewers are from.
People need to understand that There is a World War III brewing, and it is a highly engineered event.
Now, what got my attention, and I had been hearing this for a long time, as I told you before, I was very good friends with an elitist, someone who knew people at the very, very top of the power structure, a man who was an international banker by the name of George Green.
We were very good friends.
We were so close as friends that he left me the keys to his apartment because, among other things, he had an apartment here in Ecuador when he was visiting.
And I had a chance to hear from him for years.
And one of the things that he kept saying over and over again, he says, you've got to understand, World War III is coming.
The architects of this are a little upset.
They're saying they're running behind schedule.
And they emphasized over and over again the importance of the population.
He went on and on about, you know, people think that the Georgia Guidestones were maybe just an interesting piece of art.
It is their...
That map of where they want to take us and where the United States and Western Europe fits into this is just an absolute stunning culling of numbers as it relates to populations.
So this would get a lot of people immediately thinking about the website that had been offline, may still be offline, deagle.com.
We don't know who's behind that.
Maybe you have more information about that.
But they were predicting a decline of U.S. population from its current numbers of 330-plus million down to, I think, 65 million people.
So an extraordinary culling of the vast majority of the American people.
Does that ring true?
And they've adjusted it in 65 and 66 before they took it offline a couple weeks ago because it was getting too much exposure from Zero Hedge.
They were saying 99.
It doesn't matter.
66, 99, whatever.
We're talking about the deliberate planned engineer demise of 220 million Americans.
So You know, and I hate to say this, but that and among other reasons is one of the reasons that I came to...
I mean, we all have our reasons, and I'm sure when you were here, you met a lot of people who had different reasons for being here, right?
Oh, yeah.
But I've known this is coming for some time, so it's one of the reasons I made my ex to South America.
There are other reasons.
I don't want to just say it's just that.
I knew the way they treated me, that I would never be able to live a normal life in the United States again.
In fact, my own criminal defense lawyer said, his exact words, they hate your guts.
And I was like, really?
I don't even know these guys.
How can these people hate me?
I don't even know who they are.
He says, they hate your gut.
So I knew that I would never be allowed to live a normal life in the United States, no matter what I said or did.
So that's another reason.
I don't want to make it sound like it was only this issue, but it's just very disturbing what's happening.
And it bothers me greatly that people don't See it.
There's two quotes that I have used in the last couple of my videos, and people should consider these two quotes together in what knowledge it should impart to you, particularly if you're a prepper.
One, and they're both from Albert Einstein, by the way.
One, there are two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe.
And I know that sounds, you know, a not nice thing to say, but combine it with this one.
Respect for authority is the enemy of truth.
And the problem we have with COVID, what we've been seeing these last 14 months, is people's resignation that whatever the authorities say, it's got to be true.
You have a moral responsibility to trust Fauci.
Bill Gates is here to help us.
It's incredible.
Yeah.
And I don't know how much of my video you saw, but I really was intrigued.
I don't know who it was that turned me on to them.
There's this genre on YouTube of live feeding of mice to snakes.
And I just was absolutely shocked that after I saw a few of them, just because I was curious, the mice never reflect this Idea that they're in the presence of a predator who's about to kill them.
They're just like humans, and they're mammals like we are.
That's why when you hear about a pharmaceutical company doing testing, why do they work with mice and rats?
And the reason is because our physiology is close enough to mice and rats to make mice and rat studies worthwhile for testing various drugs.
People are behaving like mice.
And when you see these videos, you see the mice go right up to the...
kiss the fangs of the snake that's about to bite them and kill them.
It's amazing.
But the relevancy is, and this is a really important metaphor, the relevancy is people are behaving just like those YouTube videos with all those snakes killing and eating the mice.
It's a...
Powerful metaphor.
And you're exactly right.
You know what I've called it, Greg, is the voluntary holocaust.
People are volunteering to go in to be injected with a biological weapons system that will kill them.
And it's happening at the street corner.
You know, it's at the pharmacy just down the road.
And it's all voluntary.
And if you try to save those people, just like if you try to say to the mouse, hey, mousey, there's a giant snake in here that's going to eat you.
Maybe you should run away.
The mouse would go, what?
Everything's fine.
It's all going back to normal.
And you see this.
And by the way, there's hundreds of these videos.
It's not like one or two.
It's a whole genre.
Within the video community.
And I'm like, if you've seen one or two of these videos, you've seen them all.
They all have the same thing.
The mouse goes into the cage and the snake bites it and then it dies and then it gets devoured.
Doesn't that get boring after a while?
But these videos, what is it with people?
They have millions and millions of views.
I'm just shocked.
That's just crazy.
It's shocking that people are aware of this, but those are mice.
People wouldn't behave like that.
Oh, yeah, they do.
Oh, yeah, they do.
Well, we posted a video just yesterday.
I think it's from a South American country.
It looked like a vaccine, like an arena or maybe a high school conference.
Basketball court that had been converted into a post-vaccine recovery area.
And a woman's talking to the camera about how great the vaccines are.
A woman behind her, sitting among other people in these folding chairs, having been vaccinated, just like passes out and face plants on the floor right behind her.
I saw that on Breitian.
I saw that on Breitian.
Yeah.
And this is happening all over the place.
I mean, that's the same as just watching.
I mean, there's a mouse.
There's a serpent in there, which is a really good metaphor for the vaccine industry.
And the fangs are the needles.
And the venom is the spike protein.
