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May 4, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Jeffrey Prather interview: Here's what happens after Trump secures VICTORY for America
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Welcome everyone.
This is Brighteon Conversations.
Mike Adams here, the founder of Brighteon.com, the YouTube alternative for free speech.
Today, we have a guest that's been incredibly popular, a high-demand guest.
Jeffrey Prather is his name.
Jeffreyprather.com is his website, and his bio is even too long to get into, but he's been involved with The DIA, the DEA, he knows all kinds of special operations forces, individuals and protocols.
He knows every government acronym that exists, too.
He knows them all.
It's amazing.
Jeffrey, thank you for joining me today.
It's an honor to have you on, sir.
You're welcome.
Thanks for having me back.
Well, thank you.
I mean, you have done extraordinary work.
You do, it seems like a couple of times a week, you do your briefings, your podcasts on jeffreyprather.com.
And they are just, they are filled with such incredible information.
Pull together all this information just to get us started.
Big picture, how do you do this?
Well, I've been an intelligence officer since 1984.
And then I, besides working military intelligence, I ended up working law enforcement intelligence.
And then I worked for the DIA, and now I work in corporate competitive intelligence.
So I've been doing this for a long time and have lots of...
Experience and also lots of contacts.
And because I worked in federal law enforcement, military special operations, and intelligence, I have a lot of contacts and a broader view than most people.
Very few people have worked across the board, but I am still in contact with some of my peers that has done that.
And, you know, lots of people really thank me for what I'm doing, but it's really especially nice when I hear from my peers that they like what I'm doing.
So do you often, when you read about something or you hear tips from one group of sources, then do you bounce that off another source to see if it checks out or is that part of your process?
Oh, definitely.
You've got to have multiple confirmations and look at things from different angles.
My peer at DIA, Tony Schaefer, early on said that the Mueller report should have been examined as Russian disinformation.
You know, set that on.
Of course, they didn't do that, but you've got to be aware of all that.
You've got to be aware of if you're being fed.
I've often seen sources start to run naive agents and special agents because this is a guy's livelihood.
If you don't pay attention to what's going on, they'll start running you.
Yeah, yeah, that's absolutely true.
But all this experience that you have inside the system, people would say, you know, you've worked inside government.
You've been on the side of law enforcement with DEA doing drug busts and so on.
In one of your podcasts, you even talked about how you've been part of teams deployed in vans or RVs during drug busts.
And you talked about, I guess, a trap door in the bottom of the vehicles.
You would come out the bottom.
You know, you have all these details that many people have never heard before, so you carry a lot of credibility, and that's why I think when you say things in your podcasts, like you explain that the FBI is really a part of the cleanup crew to cover up the crimes of the deep state.
If someone other than you had said that, they would be called a conspiracy theorist, right?
When you say it, it's from experience.
You've seen it firsthand.
You know that that's happening.
So thank you for being so transparent about how you're explaining how the system works.
You're welcome.
I mean, everybody does that stuff.
When I worked in Nogales, you'd have illegals and drug mules coming up out of the sewers.
There's a huge corridor I've been in many times underneath Nogales, Arizona and Nogales, Sonora.
And I've worked probably a half a dozen tunnels.
I think the last one I worked was coming out of a church next to a McDonald's.
So it's very common to call it a trap.
And it's very typical of how you store drugs because you seal the drugs in so the canines can't smell them.
So that's part of chop shops.
For a trap to work, you have to turn on the ignition, then you turn on the radio, turn on the windshield wiper, and then the trap electronically trips.
So it's even very hard to find those kinds of things.
So good guys and bad guys use those as well.
Well, you've seen so much in that world of drug running, and I believe you've spoken about Operation Fast and Furious also, the Eric Holder-Barack Obama operation to try to put, well, really to try to take down the Second Amendment, I think, by putting guns in the hands of drug runners, hoping that those would cause violence.
What do you, I mean, do you want to share any thoughts with our audience about Fast and Furious and what that taught you?
Sure.
I mean, that's how I went from hero to zero with the DEA. I was a senior special investigator at GS-13 as a journeyman.
And, you know, I was a senior guy.
I'd worked a lot of cases.
I had seized 2,000 pounds of cocaine.
That was my biggest cocaine seizure.
10,000 pounds was my biggest marijuana seizure.
And I'd taken off actual whole organizations.
Primary fine instructor.
You know, snow-capped special operator.
So I was working the extradition of Miguel Cato Conteto, brother of Rafael, head of the Similand Cartel, who tortured and murdered our agent, Kiki Camarena.
And the reason that was a sea change, a title change, because when they're imprisoned in Mexico, then it's just a palace.
They leave when they want, they get whatever they want.
But once they were coming here, that would have changed everything.
And so that was the first Mexican cartel extradition.
And as it happened, I just got activated to the DIA because I was a reserve officer for the second Gulf War.
I was activated to the DIA to go to the counterterrorism operational group that they were standing up Because they wanted dual credentialed guys.
They wanted guys who were credentialed as an intelligence officer, and they wanted guys who were credentialed as a special agent.
