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Dec. 2, 2023 - The Leo Zagami Show

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THE TRUTH ABOUT THE ALIEN AGENDA AND PROJECT BLUE BEAM

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	Well, hello everybody and welcome back to Aquarium.
	Rising Africa.
	For those of you who just watched me 10 or 15 minutes ago, welcome back!
	I promised you Leo Zagami and yes he was not here last week but here he is after Thanksgiving and he tells me he weighs at least 5 kilos more Well, I always try to do a bit of diet prior to it, so I can then, you know, not gain so many kilos.
	And then after, of course, I have to run a lot.
	Yeah, happy Thanksgiving to all the Americans for last weekend.
	Anyway, I know we don't celebrate Thanksgiving yet, but we're still very grateful to all our friends and family and for you guys that are watching.
	So thank you so much.
	Personally, as I am fleeing persecution in Europe, I have a lot to be grateful for since I moved here in America.
	So it is a little bit like The original people who settled here, who moved here, one of the main reasons has always been persecution.
	So I think that once you've been persecuted in your own country and you are fleeing from it and you are moving to a new country, you have to fully embrace it and definitely you need to be grateful for it.
	That's very, very true.
	I think it's very true.
	But I'm interested.
	I know we've spoken about your European situation before, but I'd like to actually tell us again, I mean, what exactly has happened with you in your own country?
	I mean, I know with your book and all of that, you obviously had A lot of that, but I'd love to hear that story again before we move on.
	Well, briefly, I mean, do not take too much out of today's main topic, which I find fairly interesting.
	And of course, like we said earlier, before going on the air, very, very important and relevant.
	I think that my moving here has been maybe important and relevant mainly for me because I saved myself from the persecution and also for, of course, my family, because when I was in Italy, after I published my books, I started to receive various threats and then I received a lawsuit from a grand master together with a sovereign grand commander of the ancient and accepted Scottish I started to receive various threats and then I received a
	These two figures are usually separated in regular or even irregular Freemasonry, like in this case.
	And when I, you know, these cases in Italy, because of the way the bureaucracy work takes years to fully, you know, fully manifest.
	So I received this lawsuit for voting one of my confessions back in 2013.
	We had basically in 2019 when I Finally decided I had to leave Italy because in early 2019 they threatened me with taking my passport and the lawsuits in Italy are not civil, they are criminal.
	So a journalist can be arrested for what he writes, for what he says.
	And this is a legacy, I guess, of the Italian Constitution that was remodeled during fascism.
	So what happened was that after the fall of fascism in 1945, the Freemasons, the progressive Freemasons that went back to Italy and from there on took care of the judiciary, making it a left wing sect, basically, because that's what magistrates in Italy are.
	I mean, even today, as we speak, Crosetto, who is the Ministry of Defense, is fronting problems in Italy because of his criticism towards a conspiracy orchestrated by the Italian magistrates against the leading political party with Giorgia Meloni.
	So they are active still now.
	They are basically using the judiciary for political reasons, like it's happening now in America.
	We are seeing it with Donald J. Trump and his persecution.
	But of course, here in America, it mainly involves big political figures.
	In Italy, the corruption is strong.
	So entrenched in the system that from the lower level, you know, even a modest guy like me, a journalist, an author who simply has written certain things, goes into a court and I find myself in a kangaroo court where the judge says, you shouldn't criticize the Vatican Masonic connections.
	And I'm like, Why are you telling me this?
	I mean, you know, what's your business with what should I do or not do?
	And then when I sit in the stand as a witness to my own case, defending myself, I felt really the most injustice I ever felt.
	I mean, in Italy, they have this writing in the Constitution that they put in every court where it says the law is equal for everyone, where it's complete bullshit.
	The law is not equal for everyone.
	When I arrived there, They got my court case moved at the end of the day, so they didn't have any people around the whole building.
	So they could, you know, and that was already very weird.
	Then when I arrived there with my lawyer, I start seeing the grandmaster going in and out of the court, which wasn't even open yet, addressing the judge like a friend or possibly a brother, even if it was a woman, because women Freemasons in Italy are very active.
	So it was like literally going into a kangaroo court and at that point when I went back to Milan in the evening because this was in Monza before going back to Rome, I called my mother, I called my wife, I said it's about time for me to leave Italy because the threat of having my passport taken and be subject to possible arrest for what I write, for what I say it was increasing.
	And plus, in the past months before that, other cases have started to pile up from other Masonic entities that wanted to bring me in court.
	And when I said to the judge, listen, if we will have to be fair by Masonic law, these cases should be discussed in a Masonic court, because that's where usually Masonic cases are discussed.
	As you are bringing it to the profane world, this is something that I don't find correct.
	There is nothing wrong in a profane world about what I have been doing or criticizing.
	The judge, instead of saying, well, you're right, the judge immediately attacked me and said, you have no respect for the Italian law.
	You need to shut up and you need to.
	And I was like, OK, fine, fine.
	OK, that's it.
	It was, like I said, a complete corrupted situation in which I had to get out.
	And now after All these years, I'm glad to say that within the next few months, hopefully, I will achieve my American citizenship in time to vote for our next glorious president, Donald J. Trump, who will probably liberate us from this infamous left-wing, hellish, Illuminati-driven, Jesuit-controlled freaks.
	Because the problem is that many people don't understand that this world is controlled by The Illuminati who have launched, right at the start of their plan, this communist project.
	Their idea is to transform the whole world in a communist hellhole.
	And so with, of course, everything I have written in my books explaining, as you know, in great detail how they operate.
	Well, this hasn't gone down very well.
	However, since I moved here in America in 2019, I was capable to write books, publish books with no problems.
	And I do my work finally, because we have the First Amendment, freedom of speech, of expression, I can finally do my work without being harassed, threatened, or my wife or family being threatened, which was also something that, because you know, until it is only me, I can take the pressure, I can take the But involving other people, also family members that get threatened with me, it wasn't very nice.
	It wasn't very nice.
	So Europe in itself is nowadays starting to devise, probably in the next few months, a digital ID, which will also include a digital wallet for the digital currency.
	And that will probably go in line with the credit score system on a Chinese model.
	Europe is completely technocratic, fascistic.
	Actually, it is the fourth Reich.
	It is the fourth Reich that is rising again, with Germany, of course, leading the way.
	Continuous money being pumped and given to this war in Ukraine, which, of course, now is being lost.
	So now the situation is becoming very difficult for Europe because the war is lost and they know it.
	and they have lost also great opportunities of commerce with Russia, who instead has expanded their business with other countries that are willing to do it.
	I mean, Russia is at the moment not only producing oil and gas from the already known zones, it's expanding itself in the Arctic, also with the search for gas and oil, but also with also with the search for gas and oil, but also with rare minerals and so Things that will of course be required if we need to transition as they want to this green economy.
	Hopefully I will not see this expansion further because I hope with President Trump we will kind of Give a stop to all the lies that we're hearing also now from the COP28 in Dubai, all this BS that we hear from the various world leaders about how dramatic is the situation.
	Regarding the moment in time in which we are living, of course we're living in extraordinary times and so There is a Pope that is possibly dying in the next couple of months.
	He's very sick.
	He hasn't managed to go to this event, but at the same time he has not been able to even do mass or carry on his regular duties in the last few days.
	So he's increasingly sick.
	But we already know that the next pope will be from Africa.
	So it will be from your continent.
	And that will sanction the African invasion of Europe that will probably expand even further at that point to levels that will collapse the Judeo-Christian society that we built with so many sacrifices and war during the course of centuries.
	Now, I'm not saying that the Europeans don't have their own responsibilities in Africa or in other places, because as major powers, they have a lot of responsibilities, even in what is happening currently in the Middle East.
	People might not know that, but the history of France, of England, of Russia is connected directly to what is happening now.
	and But we are, of course, facing an extraordinary situation in which probably Europe will no longer exist a hundred years from now, as we know it.
	With the same cultures and traditions.
	When we say that, remember, we're not talking about America.
