Dr. Paul Cottrell on the riots, COVID-19 and censorship of the truth
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Welcome, everyone.
It's June 4th.
We have a brand new interview with Dr.
Paul Cottrell from New York City.
This is Mike Adams here and we've spoken with Dr.
Cottrell many times about the pandemic and today we're going to have a whirlwind of conversations.
Let me give you a quick table of contents as we welcome Dr.
Cottrell to the show today.
We're going to talk about censorship, about hydroxychloroquine.
We're going to talk about the Lancet gate, the total science fraud behind the study published by the Lancet That was designed to trash hydroxychloroquine and clear the way for vaccines.
We're going to talk about the pandemic.
Did it vanish?
Did it never exist?
Or is it still very real and still poses a future threat?
And then finally, I'm going to ask Dr.
Cottrell about the riots in America today.
So we've got a lot to cover.
Welcome to the show, Dr.
Cottrell.
Thank you for having me, Mike.
Well, out of all those topics, where would you like to start?
Because it's insane what's going on.
Well, let's talk about the Lancet gate first and what's going on with hydroxychloroquine.
Alright, well, let me just give a quick background for the readers.
It turns out that the study published in the Lancet and the New England Journal of Medicine was based on data from a company called Surgisphere, and that company turns out to have been staffed by a science fiction author and an adult content model And none of the people there have any science background.
The data appear to be entirely fabricated.
The hospitals in Australia, upon which the data were supposedly based, they have told The Guardian in the UK that they never heard of this company, never provided any data.
The whole thing's totally faked, and it looks like it was designed to just smear hydroxychloroquine and stop the clinical trials from taking place that were looking at the effectiveness of that off-patent drug in treating COVID-19.
So that's the background.
You take it from there, Dr.
Cottrell.
What's your take?
Well, what's interesting is that on that paper that you're mentioning, one of the doctors was actually from HMS, Harvard Medical School.
And one of the co-authors was a doctor from this, what is it, Surgisphere?
Yeah, Surgisphere.
And they seem to be a company, at least they're claiming to be a company, that is machine learning.
They do.
And using data from hospitals.
And that they have a huge database of what's going on with the hospitals.
And that's why they had this really important information that could be looked at to determine if hydroxychloroquine had efficacy.
Unfortunately, it really is a bogus study.
And it's falling right in line with what I'm noticing in social media.
They're taking down videos, they're taking down news articles, they're trying to discredit individuals and say, you know what, there may be drugs out there like hydroxychloroquine and others that if administered at the right moment, Could be very beneficial for some cohorts.
And we've been saying this all the way back in February, that it's not a panacea.
It's not a magic bullet.
But for some individuals, when administered at the right time, especially if it's prophylactically, that it could be very helpful.
There are many hospital workers that are on the front line that were taking hydroxychloroquine prophylactically.
And didn't get sick.
So here you get this one company that's coming out of nowhere, and they're a machine learning company.
Here's a classic example where you have to be careful when they're building up models and data sets and using machine learning to tell you what's really happening in the real world.
Instead of doing old-fashioned clinical studies where it's, you know, double-blinded and it's controlled and, you know, that wasn't the case here.
And I, unfortunately, it looks like HMS is touting the line of trying to promote this vaccine program because that's what I see it is.
They're trying to squash what drugs are out there on the shelf that could be repurposed And they're squashing that, and they're trying to promote this Moderna vaccine program.
Well, there's so many important points about this that you've mentioned.
I mean, number one, how can the public ever trust the medical journals ever again if they publish this kind of garbage, fraudulent data?
Secondly, in my opinion, that company, Surgisphere, the founder of it, Desai, I think is his name, It just looks like a total con artist, just using machine learning and AI systems, just basically throwing out a bunch of jargon and then telling the reporters at The Guardian, well, you don't understand our highly complex models.
No, I understand it.
You're making it up.
It's just fraudulent, but they try to cover themselves with language that sounds very science-y, but in my opinion, it all looks like just complete fraud, and there are a lot of other signs, like that company had claimed a lot of awards on its website, had like award icons and everything, and some people looked those up.
