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April 28, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Dr. Len Saputo urges all conscious human beings to defeat the pure evil that has infiltrated science
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Welcome to Brighton Conversations.
I'm the founder of Brighteon, Mike Adams.
Today we have an extremely important interview with Dr.
Len Saputo, who is, wow, we're going to be talking about today what he calls the hijacking of humanity.
Something has gone terribly wrong with our world.
You can sense it, you can see it, it's crumbling around you, but it's more Welcome to the show, Dr.
Saputo.
It's great to be able to talk with you again.
Mike, it's a privilege to be on the show.
I so much respect the work you're doing.
Thanks for having me.
Well, thank you so much.
And let me give out your website.
It's drsaputo.com, just like it's spelled, all spelled out.
Dr.
D-O-C-T-O-R, Saputo, S-A-P-U-T-O.com.
And give us what town you're in again in California?
In Walnut Creek.
It's about 20 miles east of San Francisco.
Okay.
So you have a lot of patients from all over the state, I would imagine, that come visit you.
I do.
All right, they can find out about your clinic at that website, Dr.
Zaputo?
Yeah, they can.
Okay, fantastic.
All right, let's just jump right into it here, the hijacking of humanity.
You actually sent me some notes before this interview of some points you wanted to cover.
I mean, this is so resonating with my own concerns right now that I'm so glad we have the opportunity to talk about this.
Give us the introduction, the overview.
What do you mean by humanity being hijacked right now?
What's going on?
Well, America, basically, our democracy is being hijacked.
We don't have democracy anymore.
We live in a corporate democracy, perhaps, but it's moving more towards fascism.
Science has been hijacked.
What you see in science is certainly not what you'd like to see, because a lot of it has conflicts of interest that make most of what's published.
It's incorrect.
And then there's a fatal fundamentalism that exists that has to do with, I think, people taking the blue pill.
If those of you who have watched The Matrix, man, that blue pill is really powerful.
And some people have taken two or three of them because we're in trouble.
We've lost our common sense.
They're on a blue pill prescription at the pharmacy.
They're, like, refilling the prescription.
Boy, that steak is juicy.
Yeah, they would definitely approve that one.
But yeah, I didn't mean to interrupt.
Sorry.
No, it's okay.
That's great.
So I see us as needing to wake up and to remember who we are and to respect that we have a responsibility to do what's right and to not just go along with what people say.
You know, one of the reasons why I hesitated in the last interview that you had me on When you start going a little bit deeper is because it was hard for me to be authentic and to be honest and clear about my deep feelings because I was afraid of what people would think.
But as I've thought of that more and more, I decided I'm going to be more like you in that way.
You're as authentic as anybody I know, and I am too.
That's a nice way of saying I've abandoned all pretense of what anybody else thinks about me.
That's exactly right.
But it's freedom.
It's spiritual freedom to say what you mean.
Well, the censorship out there is terrible.
You know what you've been through, and I know what I've seen a lot of people go through, and I see disadvantages of the mainstream people getting across the points that they want to as evil as they are.
Yeah, well, and the way the censorship works is, you know, they'll start by saying something that you might be able to agree with.
Like, oh, well, don't criticize vaccines.
So a lot of mainstream doctors, oh, I won't criticize vaccines.
And then it's like, oh, don't talk about hydroxychloroquine.
You know, oh, I won't talk about that.
And pretty soon it's going to be, you know, you can't disagree with the vaccine industry or Big Pharma or Dr.
Fauci or you're going to lose your license.
You know, it's just like, how far do you go along with the tyranny?
I just say, don't go along with it at all.
Well, that's true.
And I think you're right.
And that's why I'm back.
That's why you invited me back on the show.
It's because I said, I'm done with that.
Now let's just get to what we think is the truth in a clear sort of way.
Because what I'm finding out is it's more difficult to be inauthentic than it is to be authentic.
Because you have to live with yourself.
So you've got to get it out there.
And that's what you and I do.
Well, exactly.
So, let's get right to the hijacking issue, then.
What do you think?
I mean, are we talking about dark, demonic forces here?
What's going on, in your opinion?
What's behind all of this?
Well, I think there's a war that's been going on forever, as long as humanity's been here, as long as the universe has been here.
You can get religious about it and say there's a fallen angel, Lucifer, and there's Jesus.
You can take any kind of perspective you want to about what evil means.
And I think it's people who get pleasure out of doing the wrong thing, out of making life terrible for people, not respecting life, don't know what the golden rule is.
And that's just wrong.
And that's what's happening.
And we're seeing that today in medicine, and we're seeing that in what's happening with this thing with COVID-19, which I agree with you, that's just a symptom.
The deeper stuff, is it the deep state?
Is it galactic forces?
Is it our own government?
And it's a combination of all those things.
How much?
Who can say for sure?
Because you have to use your intuition.
Well, I completely agree that there is an element of humankind that enjoys making other people miserable.
We saw last night, in fact, L.A. Mayor Garcetti.
That's his name, right, Garcetti?
I think so.
He announced that they would now start cutting off the water and the electricity to private homes and businesses that he called non-essential if they did not comply with his, you know, COVID lockdowns.
So wait a second here.
I used to remember when we would talk about, you know, terrorists taking down the power grid.
Now it's your mayor.
Yeah, well, I don't think any of this is, first of all, it's not right.
Second, I don't think it's legal.
It's infringing on our rights as human beings and as American citizens.