	America is a mishmash of everybody and everybody in theory is welcome because this is a country made of immigrants, of people who, like me, for persecution or for other reasons, even economic reasons, have moved here.
	But when it comes to Europe, we have indigenous people that have been there for thousands of years, just as much as they've been for thousands of years in Africa.
	I know that, for example, I'm half Sicilian.
	Once upon a time, Sicily was together with Africa.
	It was one big thing.
	Then it's separated.
	We each went our own way.
	But the respect is important for a civilization.
	Otherwise, if the civilization cracks, we will be in chaos.
	Because I don't think that...
	that what is being proposed here is very good.
	I mean, we have, of course, increasing power of China.
	China is expanding their power, is expanding their influence, is becoming this, is, of course, with the help of Russia, because thanks also to the oil, the gas, everything that comes from Russia, China is really capable everything that comes from Russia, China is really capable of establishing its legacy.
	And one of the main people who were responsible, unfortunately, for this development, because I don't think that this development in the long run is going to be a positive development, is, of course, Harry Kissinger that just died in the last couple of days.
	Everybody's talking about his death, and Harry Kissinger is definitely somebody who dies with a lot of skeletons in the closet, a lot of responsibilities.
	Can you tell us about some of these skeletons?
	Tell us about the skeletons, Leo.
	Mano, I would prefer to talk about the subject today because I think one of the main things that Harry Kissinger did was the strategy of tension using nuclear weapons.
	Now, we know that some connections between the UAPs and UFOs and The fact that they appear in nuclear sites has always been of interest.
	Now, today, of course, we have entitled this show because, as you know, there was this conference in this Congress, sorry, that the Mexican Congress held in last month.
	And everybody took it a little bit lightly because these Peruvian mummies looked cute and funny and probably A lot of people doubted that there was anything serious about these Peruvian mummies.
	However, in the last 24 hours, the fact that the DNA results of these Peruvian mummies has come back stating that basically there is 30% of DNA which is not human and is not terrestrial, basically.
	It's extraterrestrial.
	This is what is happening.
	Two months have passed since this unprecedented display of inhuman bodies, claimed to be extraterrestrials, there in these glass cases to Mexican politicians in the Mexico City Congress.
	And it was, so it was more than a month actually, it was a couple of months ago that this whole thing popped up.
	But now the fact that 30% of the samples taken from this, because a lot of people, went on and said immediately, no, this is impossible, this is a piece of animal, this is a piece of that.
	But now, you know, Now, when you have important newspapers from the Independent to the Jerusalem Post in the last 24 hours confirming that a group of doctors provided legitimate biological existence that when you have important newspapers from the Independent to the Jerusalem Post in the last 24 hours well, I mean, I think that this is
	Definitely one of the most important informations that we can deliver to our viewers today.
	And so, I mean, and at the same time, also another important event that happened was that yesterday, a group of congressmen that of course the majority is from the Republican Party, but there has been also people from, I mean, mainly They are carried by these two figures of the Republican Party, these two representatives.
	One is Tim Burschelt.
	I talked about it in Volume 9 of my confession.
	There is kind of a timeline of disclosure this year that has been kind of evident since David Grush came into the fold, but many others also.
	But this happened gradually, like I explained in Volume 9 of my confessions.
	And now, yesterday, Tim Burschelt, but also Matt Gaetz, Ana Paulina Luna and other representatives denounce the fact that they have been obstructed by the military-industrial complex.
	There is a cover-up.
	They actually denounce a cover-up.
	This is, I think in itself, probably even more shocking that the information that is coming from the DNA of the mummies Because this means, confirms all of what I read in Volume 9 and Volume 7, also when I started to write about the reverse engineering.
	Because remember that here we are talking about the fact that if the military industrial complex is covering up this whole thing, it's covering up this whole thing because there has been reverse engineering given to certain companies who have developed certain things, including artificial intelligence.
	We are Facing, for some people, even human extinction because of artificial intelligence.
	So it's about time to discuss these things and understand them.
	And, you know, people tend to lose themselves talking about things like Project Bluebeam.
	Now, I would like to make it very clear that we need to stand on the facts, on the evidence.
	Project Bluebeam was created by a guy who a colleague, of course, this is now a Sergei Monast, a Canadian guy, in the 90s, he came up with this Project Blue Beam hypothesis, so, I don't know, conspiracy theory, that gained a lot of momentum about conspiracy theory, that gained a lot of momentum about the fact that they will use the UFO phenomenon with the help of the United Nations to implement a New Age religion with the Antichrist as it's said in the New World that gained
	Now, it is an interesting, Incredible story.
	But when you go and study the evidence, there is no evidence.
	There is no evidence.
	And if we have to stick to the evidence, there was basically a book published by this guy.
	It was the main source of this whole thing.
	But after the book came out immediately, The people saw that there was plots picked up by Star Trek movies, TV series, episodes of Star Trek that actually look exactly like what he was describing in the book.
	So maybe the guy had some kind of... he was a Trekkie!
	But let's remember that sometimes when you formulate a conspiracy theory that is so far-fetched, there is maybe a fundamental truth somewhere.
	So there might be a fundamental truth.
	Even if it's not, you know, in any documents.
	Maybe he, you know, in his head or something.
	Definitely it's very strange the fact that Sergei Monast after died in very mysterious circumstances and that he was persecuted.
	But probably he was persecuted mainly because of other conspiracy theories he was following.
	Let's not forget that He published his most detailed work called The Protocols de Toronto 6.6.6 which basically was modeled upon the protocols of the elders of Zion.
	And we know how this forgery created so many problems.
	But at the same time, remember, Canada is not America.
	If you start writing things like this, or if I move to Canada, I will be already arrested, persecuted, tortured, probably dead by now.
	Canada is one of the most hellish places of the New World Order.
	We can see people like Justin Trudeau, Being, you know, just like the poster boy of the WEF.
	And then you have... I mean, there is no democracy in Canada.
	I would not live in Canada if you paid me.
	I would actually go back to Italy and die rather than go back to Canada.
	I mean, Canada is that bad.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Countries from the former British Empire, and we include, of course, South Africa.
	I was going to say, here we are, here we are, completely sucked in by that nonsense.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Then you have Australia, then you have New Zealand, you know, you have these countries and you see what these countries did during the whole pandemic.
	So, I mean, I leave it there because, of course, we don't want to be censored, but I leave it there.
	I mean, we know We know that there is no democracy or no possibility of being truly free in such countries.
	And then we have, you know, King Charles, who is a figure who is fully embracing this green new economy of sorts.
	Yeah.
	And who is basically what he's proposing is going to see The destruction of world economy and the death of millions of people on a massive scale.
	I mean, King Charles is himself one of the candidates for the office of Antichrist, as I explained also in my books, Volume 8, also because of the connections with the show business, as well as his son, of course, Prince William, the future king.
	They are people who are part of this New World Order establishment.
	And everybody instead likes to blame these days the Jews.
	But remember, if you read my book... I'm interested, just sorry, just to chime in here.
	I mean, we're talking about Charles and William and stuff.
	There's a lot of people that are speculating that Charles William is the, I just call it the AC.
	I'm not going to say, you know, what is your take on that?
	I already gave my take on that in both Volume 8, especially in Volume 8, because I explained his connections, of course, with Pedro, with Jimmy Savile, the connections of Prince Andrew with Jeffrey Epstein are well known.
	We know that this family is a sick family.
	I mean, if you have as a royal advisor, Jimmy Savile, you must be sick in your head.
	I mean, because this guy was the biggest pedophile in the history of pedophiles, and he was using the BBC and all his charities and the fact that he received an idol even from the Pope to go into hospitals, rape people, mentally ill people.
	I mean, and even rape dead people sometimes.
	So he was into... I mean, Jimmy Savile is like...
	Hell, I mean, this guy was a diva and King Charles, at the time Prince Charles, always hanged out with him, always used him as a royal advisor.
	Going back, though, to the actual royal family and a very interesting news that is coming out now on a new book that is going to be published today, basically, is regarding Queen Elizabeth's interest for the aliens.
	So, we go back to the alien phenomena.