Those weren't even real.
The awards didn't even go to that company.
This company came out of nowhere, staffed by no one who had any real background in science.
Looks like total fraud and con artistry to me.
And the Lancet published it.
And they haven't retracted it.
So what does that tell you about medical journals?
No, they're in cahoots to a larger entity that's controlling them.
I mean, we saw this with even Nature and Science, where they were trying to promote this idea that this virus was zoonotic.
Well, we know that it was cooked up at Fort Detrick and then transferred over to P4 in Wuhan.
We know this.
The scientific community is being told to tow a certain line.
You've got to remember how most of these PhDs work.
They have to file for grant money.
And to feed their lab.
If they don't get those federal funds, they're not towing a certain line.
They're not going to have a lab.
And they're not going to be able to publish.
And they're not going to be able to get their tenure or get their notoriety and keep their chair at their university.
So there's this, they're controlling people.
Sure they are, but it's extraordinary, the brazenness, so to speak, of the fraud now, where it's such a joke.
I mean, The Lancet has just become a joke.
Stanford has become a joke.
Here's the point, Mike.
Here's the point.
It's a joke to you and I, because we see it day to day.
But individuals that are new to this whole problem, new to this, and they're just trying to get educated, If the powers that be start retracting really important journals that prove our point and promote this garbage articles out there, then the ones that are coming to the table new, they don't know any better.
So they're brainwashing.
They're brainwashing individuals.
I see it a lot with NatureMegs.
A lot.
And even Judy Mikovits was talking about this problem.
That just goes to show you the dangers of centralized science and centralized media and centralized tech companies censorship where they set the narrative, it can be completely false, they push it and they destroy all competing views or evidence that might contradict their narratives.
But it raises the bigger question then, how can any reasonable person No one ever trusts the safety of a vaccine if the vaccine safety studies are published by the same journals that engage in this total scientific fraud to destroy hydroxychloroquine.
If they can fake that and not retract it, then of course they can fake anything.
And they do fake many, many things.
Aren't we looking at really the complete destruction of credibility of the science establishment right now?
Because it's been hijacked by non-science, profit-driven, anti-human entities that have other agendas beyond knowledge.
Yes, I totally agree with you on that.
And this is why some databases are starting to be, are becoming more and more popular, like SSRN. I publish my stuff in SSRN. You know, where you can put a working paper out there.
People can comment, but it's out there instead of censored by nature or science.
But to get those tenureships and to get those, you know, chaired positions, you've got to be publishing your major journals and toe the line.
That's unfortunately the way it is.
But you can't trust the vaccine industry.
That's why a third party needs to be involved.
And hopefully maybe Kennedy can get involved in this, but a third party that's actually testing random lots of these vaccines to make sure it proves what's in it is safe.
We need to have an oversight.
There's not a true oversight.
I'm not talking about congressional oversight on the industry.
I'm talking about a third party that can publish data that's not tied to...
You know, big pharma, and they can say, this is what's going on with this lot, with this vaccine.
We need that in this country.
No such voice will be allowed to exist.
They'd be banned immediately by all the tech giants.
Let's go to the second topic here.
We can circle back if we want to, but let's talk about the pandemic.
Now since, you know, originally the pandemic, the number of infections in the U.S. was doubling about every 3.5 days.
And we were on this real exponential explosion until the initial lockdowns took place around mid-March.
And then, after about a five-week lag time, The number of hospitalizations and deaths began to really decline and plummet.
New York, at its peak, there were about 800 people a day dying in New York.
That number has dropped substantially back to sort of seasonal norms.
But what's happened, I've noticed in the alternative media or independent media, now more than ever, Prominent voices and publishers are convinced and publicly stating that they believe there was never a pandemic, nobody died, there isn't a virus, there's no such thing as COVID-19, that the entire thing was a total hoax.
And that position has become even stronger than when the deaths were happening.
So it's like they've already forgotten what was happening in New York City.
What's your take on all of this, how the mythology is developing surrounding this, where many, many people are now convinced it never happened?
That's a great word that you're using, mythology.
It's in reverse of what we were saying before.