And my human source, my informant, got kind of left out in the cold, so he went to sue the head of DEA at the time, and so I got called over.
I had a team at the Pentagon.
And I went over and said, no, you can't do that.
Here's the agreement.
The State Department reward of $5 million is separate from what we're paying him.
But I casually mentioned that Michelle Leonhardt and Karen Tandy, who had been DOJ attorneys prior to this and had then subsequently become the administrators for the Drug Enforcement Administration, had basically destroyed my case By making me pay this guy huge amounts, which I wanted to pay him smaller amounts, so he'd be coming back to me every month so I'd have him.
And so he would come and testify.
They had me pay huge amounts, so there's less incentive.
And so it became very clear that they were destroying my case.
I went back to work, didn't think anything about it, and then all of a sudden I was investigated by OPR, Office of Professional Responsibility, which is internal affairs, most people think of it.
And then they targeted me for five years, and they created a false script, they coached witnesses, they perjured documents, and eventually they fired me one year from retirement without ever having a bad evaluation.
In fact, my supervisors in Tucson and New York both gave me outstanding advice.
But what I came to find out, because I was also a special DA liaison to ATF, and Fast and Furious started at ATF. I'm sorry, Fast and Furious started at DEA. A lot of people don't know that.
It was that the DEA actually had struck a deal with the Sinelan cartel.
You can look this up in the Niebla Zambada trial, where DEA agents raised their hands and sworn to earth that they had to deal with the Sinelan cartel to let them run drugs north in exchange for fast and furious guns going south through the ATF. And the whole point of that really was, it took me many years to figure this out, and I had to talk to other whistleblowers.
Vince Cefalo, ATF whistleblower, a friend of mine, hero, John Dotson.
And I know the guys who carried Brian Terry out of the canyon, his body out of the canyon, and I just was on the phone with some of the families there, and I've worked with those families closely through my chaplaincy as well.
But you curtail personal liberty when you begin to curtail personal weaponry.
And so Arizona, sorry, not Texas, but Arizona is the central gun central.
That's a gun site.
Warrior school is another gun school.
So that was the plot that Hillary and Obama had was to begin to curtail personal weaponry to curtail personal liberty.
And that was the beginning of all that.
And eventually I found out, you know, how corrupt the DEA was.
I couldn't believe it at the time.
So one of the questions I wanted to ask you, Jeffrey, from your podcast, you use the term feral cities.
And I think you're often using this in the context of a left-wing uprising against perhaps Trump securing his second term as president.
Can you describe to our audience what you really mean by feral cities and how that situation gets handled?
Well, so one of the great things that Trump did was he killed ISIS. And he killed ISIS by unleashing SOCOM, which I served in, and JSOC. And the doctrine of war that was developed for that was feral cities.
And what we're seeing, we learned about this in Fallujah.
And that is, the enemy would hole up in the cities because overhead imagery was so pervasive now.
LIDAR, you just can't really hide on the countryside, like when you go back to the longest day when the French resistance...
You know, they broadcast, Jean has a long mustache and they come out and they're in the countryside blowing up railroads.
That was the old way of guerrilla warfare.
The new way is the guerrillas go into the cities.
So we saw that in Fallujah.
When we look at what's happening in America, that the Chinese are engaging us in fifth generational unrestricted global warfare, covert warfare, which is what they're doing.
Which is a new form of warfare.
They're bringing their guerrillas and their proxy guerrillas into cities, to hold cities.
And so that's what is happening in Portland.
And the news media won't show it, but sometimes they're waving CCP flags, just like you see Hong Kong and China waving American flags.
And we wave flags in battle so we know where we're at.
We know where the battle lines are.
That's the purpose So these feral cities have been infiltrated and are being held, and all of the business people are fleeing from LA, they're fleeing from New York.
And so that gives them infrastructure to hold.
And that is a covert fifth-generational war invasion.
It would be as if the Chinese were hitting the beaches with their Marines, except they're doing it through this covert war doctrine and controlling those areas.
And so that's what feral cities means.
So then, what America learned in Fallujah and other venues in the Middle East, it seems like if the Insurrection Act is invoked or some sort of domestic deployment of the military is invoked at some point by Trump, then those lessons from the Middle East would be applied domestically against enemy forces in cities like Portland, do you think?
Well, to a limited surgical degree, that is the trick because most of the forces there are American by nationality and birth.
They're not really American.
They're actually working.
You know, we've talked about tracing the monies back, just like the Akamai machines go back to China, all that stuff.
But In Fallujah, it was still third-generational kinetic warfare.
You'd still kick a door, go in, or bring in a drone missile very strategically on there.
And there were plenty of civilian casualties as well.
Somebody just commented on one of my comments that innocents get killed.
That always happens because war is not a good versus a bad choice.
War is a bad choice versus a terrible choice versus an unthinkable choice.
So I can tell as I'm looking at The generals and everybody, and talking to SOCOM soldiers, they still have a real hard time understanding what's going on because they're not really used to fifth-generation warfare.
They're not really used to covert operations.
There's 20 years' worth of experience of special operations combat.
