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Oct. 29, 2023 - The Leo Zagami Show

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CAPTAGON THE DRUG USED TO CONTROL HAMAS AND THE GAZA STRIP

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	Hello everybody!
	Well, hello everybody.
	Yes, it's Leo Friday.
	I know you'll be looking forward to this day as well.
	Welcome to Aquarius Rising Africa and welcome Leo.
	How are you?
	It's good to see you again.
	I guess we're doing okay in this side of the world.
	So we are not yet in a full-blown third world war.
	So kind of, we are enjoying the last moments of peace on this planet before, I guess, the whole thing unveils and extends beyond any control.
	It's so crazy, isn't it?
	Right?
	There's just so much craziness going on right now in all directions.
	Wow!
	Absolutely, but it is of course something that I've been talking about.
	For decades.
	For a long time.
	It's now manifesting and I guess that a lot of people are still in disbelief that things could manifest so quickly.
	So either they choose to continue living their lives ignoring everything else and maybe pursuing in a more egoistical way their own lives without thinking about the future of their own children, about the future of the world, of their friends, of their family.
	Or they become aware, but that is something that is not always easy because the awareness is not always appreciated, even within your own family.
	When you go maybe for the festivities and you start talking with your own family, then you know that is where usually the tensions.
	Here in America we have Thanksgiving, we have Christmas.
	Exactly, and they look at you like you're the problem.
	They're not quite sure whether to invite you to the dinner party or not.
	Well, I'm, thanks God, I'm on the other side of the world.
	My relatives here in America also are mostly on the other side, on the other coast, but my closest relatives, of course, live in Europe.
	So nowadays, I'm here, so I have a great excuse to avoid participating in the show.
	Polidrama!
	However, however, And I know we're going to be having a very, very interesting conversation tonight.
	The unveiling of World War III and, of course, the age of the Antichrist.
	But before we get there, I have a question for you.
	What the hell is this?
	This is a typical Italian reader, you know, you can judge from the hairy legs.
	Who has a copy of All You Make, My Confessions, in the Italian edition, of course.
	And he's kind of using it to, I guess, bring down his sexual rage.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's definitely, I mean, if you look closer there, you can see there is a beautiful Getting the lowdown scoop!
	Well, I simply had to clarify that because I was spreading a rumour on Facebook that that was you.
	No, it's not me.
	What I do, I actually actively challenge my Italian readers to bring me the most outrageous picks with the book in whatever setups.
	I didn't imagine they would come up with something like this.
	I mean, the guy, of course, was pretty lucky.
	He probably was just there by chance in this beautiful Aspen town.
	but I mean people have had a lot of success, especially on the Italian circuit, I must say.
	It's a close, Italian's a little change, I guess.
	That red-blooded Italian male stallion.
	It's brilliant, I really... Volume 8 is a very big book, as you know.
	this is Italian edition so I mean if I could put this on top it kills all your no no I don't go on the beach.
	Really cool.
	I thoroughly enjoyed that.
	So I just thought I'd tell viewers that it's not actually you.
	I thought it was you, but it's not.
	No, it's not me.
	I don't go on the beach.
	At least I haven't been on the beach lately.
	But like I said, I always invite all my readers, also my English-speaking readers, to send pics, of course, with my latest book.
	And They seem to have maybe a more conservative approach, the English-speaking readers.
	Maybe they did one, I remember, on the Pensacola beach with some cramp hats and things like that.
	Italians, fortunately.
	Well, fortunately, I guess.
	I don't know.
	I mean, being Italian is part of it.
	Well, that Italian picture certainly warranted a share.
	Very good.
	And today, of course, I mean, we wanted to start, I guess, in a light way this show also because it's so incredibly Shameful what is happening today on a worldwide level with the extensions of these wars that, you know, it's only the beginning, I guess, of this World War Three, but the whole thing is not really planning to be a very easy moment for humanity.
	Actually, the recent The recent statements made by a legendary technical analyst made me pretty worried because he said he predicts 2 billion will die in this new war cycle.
	So 2 billion is quite a big... It's like a quarter of the planet, really, because I think we're sitting on about 8 billion right now, right?
	Yeah.
	So that's a quarter of the planet gone.
	Wow.
	I would just like to ask you, what is your take, just from where you, you know, your knowledge on what's currently happening with Israel and, you know, in the Gaza Strip right now?
	What is your take on what that's about?
	Who really started it?
	I mean, we understand wars really, To make money and it's always the same fund that's funding the war.
	We know that, right?
	So what is this about, in your opinion?
	Well, it's about what I've been writing in my books and describing since Volume 7.
	I already outlined the devastating reality which was in front of us and I did that, especially in Volume 7, regarding the new Sino-Russian world order, and this of course is simply another proxy war between America, Russia and China, in a way, if we want to really be honest about it.
	However, it's also true that the ongoing war between Shia Islam and Sunni Islam, that is known as the War of the Camels, and it's been there from the very start of Islam, As being always a possibility for external forces to then diabolically manipulate one side against the other and use them strategically for their own purposes.