You had the scientific community trying to hide real research showing that hydroxychloroquine works.
Well, in the media, in this alt media that we're in, they are whitewashing the reality.
We know for a fact that there are multiple strains of SARS-CoV-2.
We have the sequence.
It is in a database.
People can search for it.
We have the epidemiological evidence that shows that around the country and around the world that we had a problem and it was called COVID-19.
That was way above any seasonal flu.
And not only that, the researchers, looking at the autopsies, see the fibrotic scarring, the gliosis in the brain, the peripheral nervous system damage, the problems that we're seeing with the infections with the red blood cells and the T cells, which is the non-ARDS that Dr.
Kyle Sedell was bringing up when he was a physician in the ICU in New York.
There is tons of evidence and CT scans of COVID-19.
The presentation is much, much different than your normal seasonal flu.
So the data is there if they pay attention to it.
The problem is that individuals within this alternative news realm have cognitive dissonance, And they can't think multiple dimensions.
They think black or white.
They're very deontological.
They're assuming that if there is a protest against Trump, then everything that led up to the protest must be fake because they're trying to overthrow Trump.
And it's kind of this...
They wrap it into some...
Some sort of conspiracy.
They're going down the wrong road.
It was very real.
I had people that I'm friends with that had loved ones that died from COVID-19.
Unfortunately, we're still in it.
It's getting better.
It's smashing the curve down.
Help contain it.
But...
We don't know what the long-term effects are, especially the ones that had the severe cases.
As I mentioned before, as I go into residency for cardiothoracic surgery, I suspect, in a really strange way, I suspect what I was learning now about COVID-19 will be applied to when I see those patients having those strange illnesses that are pulmonary, that are related to their infection during COVID-19.
2020.
You know, so this is very real.
It's a lot better than we thought, though.
You know, we originally were thinking, you know what, we may be having half the population that is taken down, you know, severely sick, you know, millions of people could have died, but the containment worked, and that is a good thing.
That doesn't mean that it didn't exist.
See, what they're saying is that there weren't more people that died, so therefore it must not have existed.
No, shelter in place did work.
I actually predicted this in early March.
I said that if we have lockdowns and we beat this thing, then we will be accused of raising a false alarm over something that didn't exist.
And sure enough, that's exactly what's happened.
But there are two things I want to ask you, technical things.
Number one, The current infection rate, the real infection rate in America, not all the false positives from the bad serological tests, the antibody tests, what do you estimate roughly might be the real infection rate so far in America?
Because I think it's well under 10%, which means this thing could come back, but I want your opinion.
And then secondly...
Most people in independent media keep repeating this claim where they say the coronavirus has never been isolated.
I'm not sure what they mean by that because it's been sequenced.
Many different mutations and strains have been sequenced, so that's a kind of isolation.
We know the nucleotide sequence of its composition.
Do you have any idea what people mean when they say it's never been isolated?
Because I hear that over and over and over again, and I ask people to explain it, and they don't know what it means.
It's a comment that's from the pseudoscientists that think that they know what they're talking about.
It has been isolated because you wouldn't be able to run the RT-PCR and be able to sequence this stuff unless it was isolated.
It's insane.
Not only that, we know what the probes are.
We've sequenced it.
We've developed probes.
We know what the forward and reverse primers are for For different areas of the genome, you know, we know what areas of the genome do what, you know, for this coronavirus.
You know, I went into detail what was inserted where in the genome and why.
You know, so I mean, it's been isolated.
It's not only that, it's been mutated.
It's mutated and has been further isolated in sequence.
So there's multiple strains of this.
Around the world.
So it's been isolated.
That's for sure.
The first point was...
Infection rate.
Oh, infection rate.
I'm working with the idea that we're around the 18-19%.
I don't think it's lower than that.
I don't think it's that much higher than that.
Okay.
My original thought back in February, and again, modeling is more of a magic than science, but my original thought was by the end of the year, half the population would be infected.
I don't think that's going to be the case.
I think shelter-in-place did smash down the curve, as Stephen Bannon has really proposed.
We really had to do shelter-in-place to really slow this thing down, and that is a good thing.