These guys are totally veterans of that.
But this is very different for them, and it's very hard for them to understand.
But I think that there's already very low-profile, covert Special Operations troops engaging on the border, Special Forces.
I think that you saw Special Operations Aviation Regiment Task Force 160.
Supposedly doing training exercises in LA about a year ago.
Those are very surgical operations.
But if President Trump does enact the executive order on foreign election interference, that's what I think it will look like and what it should look like.
It's not going to be tanks in every street.
It's not going to be anything like what people think when they say martial law.
Right, right.
And by the way, the last time we spoke, you expressed confidence that Trump would secure his second term.
Today is January 1st.
It's the new year.
A lot is going to happen in the next five or six days here with the January 6th meeting of Congress and a lot of speculation.
Trump's team says he's going to present some new evidence that no one's heard about yet before Congress.
Do you still maintain confidence that Trump is going to secure a second term?
I do.
And I do because we're in global World War IV. And I am a professional soldier and a warrior, and I don't plan to lose.
And some of us, you know, basic soldiers under the Geneva Convention, at certain times you can surrender.
Nothing wrong with it.
But as you go into Airborne and Ranger and Special Forces, you take additional oaths and you say, nope, we're just never going to surrender.
And guys like me, we're never going to surrender.
I, you know, I did a parachute jump at Fort Bragg at St.
Mary Gliese.
You know, St.
Mary Gliese is where the paratroopers, you know, jumped in and got cut down.
You know, there was a ceremony there every year.
I broke my leg and I got up and walked away.
I wasn't walking fast, but I was walking.
But nobody looked at me and went, wow!
Because that's just what those kind of guys do.
That's the level of commitment.
And Trump has that level of commitment and the backing of that level of commitment, like with General Flynn.
And guys like that.
And so he's just not going to surrender.
And January 6th is not the end point.
January 6th is another waypoint.
You know, that's not inauguration.
That's just another waypoint.
But I do think that he's going to exhaust every other legal means before there is any kind of kinetics involved, as he should.
Yeah, you've said that several times, and I've quoted you saying that, and you've been proven correct.
There wasn't action right before Christmas, as many people thought there might.
But then the question is, at what point is it exhausted?
And also, remember that Trump's attorney, Jenna Ellis, just two days ago began laying out an argument She said the courts, including the highest court, is engaged in dereliction of duty, and they have denied the president the due process that was afforded other presidents or candidates, such as Bush v.
Gore in 2000.
So it sounded to me like Ellis was laying out the argument for Trump to say, we have exhausted every option.
What window of time is that headed toward?
Because January 20th isn't that far away.
I think that...
Giuliani is still working on the legal arguments, but Jenna and Powell, quite a bit, are setting up the parameters to justify the executive order on foreign issues.
Interference in the election.
And to lay that out very clearly, you got to remember, you know, that the Japanese actually wanted to transmit to us their declaration of war right before the attack.
And It was the bureaucrats, the Japanese bureaucrats that screwed it up.
They didn't want to attack by surprise.
They wanted to declare and then attack right after.
And I think the timing is going to be something similar to that.
Plus, you know, everybody has now seen overwhelming video and photographic and testimony and witness evidence of election interference.
Nobody believes That there wasn't an election interference.
Not at all.
So that is, intelligence is preparation of the battlefield and psychological operations preparation of the battlefield.
And mainly this battlefield is the human terrain of psychological operations and informational warfare.
And I think that's what's happening.
Well, and pivotal to all of this, just adding to what you just said, is the potential for D&I Ratcliffe's report on foreign interference in the U.S. election, which everybody recalls that was due on December 18th, but the other intelligence community groups intentionally delayed it so that Ratcliffe couldn't I couldn't send his report to the President, perhaps, but then again, maybe he has already submitted something, it's classified and we don't know about it.
What do you think is happening with Ratcliffe and the DNI and that report that we were supposed to hear about?
Yeah, I did say that we might not hear that by that time, if you recall.
And I believe now it has been submitted.
And I think that they are preparing to act upon that report.
And I think part of that will be the evidence and part of that will be actions.
And another interesting thing about that is now you're seeing the propaganda press, which has been totally bought off by the deep state and by China, start to say, oh yeah, there are these investigations against Biden.
And on my show the other day...
I said, what if Biden dies?
There's articles out.
So they're already preparing the exit plan, and that's a mistake.
They're preparing that too soon because they won't assassinate him or anything because that would draw attention to it.
He'll just be, and even if he was sick or something, that would still draw national attention to him.
What their plan is, I think, is to let these four federal investigations start to blossom, and then he's going to say, well, my son's involved, I've got to stand by my family, so I'm just going to nobly resign and hand this over to Harris.
That, I think, is their plan.
But while that's happening, these investigations are also coming forward.
And although the FBI is totally corrupted, I have no faith in them, and the cyber agencies are totally corrupted, there is Department of Defense Criminal Investigative Division, and there are Special Operations Intelligence.
That's why I keep talking about this as fifth-generational World War IV, that it should not be looked upon in a legal way.
