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May 24, 2024 - The Leo Zagami Show
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The Origins of Secret Societies
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Thank you.
My goodness, what a rough start.
That's what happens when you try to do a live show on the fly.
Oh yes, you will be confronted with these sort of problems, but we prevailed and we move forward, and onward we go.
And yes, tonight will be a very special show.
We have Mr. Leo Zagami.
He's another guest on this program who really needs no introduction.
But for those who need one, he's a profound author and investigative journalist.
He's a wealth of knowledge and he's been a longtime guest here on the program.
We'd love that.
Now, without further ado, let's bring in Mr. Leo Zagami.
Oh, there he is.
What's going on, Leo?
Oh, great.
I mean, on my side, everything is fine.
It seems that it's on your side.
You have some kind of Mohammedan curse today, maybe.
I don't know.
There is something, yeah, something happened here.
A ghost in the machine of sorts, Leo, but regardless, I'm glad you're here.
It's always an honor and pleasure to share the air with you, my friend.
Absolutely, and we have a lot to discuss today, as I just published my new book, and actually you are the first show I'm doing to start promoting Volume 10 of My Confessions, which, as you know, it's a very important book, and also a book that Probably will create some reactions.
People will have to get ready for something special with this book because It's the first time that I'm actually discussing Islam in a very profound way.
And at the same time, the subject of secret societies, which, of course, emanate from the Middle East.
Because if today we discuss mostly the Western Freemasons or Illuminati, there will be no Western Freemasons or Illuminati without what happened in the Middle East.
Because, as you know, it all started there, between Egypt between what we now call Iraq, Iran, Syria, ancient Mesopotamia.
And of course, it's going to be a great show for all our listeners who want to know a little bit more about the subjects.
Absolutely.
And of course, I wanted to congratulate you for another anniversary.
And I say that because in America, marriages today don't last very long anymore.
Well, that's great that you mentioned that because our 10 year anniversary coincides also with my first year as an American.
I'm now an American citizen since March.
And so we have celebrated on the 1st of May also our wedding anniversary with Christy, who has, by the way, also edited in an extraordinary way this latest book.
And she, of course, is in charge of Curso Imperficio, which is our publishing company.
Very nice, very nice.
Well, I hope everything is going well for both of you out there, and I hope it's not too hot out there, Ambassador, for you.
The only thing that stops a little bit this crazy heat of ours is the wind, and we seem to have a lot of wind this year, so it's like having a little bit of a fan going on.
Right.
Of hot air blowing at you, though, unfortunately.
Not always hot.
I must say that we've been very lucky because, as you know, in the last year or two, we had a lot of rain, a lot of snow.
And this is this, I think, has changed a little bit the situation.
We had really a lot of rain.
There was a drought when I first arrived here in California, as you know.
And now instead, we have plenty of rain.
We got disconnected somehow.
Now we're back here.
I'm not sure why we are dropping in and out, but it seems like we're back now.
I'm sorry about that.
Okay, no worries.
Well, like I said, this is a very important book that, of course, will be debated and discussed for years to come.
I think it's my most important work to date.
I would like to introduce it, and I think that the people who are of course listening to us today will have at least a glance of what this book is all about.
Because, like I was saying earlier, a lot of researchers are focused on the Illuminati and Freemasonry all the time, but very few have focused on the roots And the roots of the Illuminati and Freemasonry bring us back, of course, every time to the Middle East.
So it's important, I think, for people to understand where all this evil also is coming from, in a way.
At times, also, we have been the beneficiaries of some of the knowledge that was brought to us from the Middle East.
So not everything has a negative connotation.
But it's very important also at the moment with this growing antisemitism that unfortunately is spreading throughout the college campuses in Europe and the United States to bring a book that in a way demonstrates with the clarity and with the evidence that there is no faction that can claim
the moral and the moral superiority over the other because it seems like all religions have been compromised in one way or another.
Right.
And so it's important to understand where and when these religions were compromised.
In this book, of course, I focus particularly on Islam, but there is, of course,
Discussions, and of course, evidence of all the collaboration that went on with the Western counterparts, because people don't understand, but aside from Freemasonry, which of course is born in, is formalized in Europe, Speculative Freemasonry in 1776, 1717, but it was
Then the Illuminati in 1776 that we always call, you know, the defaulters, the people who are in charge of everything without really knowing who these people are being inspired from and what kind of alliances have been going on for hundreds of years between the Islamic world and the Western world.
So this book is really trying to bring some clarity and I hope that People will find it an eye-opener that will benefit all of the people who, at the moment, are really not understanding this continuous tension in the Middle East, this growing threat of a Third World War which is expanding, because I think the Third World War has already started.
Right.
We are only waiting for its expansion.
And of course, the Middle East is like the pulsating center, the heartbeat of this third world war.
We have, of course, then another important war theater, which is Ukraine with Russia.
But this book also touches on certain
Elements that brought the end, for example, of the Russian Empire and also the antisemitism that came together with this sudden spread of literature, antisemitic literature that became very popular in the 19th century and that, of course, then saw
eventually the publication of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which is the ultimate anti-Semitic book, which has been mentioned even in the Manifesto of Hamas from 1988. which has been mentioned even in the Manifesto of Hamas But this book also wants to finally bring all those people who are always accusing, you know, we're always accusing the Jews of wrongdoing.
We're always accusing the Catholic Church of wrongdoing.
But, you know, I have discussed this subject for many, many years.
The Catholic Church has been infiltrated.
The Jesuits basically took control of it.
There was the Second Vatican Council that basically hijacked the whole church.
And then the Catholic Church eventually elected the Jesuit, which is Pope Francis, which himself though, has been participating in the making of the One World Religion with a specific imam.
The imam of Al-Azhar is basically, for the Muslim world, Al-Azhar is not only a university in Cairo, it's much more.
And the Al-Azhar mosque is, of course, a very important mosque.
But when we saw In early 2019, Hamad Al-Ta'ib creating this human fraternity document, which then developed in the even more masonically inclined Fratelli Tutti, which was published by the Pope in the middle and early phases of the pandemic.
Well, then we saw ample evidence that a one world religion is in the making and that the actual alliance between part of the Muslim world and the Pope was a key factor for this future one world religion.
So we saw later on the Pope later on in the pandemic going to Iraq to meet also with some of the most important Shiite representatives after he had sealed the deal with the Sunni world.
Now it's very important to hear that we understand where we're going in this interview so I can give you a clear idea because it's so much... there's a lot of complex subjects and that right yeah I just I just want to quickly say this topic is extremely controversial As are many of the topics you cover and I certainly hope you're protected in multiple ways, Leo.
I don't want you to get involved in like a Charlie Hebdo-like situation.
A firebombing of sorts, in other words.
Well, I can tell you that, of course, I know the risk that a book like this implies.
Yeah.
But at the same time, I've been very objective if you go through the book.
And yes, of course, my point of view is the point of view of somebody who has lived Islam from within, but who is also Christian, born Catholic.
And of course, I am a Christian today.
And for that reason, of course, some people will say he might not be objective.
I try to be as objective as possible.
And even my wife, when she was editing the book, she was very impressed about the way I was simply exposing all sides here.
Because The history of what I'm discussing in this book brings us to a lodge, a mysterious lodge in Cairo that not many people have discussed.
I think that actually very few researchers have discussed.
The last ones who discussed this topic was a hundred years ago.
People like Nesta Webster, These are the kind of people, but unfortunately, they were kind of biased at times in their approach.
So I'm talking about also Edith Miller, Edith Starr Miller, who is also a great author, but these are authors from 100 years ago.
In the last 100 years, nobody has discussed The history of this mysterious lodge in Cairo, which gave birth to the work that was then later carried on by Hassani Sabbah, the founder of the Order of Assassins.