I mean, it's almost literal.
It's almost not just a metaphor.
I have a friend that actually lives where you used to live, Mike.
He's in that San Joaquin community.
I don't know if you're aware of his work.
His name is Robert Powell.
He's written 25 books.
He's an incredible...
He's a biblicist.
He's a master astrologer.
He's an astonishing scholar, and I'm actually proud to call him a friend.
He relates this.
He describes this, you know, vaccine is the mark of the beast and how if you really understood the ancient Greek, if you knew the intonations and what these words mean, it's actually describing something that for people who would have lived 2,000 years ago, it's an astonishing close description of what People will have to endure.
And people are not listening or not paying attention.
And it's starting to me because of the sheer obviousness of it.
Well, right.
It's all in our faces.
I mean, it's the engineered takedown recently of the pipelines, you know, the southeastern pipeline in the U.S. Governor Whitmer of Michigan is trying to take down another pipeline.
It's all deliberate.
The erosion of the currency, that's going to lead to total collapse of the dollar.
And by the way, aren't dollars still the currency in Ecuador as well?
Yeah, they are.
We are very reliant on the dollar, and we're linked to it.
And the president-elect, who will be inaugurated 12 days from now, Guillermo Lazo, I think he's penned in.
I don't think he's got a choice.
We're going to end up going down with the Titanic, you know?
No, no, you don't need a lifeboat.
You don't need a lifeboat.
Everything's fine.
Let's go back in and have another drink.
Yeah, we're going to go down with the ship, too, because there's no alternative.
Peru and our two neighbors, Peru and Colombia, have their own currencies, but we're with the dollar.
So I'm sure we will see first the hyperinflation, because that's what this pipeline stuff is all about.
Psychologically prime the public to prepare themselves psychologically for hyperinflation, which would happen anyway just because of all this helicopter money floating around.
But I want to get back to what you started with here, World War III. What's the big picture role of China, Russia, and the United States, and maybe Ukraine in the mix as well?
How does this play out according to your context?
I do business around the world, so I communicate with people.
You know, I have friends in Poland, Romania, Bulgaria.
I have friends in Ukraine.
I mean, I get feedback of on-the-ground assessment of things.
What they've tried to do is mollify the American public, and they started doing this on April 22nd, saying it's okay.
Putin assures us he's pulling back the troops.
Everything's calmed down.
Everything's okay.
He didn't.
He left all the hardware there.
Yes, he moved a couple thousand troops within 100 or 200 kilometers.
Those guys could be back in place within 24 hours.
But the hardware...
He's not moving out the major hardware.
And when you combine that to the fact that when you look at the policies of Joseph Biden and the language they use, you always have to pay attention to the language.
It's very, very insightful.
I mean, we keep poking the bear, poke, poke, poke, poke.
Pick your metaphor.
Poking the snake, poking the bear.
You keep poking, and what we're doing now is we're doing things where we are posing an existential threat to Russia, and Russia knows it.
And this is all by design.
An intelligent person wouldn't do that.
They're wanting to provoke Russia into a reaction that then the Biden regime can paint as Russian aggression.
Now, by the way, this is the same thing that they're doing domestically.
They're trying to provoke a civil war reaction from the militia groups by claiming that the insurrection of January 6th was a militia operation to overthrow the government.
Now, it's just a bunch of tourists walking between the velvet ropes, taking selfies.
I know.
It's really unbelievable.
But the reason I have this insight and the reason I know another reason, quite apart from my relationship with George Green, another reason I know World War II, I point this out in the video.
I used to work for an intelligence agency, and I had a top-secret clearance plus three compartmental clearances above top-secret and SI, which is special intelligence.
It's a whole separate community, T-S-S-I. And yes, I only worked in it in three years.
I'm not trying to make it sound like I was a careerist or a lifer or something like that, but three years is enough exposure to that to understand the rhythms, to see The modus operandi and how they work and how we do things and how we incite We're good to
that I realized I will never see or hear anything in the mainstream media again and trust a word of it because I was able to compare what I saw in the mainstream media with my top secret reports.
And I could see enough of a difference that even as a 20 and then 21 and then 22-year-old, I could see there's two different realities here.
There's the intel that government agencies keep for themselves, and there's the horse crap they feed the public.
And I could see that in my early 20s.
So it's kind of colored my entire adult life, because once you've been exposed to that, it changes you.
You're not the same person.
Yeah, yeah.
What they're doing right now is, it's so evident.
They're absolutely attempting to put Russia and China, both in a corner, more Russia than China, so that the two of them will become aligned.
You know, this is the old biblical, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
So that they're aligned together, and this is not going to be pretty.
They're going to kick our ass.
And my concern is, and people don't think about this.
I said this in the video.
You know, There's these people out there that say, I don't know if you've heard this, this really is a conspiracy theory.
I don't know if it's true or not, that this whole thing has been exaggerated.
There's no such thing as a nuclear bomb.
This guy who was Neil Bohr's grandson said, he said, you could never get the chain reaction going that long.
But let me tell you something we know does exist.
EMP weapons really do exist.
That technology does exist.
And all they'd have to do is send a few missiles above the United States Get those suckers to kick off at 40,000 feet, and you would wipe out the entirety of what we call modernity.
America would go back to the Stone Age.
Then you'd have this thing, and I think, what was this guy's name, William Forrester, one day after?
You would have, with America going back in the Stone Age, that's all they would need.