Well, it's extraordinary that no court in America has yet heard any of these cases on their merits.
In every single case, it's been dismissed based on standing or on a technicality.
Yeah, the courts have failed, like you just said.
The evidence has to be heard at some point.
How do they expect the American people to have faith in elections if the evidence of fraud is never heard in any court in the land?
It's absurd.
Well, they don't expect it.
I mean, the deep state used to be more subtle, but with new technologies and shows of citizen journalism, alternative truth that you and I both do, and you've been doing it a lot longer than I, we have these alternative means that can't silence the public when it was just three major news sources.
Back in the day, Walter Cronkite could say, oh yeah, the Tet Offensive was a complete success for the North Vietnamese.
But it wasn't.
It was a total failure.
They can't do that anymore.
But it's very crude what they have done because it's very obvious to everyone.
And the problem when you're fighting an insurgency, this is an insurgency in America, is you have to hold the population.
You have to have the population behind you.
Obama is a shadow government, but he does not hold the population.
And so even if Biden is certified, he can't hold this, and he doesn't intend to hold it.
He intends to hand it off to Harris, and we're already seeing signs of that.
But that doesn't work out well for them either.
Because if Trump laid out, and the DNI laid out this report right now, it would immediately be censored by big tech, it would immediately be countered by big media, and they would have time to do that.
So the timing of all of this is very crucial.
And I think Trump is going to say, hey, I tried every legal mean.
You saw, and this is still a legal means.
You know, the executive order was passed by Obama.
So he can say, this is Obama, you know, passed this.
Which EO are you referring to?
On foreign election interference, I believe, was passed under Obama.
I thought that was in 2018, that one.
Right.
Well, maybe you're right.
I'm not sure.
I thought it was passed by Obama and strengthened.
I think it was strengthened by Trump in 2020.
Maybe so.
Yeah, maybe that's the case.
I know the NDAA for sure was signed by Obama, I think pretty early on, 2012 or thereabouts.
Oh, and by the way, just today the Senate overrode Trump's veto on the NDAA. So that just took place.
Interesting implications there.
And when McConnell says, you know, $600 for Americans and hundreds of millions of dollars going overseas, those are the payoffs, I think, for the foreign election interference.
Just like with Hillary's server, where the payoffs were coming in through the Clinton Foundation and she was given access and it was being intercepted by a Chinese storefront in Fairfax.
Yes.
Just a very sophisticated, overt form of espionage and sabotage.
I want to mention to our viewers, you also have a Patreon account, Jeffrey Prather, on patreon.com.
And there, when people offer support, you have additional documents, quite an extensive collection of documents that you offer there.
So I want to encourage people to visit and support your Patreon page.
Patreon hasn't blacklisted you yet.
Not yet, and YouTube hasn't either.
I'm sort of careful the way I say and phrase things.
It's kind of like zigzagging when you're under fire or three-second rushes.
You're up, you're down.
That's something I pay attention to.
Speaking of that, too, by the way, you continue to serve as a firearms instructor, and you've been teaching firearms for, what, a couple of decades at this point?
I became a federal firearms instructor in 1993, and I've taught everybody and everything, but I still do teach firearms at Warrior School.
Yep, I'm still teaching martial arts.
My dojo's in its...
30th year.
I've been in martial arts since 1967.
So do you teach...
It's a Japanese-oriented martial arts.
Do you teach hand-to-hand work or sword work or katanas?
What are you teaching exactly?
I'm curious.
Well, the Bujinkan, Warrior Spirit School, is an authentic ninjutsu school, which is kind of like an indigenous culture, counter to...
If you think about cowboys and Indians, you think about Samurais and ninjas.
That's the way.
And yeah, I just taught a Tamashigiri, a live sword class, cutting the goza, and been teaching that for a long time.
I've got the Pray Through War Buoy.
Tops produces my...
My knife.
I've taught firearms to everybody, every branch of the military, including the Coast Guard.
I'm sorry to interrupt.
You have a knife that's produced that's your design?
Yeah.
Oh, I'm very much into blades.
Could you tell us where to find that, where to get that knife?
You know, lately it's been sold out, but it's called the Prather War Buoy and Topps Knives makes it.
I do a trainer and I have a DVD and it's really a very unique knife and it's gotten great reviews.
It's been reviewed all over the world and been out and it's great for the military guys.
Love it.
Field guys love it.
Yeah, I've done some movies and TVs and books, but how many guys got their own knife, right?
I know, that's really cool.
So let me ask you then, for a katana sword, in your opinion, what is the best alloy that someone should choose if it's for practical survival use?
Not a trophy piece, but something they might need to use in a survival scenario.
What kind of alloy should they be looking for?
For a katana?
Yeah, katana or like a survival katana?
Well, the katana is special folded steel.
And, you know, I've studied sword in Japan.
I have a 600-year-old sword.
I have a lot of practice katanas.
But the folding process is what makes it really special.
The ha is very hard, where the bohi and the mune are a little more flexible, but they break like anything else.
But there's no sharpen line on there.