	This is something which I've also explained very much in volume three of my confessions where I said
	Well, I basically said that there was Licio Gelli, this famous worshipper master of the P2 Lodge, he's been dead now for a few years, but in one of his books, which he titled The Revenge of the Nice Templars, he explained how the Templars always used to use this strategy to manipulate Islamic factions against each other and keep this ongoing struggle by By certain inputs.
	That means that if they could avoid always getting the whole of Islam united, that they could avoid having a much bigger war and the possibility, of course, of being invaded and colonized themselves.
	I mean, that was, of course, at the time of the Nice Temples.
	Nowadays, what this means is that, as you can see, Israel has not yet gone into Gaza all the way, apart from some limited incursions, mostly because the moment in which they go in, the threat, the real threat is that the Sunni world and the Shia world will come together.
	Of course, Sunni world, I talk also about Wahhabi and of course also about the Saudis.
	The whole manifestation of this war came together because actually the Saudis were about to stroke a new deal with Israel and this didn't really go down well with the Kingdom of Jordan that has the patronage of the holy sites including of course the now famous I mean, always clashes on Temple Mount, but that's what happens with where there is the Al-Aqsa Mosque, the Dome of the Rock.
	And basically there is also another minor Islamic mosque there.
	And they are all part of something that is being built, of course, on the most holy site for the Jewish people, which is the Second Temple.
	It's been an ongoing confrontation.
	The fact that Jewish people started to pray again on the Temple Mount in the last few years, since Netanyahu has also taken power, we have to understand that Netanyahu is a pretty conservative force that has a lot of support from the people who want to rebuild the First Temple.
	He has encouraged almost, but also it became a confrontational hazard that in the end, unfortunately, unveiled what happened on the 7th of October with this infamous attacks on Israel.
	The response, of course, has brought many more thousands of deaths.
	So in the end, when it comes to war, nobody's really right or wrong.
	War is war.
	And unfortunately, most of today's borders have been defined by blood and wars, apart from the ones that were instead made maybe by colonialist forces like England or France with the agreement which they did in 1916, which before the Balfour Declaration actually started to define all the
	various countries around there in their sphere of influence.
	We have Lebanon, we have Jordan, we have Syria.
	We have countries that never existed before because these countries didn't exist.
	So it's like, you know, we had the Ottoman Empire, of course, And now we also see how Erdogan almost wants to go back to that leading role within the Sunni Islamic faction that once held the Ottoman Empire.
	It was them who had this caliphate with the Sultan who really led Palestine for a long time in peace.
	Because we can say that after a few centuries, Islamic presences and Jewish presences and even Christian presences were pretty tolerated within the Ottoman Empire.
	Prior to that there was no other Arabic conquistadors of sorts, which started from the 6th century onwards to point their interest towards 6th century.
	When basically Islam started, their first aim was to conquer Jerusalem.
	That didn't happen, of course, when Muhammad was still alive.
	It actually happened five years after his death, and that's why I always reiterate the fact that any claim made
	that Mohammed started to ascend from the Dome of the Rock or all that is pretty much propaganda and fictional because he was dead already so they however managed the scholars of Islam to put it together by taking one of their surahs which said that on a winged creature suddenly Mohammed went to Jerusalem and that in their own interpretation of
	Yes, because it wasn't really written exactly Jerusalem, you know, but so it's then their interpretation made possible for Islam to develop this fake myth that they, I mean, they had to develop that because otherwise they would have no possibility of still holding their position on that Temple Mount.
	It was very controversial anyway.
	When the Christians came and with the Knights Temples, they controlled that area, they of course actually the Knights Temples built their headquarters on Temple Mount.
	I mean, there was actually a will of the Knights Temples to control this area and to maintain peace amongst the various religions.
	In fact, it's a very famous The gesture which was done by one of the Templar commanders who greeted a Muslim and told him, OK, if you want, you can go and pray here.
	It's no problem.
	And they gave him the possibility to pray where there used to be a mosque.
	And he went and prayed.
	So it was like the Templars were somehow a little bit more tolerant.
	However, the Byzantine Empire that had preceded them and then It was pretty hateful towards the Jews.
	And in fact, because they were following up on what happened during the Roman Empire, which was a clash between the Jews and the Roman Empire, which led to the destruction of this temple.
	But in the end, all this controversy is made to unveil the reality of World War Three, which is basically a reality 50% geopolitical, Interesting word and really the word apocalypse or apocalyptic, right?
	directed to manifest the end.
	Yes, let's, I mean, interesting word, and really the word apocalypse or apocalyptic, right?
	I mean, for me, that can mean two things, you know, really like the apocalypse in terms of everything blowing up and we're just left with ashes and dust or nothing really, you know. - Okay.
	Or it could also mean an apocalyptic awakening within the consciousness of humanity, right?
	There were suddenly, you know, and I know it's not looking good right now when we're looking at statistics or we're just looking.
	I mean, but really, even as I say that, I wondered to myself how much of what we're being fed is actually true in terms of numbers, et cetera, stuff like that.
	I don't doubt that this thing in Israel is happening, you know, and the Gaza Strip.
	I have no doubt about that.
