Interview: Charlene Bollinger responds to malicious doxxing attack by CNN's Drew Griffin
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- All right, welcome everyone to Brighton Conversations.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighttown.com.
Today we have a very special guest who is not allowed on any other platform.
Not allowed even on conservative news shows recently.
For reasons that are about to become apparent, she's going to tell you her story about what's happening.
It's Charlene Bollinger, and she and Ty are the wonderful couple behind the truth about cancer that has helped, I believe, save Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of lives around the world.
People who have been educated that they can heal themselves without committing chemotherapy, suicide.
So they're wonderful people.
They have helped so many around the world, and yet they were smeared by a really vicious, lying hit piece from CNN. And she's going to tell you all about that and how...
It's journal-terrorism.
I mean, CNN has become a bunch of terrorists.
And they've done some horrible things to Charlene Bollinger.
She's here to tell us about that and also maybe some solutions about what we can do to fight back against the malicious censorship and smears.
So Charlene, it's always a pleasure to have you on.
Thank you so much for joining me today.
Yeah, thanks, Mike, for having me on the show and giving me an opportunity when others just want to speak.
Yeah, that's shocking.
I mean, share with our audience what you experience and how you're even being censored by conservative media at this point.
Yeah, well, for the viewers that don't know me, as Mike said, I'm Charlene Bollinger with The Truth About Cancer, The Truth About Vaccines Films.
We also have the United Medical Freedom Super PAC where we've been running events, fighting for medical freedom and trying to find candidates To run for government to vote for that are for medical freedom against forced vaccinations and forced chemotherapy and all of those things that we are against.
If you want to take chemotherapy, take it at your own risk.
We're not going to stop you from any choice as long as it's your choice and as long as you've been informed.
And so that's what we're fighting for.
That's what we do.
So we had an event, the Health Freedom Stage at the Capitol on January 6th, and we had speakers like Del Bigtree, Kevin Jenkins, a lot of pretty well-known people in the health space.
And we felt like it was going really well.
And we went to the Trump Hotel that night.
We were so happy hanging out with Patriots, feeling like we did a great thing.
We didn't know about the violence that was happening until the next day, and they started covering it, and then they started demonizing everyone.
And some of these people, like Mickey Willis, he spoke on our stage from Plandemic.
Mike, you know Mickey.
And he just, he went to the Capitol, came back.
He was in tears.
He said, it's beautiful to see Patriots.
Standing for freedom.
And we felt like we were doing a good thing.
It was peaceful.
We weren't hurting anybody.
But they took the narrative and they lied.
And you've covered what's really going on.
So I think your audience is pretty well aware of the fact that that was the Antifa, BLM, and agitators.
And there were people opening the doors.
So it's not what the mainstream media is saying.
All that, just setting the stage to let the viewer know...
What I did that day and then what CNN just did.
So CNN, I heard on February 4th from my customer service team midday that CNN wanted to talk to me because they were going to cover some things about us that we did on January 6th.
I didn't even have time to get in touch with CNN. They didn't reach out to us until the morning of February 4th, I think late February 3rd, our customer service team.
They're sleeping.
So I didn't even get the communication until an hour before it aired.
And I got a letter from Drew Griffin, which is the hack that did this to us on February 6.
So I didn't even have an opportunity to correspond with them.
They had already obviously packaged the story.
It was a hit piece on you and the people who spoke there.
In other words, they weren't acting in good faith by contacting you in the first place.
They didn't really want to hear your side of the story.
It was just going to be a hit piece.
That's the way they operate.
Absolutely, Mike.
They wanted to say, which they did, at the end of their hack hit, oh, we tried multiple times to get a hold of the Bollingers, but they just didn't respond.
Well, we didn't respond because we didn't even know.
So yeah, that was preempted.
And so they rolled out this piece, and it's hard to even watch it because it was just nothing but lies.
They lied about us.
They even accused us of having the audacity to make a living.
They showed our house.
They mapped it, Google Map, into where our house is located.
And then they showed our social media pages, you know, daring people to attack us on our social media, to attack us at our house.
We've got four children.
This is such a low-level attack.
So wait a minute, wait, before you go on, just to clarify, so CNN broadcasts your house and a Google Maps location, and then it seems like they are then inciting their left-wing mob to come physically attack you and your children in your home, is what it sounds like.
I mean, isn't CNN inciting violence and doing the very things that they falsely claim President Trump did on the 6th?