You'd have, within three days, people would be killing each other.
You'd have cannibalism.
You'd have...
Basically, Seattle is what you're saying.
Or Portland.
Worse.
Worse.
I had a friend the other day that sent me an email and says, you know, I always thought the zombie apocalypse thing was a science fiction, but it's inbound.
We're living it.
We're living the zombie apocalypse, especially with these vaccines.
There's no question about it.
You know, the vaccines are causing all these blood clot strokes in people.
And I don't know when was the last time you were in the States, but vaccidents are real.
People are driving off the roads.
People are losing.
They're having so many strokes.
They're getting kind of like mini lobotomies and people are showing up at office jobs and they forgot how to do their job.
Because that part of their brain has lost blood supply.
It's extraordinary.
The zombification.
I mean, this is like the Will Smith movie, I Am Legend, in New York.
And that was all started with the vaccine as well, that movie script.
Come on, that's predictive programming.
I'm telling you.
It's really happening.
On a practical note, and by the way, Paul Craig Roberts has been warning for years about America's posturing against Russia, how America has essentially surrounded Russia, or at least parts of Russia, with aggressive posturing missiles and so on.
And this was going on under the Trump administration as well.
So, you know, this isn't just a Biden thing, although Biden's making it way worse, but The military has been posturing for this for many years.
The people in charge of the Pentagon who now are bragging about all gay helicopter crews and transgender LGBT soldiers, the Russians are going to wipe those people out in no time.
It's so important to have pregnant fighter pilots be properly fitted with the uniform.
It's unreal.
We've reached a level of it's becoming so cartoonish.
And to think that people would actually think this is reality, it's really disturbing.
I know a number of people who are by their nature.
They're just not religious at all.
And all of a sudden, the sheer number of disturbing synchronicities are causing them to review things.
You know, the other day I was on someone and said, are you aware that this is this and this and this?
You know, I just go, what?
what He says, yeah, yeah, yeah, Jeremiah, 50 and 51, and that matches up what you see in the book of Revelations, chapter 18, verse...
I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, back up.
I didn't know that you were into this kind of thing.
He says, I wasn't.
I am now.
No kidding.
And what's shocking a lot of people is if you treat...
The Book of Revelations is a narrative.
Let's just say there's nothing special about it.
It wasn't a saint that wrote it.
It's just a work.
Somebody 2,000 years ago wrote this work, and maybe it's fiction.
Who knows?
It is as if the elite of our world are using the Book of Revelations as a roadmap, which is really quite...
Stunning when you think of it.
You know, it's really stunning that you've got something that old and that ancient, and it really appears there's so many parallels and synchronicities.
It looks as if they're using this, they can't help themselves.
They're using this as a roadmap.
And if you just read this book, then you say, well...
I want to know what comes next.
I want to know what's coming six months down the road from now.
All you've got to do is read this book because there's a sequential pattern to what happens in the book.
My friend who's a biblicist, Robert Powell, says, yeah, right now we're at the end of chapter 14.
We've got eight more chapters to go.
The book ends with chapter 22.
And he, to the point where he actually believes he's figured out the time frame of when this hell ends, the beginning of it and the ending of it, he's got the whole thing And a rather astonishing display of erudition.
He feels, and he actually makes some pretty compelling arguments, when this thing began...
We should talk to him.
We should, I mean, reach out to him.
We should have him on to talk about that.
Well, I'll be specific.
I'll be specific.
I just don't want to talk in a way where I'm going to lose part of your audience, because there's not that many people who are into this.
But he has this idea...
There is a strain of thinking, it actually shows up too in Matthew 24, about paying attention to the sky.
Pay attention.
Have your eyes open.
Pay attention.
There'll be signs in the sky.
Pay attention.
And so on August 21st, 2017, we had a total eclipse.
It goes from Oregon all the way to the north.
It just went all the way across.
Okay?
Well...
And about approximately seven years later, which is supposedly what tribulation to these people is, and it ends on April 8, 2024.
And when you look at it, it goes from Mexico, and the two of them together form a perfect crucifix.
And that, plus many, many other astrological things, and I don't want to get too arcane here because we'd just lose your audience, so I don't want to get too far into it, but he says that's a seven-year period, but where it really got hairy the past three and a half years, according to Christian eschatology, is those last three and a half years, the Great Tribulation, where it really gets really, really, really bad.
So that's November 2nd, two days before the election with Trump.
I said, where do you get this?
Where on earth do you get this?
He says, and he called this thing about the Jupiter and Saturn alignment.
I said, no, I know enough a little bit about astrology.
That happens on December 21st or 22nd.
He goes, no, no, no.
It's not the geocentric view.
In order to understand it accurately, you have to look at it geocentrically.
And November 22nd, he says, it's never exactly 3 1⁄2, but you've got 3 1⁄2 plus 3 1⁄2 equals 7.
So we're going to have hell like you've never imagined hell before, and it will basically last for another three years.
We're six months into it.
And I could discard this.
It's like, okay, great.
I love your theory.
Everyone's got a theory.
Thank you very much.
Except what I can't get out of my head is if this isn't The Great Tribulation.
If this isn't hell on earth right now with people doing this, going through what they're going through with these vaccinations and the spiked proteins and a woman's married to a man who gets vaccinated because it's required for his job and she comes home and she sleeps in the same bed with him.
Now she's getting all these incredibly horrible from the spiked proteins just because she's sleeping in the same bed with him.