The jamon is where the clay tempering happens, and when they dip it in the dark, then it bends, and that's when they say it has spirit When I'm teaching, I'll show how if you draw a katana with the ha, the blade, up.
The reason is if you draw it down, it'll cut its way out.
I always take the saya, the sheath, and tap it and show the little shavings where it's been hitting.
But I'm not a metallurgist.
I wouldn't be able to tell you.
I can tell you that the Prather War Buoy has a softer, I think it's 1080...
'cause you wanna be able to sharpen it on a rock or anything, you don't want a super hard blade that you can't sharpen easily in the field. - Right, right.
And just the philosophy of this also gets into what we're talking about with Trump and possibly a left-wing uprising in America.
If you have a blade that's too rigid and can't adapt to circumstances, it's gonna shatter.
It could be the hardest blade in the world, but it shatters and it's useless.
Even the blade has to give.
It has to be resilient, depending on the circumstances.
And that's true in stopping an uprising, as well as it is in hand-to-hand combat.
Yeah, very true.
My first, I still have my first painting from my teacher, who's the Grand Master, Dr.
Masai Katsumi.
It's okay.
And it says, Flower Heart, Bamboo Spirit.
Have a good open heart, but have a flexible attitude.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah, and you really exemplify that, by the way.
And again, I can't thank you enough.
I'm really honored that you would spend this time with us.
And our audience really loves your information and really honors what you're doing for this country.
I mean, what you're doing just goes beyond patriotism.
You're sticking your neck out here, like many of us are, but you're someone from within the system.
Who's now looking at it from the outside and saying, how do we really reform this?
What needs to change radically so that we get our republic back?
And that's very rare.
It is, but I've never, you know, the DA, they used to say, you can manage your career or you can manage your cases.
You can't do both.
And you've got to have folks that really care about the country.
And, you know, Ezra, Chris Miller at DOD, those guys are the real deal guys.
As is Trump.
And we got to get back to that.
And I'm always trying to challenge people.
And I hear from a lot of my peers that they agree with what I'm saying.
And lots of times they don't want to speak up.
But you've got to speak up.
You've got to stand up and take a stand.
Otherwise, this will get as bad as anything has ever been.
People think it won't ever happen like it did in World War II or anything, but that's not true at all.
Human nature hasn't changed.
It can get really bad.
You speak about Chris Miller with a great deal of respect.
And he was put into this key position as Secretary of Defense by President Trump after Trump got rid of Mark Esper.
Chris Miller, there's a lot of speculation about something that Chris Miller said publicly to Vice President Pence.
And he was thanking Pence for something like the most complex military operation in the history of the country.
Yes.
I think that, first of all, you have to look at what China has done through the deep state as like the next market garden.
If you remember how complicated market garden was under Eisenhower and how many elements were involved, and we've now seen that.
And I think looking at Wuhan last night where everybody's celebrating and looking at New York City where no one is celebrating shows the overall success of that biological weapon and psychological operations vector and the economic battle that's happened with it and all of that.
And I think that Chris Miller's the perfect guy because he was a horse soldier.
You know, he was a fifth group guy.
And if you haven't read, I'm sure you have, but for your audience, see the movie 12 Strong and read the book Horse Soldiers.
And those two ODAs, Operations Attachment A-teams, 595 and Triple Nickel 555, are legendary.
And now General Mulholland, they're legendary because they changed special operations doctrine.
Nobody thought they could do everything they did.
And the reason they could do it is because they were so isolated.
They couldn't control them.
They were just on their own.
And so there was nobody to stop the enormous ability of a Special Forces A-Team.
And so they were deep behind enemy lines.
No one had a clue how to fight this war.
And they figured it out.
And they did it.
And so in a sense...
Chris Miller is right back where he was.
He's deep behind enemy lines fighting a different kind of war.
And so I think he's the perfect guy to be there.
So you have strong faith in his ability to navigate this situation and make sure that America comes out on top?
I do.
I've been privileged to work with just about every special operations force there is.
And by far, it's not just because I served in special forces, but you see my seventh group plaque up there.
But because special forces, not special operations forces or ranger seals, that's a lot of people, but special forces means Green Berets.
And they are really the most versatile.
They can do anything.
And they're used to being isolated, and they're used to going into an environment and accomplishing very unconventional objectives.
And yeah, I think he's perfect for it.
Then do you think that...
There's going to be a day here where I believe, and apparently you do too, that Trump is confirmed as being the winner of this.
We don't know what day that is.
It might not even be before January 20th.
There are sections of the 12th Amendment that talk about extending it to March 4th.
I was just reading that yesterday, and I was like, wow, it's right here in the amendment.
But that day is coming.
And when that day comes, what do you think...
We see, probably very quickly, but what exactly do we see in terms of the radical left and where does that happen?
I mean, maybe you've already answered some of that with Portland and so on, but what do we see and where does it happen?
Well, so what we're seeing is the audacity and disdain of the deep state.
They don't care.
They're very open about throwing the elections, about giving money overseas, about...
You see all of these left-wing governors and mayors saying, stay in your houses, where they go out and party and...
That is not building a base for them at all.