	My question is, you know, also I'm hearing a lot of stuff just in terms of that, that the kids in Palestine, well, the people in Palestine, more than 50% of them are under 18 or 18 and under, which means it's a very young, I mean, how does one even qualify And I say this with a great risk.
	I don't know why they are so young.
	How does one actually, in your conscience, blow up kids and take kids to war?
	And I'm not talking about the civilians, I'm talking about the governments now.
	I remember many years ago when the Sheikh who founded Hamas was liberated And there was actually, it was a part of an agreement between Israeli and Palestinians.
	And then Arafat went to kiss him in the hospital.
	And then at that point, the Gaza was like, all of the people were shouting, all of Gaza is a mass.
	So when you say all of Gaza is a mass, you are basically stating that women, child, children, everybody living in that place is agreeing with that sick and twisted terrorist mentality.
	And that is very sad, of course.
	The fact that they're very young is also very sad, because most people who reach a certain age either move to the West Bank and then from there to other parts of the Middle East.
	And basically, it's almost impossible for younger people to do that.
	They don't have the resources, they don't have the possibility.
	And so they are left in that cage, which At the same time, it's being constructed for them by both, not only Israel, and this is very important to understand for everybody who's watching us, but also by the same Arab nations that are there publicly condemning Israel, because they simply need to have this enclave of desperados.
	That's it.
	And it's sad, and it's really Unbelievable what happens, but this is the reality.
	They've been exploited, this enclave of desperados, and I'm saying the Gaza Strip, but also in part the West Bank, so that Arab nations can point their finger and say, how evil is Israel?
	And this is unfortunately a very sad situation.
	It is sad, you know, I mean, no wars ever, you know, it's always the innocence, you know, whether it's no matter where in the world it takes place, it's always the innocence, you know.
	It just leaves me wondering, where do we end up?
	But remember, the apocalypse is about the transformation, is about revelation, is about disclosure, because the actual word in ancient Greek, apocalypsis, meant that.
	So it's about A supernatural being that reveals cosmic mysteries of the future to a human intermediary who is in the case, of course, of Jesus John the Evangelist, or At least somebody who was there in the island of Patmos and received these prophetic revelations.
	Now, these revelations are manifesting, but of course we are not saying... I mean, the revelations regarding the Antichrist started to reveal themselves already from the Old Testament, and so we have also other things that...
	Sorry to chime in there.
	In terms of these revelations, I really have a question mark around the authenticity of them.
	For the simple reason that we know, and we've done quite a few decos around this as well, when we're looking at stuff like The Simpsons, And I always forget South Park.
	Like, for example, and I know there are a few others as well, those cartoons.
	We see how, over time, they've actually predicted events in these cartoons.
	And then we speak to some of the kids that have been weaponized in the system that actually foresaw these events happening.
	You know, the kids would be... I'm not sure if you're aware of that, but just if there's someone out there in the viewers who's not,
	Literally, what they do is they've had, I know with a lot of the projects, and I'm sure they're more, it would be the Looking Glass, Voice of God would be the last one, and I know there's another one, sorry, I just forget it offhand, that these kids with these special gifts are put into these projects, programs, literally, to predict future events, right?
	So, my question is, how many of these events are truly coming from God's will, right?
	Or how many of them are actually coordinated and manipulated by these nefarious creatures in the system that have been doing these atrocious things since forever?
	So, Yeah, you know, that I think for me is really what I see a lot of the time.
	What we see now, what has been predicted through stuff like The Simpsons, South Park, and I know there are a few others.
	If you look at that movie, I Pet Goat 2, as well, that movie came out a decade ago.
	The character of the Antichrist is already described in the Old Testament with Daniel.
	He will arrogantly be blasphemous.
	He will do certain things that only today, seeing what we're seeing in our society, it's plausible to say we are really in front of the last days.
	Of course, we can interpret those moments relating to other periods of the history in which there were other invasions also that touched, of course, Israel in the past.
	So when we talk about Daniel in particular, 1140, the invasion of the Middle East, this can be adapted to today, it can be adapted to yesterday.
	It's always, unfortunately, been a contested land.
	It is a land that though is manifesting a lot of forces.
	People have to understand that Temple Mount is placed on a specific geometrical pattern in the Middle East, a sacred geometry that brings us all the way to the pyramids and everything.
	And everything that manifests there is manifesting through a very powerful aggregate or fault form.
	The Antichrist manifestation today seems more realistic, but at the same time, like you said, people could say, well, they're making this up.
	Well, men can only make up to a certain extent, because you see, when it comes to all these various factions, to actually Put them together and make them work together for a higher aim, in this case the manifestation of an Antichrist or, in the future I hope, also the reception of the Messiah, being also the return of Jesus claimed by the Christians.
	These are things that, of course, people who are not religious will dismiss as fictitious and they will even accuse the Abrahamic faiths of being, you know, Never in agreement, always fighting, and always the root of every problem.
	Now, I think that it's been prophesied in all these Abrahamic faiths that the time will come when we will actually have these clashes.
	And we know that the Antichrist himself will be fought.