It was the lodge which basically inspired the creation of the Druze, which is still a very important faith in the Middle East.
And many other factions sprang out of this mysterious lodge in Cairo that was developed during the very early years of the Fatimid dynasty.
Now, to explain to people who don't know Islam, how Islam developed, I started from chapter one, right from the birth of Muhammad.
So I could introduce the non-Muslims to these complex subjects and make them understand how important they are, because they inspired Freemasonry.
Freemasonry was actually inspired, speculative Freemasonry, very much by a mysterious brotherhood that all sprang up out of another important city in the Middle East that now is in ruins.
It's called Harran.
And there were two places that are very important, and I discuss in this book, that basically saw the Muslim Illuminati, the birth of the Muslim Illuminati.
Now, when I say the Muslim Illuminati, after Muhammad created his religion, his religion was initially His religion.
He created it.
So, of course, he appointed a successor, apparently, who became the first caliph.
But at the same time, his daughter married a cousin called Ali, who later on will become the fourth caliph.
Now, the problem is that then Between the first and the fourth caliphate, there was a lot of conflicts.
And immediately after the death of Muhammad, we start seeing the seeds of this turmoil that we still see today in the Middle East.
So that's why this book is important, I think also for Muslims, because Muslims have unjustly accused the West and Of course, Israel and the Jewish people have a conspiracy against them.
This conspiracy has become very popular in Islam, and in fact Islam and the Muslims have embraced the protocols of the elders of Zion from the very beginning, even if the first one who published This book in the Middle East was actually a Christian, a Maronite priest.
So the work that I try to do in this book is to explain to the Muslim world, as well as the Christian world, as well as the Jewish world, because we discuss also the Sabbatean Frankists.
Sabbatai Zevi, who in 1666 suddenly converted to Islam and had Most, I mean, he had the biggest following in the Jewish world that you can expect for somebody who actually was a self-proclaimed messiah.
And later on, of course, almost a century later, his legacy will be picked up by somebody who claimed to be his reincarnation with his followers who were actually converted to Catholicism in Poland and in contemporary Ukraine.
He was actually born in Ukraine, a guy called Jacob Frank.
So, when I, when we talk nowadays about Gaza, for example, people don't really know the history of Gaza.
Do they know that basically what they're seeing now, what the Jews are, what they're seeing basically the Jews doing now, It's what Saladin was doing in his time against the civilian population that unfortunately was living there.
And there was, of course, a fortress there of the Knights Templar that was one of the most important bases together with, of course, Temple Mount, which is another story altogether, because also the Muslims arrived there.
And this, of course, during the first years of the spread of Islam.
But when they arrived there, Muhammad was already dead for five years, basically.
But they still created a very elaborate story of Muhammad, who somehow dreamt he would be flown on this winged creature.
All the way to the Temple Mount, and there he ascended to heaven, all this BS, when in reality, in reality, Muhammad was dead already.
There was his disciple, of course, who conquered Jerusalem, and later on they built, of course, what we have now on Temple Mount.
But this whole story behind
The foundations of the Al-Aqsa Mosque, which is considered so important within Islam, and of course the whole area there with the Dome of the Rock at the center of the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound, it is based on geopolitical more than religious reasons.
Religion is used and abused by people.
The Knights Templars then arrived in Jerusalem later on, and they will, of course, create their own base on Temple Mount.
Remember, it's called Temple Mount because it used to be the site where the second temple was built.
So the temples that, of course, are seen like part of also the Jewish legacy.
policy.
So in my work as an author, I wanted to explain how we got to jihadism and how we got to the Crusades.
Because people don't know anything about the roots of this.
Oh, no, not at all.
Not in the Western world.
Now, the concept of rebat.
People don't even know what this concept is nowadays in the Western world, but this is what really inspired later on the Crusades.
People don't know that the Crusades were paradoxically inspired by Islam, and the Islamic people today are always talking about the Westerners being crusaders without really understanding their own history.
The word ribat, which I talk about in the book, is the voluntary defense of Islam.
This word is actually very popular today amongst jihadi groups like Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and all the various Salafi jihadists.
Also, we should explain what is Salafi jihadism and Salafism, which in my book I show how the very roots of The Salafi movement are actually from a guy who was an Illuminati and a friend of Madame Blavatsky.
This will shock many people in the Islamic world, who are always there pointing their finger at the West.
But guys, just go and study the history of Jamal al-Din al-Afghani.
Just go and study the history of your own Freemasons in the Muslim world, and you will understand that you have equal, if not even more, responsibility The Western people.
It's pretty crazy.
And you know, I'm looking forward to reading the whole book.
I've only read a few things online here.
And from where I'm, where I've been reading, where I'm, where it's headed, in my opinion, you know, I vaguely have known about this connection between Islam and Satan.
And it's another one of those, or, yeah, I should say that's one of these conundrums of sorts, Leo.
Here, you see, the connection is, I'm saying, The problem here is that nobody wants to offend anybody.
I want to bring you the facts, okay?
Now, when, for example, we have somebody who has definitely sacrificed a lot for what he did, the author of the Satanic Verses, I think, Salman Rushdie, has recently sacrificed his own eye to bring A novel which is inspired by a true story.
There was in the Quran some verses that were deemed satanic in the very early years of Islam by the Muslims themselves.
Why?
Because it was said that Muhammad was satanically inspired in writing these verses which actually talk about the goddesses which were The three goddesses which were worshipped in Mecca.
You have to understand that Mecca was a place of pagan worship like no other in the Middle East before Islam came around.
There were 360 idols worshipped in Mecca.
I mean, it's like 360 idols seems even more than what we have in the Roman Pantheon.
Much more than what we have in the Roman Pantheon.
Okay, so this problem here, I noticed, first of all, this book, I want people to understand, is the result not only of years and years of study, but also of personal experiences in the Middle East, in Turkey.
It's not just, you know, somebody sitting down and starting to talk about this and this other conspiracy.
I was in it.
So I was in it, and I end up having a child with a descendant of Prophet Muhammad.
And this experience, unfortunately, is pretty shocking for people who don't know my work.
They should read about this whole thing in my book, also because it ends up with the stepfather of my son, who I never spoke to.
I never saw after 2008.
Right.
That's one thing we briefly discussed here, your son.
Yes.
But in this book, I finally revealed that his stepfather is one of the senior members of the World Economic Forum.
Oh, how interesting.
And so, and I show the evidence for it.
So, it can't be debunked.
See, the problem that the Muslim world will have with this book is that it can't be debunked.
That's why it's already number one in the Amazon books for Islamic social studies.
It's already number one?
Yeah.
Wow, that was fast.
So, this is because this book It's built on facts, it's not built on speculation, and wherever there is a speculation, I always point out the source and I debate it accordingly.
Otherwise, when it comes down to, for example, the roots of Islam in the Christian world, because the roots of Islam are in the Christian world, and people will be like, how come?
Was Muhammad a Christian?
Well, Muhammad learned about God through the cousin of his first wife Khadija, who was an Orthodox Christian.
And for that reason, we have also that whole thing that I talked about in my book about Alberto Rivera, no?
You remember?
Alleged Jesuit, which appeared in the works of the religious cartoonist Jack Sheik, which basically had that famous... He created six comics based on the work of Alberto Rivera, and I think the most controversial is always the one called The Prophet, published in 1988.
Absolutely, yeah.
And that book reveals that, allegedly, the Vatican was behind the creation of Islam.
This is what I read.
Now, I explained how certain things were true.
There was actually Muhammad's first wife, Khadija bint Kubalid, who he said was a Catholic nun in an Arabian monastery.
But in reality, the evidence that we have, at least, that is possible to accede to, directs to the fact that the cousin was a Christian.
And this is already a fact that the Muslims tend to not want to discuss.