And you're seeing the people, you saw a restaurant owner in LA blockading a car from a guy shutting down his restaurant who was working for the cities.
So they're not holding the populace.
If you're going to pull off an insurgency, you've got to hold the populace.
Obama is a shadow government.
He put all his guys in there, and they're all up at the top.
But America doesn't support that at all, and they like it less and less.
And you see people not wearing masks, and they're saying, oh, no, we're going to have to wear masks for two years, and we're going to have to wear the mask even though the vaccine, we're going to have to wear the mask even though The latest studies show that maskless populations got sick and died less than masked populations and that there was a 10 million person asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic.
There were no asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic cases in 10 million people, but we still got to do this because it's a population method.
But again, It worked too well.
It didn't just stop the economic engine of America.
It stopped the economic engine of the world.
And what happened to China in the world?
It became a pariah.
The same thing is now happening here in America.
But just to follow up on that, It seems like before the election, you know, a lot of patriots across America and Trump supporters were watching leftists do crazy things in cities like Seattle with Chaz.
They would seize city blocks or in Portland or in other cities across America.
And there was a lot of tolerance to just watch that and, you know...
Here it goes.
But even when these leftists were throwing Molotov cocktails and shining lasers into the eyes of law enforcement, lasers that can cause permanent damage to retinas and so on...
It seems to me, and this is my question, seems to me that the rules of engagement in the minds of the people, regardless of what happens with special forces or the military or whatever Chris Miller does, just in the minds of the people, both the traitors and the patriots, seems like the rules of engagement are going to get escalated spontaneously if this next thing occurs, when Trump secures his victory.
Do you agree with that or disagree?
So I actually reached out to my friends in the marshals and told them to get anti-laser goggles because three marshals had been blinded, and they didn't have them, which shows you that they weren't really prepared.
The guy actually said, how come I've never seen these?
Why don't I have these?
And I'm like, the government never gives you the right stuff.
You've got to get the right stuff.
But then they did get it.
But the important thing here is that the other part of insurgency is insurgents, when you go in, you make strikes to get the existing government to come down so hard on you and so hard on everybody that it further alienates the population from the government.
And so it shifts From the ruling government to the shadow government.
And that is when you start to approach the final phase where you go from unconventional warfare to conventional warfare.
And Trump has been very careful about that.
Where he was a little less careful was when he walked across the street to St.
John's to hold up the Bible.
And you immediately saw the reaction from the DOD guys stepping back and not liking that.
Even though they had burned A nursery in the church.
They were burning where the children would have been.
And the Blackhawk helicopter low.
There's DNA in us that we don't want British soldiers in our homes, seizing our homes and taking our stuff.
And that goes back to our foundations.
So you've got to be very careful about that.
They're doing it to themselves because they see all these hypocritical leftist leaders who are partying, who are not masked, who are getting their hair done, who are dining out, who are making tons of money.
And so the population is actually strengthening against them.
And that's really, really important in the subtleties of unconventional warfare.
That's a really important point.
Yeah, absolutely.
And if I could restate some of that.
So even once Trump secures his second term, the radical left engages in this mass uprising of some form.
Even then, Trump has to be very, very careful not to have tanks in the streets, as you said, and not to overreact and make sure that everything is done with great precision, taking out just certain specific people, but not appearing to be, you know, martial law control of an entire city.
Right.
So intelligence is preparation of the battlefield.
In this case, the main battlefield is human terrain, not physical terrain.
And so when you see a gym owner tear up, the gym owner there that's been on several shows where he tears up the fines on TV, where the guy blocks the...
Restaurant Inspector Inn, where people are defined, that shows now where the population is and who they are behind.
So that when this finally comes, when MacArthur goes back into the Philippines, he goes, strike, rise up, strike.
They've been waiting.
They've been waiting.
And so that is a very important focus for all that to happen.
And people are very sick of it.
If you'd started it too early, you'd be fighting your enemy's fight.
You never want to fight your enemy's fight.
You fight your fight on your terms, on your terrain, on your time frame.
What then should be the role of the people?
Not military, not part of the government, but your average concealed carry holder, maybe an off-duty police officer, maybe a military veteran.
The people across America, what should they be doing in that context?
Well, right now, when they are watching your show, watching my show, and telling, I have people tell me all the time, and I'm telling everybody, you know, about what you're saying, is continue to spread that information to keep in communication, because this distancing, you know, that is to keep us locked down and separated and disconnected.
So keep communicating.
Stay in contact.
Speak out loudly and boldly.
Do not self-censure.
When you self-censure, when you lower your voice, I don't want to say anything bad, now they don't have to do it for you.
And I will never be self-censured.
I've lost too many brothers and sisters in military law enforcement intelligence to ever self-censure.
And then the next thing is, when it comes to illegal unconstitutional acts, I expect my brothers and sisters in law enforcement to stand aside and not engage in that.
And what are you seeing in California and in New York with all of the sheriffs?
Well, first of all, they're downsized, they're ridiculed, they're shot, they're assassinated, they're pelted, they're attacked, and then they're told, hey, enforce these mask mandates and enforce this social distancing.