If this isn't the Great Tribulation, I can't imagine what it would be, because what we're seeing is beyond demonic.
I mean, to me, in my way of thinking, it's demonic on steroids, what we're seeing.
And to think, really?
This is the early stages?
We're really not that far into it yet?
We're just getting started?
Really?
Thank you for that one.
You just made my day.
And this is how I'm...
You can look at this thing from a linear regression point of view and say, okay, if I were to plot this out, if I were to try to make this quantitative and plot this out, does it look like it's getting better from here or worse from here?
It looks and feels like, for the last six months, this has just been the book introduction.
We haven't got to the corpus yet.
It's going to get much, much, much worse.
And the way that Biden's behaving...
It just looks like this is in the cards, and it looks like this is the description.
By the way, my friend, George Green, the banker I told you about, had a cancer.
He refused any form of treatment, conventional or natural.
I offered to help him.
And I asked him, why?
Why are you doing this?
And you've probably encountered this in your work as well.
There are people who really don't want help.
It's like, look, don't bother me.
I'm ready to go.
I don't want to be here.
Just please leave me alone.
I don't want to be here.
I'm ready to go.
I've heard this more and more.
It's almost like death is a life raft.
And when he died in June, the last couple of years, because of his condition and so forth, we weren't talking or communicating as much.
But when he died of June 2019, one of the last things he said to me before he died is he says, it's coming, it's soon, I hope you're ready for it.
I'm just glad that I'm not going to be around for it.
Bon voyage!
You know, what your friend is saying there, I mean, I'm very intrigued by all of that information, and it does, it intertwines with other vectors of research.
For example, we know, I just put out a podcast, Mass Famine is Coming, because, you know, we're in the food business, like you were in the food business, so you know, if you start to see commercial food supplies collapsing, you know there's a trickle-down time period.
So, for the end user.
I'm a fan of Christopher's work at IceAgeFarmer.com.
You did a great interview with him, by the way.
Yeah, IceAgeFarmer.
He's on top of this.
He's great.
When I was doing my blog and putting out daily, when I was doing my daily blog, he was one of the people I stayed on top of, and he is describing it to a T. And you can see the intentionality of it to it.
We are going to starve you to death.
We're going to use the vaccines.
We're going to cut the food supply.
We're going to increase more chemtrailing than you've ever seen before.
Humanity is under this constant assault.
The other element of this that's not being talked by many people, that's why I wanted to insert it into my spiel, was It's my familiarity since the mid-70s with the work of David M. Jacobs, the number of people that are involved.
That's why it's very hard to understand why humanity is acting this way.
Maybe it's really not humanity.
I have personal friends who have studied this.
Very intensely, very intellectually, who have actually come to the conclusion that maybe as few as 10% of the people that are in this world that we think are human are actually human and the rest of them are hybrids.
And I know that that's going to be a big pill for some people to swallow, but...
Then we have to ask ourselves, well, if it's not true, then why does it seem that we're surrounded by people that appear human that don't behave like humans?
Is the theory that they are self-aware that they are not human or that they don't know it?
I had an epiphany.
This is also in the video, by the way.
My wife and I used to go to all the, you know, there's these shows called Natural Products West, Natural Products East.
They're important.
If you're in the food business, they're important trade shows to attend if you are selling through conventional wholesale and retail channels.
So my wife and I went all the time.
It was somewhat obligatory.
So I get this guy come up to me in this particular event.
It was Nashville.
And this is July 1992, so we're talking 29 years ago.
He invites me to dinner, and he's a psychologist.
I asked him, how are you doing these days?
What are you doing?
He says, well, I'm focusing on helping people who have been abducted by aliens.
And I'm like, really?
Really?
Is that a good business?
The literature has, what, a few hundred people have been abducted?
How do you make a living doing something like that?
Isn't it difficult to clients?
He says, no, no.
There are millions and millions, just in the U.S., millions of Americans who have been abducted.
And they have this obsession with human reproduction and our sex organs and everything else, and they're making hybrids and reinserting them back into our society.
And this is explained, and he's been working on this since 1966.
Technically, his last book was in 2015 called Walking Among Us.
I have, you know, been exposed to this, and there's an incredible number of, you know, when you start, when you know what to look for, there's an incredible number of people that you question, is this person really human?
And, you know, and I know this, you know, I know people are thinking this is out there and really woo-woo, but if you really treat it dispassionately, because you just want to study it and say, is there any truth to this?
Is this a complete crock?
And there's a lot of disturbing data.
Although he started in 1966, it really didn't get to him until 1998 when he wrote a book called The Threat.
Now, why is this important?
Why are we even talking about this?
Because if you look at how the democratization of insanity, that's what we're even talking about.
Basically, we're dealing with people who just, where you're shaking your head and going, could people possibly be that stupid?
Is it they're stupid?
Or they've just been programmed to do this because they're not really human.
And when you get into David Jacobs' work, you realize there's something...
I don't know the extent of it.
I don't know the numbers.
I don't know if we'll ever know the numbers.
I don't know how you even quantify this.
But you better pay attention to it because it helps to explain why people are not acting like humans.
People who appear like us, people who appear to be human, people who, you know, 2 plus 2 equals...
I'll give you a hint.
It's the number right after three.
I mean, I had a different theory that I talked about on this.
I called these people non-player characters, NPCs.
And I thought for a time, maybe they were born without souls or something.
And so they became programmable life forms.