	There will be a battle fought in which all nations will basically Go against Israel.
	And we have, of course, also the image of the Antichrist in his tent on the Holy Mount and the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, which is also very important.
	And it's been used at times to describe the fact that the Jews who want to restore in some way this temple also to welcome what some perceive as the Antichrist.
	I personally think that at this point we are in a situation like Alexander Dugin, who is claimed to be the mind of Vladimir Putin, so he must be definitely somebody who is a little bit knowledgeable about things.
	He said that the main solution would be to have this messiah to come over and finally sort everything out.
	Zionism is not shaped in a unitarian form.
	It's not one Zionism.
	We have various Zionism.
	And unfortunately, there was those who encouraged, almost forcefully at times, the Jewish people to go back to Israel.
	And this was done because of their interest.
	And I'm not talking about the interest of the Jewish people.
	I'm talking about the interest of the great of the great powers, like in particular Great Britain, which has a greater responsibility.
	Because we said that before, you know, when it comes to the Ottoman Empire, of course, they had a big responsibility because they had Palestine for various centuries.
	But immediately after we have Great Britain, it was England that really created the basis for the Israel state in a very controversial manner.
	And plus, at the same time, we have the Holocaust, which also is one of the most dark moments in history for mankind.
	So it's obvious that we are fronting all these ghosts from the past in the present.
	But that's also a problem on how, you know, the weakness of our, both our political as well as religious leaders.
	Religious leaders are mostly corrupt.
	Political leaders, like I said in Volume 9 of my Confessions these days, most of them are a bunch of wimps who are used by the Davos establishment.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's really just one big It's one big brotherhood, the way I see it, you know.
	It's really just one big brotherhood that's got lots of tentacles, that's spread throughout the world, and it doesn't matter where in the world you are.
	Every government, I think, every country, or we can safely say most.
	Most.
	You will see things, I mean, you will see things in the coming years that will seem really brutal.
	But remember that these things were predicted, prophesied, and they are unfortunately impossible to stop for us, normal human beings who are walking, you know, this planet.
	Because when you have behind the scenes these powerful people deciding that they want to go towards the same time scenario and they want to also facilitate the same time scenario because they want to eliminate partly Humankind.
	That's why we go back to what I said at the beginning.
	Two billion might be only the beginning of this whole... Yeah, exactly.
	Eliminate, you know, I said it in Volume 7.
	I said it again in Volume 9.
	War is based on a mountain of lies, but also the depopulation project, which is very important for them, because now they have all these robots that are about to finally They wanted them to achieve for a long time.
	Before it was only the stuff of science fiction.
	Now we have something in Japan.
	It's never been science fiction, actually.
	It's always been truth, right?
	More than science fiction, it was kind of prophesying the future at times.
	Even Isaac Asimov or others, they were just Projecting what the future will be like and the future is manifesting.
	I mean, you know, I was brought up with Japanese cartoons with big robots that will fight and do all those things.
	And now suddenly today I see the image of a mega big robot that costs, I don't know, $3 million.
	That basically it's a giant robot that you can guide and you can, I mean, it's basically something incredible.
	I mean, That is manifesting and then the AI on top of it that will take care of all these robots and that we know is not really that friendly with mankind.
	So the actual incentivation also to go towards a third world war, because that's what's happening here.
	And everybody's incentivating by just going and shouting free, free Palestine or death to Israel, because they both sides are participating to this show, which they don't know.
	Exactly.
	And this is manifesting in a global war that will bring millions of deaths and they will probably be the first victims, those idiots who maybe in their universities should actually study something instead than just be victims of propaganda.
	Because one bad thing about our contemporary universities is that they have become a depository of propaganda.
	Totally.
	They have nothing to offer than brainwashed children in a future in which everybody is basically complying with this idea that the smart cities will be the solution, that everything will be driven by the AI and that robotics will take care of our jobs.
	But then what does that mean for the humans who don't have a job anymore, who are already demotivated, who are already on drugs, who are already on alcohol, who are destroying themselves already now?
	Imagine in 10 years time when they don't even have a small job because they will not be required even for the jobs at Amazon or any other place.
	Well, exactly.
	And I think that's I think the whole.
	This whole agenda, you know, when we look at what's been going on, this whole trans agenda, you know, for many decades.
	And I mean, it's really in line with what's happening now.
	And I mean, when we go back to stuff that's been brought up now, we go back to the turn of the century, right?
	1800 to the beginning of 1900, and we were talking about this, and I've mentioned this in my other shows, there's a guy, Caleb Jade, that I interviewed, and he will speak about these cabbage patch Kids, or Cabbage Patch Babies.
	And there's been a lot of speculation about where they actually came from.
	They did not come from parents.
	These kids were manufactured by the master alchemists.
	And that's how they repopulated the world, is with these kids that did not come from the womb of a mother.
	So already, for at least, and that was after the mud floods, right?
	So for at least a century, now more, this has been going on.
	I mean, there's been technology brought onto this planet that we've been kept so stupid about.
	You know, they've been giving out to us, oh, first you get a TV, then you get a remote control, ooh, then you get a cell phone, then you get a cell phone that can Have a screen on it that you can send messages with.