	King Charles, of course, has been urged in this book to apply pressure on President Biden to reveal.
	It's, of course, something that comes out of today's interest for the topic, but apparently Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip had the great interest for both UFOs and crop circles.
	So there is a lot of people that are actually, it's not a book, it's a documentary that I think is going to be released on this Tubi, which is basically one of these free channels you can get here on streaming, at least here in the US.
	I don't know if you can get it in South Africa, but this documentary It's going to basically show reports, a lot of the events.
	I mean, there is UFO experts, of course, like Nick Pope, which of course is very popular, one of the most popular ufologists.
	But this documentary is by a guy called Mark Christopher Lee.
	It's called The King of UFOs, I think.
	And I think that it's important to follow the interests of people like even Lord Mountbatten, Prince Charles, King Charles, who then, of course, died.
	He was killed.
	But there is elements that also make us think that the UK government fears against investigating fully the phenomena because of the demonic element which is in it.
	This is actually, apparently, from what I read, this is one of the subjects also which is discussed in this documentary, which is just coming out today.
	Okay.
	So it is interesting, I think, to see that there is all this interest.
	Exactly.
	I mean, a lot of interest.
	I personally don't.
	I mean, I have had one experience in my life with a close encounter.
	And it happened during the magic of Abraham and Mary in the Magis, a subject which I discussed in Volume 3 of my Confessions.
	I've also, as you know, dedicated the whole book to this subject, The Invisible Master.
	Which is regarded actually as a very important book, also by people within the UFO circles.
	I have testimony of it when I went to Contact in the Desert this year, which is one of the biggest conferences here in the United States.
	And people were still talking about this book, which now has a few years, but as an important book.
	Because in this book everything that I stated actually after the revelation of David Grush and also the interdimensional nature of these beings and all the rest has proven to be true.
	So I think it's very important that That we continue pursuing and also understanding more about the subject.
	But of course we can't expect our governments across the world to ever give us the truth when they have been accused of hiding the existence of aliens for centuries.
	We know that there is something really wrong.
	That's why I followed with great interest yesterday this, and I advise all of you who are following us today to go on the YouTube and find this press conference by these members of Congress who accused basically people who are not elected, who are generals and other people,
	To continue this cover-up and actually to stop and make difficult the investigation for members of Congress who are, of course, legitimated by the authority given by the American people.
	So it's almost like we are really finding one after the other confirmations on all those weird theories that in the 90s we saw on X-Files.
	Over and over again.
	Isn't this amazing though?
	Because what I'm finding absolutely amazing and incredible and Even though it is quite terrifying for many people, right, to be discovering these things right now, but it's always been going on.
	It's not like this is new.
	The only thing is the way they've covered it up over the years.
	They've done it a lot.
	They've done it successfully.
	They've covered it up.
	They've lied to us.
	They've duped us.
	They've given us all sorts of cock and bull stories about this, that, and the next thing.
	Now they can't cover it up anymore.
	I mean, people like yourself.
	Coming out there, you know, blowing the whistle on what's been going on, you know.
	You speak about Italy, you know.
	I mean, for me, Italy is top of my bucket list.
	It's one of the places I've not been to.
	I am most definitely going to Italy and I'm going to enjoy myself to the fullest, eat the best pasta, right?
	That's how we see Italy.
	But it's true what you're saying, right?
	Behind the scenes...
	It's great to go back there as a tourist once I'm American.
	What I'm going to do, the first thing I'm going to do next year, once I have an American passport, is to eliminate my Italian citizenship following, you know, there is a bureaucratic thing that you have to do.
	To erase your citizenship because at that point they have no longer any attachment on you because the constitution of Italy is still valid even if you are on the other side of the world if you have still your passport.
	So that means danger for me.
	So once I have eliminated that and I'm an American citizen and possibly Donald J. Trump is elected at the White House, who knows?
	Maybe I will go back as the former president of Italy for Trump and it will be very difficult then for the Italian government or the European Union Either they will have to do like they did with David Huyck and stop him from entering and refusing the visa or otherwise I will of course enter and it will be at their own risk to touch me because I will be protected by the American authorities at that point.
	And we know that they are very subservient, especially in Italy, the Mafia, and Freemason basically controls the Mafia, is very subservient to the Americans.
	So, as a tourist, enjoy my parade of pasta.
	Exactly, it's beautiful.
	No problem.
	But if you start talking about the politics and you start exposing them, well, then it becomes a different set.
	That's what I'm saying.
	So the lies that we've been fed, you know, obviously, you know, all of this stuff, the whole world really, right?
	We've been taught it's one thing or told one thing, but behind the scenes, it's something very, very different.
	I mean, it's like All the discoveries that we are hearing now, the whistleblowers coming out, we're hearing about what's really been going on in the military, what guys who've been in there are talking about.
	It's just one big fat lie that we've been led, that we've been fed year after year after year after year.
	And it's now starting to come out.
	Things are now starting to come out.
	Which I don't think is gonna stop.
	Because all these plans that these guys have had for the future, I think too many people are waking up.
	You're talking about these creatures that have got 30% non-human DNA.
	I mean, that we know has been going on in Area 51 for a very long time, where they've been breeding these things.
	You're hearing these military guys talk about spiders the size of, that are five feet, like, across, right?
	That literally eat people.
	Six feet dragonflies.
	I mean, they are literally, they are Nephilim giants that these guys are hunting.
	That are, you know, they're traveling inter-dimensionally.
	There's so much on this planet that we don't know.
	I mean, 10 years ago I assisted to an interview that Princess Corona Camaro did with the now deceased Marquis Roberto Calderola in which he stated, and he was of course somebody who received also an important recognition by the American government, he was A member of the P2.
	He was a very influential Freemason.
	And during the interview, he admitted that he had been in Area 51 and he had actually seen with his own eyes these aliens.
	Now, at that time, I was a little bit incredulous when he said that, to tell you the truth.
	But in reality, it seems like he was 100% right.
	Absolutely.
	I'm interested to hear what you say, because I've not heard this before, just going reversing back, when you're saying the new Pope is from Africa.
	Expand on that, please.
	Expand on that.
	I'd be very interested to hear what you have to say on that.
	Yes.
	Basically, what happened is this.
	the current Pope, Giorgio Mario Bergoglio, in the last few synods and events, he has packed the...
	It's a term they use for the Supreme Court here, and they basically fill up, basically, the Supreme Court on one side of the aisle or the other side of the aisle.
	In this case, he has nominated more cardinals than anyone before, electing cardinals, cardinals that can elect, because you can nominate a cardinal, but maybe he's over the age of electing a Pope, because there is a limit to the age.
	So, the electing cardinals nowadays have been, most of them, chosen by Bergoglio, by Pope Francis, and that means that he basically has the possibility of deciding who is the next pope, or in the event that he dies, the next pope will be decided by people who were loyal to him, so they will decide following his own diktat. so they will decide following his own diktat.
	And his own diktat is that he wants to elect a black Pope from Africa.
	In particular, there is a name that I want to make.
	It's Peter Turkson, who is from Ghana.
	And Peter Turkson is somebody who is very well known by Klaus Schwab, by his very well-versed with economy.
	He has served as counselor of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences also since 2022.
	So he's also dealing with the alien phenomena.
	So we go back there, because the Vatican Jesuits and the Vatican astronomical sector is very important for the Vatican, for the implications that a discovery like that might have for the faith.
	So they have been working on it for years.
	And his full name is Peter Godwapia Turkson, and he was basically born in Western Ghana to a Methodist mother and a Catholic father.
	He is basically the one that we can say, I mean, It's almost certain that he will be the Pope.
	And if it's not him, Cardinal Turkson, they will choose another Pope from Africa.
	But having seen his rise to, let's say, to power of this guy,
	Knowing also, from within the Vatican, what they're saying about him, I can almost say with certainty that he will be the one elected when this Pope will either resign for health reasons or either... Now, regarding this, I have been saying for years that he will resign, but I no longer, since last year, believe that, because I got information from the Vatican that the Pope has decided to die in office.
	So, he wants to die in office.