And if you don't have a soul, it means you don't have a sense of consciousness or self-direction, making you extremely programmable by media, social media, propaganda.
Hybrids are like that.
And have you heard this?
I'm sure you have, because you're so on top of this.
But have you heard of these people who get the vaccine and they start crying?
I can't feel my soul.
What's happened to me?
I can't feel my soul.
I can't feel something of me is left.
I can't feel it.
Wow.
Well, I mean, I've interviewed several doctors.
One recently said the whole thing is Luciferian, that it is a demonic engineering of the sequences and ingredients that are part of the injection.
And a lot of doctors now refuse to call it a vaccine at all.
It's not a vaccine.
It's something else.
It seems to be maybe exotic technology, And when you get into self-replicating vaccines with nanotech and aerogel, I've heard some people describe it as actual alien-derived exotic technology.
That's another rabbit hole to go down, you know?
Yeah, that's why I had it inserted into my video, because I think it's a component that helps to understand better why this is happening.
Because otherwise, there's so much of the COVID phenomenon, what we've seen over the last four years, That makes a normal rational person say to themselves, if not to anyone else, this cannot be happening.
This can't be happening.
The posturing of...
Joe Biden?
Joe Biden?
A guy that couldn't find his butt with both hands, a map, and a flashlight?
And this guy came out of his basement, was meeting with 20, 30, 50 people, and no matter what you think of Trump, this guy was packing stadiums of 50,000 people.
The whole idea that anyone could rationally believe that this guy was voted president?
It stretches...
It's an insult to our intelligence.
They're gaslighting us.
This is the greatest display of gaslighting in the history of civilization.
But the most amazing part is you're looking around and you just can't believe it.
I went into a walk-in theater with my wife in June of 2004.
That's when Michael Moore was doing that thing.
What was it called?
Fahrenheit 9-11, I think it was called.
Fahrenheit 9-11.
And I remember...
451.
Was it?
Yeah, wasn't it 451?
Wasn't it based on the book?
That's Bradbury.
I'm talking about the fact that Michael Murray did his own take on it.
In fact, he actually got sued by the estate of Red Bradbury, who originally wrote the sci-fi novel...
Oh, okay.
Michael Moore, yeah.
Michael Moore did it, and it was called Fahrenheit 9-11.
Okay.
In the early opening part of the movie, you see that genius of a president...
George Bush sitting there telling some duck story or something to some kindergartners.
And an aide walks up to him telling him about the first building has been hit.
And he looks up like this and he looks at his handlers in the back and he goes...
You could feel the acknowledgement.
Well, when I was in the movie theater, it was one of those walk-in theaters, you know, And as you looked over the theater of people who were there who had paid a ticket to see this movie, you saw everyone going like this.
It was as if to say, did you see what I'd seen?
Did you see that?
Did you see what I saw?
Did you see what I saw?
And that's the phenomenon in a kind of more macroscopic way of what COVID and then the vaccines.
This is what it's doing.
It's like...
You're looking around, you're going, are you seeing this?
Are you paying attention?
Do you see this?
And it shocks you when people are going, yeah, I did.
It's all cool.
It's all fine.
They are being lobotomized.
I'm seeing this even in people that I used to know because the person they once were is gone.
You can't communicate with them anymore.
It's like, when I was really young, when I was in, I guess, I guess I was like in the eighth grade.
I volunteered at a nursing home and would just bring water to elderly patients.
And many of them had lost their minds.
They all just wanted human contact and wanted somebody to hold their hand, which is understandable.
But their minds were gone in so many ways.
And I have not seen that until now.
Now, with post-vaccination people, they remind me of the dementia patients in nursing homes because they're not there anymore.
It's like something has left them.
We're watching the zombie apocalypse.
I mean, it's happening in our own neighborhoods, the pharmacies, the grocery stores with the COVID shots, and people are lining up for it, and they have no idea what they're signing up for.
And then they'll tell you, Greg, if you talk to them before they get the vaccine, they'll say, oh, well, I believe in science.
What?
What do you think you're saying?
You believe in science?
You have no idea what mad science is at work in this demonic system that you're about to inject into your body where they won't even reveal the ingredients?
You believe in science?
I mean, you read the ingredients on a box of Cheerios.
You won't even find out what's in this vaccine before you mainline it?
Are you kidding me?
Being here in South America, I've got about 30 core plants that I use when we're dealing with cancer patients.
Most of the people we deal with are people that have been told to go home and die.
Most of the people who come to me are stage four.
They've done everything else.
Now they're thinking about something natural after they've tried.
And what amazes me is how much real science, truth, real science, has been suppressed and replaced with narratives that are completely injurious to humanity, as if,
well maybe I shouldn't say as if, because this is what it is, as if there was this kind of demonic spirit We're residing over medicine, nutrition, all the arts that we know that are essential to have an understanding of if you're going to live a nice, long, healthy life.
That's all suppressed.
And there's this...
I mean, I can't believe how many different herbs I work with that are on, you know, the FDA's poisonous database.
And it's nonsense.
I mean, when I actually look and say, okay, I need to be objective about this, they're saying that this is hepatotoxic.
This could actually hurt your liver.
Okay, but...
And then the deeper I look in, it goes, this is just a crock.
There's no basis, there's no foundation for this.
We're living in a fantasy land.
And so when people say, well, I'm going to get, as you just said a moment ago, I'm going to go get the vaccine because I believe in science.
Science?