	Next thing, you've got live FaceTime.
	And really, very soon, we're not needing people and human contact anymore.
	Look what they did with COVID.
	All this has been unveiled, like I expose in Volume 9 of my confessions, by people, scientists who were connected to these entities that somehow we call aliens and that in a way have invited us to develop this technology.
	And now that we have this technology, they can just, you know, pull their net and we are like fish in the net for them, you know.
	So we put this basically the Trojan horse concept, which I've been also talking about.
	Exactly.
	And it's exactly that.
	You know, you talk about the technology they've brought on, and it's the exact technology that they've empowered themselves with by disempowering human beings, by giving us this bi-culture, this narcissistic culture that we're living in right now.
	We live on our phones.
	We live in, you know, everything is technology, technology.
	So it's very easy For them to get their grips into, A, the kids, because when we go back, it's really the kids that have been weaponized.
	It's the kids they're after.
	Because when they get the kids, they get the parents, right?
	And this is why, now even, with this whole transgenderism, the way they're cutting, allowing tiny kids to mutilate their bodies and start putting them on all sorts of, you know, things.
	On one side they are weakening mankind with their woke ideology and actually They are weakening the West in particular because this woke ideology is completely avoided and criticized and even condemned in China and Russia and in other countries that are waging war against the West.
	I mean, if you go and talk about woke ideology in Iran, they probably hang you upside down after two minutes.
	So we are here now with a clash of civilizations, which is, of course, built artificially in which we will have a bunch of military from America who now likes to dress in drag against the fierce military of other nations who of course have retained their virility.
	Now I know that this is a bit harder to hear for a lot of people but when it comes down to military I mean, you have to be really strong, have a modality, which mostly, even if you have, of course, women who serve as soldiers these days, but mostly it's driven by men.
	And it's the mentality of war, which we have from ancient times till now, which has always been addressed for men.
	Apart from some mythological Amazon women of the past.
	But I'm talking about the real people who go to war are usually men.
	And of course, this means that we will see a clash that will bring to their knees the West and will also immediately, you know, the moment in which we have an expanding of this war, We already see today the millennials saying, we are not going to be fighting this war.
	We want to know who's going to be going to war.
	Idiots, you are the ones who vote for this war because you are the ones who vote for the Democratic Party who is manifesting these wars.
	So just keep it in mind in your idiotic brain cells.
	The situation at the moment is like this because you give the vote to the leftist parties, who in theory should be against the war, but in reality are warmongers.
	It's so true, because, you know, when you're looking, just going back again, I mean, we're looking back to, as I said, the 60s, when the feminist movement started, they started breaking down families already.
	And that was the way they were getting kids into schools to indoctrinate them.
	And so then bringing them into the universities to take on the positions and stuff for the big positions and what have you.
	But now we're looking, and it's very interesting what you're saying, you know, this Because although there's obviously a combat warfare going on right now, the main warfare is spiritual warfare.
	And it's true what you're saying, the way that the West has been disempowered.
	You know, there's no, the whole real man, I mean, you look at men from the 40s, 50s, 60s, who really fought these wars.
	I mean, those were men, right?
	Now, as you say, there's a whole generation of Men and women, and half the time you don't know what they are.
	Is it a girl?
	Is it a boy?
	What is it?
	It's got different hair.
	It's wearing different clothes.
	It calls itself a fox, you know?
	And then, but by the same token, that for me is how China, in many ways, has disempowered the West through the buying culture, through the way they've been pushing subconscious propaganda, TV, money, all these weird gadgets and things that everyone is going for.
	And very interestingly enough... I saw one person said, are we voting for them in the chat?
	Or are they cheating at elections?
	Now, besides the fact that That of course they will be probably also be cheating.
	There is actually a continuous brainwashing of the younger generations through TV, through internet, through the university, through their schools, that we need to take into consideration.
	So, I mean, it's pointless to just think that you can only blame it on some trickery made by maybe the voting system.
	We have to also understand that there is young people who legitimately think in their own brains that this is the way to go.
	That the mentality of people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or other people like that is the right way to go.
	I mean, the hate I see against Israel in the universities and the way they even locked up some kids, had to lock themselves up to not get beaten.
	I mean, inside this universe... I mean, this is insane!
	I mean, this is like... These are savages!
	So, either we denounce their professors, denounce their teaching system, denounce their system, which is way too political, or either we simply have... Those activists, the way I see it, those professors and stuff are the activists.
	They're not teachers.
	I mean, when you're looking at the...
	Young people that are teaching kindergarten kids, junior kids, getting this crazy sex-related agenda into the schools.
	Those people aren't teachers.
	They are activists.
	And while that's happening, Chinese men have been taking some kind of a... I don't know if it's a testosterone.
	I saw a documentary on it the other day, which is very interesting.
	And they, on average, in the last, I think, two decades, Have grown on average two inches.
	So while the West has been disempowered, right, with this crap that we're doing and getting ourselves all caught up with sexuality and all of that, the Chinese are brilliant.
	You see how they teach their kids.
