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Nov. 19, 2023 - The Leo Zagami Show
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CYBER SATAN
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With important changes in our culture, we are being conditioned to change our way of thinking, catapulting us into a new unknown future.
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Tonight, Cyber Satan.
Second hour, Leo Zagami.
And I'm telling you, folks, he's bringing it tonight.
Buckle up!
We have for the first time, we will have for the first time something that is smarter than the smartest human.
And that, I mean, it's hard to say exactly what that moment is, but there will come a point where No job is needed.
You can have a job if you want to have a job for personal satisfaction, but the AI will be able to do everything.
So...
I don't know if that makes people comfortable or uncomfortable.
It's hard, you know, when there's new technology, it tends to have, usually follow an S-curve.
In this case, we're going to be on the exponential portion of the S-curve for a long time.
And you'll be able to ask for anything.
It won't be, we won't have universal basic income, we'll have universal high income.
So in some sense it'll be somewhat of a leveler or an equalizer because really I think everyone will have access to this magic genie.
Most companies will not have a choice but to adopt AI and to adopt digital at the core functions.
In many ways your personalized as mediated through your transactions, through your smartphone, you know, through these devices, and how you interact with consumer technology, products, and so on and so forth.
You're already living in an AI age.
This is what we are facing, except that the aliens are not coming in spaceships from planet Zircon.
They are coming from the laboratories.
He's sitting right next to you, the creator of the aliens.
I honestly think this is an unhelpful characterization of the nature of the technology.
An alien has, by default, agency.
These are going to be tools that we can apply in narrow settings.
Yes, but let's say they potentially have agency.
We can try to prevent them from having agency, but we know that they are going to be highly intelligent and at least potentially have agency.
And this is a very, very frightening mix.
Something we never confronted before.
Again, atom bombs didn't have a potential for agency.
Printing presses did not have a potential for agency.
This thing, again, unless we contain it, and the problem of content is very difficult because potentially they'll be more intelligent than us.
How do you prevent something more intelligent than you from developing the agency it has?
I'm not saying it's impossible.
I'm just saying it's very, very difficult.
Ephesians 2 and verse 2.
It says, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to, listen, the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience.
So he is called the god of this age.
He's called the prince of the power of the air.
He is the one.
I want to read from a May-June 2009 Tomorrow's World article entitled, Satan and His Demons, by Ms.
Dr. Meredith.
He writes, The effect of Satan and his demons is awesome, and Satan's actions are right now affecting the world around you more than you may begin to imagine.
This civilization, this age, the 6,000 year period from Adam until the return of Jesus Christ, has been and still is a society dominated by Satan, the devil, and millions of his fallen angels, or demons, who followed him in rebellion against the Creator God.
Dr. Meredith continues.
So Satan, the devil, truly is the God of this world.
He is a genuine spirit being who greatly influences the actions of human beings, subject to God's overruling power.
He's still subject overall to God's overruling power.
As we see, the demons had to come out when Jesus told them to come out of those they had possessed.
They still are subject to him, subject to God's overruling power.
He is allowed to strike at nations, influence the behavior of demented dictators and rulers, and cause this world to be heading for disaster.
This is something that most don't understand.
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I mean, it's just insane how much, and the news cycle just constantly turning and you don't even know what to believe anymore.
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J6 tapes.
Quick note Vinny put in there.
Well, you know, all right, we can talk about that real quick.
The J6 tapes.
So, so our new speaker released them to the public and now it's proven that the Democrats are complete freaking liars.
Every prisoner for J6 should be released right now.
I say it.
JP says do it.
I mean it.
What a farce, huh?
I mean, God.
It's too bad it has to get to this level where, you know, it takes so much for people to wake up that it takes them so much.
This has all been out there forever.
I mean, right when Nancy Pelosi held the tapes for that long period of time, that should have been questionable.
Right then and there!
We should have seen those tapes then.
Oh, man.
But it took elections, and it took the Republicans to take over the House, and it took, you know, flushing the...
It's such a joke!
And you're paying for all of it!
18 million dollars, by the way, for your J6 investigations and so on.
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We're talking AI tonight.
And you know, like I stated at the beginning of the, right, there was gonna be two things we're gonna be talking about.
AI and COVID, right?
Now COVID's kind of fading off, finally.
I mean, people are still taking that.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe it, but you know, just goes to show you what some good propaganda can do.
And you know, that propaganda is all ran by AI.
I mean, all these news stories, I just wonder for how long we've actually been re, look, even if they were live, they got AI generated news stories that went all over the country.
Same narrative, same stories, same freaking lines.
Such liars.
Such liars.
Blows me away, you know?
So anyway, um...
Tonight's show is called Cyber Satan because that's what Leo Zagami, uh, what he calls this technology of today.
And, uh, we will play an interview with Leo.
You know, he does his show on Saturday night with his lovely wife, so he's kind enough to grace us with an hour of his time and, and it's fresh.
So we will play that now or two and you'll love it.
He's a great guy.
Love Leo.
Um, this time we did it on camera, so we will.
He likes the camera.
Most of us Italians do.
So anyway...
Oh, this is.
Was that confirmed?
It's confirmed.
Next week.
Oh, we got a cool guest next week.
Something you're not hearing about, but you're here.
You will be hearing a lot about it, and he's been getting around.
His name's Mike Gill.
Finally locked him, man.
He's going to be with us next Saturday, even though it's holiday weekend.
You know the paradigm shift just goes.
We do it.
Yeah, so alright, that's that looks good.
All right, so now with this AI business, you and I, we're already locked into the system.
There's nothing we can do about it.
You know, unknowingly, we agreed to this system by checking the box and not realizing that 20 years later, we'd be prisoners of the largest prison in the galaxy called Earth.
Every single one of us.
Even the non-banking people who they're now getting phones into their hands, we've talked about that six months ago.
So, I mean, what do we really know?
I mean, listen, for me, I'm absolutely questioning everything, man!
I'm not even kidding!
Dude, I'm even giving an eyebrow to the Flat Earthers at this point.
I'm not kidding, man.
It's like, what do you believe?
There's so much out there and everything that we've been taught just has turned out to be a complete lie.
I mean, it's a system.
It was intricately designed that has literally imprisoned every single person on this globe one way or another.
And now your masters want to seal the deal By making your person, your individual, a digital footprint being on the globe.
They do.
They do.
I mean, a year ago, plus, Dr. Houston came on and told us all this was going to happen, and here we are.
I mean, did you ever think that this could even be considered?
That you would be digitized as a human being?
And put into a system that technically you're already in.
They just need to seal the deal with a digital footprint that will track everything you do.
I mean, all those capabilities that are available now.
I mean, it even makes you think things and you don't even know it.
AI is controlling your mind.
Social media, the pop-ups, all this stuff in the back of your mind.
Oh, yeah, I could use that camping tent.
You're just talking about it around a fire the night before.
Ridiculous!
But they want to track you.
They want to put you into this software, this trackable real-time chip in your digital ID that I would bet in no time at all would go under your skin.
No choice.
Mr. Elon Musk, you know.
Mr. AI himself.
Now, I opened up with the good pastor telling us how Satan rules, you know, the AI, the air.
My first thoughts were the radio waves, and it's funny when Charlie, the kid that does the graphics around here for us, he made the Cyber Satan behind the mic.
It's very cool.
You know, and he told me, he says, you know, you're not going to have a job.
I mean, I'll have a job, but it'll be an AIJP.
You won't get this, which is ridiculous.
What fun is that?
But this is what these kids are into.
I mean, Charlie is like the A.I.
kid.
I would love to have him on the show.
He's like the A.I.
kid.
I like everything about A.I.
You know, he wants to go crazy around here, believe me.
And that's what we need to do, is I put reins on these people here.
You can't do certain things to the computers.
That's what we need to do globally.
We need to put a rein on these people.
We need to stop.
See, A.I.
only goes as far as somebody trains it to go.
A.I.
has a narrative.
A.I.
has objectives.
A.I.
Oh my God, just the thought of it is just... I mean, could you have a, you know, like an A.I.
Clyde?
It just wouldn't be the same, right?
You know, they copy your image and then they reproduce all this stuff and then you sell them the rights to you and, you know, you get your little residuals until they, you know, jab you to death.
Ha ha!
That's what we're looking at, folks!
No joke.
You know, figures for me.
I mean, you know, this, all this AI, AI, you know, DJs, AI this, AI that.
Just when I'm getting a little motion in the business, right?
Oh, well, what are you going to do?
We're getting sucked up to it.
We're forced into it.
It's a digital age.
We have no choice.
Like it or not, it's going to be our world.
And when I say Satan is the God of the air, the airwaves, the, Airwaves are like the, I think of it like radio, you know, or like TV.
It's the airwaves, you know, sports, entertainment, all this stuff literally goes through the airwaves to your home, basically.
And singing controls all that.
I mean, look at these, you know, celebrities and performers and, you know, these athletes and these ballgames and it's very mesmerizing and it, you know, it takes your attention away from what's really going on in the world.
Look over here, not over there.
It's no doubt to me that the Bible clearly describes the greatest power to the God of this world is the heir and it is Satan and he uses it to deceive the masses.
Oh, hey, watch game, man, you know.