A little bit like when the Muslims criticized Freemasonry, for example, and they even went as far as bombing a lodge in Istanbul.
They criticize Freemasonry, but then they don't criticize the Muslims, very important Muslims in the Muslim world who are Freemasons.
They seem to forget about them.
Well, let me just quickly say this really quickly for everyone out there and for you yourself, Leo.
From my own research and reading books and articles online and also talking about this with a few Muslims, what you're talking about here and referring to also the satanic verses, this is almost something nearly impossible to get a Muslim to talk about with you.
As a complete outsider and I will say this most religious people I've come across have always been incredibly kind to me including the Muslims and I respect everyone's religious beliefs even though I'm agnostic personally but you know I do believe there is a God at times and What that God is, I can't really prove it or know exactly what that is, to be honest with you.
And, you know, I hope you're sitting down for this, boys and girls, and I know we just kind of mentioned this, but it is pretty controversial to say what I'm about to say, but there is unequivocal evidence that Catholicism and Islam are virtually the same.
I will not go as far as that.
Not virtually the same, but there's a lot of… No, I tell you why.
Did I go too far?
You went too far.
Why?
Because in that part of the Middle East, the actual Christians that we call Catholics, at that point of history when Mohammed came up with his revelation that was channeled in the Koran, It was in the hands of the Orthodox, basically, of the future Orthodox.
It was, okay, let's say that, you know, that Christianity was born as a unified creed, but then later on it went through a whole transformation.
Right.
And at one point, of course, we had a split, but the most ancient form of Christianity, for example, still today doesn't recognize the Vatican.
I'm talking, for example, about the Coptic Church.
And when it comes down to the Eastern Orthodox Church, because that is really what, I mean, we are talking about a very important faith.
Today is the second largest Christian, largest Christian group in the world.
But very few people at times know why we got to the Eastern Orthodox Church from a unified Christian church.
They were, as you know, Some councils that took place, there was some controversy, you know, the New Testament was accepted in a certain way in the Byzantine Empire.
And that's why when it comes down to saying, of course, at the time of Mohammed, we still have rather unified Christian Church worldwide.
Having said that, already it wasn't so unified, because you had the Oriental Orthodox Christians in Egypt, in Ethiopia, in Eritrea, in Syria, in Turkey, in Armenia, which were acting in a different way.
Their doctrine is different.
You see, You have to distinguish then, and that's why saying Catholic is a little bit pushing it too far.
Maybe a little too far.
By the way, Leo, there is a caller on the line.
I'm not sure if you want to take this call yet.
Well, let's take a call.
No problem.
Let's just jump in there really quickly here.
Caller, you are on the line.
Go ahead.
Hello.
Leo, I have a question for you.
I was wondering, are you familiar with Amon Hillman's research.
Can you repeat the name?
Sorry?
Amon Hillman's research.
He's a Greek linguist that he researches old Greek texts that go back way before the Hebrew language into Jesus and how the Bible came to be.
Very interesting.
Very interesting.
Like I said, the Bible came to be also because of the Council of Nicaea, you know, the first council in 325 that declared that Jesus Christ was basically the Son of God, was God.
But at the same time, we had also other councils that took place later on.
And then the church started, you know, the Oriental churches started to break from that, from certain ideas, and they created their own churches, which are basically not in communion with Rome.
At times, of course, this was also moved by political reasons, but it's also moved by the fact that there were some beliefs that were kept maybe in the Orthodox Church, and they were taken away in the Catholic Church. and they were taken away in the Catholic Church.
Today, the way Pope Francis is trying to include part of the Orthodox world, we see that, for example, The Patriarch Bartholomew, so part of the Orthodox world, has joined him in this effort.
But we see then, for example, the Orthodox Church in Moscow is completely still separated because the Orthodox Church in Russia seems to be a state religion.
And so it works accordingly to their own also political view.
We saw in fact how Ukraine has eliminated immediately this connection with Russia by a time forcibly removing monks from monasteries and closing them down and all kinds of ridiculous things like changing even the date of Christmas for the Orthodox is of course
a later Christmas, never really on the 25th of December that, by the way, is built also on some pagan roots, this belief of having it on the 25th of December.
So, I think that nowadays we have, of course, a series of ecumenical relations, but we have, when it comes down to the Orthodox Church, it's the Post Council of Chalcedon in 450 that started to create something different.
And there was, of course, the Alexandria of Egypt, which was fueled with the Gnostic heresies.
We have also the Gnostic heresies that were very relevant in early Christianity.
And some of the of the elements of that were actually some of the, like docetism, for example, was picked up from the Gnostics by Islam.
Islam says that Jesus didn't go on the cross, suddenly, because they will not accept a prophet crucified.
But in my book, I also show An archaeological finding of incredible proportions that I'm glad to present to the American public for the first time, that was given to me by the late Gabriele Mandel Kahn, who was the head of the Sufi Jiraiya al-Baiti.
This was found in a Templar church, apparently in Turkey, between Turkey and Syria.
This Templar church, they found this cross with the image of Mohammed and apparently this cross is the origin of the word Baphomet.
When we say Baphomet today, we connect it to Aleister Crowley, to Satanism and all that nonsense.
Especially because it was Eliphas Levi, the guy who invented the word occult, who then created that image that nowadays the satanic temple parades across the Capitol Hills here in the United States.
But the word Baphomet is actually connected to Muhammad.
And The secret worship that the Shia Muslims, the Nizari, who gave birth to the Order of the Assassins with Hassan-i Sabbah, that came from that lodge in Cairo, and this cross is not showed and presented to the Muslim world In the English language, because it will create problems.
He gave me the photo and everything, and I had the permission from the, he's now dead, Gabriele Mandelcana.
He strangely died.
And that's in the book, by the way.
Yes.
He strangely died soon after he gave me this cross of Mohammed, because it was left in a depot and it's still there in Istanbul.
Wow.
And they don't show it because it will create controversy in the Muslim world.
The Muslim world will not accept the fact that, first of all, Mohammed is represented.
Well, Leo, your book is going to cause quite a disturbance with the Muslim world now.
Well, you see, I bring out facts, and I bring them out with knowledge.
So they will come at me, but they will have to be ready to come at me with some proper people.
I mean, because apart from the fact that I'm not scared of anybody, you know, I've been fighting the mafia in Italy.
I just I just worry about I just worry about everyone with with this topic here.
Go ahead.
In this book, I show, you know, but in this book, I also show how the very origins of the word mafia is connected to Islam.
We always talk about Mazzini, Autorizza, Furtin, Cendi, Assassini.
We always talk about this acronym.
We also talk about the fact that the Freemason is connected, of course, to the birth of the Mafia.
But the Mafia in Sicily arrives during the reign of this Muslim reign that lasted several centuries in Sicily and the tribe which basically was operating in Palermo, the Mafia tribe.
What they were doing was this.
Basically, the Arabic roots of the word mafia include mafi, which means exempted as in Islamic law, meaning that you pay a certain amount of money to be exempted from prosecution.
What does the mafia do?
The mafia goes to your shop and says, you have to pay.
That is the first practice of the Mafia.
Nowadays, of course, the Mafia is known for international drug deals.
Bit of a shakedown, in other words.
By the way, hold on really quickly.
Caller, are you, are you still there?
I'm sorry about that.
Are you, are you still alive?
Yeah, I'm still here.
I'm just, I don't want to interrupt.
I have another question for Leo.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
And then we'll talk to you later.
Go ahead.
Leo, are you familiar with Madea?
Medea, you mean the religion?
Madea, the person that supposedly started the drugs and started medicine.
Okay.
No, because Madea, I mean, it can be very many things.
It can be an aromatic set of herbs.
It can be many things.
So I would like it to be a little bit focused on what you are telling me here.
I mean, Madea.
What happens is this.