Certain protocols worked.
But there is such a thing as, okay, now it's time to reboot the economy and move forward, and not to be a bunch of germaphobes and move on with life.
Yes, there may be some reinfections, but I don't think it's going to be as drastic as it was back in February and March, and we can move on.
But we have to keep an eye on what is some of the chronic situations that this might cause.
Half.
We don't know.
We're dealing with an unknown.
But to shut down the whole world or our economy going forward, I think, is not being prudent anymore.
And it's time to reboot.
But it did happen.
It was isolated.
And we have roughly around, you know, for states that have a population like New York, we have roughly about 19% to 20% that have been infected.
For lower populated states, it's probably going to be on much less.
So it's not a one-size-fits-all situation.
That's right.
Yeah, I think your number really applies to New York.
But I think a lot, maybe sort of the Midwest and the South and so on, maybe isn't at that number yet.
But I think you're right about New York.
But let me ask you a question that I also ask myself, because I always challenge my own thinking about this.
What is different now that would prevent the virus from resuming a doubling every 3.5 days?
What's changed?
You know, how is this not going to explode like that again?
That's the question.
Well, you know, part of it is that we've been sheltered in place for so long that it's kind of died.
Within the population, it's died out.
All right?
Now, over time, this thing's going to attenuate.
People are going to start building up antibodies.
This thing's going to weaken, hopefully, and it doesn't do the pinballing that we talked about on a previous show, and it won't flare up.
But there may be a little bit of an increase in October of cases.
But I don't think it's going to be anywhere near what we were thinking in February or March.
I think we have a better idea that nature is much more robust.
Our immune system is much more robust.
Being able to control the comorbidity issues that we were talking about earlier, I think we have a better hold.
At least the medical community has a better understanding.
We also were very worried that the medical system would fail, that it would fall apart, and that we would have to lean on homeopathic remedies only because the whole medical system would crash.
Well, that's not going to happen.
We're more prepared for a surge if it does happen in October than we were in February.
So a lot has been learned about this, about the pathology of the virus, about preparing the medical system for a surge.
I think the educational level now with individuals on how to properly wash their hands, do proper hygiene, social distancing, if there is an issue, it can be caught quicker, so it shuts it down faster.
So I'm not too worried.
There may be a flare-up a little bit, but I don't think it's going to be to the point where it's going to shut down the world.
It did in February.
What role do you think nutrition has played in this?
Because for several months, a couple of months, you couldn't even find zinc on Amazon.com.
Vitamin C was completely wiped out.
We couldn't even get it commercially as a raw material.
People were buying and taking vitamin D, all the supplements that you recommended as well, Rolora, for example, and others.
The American people, en masse, People decided to self-nourish with nutritional supplements, regardless of what the media was reporting.
I mean, nutritional supplements were flying off the shelves.
Do you think that played a role?
Yes, definitely.
People being engaged in their own health and promoting their own immune system to be able to just fight pathogens in general and just to have a healthier body.
When people are sick all the time, they age quicker.
When you take these types of supplements that we're talking about, and there's a plethora, a cornucopia of them that could be taken, people just feel better.
And when they are exposed to a pathogen, usually they can fight it pretty quickly.
And I think that us reaching out and trying to educate people Of, you know, hey, what?
You know, boost your immune system.
You'll be better off in the long run.
I think actually a lot of people heeded to that advice and are following that protocol.
And hopefully they continue to follow it.
I think they will, honestly, because it's a compound effect.
They feel it.
And then it's also a psychological thing where it's like, well, we're getting out of shelter in place, so they may...
Add a little bit more vitamin C to their supplementation, maybe take licorice root or some other types of herbs and stuff, and that will boost up their immune system, especially rosemary and stuff like that, that will be able to counteract that second wave or even just the normal influenza.
That's passed around.
So yeah, I agree.
Definitely.
I think people are getting more educated about the homeopathic and naturopathic route.
Oh, I think so, too.
I think it's been really revolutionary.
That's the silver lining in all of this.
But here's another question.
We now know statistically that the vast majority of deaths occurred, of course, in the elderly, but a lot of them in nursing homes and long-term care facilities.