What they should be saying is, I believe in my right to embrace medical propaganda.
Because that's what they're doing.
Yeah, and the FDA will say an herb is hepatotoxic, but then they'll sell, they'll allow Tylenol to be sold over the counter, right next to the alcohol aisle, causing, you know, how many deaths a year from liver damage from acetaminophen and alcohol?
Oh, that's perfectly okay because it makes money for a drug company, you see.
But you can't buy an herb That doesn't harm anyone.
I mean, think about if an herb that you were selling, if it killed as many people as have been killed by the COVID-19 vaccine so far, there would be front page news everywhere.
Oh my God, this herb is killing untold people.
It's so unsafe.
But when a vaccine kills tens of thousands, which is where it's at in America right now, tens of thousands, not a word.
In 2008, I did a hiyahuasca journey with a man who was 104 years old.
And we had to hike extensively for three hours to get to the camp where we were going to do the journey.
I had problems keeping up with him.
He was incredible.
I mean, here at the time, I'd say, why would I have been 52?
So this man was twice my age.
I was 52.
He was 104 years old.
And one of the things he said to me is that we understand, those of us who live deep in the Amazon, we understand How toxic civilization is.
Yes, we live much simpler lives, but we understand that it's toxic, and the road that it's on, it only gets worse from here.
Now, I wrote another article.
This is a really important one.
There's a tribe in central Ecuador called the Sarayaku tribe.
They're mostly in Tungurahua, which is like five hours from here going north.
I'm in this woman and she's making all these ceramic figures and they're really grotesque looking.
I said, what are you doing there?
What is all this about?
And she says, listen to me.
She was very stern with me.
Listen to me.
This is in 2008, so we have a time frame.
She said, very soon everything is going to be demonic.
This is part of our cosmology.
You will feel like there are demons coming out of the woods, coming out of the rivers and the streams, coming out of the mountains, that you are surrounded by demonic activity.
It is coming.
We know this.
We, the Sarayaku, we understand and we are preparing for this.
And then they have all kinds of underground cave systems and everything else where they're just going to, you know, when this thing really gets going in a big way, preparing for it.
And I just really was amazed that a tribe in the Amazon would have an entire cosmology of Describing in 2008 what was going to happen.
The other amazing thing, really, really amazing thing that happened to me in my time in the Amazon jungles, I met a shaman, a guy by the name of Francisco Sequenza.
He was up outside of Coca.
It's a province called Oriana here in Ecuador.
And I asked him, I said, you are revered by other shamans.
You're like a shaman, shaman.
Tell me, tell me, what is the most amazing experience you've ever had?
And he told me, oh, the most amazing experience I ever had was in 1984.
I was guided by a spirit guide to see into the future.
I said, well, what did he tell you?
And he told me, listen, you have, he told me, you have 40 years.
No more.
40 years.
This ends.
But you will go through 40 more years.
Well, if you take 1984 and you add 40, you come up with 2024.
Just math.
So, I think, this is what I think, and it's beyond the course of just one interview to go into all the...
I mean, you're standing next here to a library of 6,000 books.
I have, personally, probably the largest English-speaking personal library anywhere in Ecuador.
And these books just don't sit here.
I read this.
I spend an enormous amount of my time and study.
But if I were to try to gestalt it for you, try to...
Okay, pack it together and just give it to us in a couple sentences.
I would say the following.
One, it's bad.
It's going to get much worse.
We're in this kind of decrescence, and it's not going to end for probably three years.
What happens after three years?
There is, the best way I can describe it, the Or the way Robert Powell would describe it, the intervention of the Creator.
And I know there's a lot of people that just say, well, I can't swallow that.
And I understand that.
I understand their belief system.
But, you know, the oldest and most respected work in all of Chinese philosophy is the I Ching.
And the most basic fundamental principle of the I Ching is this.
When things reach an extreme, they revert to their opposite.
And I can't imagine anything that's more extreme on the evil side than where we're at now and where this is headed.
And at some point, the pendulum has to reach its extreme and revert to the other side.
How that manifests, I don't know.
But I will tell you this.
Before he died, when you were here, did you ever meet Dr.
Patrick Flanagan, Mr.
Pyramid himself?
Dr.
Patrick Flanagan?
I didn't meet him when I was there.
Well, he also passed on, I think he didn't want to be here either, December 2019.
And he told me, because he spent 12 years with Babaji, this incredible, supposedly, your great saint in India.
And I said, well, when does the madness, when does this end?
He says, it ends in 2024, then you won't believe the world that people live in, who survived this, the world they live in in 2025.
So, I've had enough synchronizes.
You know, if you have a piece of paper and you put a bunch of lines through it, the single most important point on that piece of paper is the ones that have the most intersection of lines.
We have the most intersections.
And if I were to look at all the intersections, it does look and feel like this is going to be three years of incredible hell before we pull out of it.
But World War III starts it, and that's what we started with.
We started talking about World War III, and that's a huge component of it because there's a lot of people that are going to pass from that.
And if they use EMPs, you're going to have people...
What do they say?
We're only nine miles away from total anarchy.
I would argue World War III has already begun because China launched a bioweapon and it has taken down a U.S. president.
It's taken down much of the U.S. economy.
It seems like it's already begun, but it's just...
As Jeffrey Prather calls it, fifth-generational warfare.
Do you think that at some point it goes then kinetic?
Does it go nuclear?
Are we going to have...
That's why I did what I did, because I'm seeing signs that the...