In the golden age of Islam, Islam gave us a lot of things.
I mean, Islam gave us the possibility of, for example, bringing us back a lot of the knowledge that was almost lost from ancient Greece.
And at the same time, their own subjects, some of them that were very active in the universities, there were two important universities in the Muslim world back then that fought against each other.
And they were For dominance, I mean, knowledge.
But most of the knowledge we have today, including algorithms, algebra, everything that comes from the Muslim world, sprang out of these two centers, especially the one in Baghdad.
So when you say, Madia, I mean, I would like to know exactly what you mean.
Well, supposedly, one of the questions I had is, there's a drug that was called the purple Okay.
Back in the Greek language.
Because it's actually a genus of, I mean, it is aromatic herbs.
It is part of, it's like a medicine.
Madia sativa also, the genus.
So please, please continue.
So what it links to is, from what Eamon Hillman said, I need to go here, but his Readings of the Greek language claims that the disciples were all underage children.
They were never old men, whatever, wise men, whatever.
And when Jesus was caught in the park, he was caught with a little boy.
And first thing he said when he was caught by the Romans, whatever police you would call them, whatever they were called, is that, I'm not a sex trafficker.
I never heard of this one.
It would be pretty insulting, I think, to all Christians.
But I think that there is a lot of insults that can be also made.
Well, I'm not making insults.
I'm just saying what Well, he claims from being, he's a doctor that has graduated from... I mean, here, for example, here we don't focus, I mean, I focus, I mentioned that, you know, the whole controversy about their underage wife of Mohammed, that we have all that going on.
Here we have to be objective.
We have to really bring facts and not hypotheses that can't be proven.
So I tend to focus, at least on my work, on things that I have ample evidence to assert.
Right.
It's a bit murky waters, in other words.
Now, for example, when it comes to Jesus, the Shiite in the approximately 15th century They started with a whole disinfo operation which then ended up with the creation of an alleged gospel, the Gospel of Barnabas.
Now, for example, the Gospel of Barnabas is a non-canonical gospel written probably by a Shiite Muslim, and this gospel asserts that basically Jesus at one point announced The future arrival of Mohammed.
You understand that this is completely a blasphemous idea, to say the least.
There is blasphemous ideas that circulate, but I at least tend to focus on the ones that have at least some... or at least, when it comes to the Gospel of Barnabas, I wanted to cite it because often the Muslims use this Gospel of Barnabas to say to Christians, listen, Jesus said that... and there is actually parts also of the Quran in which it seems like Jesus is announcing the arrival of this greatest prophet of all time.
Imagine that Mohammed arrives to a level for the Muslims that he can't even come down to earth for the final judgment and for the end times.
It's Jesus who actually comes back, not Muhammad.
So, this passage, for example, of the Gospel of Barnabas, that seems really in accordance with the 61st chapter Surah of the Quran, It's basically depicting Jesus as a forerunner of Mohammed.
But that is complete disinformation.
It was, like I said, it was created many, many years after the arrival of the 15th century.
So, I mean, a long time after Jesus was living on earth.
And at the same time, a long time after Mohammed announced his fate.
You see, the problem with Islam Is that because there wasn't a central authority of any kind, and because it became immediately evident that even within the family of the Prophet, there was in fights, it started becoming a schismatic religion, giving birth to all kinds of things.
Even religions that nowadays are not even connected to Islam, but were originally born out of Islam.
So, I hope that this made it clear.
I mean, we can assert many things about Jesus, but the evidence that I found myself when I went into the Middle East, in Egypt, I was guested by the Coptic Church.
I made a lot of research there.
Of course, Jesus, which is not totally the Jesus that came out of the Council of Nicaea.
There is some elements that were eliminated, but there were never bad elements or cover-ups of human trafficking or other kinds of things, absolutely.
And they were more to do with the fact that, of course, the way they portrayed and they crafted Jesus was to be, in a way, instrumental to the use they were doing within the Roman Empire once it became the religion of the empire.
And so that's just what I have to say here.
- Right, right, right. - The assertion, I find it completely outrageous. - Amazing stuff there.
And by the way, just to add on to this conversation, just to set the record straight, you know, I've always been under that impression during those times, men were getting married to really young women.
I know, I know, I know.
But it's, I mean, when it comes down to... Was that really happening though?
Well, it happened with Mohammed and it's pretty scandalous, but it happens all the time still nowadays.
Well, nowadays, yes.
Within the Islamic world, with the girl brides phenomenon.
Yeah, 11-year-old girl brides out there.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's despicable and it's absolutely outrageous.
Well, that leads me to believe that that's been going on for the longest time since the dawn of time.
If the wrong thing goes on, if man was still behaving like in the caves, we will not be proceeding and evolving as a human species.
Oh, I agree.
I agree.
So, I mean, you can say whatever you want, but I mean, I don't find it the correct thing.
I think that it is part of a culture that unfortunately lives in a primitive way.
I just feel like we're still quite primitive, and people were acting wild even back then.
Absolutely.
I want to say a couple things here.
Oh, go ahead, Leo.
No, regarding what you said now, because I think At least our caller was very decent, very polite, and he actually made a couple of questions.
Yeah, thanks caller for the call, by the way.
He's still here.
Thank you, my friend.
Yes, but when it comes down to Islam, I explain in this book How this religion was then instrumentally used by the people who colonized the world.
And the people who colonized the world were the same people we told to fuck off in 1776, the Brits.
Great Britain.
Great Britain is enormously responsible for whatever is going on nowadays in the Middle East.
And it's sad because unfortunately people are brought into this chaos situation, which basically is born out of a typical divide et impera.
Divide et impera is divide and conquer.
And the Brits, I'm half English, so I know this quite well how they operate.
I mean, I had relatives a hundred years ago who were working in the intelligence in Cairo in the Middle East.
So, I mean, I'm talking about personal experience.
Yeah, you've been around all these people, these sort of cultures and everything, so it's not like you just read about it.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And so, when it comes down to the divide and rule policy, It is basically the exploitation of existing divisions, and this is what I also explain in my book, and this is something that was taught to me by Licio Gelli, the late Licio Gelli, worshipful master of the P2 Lodge, and is something I also cited in Volume 3 of my confession, but I brought back with more
More emphasis and more interesting elements in Volume 10.
Alicia Jelley said that the way the Crusaders, the Templars, were capable of maintaining their control in the Middle East was simply by exploiting the existing divisions within Islam.
We talked earlier about the fact that Islam was born unified, just like Christianity, but on the contrary of Christianity that was actually facing heresies of enormous proportions that were fought, and rightly so, because when the Gnostics were spreading some of their heresies, they had nothing to do with Jesus' teaching.
They had to do with the Illuminati.
The Gnostics were the Illuminati of 2,000 years ago.
This is explained also in Volume 9 of my Confessions.
I have a whole chapter there also dedicated to how Adam Beishap was influenced by the Gnostic.
But in this book, for example, in Volume 10, I explain how Adam Beishap was influenced also by the Zoroastrians, just as the early Islamic Illuminati.
You see, when I said Islamic Illuminati, it's not really only Islamic, because When Islam expanded, do you think that the castes that preceded Islam ceased to exist?
No.
Of course not, yeah.
Okay, and if they existed though under Islam, they had to exist in a covert way, and that gave birth to a bunch of secret societies.
So when we say the birth of secret societies in the Middle East, why they were so covert?
Why they were secretive?
Well, When it comes, for example, to the early stages of Sufism, it sprang out of the Shiite faction of Islam, because when the Shiite faction of Islam started to expand, it expanded covertly initially, especially because the Sunni were the majority.
But then later on, the Shiite became, for a For a period of three centuries, let's say, two or three centuries, a very influential, if not the most influential faction, with the rise of the Fatimid dynasty in Cairo.