	However, there is the possibility, and this is also still there, that he will retire after he goes back to Argentina.
	Now, in Argentina, we had the recent election of Millet.
	Which initially was, you know, during the presidential run, he was accusing the Pope of being the representative of Satan on earth and all these kind of things.
	But after he was elected, he backtracked on most of the things that he promised, first of all.
	And, of course, he received a cordial phone call from the Pope and who basically then... Cordial!
	Well, yeah, I mean, I love it.
	Yeah.
	And basically, the fact is that the matter of fact is that in the end, they came down to the conclusion maybe he would be visiting Argentina next year.
	Now, The Pope is really in a bad condition at the moment.
	We had already the resignation in February 2013, of course, of Pope Benedict XVI, and we saw also for how long he lived with another pope.
	We saw that this was not always a good thing for the Church to have two popes, as Ratzinger was still rather conservative in his approach.
	And that's why the current pope has tried to elect more cardinals possible so he could pack the next conclave with Pope Francis Fanatics that could elect the most progressive pope from Africa in the next term.
	Why Africa?
	Because it's all to do with the current immigration problem for opening and acceptance.
	It's a little bit like what happened to John Paul II.
	John Paul II was elected.
	You remember back in the days there was still the Cold War.
	We were facing the Cold War and John Paul II became an instrument for the end of the Cold War from the occult powers playing this game behind.
	Because we know that Gorbachev at the end of the 80s got initiated in Freemasonry and basically sold out this country and this whole thing then, you know, manifested in the fall of the Soviet Union.
	But John Paul II was the first non-Italian Pope for centuries.
	It was an incredible event.
	Since then, of course, we never really had another Italian Pope, and that is because the Popes are considered by the Illuminati, by the Jesuits, by the people who are the Sabbatean Frankists, which drive the economy like the Rothschilds.
	They are considered central for their role in the geopolitical scene.
	So at that time, when John Paul II arrived, we started to see massive influxes of immigration from Poland.
	Wherever you went in Italy, you stop at the lights and there will be a Polish guy cleaning your car.
	And I was like, at the time I was very young and I was with my father in the car and I said, why are they letting them in?
	Why are these Polish people here?
	Well, you know, now they have the Pope, and they will be more accepted.
	And plus, all these people will eventually vote socialist, will eventually vote something that will be favorable for the people who are letting them in.
	At that time, there was a socialist government held by a guy called Bettino Craxi.
	He said, you know, these people are let in so they can eventually vote for the party who lets them in.
	And that is what is happening here in America.
	That's why we have a current invasion of America.
	And people flooding the country left, right and center because they, of course, they let them in.
	They want to change the very nature of the states in which they invade so they can vote Democrat rather than Republican and make this country a one party option country only like California.
	In California, you don't really have the Republican option.
	The Republican option is talked about, but doesn't really exist because they are either rhinos or either they never get elected.
	You can put your name there and sign and elect, but they're never going to get elected.
	So Newsom is really the Antichrist on Earth kind of figure, another Antichrist, definitely maybe not one with the bloodline.
	that we have, but definitely a sort of antichrist.
	I mean, he looks like Damien Thorne from the film Damien, and he's about to conquer the world.
	And last night when I saw him with Desantis, it was embarrassing, this guy.
	But the thing is, they want to destroy the two-party system.
	So then you have only one party.
	You don't have any option.
	You just go and you...
	Go with this constant mantra of more wars, more pandemics, more catastrophe, more inflation, and poverty.
	Poverty.
	Constant poverty.
	Growing poverty.
	Yeah, the division between those who have the haves and the have-nots.
	And already we're seeing it.
	I mean, we're seeing it with the increase of fuel costs.
	I mean, I just know here in South Africa, our local flags Since the pandemic, they have tripled in cost.
	For me to fly to Johannesburg from here, it is triple what I used to pay before the pandemic.
	Food, I mean, I'm not one that usually complains about prices, but oh my gosh, The price of food has increased astronomically fuel.
	Everything is increasing.
	So it's, I mean, we're seeing people on the streets here more and more and more every day.
	And in the old days, it was only African people that were begging, right?
	Wow.
	I mean, in recent years, there is just people, and I say white people because invariably we were the people that were of more privilege.
	Let me tell you, I was born into white privilege.
	I'm a product of apartheid.
	because here in America, then you start with the whole white privilege mantra, which is used by the left, and we kind of reject it.
	Well, let me tell you, I was born into white privilege.
	I'm a product of apartheid.
	I was born in the apartheid era.
	And that doesn't mean that the white people in this country got everything for free.
	No, we had to pay.
	There was nothing for free, but we were born with opportunity, right?
	That the black people did not get.
	So we had the opportunity that the African people did not get.
	I know I'm not always popular for saying that, but absolutely.
	I'm not saying it's like that anymore.
	In fact, it's reversed now, but it's the opposite now.
	You know, now we have the whole B thing that, you know, Honestly, if you're a white middle-aged man, especially a middle-aged male at this point, you're pretty much screwed unless you have your own business.
	There's not much opportunity in terms of jobs and what have you.
	So the whole system is reversed.
	But my point is, is that everything has gotten more expensive.
	There's certainly a division between those who have and those who have not.
	So it's, and I think it's growing worldwide.
	So, you know, it's that, you know, what did Klaus Schwab say?
	You will have nothing and you'll be happy.
	Right?
	Going back to Klaus Schwab, because Klaus Schwab, of course, is one of the most important players today, you know, and he comes directly from a long line of Nazis, you know, like a literal Nazis, you know. and he comes directly from a long line of Nazis,
	One of the things that people need to understand is that he himself, like I explain, and this I explain very much in Volume 7 in detail,
	basically the product of something that came out of the Vatican because he himself had a mentor who was this important bishop who kind of was part of this group
	of cardinals who met under Rome in secret and created this pact of the catacombs which is still discussed today which then in turn this pact of the catacombs produced a pope like Pope Francis later on because Pope Francis came to us thanks to a coup d'etat that was orchestrated by the Jesuits in the Vatican
	For the first time in centuries, a pope was forced to resign so he could rise to power.
	And Klaus Schwab himself has enormous power, even in the election of the next pope, believe it or not.
	I would have never, you know, said that, but Cardinal Turkson is somebody who I will not trust also because of what he said about African pedophilia.
	I want to actually ask this question because you are in Africa, so maybe you can understand more.
	In February 2013, Turkson told in an interview that he believed that sexual abuse of children by Catholic priests in Africa would not have the same proportion as the one in Europe.
	Now, I don't believe that for a second.
	I think that is even worse in Africa.
	What do you think, Shantanu?
	Well, I think, I mean, you know, in terms of the Catholic Church in Africa, I'm not an expert on that, but I'm going to certainly look into that statement for sure.
	But what I do know is that there's a huge amount of African kids that are trafficked.
	through the Catholic Church from Africa.
	That is definitely for sure.
	What I'm saying is, you know, in terms of child pedophilia, I wouldn't say it's any worse than in America, because if we're looking at the amount of pedos that are happening underground... I don't say worse, I would say that saying less is wrong.
	I agree.
	I would not say it's less because we understand that many of our African kids are trafficked for sure.
	When it comes to pedos, definitely.
	And there's a lot of that.
	There's a lot of that that happens here.
	And I mean, of course, Africa, you know, when we're just looking in terms of the witchcraft, the dark magic and stuff that happens here.
	It's vile.
	It's disgusting.
	It's criminal, in fact.
	You're talking, I mean, there was a, there's definitely a woman, what's her name?
	Erica Mukizwe, Mukizwe, whatever.
	She's quite well known.
	She's from Uganda.
	And she was, she's now a grown woman.
	She's a Christian and what have you now.
	And she and her husband, her husband was a rapper.
	an African rapper linked to all the American rappers, right?
	And she was the main witch in Africa.
	And she will tell you the most horrific stories about witchcraft in Africa and what they do.
	But it's all linked to the States.
	It's all linked.
	You see, Africa is owned by the Rothschilds and especially South Africa, We know that.
	When we look at South African politics, Johan Rupert runs this country.