And people are, we're going along with it.
It's like we're in a trance.
We need to wake up.
We need to say no to a lot of this and do what's right.
I mean, the whole business with the masks and what they're telling us about the drugs we can and can't use, drugs that have been around for years and years that have been proven to be safe, now all of a sudden they're not safe.
I tried to fill a prescription for hydroxychloroquine for some of my patients, and the pharmacist said, I'm sorry, but we can't give that to you anymore unless you have some kind of disease.
So the pharmacy is now overriding doctors.
That's insane.
You have to lie to be able to get it.
And I think this is probably not even legal to do.
I mean, doctors have used drugs for off-label uses freely.
There's never been anything that's got the way of doctors doing that.
And we all do that.
It's a regular part of our practice because we know what works.
Right.
You know what works.
You know that this molecule might work for this condition, even though perhaps it's not labeled for that.
But there are cases where it does.
Exactly.
It does work.
So if you have the experience of a lot of years of practice and you found something that works for you, you do an outcome experiment.
If it works, you do it again.
If it doesn't work, you try something else.
And if it's safe because it's supposed to be safe because the FDA has already approved it, Although, I have to tell you, a lot of the stuff that they approve isn't safe.
About 20% of the drugs that eventually come out of the FDA are either taken off the market because they're not safe or they put black box warnings on it.
So you have to use your own judgment.
You can't just rely on the FDA for what's safe because they've got ulterior motives.
Yeah, that's putting it politely.
I think Americans are waking up to the fact, and I'll say this in my words, that the Dr.
Fauci, CDC, FDA, WHO cabal, it is a criminal drug cartel.
Let's just say it for what it is.
I agree.
By suppressing hydroxychloroquine research or fabricating fake research to discredit that off-patent drug.
So they're conspiring, they're committing crimes against humanity, they're getting people killed in order to maximize the fear, the lockdowns, the disease, and the vaccine profits.
Oh, that's the big pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for leprechaun Fauci or whatever he is.
I mean, I don't mean to be insulting, but I'm not sure he's all human anymore.
Well, I'm not sure either.
And I don't mind calling him Leprechaun Fauci either.
I mean, the stuff that he's doing is so narcissistic and so much developed to go along with people who are also narcissistic, like Bill Gates, who's got his fingers in just about everything.
And to back this vaccine, when you've got a stake in it, and you're supposed to be the director of the National Institute of Health for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, that's treasonous to me.
I think this man has to be taken down, and I applaud what Trump has done over the last couple of months to first honor him because of his position.
He's been there for a long time, 30, 40 years.
And then to say, this is wrong.
He's doing things that are for his personal gain or for somebody else's personal gain.
This is not what anybody who is a good person would do.
But aren't we witnessing that if we continue to allow big pharma to have total control over our society, control over big tech and speech, control over media, control over education and science publications and institutions, medical schools, everything, if we continue to allow this, big pharma will destroy human civilization.
They will destroy us.
This is what they're doing.
They're off to a good start, and they've got a lot of backup from the CDC, the NIH, and from the World Health Organization.
So there's a whole system of government here that's not supporting the people.
It's supporting private interests, and that's why corporate America has become where the democracy is.
It's for corporations.
It's not for people.
We don't even have a voice anymore unless we do something like what you're doing, and you have to have your own system to do it and spend millions of dollars to make it happen.
This is what they're doing.
That's not democracy.
That's not what our forefathers had in mind when they built this country.
And here we are.
Not only do we have to spend millions of dollars, which we did, to build Brighton, but then we have to endure constant death threats, DDoS attacks, cyber attacks, being stalked, threatened, smeared, lied about, deplatformed, everything you can imagine.
I mean, it's a full-on assault.
People have no idea how bad it is.
Yeah, that's right.
There's the censorship and then there's a conspiracy.
And if you're doing things that are not in the interest of the money people and the power people, you've got a real problem.
And that's what's happened in America.
That's why I say democracy has been hijacked.
Science has been hijacked.
We've been hijacked.
There's no more common sense.
It's been hijacked.
Science has been hijacked.
Let me ask you a question about that.
I've always found it astonishing that how dumb mainstream scientists have become because they've been brainwashed and indoctrinated away from knowledge.
So just let me give a couple examples of that.
Like number one, there are molecules that are natural medicine all around us in plants and tree bark and nutrients and food and these molecules They're very similar to the molecules that are synthesized by drug companies in many cases, like statin drugs, based on, right?
But then these scientists will say, well, the molecules in the drugs work.
The molecules in red yeast rice don't work.
And they're identical.
They're identical!
It's the same molecule!
And they're trying to say that the people who want to put red rice yeast out there are infringing on their patent.
Exactly.
Exactly.
No, but this is how insane it is.
And at the same time, I don't know what your opinion is on the whole climate change issue, but when I see the climate change, people say that carbon dioxide is a pollutant that's going to kill us all.
It's a good thing.
That's what trees breathe.
That's right.
It's a balance, and it's give and take.
So if you build up a little bit more carbon dioxide, then the trees that we've cut down are going to regrow.
They are.
The more CO2 you have in the atmosphere, in fact, the more food crops produce more easily.
It's amazing.
If you want food abundance, you need CO2. But somehow our science establishment has been ripped away from knowledge, and they've been brainwashed to be puppets of globalist corporate agendas that are destructive to humanity.
Well, they've got the money to convince you.