Absolutely.
They are.
They're daring people to come after us because they painted us with such an ugly, untruthful brush that if you didn't know us, you would think we were bad people.
Now, Mike, we have not lost one of our people because our people know what we do and they know that we care about them.
And it works out to our benefit in that the new people that haven't heard, if they Google us and find us, they can find life and solutions, which is what we want.
But yes, CNN is inciting violence against us, which in my estimation, it's breaking the law.
You shouldn't be allowed to do that and get away with it.
Now, a lot of people have attacked us on Twitter and on Facebook and on Telegram.
And not a lot of people on Telegram, but mostly on Facebook and Twitter, these attacks are happening.
They say they want us to burn in hell.
And I mean, it's just like, I can't even believe this stuff is really happening.
Well, so wait a second.
What was the name of the CNN person, Drew something?
Drew Griffin.
Okay, so let's imagine that this situation were flipped.
Let's suppose that you put out a video that had Drew Griffin's home address, picture of his home, Google Maps location, maybe pictures of his children, if he's got any, I don't know, maybe his social media pages, and you told your group that Drew is the most evil person in the world.
I'm pretty sure if you did that, and I know you wouldn't do that, and I'm not obviously suggesting you do that, this is just a thought experiment, but if you did that, the FBI would be on your door in a minute charging you with terrorism or something, right?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And I guess rightfully so if I did that.
that.
Now he sent us a letter, Mike, and there was a phone number and we blurred the phone number because we don't want to expose anything personal in his personal contact or life about him because though we disagree him and we're very unhappy about this attack and hack, we wouldn't wish violence on him.
But yes, that's what he did to us.
And you know, a lot of our followers on Telegram specifically underneath that post, we posted our rebuttal.
We didn't want to dignify that hit to give a link to it.
But I saw many links to the past hacks that the same reporter and I wouldn't call him a reporter, but the same person did to Sarah Palin back in 2008 where O'Reilly then on Fox News was saying, you you know, we tried to get a hold of this guy.
We tried to set the record straight.
He won't answer our calls.
Well, today, a gal that's helping me with the media coverage of our side of the story has reached out to Drew, and he's blowing her off.
Email me.
They're all blowing us off.
All of the media.
Well, there are people who work for CNN and NBC and the New York Times.
And even Glenn Greenwald has warned about these people and he has named them.
And these people, all they are is character assassination, black ops, smear artists.
This is what they do.
Their boss tells them, oh, go attack the Bollingers, or go attack Joseph Mercola, or go attack me or others, and that's all they do.
Smear pieces, completely fabricated, lie after lie after lie.
But now they're adding in the element of inciting the potential for violence against your home, your family, where you live.
That's a new twist to this.
That I mean, that puts them in the category of journo terrorism, I would say.
Yes, this is this is really bad acting and it's bad for our country, but it's dangerous.
You shouldn't have to live in danger in our country because a group of people don't like you, and they might end up coming to your door and maybe do something to your children.
You know, I'm a mother of four children, and I love these kiddos, and everything we do is for them to give them a better future.
So they're on the other end of the spectrum here, Mike.
These are criminals.
Yes.
Yes, they are criminals.
And it really begs the question, not that it would do any good, but couldn't you file a complaint with the FBI against this journo-terrorist, Drew, to say that you feel threatened by his incitement of violent activity against you?
Yeah, I actually am in touch with some attorneys.
I'm going to be talking to Juan specifically tonight and see what recourse we have, what our best options are.
Because at this point, we wanted to do the media rounds and Tucker Carlson said no.
And the other conservatives on Fox News said no.
And Newsmax has said no.
And CNN, Cuomo and Drew have said no.
And One America News Network, they've also said no.
People think that there's one better than another.
None of them will cover this.
And the person representing me, Mike, has been in media for many years.
She's been on all of these shows.
She's on a first name, first phone number basis from Cuomo to Tucker.
And all of them said no to this.
She said, and this is not like a nothing burger story.
This is a blockbuster dynamite story and no one will pick it up.
She said she's never seen this before.
All right.
So just to be clear, they said no to having you on.
They will not have me on to talk about this story because this is a big no-no in the media.
Wow.
Okay, now I want to delve into that a little bit more, but first I want to mention there are also cyberbullying laws on the books in America and maybe in your state.