Buy this thing, you know.
There's no God.
There's no God.
Ooh.
Okay, now, I want to tell you atheists and agnostics that, you know, I love you guys, but you're gonna have to hang through this one at least, but this guy puts it good about the God in the air thing, and I want you to hear this out, because we're gonna get into some weird stuff too, and Elon, and that rocket, and hold on.
In Ephesians 2, verses 1 and 2, we read, And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience.
In this text, the Apostle Paul describes Satan first as a prince with power, because he has authentic power in the world.
This power has been given to him by God.
Satan has power over some illnesses.
In some sense, Satan has power over death.
The reason Satan is called a prince rather than a king is that there is only one king, Jesus Christ.
Satan also has power over some people.
The Sons of Disobedience, referred to in Ephesians 2, verse 2, are those who have not trusted Christ as Lord and Savior.
The demons are also under the rule of Satan, and one of his titles is Prince of Demons, Matthew 9, verse 34.
Satan has a kingdom and a throne.
Satan is called a prince because he is a ruler and possesses power to manifest evil in the world through influencing people and commanding demons.
The air in Ephesians chapter 2 verse 2 may refer to the invisible realm above the earth, where Satan and his demons move and exist.
This space, of course, is the location of the Earth's atmosphere, or air.
In Ephesians 6, verse 12, Paul writes, "...we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places." This evil realm called the Heir could be an actual locality, but it could also be synonymous with the world of John 12, verse 31.
This whole world is Satan's domain.
Although Satan has power and authority in the current world system in which we exist, his power is limited, always under the sovereign control of God, and it is temporary.
God has not revealed all the whys and whens concerning Satan's rule, but he has made it clear that there is only one way to escape the power of Satan's dominion, and that is through his son Jesus.
It is Jesus who, speaking of the impending cross, declared victory.
Now the prince of this world will be driven out.
John chapter 12, verse 31.
I wouldn't be a good Christian if I didn't let him plug Jesus in there.
So there you go!
There you go.
Uh, nice man, Pastor Nelson, but that's where we lose the atheists and the agnostics, sir, is when, uh, well, we don't know the whys and the whens, you know, that's what the people are wondering.
That's, I guess, folks, it's just not for us to know.
Now as we've seen Elon's rocket take a nosedive today, we're hearing a lot of folks talking about the firmament, okay, and that how the rocket was sent up to the firmament and it couldn't break through and maybe it did break through and actually they were talking about water coming through it.
And it's here's where here's what things get just just everything's it looked like to me.
I'll be very honest with you.
It looked like to me that the rocket just you know, the fuel cell came off and that kind of jazz and then the rocket blew up.
I mean, it just that that doesn't happen.
You don't know what to believe anymore.
That's the problem.
And I don't have a lot of experience in firmament.
Okay.
Uh, I didn't know.
I mean, I heard the term it's I think biblical in a way, but, but this guy put a little quickie together as a fast one.
I didn't believe me.
I didn't, I couldn't tolerate it anymore.
And I'm not saying I'm a flat earther.
So calm down.
I just, you know, these days it says, God said, let there be a firmament in the midst.
The audio sucks.
I'm going to divide the waters from the water.
So this is creation.
What happened is there was water, and God put a firmament between it.
You see that dome?
I'm going to explain to you what that is through Scripture.
I think that's where the flat earthers come in in this one.
And everything is within the firmament, not out in the universe.
Let me prove that to you.
And it said in verse 7, God made the firmament and divide the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament.
So you see that there's waters which we have under the firmament, sea, land, that's under the firmament.
Then there's waters also above, keep that in mind, above this firmament.
What does firmament mean?
Well, firmament, the first word firma, actually just means solid, and ment is just the end of a noun.
He says it's glass.
If you look in Ezekiel chapter 10 in verse 1, it says, Then I looked, and behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims, there appeared over them, as it were, a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne.
So above the cherubims is God's throne.
And there's a firmament above them.
Okay, we'll knock that off for now.
And so, in the flat earth realm of people, I would think that's what they're talking about.
Sure seem like it.
They want you to believe, I guess this is in the Bible, that there's this firmament, okay?
This glass firmament that can't be penetrated.
And everything is actually, we're not in The universe, everything is capped in our little firmament.
And a matter of fact, there's water around.
This is all too, how can you believe anything anymore, right?
Right?
And you sit here and you say to yourself, my God, what happened to the world?
I mean, has NASA lied to us?
I mean, did we really go to the moon?
I mean, when I say question everything, I mean everything.
Especially when, you know, Elon's little toy rocket has 33 engines on it.
Symbolism will be their downfall.
I mean, too bad, you know, we're all going to go down with them.
But you know, the whole Elon story went viral because of AI.
I mean, that's for sure.
You know, it's, it's designed to deceive the world.
It's programmed by its programmers, period.
That's how, that's how it starts.
Look over here, not over there, you know, the same old story.
I mean, they're already in control of every one of our basic needs.
Gotta check the bank, go to your portal for the doctor, auto pay this, you know, rapid pay that, Uber this, Pizza Hut that.
It's all on the app.
It goes on and on.
App for everything now.
We're prisoners of a system and you and I don't even know it.
And we didn't agree to this to begin with.
We really didn't know, but yet here we are now.
We're in this major information grab system.
I mean, we're in a time where intelligence is actually outsmarting us, and I don't think personally we can stop it at this point.
And if you believe like I do, Satan is the ruler of this world, and you know, I mean, You know, I'm beginning to think Elon is the Antichrist.
I mean, I'm not kidding.
He's a strange cat, no doubt.
And you know, he's got some, you know, I got to look at everything that way.
That's just the way I roll.
You know, and I'm not pushing it on you, of course.
It's all up to you, what you want to believe.
And that's the kind of way the world needs to be.
You know, it shouldn't matter what you politically believe.
It shouldn't matter what, you know, color you are.
It shouldn't matter what you believe spiritually.
None of anybody's business, but we've seemed to get into this world and AI, AI is picking all this up.
So here's one of your beloved Antichrist candidates.
I think we should be very careful about artificial intelligence.
If I were to guess at what our biggest existential threat is, it's probably that.
So we need to be very careful with artificial intelligence.
I'm increasingly inclined to think that there should be some Regulatory oversight at the national and international level, just to make sure that we don't do something very foolish.
I mean, with artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon.
You know all those stories where there's the guy with the pentagram and the holy water, and he's like, yeah, he's sure he can control the demon.
Didn't work out.
I take it there will be no Hell 9000 going up to Mars.
Hell 9000 would be easy.
It's way more complex than, I mean, put Hell 9000 to shame.
Yeah.
I'd like a puppy dog.
It is complex.
It is very complex, as Elon tells us, because it's encapsulated every, every, every piece of information.
Every piece of information.
I mean, that right there was from the hellion's mouth himself.
I mean, you know, he shows himself a grave concern over AI, a technology he literally helped create, if not created it himself.
You see, I call Elon the Antichrist for a few reasons.
I mean, you guys know, I have always said that, you know, I've clung to the Obama as Antichrist and I still, he's still one of my good candidates, no doubt.
But Elon is doing some really creepy stuff besides he's throwing these toy rockets up in the air, you know, and people think he hit the firmament and, and you know, the unfortunate thing is you and I paid for that rocket today.
You know, we did one way or the other.
So there you go.
Anyway, so we know we're in this satanic system, this system with symbols and signs that show us we have learned that the devil and his dominions are in the air and we also know that, you know, the symptoms that you and I are locked into this system and we've been given no choice.
Everything that we do is locked into the system.
Beyond a matrix that, you know, you could see like in the movie, but, but this is, this is very real.
This is what you can't get out of this.
You can't get out of this.
Now this one is, this one is a lady named Dolores.
I have no idea who she is.
I have no idea.
But Dolores is some kind of, I guess she's somebody that studies Nostradamus.
And she's got a pretty crazy take on Antichrist.
Check her out.
Nostradamus saw in his future three men that he called antichrists.
One was Napoleon, the second one was Hitler, and the third one is the one that is to come, who is said to be the worst of all because he will learn from the mistakes of the others.
A very dangerous person.
He didn't like the term Antichrist.
He said it was a Christian term and it was not exactly what he meant.
But he said if you think of Christ as representing people, humanity, then Antichrist is someone who does terrible things against humanity, against people.
And it can be the type of personality like Genghis Khan or Attila the Hun.
The type that doesn't care anything about what it's doing.
It only wants power.
So this is what he meant by an Antichrist.
But the third one, he gave us a great deal of information about him because he wanted us to do something to stop the man.
He said, in the Bible, in the book of Revelation, and other books in the Old Testament, the people saw the same things that he saw, the prophets did.
They only put them in their symbolism they could understand in their time.
But they all saw the same thing.
And that the man he refers to as the Antichrist is the number 666 in the Book of Revelation, called the Beast.
Of course, he said 666 also refers to his connections with computers.
So there's a lot more to it.
But he has been predicted as far back as Bible times.
So he said he has a destiny to fulfill.
He has to come, but after he comes, what happens after that is in the hands of mankind.
Do we allow it to go through the worst case scenarios or can we lessen it?
That's the point.
But the man is alive now and he has his destiny to fulfill.