It's like before you have a chess match, you have to put the pieces on the board.
You've got to put all the pieces on the right square.
The two players have to sit down.
They're crossing each other.
There's preparations to getting the chessboard ready, and what I strongly felt...
When I did that video was that what's happening is that what we're watching is the chessboard is being prepared.
And when this goes kinetic, it's going to be nasty.
I don't discount what you just said.
You could say that World War III has already started.
In a non-kinetic sense, yes.
But I'm talking about something where you're going to see a much more jaw-dropping loss of life.
So Russia has hypersonic cruise missiles.
Yes.
And there are basically no defenses against them in the United States.
Rumors are that Russia's cruise missiles are somehow nuclear-powered, giving them unlimited range.
And also, by the way, what do they call it?
They can cruise around and stand by for days in the air running on nuclear power and then they can be told to hit specific targets.
I don't know if that's true.
But that's the rumor.
This is part of the engineering.
I'm sure that you're aware, and please forgive me, I can't remember his name.
The guy that actually invented, was the inventor of the neutron bomb, claims that he was in a room and he had a folder.
He knew what was in this folder.
It was the complete plans for building a neutron bomb.
And George Bush Sr.
handed that...
Manila envelope to his Chinese correspondent.
And the guy who invented the new trombone witnessed this and was like, he was aghast.
He couldn't believe what he was seeing with his own eyes.
So this whole thing of the lack of symmetry between...
This is not going to be a bilateral situation.
Where the Chinese and Russians combined, I mean, they are going to be a force to be reckoned with.
And Biden is behaving in a way that is just so embarrassing.
I mean, it's beyond embarrassing to think that this guy is, after all, also supposedly commander-in-chief.
Really?
Commander-in-chief?
You're commander-in-chief?
We're signaling to the world...
We're basically signaling, and symbols are important.
Symbolism is important.
We are signaling to the world, the war is about to begin, and we give up before it starts.
We're just letting you know that we know where this goes, and we're going to lose.
But we're going to keep poking the snake anyways, because...
We have people above us who are basically prodding us to do this.
I mean, this is so obvious.
So, so obvious.
But what's even more extraordinary about this is that it's Biden supporting clueless liberals who occupy the very cities that will be the first on the target list.
Of any international war.
I mean, even if there's an EMP attack on America, what collapses first?
Well, it's the cities.
You know, when you have no power, no fuel, no water, no food, how do you think that turns out?
Oh, and also they've been defunding the police this whole time.
You've seen this and you've reported on it, this proliferation both in literature and the movies, this idea of predictive programming.
The whole Mad Max series, it's describing the direction of where we're headed.
Americans don't see that.
A really good thought experiment would be this.
Here's a greater thought experiment.
I'm going to look at my community.
I'm going to look at the world around me.
What will this look like in a Mad Max scenario where people are fighting for survival and there's complete lack of food?
Do you know who James Howard Kunzler is?
Yes, I do.
He talks about oil scarcity and the collapse.
He put a book out, and it was April 2005, and the name of the book was The Emergency.
That's right, The Long Emergency.
Excuse me, I'm sorry, The Long Emergency.
So let me tell you, because this is very, very instructive, might be the most important thing I say in this interview.
Back in those days, Art Bell was still around.
You know, he had Art Norrie doing his thing on the weekends, but then on either a Saturday or Sunday, Art Bell would show up and do the show like he used to do full-time back in the 80s and early 90s.
So he has James Howard Kunzler on.
He's talking about it.
And the show is structured.
I'm sure you know this.
It's four hours, and oftentimes the show will be an hour, and they leave the last three hours for call-ins.
You've seen that, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's their structure.
It's their business model, if you will, or sort of their structure.
So he had an hour where he explains what the thing is about and what would it be like, and it's this Mad Max scenario.
And this is important, and this is the most important thing I got out of it.
He had caller after caller after caller come in, call in, and say something like the following.
The wording changed, but here's the essence of it.
I'm not worried about what's coming.
I know Joe Green down the road, and he's got, if it comes down to this, I'll go down and get his food.
You know?
I got...
I know I've been paying attention around here.
I know who's prepping, and I'm going to go get their stuff.
If you think I'm going to watch my family starve, uh-uh.
I'm going to go get their stuff because I know they got the goods.
Okay?
And nobody talks about that.
Nobody talks about the fact that you're going to have this situation where, you know, There will really be a fight for survival.
That's when violence actually increases exponentially.
You've got to keep killing each other for a meal.
On top of that, just to add real quick, Greg, the people who have the food usually have more training in firearms proficiency.
So...
One of the things that I learned after living in Ecuador, and I'm not going to go into details of what I experienced there, but I started doing major training with Special Forces guys over the last decade, thousands of hours.
Every weapon system that you could pick up that's legal for a civilian to own, I can pick it up and run it.
And by the way, that's one of the great things about being in Texas.
It's like, it's all legal, you know?
So we got to just use everything and learn everything.
And I got to tell you, I've also helped train people in firearms.
The difference in proficiency between a beginner and someone like me who has 5,000 hours of training, it's night and day.
There's no contest.
Somebody who doesn't know what they're doing Comes at you trying to take your food versus someone who's like a Navy SEAL or even just a US Marine.
There's no contest.
Well, what I'm getting at is the mentality, though.
And that may be true.
And you're going to have a lot of people that go, I have to make the attempt.