What CNN did is a classic definition of cyberbullying or cyberstalking, which is a crime.
It is a federal crime in certain contexts.
And you might want to just pass along to your counsel to pursue that avenue and file appropriate police reports and FBI reports.
Even if the FBI does nothing, file the report to get it on the record because if that person continues to cyber-bully and threaten other people, then you're helping to establish a pattern of what that person is.
I just texted myself that.
That's brilliant.
Brilliant.
And I will do that.
Okay, yeah.
And also, by the way, you have the right to self-defense, and so, you know, you should have firearms.
You don't have to speak about what you have or don't have, but you have the right.
You know we're ready, if we be.
Okay, all right.
Yeah, who knows?
These psychos may start banging on your door one day.
Yeah, good luck with that.
That's all I have to say.
Yeah, well, I've said the same publicly.
I said, you know, if they come to my door, first of all, they've trespassed more than a mile off the road.
And secondly, my door is not bulletproof.
So you better be prepared to take some fire.
You know, I'll just shoot right through the door.
I can replace the door.
That's no problem.
Yeah.
But that's just me being here in Texas.
But let's get back to you.
Sorry about that distraction.
So you're saying the conservative media then even refused to have you on to tell your story.
Why do you think that is?
Why are they doing that?
Yeah, this is really troubling, Mike.
You know, what you do, what Ty and I do, and so many others with us, we're really working hard to make this a better world.
Now, we've been persecuted, we've been smeared, we've been lied about, we've been forsaken by family members, close friends, because they don't understand what we do or why.
And that's okay.
A lot of them have come on board through the years.
Some of them are still, you know, in the mainstream narrative world.
We're a box of lies, and we're never going to stop what we're doing.
But when you have a platform like Fox News or Newsmax or whatever platform that God has given you, and God is the one that gives us our platforms, when you have that type of influence and platform, you know the truth.
You know that vaccines are toxic poison.
People are going to die.
You know that this election has been rigged.
And you've seen the evidence, and you tell someone that has a smoking gun here, a big bomb, and it would be the biggest story out there in the whole wide world right now.
And you say, well, no, I can't cover that because I might lose my job.
Lou Dobbs just lost his job because he was telling too much truth.
He's the highest rating...
Show on that channel, on the Business Fox channel.
They gave him the axe.
He's an example.
Don't touch these subjects.
But the thing is this, if they would all come together and say, you know, I've got to tell the truth.
Tucker, as an example, it's not like he would lose his job and never get work again.
There's a lot of other networks that would pick him up quick because people love him.
But he has chosen.
He's drawn the line in the sand.
And he said, you know, I'm a celebrity.
I've got a status and I've got my job and I'm going to choose that over telling the truth in that area.
But the bottom line is, as a father, and he's a father, he's got to go home and look into the eyes of his children and then he's got to look in the mirror and wonder, what kind of world am I passing down to my children?
But is his conscience seared that he can't think like that?
Because I can't comprehend that, Mike.
How could you not think like that?
Do you think that the reason they're afraid to have you on is because of the fact that you cover the dangers of vaccines?
Is this a vaccine-related issue, or is it an election theft issue, or is it that they don't want to go against CNN's propaganda smears?
Yeah, I think it's a combination of the two biggest issues right now that nobody's really allowed to talk about and you're getting eradicated from social media on.
It's vaccine truth and it's election fraud.
So we're not only covering one, we're covering them both.
Because if you look at the hit...
You see that they're saying, well, they've historically been in the conspiracy theory realm of vaccine.
They're anti-vaxxers.
Now they're hitting the other fringe group, the Stop the Steal, this election fraud conspiracy, which we all know has been debunked and is not true, but they're just going in there to try to get more customers to sell their products and peddle their snake oil.
Well, that's all a pack of lies.
And what they're doing is getting people that don't yet know us to stay away from those anti-vaxxers and stay away from the narrative around the election fraud.
And as long as they can pump out that lie, people listen to the lie.
They won't dig to find out that there has been crime.
Isn't it also, given that CNN is funded in part by pharmaceutical advertising, isn't this action on their part actually an antitrust action?
I mean, doesn't the smack of RICO Act violations racketeering because they're protecting the profits of their corporate sponsors by attacking you, who teach people how to not need as many pharmaceuticals by taking care of their own health?
So, I mean, isn't this really just antitrust, monopolistic Journal-terrorism in combination by CNN. It looks like multiple criminal actions on their part, not just the stalking and the threatening, but antitrust actions as well.