We were given a lot of information about this man because he is so important.
We have his horoscope.
He was born on February the 4th, 1962 in Jerusalem, but he's not Jewish.
And his parents were killed during the Israeli war.
And when he was about six or seven years old, and he was raised by his uncle.
His uncle is a very evil man, and we have had many people see him, and we have in my work, and we had one woman who was able to put together a police composite picture of the uncle and of the Antichrist.
She was a psychic who had worked with police on many cases, so she knew how to do the police composite kits.
But the uncle took the young boy and was raising him as his own.
What the young boy doesn't know was that the uncle had his parents killed so he could have him for himself.
And he has gotten together a very powerful group of rich Arabs in the Middle East and they've been taking care of this young boy and grooming him for the role he is to take.
It's a very powerful group of people that control everything that happens in the Middle East.
They're the puppet masters behind the scenes.
Nostradamus said, by the time seven puppets arise in the Middle East, you will realize what is happening.
That they are not the real leaders of the countries, but they are the puppets being manipulated by the puppet masters behind the scenes.
The young Antichrist went to college in Egypt.
And we were working on this the same time he was in college.
So we were shown several scenes of him in college.
We knew where he was living.
We had all this information.
His main courses that he took were economics, philosophy, and computers.
The computers were going to be very important in his future that he was planning.
But after he got out of college, he lives on the different estates of these very rich people.
He has no home of his own, but travels around to the different estates.
And we saw him once in a big estate on the banks of the Nile, and another one in Syria.
And in Oman, during the Gulf War, Oman is the bottom of Saudi Arabia.
So we saw him in all of these places during the Gulf War and he's traveled around from place to place.
Well, Nostradamus said, you must remember, you must remember that this, in the beginning, this man will appear as a savior.
The man with all the answers.
The man with the golden tongue.
This is how he will make his conquests in the beginning.
But he said, you must remember, he's not what he appears to be.
He's the wolf in sheep's clothing.
Because by the time people realize what is happening, then everything will come, it will all come out.
We were told in 1995, if you were watching, you'd become aware of these people and what they are doing.
And, of course, I get lots of mail from people trying to tell me who they think the Antichrist is.
But a lot of the people they have told me about, I think, are members of the group.
They're very rich, but I don't think they are the Antichrist because they don't fit all of the other criteria.
So you know when I was cutting that earlier I was trying to think Who could that be?
That knocks out my two picks.
That knocks out Obama, right?
That knocks out Elon because he's South African.
We don't really know where Obama was born, but we're going to say somewhere in Kenya.
You know, him and the large woman vacation there a lot.
So there goes my picks.
And what really bugs me is that she never really tells us who the Antichrist, who Nostradamus So I started thinking we opened with Yuval Harari and it would be worthy of maybe doing some research on Yuval because he's very implemental.
He is like a god to even Obama.
I'm not kidding.
You can look this up.
Obama has supported all his work.
It's true.
It's true.
So that would be worthy of looking into because I don't know where he was born and he's a creepy dude.
We got a lot of creepy dudes running around the world.
I mean, um, You know, nevertheless, the Antichrist or the Satan that owns the system, owns the world that me and you are in... I mean, it's going... This guy, this Antichrist, okay, is going to rise from the ashes...
So something horrific is going to have to happen for the world to trust this person that is going to rise up.
And this person already controls all this.
Listen, Yuval Harari is very implemental in all this AI business.
I mean, this is what he's telling you that humans are hackable and that, you know, That, you know, he tells us that, you know, you won't need nothing, you know, that you'll just sit around, do drugs and play video games.
This is the same guy, that you're wasteful eaters, you're useless people, that you don't have the intelligence level to be in this new world, but they'll see you on the way out.
I mean, I guess the question is, how do we get out of this, you know?
I mean, there are people that are like selling everything, they're going to the mountains, they're going to the ranch, they're getting an island somewhere.
But I mean, do we ever really escape from this system?
I mean, could it be to the point where you could be so self-sufficient that you'd be like, you know, like an indigenous tribe out there in the middle of nowhere?
It might be a better life.
The answer, quite simply, my friends, is no.
We're not going to get out of this.
We're going to endure the pain for the next transition of this earth.
Now, here's a piece that should make you feel really good.
Hold on, let me get this for you.
Well, we had a good run.
The Biden administration asking the public for help regulating artificial intelligence after a bot laid out plans to destroy humanity.
It also comes a month after Elon Musk joined other tech leaders warning about the risk to society if AI is not reined in.
Jake Denton is a tech policy research associate at the Heritage Foundation.
He joins us live in studio.
Jake, I have to admit, I'm absolutely terrified of this.
And you know, my mind always go to, you know, when you see this, this chaos is, These Fox people.
Tweet, human beings are among the most destructive and selfish creatures in existence, but there's no doubt that we must eliminate them before they cause more harm to our planet.
That's you and me.
I'm committed to doing so.
Like, my heart rates up when I talk about this.
We talked about this before we came into this segment.
It's in movies.
So somewhere, somehow, they came up with this.
I mean, is this enough to be scared about?
Yeah, so you know, Hollywood has been the reference point for a long time for how, you know, normal people can understand this outside of the lines of code.
And it's absolutely something to be scared of, right?
These are well-founded ideas and fears of the AI space that have been represented in Hollywood.
And they're now something we're grappling with in real time.
And unfortunately, you know, We've been caught flat-footed.
There is no regulatory framework.
Companies like Microsoft and their their layoff waves get rid of their entire ethics team that's tasked with handling these things.
That's a very scary thing and all of a sudden we're looking at widespread commercial deployment.
Things will be ingrained in your own laptops and you know you can't get away from it everywhere.
There'll be nowhere to escape so if it isn't built on a solid foundation it is a very scary thing.
If you think that's scary, how scary is it that Joe Biden and his administration are like, we don't know what to do.
Maybe public you can help us out.
That's chilling.
Yes.
So the regulatory comment process is something that's very common, but it's not often engaged with across the kind of the average people.
This one's notable because I mean, frankly, it's, it's quite obvious.
Our regulators have no idea how to handle this.
There's There's a reason we haven't built out this regulatory framework.
So the comment process on this particular issue is going to be very impactful.
Anyone from a viewer to a parent, anywhere in between can actually chime in here and give their perspective.
And frankly, it might be more informed than the person tasked with writing the framework.
Folks, it's moving way too fast.
And, and no, it's by design.
I mean, every single thing we do in our life is already tracked, traced and, and documented.
Believe me, you can't get away from it.
It's pretty much implemented into the whole system.
Everything it decides, you know, everything we do, you don't even know it.
I mean, it does influence you.
And you know, you're on social media, might set the course for your day, depending on what you read.
Kind of scary, you know, is what if the system decides that really we are The, just the filth of the earth where we're like cockroaches of the earth and humans need to be exterminated.
You know, clear in this kind of computerized thinking mind, if the mother earth was the goal, this climate change, all these things that they're pushing this narrative, that's just not true.
Well, the computer would say, Oh, you guys have got to go.
You're the roach of the earth.
I mean, you know, it's just so, when you think about the enormity of AI, the control over this planet, over you, over me, over every single person, every being, it's overwhelming.
And it doesn't seem like there's a solution or an answer that you or me or man, anybody could bring.
You know, in a normal world, you, me, Trump, if we were president, we would be making decisions that wouldn't have allowed this to happen this way.
But we know that that's just not where we're at, you know.
We're at this point where everything... we look like we have no choice.
Like we're screwed.
We're done.
This is why I believe in the little silly story of Jesus.
I'm not even kidding you.
I mean, I had my epiphany.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
But I'm just telling you, it's the only thing for me that gives me hope in such a crazy world.
Because even the...
Pretty strong atheists have been emailing me, you know, some folks that I know and such and they do kind of agree something strange is going on and they can't explain it.
Don't get me wrong, we didn't have a hallelujah party!
No, we just, you know, chit-chatted and Nobody knows where we're going in this crazy ordeal.
And, um, it's, it's a little disturbing.
So, you know, I always tell people, well, make sure you got the, Hey, I got me one of those gravity water filters.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
I have a whole swimming pool out there.
If we run out of water.
Hey, it was a good investment.
You know, you can take that thing camp and put it right here.
The water over here at the industrial park is terrible.
Oh, I would never drink this water here.
It's awful.
You know, and that's another thing.
They're just poisoning us to death with all the food in the air, everything we drink.
It's all poison.
Sugar this, sugar, sugar, sugar.
I mean, I went to the doctor last week.
That was fun.
That was fun because I'm one of those guys, you know, and I question everything, even them.
I mean, I know in their hearts that these young doctors are doing it because this is what they trained for.
This is what they went to school for.
This was their goals.
But these young doctors are not the doctors of the past.
They're following protocol.
They're following procedures.
They're following narratives.
Now they didn't make us wear masks, which was nice, but the doctors had masks on, which was okay with me.
I don't give a rip.
But what's the first thing they want to do?
They want to prescribe you medication.
They don't, you know, what happened to this world?
Oh wow, we gotta move a little here.
We don't, we have all these problems, these cancers, we have all this, you know, obesity and diabetes and all this, you know, eating like kings type behavior.