	You see how little three, four, two-year-old Chinese kids are brilliant.
	They taught Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant teaching skills.
	And the Chinese men are growing in physical stature as well.
	They're taking more testosterone, so they're growing bigger.
	That's something I actually watched the other day, which was super, super interesting.
	So that's how they are literally disempowering the West.
	Well, actually, I heard that the Chinese men are transplanting African penises, illegally transported and frozen from Africa into China.
	So, I mean, that is something that you should maybe look into.
	But that's what's happening.
	I leave that to you, Leo.
	But this is the news that came out in the middle of the pandemic.
	They actually got a shipment from Africa that was going into China.
	So it's not just a theory.
	It's everything.
	I mean, it's disgusting.
	I mean, the amount of animal trafficking that goes on to try and think that the Eastern or that Asian countries can get a bigger penis in terms is astronomical.
	It's why our rhino population has been completely whittled out, because I think by drinking rhino horn, they're going to get a large penis.
	So the natural medicine in China has been a problem for wild animals around the world.
	They seem to always need the most obscure and bizarre ones for their mixing and stuff.
	Aside from that, we can say that if the manifestation of the Antichrist is imminent, it will happen because The basis of it, of course, is the propaganda that will push this figure to become relatively important, but the moment in which he will actually maybe bring the peace to the Middle East.
	That's why I think that now more than ever we need to put the spotlight on people like Obama, like Prince William, like King Charles, because these figures might manifest something in the Middle East.
	And if they do, then we have a hint more that they are the one.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Because there is a very ambiguous, for example, King Charles is very ambiguous towards this confrontation.
	At the same time, you know, he has friends in the Muslim world, but he also has friends in the Jewish world.
	He wants to...
	These people are, of course, there to, in some way, bring us to the next stage.
	And the next stage will inevitably bring to a larger confrontation, which might be triggered also by Taiwan.
	Of course, China might also invade Taiwan.
	There is a lot of talk these days about also what is happening really in Ukraine, if Ukraine We'll continue being able to carry on this war.
	But I think that the actual way that the system is built is to encourage more and more wars, because more and more wars will, first of all, take our attention away from real problems.
	The fact that we're spending so much money at the pump, the fact that we have a growing inflation,
	And the fact that we have less and less money in the bank and often we are living week to week from check to check and no longer capable of doing the things that our fathers, grandfathers used to do, which was to buy property, create a sense of stability also for the future generations of the family.
	This will no longer be possible.
	I mean, here we are living still in the year 2023 with also the millennials who, in a way, are taking advantage of the situation that we have created for them.
	But then they are totally unprepared for what is coming next.
	I mean, in front of a plotter like the one we saw at the music festival, the rave in Israel, what did they do?
	They simply escaped.
	You know, those people couldn't do anything because they were not trained.
	And even the ones who actually, there were some soldiers, former soldiers who were amongst the ravers, they didn't have any weapons to react.
	Because their mentality was pacifism, pacifism.
	People are peaceful.
	If they were realistic instead, They would all have had a machine gun in their car and say, OK, we are peaceful.
	We dance.
	We enjoy the music.
	But if they come and screw us up, we are ready and we're going to kill them.
	This is the mentality of the millennial.
	Oh, our problem is the electric car.
	Our problem is the sexuality.
	This, that, the pacifism.
	We need to build pacifism.
	Of what?
	I mean, It's like the strategy is to create people like the ones that were slaughtered in that festival.
	They were basically sacrificial victims of this whole event, if you think about it.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And they were set up to become also sacrificial victims of this whole event.
	OK, explain that to me, please.
	When you said they were setting up to become sacrificial victims of this event, elaborate on that, please.
	Well, because, first of all, this festival was not even supposed to happen in that place.
	The location was changed at the last minute.
	There is some inconsistencies also with the way it was organised.
	that are a little bit weird, but in any case you are organizing an event right next to one place which is explosive because regardless of what Netanyahu says or other people say, they all knew that this tension was building and was building also because of the provocation that some of their people were doing on Temple Mount.
	That's why I bring back the attention to the Temple Mount and to the eventual rebuilding of the First Temple, because the tension seems to be coming from there, not from Gaza originally.
	And then Gaza, of course, then manifested this tension.
	But it's very easy for a bunch of kids that are there, armed, like we said at the beginning of the show, to foment them in doing this action, give them some money and tell them, go and do this stuff.
	I mean, and on top of that, they were all drugged up.
	They were all drugged.
	It came out that these terrorists that were sent to Israel killing people, they were all drugged up.
	So that also kind of changes your perception of reality.
	I mean, if you are given immense quantities of amphetamine, cocaine and other drugs, but also there is some other drugs that are even worse that were used by ISIS, chemical stuff that really makes you have this aggressive and also at the same time it detaches you from the From the reality of what you're doing.
	I mean, if you're cutting the throat of a child and you're doing it... I mean, you're doing it because something in your brain is not working any longer.
	Exactly.
	Something is not... That's exactly it.
	I was actually going to ask you about that because, you know, when we hear stories... I mean, I also know just about the South African military.
	It's well known the guys were... And also, you know, when you go back to the... Especially Vietnam, I think.