I'm typing that because you're absolutely right.
That's exactly what they're doing.
They are protecting their advertisers.
I mean, if you want to see who somebody's working for, who's paying them?
You know, for us, we've not been funded.
People have literally asked, well, who's funding you?
As if we've got some kind of big pharma or big supplement company, you know, I don't know what they're thinking.
But we fund yourself.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We've made money.
We've worked hard on just our products that we have developed ourselves.
These are life-giving films, and we've met people all over the world, like you said earlier, that are alive.
In many cases, we're sent home to die.
So we've been able to make the films without any donors, no funding.
The people that we serve are the ones that are backing us by supporting us by buying our products, and they love what we do, and we love them, and that's the reason we do what we do.
So it's a two-way street.
And so there's no conflict of interest here.
But they do.
They have a conflict of interest and they should not be allowed.
I think that, aren't we the only country, is there one more country that they put the...
New Zealand.
New Zealand, right?
Yeah.
Is it New Zealand?
Okay.
Yeah.
So this is a massive conflict of interest.
So now doctors, they have patients coming in.
You know, I heard about AstraZeneca.
I think that might help me.
And so they're like, oh yeah, sure.
Let me write the script.
You're describing a phenomenon that a lot of people may not be aware of.
Let me bring in something that will confirm this.
Before Monsanto was purchased by Bayer, Monsanto ran a black ops smear machine.
It was a secret unit within the Monsanto company.
They had a list of journalists that they would just work to destroy and smear.
I was on that list.
And they spent millions of dollars a year just to attack myself and one other person.
Their entire budget was just to smear, smear, smear, defame, blacklist, everything.
And that's what they did.
And when Bayer purchased Monsanto, Bayer was doing an internal restructuring and found out about this whole operation and publicly admitted it and shut it down.
And this is why today, like, Bayer doesn't attack me directly.
I mean, we differ on issues, but, you know, Bayer didn't do what, they didn't continue what Monsanto was doing.
But Big Pharma took that Monsanto model and they ran with it.
Big Pharma companies Have smear teams, black ops teams, and that's who's targeting you.
And so they probably called Drew at CNN and said, oh, here's your next assignment.
Here's your next hit piece.
Do this well and you'll get whatever, some benefit, some kickback or something.
Who knows?
That's probably what happened.
Wow, that is, you know, Mike, that's why I'm speechless.
I'm actually, I did not know that, that they attacked you specifically with that much money and that much power.
I see that though.
Everything we've researched, that's not surprising, but it is a wow and a shock.
And I think that's exactly what's going on here because this is very well organized.
And for whatever reason, they singled me out.
Yes, yes.
Clearly, Mike, we're making a difference.
I mean, not only in our films, but now with the political action committee and working with people to expose what's really going on and working very hard to get medical freedom candidates, that's not what they want.
They want to force their drugs on us.
Yes, absolutely.
And the other thing that CNN accomplishes with that is that, you know, Wikipedia will cite CNN as a credible source, but they won't even allow, I don't think they even allow Fox News as a source anymore on Wikipedia.
So then, and they've done this to Mike Lindell, you know, and they've done this to Lin Wood and so many other people, basically everybody, that Wikipedia just becomes a giant smear machine.
And then they hide behind section 230 by saying, oh, we're not publishing that content.
That's publicly aggregated content or open source public content.
And they hide behind 230 and then smear you.
But then if you try to put truth on Wikipedia, they delete it and say, that's not allowed.
That's not from a credible source.
So that's the game they play also of how to continue the smear.
We were on Wikipedia many years ago and they took us off.
And they won't let us back onto Wikipedia.
So you can't find anything positive.
But then they've got their smear pieces.
They've got their fake Facebook pages and fake articles.
All the social media, Google and the mainstream media, it's rigged.
It's rigged.
There's got to be a solution.
And we've talked about these solutions together.
Yeah.
Well, let's talk about some of that.
And also, you're a very spiritual person, and so you have some really interesting context about this.
What do you think this says about society when truth-tellers such as you, who are saving lives and empowering people with knowledge about health wisdom...
You are demonized, but then the most evil, toxic corporations, big pharma vaccines, they are celebrated as the messiah almost in society.
What does that say to you about where we are in human civilization?
What chapter are we looking at right now?