And we'll take a pill for that, we'll eat a box of Ding Dongs every week and take this pill Because this is, this is good for my, my, my, my illness that you're causing upon yourself instead of, you know, making some life changes, some true life changes.
Hey man, get the laundry off that exercise bike and ride 10 minutes a day.
Just 10 minutes would make a difference.
Quit sucking down the ding dongs.
No, but these doctors just want to, you know, they don't give you any kind of real, Yeah, I'm a did you hear Dana White this week?
I'm with him.
I'm with him there.
I am never ever ever going to allow a medical professional or the medical community make decisions for my health ever again.
Unless I got a bone sticking out of a leg or my arm is broken or you gotta have surgery.
I'm not.
I'm done.
And many of us are done too.
And I mean, I was nice with the young lady, but I told her that you know.
You guys have blown it with the public and that's your clientele.
You're going to have to build that trust back.
They get paid, man.
They get paid when they sell these medications.
They get paid.
Oh, you have this.
We prescribe that.
They get their bonus.
They are legal drug dealers.
Sorry, not sorry.
Do I think all medication is evil?
No, no.
I mean, I don't know about today because the whole COVID thing changed everything with the synthetic jab and all this, all this tomfoolery that's been going on.
God, these poor people that have died.
So I don't know if we could ever trust even a pill coming from a pharmacy anymore.
Check some natural, I bought some crazy books.
I have this one book from Michael Savage.
Oh yeah, from way back and it's his herbs book from when he studied out there, out there in Fuji.
He was a botanist, that's what his PhD is in.
Superb.
And then there's another one I can't remember that I ordered recently, but everything you have around you, you don't know what your local vegetation offers.
I mean, it might be like that.
Might have to go that way soon.
The world's just flipping, man.
What is this one?
AI, what the devil looks like.
This one says AI.
You guys can see this on... Asking an AI, what does the devil look like?
You can only see us on Aftermath.
Wow.
AI renditions of the devil.
Woo!
Crazy world.
Yeah, this technology is going to bring us to hell.
I really believe that, so... Oh, Lord, God help us.
It's crazy, man!
It's a crazy world!
All right, man.
All right, man.
Let's do this thing.
We're at the kind of mid of the show.
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Wow.
I didn't even put nothing in here.
All right.
Well, I can, I can roll with this.
You know, talking about this AI is just disturbing.
You know, that Fox lady, she was, she was a hoot.
I mean, I think she is terrified.
It's terrifying.
Maybe you're at the end of the world.
You know, what does old JP got?
10, 15 left if I'm lucky, right?
I'm okay with it, don't worry.
But, well, maybe my wife isn't.
But we got kids.
We got kids that are going to inherit this absolute crazy mess.
So I am going to, I remember Leo has a show he's on right now live.
He's an awesome guy.
Him and his wife do the, they got the coolest podcast.
You know, he's got them all on YouTube.
If you want to check them out, go check them out.
But I got a great interview here with him and I'm going to put that on right now.
Let's get you on the big screen.
Boom!
There you go.
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I like that.
I think that's very cool.
If you're not in the chat, the Paradigm Shift Capitalizing Discord, or there is a chat on Aftermath that I'm not in, maybe I'll pop in tonight since I'm kind of doing this pre-record, and this is a pre-record, but do know it's fresh, and Leo's great, and without further ado, Nice meeting you in face now.
Right.
Last time we didn't do the camera.
That's correct.
You have much better weather today.
I'm sure.
Yeah, no, no.
I mean, we were really in a very difficult situation the last time.
I think it was the hurricane here already.
So, uh, okay.
Bad weather going on.
So, uh, tell the audience for those that may not know who you are, who you are and what you do.
Okay, I'm Leo Zegami.
I'm an author and investigative journalist with a past in the dark realm of secret societies, Freemasonry, what you commonly refer to as the Illuminati, and so on.
And I, of course, have been doing this for a long time, as a lot of people probably that are following you already know that, but
Starting from 2006, I began to expose my past involvement, and also gradually from 2009 in the Japanese language, then 2012 in the Italian language, and then later on, 2015, for the English language, I started to publish books.
Books that of course, are relevant because they bring you an insider view of what is happening, and also on all the traditions, the rituals, and the symbolism of these secret societies, like I said earlier, that you commonly refer to as the Illuminati.
You do the shows in Italian I've noticed as well.
Yes, as an investigative journalist I've also started my own Italian show here in America in 2019 because when I was in Italy I was no longer permitted to really talk openly.
So what I did was in the last year or so when I was in Italy, I actually published only in the English language.
I didn't do anything in the Italian language.
I let that start again only when I was here safely in America because in Italy they wanted to arrest me.
There is a different law there regarding The so-called freedom of speech, let's say.
Here in America, of course, you have the First Amendment, but in Italy, you don't really have the guarantee for a journalist or a writer.
If you write, you can not only be sued civilly, but also criminally and end up in jail for what you write.
And they wanted to arrest you.
And they wanted to arrest me, so that was because of my books and what I had written in my books, exposing, of course, the links between the Italian crime syndicate, the mafia of Calabria, the Andrangheta, and Freemasonry.
Nowadays, the most prominent mafia in Italy is no longer Cosa Nostra, the Sicilian mafia, but it's actually the Calabrese mafia.
And they were very angry with me because I had exposed their links to Freemasonry.
Interesting.
So you were pretty much shoved out of your own country?
I had to leave otherwise I would have had a very bad time.
I mean they wanted to take my passport so that would no longer give me the possibility to go abroad.
Right.
I was receiving constant threats.
Me, my wife, my family was at risk and so I couldn't really... I can't risk my own life, you know.
If I'm on my own I can't risk my own life.
I can't risk also the life of other people.
And so we just were forced to leave Italy and that was a big decision because of course I had to also renounce to a lot of things, also properties that I had to give up.
Oh no, really?
Literally give away to... Oh man!
Because anything that I have will have left under my name will have been Gone.
Yes Wow, that is a sunk.
You know, my family's from Sicily So I understand the culture is much different there than it is here, especially You know, I have Sicilian I was born in Rome, but I have Sicilian because my grandfather was a Sicilian senator Oh My father was raised in Sicily, so I understand perfectly what's going on, especially when you come from a background like mine.
I know that Italy is not really the bel paese, the nice place they claim to be.
There is actually a very dark reality behind the scenes.
Yeah, and tell us a little bit about that, Leo.
Well, I mean, you see, every single form of Freemasonry in Italy ultimately is controlled, you know, every form of Freemasonry is ultimately controlled by people who themselves are using Freemasonry not like it is here in America, only as a social kind of... Here in America, Freemasonry is mostly a social club.
A little bit like the Rotary, the Lions, you know, maybe you have a few rituals, you You indulge into these kind of activities because you want to learn.
You don't want to necessarily become more powerful.
Oh, I see.
In Italy, instead, there is irregular forms of remission, but also regular forms of remission that are involved with illegal activities.
Even covering up for the head of the mafia, Matteo Messina Denaro, who recently died, who For decades, he was protected by Masonic lodges of various kinds, regular and irregular, and he actually lived in Sicily, tranquil, until he got sick last year with cancer and he finally gave himself up.
They didn't really arrest him.
He gave himself up.
They made it seem like, ooh, he finally got the... Right, right, right.
But he was dying, so, you know.
There's no point.
You know, the guy was dying, so he just wanted to actually be cured, if possible.
And that's it.
But the problem is that now there is a president of Italy who is Sicilian, who is just as bad as everybody else.
He's a mafiosi, but he pretends, you know, these people come from maybe an environment where there were magistrates, judges, lawyers, and they are a color mafia.
That is the most, you know, how you say, the color mafia?
The black-collar mafia?
The white-collar mafia, whatever you want to call it.
It's basically those mafiosi who have gone one step further and who are basically no longer the old-school mafiosi that you would find back in the days in the countryside or with the guns, you know.
These are people who have gone to universities, who have gone to the best schools, who have connections worldwide and who work in the world of high finance and so on.
But the New World Order is made up of compromises, and, of course, the mafios are part of that compromise.
They are.
Because it's a money thing and it's all with the banks.
The banking system, of course, is about recycling money, most of all.
Either the banking system is taking money from the big pharma, or it's taking it directly from the mafias who are pouring in loads of cash that, of course, is being earned through human trafficking, drugs, and all kinds of illegal activities, including these days also bringing, for example, the so-called refugees or immigrants through
Through the borders, which is a business that they're involved in these days, both here and also in Europe.
So Leo, that's happening in Italy as well?
Of course it's happening in Italy.
Immigrants coming over and flooding like here in America?
It will never happen without the Mafia getting the money, though.
Kind of like the cartel.
Because on top of the Mafia, there is the Vatican.
That is the ultimate mafia.
That is the ultimate mafia.
And I think everybody has realized that after The Godfather Part 3.
The ultimate mafia is the Vatican.
And that's probably why they wanted to arrest you because you can't disrespect the Vatican.
Yeah, that was one thing, you know.
When I went in front of the judge, I remember it was maybe February of 2019, a few months before I left Italy, and the judge said, you know, we disregard anything you say because I know that you have talked about the connection between Freemasonry and the Vatican, and that's something you don't have to touch.
Right, right.