They're like, hey, we don't have the manpower of that.
We're not going to do that.
We can't do that.
So you're already seeing the counterinsurgency happen in law enforcement.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
And even if Biden were to become president, which again, I don't think that's going to happen, but if he were, then hasn't the left already set the precedent for cities and states to become gun sanctuary cities and gun sanctuary states or Second Amendment sanctuaries?
Because that's what the left did with their sanctuary cities to nullify federal immigration law.
So couldn't the state of Texas just say, hey, we're not going to abide any federal laws?
Actually, this has already been done in some states.
Montana passed a law years ago about, I think, manufacturing firearms in the state.
So wouldn't this just spread even more?
You saw the head, the black rapper head, bring in long guns.
Yeah.
You saw them bring them in.
So now, of course, the left is great at hypocrisy of, well, we can have guns.
You just you can't have guns.
But but that's already happened.
They're not going to be able to stop that.
But just recently.
So those of us who are really into guns, there's a pistol brace, because I am a veteran, which is, I have a shoulder replacement, a hip replacement, two shoulder surgeries, and the ETF was trying to make that shoulder brace illegal.
It went back and forth, and of course they're trying to legislate without legislating, preparing to make veterans criminals.
If you think about it, the pistol braces are popular with everybody, but they're most popular with guys like me, disabled veterans.
And who do you need to worry about?
You need to worry about disabled veterans, old guys.
Beware an old guy in a young man's profession.
So they went back and forth for that on a while, and then they just backed off of it because they saw that wasn't winnable.
That's another informational warfare victory.
Right, but that guidance document that they temporarily revoked, it seems like they could reintroduce that under President Biden if that were to happen.
And also, as I recall, in that document, their attitude was that they wouldn't specify what turns a braced pistol into an SBR, a short-barreled rifle.
Instead, they would just say, we know it when we see it, which means there's no guidance that anybody could be a criminal who owns those.
And I own plenty of those.
You know, I got it.
I mean, gosh, I've got Sig Sauer MCX Virtus pistols with arm braces with a, you know, 10 and a half inch barrel or whatever, you know, just for short range stuff around the ranch.
So what are they going to do?
Turn millions of Americans into criminals overnight and then just selectively enforce it?
Well, and when you turn millions of Americans, then how then what have you done?
You've created armed resistance, is what you've done.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And this isn't China.
There's no place like America, because of our Judeo-Christian native background, where people are just going to submit to that.
That won't work.
America will never be disarmed.
Never.
It can't happen.
And I think that's why they probably backed off that.
They realized, whoa, wait, there's a lot more of them than us, and this ain't going to fly.
And by the way, that's not the attitude of the true heroic ATF friends of mine, like Vince Cefalu, who was an undercover guy, who was a whistleblower, got fired like five times.
I got fired once.
Former Marine, John Dotson.
It's the suits and the leadership that are worthless.
There were some great guys.
Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that because there are patriots inside the ATF, inside the FBI, inside the DEA and so on everywhere you go.
But like you said, those top layer guys tend to become politicians and then they sell out the agenda and they become anti-America.
In some cases.
It's really atrocious.
Okay, one thing I wanted to ask you, and we may differ on this a little bit, which is great because we have different sources and it's good to have diversity of views on things, but I wanted to ask you about this.
Do you think that if Trump secures a second term, and I think you've spoken about this, that you think it's very unlikely that China would try to have troops come into the United States?
And initially I thought that was the case as well, and then the news came out about Chinese troops training in Canada, and I got more intel about China training narco troops in Mexico.
And then you hear about Governor Newsom selling out to China and maybe allowing them to use the Long Beach port if they want to, because he's a communist and so on.
A lot of dots start connecting.
Do you still think it's pretty unlikely that we would ever see an attempt by China to set foot on U.S. soil?
Because we would beat them back quickly, no question about it.
But would they try that, or is that really not in the realm of possibility here?
Well, I reported on the Chinese troops in Canada and I've been on the border.
I have seen ISIS and Chinese troops there and Chinese people.
I talk about the naval formations and how Chinese so-called fishing fleets, which are really electronic espionage fleets pushing out.
And I was just talking to a special operator friend of mine the other day about being in Africa, where I said, hey, have you seen any Chinese?
And he said, no, I haven't seen them, but I know they're funding.
They're fighting proxy wars.
Africa is the new Afghanistan.
So under the current unrestricted warfare doctrine, no, we will not see...
I still say we will not see Chinese uniforms or UN helmets in America.
But...
This has been a very...
China thinks very long-term.
You know, this is Sun Tzu.
If you know yourself, you win half the time.
If you know your enemy, you win half the time.
If you know your enemy and yourself, you win 100% of the time.
The Chinese understand us much better than we understand China.
And that's why they have carefully crafted this unrestricted warfare fifth-generational doctrine.
But if another part of the leadership comes in, because there's lots of upsets happening right now in the Communist Chinese Party, somebody else comes in and gets arrogant and gets sloppy, yeah, they might come in.
They just tried that in India, on the border there with India, and they got into a fight with the Indians, and the Indians beat them.