The subliminal suggestions work.
When you really look at the amount of science that's in medicine, it's a joke.
You know, it's been studied by three big groups.
First of all, the Office of Technology Assessment.
Then there was one in the New England Journal of Medicine.
And another one, I think it was in JAMA or something like that.
And what they asked was the question is, how much good science is there in the practice of medicine?
And when I read that, I thought, oh, well, it must be at least 70%.
It turns out the number is like 15%.
Then they looked at the research in medicine and how good is that?
The Office of Technology Assessment said something that I thought was just stunning.
They said it was 1%.
And the reason they say that is because of the conflicts of interest.
I mean, who's publishing an article and for what reason?
The idea is to try and sell something.
Usually, we've got this drug that works.
And then they lie about it.
And they take information and twist it after they spent maybe $500 million on studies and don't want to waste it.
They want their people who are their investors to be able to be happy with what they're doing.
So they lie about what it does.
And they don't have the real thing there.
Now, when your doctor is reading the medical literature, Most of the time, they're reading the abstracts to get an idea of what they're saying.
And occasionally, you're reading a whole article.
But you can't assess an article with just that.
You've got to have the raw data.
And what does it show?
And how do they fudge things to make things change in the borderline cases to make something 5% or 10% more significant than a placebo, which is all you have to do if you want to get a drug approved by the FDA so long as it's safe.
This is criminal.
Yeah, it is criminal.
And in what we saw with that, the faked study that was attacking hydroxychloroquine that was published in the Lancet and the New England Jester of Medicine, as I call it, it was clear that they were more than happy to just fudge the numbers.
And we've seen this also in climate science, again, to bring that up.
Yes, I agree with you, by the way, on that.
Okay, okay.
It's okay if you don't.
I'm just pointing it out.
I'm just pointing out that I do.
They would take global temperature data and then they would just fake it or they would, you know, they would just alter it.
And look what they want to.
Right.
So they approach science with a preconceived conclusion and then they massage the data to fit their conclusion.
And of course that's not science.
That's dogma, I mean fraud, crimes against humanity in this case.
So how do we fix this though?
I know you're a solutions guy.
You're very good at focusing on positive outcomes.
Right now, humanity, people who are aware, they feel really trapped in this system.
How do we get out of it?
Well, we've become complacent.
We've assumed that nothing bad is going to happen to us because we've had a couple of hundred years where the United States has been pretty much looking after us, but we're slowly losing our rights and our privileges.
And unless we stand up and become citizens again, we have to earn our way back.
Grassroots democracy has to come back.
And if we don't stand up to the corporations and don't stand up to the government that's now corrupt, I mean, we're in trouble.
So you can't just take the position that things will work out okay, and you can't look at your personal gains.
I'll give you a little story.
I play pickleball, okay?
A little game that's a bit like tennis now, because at my age, I can't play tennis very well anymore.
And I go out to my pickleball club, and while I'm there, I'm not wearing a mask.
But everybody pretty much else is wearing a mask, and they're saying, where's your mask, Len?
And I'm saying, well, I'm not wearing one, because I don't believe it's right.
And I can give you the reasons for it, but they weren't interested.
They just said, well, what's going to happen is they're going to put chains on the fences and we're not going to be able to play pickleball at all.
I said, so you're putting your pickleball in front of your human rights.
So you've got something to think about here that's a little bit bigger than the little game that you're playing that's recreation.
They kind of got it, but not really.
They're back playing pickleball with their masks on.
Well, there is a game being played, and it's a much bigger, much more treacherous game with the mandates and the lockdowns and coming soon, the mandatory vaccines.
Unfortunately, you're right.
But you practice medicine in a state that is extremely aggressive on pushing vaccine mandates, you know, SB277 and all that.
Oh, it's terrible.
And you can't get around it, or you wind up losing your license.
So what are you going to do then?
In terms of the vaccine for me?
I'm not taking the vaccine.
Are you kidding?
The people that are signing up to be in the study are insane.
They don't understand what's being done.
This vaccine almost can't work.
First of all, they haven't even isolated the virus.
So they got a little piece of RNA that they're going to make a vaccine against, and we don't even know what that piece is.
Then we're going to incorporate that into our bodies, and all the other things that are in the gunk that they're making the vaccine against, they're going to make antibodies too as well.
And it's not just antibodies that you're interested in.
It's the T cells.
It's the cellular response for viruses and cancer that we have to pay attention to.
And then do we even know that the antibodies that are made are going to do anything for immunity?
And then the way they're coming out with the data on this, they're saying, Moderna, just, I can't believe it.
They're saying, this is all turning out good.
We're happy with the results.
And then you look at the results and go, are you kidding me?
When almost everybody's having a symptom from it, and about 20% of the people are worried enough that they're asking their doctors or going to the hospital, There's something very corrupt about this.
It's just being rail-rated through.
And then to make two billion doses?
I think they're making two billion doses before the vaccine's even approved?
What kind of arrogance is that?
Where is the science in this?
Yeah, what does that tell you?
But just a note to our audience, sounds like Dr.
Saputo is not down for having his body's cells hijacked by a protein synthesis Trojan horse.
He must not be allowed to practice medicine ever again.
My goodness.
At my age, I'm not too worried about it.
If the medical board comes after me, they'll be really sorry, because I'm 80 years old now.
I've been around a long time, and I understand how it works.
And if I lose my license, I can still practice the way I practice now, because I don't use drugs much in my practice anyway.