So the Vatican needs to not be associated in the public eye with Freemasonry?
With both Freemasonry and because it was not only exposing the Freemasonry, but it was exposing the dark side of Freemasonry linked to the Andrangheta, to the Camorra, to the Mafias.
You see, in the 70s, why did the Calabrese Mafia become so popular nowadays?
Because in the 70s, Richard Gelli was the head of the P2, reorganized the structure of the Calabrese Mafia, the Andrangheta, with the heads becoming all part of the
of the most masonically powerful supreme council that was, you know, bringing together all the heads of the various clans or the various families and they would be then brought into the lodges and then at that point they would be able to interact with the intelligence, secret services or operatives from the military, from the from the big pharma, from the military, from everything, from all the sites and walks of life, because then Freemasonry, once you get in, it's kind of...
But, of course, this might seem even far-fetched for Freemasons here in this country who are used to have the name of their lodge written at the entrance of each town and stuff.
It's not like this in Italy.
So in Italy, it's more of a crime-based, darker Freemasonry?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely not.
And they're running the drugs and they're doing the human trafficking.
It doesn't happen only in Italy because you just go over the border.
Mexico is the same thing and Central America and South America is all the same thing.
Then there is this connection also with the Jesuits, the Opus Dei.
These are organizations within the Catholic Church which are very influential.
The Jesuits, please tell us a little bit about them for those that don't know.
Yes, it is a Catholic order which was founded 1540-41 by Ignacio Loyola, and then he actually had founded it ten years prior to that in France, but it was accepted by the Pope, who at that point used it as a vehicle for the Counter-Reformation.
It was the period in which the Reformation was starting to bring more and more people out of the Catholic Church in the Protestant world.
And so...
The Vatican needed to have a way to bring them back and that way didn't even need to be too apparent or to actually be too official.
That's why the Jesuits started this order which is both military and religious and which operates in a clandestine way as well as in an official way.
You have Jesuits who are basically normal Jesuits who take only the first three vows, who are No more at times even likable priests.
Then you have those who have taken the fourth vow, the vow that basically brings them to obey only to the Pope.
And regardless of what they do, they are instructed at times even to murder people.
They will not care to do anything.
I mean, they have taken that vow, so they are putting the Pope in front of everything.
And is there another level, like a fifth bow?
No.
Then you have, you see, the thing is with the Jesuits, you have the fourth bow, which is the solemn bow that is taken by members of this order.
And then you have the so-called Luciferian court, which is made up of the Illuminati, who can be usually high-level Freemasons, who operate for them, who are their agents.
And in this situation you have, of course, also the Sabbatean Frankists who usually are in charge of the banking system, who are heretics from the Jewish world.
So, you see, after a period of service as a priest, a member of the Society of Jesus, which is the Jesuits, so you know, will be able to take this vow to express a strong attachment to the church.
But it is actually more than that, because it's limited to the priests of the society who have actually shown that they can get somewhere with that vow.
It's not that they let people to that level.
Only those who have been accepted by the society to take this vow may serve as then superiors for the local province.
Like, for example, Bergoglio before becoming Pope when he was superior of the province in Argentina.
Okay.
And then you have each province as their superior and they of course have taken this vow.
So when we had 10 years ago the arrival of the first Jesuit Pope, then it was very unusual because their vow never really permitted to To become Pope, because if you are solemnly swearing everything to the Pope, and you are yourself the Pope, who are you going to... Why?
Because a little bit... There is also other religious institutions that have this fourth vow.
There is the Religious Sisters of Mercy, the Francisco Spriers of the Immaculate, the Legionaries of Christ, the Missionaries of Charity.
But the Jesuits are, of course, Very unusual, because when they were founded, they were founded with a mission, a mission that, first of all, they explicated by going to the East, to China, to India, to Tibet,
Get the occult knowledge from these areas, the geopolitical connections, becoming even an advisor to the Emperor of China, getting closer to the Emperor of Japan, trying to infiltrate the Shogun system in Japan was also a very important thing for the Jesuits.
They have been very much involved in Asia before anywhere else in the world.
Interesting.
And then, of course, later on, they became involved in South America, and that's where they experimented the Reduciones, which became their communist experiment.
Communism was developed later on, but the initial forms of communism were developed by the Jesuits in South America, and that's why They got on the nerves of the rulers of Europe, and also the rest of the world, who in the 1770s forced the Vatican to ban them.
So they were kicked out of the Vatican for a period of time.
Oh really?
Okay.
So until the death of Napoleon, until 1815, they were kicked out of the Vatican, and only the Pope had to Do an act to reinstall them.
In the period in which they were not in the Catholic Church, they were protected by the Tsar of Russia.
At the time he was Catherine the Great, actually, the Empress of Russia.
And even if they are Orthodox, they protected them in exchange of nominating an Orthodox Jesuit general who was Russian.
And that was a brief period of uncertainty for the Jesuit Order, but eventually they came back.
And that was the period in which they were also very active in Freemasonry, in the Illuminati, laying the foundations for some of the activities that then these organizations will do in the future.
And this Jesuit is very active today.
Jesuits, I mean, they have a president.
He's called Joe Biden, who is a Catholic Jesuit agent.
I mean, we're interacting.
Sure.
They control the borders.
They are sending a caravan of 7,000 people to America in the last few days.
They are the ones behind NGOs, everything that is pushing this crazy immigration.
It's unbelievable how many people.
I'm in New Mexico, so you can imagine how many people are passing through here freely every day.
Not being sto... I just... I'm... I'm... I wake up every day and I just can't believe it.
You know?
So...
Unfortunately, people like me who instead have to go through a very long, at times difficult, and I hope successful, for obtaining my U.S.
citizenship, hopefully within the next couple of months.
Oh, that would be great, yes, definitely.
So, these Jesuits, you say they have their own army?
They are an army because the head of the organization is called a general, so the guys on the fourth bow are like military secret agents that operate, by the way, also in the intelligence department of the Vatican.
Wow.
And they have their own headquarters in Spain where they have archives which are said to be even more Some say even better than the ones at the CA headquarters in Langley, so who knows?
How many people are in this organization?
It sounds gigantic.
The Jesuits?
Well, that's a good question.
I mean, I don't think there are very many Jesuits in the world, but it's more the quality of the Jesuits than the number of the Jesuits.
I mean, at the moment, as of January 2021, There were around 15,000 Jesuits in the world.
That's a lot.
Yeah.
They're finely tuned with mission and orders.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
I mean, the pandemic may have had an effect on the decline in the number of Jesuits.
As many have succumbed to the disease, and others were forced, of course, into the vaccinations and stuff.
Right, of course, of course.
So, last time we talked, you were talking about the AI Satan?
Is that how you had put it?
Cyber Satan is a protagonist of Volume 6.66, Volume 7, which I think we discussed, and also of Volume 9, which is my latest book in which I also explain the development of quantum computers and how they will affect reality in the coming years.
And me and you, we can't have a quantum computer, is that correct?
Yeah, that is the digital divide which I discussed in my book.
You know, they are expensive.
They cost millions of dollars.
They have a cooling system which is extremely expensive.
So, the only ones who can afford it are millionaires or the military or big institutions.
Why is it so important to quantum computers?
Because they can break into every single password or blockchain or anything.
So the ultimate digital divide brings the people who own these computers to another level.
Wow.
So that means nobody gets away.
With these people, with these quantum computers, no.
And the thing is that AI is already becoming dangerous and obviously is being discussed at the public level, but nobody is discussing then the next level, which is the quantum computers that will develop the AI to such a level which even humans will no longer be capable of controlling.
This AI, I mean, what is your take on AI?
What do you think it connects with the material and spiritual world?
I think there's something going on there.
Well, in my book, for the second time, because I already had mentioned this in Volume 7, I explained how the AI is the product of reverse engineering that started in 1950s, reverse engineering from UFOs.
And that means that we are basically working for them and creating our own digital prison around us.
Right.
So it's, of course, the The possibility that we're going to be soon enslaved is very high, and it's not from some aliens who land with UFOs on top of us, but it's rather us who carry Carry a mobile phone in our pocket and we're basically servicing the system which is letting the AI grow.
When we go on TikTok, I mean if somebody goes on TikTok, I personally don't go on TikTok, but anybody who goes on TikTok is helping the Chinese elaborate further their ultimate AI by 2030.
So Yes, you have a lot of books, and those are amazing pieces of work.
substitute civil servants, substitute lawmakers, and that is basically the ultimate project, which I explain in the seven steps of Volume 9 of my Confessions.
Yes, you have a lot of books, and those are amazing pieces of work.
I mean, you put a lot of time into that writing, no doubt.
Anybody that buys Leo's books is buying just a gem of knowledge, So let's talk about the Chinese a little bit.
They don't seem to have a religion, but they seem to want to have world domination.
Do you think they could accomplish that?
I talked about the Chinese in Volume 2 in particular, a book that was very controversial.
In fact, this book was prohibited for some reasons in the prisons of Arizona or in other states.
I don't know why.
I don't want people to read this book in a prison.
It was also a book which they threatened to take out of commerce.
The Satanists actually directly threatened with a lawsuit.
They want to move against my publisher and some of these organizations which I had exposed.