	Johan Rupert is a Rothschild.
	Nikki Oppenheimer Which is the son of Harry Oppenheimer.
	The Oppenheimer, the S, the Ulster, Bertie and Frankest, who in Germany helped the rise of the Rothschilds.
	And I must say, this is very important, and of course I have to reiterate this in every show, but it's important that we don't confuse the whole anti-Semitic, anti-Syanist rant, what these people really are, which are Sabbatian Frankis.
	Now people will say, "But what are the Sabbatian Frankis?" Sometimes, Chantel, I hear that people, because of intellectual laziness, because it's intellectual laziness to just accuse a whole ethnicity of vile things, it's very... it's an unethical thing.
	Antisemitism is born out of intellectual laziness.
	So we need to study the Jewish culture, understand what has happened to the Jewish culture, and how the Sabbatean Frankists infiltrated Zionism from the very beginning, led the basis for
	Labor Zionism, which is of course a major problem, as well as the DNA of Israel that unfortunately is entrenched with the Sabbatean Frankish legacy.
	I mean, it was Sabbatai Zevi with Nathan of Gaza, who was basically his John the Baptist of the situation, who invited for the first time the Jews to go back to Israel And let's remember that Orthodox Jewish people initially were rather contrary to the idea of going back to Israel.
	However, now they are back there.
	They have constructed the reality and they live in their country mostly peacefully.
	We should just let it be.
	Of course, when it comes down to the controversies that also touch the Palestinians, we have to remember that this is also the great responsibility, like I said earlier, of countries like England, France, and even Russia with the of countries like England, France, and even Russia with the pogroms who pushed a bunch of people to have to leave even before the Holocaust.
	The Germans, of course, the Nazis have huge responsibilities, but who was the main ally of Adolf Hitler?
	It was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
	And so, I mean, we are, you know, I mean, these people, you have to really study history and understand the nuances of it all to have a full understanding before you can...
	But what I'm seeing here now is this constant brainwashing.
	The children of Palestinian children have died, the Palestinian children.
	It's like a mantra that in the last days we see on TV.
	I mean this morning I put on NBC and it was just like a mantra.
	And it's like, who is pushing this mantra though?
	Who are the people in charge of this mantra?
	And can we believe in them?
	Because they're the same liars who have given us the war in Ukraine, the B.S.
	pandemic and the whole show.
	So, I mean.
	It's just exactly so it's you know, for me, it really is.
	The same people funding both sides of the wall, in my opinion.
	You know, let's go back.
	Let's let's go back to the African Bush War.
	Right.
	Which lasted for many, many, many years.
	Right.
	It ended at 89-90.
	Now, someone that I know pretty well was very much involved in that scenario who worked for the CIA, right?
	And very much involved with, I want to say, selling my continent out, right?
	At the same time, and he said to me, when was the Berlin Wall broken down?
	And I went, okay, probably around about the same time.
	He says, well, That's why the bush wars ended because they're now the same money that was funding the bush wars needed to go and fund that.
	So it is really just these huge monopolies.
	The same money, it's the same industry.
	Of course.
	When you're talking about the Bush wars, you're talking about another proxy war between the Soviet Union and America of that time.
	Totally.
	And of course.
	The proxy war continues to this day.
	Ukraine is a proxy war.
	Absolutely.
	What is happening in Gaza is a proxy war.
	And what is happening probably tomorrow in Taiwan is another proxy war.
	But I mean, it's not going to be so proxy when it manifests in Asia, because at that point we would see probably the two sides literally fighting.
	Let's not forget one thing, and this is important, maybe one thing about those skeletons in the closet that I didn't want to mention about Harry Kissinger, because there will be way too many.
	But one thing that we need to focus on Regarding the legacy of Harry Kissinger is that it was him in the 1950s who basically helped Taiwan stay Taiwan because he basically threatened China saying you don't have any nukes.
	At that time, China didn't have any nukes.
	We have already used them with Japan.
	If you invade Taiwan, we will use them on you.
	And that was it.
	And that was the moment in which basically China said, OK, we step back here.
	Until we have the nukes, and now they have the nukes, they actually have hypersonic nukes, which we don't even have.
	Because yes, they have less nukes, if you're going to count.
	Of course, they don't have thousands and thousands like Russia or us.
	But they have hypersonic missiles.
	And in the development of hypersonic technology, we have been completely obliterated by China and Russia.
	Because, I don't know, I mean, we're simply behind.
	So, this is what is happening at the moment.
	And I think that we need to understand that if there is also an alien, so-called alien intervention in all this, then we should go back to another of the statements of Henry Kissinger that in a way said we need an enemy that is common to face the whole of humanity.
	This was a concept that was then, as you know, George Bush brought also to the United Nations, the concept that Ronald Reagan also before him, but Bush was the one who was also in charge of the CIA at the time.
	This concept of creating an external enemy that at that point becomes the focus of the one world government coming all together and the people of Earth unifying to defend our interests.
	From this out-of-space AI.
	What did you call it?
	Cyber-Satan.
	Cyber-Satan.
	Definitely, Cyber-Satan is expanding more than ever.
	We constantly see The developments of this whole AI revolution.
	We also see though, we have recently seen with the chat GPT, that actually there was discussed something, you know, this whole CEO going backwards and forwards, hid something important that was happening that week at the chat GPT headquarters.
	They were discussing a threat to the world by the AI.
	And they have not let us know what is this threat.
	Right.
	But it is there.
	So that's why today, still to this day, most missile launch pads here in America for a nuclear arsenal, they are still analogic rather than digital.
	They have a more less sophisticated approach, which is very good because it means that a human needs to go there Put in the codes in a very, without any connection to the internet or any form of AI.
	Because AI is definitely something of a threat that could manifest.
	Totally.
	It's these super, super off-worldly beings, whatever they might be, you know, people call them different things and what have you.
	But for me, it really is that.
	And when you're talking, I mean, I'm interviewing someone at the moment on the channel called Caleb Jade, and he was in the military.
	Um, for many years, and they were sent on these missions to to to collect these artifacts that are actually pre-mud flood.
	Right.
	And he will tell you about the places they have to go.
	And it's like masks that they got to put on.
	And he'll tell you, he says he put on these masks, and it's a different consciousness.
	It's like your thoughts change.
	It's like that hive consciousness.
	And they were sent to collect these things.
	So that when, like the Antichrist is an entire system, right?
	It's, it's, it's not just a person.
	It's a system that is led to, and yes, one person has to head up that system or will head up or whatever, like, you know.
	But with the help of cyber Satan, that will aid the rise of the Antichrist.
	First of all, we have seen, like I described in Volume 8, a cultural Antichrist that had Hollywood as their main propaganda outlet.
	The outlet that we have seen in cinema, in music, the fact that the culture of the Antichrist is already here.
	It's not that the Antichrist is going to come and he's going to announce anything new, because the culture is already there.
	We've already been duped!
	And they've used Hollywood, because we know Hollywood is full of CIA, right?
	And they've used Hollywood with their actors and their puppets and things to literally dumb us down to the point that we've become their puppets themselves.
	It's like we're treading water and they're just pulling us along on this tide that takes us to this place.
	And before we know it, boom, It's like we're in this crawl, like we've been pushed in there like a bunch of sheep, like slaves, like literally slaves, you know?
	And then before we know it, there we are.
	But that's why it's just interesting that we are now, you know, for me, that's what's really cool at the moment, is that more and more people like yourself are telling us what's been going on and what is going on.
	So we are waking up and really they cannot do much.
	Well, I don't know about though they can't do much because the thing is that we know that the robots are immensely more powerful than men.
	And when I saw the inauguration this year in Japan of a robot that looked like the robots I used to see in the cartoons in Japan in the 70s, I mean it was like a beast, 10 meters, 15 meters tall with
	You know, I mean, don't underestimate the fact that the elite is moving against the majority of mankind so they can reduce the population because they have the means to do it.
	They have the robotics to do it.
	They have the AI to do it.
	AI is gone.
	I read an article yesterday that the AI is a threat, mainly a threat for jobs like priests and bakers.