There you go.
It's mostly listening to people caring about them and trying to give them what they actually need.
If you listen long enough, they'll tell you their diagnosis, and if you listen even longer, they'll tell you what they need.
That's true.
Well, what are they telling you about vaccines right now?
Are they saying they're not going to take the COVID vaccine, or are they saying they will?
They're confused.
They believe that Fauci is an angel and that the CDC is accurate.
You know, the doctors are the same way.
You think doctors study vaccines?
You're mistaken.
They do not.
What they have is an opinion that has been handed to them by the CDC. And if you trust the CDC, holy smoke, you've got a lot to learn.
They've got patents on over 100 vaccines themselves.
They're a business.
That's the fox guarding the hen house.
Something's wrong with that.
It really is lack of knowledge that leads people to be in this confused state and also to obey things that are insane.
But isn't this the whole goal of the corporate-run media today, is to, in fact, de-educate people, to isolate them from knowledge, and even the tech giants and their censorship, is to make sure people don't learn anything that might set them free.
I mean, Facebook and Twitter censored Donald Trump's interview with Fox News about hydroxychloroquine.
That's just hilarious.
I don't think that was too smart.
You know, Donald has something of a temper.
Yeah, he's probably making priority number one.
He's probably positioning military artillery units around Facebook right now.
Or something else, that's right.
Yeah, which wouldn't be a bad idea as far as I'm concerned.
I mean, at some point, don't we have to demand our freedom to think, our freedom to speak?
We have to earn it back, okay?
We've given it away.
We fell asleep at the wheel, and we don't see what's happening.
We're not even in a trance.
We're in a coma.
And until we wake up from that, it's just getting worse and worse and worse.
How much further can we go before we have FEMA camps and we have fascism?
It's formal fascism.
We're moving in that direction.
What's in the way of stopping that from progressing?
Well, according to some of my other guests, we're already there.
I mean, there's already FEMA camps, already some people being forced into quarantine, couples being kidnapped from their homes.
I forgot in what state that's happening.
And now, of course, Los Angeles threatening to cut off electricity.
There was a story out of the UK today that the UK government has issued guidelines to the local town councils that they can demolish homes and businesses if they think they're contaminated.
Demolish homes.
Oh my God.
I mean, whoa!
So what?
Someone didn't wash their hands?
Someone has a sniffle?
You bring in a record ball and you just demolish their home?
Well, let's go back to this whole thing and ask the question, how many deaths have we had this year and how many deaths have we had last year?
Is it any different this year than last year?
Not much.
It doesn't warrant all the action that's being taken to try and prevent A pandemic that doesn't really do that much.
Now, I'm not saying it's a good idea that anybody dies, but the problem is we don't have a test that works.
The guy that invented the test, Cary Mullis, the Nobel Prize winner, as you know, he said, please don't use this test to try and diagnose viral illnesses because it doesn't work.
So what do we do?
We don't have another test, so we go back and that's what we're using.
Then we diagnose false positives and false negatives.
People are inconvenienced by it, immensely by that, or the diagnosis is missed.
And where are we?
Then we go ahead and we call everything COVID-19.
And so the numbers you're looking at say that there's 150 or so thousand deaths now.
Well, a lot of those people didn't die from COVID-19.
The vast majority of them, I'd say 75% of them did not.
So what are we talking about?
We don't have any science behind it.
We've got a whole movement that's a conspiracy, not a conspiracy theory, a conspiracy.
And we're not doing anything about it, except standing and saying, well, I better wear my mask or I'll get in trouble.
I'll get a fine.
And it's more important to play pickleball than it is to have my human rights.
These are the kinds of things that are happening.
So who's to blame?
Was Pogo right?
We found the enemy.
Yeah, and he is us.
Well, I tell you what, Bill Gates, I think, is the enemy.
Oh, for sure.
You've seen him squirm when he's asked questions, and it's astonishing.
He was asked a question by a journalist the other day.
He said, well, what about all the side effects that were announced in the Moderna trial?
You know, 80% or even 100% of the people had side effects in the high-dose second-round group.
And instead of Bill Gates saying, oh, well, that's why we should proceed with caution to protect people.
No.
Instead, he said, well, that's why we have to have legal immunity for the vaccine companies.
I mean, those are his priorities.
Yeah, they're going to kill a bunch of people.
Better make sure the vaccine companies don't go broke with lawsuits.
Okay, so we're talking about good and evil.
It's becoming pretty clear who's good and who's evil.
Yeah, it is.
And there's a lot of evil people out there.
There are people that are on your show and some other shows like Dell Bigtree that are doing really good work to get what I think is the truth out there.
And the problem is the public is so brainwashed and so terrified.
If I walk into Whole Foods and I'm going to buy something and I don't have my mask on, I could get stoned before I get out of there.
I don't have any civil rights that say this mask is not doing me much good and there's no need to use it.
And if you have a medical condition, even if you don't, you shouldn't be using it.
Well, you're going to chide me for this, but I've got a comedy piece coming out this weekend introducing the California mask.
It's a full plastic bag over your head.
And it blocks coronavirus from the ears, the nose, the mouth, the eyes, and it has to be mandated.
So the California government will come, put the bag over your head, and in order to achieve compliance, they will hold it there for a few minutes until resistance ceases.
I'm sure the LA mayor, Garcetti, will be all over that one.