Well, that's a great question.
And you and I have talked offline a lot about the Lord, the Bible, the Word, and historically where we've been, nations.
Nations, they rise and then they fall.
And the success and the abundance of a nation is really based on their relationship as a whole to the Lord Jesus Christ.
And here in America, the whole fabric and foundation of America was really founded on the principles of the Bible.
And we've got the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration, those were all written In congruency to the word of God, really exalting God as our savior and our anchor and the law of God is really the law that we follow.
So here in the nation, we can see such a spiritual warfare happening right now and that these dark powers and evil forces have gotten a hold and control of the media.
And so their narrative is antichrist in every conceivable way.
Abortion is exalted as heroism.
You're a hero if you go and get an abortion.
There are women that we've seen that brag about, oh, I had my 10th abortion.
I'm so proud and I'll have another one when I'm ready or when I need one.
And I'm just shaking my head saying, I can't even believe this.
But when you stand for life, you're demonized in the same media.
So it's the media and it's the education system.
They're getting our kids from the time that they're in kindergarten.
I was just seeing an article the other day where they're teaching kindergarten kids about...
Thank you.
And I was just concerned about the crafts and coloring and playing with the kids.
I didn't even know what those things were.
So we're perverting the youngest of our culture and children, and we're steeping them in this filth so that by the time they're adults, they accept whatever the state throws at them.
And the state is serving a darker power with a darker agenda.
But people forget that God is the winner here.
We know the end of the story.
So I think that things are gonna go one of two ways, Mike.
Either there are forces from the hand of God that really are working behind the scenes, because we don't know the intricacies of what's really going on, but God does.
He's ordained it from eternity past.
So either these forces will reveal the voter fraud, will reveal some of the dark things that are going on, and the perpetrators of these crimes will face justice here on Earth.
And we can restore America back to the foundations and principles of the Bible, and we can honor God, and then God can bless us.
Because historically, as different nations, the nation of Israel, they would turn their back from God, so God would hand them over to their enemies, And then they would say, oh my goodness, what happened?
God help us.
If they truly repented, God would hear them, and he would forgive them, and he would heal them.
And this happens time and again.
So we're in the crossroads.
We're right there.
Neither is a nation.
God will forgive us, and he'll restore us, but he's got to eradicate this evil because it's that bad.
But Mike, if that doesn't happen...
And if we're close to, because we know the end of the story, Jesus is coming again, and right before he does, it's going to get a little bit dark, and it's going to get very difficult.
But for the believer, our foundation is the Lord himself, and he will give us grace to endure.
I just encourage everybody watching to open your Bible, and I would recommend reading the entire New Testament from Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
On through to Revelation.
And then read the Old Testament.
And as you read, pray that God would reveal Himself and He's faithful.
He will.
But also, get your life in order.
Get your house in order.
And if difficult times are coming, there's practical things that you can do.
And if you're a regular listener of Mike Adams, oh my goodness, there's no better teacher we have than Mike.
He lays it out on how we can be prepared with food and water and medicine and so forth.
And practical things to stay safe.
Okay, well thank you for the plug.
I'm humbled by that.
I'm sure there are lots of better teachers than me, but I'm just trying to share what I know.
But getting back to what you said, you said a lot there.
It's really crucial.
You have just affirmed.
That you are a person of God who will be judged in a positive way by God because you are being attacked by demonic entities.
So the fact that Demon Drew over at CNN is attacking you is actually kind of some of the best news that you could hear because it's like, this is...
Absolute proof that I'm a person of God and not a Luciferian person.
See?
And by the way, God doesn't believe Wikipedia.
God knows everything.
God knows that they're lying.
God knows who the demon people are.
God knows who's telling the truth, who has the intention of healing and empowering people and saving lives.
God knows all of that.
And whether or not we're judged...
Whatever happens in this world, we know that ultimately...
I mean, we know...
I can say two things right now.
You, Charlene, will be rewarded in heaven to live with God and other spiritual people and Christians for eternity.
And Drew, his dark soul, which we must have pity on, will burn in hell for eternity with untold suffering that even I can't wish on anybody.
And those are two absolutely true facts.
Yeah, this is really a clash between the forces of good and the forces of evil.
And all we can do with Drew right now, because God has given us eyes to see and a heart that beats for him, all rooted in Christ, our God.
I put in Christ holy and complete for my destiny in eternity.