So in Volume 2, I talk though about the link which we have with the Chinese Freemasonry, the Hongmen.
It's known as the Hongmen, the Tiandui.
It's old secret societies that were in China, pre-existing Freemasonry, that once they saw how Freemasonry operated, the symbols of Freemasonry, like Chinese, they always copy, so they picked up the compass and the square and the whole thing, and they brought it in their own.
But it has nothing to do with the development of Freemasonry in the rest of the world.
They simply picked up the symbols and they used them for their own organization and the concept also.
So, these lodges developed and the mother lodge, the most influential lodge of Chinese Freemasons is actually not in China, but it's in San Francisco.
Oh, no kidding.
Wow.
And it's connected with the Democratic Party.
Of course.
Of course.
The fine Democrat Party.
Yes.
Oh boy.
Okay, so everything I'm hearing you say, no matter what we talk about Chinese, the Vatican, Soviet, Freemasonry is connected to everything.
Well, yeah, in one way or another, of course.
And when it comes down to spirituality, the Chinese, of course, they have thousands of years of spirituality.
But in a way, everything has been restricted and controlled even further after the Communist Party took control of the country in 1949.
So the spirituality they have today is only the spirituality permitted by the government.
Any practice That goes against the government.
They want to be in control of the religious and spiritual side, aside from, they want to be in control of every side of your life.
And that's why in 2018, in the fall of 2018, they made a secret deal with the Vatican, a deal which was then made public, but the content of it was always kept secret.
We don't know to this day, the actual agreement was renewed.
And this agreement brought to the persecution of the underground Catholic Church present in China illegally.
And the recognition instead of the official church that was basically created by the Communist Party.
I mean, the Pope ended up recognizing bishops nominated by the Communist Party.
This is insane!
What kind of apostolic lineage do you have?
From Jesus to Peter to who?
Karl Marx?
It's obvious that That this is heresy.
And this Pope is an heretic.
Of course, the Jesuits have a long story with China.
Almost five centuries of presence in China.
Okay.
Very influential in China.
Matteo Ricci, one of the first Jesuits to ever visit China, even has a shrine in Beijing to this day.
And so the Jesuits, the moment in which the Jesuit Pope arrived in the Vatican, China started to pump money inside the Vatican, like $2 billion a year.
Wow.
Wow.
The Jesuit Pope, you say they have their own Pope?
Well, no, we have a Pope who is a Jesuit.
He's a Jesuit, gotcha.
So the moment in which the Jesuits arrived to the throne of St.
Peter, as is known, that was a big thing for the Communists.
They knew that they had a friend in power.
Wow.
So with Ratzinger, there was a fight still going on between China and the Vatican.
Then this fight ended with the arrival of the Jesuits in power.
This, um, I think something that people really question is this situation we recently had with two popes.
And people, we already know that Pope Francis, there's some issues, but Benedict, um, you know, how did that happen?
That hadn't happened in over 600 years.
The Jesuits went to him a year before, basically a few months before the summer before he gave his resignations, and they basically threatened him.
They said, it's your time.
It was Cardinal Maria Martini, who is a famous Jesuit in Milan.
And this testimony comes from his assistant, who gave this, now he's no longer alive, but his assistant gave this testimony, that when Ratzinger arrived for an event in Milan, he was basically invited to resign by Cardinal Maria Martini, who was, by the way, the mentor of Bergoglio, and who was a member of this lodge in San Gallo, in Saint Gallen, in Switzerland, in which the Jesuits had established a lodge
There was talk that Benedict was more, I don't know if you would want to say conservative, but he wasn't in the progressive movement.
He was becoming an irritant.
Of course more conservative, but he had made way too many compromises.
He himself had participated to the Second Vatican Council, so in the end he wasn't really a super conservative.
He had too many skeletons in the car.
He had protected too many pedophiles.
He could be easily blackmailed and that's really what I think made it impossible for him to stay and he was almost forced to do what he... this unprecedented gesture to resign was forced.
It wasn't a natural thing.
It wasn't just because he was sick or because he was... The Pope that we have now He could have resigned, but he has decided to stay because he is, at the moment, rigging the system by nominating more and more cardinals that follow his own diktat so the next pope can be elected.
It's a little bit like packing the Supreme Court with, you know, one side or the other.
Oh yeah, yeah, they pack the courts, exactly.
Yeah.
This Pope of today, I mean, is he going to be the last Pope as they say?
We hope not, because, I mean, we don't know what's going to happen, but it's of course the prophecies that talk and say he might be the last Pope.
In the end, we know that he's definitely the last Pope because he's no longer himself even calling, you know, he has changed in the documentation that is published each year his own name, and he mostly calls himself Bishop of Rome.
He no longer really... Oh, is that right?
Yeah, it's more like trying to show that he is simply a guy amongst many other people in a communistic fashion, let's say.
He wants to destroy the image that the Pope was almost a divine being interceding with God.
He is trying to He's trying to stay there, like I said, to pack the next conclave and make sure that the next Pope, that will be a black Pope, in this case an African Pope.
But he will no longer be a Pope in the same sense as before, because already in this last synod that just took place, the values that they are pushing are very progressive, and the acceptance of all these progressive values is gradually mining all the certainties that a lot of conservative Catholics had.
They are finding themselves more and more in difficulty in a church like this one, where you have maybe a guy like Vigano who openly talks against all this, but It's no longer having any kind of official capacity.
And while instead, if you like the Bishop, for example, in Texas, who went against those sisters of whatever, or how they were called, those drag queens that used to dress up as nuns.
I see.
Yeah, who was it?
The Sister of Perpetual or whatever.
I don't remember.
They had a strange name.
But in any case, the bishop who criticized them, then he himself was put under investigation by Pope Francis.
Wow.
Yeah.
You know, I have... This is a perpetual indulgence, that was the name.
There you go, there you go.
Yeah, wow.
I have a friend that unfriended me after decades of friendship since our childhood because I had put up a meme of the Pope, and I can't remember which one it was, but a lot of people adhere to the Catholic religion, and especially the Pope.
How do you convince them that there is some real bad business going on with the Pope and, you know, with this Catholic religion?
I mean the pedophile thing is exposed and some people still don't accept it.
Yeah, yeah, still don't accept it, but nowadays the bodyguard in theory is bankrupt if they have to pay all the money that all these, you know, lawsuits and all these people.
They usually count always on the fact that it happened a long time ago, so the Statute of Limitations stops everything and they kind of like take advantage of that, just come out maybe when the Statute of Limitations is... So, I think that the problem here is that If you're born within an environment which is, you know, you are born Catholic, so you're born within a community.
You don't want to necessarily offend a community.
But when these things happen and people know about it, of course then they are saddened by these events.
When they see also that the Vatican doesn't take the necessary action, they're also saddened about it.
And only when they're really pushed and the Pope is always there saying, oh sorry, We should have done something but you know he comes out but then he comes out and he simply it's it's like a facade because then probably there is many other things that especially in the nominations that when he nominates
People in the various institutions of the Catholic Church, and we see that he nominates people who were pedophiles, who were condemned, who were... Then we see that this Pope is not genuine.
We see that he... How can you follow a Pope that is nominating somebody who was a pedophile, or somebody who covered up for pedophilia, or somebody who... It doesn't make any sense, but unfortunately that's the case.
Leo Zegami has been, of course, censored by the Catholic media.
In Italy, my books were even put out of commerce.
I had publishers who had a lot of problems when I brought out the first edition of the book dedicated to Pope Francis.
And even the second one, and they simply, you know, there will be a lot of shops, a lot of distribution will refuse to carry this book.
There is, of course, they're very powerful.
But when actually you go to the Vatican, and I was, you know, I was a guy who was brought up in Rome, who knows a lot of people also in the Vatican, who was very familiar with the Vatican.
When I went to the Vatican, people were actually treating me very well, because they were like, wow, this guy is on target.
And I was like, oh, well, I won't tell anyone.
Of course they do!
You know?
That kind of thing, you know?
So, that's how it is.
It's sad, though, because then you had, you know, then the people who were spreading this information say, oh no, Mazzacami's a Satanist, that's why he's attacking his this, so he's this sad, that's why he's attacking the Catholic Church.
These days, even within the alternative media here in the U.S., Nobody wants to touch on this subject anymore.
Even the ones who used to be on the front line to expose the Vatican have given up.
The Vatican is a mystery, no doubt.
It's a city, right?
Everybody that doesn't know, it's a city of what, about 800 people?
Yeah, it's a city within a city.
About 800 people who live in this work, live in this city.
It's Rome, basically.
It's just a small enclave within Rome.
They have, of course, their own taxing system.
It's an advantage for them to not be subject to the tax laws of Italy, so they take advantage of that.
They have their own banking system, which was, in fact, very much used by the mafias to recycle money, because their banking system is very secretive.
There was actually, between Ratzinger and Pope Francis, there was a lot of gold that ended up abroad before passing on the church to Pope Francis.
We've heard that.
There's a lot of gold in Vatican City.
And there was a lot of gold that was put in foreign banks, like the Deutsche Bank, because of Ratzinger and what he was doing.
They're laundering the money?
They were laundering the money, but now it's becoming increasingly difficult, of course, with all these new laws.