Well, you know, it's hard to get through when so much time and money is spent and television is so skewed to just one direction.
Although I have to say, I used to really not like watching Fox News a year or two ago because I thought it was so one-sided, and it just annoyed me, so I didn't watch them.
Now it's the only station I will watch because it's the only place I think I'm getting real news from it on television because they're all saying they have the same sound bites, and they're all negative.
They're all programmed, and you hear it over and over.
Now it's been seven months that we've been listening to this, and it sinks into the brain.
And unconsciously, all the subliminal messages are taking hold.
And until we wake up from what's happened, we're not going to realize that.
If we do wake up from it, it disappears, and it's no longer an issue.
Then we can stand up for our rights with some conviction.
Well, but, okay, a couple of key questions on that, though.
One of the theories is that the American people are already too drugged into zombie land to ever wake up.
And I kind of agree with that theory.
I kind of do, too, but I'm not giving up.
Okay, I'm with you.
Maybe some of us can make it through this, but the masses, they really are drugged to death.
I mean, you've got people now, just the lack of any ability to do anything.
Just in trying to hire people, we found that there's a lack of memory capability in people of all ages today.
They can't remember anything from one day to the next.
I mean, like cognitive function is being, it's almost as if, you know, metaphorically speaking, like aliens came down and ate their brains or something.
You know?
We have to think about that.
That's how crazy it is.
Yeah.
What's going on?
Why are people losing their minds?
I mean, their brain damage is spreading.
And I mean that literally.
People are brain damaged all over the place.
It's about fear.
Fear cuts off your logical reason.
And now we're preoccupied with something that we think is a horrible pandemic, and it's not.
When you look at the death rates, I'm sorry, the death rates don't show that.
And it's not good that people are dying, but it's no different than it was last year or 10 years before that.
So why all of a sudden now?
That should make you think that something's going on at a deeper level that we need to be paying attention to.
And we don't think about that.
We just go along with the fear.
And then we hear it repeated over and over on the news, on CNN and all the other stations that are out there, that you're getting fake news.
Trump is right.
You're not getting news anymore.
You're getting opinions from people that want to sway you, and they'll tell you anything and do anything to try and accomplish that.
Okay, then my next question for you, segwaying from that is, are those people acting on their own, or is there an overpowering dark force of some kind that they are answering to, that they are obedient to?
Are they given marching orders, or are the individuals themselves just individually evil in a decentralized way?
Well, you know, you asked me that question last time and I backed off.
Not this time.
I think you're right.
I think there is a lot going on that's behind the scenes.
And the question is, is it just the deep state?
Is it galactic forces of some kind?
Is it just the government that's doing it?
And while we don't know the answer to that for sure, we know parts of it.
We know that the deep state has a lot to do with it, but who's running the deep state?
And who's pulling the puppet strings on almost everybody who's in a power position?
So you start wondering, are there other entities that are involved here?
Is this a good and evil battle?
It's a galactic thing.
I don't know the answer to that, but my intuition is telling me that's something that concerns me.
And I think most people who believe in a spiritual life or a religious life, I mean, we're always talking about good and evil, so why can't we talk about it in real life?
You go to church on Sunday, and then on Monday you go back to work, and then you can't talk about it anymore.
Something wrong with that.
Right.
I mean, they go to church and they say there's a supernatural being who created everything in the universe.
And then on Monday, they're like, oh, there's no such thing as demons.
But, okay, I was taking notes as you were speaking.
I think you've given us four choices of maybe who's responsible for this.
Demons, aliens, sociopaths, and interdimensional creatures.
So out of those four...
Put the government in there, too.
Well, that would count as interdimensional creatures, I think.
They're from an alternate universe of financial waste or something.
And I've often said that humanity, by recycling all of our sewage and putting the sewage back on our food crops and eating that, that we're killing ourselves.
In fact, I've called humanity a suicide cult because it's so insane.
But...
Out of those four choices, then, any comment on what you think is, or is it more than one?
Of course it is, because it filters down.
The question is, how deep does it go?
I can't answer that question, but my intuition tells me that it's a much bigger thing than just earthly beings.
You know, we've got a cosmos that's enormous.
There are hundreds of billions of galaxies.
You think there's no life on some other places?
I mean, there's got to be a story that has a very important meaning to what's happening there, and we're not privy to it.
Maybe we're just not sophisticated enough.
I think sometimes that maybe we're one of the last places, the Earth is one of the last places that doesn't have artificial intelligence running everything.
Well, maybe we already do, you know?
You know how the news media, they have talking points of what to say every day?
How do we know that that email that sends them the talking points isn't an AI system?
Well, you don't.
It might already be.
Well, I'm sure there's a lot that's programmed into us.
I think we've all swallowed the blue pill to an extent.
Some of us more pills than others.
And we've got a little bit of red pill in us as well.
And so the question is, what are we going to do with that?
And what I see is the answer.
Okay, this is the ultimate answer.
It's on our shoulders.
We are the problem.
POCO was right.
The problem is us.
And until we evolve to a higher level of consciousness where we're interested in doing the right thing, practicing the golden rule, and wanting to do service instead of having money and power, there's no hope.
There's no place to go.
We're screwed, basically.
So it's on our shoulders.
It's not on anybody else's shoulders.
So then, do you believe that we are living in a kind of a testing ground, spiritual, maybe a simulation of some sort, and this is a testing ground, and we're here to figure out who we really are, or to decide what we stand for?