They're not even going to be thinking about the fact, well, this guy's trained and I don't know the first thing about how to use this revolver.
Okay.
So there's this mentality of I'm not going to worry about it because I know somebody else who's got – and I'll just go get his stuff.
And what happened is that after about an hour of this, Art Bell was like – You could tell he didn't want to take the next phone call.
It was the only time in the many, many years I used to listen to that program, Coast to Coast, where you could tell he probably was looking at his producer on the other side of the glass going, if you ever put me in a situation like this again, I will strangle you myself.
Right.
But what, more calls like that kept coming in?
Oh my God!
Yes, it was three hours of, and the majority of those calls were in some way, I know where I can go, I know where I can get goods, I know who's, you know, I know who is storing.
This is around, I don't know, I'm thinking around April 10th, 2005.
You know, they've got them all dated and categorized and everything else.
But yeah, we're always talking about James Howard Kundler's book, The Long Emergency.
So it's going to be a very, very wild ride, and when you combine the things that we talked earlier about this, Christopher is documenting on Ice Age Farmer, and you combine that with their, as George Green used to tell me, they are itching.
They can't wait.
They're itching to get World War III started.
They just can't.
They're salivating over it.
They just love it, the whole idea of all the bloodless.
They're not, you know...
What is it that David Icke says?
They're not human.
The people behind it, really.
I mean, if you want to think of it metaphorically, that's fine.
I don't care.
But they're really not human.
They have no compassion, no sympathy.
They feel disgust even talking about ordinary human beings.
Unfortunately, that's who rules the world.
Something has really shifted because of COVID. And by the way, we're almost out of time, but I've got to add this.
Interviewing even complementary medicine doctors now, who five years ago never would have said things like, oh, this is a depopulation agenda.
If you said depopulation five years ago, you were immediately labeled a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Now, it's being widely talked about by...
Sort of like people who used to be mainstream doctors and naturopaths and so on.
I mean, COVID has changed everything where people now see more and more that there is a war against humanity, that there is a global extermination agenda.
It's not a fringe idea anymore.
People are getting it.
We are targeted.
Well, you know, I wrote a book.
My 2018 book is called Living on the Precipice.
The supremacy of fake, and I talk a lot about near-term extinction.
There's these events, this coalescing of events that looks like the goal is to put homo sapiens, make them extinct, get rid of them, get rid of all the humans.
Yes.
I've talked about that extensively, and I know a lot of people don't want to believe this.
They don't want to face something that's that stark.
Stare it in the face, but you have to.
No, there's this incredible self-denialism, and people would prefer to live in the artificial matrix reality that's been constructed for them by the fake news media and the fake vaccine science and the fake culture.
But in order to believe that artificial reality, you have to believe all their fakery, like men can get pregnant and there are 98 genders or whatever.
And it's like, no, you're living in a made-up fake world.
But you have a real physical body.
You're going to have to eat.
Or you're going to die.
And they're like, no, I'm just going to choose not to die.
And they're like, guess what?
You know?
I mean, maybe there's some guru in India who can live off of sunlight, but you're not that guru.
You know what I mean?
You're going to have to eat sooner or later.
Yeah.
Well...
I just tell people, you know, you better, more than anything, you better prepare for this.
You better prepare for it.
You know, Edgar Cayce, the great psychic, And healer of the mid-20th century was what stands, when things really get bad, because he described earth changes and all these other horrific things, tell me, tell me, where's the best place to move?
Where should I live?
And Edgar Cayce replied, in the end, in the end, it won't be as important where you live as how you live.
That's right.
Well, that's a very sobering wrap-up to this conversation, and I can already tell our audience wants us to talk again soon, because there's so much more to this.
We barely scratched the surface, frankly.
We're not going to be able to have these conversations much longer, either.
We should relish this time.
We should have it in our mind that this is a special time when we have some kind of I'm going to call it semi-freedom of speech, semi-ability to communicate, because the trend line for this, again, this kind of linear regression curve, if you follow it, it gets...
Are you aware that one of the best-selling books on Amazon right now is this book written in 1948, George Orwell's 1984.
There's a revival of it.
It's becoming a best-seller again here after whatever it is, 70-something years.
People are paying attention to this because the world, this dystopian world that George Orwell described, we're headed for it, like a freight train.
We're headed for that incredibly, incredibly dystopian world where life hardly seems worth living.
There's a book in the Bible, I think it was Jeremiah or Ezekiel, I can't even remember now.
There will come a time when men will be envious of the dead.
You have to ask yourself, what would life have to be like where, excuse me, where life is so bad that you envy the dead?
Yeah, it's not hard to see.
It's certainly in Joe Biden's mind to take us there.
Well, he's already the living dead, so he's already accomplished that.
Our country's being run by a zombie.
It's going to get worse.
But look, Greg, we're going to have to do this again.
This has been truly fascinating and probably quite horrifying as well, but we're We're digging into issues that are very important.
I want to tell people, visit your website, HerbHealers.com, to check out some of what you have to offer as an herbalist, and also encourage everybody, share this video wherever you can, get the message out, and people, get prepared for what's coming because what Greg just shared with us This is absolutely spot on.
It's going to get way worse.
I've said the same thing in my podcast.
We're going to go through hell for the next several years, and not everybody's going to survive it.
In fact, relatively few will survive it.
So thank you, Greg, for sharing your thoughts with us today.
Thank you for having me, Mike.
It was a pleasure.
It's an honor to have you on.
We'll do it again.
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