	American wars and stuff like that.
	It was well known that there were certain drugs tested on the soldiers to see how aggressive it would make them or what.
	And you know, just as I'm saying this now, it's interesting because it seems like then already they were starting to test these substances on the soldiers.
	You know, like back in the 60s and stuff already.
	And now they've obviously evolved and advanced it quite a bit, you know, as we've gone along.
	But it's crazy, because what type of drugs?
	I mean, I know they would be using drugs, right?
	I'm pretty sure about that.
	But then that gives me this whole question in my mind, because we've heard so much about this adrenochrome stuff.
	And we hear a lot about the military guys that are actually given adrenochrome.
	when they are in these full fighting combat war zones.
	So I'd be interested to know what your take is on that, if they are actually given a deal.
	Apparently, the mix they use is called Captagon.
	Now, Captagon is a mix of amphetamines, caffeine and various fillers.
	Which are sometimes, I mean, it's of course like, you know, I mean, also we have all the fentanyl, you know, that it's connected to this stuff.
	But definitely it's like they are used, I mean, the drug that apparently the Hamas terrorists used to slaughter Israelis is called Captagon.
	And there was already a report, I remember, on the Jerusalem Post back in 2019 about it, I think.
	But this is the drug that basically they're using.
	And it's a synthetic amphetamine.
	And it gives you a lot of aggressive.
	And it's trafficked mostly through Turkey and also The Arabian Peninsula.
	So it's like these pills are a stimulant, which are known also as the cocaine of the poor.
	Because, of course, you can't give cocaine to thousands of soldiers or terrorists.
	It will cost you, I don't know, I mean, probably it's not economically suitable.
	So they came up with this drug, the cocaine of the poor.
	Now, like I said, it was used by ISIS, and so we know what ISIS did.
	ISIS already, I think, went a notch up in the way they behaved compared to even Al-Qaeda.
	I mean, if, you know, with the... I mean, of course, Al-Qaeda did some terrible things, but it seems like this is even worse.
	And it was in 2015, I remember, they started to use this drug, ISIS fighters, and it kind of like, it came up, I remember, in some articles that were circulating, and it suppresses the fear.
	So it basically erases every sense of fear from these people.
	I personally think from my own experience is that this can be also an opening for the demons that possess people, literally.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	I definitely agree with that, that when they take hard drugs like that, they become a portal, they open themselves up.
	I mean, even the Jerusalem Post said that the Gaptagon is, that Gaza is a popular market for this drug and that most young people are addicted to it.
	So we have a big problem here because we have young populations in Gaza that is easily manipulated for whatever task they want to give them.
	And they are completely, so they're not only brainwashed But they're also drugged.
	So in the past, with Al-Fazal, with movements, you know, at the time of Arafat and stuff, we had the movements that were, I mean, they were ideological, but they were not cut the throat of a little child or a baby, because they were still human in their ideology.
	This brings them one notch further into I talked about this kind of influence in Volume 6.66 when I talk about how the demons can enter into a human with this kind of drugs.
	Yes, absolutely.
	You need to exorcise them.
	So what are you going to do?
	Are you going to enter Gaza and exorcise them?
	Or take away these drugs?
	They need to stop the arrival of these drugs into Gaza.
	A lot of tunnels that go into Egypt have not been even discovered yet, so probably there is still circulation of stuff that goes into Gaza from these tunnels.
	Even if Israel claimed in the past they closed several that went into Egypt, there is probably the possibility that this drug still arrives.
	So, no food.
	Drugs.
	I mean, when you give a person drugs rather than food, I don't know.
	I mean, how do you think they're going to turn out?
	I mean, they're going to be hateful.
	They're going to be desperate.
	They're going to do anything.
	I think, you know, already in those situations where I think war for many of those areas is the order of the day, scathing.
	So I think kids growing up are conditioned so differently.
	They live in a danger zone constantly.
	So they constantly, I think growing up, especially young boys on the streets where there's constantly fighting or whatever, their adrenaline Immediately is something that they just use all the time.
	They've got constant adrenaline rush, right?
	And then I think when you couple that with hatred, because of course, now you hate your brothers across the border and everyone else around you.
	So you couple that poverty, that violence, along with hatred, And a desire now to get the people that hurt your family.
	And I'm talking on all sides.
	I'm not just talking on one side now, right?
	And then of course you pump that up with drugs.
	And you get, because it's exactly that.
	I mean, you know, I know this from violent crimes that are committed in South Africa.
	It's a well-known fact that, let's say, the group of guys will get together, they will take some form of a drug, they dance and jump and sing and carry on, get themselves completely pumped up, and then they go and do the deed.
	So already, just in that ritual of taking that and dancing and pumping yourself up, You're connecting yourself to something that is not good, right?
	You are living in Africa, it's known for their animist religion.
	And in animism there is that, you know, especially in certain branches of voodoo and stuff of getting possessed by the entity during the ritual after maybe assuming some illegal substances, some alcohol and stuff.