Now, this Fatimid dynasty gave birth and formalized the lodge That of course pre-existed Islam in Cairo, because we know that the knowledge goes all the way back to ancient Egypt, Memphis, Alexandria.
And the Cairo Lodge had a lot of knowledge.
But then there was another group of Middle Eastern Illuminati that sprang out of the Sabian of Aran.
They gave birth to a group called the Brethren of Purity.
This was a secret society of Muslim Illuminati philosophers based in Basra, in Iraq, in the 9th, 10th century.
And they preserved, basically, the ancient teaching of Hermeticism, which some researchers basically believed gave birth to Egyptian Freemasonry and also to parts of Speculative Freemasonry at large.
So, this is discussed by the Belgian philosopher, for example, and esoterist, Emile Dantin, who was a very important, also, Rosicrucian.
And he stated that the Rosicrucians may have found their secrets among the brethren of purity.
So here we go back with, you know, we have always been discussing, up until now, the Illuminati as a concept born in Germany.
The Rosicrucians are born in Germany.
Everything that really deteriorated later on was born in Germany.
Communists, Nazis.
All the evil of the world, of the Western world, can be clearly, but also all the great, you know, there is also some great knowledge, some great things, of course.
I'm not saying that everything that came out of Germany was completely evil, but I wanted, in this book, to get people to understand.
The Rosicrucians, for example, when they started talking about the elementals, and the elementals are these creatures, these invisible beings that, of course, they were connected to Paracelsus, we think of, you know, wow, these are really, they were up to something.
But where is this knowledge coming from?
When we studied the Rosicrucian Manifestos, we learned that it comes from the Middle East, and it comes from Islam.
It comes from Fez, from the city of Fez, some of this knowledge.
The allegorical journey of Christian Rosenkreuz is a very important journey for the initiates in the Western world.
And at times, when we talk about the Rosicrucian Manifestos, because of their criticisms towards Mohammed and towards the Protestants, of course, I mean, there was a threat even at that time, an invasion that could take place any moment of Europe by these forces.
And of course, the Christians were tending to.
to say that.
But then when you go in between the lines, and you understand that the knowledge comes from there, you are like a little bit puzzled.
Because yes, you might criticize Mohammed, but then you are basically embracing all the concept and knowledge that comes from the Islamic world.
But this is not only the Islamic world here, because when you talk about Haram, Haram was really the city of greatest importance for the Illuminati in the Middle East.
After Cairo, I would say that Tehran is the chief seat of Illuminati teaching.
And why is that?
Because they were the ones who kept this knowledge and managed to keep this knowledge when the Muslims, the Islamic invaders arrived there.
And you know that they were converting by the sword.
So if you didn't convert, they would cut your head off, no?
The Iranians were very clever in managing to not get persecuted because they knew the Koran.
They knew that basically in the Koran, Muhammad had talked about Some religions that had to be accepted, they couldn't be, you know, the pre-existing religions like the Jews, the Christians, they might be hated, but they were pre-existing.
So they were recognized.
Now, the Iranians, when basically the caliph Al-Mamun of Baghdad arrived there and said, so what is your religion?
They consulted with a lawyer.
Imagine, these were very clever people.
Really?
Yeah, as a way to escape the persecution.
And the lawyer in turn consulted the Quran, 359, that made it clear that Islam tolerated Christian Jews and Sabians.
Now, nobody really knew what the hell was Mohammed talking about when he was saying Sabians.
So this guy said, we are Sabians.
At that point, they had to back off.
And at that point, they said, what is your holy book?
And that's how the Iranian pagans, who had preserved all the knowledge of ancient Egypt and Greece, especially and particularly the knowledge from ancient Greece, but also of Alexandria, you know, I mean, Alexandria was the place where there was this melting pot of East and West and great knowledge.
The Iranian pagans basically called themselves Sabian, so to get away from being forcefully converted to Islam.
And they managed.
And in that way, they managed to preserve all the Hermetica that would later be transmitted to Europe during the Renaissance.
So they asked, who is your prophet?
And they said, Hermes.
So they The actual hermetic gnosis at the very heart of Eastern and Western intellectual circles, and of course, Freemasons, Rosicrucians, and everybody's all hermeticism.
Everybody's talking about it.
But how did hermeticism survive?
If, for example, this guy had said the wrong thing, they would have burned all the texts.
We would have had nothing from that Greek era.
Which included, by the way, also all the philosophers, Aristotle, Plato.
So it's quite incredible what happened in Iran.
Iran was a very ancient place, a very ancient culture, and the seat of the Middle East, the main seat of the Middle Eastern Illuminati.
Their knowledge would then be transmitted also to the Cairo Lodge.
So Iran I mean, here we're talking about 25 centuries before the arrival of Jesus Christ.
They were a Sumerian city, and they were basically a city created as a merchant colony by the city, the famous city of Ur.
And Aran grew rapidly because of these merchants, because of their location, and grew rapidly as a religious center for a very important goddess, the moon god, Nana, later known as Sin.
This is very important, this Nana Sin, because then this is the goddess of the crescent moon, which represents Islam.
Right.
And you see that in Catholicism as well.
And you see it in part of Catholicism, of course, because let's not forget that the Jesuits embraced completely Isis.
And there was, of course, a great appreciation for Egypt, ancient Egypt, and its knowledge.
And that's why then But at the same time, in the very early stages of Christianity, the Isis cult was very powerful across the empire.
You couldn't just eliminate it.
So the places of worship were replaced with the cult of the Black Mary.
So the nun, later known as Sin, it's also a very important element in the very early stages of Islam.
That's why we go back to those famous satanic verses that unfortunately Salman Rushdie kind of touched and sent the Ayatollah furious in Iran who eventually gave a fatwa.
In this book of mine, by the way, Compressions of the Illuminati Volume 10, as we still have some time but not so much, I discuss also the very origins of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
I explained how there were some direct connections with secret societies, sects, that basically operated like the Order of the Hashashins.
Because the Order of the Hashashins was born within the Shiite world, but then later on in the last, let's say, two centuries, three centuries, The Western world used the Masonic lodges, especially in Egypt, to then create the basis for what became Salafi Jihadism within the Sunni world.
The Sunni world was rather peaceful, very peaceful at one point.
Not peaceful, of course, at the time of Saladin.
or the Sejur Turks that were expanding their future Ottoman Empire, that later on became also the expansion of the Ottoman Empire.
That is, of course, but we have to understand that the way the Western world understands, for example, 9-11 is completely wrong, because they simply don't have the cultural basis to understand.
That's why in this book I try to explain How the jihadists were actually created originally.
You know, there was no violent jihad until the Order of Assassins came along with Hassan Nisaba.
Right.
And by the way, just for the record really quickly here, what exactly do you think happened that morning on Tuesday?
Like I said in this book, and I wrote in this book, I explained it, of course, it's a mega ritual, but it's an inside out job.
It's not an inside job.
What do you mean, inside out?
It would not have been possible without those mercenaries recruited in the Islamic world.
It would not be possible without that ancient alliance, secret alliance, that started between the Knights Templar and the Order of Assassins to kill their Sunni counterparts.
When the Nice Tempers needed to rule the Middle East, they needed to kill a lot of Sunni people, but they couldn't kill them directly, because that would have created a very bad name for them.
Right, that would not help.
No.
So they employed the Shiite Nizari assassins, who were the number one enemy of the Sunni, Who saw their own fortresses and stuff threatened by the Sunni.
Eventually they will be eliminated.
Eventually they will be eliminated, but not by Saladin, not by anybody within the Muslim world.
They will be eliminated by Genghis Khan and the Mongols.
But having said that, they were not completely eliminated.
They made an alliance that lasted to this day with the Knights Templars.
And who are the modern Knights Templars?