Yeah, I do.
I think that, okay, my thinking is, is that the Creator, whatever you want to call the Creator, Mother Nature, Jesus, it doesn't make any difference.
It's just the Creator The Creator needs us.
I don't think we were just accidentally evolving from dust out of space.
The Creator needs us.
Let's assume He's a male for now.
What He wants to do is learn from us.
What He did is create us in His own image And gave us choice at the same time and wanted to see what we would do.
So we're a hybrid of God, if you will, and humanity at the same time.
And we have the opportunity to live our lives and create information that I believe goes into a central place.
I call them cosmic records.
So that we have the power of God.
We don't know it.
We don't see it.
We don't have some of the ways of being able to express it.
But we've got it.
And we get that through our intuition.
These are gifts.
We think we're so smart, we get a bright idea in the middle of the night.
Where the heck do you think it came from?
Is your brilliant brain inventing all this thing?
It's the God in you that's doing that.
And that's what makes us human, to be able to have that balance between the two.
And it's our job to find out what the truth is by being authentic.
And that's what you and I are doing today.
Because this conversation is not going to go over with a lot of people, but so what?
They've got to be awakened.
And if they think it's garbage, fine.
There may be a few people out there that think, oh, that's an interesting way to look at it.
I might do that myself.
Well, actually, I think this conversation is going to be really popular with a lot of people, especially when we talk about the next point.
Oh, no.
We go any deeper?
Yeah, let's go deeper.
So then, if our job is to awaken consciousness, which I agree with, but then there's this whole segment of society, kind of the New Age segment, That says, well, we can just sit in a room and meditate and not deal with reality.
We can create our reality and don't have to actually do anything.
And, you know, I've had issues with that narrow interpretation.
I mean, yes, meditation is vastly important.
It's a good thing to do, but don't depend on that.
You've got to take your own responsibility for what you think and do and the actions that you take.
It's on your shoulders.
Pogo got it right.
That little thingy.
He's an alien.
He got it right.
Well, so then what are the answers for us?
I mean, okay, so people, let's say we start by resisting the insane vaccine mandate orders, or we resist the insane mask mandate orders, as you are doing, but...
That's just a symptom of the far deeper problem, which is that we're still ruled by insane sociopaths.
Yes.
How do we deal with that problem?
Well, we can stop.
We can think for ourselves.
We can get together and reform democracy for America.
From the grassroots up, I have the fear that we aren't going to respond to anything until it's so bad that if we don't respond, we're in real big trouble in a way that's actualized right now.
And that we have to do.
The other thing we have to do is we have to evolve.
We don't evolve the way we are.
Like I said a minute ago, we're going to be doing the same thing over and over again.
Revolution is not the answer.
Evolution is the answer.
Yeah.
But then the globalists say that's why they have to get rid of all the low IQ people.
And the globalists tell themselves that the vaccine mandate is a global IQ test and anyone stupid enough to take it deserves to be eliminated from the future of the human gene pool.
So that's how Bill Gates sleeps at night.
He says he's saving humanity.
Yeah, well, poor Bill.
I feel sorry for him, actually.
I feel sorry for everybody else, too.
But he's doing us a favor because he's waking us up.
We're facing what's happening in the world today in a good and evil level, at a spiritual level.
And we are going to have to make decisions about what to do.
We need to wake up.
We can't just talk it.
The words don't do it.
It's the actions.
And everybody in their heart...
My friends, okay?
In their heart, they want to do the right thing.
Most of the doctors I know want to do the right thing.
I think they've been brainwashed so that they can't.
And I think the way the culture operates, it's difficult because it's too much.
The values are what's the most successful person there is.
Bill Gates, he's got all the money.
Well, who's the biggest failure of all time?
Bill Gates, he's got all the money and look what he's doing with it.
So what you have to do is you have to go back to the principles of what are human beings supposed to do.
What's your epitaph say?
You should know that now so that you can aim for it rather than shoot, ready, aim.
That's the problem.
With a lot of people that I see in my office, I'm inclined to say, well, what's your point in life?
I mean, what are you trying to do?
And they go, well, I don't know.
I need to retire.
It's because they don't like what they're doing.
Oh.
Why don't we look at our values and see what they are?
And then try to find a way to go after them in a very organized way.
Write your epitaph, for God's sakes.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, it's extraordinary.
People were asking me, like, what's the most valuable asset that I have in my life?
You know, because people see, you know, I own a big, you know, retail operation and all this.
I said, no, the most valuable asset that I have is the favor of God.
There you go.
The favor of God.
And the God that's within you.
Wake it up.
Well, yeah, and no matter what happens in this world, if you leave with your morality and ethics intact, then you, you know, quote, win.
You graduate.
You succeed.
You've got a good epitaph.
That's right.
I mean, nothing else matters.
I mean, sure, you know, money and material things are important.
Everybody's got to put on a pair of pants in the morning.
That's right.
Well, not everyone, but...
I don't know about Bill Gates.
I don't know what his daily routine is like.
But most people, you've got to pay the rent, you've got to have electricity, so you need a little bit of money.
But beyond that, it's pointless stuff.
Well, it is.
The values are all what we're taught.
The rules that we learn in school are the wrong things.
We want to make rocket scientists and doctors, and we want to make a lot of money, and we want people to listen to us.
We want to be important.
The things that matter to me the most is helping other people.