	I was like, what?
	Priest and bakers?
	Right, right, right.
	I mean, don't people want the contact with a human rather than a machine?
	Right.
	And I mean, they've been doing this systematically.
	I mean, nowadays, you phone a corporation, you don't get a secretary or a receptionist that answers the phone anymore.
	You know, you put through to some and I mean, that's where it started.
	Right.
	That's where it started 20 years ago already.
	You know, you're phoning someone, you at least get a receptionist or someone on the phone.
	Now you put through to automatic stuff.
	There is no one helping you anymore.
	Right.
	It has been systematically over time, it's been introduced and we've accepted it.
	And because we've accepted it, this is where we've ended up.
	And I agree with you.
	You know, we're sitting and we're facing a lot of this stuff right now.
	These massive, I mean, all you've got to do is look at China and the billboards and the advertising they're doing.
	I mean, it is insane.
	The thing that they are able to do, right?
	The CGI, all of the stuff that they're doing right now and have been doing for a long time.
	So, yeah, I mean, I do think the discussion of the last week of the Pentagon has been if you if given the possibility to AI driven drones to actually independently attack and kill a human being.
	Now, that is The start of something will lead also the robots to knock at their door, push us towards the Mark of the Beast, and at the same time, maybe we're going to even be seeing Robocops like in the movie Robocop, because that's... But they're already doing that!
	Well, they're already doing it in places like Dubai, for example.
	Yes, they're already doing that.
	They're already doing it.
	We might see it even in the streets of America or other countries.
	But not too long ago, Leo, not too long ago, I mean, we were seeing things where they were putting these robots at some ballgame.
	Chantelle, I want to ask you, how would you say we are more and more and they can't stop us from... I mean, when they have this kind of power... That's what I'm saying.
	In my opinion, right?
	In my opinion, you have to comply spiritually.
	And I'm talking the only way out for us is spiritual, where we actually are spiritually connected to God.
	That, for me, is the only thing that is more powerful than this.
	Of course, but the spiritual connection is severe once you put something external in your body that leads you towards the transhumanist nightmare, because then it's severe.
	Exactly.
	That for me is the only way out, because we've allowed it to get this far.
	We have.
	And as I was saying, not too long ago, they were having these robot things, at these ball games.
	And one guy, a black American guy, recognized his face.
	They had taken his face and they put it on one of these robot things.
	There's a big thing about it.
	I mean, he did a lot of posts and things about it on Instagram and whatever it was.
	And he was saying that because when you actually, for example, you go onto these sites, Right, where you put your face in and you put filters on your face and stuff like that.
	What you're not seeing is the small print you're signing that they now have access to your photograph.
	They have access to That information about you and they therefore have now the rights to use you as a clone, as a double, whatever it is.
	So this is how they've systematically been getting in.
	We've got to be so careful of these things.
	I mean, I've been staying mostly away from that kind of stuff, but that's how they've gotten us.
	And more and more and more of these people are not people.
	As you say, RoboCop.
	I mean, there's a whole Robocop kind of culture going on here.
	And it's scary.
	It's scary.
	Well, it's a demonic game, first of all.
	And that's why, going back to what we have been discussing at the beginning, these alien demons that increasingly, like I explain in volume in this book, Invisible Master, and also in other books, I explain how
	The time-space continuum has been literally invaded from the 1940s more and more by these WAP UFOs, however you want to call them, now they call them WAPs, but it's also the result of rituals that were conducted back then.
	So these rituals opened certain portals and invited more and more entities.
	Because we are living in these times, the times of the Antichrist, the times of the Great Deception.
	So the Great Deception is not necessarily the Blue Beam Project, but of course there will be a Great Deception that can be used at their advantage.
	The fact that these fallen angels have been with us forever.
	They have transmitted the main thing that the fallen angels transmitted to us at the beginning of time, when what we see in Genesis 6, what we see basically in those passages that talk also about the creation of giants
	and so on, is that the legacy that they transmitted to the royal families then that took control of humanity, because their bloodlines took control of humanity, and they were transmitted this black magic, this manipulation.
	And then at one point, though, let's say around 500 years ago,
	The fact that the system of the royal families was kind of not really still working, I mean, the rituals that they should have conducted to transmit this legacy from the very first product of these fallen angels to us wasn't conducted.
	They decided to open also Externally, their knowledge.
	That's when we have the beginning of Freemasonry.
	We have the Rosicrucians.
	When they start to initiate also people outside of their strict caste system built by blood.
	But however, they have maintained within their DNA this ancestral contact with the demons, fallen angels that we have been discussing today.
	So then you have, of course, the fact that some prophets like Moses or Jesus or other, I mean, of course, Jesus more than we consider as Christian, more than a prophet.
	have had a privileged connection with God through those angelic beings that were not the fallen angelic beings.
	Today, most of the so-called spirituality, new age spirituality, is obsessed with things that basically are pushed by these demons.
	And so, We don't really have a genuine form of spirituality.
	We have this fast food of religion, which is the new age in which you can go in a supermarket and pick up everything you like and then make up your own belief.
	Yeah, it's true.
	But the believing God should be purged out of all these things, should be much more sincere, much more driven by the heart.
	And not by the various, you know, beliefs that if you start meditating, I don't know, 20 minutes a day, then you can ascend and become one with, one with what?
	I mean, first of all, if you ascend, because it's very popular, this ascending thing, you know, in certain circles.
	What are the ascending?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	When I see these people who claim they ascend, Chantelle, on the internet, these great new-ager gurus, pseudo-gurus, their life doesn't reflect this great ascension.
	It seems like entrenched with matter and with things that are connected with the lower realm rather than the upper realm.
	I agree.
	And I think it's so important that, you know, and this is where what we always talk about, and I speak to everyone about this on the channel, is really where we have to learn to discern.
	Because there's so much manipulation.
	I mean, even when we look at the churches, I've always said the churches are the infiltrators, because they have brought, they have taken away a lot of knowledge, you know, from the people.
	It's like the Enochian book, which is recognized only in Ethiopia by a minority Orthodox church in the world that doesn't have a say, while instead the most legitimate The Catholic churches have abandoned that book and why they abandoned it.
	Maybe because it says a little bit too much about certain fallen angels and their encounters with mankind.
	Yeah, the book of Enoch.
	I mean, it's well known that the book of Enoch, and especially the Ethiopian version, is the most accurate.
	So, you know, this is where we have to learn as human beings that we've got to go back to that.
	You know, we've got to go back to truth.
	We've got to go back to our relationship with God, our relationship with our Creator, and not what anyone else is doing.
	That is, I think, been the main You know, now we talk today about demons and aliens like a recent thing, so let's not forget that they've been here, they're not really alien to us, but they've been here for forever, but without really embracing the at times too materialistic paleo-astronautic ancient aliens BS, which at times becomes overly materialistic,
	What we can say is that there is definitely a being from the beginning, from these creatures, and from their descendants, from what they created, the intent of disturbing the peace of mankind.
	Because they are the legion of demons, the ones that the Gnostics call the Archons, the Controllers.
	Though I don't embrace, like I said in Volume 9, the Gnostic belief because I don't think that inherently everything that surrounds us is evil and God is evil.
	But the concept of the Gnostic Archons is basically the demons that are there to control And at times oppress us, but also creating in us this sickness that modern society has because by, you know, thousands of years of continuing war against mankind, now they have arrived to the point in which mankind doesn't really believe in God anymore.
	And they have a very pragmatic, very cold, very, at times, even very harsh view of life.
	It's almost like the Gnostics have managed to convince us that everything around us is evil.
	Yeah.
	And it's true.
	It's not.
	That's where discernment comes in.
	You know, that is where discernment comes in.
	And if you don't have that discernment, it's very easy to get knocked off your center, so to speak.
	And then to fall for this bullshit.
	Because there is a lot of nonsense out there that we've been taught.
	And there is a lot of fake prophets and priests.
	Lots of fakery out there, you know.
	And unfortunately, there's been a lot of people that have been able to convince humanity that it has to be this way or whatever, you know.