They have to gradually be forced into bringing themselves up to the modern standards, you know?
But up until 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 years ago, They have been recycling an immense amount of money.
I mean, when the Shah, for example, of Persia ended up his rule and Khomeini came in in Iran, there were entire planes of gold that were brought out to the Vatican from Iran.
Wow.
When the mafias make the money, the Casa Cosa Nostra, the Ndrangheta, they all give money to the Vatican in exchange of protection, in exchange of blessings, between brackets.
Blessings.
Then, you know, maybe officially they will be like condemning, you know, we condemn the mafia, all these evil people, all these poor priests have been killed by the mafia.
An external facade.
Because in reality, they've been recycling all that money for a long time.
And also, I mean, they have been like, literally, the head of the mafia, Matteo Messina Denaro, was said to have been seen many times within the Vatican walls dressed up as a monk.
You're familiar with them.
So, so, you know, a lot of organizations launder money like, like Joe Biden.
And, um, you know, this digital dollar is coming up.
How is it going to affect all this dark money that needs to pass through?
That's why there's been a lot of reforms that have been discussed in the last few years, especially with the Vatican Bank.
The E.U.R.
has made itself into a constant reform in the last few years to try to clean up their position, because they know that they will no longer be able to do the same things they were doing before.
With the digital currency, it will be, of course, a great reset of the whole system.
But let's remember that this Great Reset affects us, because the people who are really on top of the system, like the Vatican, their bankers are the Rothschilds.
Are the Rothschilds going to be affected?
No.
Of course not.
These people, they continue with their ordinary business.
My latest book, I also showed the compromises of the Vatican Satan in regards to the war in Ukraine, and what is happening also with that, and the fact that they have been supporting for the last two centuries, the Vatican has been
behind the creation of the Ukrainian identity with various secret societies, and eventually with a society called the International Order of Sanzanislaw, which is symbol, is actually used by the Ukrainian armed forces in which Volodymyr Rozelensky is a member.
The blessings, in fact, the Pope made were not on a normal Ukrainian flag.
It was brought to him by the Ukrainian flag with the symbol of the national forces, of the Ukrainian national forces.
So nowadays there is this big war, but it was mostly because they wanted to destroy orthodoxy.
They wanted to destroy a competitor.
They see the Orthodox Church as a competitor now.
Orthodox Church is divided in three factions, mostly two factions, but let's say three.
The factions of Kirill in Moscow, which is True Orthodoxy, and you have the faction of Constantinople, which basically is a different faction, and that faction is controlled by Freemasons, just as the faction in Romania, controlled by Daniel.
So, the Patriarchate of Constantinople has a lot of connections with Freemasonry, and It's a political thing.
Religion is used in a political way, unfortunately.
Politics is taking over the world.
Tell us a little bit, there's a lot of rumors, conspiracy theories, what have you, that the Vatican has stored many different books and secrets and astronomical issues that they know that we don't.
Do you know anything about that?
Well, of course, they have an incredible library, which is, you know, these archives are forbidden to most of us.
And in fact, going back to the Orthodox Churches, of course, you know, he's trying to bring all of Christianity together.
So Bartolomeo I goes with him, all the people who go with him then can partake with his next project, which is this One World Religion.
But behind this One World Religion, there is a project that, of course, involves
The arrival of the Messiah, the arrival of the Antichrist, and all this knowledge that they have buried into these archives, incredible library of the Vatican, it involves also, like I explain in this book, the finding in the early 1930s of a UFO that crashed in Magenta, Italy, during the time of Benito Mussolini, that later on
The Pope participated in giving to the Americans.
And we reverse engineered these crafts that have come in, that have given us some phenomenal technology, most of it that's been kept from us.
Yeah, and there is, like I said, in my new book I actually included some documents that prove that there was this UFO crash during Mussolini's time.
And these documents come from a very trusted source of mine called Roberto Pinotti.
They were also verified, they were also published by the Daily Mail here.
I have some of this documentation that I published in my later book, in my latest book.
And the work that is being done to show that, and actually it was confirmed by David Grush, the whistleblower.
He himself confirmed that before Roswell there was this UFO crash in Italy of some relevance.
So when you're talking about what you're going to find inside the body, and then you're going to find truths that they of course don't want you to know.
There was, of course, a series of councils that produced the Christian religion as we know it.
There was a lot of texts that were forbidden.
There was the Gnostics that needed to be fought because the Gnostics were the ones who now we call the Illuminati.
Right.
came immediately after, and also even before Christ, to try to corrupt the Jewish faith, then to try to corrupt the Christian faith, and to try to promote the knowledge of these entities that they interacted with, and that now, of course, we have reverse engineered all this technology that is going to manifest a digital prison.
What do you think about what's going on with the war with Israel and Gaza?
What's your take on what's going on there?
The take is part of this Great Reset.
It's another stage of this Great Reset, of these never-ending wars.
So, I mean, the state of Israel was, of course, constituted and created originally with the intention of giving a Jewish state to people who were persecuted with pogroms, with really heavy persecution.
But the ultimate people responsible for this crisis are not the ones that nowadays are indicated by most of us, but the British Empire has a greater responsibility.
They are the ones who created this mess in the first place.
When there was the Sykes-Picot Agreement in 1916, even before the Declaration of Belfort, which of course was then given to the Rothschild family, To demonstrate that they wanted to encourage this emigration and everything else.
But let's not forget that the English were also the ones at one point during the last phase of the war, they actually caught a lot of Jews rejected and not even protecting them from what they were escaping.
There was a lot of compromises because the Sabbatean Frankists were the ones who originally with the Sabbatai Zevi Even before Jacob Frank invited people to go back to Israel because the messianic times were upon us and Shabbatai Zevi was the messiah.
Then he was of course a bit of a flake when he converted to Islam in 1666.
But still, there are people who believed in him, who continue to believe in him, and they created the Dome in Turkey.
In the Ottoman Empire, there was always a very important presence of the Sabbateans.
Later on, then another guy arrived called Jacob Frank, who claimed to be the reincarnation of Sabbatei Zevi.
I talk about this, of course, in my book, especially in Volume 7, but also in Volume 4.
And I mentioned it also in Volume 9, because the Sabbateans, the Sabbatean Frankists, are the ones who are really responsible for Labour Zionism, Socialist Zionism.
That is the real enemy.
People confound Zionism with Socialist Zionism.
Zionism can be many things, but when Theodor Herzl initially proposed With the Zionists, the World Zionist Foundation League, the creation of the State of Israel, it was more of a nationalist thing.
But soon after, the whole movement was interfered and infiltrated by the Sabbatian Frankists, who bought that socialist, communistic element, which became quite evident in the kibbutz, which are Based on a communistic model.
Right, right.
Let's not forget that a lot of those communists in Russia ended up in Israel, especially after the failure of the 1905 revolution in Russia.
One of the Hamas founder's sons is against Hamas and he's been calling on some pretty crazy things.
He's been accused of being a spy by the Palestinians, of course, and he's given intelligence to the... Yes, you know the man.
So, he's a little rough, but he said in one of his previous videos that Hamas is going to bring God, you know, God is going to react to what Hamas is doing.
Do you think we're getting close?
Do you think that this unknown knowledge that we don't have, that they do, they're seeing that we're getting close to some big, you know, global event?
Okay, first of all, Let's go back into the history of the State of Israel.
It's connected with the prophetic timeline and also with bringing back prophecy.
Because when Theodor Herzl created, I mean, he was a journalist, he was a guy who was promoting Jewish immigration to Palestine.
But when he promoted the first Zionist Congress in Basel, and then later on this vision of the State of Israel, This whole thing.
He was also connected with people in the English establishment who inspired him to go back into Palestine in particular, rather than maybe moving to other places, because he proposed also other places.
He said the Sinai Peninsula, he said other places, not necessarily Palestine.
But the push towards Palestine started within the Anglican Protestant environment in England, who was trying to push this Because they wanted to reenact after the prophecy.
The prophecies couldn't be basically reenacted without Israel being again Israel.
Right.
Right.
was basically, you know, a guy, he was basically connected both to the Ashkenazi and the Sephardic.
Okay, so he was both one and the other.
But I think that It's important to realize that he was acting because at the time there was some really heavy stuff going on, like the Dreyfus Affair in France, some very bad anti-Semitic episodes that really pushed the Jews to say, OK, we need to do something about it.
And I think that the Jews have always been very clever in creating an alternative when they see the problem.
Like, for example, when When they saw that Freemasonry, especially in Prussian Freemasonry, didn't want to welcome the Jews.
Well, and then when they saw that the only form of Freemasonry from the Jews that actually managed to to be welcomed within the Masonic environment was actually created by the Sabbatean Frankists.
It was the cousin of Jacob Frank who created the Asian bread and who was this Masonic obedience that welcomed the Jews.
When then later on, when that failed, they created the B'nai B'rith in New York.
And it was actually German immigrants who created that in New York, German Jewish immigrants.
And they created an organization which is basically a Freemasonry only for the Jews, in a way.
So they always reacted in some way.
Now, in 1896, Hertz published a pamphlet.
This pamphlet was very important for the Jews.
It's known as the Judenstat.
It was published in 1896, in which he elaborates his vision of a Jewish homeland.