And in some regions, as much as 88% of the deaths were attributed to those kinds of facilities.
It is a requirement in those facilities that every elderly person that comes in, every patient, every resident, receives a flu shot.
And we've seen other research that shows that people who previously received flu shots had, I think in one study, a 36% increased risk of mortality from a COVID-19 diagnosis.
In your opinion, is there or could there be a link between taking flu shots and COVID-19 mortality and maybe that's why so many people are dying in the nursing homes or do you think it's just age?
I don't think that there's a correlation, honestly, with the flu shot in elderly and COVID-19 deaths.
But I'd take it a little bit further.
If you're elderly, you already have somewhat of a compromised immune system.
Typically, you already have some sort of comorbidity, high blood pressure, issues with your kidneys or whatever.
Or liver metabolism.
So by giving the flu shot could exacerbate inflammation that brings down your immune system that leads to the COVID-19 infection or outbreak in that community.
It's not causal, but it exacerbates.
So I'm parsing the words here.
You see what I mean?
So it's not like the flu shot caused COVID-19.
No.
But the flu shot for some cohorts in that community could bring down their system to a point where they're more susceptible.
Right.
That makes sense.
Especially if they're not doing the supplementation, whereas the antivirals, antimicrobials, anti-inflammatory type supplementation.
So it may be associative, but not causal.
Right.
Well, no, it's incredible just to try to get nutrition into...
If you've got a parent or a grandparent who's in one of these facilities and you're watching this, you already know how hard it is to get nutrition into that facility to give to your loved one because these facilities typically are anti-nutrition.
They just want to make sure they take their medications and their flu shots and everything, but nutrition, forget it.
And, you know, that's...
Nutritional deficiencies are extremely widespread among the elderly because of...
Just as an anecdotal thing to add to this, I get an email from my medical school that states, well, that flu shot that you took is going to be wearing out, and by August 1st, you need another one, Paul.
Is that right?
Yeah.
It's like, to be compliant.
Yeah.
It's like, it's never ending with these people.
Never ending.
And you know what?
I honestly don't need a flu shot.
But the powers that be are forcing it upon me.
That's where we need to elevate the conversation.
When we're talking about the protests, it's kind of focused on police brutality, which does happen for sure.
But I would like the protesters to elevate the conversation on the overreach of the federal government and the state government on telling you what they can put in your body.
And the amazing powers that they gave to the HHS and the CDC. That's a much bigger issue than the police brutality.
And it actually harms more people if you look at the data.
Police brutality versus a vaccine injured.
Well, you know, yeah, it's extraordinary.
I was listening to Candace Owens, and she was revealing that actually more white people are killed by cops than black people.
If you look at the statistics, you know, far more.
But that pales in comparison to the number of black people that are killed by, let's say, the cancer industry.
You know, with chemotherapy that they may not need because of false positive diagnosis or even the vaccine industry.
You know, we saw the CDC whistleblower talking about how young black infants were more predisposed to risk of autism due to vaccines and, you know, possible genetic differences in ability to clear some of the adjuvant ingredients, for example.
Exactly.
This is where those protesters need to elevate the conversation.
Right.
Talking about the government overreach.
Yeah, right.
They're just focused on an important issue, but it's only a microcosm of a larger mosaic.
Yeah, yeah.
For every white cop that is putting his knee on the neck of a black man and murdering him, you know, there's 50,000 black people being killed in the cancer clinics, you know, and those aren't being protested against.
I mean, that is a real issue, and vitamin D deficiency is very common across African-American communities, but no one's being told that you need to take vitamin D. They're never told.
So it's like the medical system treats black people.
It's interesting that you say that.
With work colleagues that are African American, honestly, very few do supplementation.
Very few.
And they're working indoors.
Yeah, that's strange.
I never really thought about that.
It's just not in their daily protocol to do.
Yeah, no.
It should be the first thing.
You know, they say you can't judge a person by the color of their skin.
But guess what?
You can take a good guess at their nutritional deficiency of vitamin D by the color of their skin because black skin pigmentation blocks sunlight.
It's a natural sunscreen.