The Freemasons, George Bush, W. Bush's father, who has a very strong connection also with the Wahhabi world.
In my book I explain the birth of the Wahhabi world, which is basically born out of Salafism.
So it's all connected.
But the simplistic view, oh, the Jews did 9-11.
Oh, this group did not.
No, it's a bit more complex than that.
Right.
As it usually is.
It's very, very complex.
And I think with this book, finally, even the average Joe will finally know what the Middle East is all about.
Right.
And I suggest this book, especially for those people who have served in the Middle East, who are still serving in the Middle East, who are still being played By the military-industrial complex in this theater of war, which is obviously never gonna bring anything positive.
And it's part, of course, of an eternal conflict, which is manipulated by both the Middle Eastern Illuminati elite, but also, of course, the Western Illuminati elite.
Sure, and with everything going on right now, and of course, all your research and studying through all the years, That you've been doing this, Leo.
What exactly is sort of your prediction or sort of broad view of what's going on right now in the East?
And I guess we could even throw in Russia for that since we are kind of coming to a close here.
What exactly do you see coming soon here down the road?
Well, unfortunately nothing good.
Nothing good.
Nothing good, because everybody's being played on all sides.
And the never ending war is part of, you know, very old William vision.
George Orwell, I think, described how these wars have to be never ending in his 1984, which is rather prophetic.
So there is nothing really positive in the immediate But of course, there will be a moment of realization of everything we are talking about now.
A moment of realization on both sides, on all sides, because not only two sides, it's three sides.
We have the Jews, of course, we have the Christian Orthodox Russia.
We have the Protestant and Catholic world.
We have also Many people who belong to non-Abrahamic religions in other parts of the world.
But it seems like the end time scenario is manifesting, of course.
It seems like it, right?
Yes, absolutely.
And that's why with this book, finally, we can understand really how things are being played.
And the Illuminati and the Freemasons You know, some of them might even have good intentions, but the people who today are part of the most known, for example, think tank of the Illuminati, organization of the Illuminati, like the World Economic Forum.
Well, that is, as you know, I wrote a whole book, Volume 7, about how the whole Great Reset has actually occult roots.
And actually roots also deep, very deep in the Vatican.
So the Vatican, when we talk about the Vatican, we need to understand the Vatican is the seat of that old imperial Roman power that hasn't ceased to exist.
It has simply evolved and adapted.
When it comes to Russia, Russia at the moment with China is carrying on what they call the Sino-Russian World Order.
In this book, I explain how Russia, but especially also, I mean, Russia has definitely a lot to do with everything because they are behind the publishing of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Let's not forget that these protocols inspired Adolf Hitler's Holocaust.
Let's not forget that.
They seem to be very busy lately.
And let's not forget that the Tsar of Russia ended up, his life, together with his whole family, probably whatever, they were melted in acid or whatever, they were killed and of course brutally executed and then made to disappear.
Why?
Because they fall into a diabolical trap.
They published and actually supported openly the publication of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
And at the same time, the Bolsheviks, which were also Sabbatean Jews, Sabbatean Frankish Jews, that is important to understand.
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion are a A big tool of misinformation when you don't understand them, because in reality you could simply reinterpret them as the protocols of the Sabbatean elders of Zion, and you will have everything clear.
Gaza was the holy city of the Sabbateans.
Nathan of Gaza was the prophet of Sabbatei Zevi.
The first ritual orgy was conducted to welcome the new Messiah in Gaza.
Gaza is a cursed place.
So, and where was Djago Frank born?
In Ukraine.
Where was Madame Blavatsky born?
In Ukraine, in Dnipro.
These are cursed places.
It seems pretty cursed, yeah.
All of it seems rather rather cursed and that's where the conundrum comes in when I was talking about it in the beginning of this conversation.
It all goes back to what you talked about in your book CyberSaiyan.
That's basically what's been unfolding lots of Pretty obvious examples we could go into, but I was going to quickly mention, Leo, this whole conundrum really about religion.
It always seems, no matter what religion it is, it always seems to be corrupted by some sort of weird satanic element and there's always some sort of pedophilia involved and of course all of it was exposed.
I mean we could even use someone like Father Malachi Maran going back to the 90s to expose a lot of these sort of sexual rituals and All these strange things going on and we see it with all these groups and with Colts as well.
I'm just curious.
How does that element even spring up so often?
If you could take a wild guess.
Well, I mean, it's the most evil thing you can do.
It's the pure energy of evil that they're after, you know?
So, I mean, like Alistair Crowley teaches in his Occult Teachings, I mean, when you come to the rape, especially of children, we are talking about some pretty evil energy that emanates from those churches in which these rapes are conducted by these priests, but at the same time, We have the Islamic pedophiles who are also marrying directly with their victims.
That's even more far out.
Listen, I think that it's clear that in this end time scenario, we need to become aware of all these things.
And we can't simply blame one faction.
We simply have to stay What Jesus would have wanted, that we are all sinners.
But after that, of course, if you continue to sin, well, then that's diabolical.
That makes you a tool of Satan.
Yeah, that makes you evil at that point.
That makes you a tool of Satan.
Cyber-Satan that you mentioned earlier was basically a product of the genie that was let out of the bottle in the Islamic world.
Because algorithm is a word that comes from an Islamic guy that basically created... You talk about that in one of your recent articles on your website over at LeoZagami.com, by the way.
Not only that, I actually, in my book, I explain very much... Oh, you go further?
Yeah, much further.
And I go also further in relation to To Nefertiti, the wife of Akhenaten, which is described by the Gnostic as a Gnostic moose.
And that, of course, that is also a very important element.
But I don't want to give out too much.
No worries.
No worries.
This is connected, of course, also to the humanoid robot named Sophia.
Sophia, I mean, that should be pretty indicative of why they gave her also a Saudi Arabian citizenship.
So, I mean, that is It's pretty clear, no?
The word algorithm was derived by Muhammad al-Kazrimi, Kamarizmi, whatever his name is, that was the father also of algebra.
So, I mean, certain things that came out of the bottle, the genie of the bottle, might have been positive.
Otherwise, we would not be talking today, now.
I agree.
That's very interesting.
The House of Wisdom in Baghdad, that was eventually destroyed by the Mongols, was the birthplace of a very important knowledge center for the Illuminati, just as also the House of Knowledge in Cairo, that still, in a way, continues and strives.
Today, when everybody, for example, I'll just make an example, then of course we end up, but today, when We discuss the crisis in Gaza.
We always hear the head of the Mossad, the head of Shin Bet, the head of the CIA.
Where do they all go to have their meetings?
In Cairo.
Read this book and you will understand why.
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, get the book over at leonzogami.com or at Amazon.
I'm sure you could easily find it.
And by the way, that deep fake video is pretty good by the way.
Which one?
The one from Harvest News.
Ah, yes, that is my latest article, which of course I then merged in with the latest book I wrote, because of course my book explains everything about the origins of ISIS, of Al-Qaeda, and all this Salafi-Jihadist group, and of course the very concept of Salafi-Jihadism.
You see, all these names, everything is so complex for the Western world, so I wanted to simplify and make a book that could finally open the minds of the American people, of the people who speak English around the world, of the Anglo-Saxon world, let's say, because they have a lot of responsibility.
They have a lot of responsibility.
And so it's important to finally make them understand Islamic Freemasonry and the Seeker Societies Behind Eternal Conflict in the Middle East.
This is the title of Confessions of the Illuminati, Volume 10.
is something that will make you smarter and will finally make you realize what's really going on in the Middle East without, you know, I side with the Palestinians.
Oh, I side with the Jews.
I side with this.
I side with that.
But in reality, you are simply being brought out for a ride by the usual suspects.
I agree.
100% no argument from me Thank you so much, Leo, for being a part of the program.
Of course, the book is Confessions of an Illuminati.