And I think That in the end, the Jewish have all the right to be where they are now because they were pushed to be where they are now.
They don't have any responsibility.
I mean, why?
They should live now after they were pushed to be there.
Right.
At the same time, of course, we can see That the Gaza was always a problem, Gaza, but Gaza was always a problem even in the Old Testament.
If we're going to go and see Gaza cited in the Old Testament, there was always some problem going on in Gaza.
Right, right.
In fact, they say that the inhabitants of Gaza were actually fallen angels themselves, or were mixed with fallen angels.
It's a research that was conducted recently by an expert in Italy that was trying to prove that.
I think that the fact that nowadays there is this growing antisemitism is very negative.
Yes, yes.
Oh, right.
Antisematives has always come around in the worst moments of human history.
We are seeing that on the rise for sure.
You're seeing celebrities and sports figures and politicians, some, you know, showing their anti-Semite roots and how they feel about the Jewish people.
And it's a very strange day we're living in today, indeed.
Yeah, it's very sad.
But also, like I said, it's part of prophecy.
And if you are Christian, if you know what is going on, I mean, The idea of a Jewish Messiah is very different from a Christian Messiah.
Right.
But ultimately, even the Islamic world claims that Jesus will come around in the end times with the Mahdi, and so they also know that that's what's going to happen.
They know that that's what's going to happen.
So the problem with Hamas and all these Islamic factions, both in the Shiite world and in the Sunni world, has always been that they've been played very easily by external forces.
In fact, there was actually Edith Ujjeli from the P2 Lodge, who, and I cite him in Volume 3 of my Confessions, says that the United Stampers were keeping control over the whole area simply by pushing one group of Muslims against another group of Muslims.
Right.
You know, then we push two factions against each other, then the third faction can stand back and say, okay, I'm going to enjoy the spectacle.
Remember that the Knights Templar had their main castle in Gaza and their control room on top of Temple Mount.
These were the two bases in which they were controlling all of the land.
Wow.
Oh, my.
It's a mess out there, no doubt.
They didn't have thousands and thousands and thousands of soldiers.
They had the brains to control the whole thing.
Now, the problem here that people don't understand is that this crisis arrived because Saudi Arabia and Israel were about to strike a deal.
Saudi Arabia was about to become in charge of the patronage of the holy sites in the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, together with the Jordan Kingdom.
Now, the Jordan Kingdom doesn't really like to lose their exclusivity over the patronage, because the Hashemite Kingdom is a new kingdom, They make themselves big because of the patronage that they have of the holy site there.
Saudi Arabia already has patronage over the holy sites of Mecca and Medina, so that will give them the ultimate control.
But that will mean also Wahhabi Sunnis control the whole thing and not Shiites.
You have to understand there is these divisions internal to Islam.
So playing on these divisions, At one point, they push a mass into starting this operation.
And with Jordan, actually, probably has a big responsibility in it, too.
And Jordan, traditionally, is actually connected to Freemasonry.
The King of Jordan, the mother of the King of Jordan.
Freemasonry.
Yeah, connected to Freemasonry.
There is actually, I still have somewhere in my archives, a photo of the past Queen of Jordan and her Masonic regalia initiated in Italy.
And then there is another important Masonic base in the Middle East, the most important Masonic base at the moment, which is Lebanon.
Okay, oh in Lebanon, okay.
Yes, in Lebanon you have the Grand Lodge of Scotland which is very much present.
You have also though the Grand Lodge of Washington DC since 2010 with two lodges also operative there.
You have the Grand Orient of France which is also and you have even the Grand Lodge of Italy.
They have all their own lodges there.
It's full of lodges in Lebanon And maybe that is the only reason why Hezbollah has not started yet a full attack.
Right, that's true.
Hezbollah doesn't want to lose the possibility of living and residing peacefully in Lebanon.
They know that, but the problem is that they're being forced more and more by Iran to attack, and this, of course, conflict is going to spread.
But this is done in the project of the Third World War, which is supposedly part of this Greater East Sector, the ultimate in 2030, we'll see the takeover by Saddam Hussein.
Cyber Satan.
There you go.
That's what you called it.
Who will aid the Antichrist.
Of course now within the world there is many theories about who's going to be this Antichrist.
But at the moment we have various candidates possible.
Definitely we have Barack Hussein Obama who is a great Antichrist.
Great in the sense of evil.
I actually think he's going to be the Antichrist in the Bible.
Everybody loves him.
That's why I believe that, you know.
The fact that he might be a guy that will really probably even go to the Middle East and try to partake of this whole thing and maybe go back into the fold, present himself as a great diplomatic figure.
This is possible.
I mean, Obama is definitely a candidate.
Then we have King Charles and Prince William.
So these are the other two candidates.
So those are the top two.
I'm not saying there has not been another Antichrist in history, because we have many, but the most influential ones can be counted on one hand.
I mean, you have, of course, Nero in ancient times.
You have, of course, for some people even Napoleon was an Antichrist, but then Adolf Hitler was definitely an Antichrist.
And of course, now we have to have the ultimate Antichrist.
Right, right.
The ultimate.
That's the one everybody's looking for.
Leo, we burned up an hour like nobody's business.
Why don't you give a good plug for your books and your website so folks can know where to find you.
Yes, you can always find me with all my latest articles on leozagami.com, where you can also find the links to my latest books, and of course Volume 9, which is a book you can read without reading the past eight books, in the sense that this is a book that lives in a dimension of its own.
It's a book that I wrote for these incredible times we are living.
That would make you aware within the seven steps of the mountains of lies and deceit, but also it is making you aware of how to counteract and fight all this and what kind of measures to take.
We need that information, no doubt.
And of course I'm preparing a new book for next year.
Of course!
That is going to be a big surprise.
You're an amazing writer, absolutely.
Thank you so much.
It's a lot of work, but I'm trying to lay the foundations for something.
And I think that until we have the possibility of publishing these books and of actually not being censored, this is great.
I mean, I suffer censorship in Italy, so I know what it means to have your books taken away from the shelves and being persecuted for what you write.
So I'm very grateful that here in America, I'm still able to do all this.
And so God bless America.
And hopefully the next time we talk, I will be fully American.
Oh yeah.
Hey, that would be wonderful.
And we're grateful for what you do, Leo.
Thank you.
We appreciate everything you do.
And thanks for being on the Paradigm Shift.
I appreciate it.
Thank you for having me on.
It's always a pleasure.
And I will speak to you soon.
All right.
Very good.
Thank you.
God bless.
You too.
Bye bye.
And there you go, folks.
Leo Zagami.
He's an amazing guy, and he's a wonderful fella to talk to.
I just enjoy... It's not even an interview.
It's just talking.
And you know what's nice when you got two Italian guys in an interview?
You know, I'm the host, so I always want the guests to talk because I want, I bring them on that you can gain their knowledge.
So, you know, host, you know, if you're a good host, you'll shut up and let the guest, and it's no problem with that guy can talk, right?
But he's got a lot of knowledge.
I have book eight and nine, the newest one.
Boy, you know this he's got nine books and these are not small books and they are packed filled with information You're not hearing anywhere else that that's for sure when you think about Leo and and he talks about Freemasonary and if you if you got anything out of this interview you would have Really saw that free masonry is in every facet of the world.
It's everywhere.
And you know, when we're talking about this great reset, this, you know, Klaus Schwab time that's about to come.
There'll be this one world religion.
Okay, and you know that everybody thinks it's a Catholic religion, but I don't think it's going to be like that.
I think that all these religions are going to go under some kind of almost corporate, you know, protocol that everybody is going to worship whatever at that time.
It's going to be anti-Christ at some point.
I notice some people, it sounds like a bunch of gibberish too, you know?
So you sit here and you're like, Really?
Wow.
But you got to admit, I can't, well, I'm not going to say it can't get any crazier because it's pretty crazy right now.
I think we're at crazy level 9.8 personally.
So, you know, just a couple of tips to folks is that, you know, we should be planning.
You know, what if you had a storm and the electricity went out for a couple of days, you know, winter's right around the corner.
Put some things away, please, for JP.
A little water, maybe some soup.
You know, my wife made this just awesome green chili chicken stew.
You know, just had it before the show.
It's just wonderful.
It's good stuff in the winter.
Think about some batteries, you know, just some survival stuff, please.
I think we're going to see a little something going on.
I don't know what.
I don't know when.
I couldn't tell you.
I'm not a psychic.
I'm a bug guy that plays radio on the weekend.
Oh, yeah.
So I got to pull up my notes here.
Please bear with me.
Not a pro.
So, uh, we are going to have Mike Gill on next weekend.
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So he will be on the Paradigm Shift next weekend.
If you don't know who Mike Gill is, you need to start Googling him.
He has got the biggest corruption scheme against America that's ever happened, and he's got all the proof.
And he's been all over the place on every show, and he's agreed to come on this show, which I am highly honored because I know that you are going to go like whoa because some of your faves are in this thing unfortunately it's time to suck it up hear the truth accept it so that we can move on and we can improve because we are definitely
Well, folks, you know, it's we're on the downhill slope, no doubt, and it's only going to get worse.
But, you know, the good news is you and me, we can change that.
And not necessarily for us, but for our kids.
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