It's actually a protective shield in people who are from Africa, which is closer to the equator and has much more intensive sunlight.
And if you don't have black pigmentation, you're going to die from cancer because of all the gene mutations from the radiation of the sun.
So they have built-in sunscreen.
It's a benefit, actually.
But if you're living indoors and you're not getting sun, you're vitamin D deficient.
And that's why black babies are being born with rickets.
Rubbery bones, vitamin D deficiency, they're born with rickets and no one's telling the mother, hey, maybe you should take vitamin D. Your baby's born with rickets.
It's an obvious thing.
And these nutritional levels will, especially when embryos are forming, fetuses are forming, that it will lead down neurological issues and cognitive issues.
So it's sad.
It's sad.
Very sad.
And this needs to be addressed.
Yeah.
There are studies, we've written about this, that prenatal vitamin D deficiency leads to the children later having a much higher risk of type 2 diabetes.
So diabetes is ravaging the black community in America.
Cancer is ravaging them.
The common solution is vitamin D. No one is telling them to take vitamin D. So you want to talk about racism.
Yeah.
Cops, there are a few cops, bad apples, that are killing, murdering black people in America.
The medical system is murdering 100,000 times higher numbers of black Americans.
And most people don't even know it.
It's crazy.
But that leads us to the riots.
You know, but to your point, people that I've known in the workplace that were black, many of them had diabetes.
Many.
It's very common.
Yeah.
Again, I bet you if you look at their vitamin D levels in their blood, they're going to be very low.
And also, by the way, those same individuals have a much higher risk of bone fractures from accidents.
So I've seen cases where even MMA fighters who were black, who trained indoors all the time, and they would go to do a sidekick and they would shatter The bones in the lower part of the leg.
There was a famous MMA fighter that did that in a championship bout.
Lost the bout.
His leg fell apart.
Vitamin D deficiency.
No bone density.
Right, right.
Makes sense.
Totally makes sense.
Yeah.
Doesn't matter how good of a fighter you are if your bones crack, right?
Anyway, I didn't mean to get off on that side topic, but I did want to get to the riots.
I get very passionate about vitamin D and black America because to me that's just medical racism that no one's telling them.
But let's talk about the riots.
So Let's just start with your take on it.
Where are we?
It's been many days.
Riot seems to be escalating.
Obviously, way beyond the George Floyd vigils and so on, just seems to be people just wanting to burn down cities at this point.
What's your take?
Well, there's definitely an anger.
Rightfully so.
There was the wrongful death of George Floyd.
And it's police brutality and overreach.
Again, I prefer them to elevate the conversation into, you know, overall government overreach.
But I think that the protest movement that's happening right now has been infiltrated by Antifa.
And Antifa is a fascist movement, even though they say they're anti-fascist, but it's a fascist movement that's anti-Trump, anti-America, and they don't care about anything but raising havoc.
It's a small percentage, but all you need is a small percentage within a movement to cause chaos.
So the far majority of the protesters, I don't think they really even know why they're protesting.
They're just protesting.
They're reacting.
But there are, there is, there's a few bad apples within this protest movement across the country that seems to be orchestrating these, these more violent, aggressive behaviors.
And I, I, I pointed squarely at, at Antifa.
This movement that is starting to emerge from this is an anti-Trump thing.
And I think the Democrats are hoping that this will, will continue some sort of racial tension into October.
So when we do the general election, that they have a hope of not electing President Trump for a second term.
I don't think that's going to happen.
I think Trump will win a second term.
But this happened very similarly when he was running for his first term, remember, in Chicago?
That's right.
I do.
So this seems like they're replaying the whole playbook again.
The virus didn't kill off Trump's You know, potential run for second office.
The economy doesn't...
It seems to be...
It'll be coming back.
There's many people that are employed, and it'll take some time to heal.
But it's not going to deep-six his presidency, which was a concern earlier in the year.
But, you know, the market is stabilized in terms of financial markets.
So Trump, from that...
From that value or variable is okay to winning the presidency.
So now they're pulling the race card, which is what they used at the very beginning of the first general election with Trump.