So when somebody comes into my office, the reason I told you last time I don't make any money in my practice, I get such a thrill out of taking somebody who can't afford the services that I normally would bill for and give it to them.
And have them get better for it.
And have them have a tear in their eyes as they say to me, thank you, doctor.
You helped me so much.
And I just love you.
If you need anything, let me know.
If I have a dead body in my garage, I've got a thousand people who are going to come and help me bury it.
Because they respect what I've done for them.
And they know I've got a good heart.
Because that's what matters.
That's what the juice of life is.
What can I give, not what can I take?
So Gates and Fauci got it all mixed up.
What about personal responsibility in the sense that you must have patients that come to you?
Because I've talked to many, many practitioners in Chinese medicine and naturopathy and so on.
And one of the things I hear from a lot of practitioners is that they love the patients that take responsibility for their lives, but they always get this group of patients that come in and say, fix me, doctor.
You fix me.
It's your job, not my job.
I'm going to go abuse my body for a week and then come back and you fix me.
How do you deal with that?
I fix them.
And then I go back next week and have another problem and I try to fix that.
And then we have a little conversation.
I don't have 15 minute appointments.
They're more like a half an hour to an hour.
And I get behind some of the time because of that.
Because what I want to do when somebody comes in is I want to look at their whole self, a holistic look at them.
And see how they're doing.
And then pay attention to the details.
But I have to listen to them.
Because they understand why they're doing the crazy things they're doing.
I don't.
And I have to learn those things from them.
Then I might make a suggestion, but I hardly ever tell anybody what to do.
And if I have a non-compliant patient, fine.
They're people too and they need help.
And it's okay.
They may need a little penicillin or digitalis.
I might do that even, to go along with that, because where the rubber meets the road is our relationship.
If I'm not listening and caring, they're not going to come back.
And I don't deserve to have them come back.
My job is to try and help them in some way, not argue with them about what they're supposed to do.
So that turned out to be an easy question.
Well, that's just because you're a very tolerant person.
Well, it's the golden rule.
I would want somebody to listen to me.
I've done stupid things before.
Still do.
Maybe this is one of them.
I don't know.
What about on a greater scale, though?
Like right now, we're facing this medical tyranny in society, and you still have this segment of the population that says, well, Dr.
Saputo, stop worrying.
Government will save us.
Oh yeah, sure.
And a vaccine will save us.
Boy, the economy will bounce back after that vaccine.
Because Dr.
Fauci is an angel because their eyes are just blurry enough they think they see wings when they're actually horns.
But, you know, for whatever reason, people are delusional.
Yeah, well, people are delusional, but they have to be.
You have to look at their whole life story.
You can't just look at the symptoms that they have.
You've got to know a person.
Why do they do what they do?
How does it fit into their whole life story?
How does it fit into their family and their community and their country?
These are all questions that are rarely asked by doctors because they don't have time.
They're working for these big bureaucratic organizations that say, you've got 10 or 15 minutes to see your patient, and by the way, you've got 20 patients to see today.
And it's like, oh God, I don't want to be a doctor anymore.
If I had to practice like that, I would go teach tennis or something.
I would get a lot more out of that because it's the relationship we have with people that does the healing.
It's not the technology.
Now, you may save somebody's life with penicillin or something.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But you also have to look at the deeper meaning of what the illness means.
And if you don't do that, you're not a healer.
You're a technician.
You're following the rules of what a corporation is telling you.
This is what you do.
Now, I can't practice that way.
So I've never joined any of these organizations.
And I don't make any money, but I sure as hell am having an epitaph that I'm proud of.
I am so proud to be a doctor.
The doctor that I am.
I would never go to medical school again the way it is today.
In fact, let's make an appointment here.
When you and I are both in the afterlife, I'm going to high-five you right there in heaven.
I'm going to high-five you for the job well done here on this planet, because both of our lifetimes are so short compared to eternity.
We're going to have lots of chances to connect elsewhere.
But speaking of supernatural powers, Dr.
Stella Emanuel, who's one of the doctors of America's frontline doctors, who was heavily censored, Oh, yeah.
She was then smeared in the media.
I mean, just viciously smeared.
What do you expect?
She talks about, you know, evil demon spirits.
I don't know the exact word.
She's right.
Exactly.
Go ahead.
No, you go ahead.
It's all right.
These people are crazy at what they're trying to do.
They've got an agenda that's organized to money and power.
I'm talking about the people who are trying to stop her.
The media, yeah.
And she's trying to do what's right, and she knows it's the right thing to do.
And so there's no dialogue here.
There's just censorship.
And then there's a conspiracy to stop her.
I hope she stays alive.
She's in Houston, by the way.
We're going to reach out to her and invite her on if she's willing to do that, because she's an extraordinary woman.
Well, she would love to be on this show.
Well, she's probably got so many interview requests, it's going to take a while for her to work through that.
But, I mean, most of the places are probably trying to...
Well, who's going to interview her, Mike?
Who's going to interview her?
Well, I know.
Nobody in the mainstream.
You've got to take her apart.
And there's only a few people who you'd want to, you know, Sayer G, you, and Dell Bigtree and a couple others.
There's a handful of people doing it.
No, I mean, there's really not that many people who even have, I guess, the life experience or the spiritual awareness to even ask the right questions.
I hope you'll ask her.
Well, we will.
We will.
Maybe we'll go visit her.
She's in Houston, not that far away from where I am, so who knows?