Volume 10, by the way.
That's 10 books in this saga.
I was going to say series.
That's it.
Islamic Freemasonry and the Secret Societies Behind the Eternal Conflict in the Middle East.
A great book.
I can't wait to get my copy.
Once again, Leo, thank you so much.
Yeah, I would love to.
I would love in the future, once you have read this book, to maybe debate it more, because I think there is a lot of things that we might have left out.
There's a lot of things in here that we could get into.
Like the law having 95 names, by the way.
That's a whole...
Problematic thing.
Yeah, there's a lot of things I have discussed, not on this program, but off-air with certain Muslims, and I think those conversations would probably get me beheaded.
Yeah, well, I tell you what's going to stop the Muslims from eventually beheading me.
There is one thing that they actually have to respect from their own Koran.
See, the fact that because this book It's dedicated to my son.
Now, I never spoke with my son.
I know.
He's gonna be 18 this year.
That's wild.
But this book I dedicate to my son is a clue to clear the mind of the hateful and open the eyes of the blind.
And I hope that he will read it and he will understand.
Hold on, Leo.
Hold on.
Hold on, Leo.
Are you still in communication with your son today?
No.
You're not at all?
No, I haven't had any communication since 2008.
I never spoke with him.
He was too young.
But can you still connect to him, though, in other words?
He's in the hands of the Gulen movement, which is also, if you read the book, you can understand who they are.
One of the most influential Sunni movements connected to the Jesuits.
Fethullah Gulen was guested by John Paul II.
He's actually living here in exile after attempting a coup in Turkey in 2016.
And the stepfather of my son, like I said, is not only a member of the Gulen movement, but also a member, a high-level member of the World Economic Forum.
So I have nothing I can really, you know, I mean, it would be impossible for me To reach him in any way, but I think that this book will probably send some waves towards him in the Muslim world.
That opens up the eye of many people.
Leo, that is extremely fascinating to me, you know, that you have a son and that, you know, he's coming to that age where he's going to seek out for you, I think, in my opinion, eventually.
God bless you.
of the Koran prohibit any family member of Prophet Muhammad to be in any way persecuted or touched.
And he is a descendant of Prophet Muhammad.
So I can't.
Oh, my goodness.
Well, I'm the only one who can say this.
My goodness.
Well, now I want to read the book even more.
OK, thank you, my Lord.
All right.
Thank you, Leo.
God bless you.
Take care, my friend.
Wow. - Wow.
I don't even know what to say there.
I had no idea that he had a son out there, and he doesn't really know the son too well.
I haven't talked to him since 2008, I believe he said.
My mind is now spitting.
I had no clue.
Can you imagine?
I don't have a son, obviously.
I don't have any kids, for those who wondered.
But, you know, those thoughts do go in my head every now and then.
They do run through my mind.
Where I come up with these weird scenarios where it's like you know what if I had a child out there and they didn't know me and one day they just found me randomly because eventually you know you grow up and you start to wonder where where's dad where's mom and then eventually you seek out for your your biological parent So that shit is pretty wild.
I had no idea Leo was rocking it that way, boys and girls.
But yes, go to leozegami.com and you can find more of his work.
His books are incredible, by the way.
You know, you thought you knew a man.
You know, you talk to him for several years and all of a sudden he drops a bomb on you.
He drops a bomb.
Well, I have a son.
I mean, I had no idea.
And it's pretty crazy, my friends, pretty crazy.
And I hope you guys enjoyed this rendition of this live rendition of the Michael Deacon program.
Of course, you can take us on the road with you just search the Michael Deacon program.
And boom, we're right there for you.
Thanks for the show.
Keith, that's what he's saying to me here, and Fox Mulder.
I like that username, by the way.
David, a great show, he says.
And Steven, you should have called the line.
I'm not sure why you never did.
Skype isn't working for some odd reason.
It works, but not when it comes to taking phone calls.
That phone line though.
The one right here.
Yes, you see this number.
Can you guys see this number?
Is it big enough for you now?
That's what she said.
You see this number?
Yes, definitely call in whenever you'd like.
Don't ever be afraid.
Don't be intimidated of me or the guest.
We'd love to have These very intimate conversations with you, no matter what the subject.
That's what I like doing here, by the way.
It doesn't really matter what you have to say.
I'm here to listen.
That's what I'm here to do.
That's my job.
And my job's to listen to you, by the way.
This is a very interactive show.
If you haven't already noticed, I try to entice you to call in.
Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't.
I don't know.
Are you guys afraid?
I don't know what it is.
We had some calls here tonight though, but for some odd reason the phones were dropping left and right.
And Steven didn't have the testicular fortitude to call in.
That's what I'm hearing.
Word in the streets.
Bubba!
I'm ready for tomorrow's show.
Yeah, tomorrow we have a live show for those who didn't already notice.
We'll be live and of course Mr. Mike Hideous will be here in the building.
Definitely get ready for that, folks.
It'll be a fun time.
I'm sure he's already angry.
I'm sure many of you are already angry, but it's gonna be Friday.
So, you know, he should be a little bit more relaxed.
Let's, let's, you know, maybe that's wishful thinking.
And right now I'm hearing a rumble.
I'm hearing a loud rumble right now.
I'm hearing jets.
Actually not in my usual location.
This time I'm closer up to the mountain range.
We have a naval facility.
So I'm out here in a very deserted area by the way.
There's like nothing around me.
This is... These are the wastelands by the way.
This is no man's land.
I see no one around me.
I could literally shoot someone and get away with it by the way.
Truth be told.
But you didn't hear it from me.
I'm just joking.
That was Made up?
That's not true.
That's not true at all.
It seems like some of you guys bothered the guest ever so slightly.
I'm not sure if you realize that or not.
I think he might have even been reading the chat and not really enjoying what some of you were saying here.
I think the chat room angered the guest.
It certainly wasn't me.
I had nothing to do with it.
The blame is going back on you.
On all of you sick bastards out there.
That's your fault, not mine.
I blame it on you.
Have you ever heard a show that actually has actually had a host that would say that?
That's taking no blame for it.
They're blaming the audience, not the host themselves.
It's taking absolutely zero responsibility.
And that's what I do here, by the way.
I take zero responsibility for the things that are coming out of my mouth here.
Some of you like it, some of you won't.
I don't really give a damn, though.
Keats says, damn, we should have been nice to Leo.
Yes, you guys should have been nice to them.
You guys are all rude Nazi skinheads out there.
You guys are all Nazis.
Every single one of you.
Nazi white trash.
That's what I feel like calling my audience now.
Nazi white trash.
Yes, all of you Nazis out there.
You radical homosexual Nazis.
That's what I'm going to be referring to you great folks in the chat room.
But yes, catch us live tomorrow.
Yes, tomorrow will be fun.
Leo is mad at you, Keith.
Yes, every single one.
Oh, I hit the microphone there.
Every single one of you.
He's heated with all of you.
He hates every single one of you now and he will probably won't return now.
And I have you to thank for that.
Yes.
And for those listening to the podcast version of this program, I welcome you to listen live with us.
Usually we have a show during the week.
We get down live right here on YouTube.
Just search the Michael Deacon program and that's where you'll find us.
Steven says, great show.
I agree.
I will pray in the Church of Leo for forgiveness.
That's what Keith is saying.
He's going to start praying on his knees.
I think a lot of you need Jesus.
A lot of you out there listening live.
I think a lot of you out there need Jesus more than I do.
That's my hypothesis.
Yeah, that's my hypothesis.
That's what it is.
Fox Mulder Jr.
Is that you, by the way, in your avatar, Fox Mulder Jr.?
Probably not.
That looks like someone that drove me around on Uber, by the way.
You're not my Uber driver, are you, Fox Mulder?