	We've lost our connection to God.
	That's the thing.
	We've lost our connection to God.
	And when we reclaim that, I truly believe that that's, that's the only way we're going to get through this at the end of the day.
	Um, when we reclaim our, our, our connection to God, It's and I'm just looking at you.
	They've been distracting.
	Yeah, they've been they've been distracting us for a very long time.
	The whole as we say this whole buying culture.
	The fast food culture, the cardboard food culture.
	I mean, if you think about it, though, and here, that's why we need to understand when these things manifested.
	So we then realize the real history behind the scenes of these invisible masses, this secret chief that somehow mold the humanity and craft, you know, and bring us to where we are now.
	We see that After the 1940s, after Aleister Crowley's disciples, Parsons, Hubbard, did certain rituals, and of course this opening of portals that then brought these UFOs, UAPs, then from that moment onwards, if you think about it, Things start to go worse.
	Apart from the brief time of the 50s, the American dream kind of like was encapsulated by an image that of course was propagandistic, but was also the truth.
	America was having a great time after the Second World War and was rising as a world power.
	But then we start seeing that this whole UFO manifestations are basically the manifestations of these demons, these aliens that are gathering around us more and more.
	Like Eliphas Levi in 1861 wrote a letter to Baron Spedelieri, which I cite in my books, Where he says that the more close, and we were basically in 1861, so the UFO phenomenon was not really popular, rather there was another phenomenon that was very popular at the time, and that phenomenon was Spiritism.
	But that Spiritism was almost like it was an introduction to what it was about.
	It was like they were knocking at their door.
	There was this wall that was protecting us from these hairs of Gog and Magog, as they call them in the Bible.
	And in this letter, Eliphas Levi says, and Eliphas Levi is the inventor of the word Occultism, basically the guy who launched it and also the guy who developed further the Another concept, which is Egregore, which Egregore, by the way, goes back to Grigori, which is the Watchers, the Nephilim, the fallen angels that created them and all that.
	So we go back always to the same concept.
	But in this letter, he says that these lights, apart from the knocks and the things that we hear through spiritism, there must be the manifestation of these lights that will move around, that will move fast.
	Well, that is the UAPs, that's the UFOs of today.
	And Ivo says they will move more and more as Sunak and Elia will announce their arrival.
	Of course, there will be the Antichrist figure that is manifesting.
	And so like, it's more, all this energy is magnetic.
	Remember that these UAPs, these UFOs, are kind of developing from an electromagnetic force of sorts.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And we ourselves, with our thoughts, we emanate energy and we emanate with our thoughts and manifest things.
	Let's also not forget that.
	A lot of people ask me, why do I See today manifesting 666 everywhere I see or 888 or 777 or whatever number in a repeating kind of fashion.
	And then there we have to go to study what Jung calls synchronicity.
	I don't know if you ever had this episode happening to you, you know, where you see a number manifesting in a repeating pattern.
	Yeah, it happens because, of course, your thoughts are manifesting that number, which is basically, let's remember, our thoughts and everything we manifest is always something that manifests through a geometrical and numeric pattern, which is perfect because the universe is made of numbers and is made of geometrical patterns right from the start.
	So they are a reflection of this synchronicity.
	So the fact that you might start focusing on a certain thing and then you see it manifesting in front of you is a product also of your own doing.
	If you see 666 everywhere, wherever you turn around.
	And I'm talking also for myself because it happens to myself often.
	But it's interesting because what, you know, what for me makes a lot of sense is as human beings, we have consciousness and we have the ability to manifest.
	Which is something that these, call them creatures of the night in my opinion, whatever they are, they don't have that ability.
	So they use us to manifest for them.
	So by telling us what they want, like for example, if you're looking at the Simpsons and the cartoons that they've for years now been doing this predictive programming.
	When you're looking at, when you're talking to some of the whistleblowers, for example, who've been in the system and as children, They would have these different, like the Looking Glass Project, The Voice of God, whatever it is.
	I know Jesse has been in them.
	And they're using kids with spiritual gifts to predict probable outcomes.
	And the way they do it is quite genius.
	So they then put that programming or that information into the cartoons like The Simpsons.
	South Park, those are the two that I know most strongly.
	So now when millions of people are watching South Park or The Simpsons and they see, oh, the Queen's dying in 20, because you see it, the Queen dies at then.
	So it's like, you know, energy goes...
	- Down the stairs with Ben-A-Ania years before.
	- Exactly.
	- Or any other scene that is definitely projected in the global context.
	- Certainly.
	And then that's exactly how they manifest because we have now seen this on TV and energy flows where attention goes.
	So as long as there's 20 million people or 10 million people watching that, oh, look, Trump's going to be president in 2016, whenever it was like.
	That was part of the predictions in The Simpsons, right?
	All we have to do is to see what's happening in, let's say, The Simpsons.
	How many times hasn't that happened?
	So they do it.
	They're genius.
	They understand.
	They're very, very clever.
	It doesn't mean that they're empathetic or compassionate.
	They have no compassion.
	They have no empathy.
	They don't like humanity at all.
	They hate us, in fact.
	So they will use us for their own nefarious purposes.
	But we have something that they don't have, which is our consciousness.
	And as long as our consciousness is used for their purposes, they're going to harm us all.
	I would also say our soul, which is a very important concept.
	Consciousness.
	Soul.
	Aside from consciousness, we also have a soul.
	We have a soul that is Yeah.
	It's conscious, but it's also, if you think about it, it's also part of God's creation.
	Yes, it is.
	We all have a soul, yes.
	And so the fallen angels that have been casted out of the heavens, that in some way have been punished, and who in turn have fed us, though, their knowledge from the very start.
	I mean, when we see the representation of these serpents, but the serpents, of course, is also the first serpent of temptation with Adam and Eve, the serpent of knowledge, in a way, from the tree of knowledge, this serpent tempt us with this apple from the tree of knowledge, this serpent tempt us with this apple and this whole concept, which, of course, is an allegory, but it's also symbolic
	We have, during the course of thousands of years, used some of this knowledge that was given to us by also the fallen angels.
	No, it's not only that.
	But at the same time, what are they giving us now?
	What are they giving us now is the last part of the plan.
	It's basically through this reverse engineering of these UFOs.
	They have created the AI in the 1950s project to develop the AI.
	The AI is developing in the ultimate trap for mankind and at that point they will be finally able To pull the net, like a fisherman does, and all the people who have fallen into this net, into this trap, they will be fished.
	And who will be the ones remaining?
	I think that there will be a minority.
	I don't think the majority of mankind will be able to resist this great... I think the majority of human beings is either sold out already because You know, when you look at the corruption from the governments, it's a well-documented fact.
	And whether it's true, whether it's not true, that it was really Eisenhower that made this agreement with these, the Greys.
	So they say, so they say, so they say.
	So that's what I say.
	So they say.
	But I think, in my opinion, it's happened before that.
	When you're looking at the turn of the century already, and they were creating these cabbage trees.
	You know, like I say, I started to really say this in this book in particular.
	This happened since the beginning of mankind, the connection with the other world happens from ancestral times with already the shamans connecting with the other world, already the high priest who detected, who had great power and maybe used, you know, the great who had great power and maybe used, you know, the great pyramid of Giza to initiate the farrow to these In fact, there is a light that comes, you know, I mean, when you have
	an understanding of the pyramid of Giza, not as a simple resting place for the dead, but a place where people were initiated to these mysteries.
	Right, exactly.
	And they were like the way that the chambers are built, so they can reflect certain stars, the lights of certain stars.
	And of course, we go back to Sirius because Sirius seems to be omnipresent in this connection between mankind and God.
	Sirius is a star which is mentioned two times even in the Quran, a few times in the Quran.
	And with that, Sirius is basically the one that is connected to Seth.
	They say it's connected to Satan.
	It's connected to a lot of things.
	It's connected, of course, to ancient Egypt.
	It was the most important star.