And then they roll out Obama.
If you noticed, he did a kind of like a webinar thing with a group of people, and Eric Holder was involved on that show, and he's saying that, well, the rioters, they have a reason to riot because of the deaths of George Floyd.
True, true.
That's very true.
But again, he's a former president.
He should have the wisdom to elevate the conversation and To talk about this overreach of the government.
But here's the problem.
This is that Obama wants the overreach.
He's a leftist.
He's a socialist.
He's a communist.
They want the top-down government.
So they're fanning the flames through the infiltration of Antifa to try to prevent Trump from winning the election.
That's what I think is happening with the current movement.
The catalyst, what sparked it, was police brutality and anger within the young and the minority communities.
It's being fanned.
The flames are being fanned by these leftist types of mentalities, these organizations, hoping that they can get to October.
And also leftist media, because we just talked about the pandemic.
Do you find it incredible?
I do.
That the left-wing media was condemning, during the lockdowns, they were condemning people for going to church.
They were condemning people for taking a walk.
You know, condemning protesters, you know, right-wing protesters in Michigan.
They were condemning all those people.
Oh, you're going to spread the pandemic.
It's horrible.
But suddenly when it's a left-wing riot nationwide, then there's no concern whatsoever about spreading any infections.
It's, oh, these people have the right to speak.
These people must be heard.
But meanwhile, by the way, We don't have the right to speak, especially if we mention hydroxychloroquine or vaccines or anything.
We're banned and censored, and we're nonviolent, but these violent rioters not only have the ultimate right to speak and be heard, even as they are burning down cities, But that they are apparently immune from all the guidelines about public safety and social distancing and wearing masks and everything else.
Doesn't that, in a sense, condemn the media's entire narrative during the lockdowns anyway?
Well, they're definitely pushing a leftist agenda through the Smith-Monk Modernization Act of 2012.
So, you know, there is this concerted effort for domestic propaganda.
And there is this move.
They're trying to move the country left of center.
And issue in socialism and eventually communism.
That is a real issue.
We are being infiltrated.
And people need to wake up.
And I did a video just recently about the protests and trying to elevate the conversation.
And to try to learn what did we learn from the 1960s.
And the main takeaway that I saw was that MLK, Martin Luther King, was trying to elevate the conversation that it was not the color of the skin, but the character of the individual that's important here.
And the protests that were taking place in, let's say, the Midwest earlier in the year were much more peaceful.
And much more in sync with MLK than what is going on right now that are protesting against George Floyd.
So I am trying to spread the word that we need to elevate the conversation like MLK would.
And that is, we are all men and women that...
We are endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights that are enshrined in our Constitution.
I don't think Dr.
King, were he alive today, would be telling black people to go burn down black cities and black-owned businesses and all the things that they're doing.
I mean, that's insane.
And that's the big difference between Obama and MLK. Right there.
That contrast.
And it's important to show that contrast because MLK was trying to make a more perfect union like Abraham Lincoln said right after the Civil War, before he was assassinated.
But Obama, he's pushing this leftist Antifa thing.
Right.
We can learn something from the 1960s and MLK and how to peacefully protest this to elevate the conversation and look at the larger mosaic of the government overreach in so many different domains that we've been talking about today.
You know, you mentioned the word assassination, so I just have to mention, I mean, isn't it interesting?
Lincoln was assassinated.
Martin Luther King was assassinated.
I believe in conjunction with the corrupt deep state FBI, by the way, there's good evidence that points to that.
For example, the FBI wrote him a letter calling on him to commit suicide earlier, and the FBI did a lot of nefarious things at that time against black Americans.
Now they're doing it against Trump.
But also, President JFK was assassinated, of course.
And JFK, I think by today's standards, he would not be considered a left-wing person at all.
He'd probably be considered more like a Trump conservative today.
In that he believes in America, or believed in America, he was trying to solve problems, but the deep state didn't like JFK and what he was saying about how we should have an honest money system and things like that.
Clearly, JFK was assassinated, not by that lone gunman.
What a joke.
Even one of the most famous things that he says in his presidency, For JFK, ask not what the country can do for you, ask what you can do for the country.