Sometimes you come across these gentlemen, either Uber Eats or some other sort of delivery service, and sometimes you give them your business card.
And I've given my business card around out there quite a few times.
So sometimes I wonder, is that one of you in the chat room?
Have you delivered food to me or something else?
I wonder.
I wonder.
So that's why I'm asking.
That might be you out there.
Only if you knew.
Only if you knew.
Steven says, my cell won't let me call you.
Well, why doesn't your cell phone let you call me, Steven?
What's going on with your phone?
What kind of a low-budget phone do you have, Steven?
You have that cricket service.
Is that what it is?
Fox Mulder Jr.
says, ha ha ha ha.
Yep, that was me.
Well, it's a pleasure to meet you, Fox Mulder Jr.
I'm glad you're here.
You know, there was someone else from my hometown who happened to be in the chat room not too long ago, by the way.
That kind of freaked me out.
I didn't even want to acknowledge them.
That's how freaked out I was.
But yeah, there was someone actually in the chat room right now, boys and girls, that actually lived in my hometown.
Yeah, that's pretty, pretty scary.
You don't know who they are and I gotta be honest with you folks out there you know I've been stalked for a number of years now and it goes back even back to my high school years there was someone who was stalking me and it was a woman of sorts well a girl at that time And no one told me who the hell it was.
Her mutual friend told me that this girl has been stalking me since I was like a freshman in high school.
And I thought, holy shit, why would anyone be stalking me?
But here we are, boys and girls.
I had this sort of stalker and allegedly they would drive by my home almost every day.
Yes, almost every single day.
They would either get a ride by their parent And once they actually got their driver's license, they would drive by my house.
Yeah.
That's pretty crazy.
But there was a time when there was something called ICQ.
Do you remember those times?
Do you remember that?
Back in the day.
ICQ.
A lot of us had that back in the day.
And this girl was telling me and she didn't reveal her friend's name at all.
She wouldn't tell me and it drove me insane.
It's like you have this friend of yours who's mentally ill, mental crippled as I like to call them, and you're not going to give me a name who this crazy bitch is hiding in the bushes or some jazz like that.
I was offended.
Yeah, exactly.
I was horrified, Fox Mulder Jr.
I was horrified.
I could have died.
Yes.
No, I didn't beat her down, Vic.
I wanted to.
Hearing about that sort of thing would kind of entice you to want to strangle a mother effer, as they say in the streets.
But yeah.
That is very scary, Keith.
Yes.
Imagine how I feel.
It's pretty damn scary.
I couldn't believe it, folks.
I just...
I don't even know what to say about that.
But yes, that actually happened.
Non-Kfabe.
There's a real stalker out there.
Even if they are relatively harmless of sorts.
Just the fact that they would even conduct that sort of behavior.
Yeah.
That's nuts.
And Steven, yes, we are here for all the heathens out there.
Yes, we love them all.
We love all the walks of life out there.
All the different walks of life out there.
We appreciate all of you.
And I appreciate all of you out there.
Those who will listen live here and of course those who will listen back on the replay.
Remember michaeldeacon.com on all platforms.
That's where you'll find us.
Keith says, I was stalked when I was 23 and it sucked big time.
It worked out thankfully.
Keith, did you buy a gun?
Did you buy a gun?
No, I want to know.
Before I sign out of here, I want to know.
Or yeah, or did you marry her as Vic said?
Keith married a stalker.
Yeah, that's a deadly game by the way.
If you marry someone who's like a super fan of yours.
Yeah, look what happened to Selena.
She was married to that big woman.
And that bitch got shot.
Sure did.
Bitch got blasted.
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Keith says I did not marry her.
She ended up doing two years.
Wow.
Wow.
Fox Mulder says, Keith, that you on America's Most Wanted?
That's another great question.
No, you.
He wasn't on America's Most Wanted.
He was on To Catch a Predator with Chris Hansen.
That's where he was, Fox Mulder.
I'm kidding, by the way.
I'm joking.
No, he's not.
He wasn't on any TV show except maybe the Jerry Springer Show.
That's another TV show I do miss, by the way, folks.
The Jerry Springer Show.
Trash television.
The good stuff.
Hit me with the good shit.
Who doesn't like Jerry Springer?
You'd have to sort of be a beta male if you didn't like Jerry Springer, in my opinion.
Morton Downey Jr.
Who's a Morton Downey Jr.?
Kind of sounds like someone with Down syndrome.
That's why I stopped there.
Jerry.
Yeah, Jerry.
Exactly.
My tattoo artist was on the Jerry Springer Show.
According to Bubba, allegedly.
Wow.
Quite the honor.
Quite the honor.
Springer was a great mayor.
You know, I wish we lived in a time where Jerry Springer was still alive and he was actually the president of the United States.
That's kind of what I would want.
I kind of want my president to sort of be like Jerry Springer.
I don't know about you, but that's kind of the president that I want.
It's kind of like some people want Jesus to sort of be this stoic sort of hero of sorts, but in my mind, in my opinion, I kind of want like a hippie Jesus, you know, a much more relaxed Jesus on acid.
That's kind of the Jesus that I want.
And I view him, if it's a guy, I don't know, I'm not sexist, I'm not sure, but if Jesus was a, you know, A real thing.
I would want him, I identify him as a male hippie.
You can laugh all you want, but that's what I want true in my heart.
You can make fun of me all you want, but I want hippie Jesus.
You could crucify me if you want, it's fine.
Bubba says, I do have sexy legs after all.
Bubba, are you a politician of sorts?
Those sort of things make me feel like you might be involved in those activities of sorts.
Those nefarious activities, I should say.
My goodness.
All of you out there, you heathens, I'm not sure what to make of any of you.
But, ladies and gentlemen, we've had a great time here.
I wasn't even supposed to be on here talking for this long.
But yes, Jesus is coming back.
I agree.
Fox Mulder.
Jesus coming back on 420.
That's another good hypothesis of sorts.
A good estimated guess.
We love you too, Michael.
Yes, I love all of you out there and appreciate all of you out there who definitely drink a beer or two or drink some whiskey.
Or do other things.
Whatever your gimmick is, we do appreciate that wholeheartedly.
I love that.
Even though maybe I shouldn't, maybe that's not something to be proud of.
But the fact that you view me in that sort of way, where I bring you great joy, that sort of puts a sparkle in my eyes, by the way.
It makes me feel like I'm doing the right thing, even if I'm encouraging you not to sometimes do the right thing.
Yes, it's the conundrum that we all sort of have to fall in line and be victim to.
And yes, no disrespect to any religious folks out there.
We had a bit of a fun show here.
It got a little dark.
It got a little crazy.
But we definitely respect all of you out there.
Definitely know that for sure.
In my heart, no hate on any of you out there.
Yes, and no hate for you in the chatroom.
Praise Jesus!
Yes, praise all the gods you want.
We have no ill will towards anyone out there and their religious views.
Yes, take care all of you out there.
Stay safe no matter where you are on this island earth.
Let's hit that glorious music.
I love the music by the way.
It's a beautiful song.
Let's let this let's let this thing roll out here.
We are downloading Heaven.
I don't know what that means.
That sounds like something someone from the Heaven's Gate cult would say.
Are you from Heaven's Gate?
Francis!
You sound like you are.
Once again, boys and girls, it's been an honor and pleasure.
As it always is.
Let's let this run here.
Ah, yes.
There we go.
Love that music.
Once again, boys and girls, always an honor and pleasure to do the program for you.
We'd love to get down here.
This show is not for the faints of heart.
This is definitely not for the beta males out there.
Definitely not.
Absolutely.
Yes, thanks for the three dollars, by the way.
Really appreciate that.
Once again, boys and girls, always time with all of you.
And with that said, the world is a mysterious place and life itself is a mystery.
Until next time, good night.
Good night.
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