	And so Sirius is the place where This energy, this dog star is basically projecting something towards us and we have of course a lot of talk in Africa about the Dogon tribe and you know and what happened with them and their own relation with this and then you have of course
	In ancient Sumerian times, so Hannes, the fish god that comes out of the sea and creates and so the manifest... Yeah, that's what the... I mean, if you're just looking at the Dogon tribe, that's what they do.
	They had these dolphin people that could come out of the sea and grow feet.
	And, you know, I mean, it's it's crazy.
	You know, I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of different Civilizations that have taken home on Earth, that have made Earth their place to be, right?
	In the end, we will be curious still to see what's going to happen with these Mexican demon mummies, but definitely there is something that I think we need to follow up with and continue to monitor in our further discussions.
	It's always a pleasure.
	I think that's wonderful.
	Like we do every month to have this encounter of minds and to be able to manifest our thoughts and hopefully a lot of people today have learned a few things.
	I also will once again state that it is important to not fall into the propaganda of the enemy.
	The propaganda of the enemy that wants us belligerent, that wants us, you know, to take sides.
	Palestine, Israel, this, that, Ukraine, Russia.
	It's all BS when you think about it in the eyes of God and in front of the end times scenario that is manifesting in the near future.
	I think that things like that are really A little compared to the vastity of the cosmos.
	And as humans, we have to understand that there is, of course, been problems.
	I mean, Gaza, for example, was a landing place of some of the fallen angels.
	And this is something that goes back to the Bible.
	So it's a cursed land.
	For a long time, it was a cursed land.
	I mean, at one point, the Sabbateans made it their holy city.
	So, I mean, it's like this place is cursed.
	But, you know, of course, let's not fall into the trap of putting on the TV and believing the lies that they are putting towards us.
	Because everything that is said by the mainstream TV is a constructed lie that is built up to further manipulate us, divide us.
	With the famous saying of divide et impera, divide and conquer.
	So, while they divide us, they can conquer this planet and they can soon unleash the ultimate hell because, you know, once you're going to have, in 10 years from now, people queuing at the Apple Store because they need to implant their latest implant in their body so they can do this or that, well, I mean, it's... No, thanks.
	Leave me alone.
	Thank you for having me on once again.
	It was an absolute pleasure.
	I just wonder, before we go, what, just in terms of your books, what What books of yours would you recommend for our viewers?
	For somebody who has never read anything, I would say that Volume 9 contains everything we have discussed today and more, and it's also a book that can be read on its own, just like Volume 8, because Volume 8 is instead regarding the entertainment business, the music and the cinema world, but it is a book in its own right, regardless of the confession series.
	And then, of course, if you want to follow the whole series, you can, of course, purchase all the other books, but Volume 9 can be definitely a book to understand also the Trojan horse element, which I've discussed today.
	The fact that these entities might have given us the ultimate Trojan horse with the AI and The implications of it are incredible, but in this book there is also much more.
	There is an understanding of how transhumanism is the modern form of alchemy for the Illuminati.
	There is actually documents from the Illuminati To state that the involvement of Freemasonry in Ukraine to create the Ukrainian identity or the various secret societies, the Illuminati, and then there is much more, of course, it's a book that is almost 600 pages, but definitely worth reading.
	So thank you so much for giving me this opportunity, of course, of shameless promotion, but If you are interested in what we have discussed today, definitely they can find the good things in this book for them.
	I'd love to.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I'm going to get that one on.
	Is it on Kindle?
	I've got your volume 8.
	Yes, yes.
	OK, I'll get that on Kindle.
	I mean, the US Space Agency has reported in the last few days That basically we have had, you know, this US Space Force that Trump had created, had reported, detected thousands of UFOs in Earth's orbit in the last month.
	So it's not like we are living an illusion that is not materializing in front of our eyes.
	So it would be good for us to understand the implication, because in the end of this book I also explain what happens
	When you decide to go off the grid and how you need to get off the grid, which is something I already started to discuss in Volume 7, but I wanted to also discuss in Volume 9, which discusses also the implication of quantum computing, which will be probably the, you know, quantum computers will be, like I said, probably in other shows with you, the great digital divide.
	The way that these people can recreate feudalism.
	Feudalism means that from their great castles, where they have, you know, their quantum computers, they can control all of us with their little computers here that of course cost a thousand, two thousand dollars, whatever they cost.
	But they are, of course, this is what we can afford.
	They will be able to afford these computers that cost millions, that have cooling helium systems with quantum computers, that basically are capable of doing things that are really incredible, in the sense that they can get into our own computers in a nanosecond, get into all our passwords, regardless of you setting these passwords, getting into the blockchains... There is no verification!
	Two-step verification is like a walk in the park!
	They are saying to us now that the AI will be in the next couple of years substituting all our apps.
	That means that instead of going in each single app like we do today, with the AI, we will ask the AI to do this and the AI will then interact directly with the app.
	Well, I will not trust that.
	Trust the AI with all my apps, all my passwords, everything.
	No, thank you.
	No, thank you.
	Exactly.
	Have you seen smart TVs?
	Someone was demonstrating with these smart TVs the other day in someone's home.
	I watched them do it.
	The TV is off.
	Your TV is off, these smart TVs that you're putting in the frame, and everyone thinks they're so high-tech.
	I mean, and then the guy who was part of creating this shows, and he shows, you turn on a camera, these people have access to your camera, and they can see everything you're doing, TV off.
	TV off, we've known this for a while, but there it was in real time actually seeing this.
	Throw your TV away, people.
	Throw it away.
	I have not had a TV for 20-odd years.
	No smart TVs, no smart cameras, anything smart.
	It's completely... No, no, no.
	You have to avoid that when possible.
	Avoid the smart option, because it's never so smart.
	If they say it's smart... It's not smart at all.
	It's not smart at all.
	It's satanic.
	Like I say in my book, it's satanic.
	I'm definitely going to be getting Volume 9.
	I've got your Volume 8, but that one with the invisible master, I'm actually interested in that.
	Show me that cover, please.
	That is also very important, the book, The Puppeteer's Hidden Power.
	Okay, is that also on... is that the Invisible Master?
	I want to get that one.
	It's on Amazon always and probably... Oh, they're both on Amazon, right?
	Yes, yes.
	This is by CCCC publishing.
	The other one is from Curso Imperficio.
	And for next year, I'm preparing a book that is going to be something really special, as you can imagine.
	So, Leo, you've got...
	The X is gonna be a book that is gonna be out of this world.
	Twitter!
	Elon Musk!
	Elon Musk!
	Even more.
	I mean, from Musk, but much more.
	I mean, of course, we're going to be touching on subjects which are very controversial, including the Freemasonry in the Middle East, secret societies in the Middle East.
	Some very stuff that is going to shock a lot of people.
	I mean, I don't know how much information you have still stored in that head of yours, Leo, because every time... I mean, seriously, you've got these books that have come out.
	They're amazing.
	Your information is phenomenal, you're super smart and I wanted to say thank you for sharing with us what you have.
	Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share with your wonderful audience and because they're all very appreciative of it.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And I'll see you, we see you once a month, the last Friday of every month, so we'll see you in about three weeks' time.
	We didn't have you on last week because of Thanksgiving.
	I hope it's not Christmas.
	Let's see if it's not a holy day.
	Oh my gosh, it probably is Christmas.
	Okay, but we'll figure it out.
	We're going to have to move.
	Okay, take care.
	I don't even celebrate any of these things.
	I just work, you know.
	But my work is fun, so what can I say?
	That's great, that's great.
	I'm a traditionalist, so I celebrate all festivities.
	You're going to celebrate everything!
	Leo, thank you so much.
	God bless you all.
	There he goes!
	God bless you all.
	Thank you for joining us.
	It's been another long, amazing show.
	Wow!
	I think he's so smart, this guy.
	And I'm definitely going to be getting Volume 9 of his book.
	Thanks guys.
	Thank you Jenny.
	You guys are awesome.
	Always here.
	So cool to have you hanging out with me on a Friday night.
	So take it easy.
	Have a beautiful, beautiful weekend.
	God bless you all.
	Stay tuned and stay connected and throw that TV away.
	Oh my goodness.
	Okay guys.
	Take care.
	Bye bye.

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