And we can just pray the same for Drew, that God would have pity on him, have mercy on him as Jesus hanging at the cross.
He said, Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.
Drew is deceived.
Our real enemy is the devil.
And we can pray for God.
Who knows what God would do if God would touch his heart and save his soul and radically transform him.
God is able to do exceedingly abundantly beyond all that we can even ask or think.
And we pray that's the case.
But if he dies in the state that he's in today, his eternal place that he spends forever in is not going to be pretty.
The Bible colorfully...
It spells out what it's going to be.
It's hell, eternal punishment, damnation, fire, and gnashing of teeth.
And that's not something that we wish on anyone.
I have had a lot of comments in the last couple days saying, I hope you burn in hell.
Well, I can't reciprocate that because that's horrendous.
Right.
So you're right.
This is a spiritual warfare.
Yes.
So let's practice that right now.
If you don't mind me even challenging you here on the spot, if you were to offer a prayer to Drew at CNN, what would that prayer be?
What would that sound like?
I think that the biggest thing, if I could talk to him, because honestly, when I got that letter in the mail and it had his handwritten note and his name, I knew that he wrote that.
My first inclination was to call him and to ask him, why did you do this?
But beyond the why, now it's between him and God.
We will defend our ministry and we will defend the people we serve.
But with Drew personally, spiritually, I would just exhort and encourage Drew to repent and to look to Christ.
He is mighty and good to save.
And I know that with Drew and his heart, he must be carrying...
Such a heavy weight.
To be doing the things that he's doing, God has given all of us a conscience, and we may have a seared conscience from time to time.
We know that David did.
David, the man after God's own heart, he looked at a woman, he lusted after her, Bathsheba.
So he took her, he slept with her, she became pregnant.
He tried to cover it up, get Uriah, go home to your wife.
And he wouldn't.
So he had Uriah killed.
So he committed adultery.
He killed the guy that was the husband.
And for nine months, he was getting hard in his sin and his heart was hard.
And he didn't realize it.
And then he was confronted with Nathan.
He realized, oh my goodness, what have I done?
And he repented and God forgave him and God restored him.
And that beautiful prayer is in Psalm 51.
And in that prayer, David says, restore to me the joy of my salvation.
Because when we blow it, he said, my bones were rotting away.
Drew, if you can even hear me now, I would say, I know you're suffering.
I know what you're doing is causing you pain.
I would encourage you to look to Christ.
And to ask for His help.
Because He is mighty.
He is bigger than any bad or wrong thing that you've done.
And if you turn to Him, you truly turn to Him, He is able and will not only forgive you, but restore to your heart and to your life a joy that you can't even begin to imagine right now.
So my prayer for you is eternal salvation.
Well said.
And see, we never know when these individuals are right at that tipping point in their own mind or their own heart.
Because, as you can imagine, being a journo hitman is something that probably weighs pretty heavily on people.
Even if that's what they've done for a few years, maybe they reach a breaking point.
And it comes from...
A moment like this where you, a target of his attacks, is offering him prayers for his own awakening and healing.
You never know.
You never know when people are going to wake up and suddenly embrace the Lord and embrace what they're doing and ask for forgiveness, beg for it, and change their lives.
I mean, we have no idea if Drew is at that place, but one day someone will be at that place.
And through this kind of message that you just...
It will reach through to them.
And that will be a moment of healing for humanity.
So, all of you watching, join us in this prayer.
We don't wish any harm upon Drew at CNN or the other journo-terrorist hit people at NBC or New York Times.
In fact, we wish for them to heal and awaken and join us in fighting for humanity instead of against those who are good.
That's the message.
Very well, Stu, Mike.
And thank you for the opportunity.
I was not expecting that question, but what a blessing to be able to express that to the viewers because Drew's not the only one that's hurting.
I would imagine a lot of the viewers are suffering in some way or another, and he is the bomb of Gilead.
No matter the difficulty or suffering, we have healing.
And the blood of Christ that was given to us at the cross, and he's now in heaven beckoning us to come.
And he is worthy, he is good, he is almighty, and that's our source.
I don't know how we could have made it under so many attacks and so many difficulties, persecution and suppression of information, censorship, people that we love forsaking us and hurting us, and then these hit pieces after hit pieces.
It's because God has called us, and he's equipped us, and he's given us the ability to do this.
This life is very brief.
It's like a blink of an eye compared to eternity.