We'll let that opportunity unfold as it does.
But I want to be mindful of your time, too.
Now, we've had already a really wonderful and really important conversation, and also kind of fun.
I always like the fact that you and I can have fun as we're talking about anything.
All these conversations are authentic.
Well, exactly.
They may not be right, okay, but they're authentic.
Well, you know, we are wondering out loud about some of the things that we're not...
We don't know exactly what forces are at work, so...
No, we don't.
We know some of them.
We know some of them.
Yeah.
But what would you like for people to take away from today's conversation, which, you know, the title was, Humanity's Been Hijacked.
How do you wrap that up and leave people with some hope of things they can do?
Okay, there are a couple things they can do.
First of all, they can say no to the things that they don't agree with.
If they think they should wear a mask, wear the mask.
It's okay with me if you want to wear a mask.
But if you don't want to wear a mask, what we should do is get together and have a big mask-burning party.
You know, we had these bra-burning parties years ago in my generation.
Let's have a mask-burning party and do something like what the Germans did.
You know, they were marching 17,000 people the other day, all saying, we're not going to wear a mask.
We're not going to go for this home confinement.
We're not going to go along with any of the stuff that you're talking about because we think it's baloney.
Do that sort of thing.
Stand up for your rights.
Don't just sit back and wait for something to happen to you.
And then the second thing is be a good person.
Practice a golden rule.
See if you can teach your kids the right thing.
Spend some time with them so that they're not raised in a latchkey sort of setting.
And they have values that make sense.
And think about your own values.
See if you can evolve to that higher level of consciousness where you want to do good in the world rather than you want to just have a new Porsche or a new car or a new house or another boat.
Those things own you.
What you own is the way you deal with your own life.
So do that and do that with authenticity and just do it right.
Those are my messages to people.
Well, that's a very important message, and of course I completely agree with that, but just to redirect to you on that, the Bill Gates of the world and the vaccine companies, they camouflage their actions in the words that you just used, too.
They say they're doing good, that they have morals and ethics, and anyone who opposes them is evil.
So how then, how do people discern The difference between authentic good and the faked, staged good from the corporations that are actually carrying out acts of evil.
Yeah, well, see, sometimes you can't.
And so you have to do the best that you can.
And I thank Bill Gates and Fauci and the CDC and the NIH and the World Health Organization For teaching me the lessons they have, because I'm not going to make those mistakes, or none of us, I hope, are going to make those mistakes again.
This is a wake-up call.
This is an opportunity to try and go beyond where we are.
And that's what we have to, that's what makes us better people and makes us more functional and makes us live in a community instead of a place where we're all vying for the number one spot.
It's not about that.
It's not about you.
It's about what you can give and how you can share and how you can build community and love, because that's what I think the major force of the universe is.
Just identify with it, because that's what we all crave.
And once we have that, things get better because we're all on the same team.
This divisiveness is making us weak and it's killing us.
So part of us has to stand up and say no and part of us has to evolve.
That's what I think.
Well said.
I love it.
I always enjoy hearing from you, Dr.
Saputo.
It's always an intriguing conversation.
I learn a lot every time I talk with you as well, and you always bring solutions to the table.
Well, thank you.
It's always a privilege to be with you, Mike.
The work you're doing, I so much admire.
I've learned a lot about how you have been authentic from the start.
When I didn't see it, Well, thank you for affirming that.
I've had a lot of people follow a similar path, too, where, you know, five years ago, when I said the vaccine companies are anti-human, they will kill people to make money, right?
That was a fringe conspiracy theory in 2015.
Today, it's believed by probably 40% of Americans.
I think you're right.
We're learning how things have changed.
Well, we're learning together.
And, you know, it shows like this that give people a viewpoint of the whole story rather than just the one thing that you see on television.
The TV is owned by some people that I think must have an evil streak in them because the stuff that they're putting out there isn't news anymore.
They're just opinions that are one-sided no matter what station you listen to.
Well, their bullet points come from an email.
My bullet points come from God.
Just a little secret.
You know how I get ideas?
It's very simple.
I walk in nature, and my head is automatically filled with ideas.
It's effortless.
I don't even try to do it.
You know, Einstein talked about this.
What he said is the job of the physicist is to try and understand the cosmos.
And then he goes, good luck.
He says the way you're going to learn about that is through your intuition and your experience.
So these are gifts that we get.
And they're given to us by the God that's above that is giving us the information we need to be the best people that we can if we're authentic.
And I think that's where we are.
Well, that's what I say to people, too, in a different way.
I say, you want to be creative?
You want to be successful?
Get your brain out of the way so that your consciousness can be filled with ideas that are divine.
That's it.
Get your brain out of the way.
You get a high-five for that one.
All right, double high-five.
I wish we could meet in person, but we'll have to do a...
Well, sometime we'll have to do that.
Okay, sounds good.
Dr.
Saputo, always a pleasure.
Thank you for joining me.
Let me give out your website one more time.
It's drsaputo.com.
You'll see it on screen there, folks.
And, of course, check back.
We'll interview Dr.
Saputo from time to time as topics emerge.
And we will ask the question next time.
Here's our homework.
You know that game Animal, Mineral, Vegetable?
Next time, we're going to play a game called Demons, Aliens, Sociopaths, and Interdimensional Beings.
So I'll name a person, and you tell me what they are.
How about that?
That sounds like fun.
Thanks, Mike.
Okay.
Thank you so much.
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