Well, and also Xi, President Xi there, or Emperor Xi, apparently has a brain aneurysm and is undergoing surgery and, you know, may not survive much longer.
So that throws a massive wild card into the whole equation.
Or that's the story.
Yeah, that's the story, right?
Maybe they're just going to take him out.
It happens everywhere.
We're almost at the end of this conversation today, but any thoughts on Jeffrey Epstein?
Because attorney Lynn Wood had tweeted out that all of a sudden he was certain that Epstein was still alive.
It's an intriguing theory.
Any thoughts on whether you think he is or not or what might happen with that?
Well, my sources said that an MI6 operator came in through the vents and killed him because there was a previous attempt.
But, you know, I've also seen the photos where they're taking him out on this not proper procedure, and you see the differences with the ear and the eye fold.
That's obviously, too, with Gina sitting at the back table there.
You know, people are still saying, no, nothing happened in Germany, but where's Gina?
And where she did show up is she was sitting not at the main table, but at a back table.
Well, if you're playing somebody and you're not used to being the principal, you sit at the back table.
But if you're a principal, you always sit at the front table.
I've sat in the back table.
I've been in the White House Situation Room.
You don't sit at the table.
So that is very obvious.
I'm not even sure that Biden doesn't have a double.
You put that mask on, Because, remember, he couldn't talk for a long time at all, and then all of a sudden he's talking.
You know, doubles have been...
I'm not into the Q crowd that says clone.
Right, not clones.
Doubles have been used forever.
Right, well, even there was...
Kamala was caught with a Kamala double, masked, going to a polling center.
I think Laura Loomer caught her on video, and then she ran away with her driver because it wasn't really Kamala.
Yeah, Hillary, they all have doubles.
That's nothing new.
That's ancient.
Kings forever have done that.
Right.
That's very likely.
Well, if we ended up with a Joe Biden double who couldn't speak in coherent sentences, how would we know the difference?
Yeah, that's true.
Sounds just like him.
Okay.
Any final thoughts then before we wrap this up?
What have I not covered that people need to know?
Well, even if they pull off the final stage of this fifth generational World War IV, even if Biden is installed, that doesn't mean this is over.
That just means we're continuing to fight behind enemy lines.
And that's another great reason to have Chris Miller in there.
I'm sure he won't last long, but he'll have his people in there, just like Ezra kind of popped up Popped up at AG Sessions and then disappeared, then popped up again.
You know, the way I pop up on my podcast, this is far from over, and we will continue to fight.
You know, like Churchill said, fighting the beaches, fighting the streets, fighting the hedges.
Except Churchill said, you know, until the new world, us, comes to rescue the world, and we're going to have to rescue ourselves.
But if it comes to that, we will.
Wow.
True.
And since you mentioned Ezra, Trump put him on the Public Information Declassification Board, made him the chairperson not long ago.
And you previously described as Ezra being maybe the leader of the Q group, for example.
And Q had always promised declassification of documents, it seems, over many years.
Does this mean, in your view, that Ezra is going to oversee some kind of massive declassification drop?
Well, and I outed Ezra as the head of the Q team because Barr, my intelligence said Barr was going to indict him.
And now Ezra's in and Barr's out.
Right.
So that seems to confirm, you know, what I said.
So it doesn't necessarily mean we'll see it, but it's kind of like the notes at the Bush funeral is they'll see it, and then they get choices.
Right.
And that is much more likely to happen than everything gets laid out to us, but they'll see it, and then they have options.
So Trump's team could say, all right, here are these classified documents.
They could approach Biden or whoever and say, we can declassify these if we want, but we don't have to do that if you just concede or something along those lines.
Is that what you're meaning?
Yes.
That stuff happens all the time.
I mean, if you follow the Q stuff, that's the Q storyline that he takes the binders around the world.
I think he starts at Saudi Arabia first, and he's doing a sword dance as the premier guy, and that indicates...
So that goes along with the SCIF being set up on election night for the counterintelligence, for the Kraken stuff that I've talked about a lot, along with Scorecard and Bill Binney and Montgomery from NSA. You know, if Admiral Rogers came to Trump then, then...
Then I think he went to CrowdStrike after that, which is kind of strange, but maybe he's reforming it.
I don't know, but that should be pretty squared away.
Nashville was one of the...
Hypothetically speaking, it's one of nine vacuum stations for doing CONUS-SIGINT, but that doesn't mean it's the only one, and that doesn't mean that they don't have it.
But that HIT clearly means that they didn't have it under control.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
All right.
Well, we're out of time, and I want to thank you so much, Jeffrey.
And folks, be sure to visit Jeffrey's website, jeffreyprather.com, and check out his Patreon page for more detailed documents and information far beyond what we've talked about here.
And again, thank you so much for your patriotism and just your expanded consciousness about all of this.
You're a big picture guy.
And you're on the right side of history and the right side of America.
So thank you for who you are and what you're doing and for joining us today.
I much appreciate it.
Thanks for having me back.
Have a blessed, grateful, and dangerous new year.
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