And we're not just working for this life, but we are working for eternity.
And we want to bring as many people with us as we can.
We have to remember that our real enemy is the devil.
People are pawns, and they've been deceived.
A lot of people have been deceived, and the devil uses networks like CNN and Fox News.
Guys, sorry to say, there's no difference there.
And the social media platforms and hacks right now like Drew, but Drew can come over to the light side, and that's what we pray for Drew and others out there that are suffering.
Yeah, exactly right.
And also I think that you and most of the viewers also have, I think, an informed expectation that we are in an era of persecution of truth.
And it's kind of like with each one of these attacks on you, God is saying, how strong is your faith?
Because you're going to get hit with this and then another thing and then another thing.
It's like, will you break?
Will you renounce me and join the evil and join the satanic forces on earth just to save your name?
You're being challenged and you are not breaking.
Your faith is steeled or hardened each and every day through all these attacks.
And that's, see, in a sense, I mean, I don't want to misstate this, but in a sense, these are opportunities to strengthen your faith.
And I've realized the same thing about myself too, because I've been attacked for many years, long before you were ever attacked, by the way.
So, you know, welcome to the club.
We're all getting smeared now.
But there are things that we can take from this for personal development.
Yes, absolutely.
I mean, you look at Joseph in the Bible.
His own brothers threw him in a pit.
They wanted to kill him.
They ended up selling him as a slave.
And then he was so good and obviously appealing that Potiphar's wife wanted to sleep with him.
And he's like, no, I can't.
The masterpiece.
Trust me and I can't do this and sin against God.
So she falsely accuses him of rape and he throws him in a dungeon.
But God was only doing that to equip him and prepare him for the humble and beautiful service to be number two in the whole wide world beside Pharaoh to deliver the entire world preparing for the famine and being able to feed so many people that otherwise would have died.
Mike, that's where we are.
We are preparing for whatever is coming and we're trying to help people understand where we are Don't get the vaccine.
Here's why.
And you need to have food and water.
And so all these different things that we put out there so that when the very dark days happen, they're ready and they don't have to die.
They can live through it.
That's right.
That's right.
And also, it's a very important point in all of this because I share your conclusion that many people will die because of the genocidal anti-human depopulation agenda that's running.
And I don't think we can stop it, by the way.
I think the genocidal maniacs that run our world will succeed in killing even billions of people.
But as that happens...
We will be able to know in our own hearts that we never wished a day of suffering upon any of those people.
We wished for them to survive and to grow, to be aware, and to be, well, awakened to what's going on.
So it's not like we sit around saying, oh, those people should die, they deserve to die, and then when they do die, we're like, yes!
No, that doesn't happen at all.
You know, it's like we tried, we worked the best we could to enlighten them.
They weren't ready to hear that.
They're going to be killed by the globalists and then God will judge them.
So we've done the best that we can do and saved as many people as we can.
Yes, absolutely.
And the most important thing that we can share is the gospel because we don't want you to die.
We want you to live a ripe old age to enjoy your children, grandchildren, and Lord willing, great grandchildren.
But even if you live to be 120 years old and you die and you perish, that's not what we We want you to place your trust in Christ so that we can spend forever, not for us, but so that you can spend forever in a beautiful place of perfect and utter bliss where every moment is better than the last with our Lord and Savior Jesus.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And this, what you just said, it speaks to the true character of who you are.
And so anyone watching this or anyone who's familiar with your work knows that that CNN hit piece against you was filled with malicious lies.
They know it automatically.
So...
I would say, I mean, number one, thank you for coming on to share this story and share this personal process that we're all going through here, but have some faith in people.
And I know you haven't lost a single fan or follower because of this, because they see...
They see who you really are, a person of a good heart, of a clear mind who wants to help uplift humanity and is doing so for all the right reasons.
So you have nothing to fear from those who deceive.
Mike, thank you.
I appreciate the opportunity to talk to your viewers.
And you know that Ty and I appreciate everything.
And getting to work along your side for so many years now has been nothing but a joy.
We admire everything you're doing.
Thank you.
Well, I'm a fan of your work as well, and Ty traveled the world and is so dedicated to filming all of this amazing information.
I would encourage our viewers to check it out at thetruthaboutcancer.com.
You're going to get a wealth of information there.
And thank you so much, Charlene, for joining us today and sharing all of this publicly.
Thank you, Mike.
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