That is not the Democratic Party today.
That is not.
Not at all.
Not at all.
So you're right.
There's something to be learned from the 60s and what was going on.
And that, in a strange way, you know, MLK and JFK, a lot of those speeches...
Could be parsed and applied to the Republican Party as a platform to try to move the country forward.
True, true.
I think the Democrat slogan today should be, ask not what your country can do for you, burn down the cities and demand reparations.
That's Democrats today.
That's not in the spirit of Dr.
King or JFK or Rosa Parks or any of the civil rights heroes of American history.
None of them would have extorted America and burning down cities and demanding blackmail money, basically.
This is a sad thing that's happening with the African communities in these urban settings.
They're being used by the Antifa-type movement to push an agenda to try to bring down this country.
The blacks are being used, unfortunately.
They're being used by the medical establishment pushing vaccines and all this and all that, you know.
We need to raise the conversation at a higher level and show this corruption is way, way beyond just one police officer killing George Floyd.
It's a much, much bigger issue here that involves lots of different races.
And lots of different constituencies.
But we are blessed with this technology that we're using, and if we use it correctly, we will be able to elevate the conversation in a peaceful manner and make things right for this country.
That's what's important, is to try to do positive social change and make a more perfect union.
You're absolutely right, Dr.
Cottrell.
And we've got to wrap this up today, a little bit shorter interview today.
I've got another one coming up shortly as well.
But I want to thank you for your thoughts on all of these issues.
You know, I find you to be a thoughtful person, very introspective, data-driven about all of this.
And just as I am, we're subject to changing our views based on new data, which is what's happening with this pandemic situation, by the way.
But the last thing I want to ask you is, you know, what would your message to our viewers be right now about how to help America heal from all these things that are happening?
Lockdowns, the economic damage, the racial division, you know, the cities burning.
How do we move forward with healing?
I mean, you're going to be a doctor.
You're in the business of healing.
How do we heal now?
Well, one is you have to be educated.
You have to get educated about the current events and have a clear mind.
Don't be pigeonholed into just thinking left or just thinking right.
Have your own opinion.
Get knowledgeable about what's going on.
And engage.
Don't just sit on the couch, but actually be an active participant in the arena for positive social change.
And if you're angry, it's understandable.
Believe me, I get angry too.
But it doesn't mean that I want to go and take a brick and destroy someone's business that's suffering, that's barely making it because of COVID-19, because they were shut down for three months.
That's not how you solve the problem.
So, we have to take risks.
We have to get out and reboot America, but also shine a light on these individuals that are perpetrating these negative externalities that we've been talking about, especially Fauci, or the leftist movement like Antifa, and start Trying to make America the better place it can be instead of constantly thinking negative.
But it's getting educated about the current events and being engaged, not just sitting on the couch.
You're absolutely right, and the more we do that then, the more that these efforts by the destroyers actually have a backlash of people waking up and demanding, you know, an end to the corruption and the fraud and the exploitation and the extortion and all those things.
The more we get educated, the more we can participate in the healing and the rebuilding of this nation.
Right.
And like the CNN types that are interviewing those protesters, you know, right now, they don't really understand why they're protesting.
They're reacting.
So when they're in front of a mic and they're asked, they look kind of idiotic.
But when they're more educated about why they're protesting, they start talking about the banking cartel and the forced vaccine program and the overreach by the HHS, then the conversation completely changes.
And that's why the protesters need to get educated on the subject matter and elevate the conversation.
So when that mic is in front of their face by the mainstream media, then our voice will be heard much louder.
Yeah.
I want to see a protester stealing an iPhone, and CNN asks them, why are you doing this?
And they say, because the Federal Reserve printed too much money, destroying the value of the dollars that we've worked to save.
That's what I want to see.
Right, right.
Exactly.
That would be an educated looter.
Right.
Okay.
Maybe we'll see if that happens.
Dr.
Cottrell, thank you for joining me today.
It's been just an enlightening, intriguing conversation, and we'll talk to you again soon.
Until then, stay safe in New York City.
Definitely.
Thank you.
All right, thank you.
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