	Now, in particular, when it comes to this drug, apparently it's become a major source of income for Syria because I mean, we need to confirm it, but it seems like at least the Israeli intelligence was very adamant it was true, that it was connected to Syria and to Assad's brother, who apparently is making a lot of money with it.
	And at times these countries, like even North Korea, make a lot of money producing drugs when they don't have anything else to produce money.
	They don't have any.
	Let's see, for example, what's happening here with Mexico that is flooding this country with fentanyl.
	It's all happening because China, of course, is taking advantage of the situation.
	But then Mexican cartels have been bringing it in this country.
	Now, Mexican cartels, actually, the Sinaloa in particular, has realized the negative implications of it.
	And finally, they have decided to cut the throat and hang up every fentanyl importer from Mexico into America.
	And that is the only way you can, you can, you want to sort out these things, you have to hang people up from the fifth.
	And actually, I know that this might seem outrageous for, you know, for the mentality of the West, but it's actually working.
	In the last three months, fentanyl import is de-escalating because the Sinaloa cartel hang things saying, if you deal with fentanyl, we're going to hang you.
	We're going to kill you.
	We're going to murder you.
	And they don't joke.
	They actually hang 10 people at the time there.
	So I know, you know, what are you going to do with the, with the dealers of this kind of drugs?
	You're going to say, Oh, please accommodate yourself.
	Let's talk civilly.
	There is no civility.
	It's no, there's no possibility of talking in a civil manner with these, with these monsters.
	Now it's Bourla.
	also apparently is using this and Hezbollah is the one that might enter the fight if Israel enters into Gaza.
	The fact though, I mean, you were talking about apparently the reliable estimates suggest that Captagon's exports from Syria reached a minimum of 3.5 billion in 2020.
	We're talking about billions of dollars.
	So it's also a money-making machine.
	Wow.
	In Saudi Arabia, the consumption of Captagon surpasses 600 million pills already annually.
	It generates a market of about $9 billion to $12 billion every year.
	But who's taking that then, if that's like an aggressive call?
	Because I can understand if they're taking ecstasy To take at clubs or stuff like that, right?
	But from what you're telling me, this Capagon is a very, you know, it brings out the aggression.
	So who would be taking that then?
	It brings out the aggression, but it also depends on the quantities you can use to also take away your fatigue if you are, you know, working very hard jobs.
	Now, we know that, for example, in places like Dubai, you know, you have very rich people, but then you have people who are working very hard jobs on the limit of starvation, being paid very little, that are just brought in from Africa.
	And for example, the Dubai authorities intercepted 1.5 tons of Captagon pills worth approximately 380 million, which were concealed in a cargo of lemons.
	Lemons?
	Yes.
	Last year alone, more than 250 million Captagon pills were thwarted from being smuggled.
	So, I mean, we're talking about a lot of fields that are flooding the Middle East.
	And this, of course, goes back to what I've been writing in volume eight, as you know, my confessions regarding how drugs have been used to manipulate and push people to do certain action and to transform the social structure of society around us or to destroy that social structure.
	The traditional family is no longer traditional if the son is completely out on drugs.
	Yes.
	I mean, I know that we can't have compassion on Joe Biden because he's the chief idiot of all idiots.
	But when we see the problems he had with his son, sometimes I feel sorry for him because the guy is a complete, not only a loser, but it's dangerous for himself and for his family.
	Yeah, he even left a bag of coke there and it became a big thing that went on the news.
	I mean, Hunter is not only on coke, he's on many other drugs.
	So it's sad, but that's the reality of today.
	There is a lot of people that have given up on their own life and they have chosen drugs.
	But this has happened, as you know, for decades.
	And if the drugs of choice used to be for doing that kind of leap into the unknown, maybe in the 70s, heroin, which brought the people to be much more, you know.
	Nowadays, instead, the system wants them to be, you know, ready, you know.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It's very, very interesting that, isn't it interesting?
	I mean, I would be talking about this.
	The Antichrist, the rise of the Antichrist is connected to all this because the rise of the Antichrist is basically the unveiling of World War Three.
	It can be possible only if you have all these people have completely lost their minds and are possessed.
	And that's what the Antichrist is fomenting before he suddenly appears as the peacemaker and says, oh, you're all OK, don't worry.
	Well, you have a problem with drugs?
	Don't worry, we have the cure.
	Here's the antidote.
	You know, there's always an offer of something around the corner.
	We create the problem, we'll give you the cure.
	Yes.
	And of course, it's a little bit like today they said, you know, I was reading an article about now this new invention, this new invention basically that will make the the air of Mars breathable it's like a painting that you can use and it will make basically the air of Mars breathable.
	Well if you say that this can produce oxygen why are you not using it on the planet Earth?
	And you go into places where we have problems with... Why don't you use it here?
	I mean, you want to make the air pure on Mars.
	Why don't you make it in the meantime here if you have the... They don't want to do it.
	So this demonstrates, you know, they want to use one thing.
	You know, they will say maybe on Mars we have the cure for cancer.
	Oh, we don't have it on Earth.
	Or, you know, on Mars we have the cure for this and that.
	We don't have it on Earth.
	So it's, of course, about manipulating people And it's very sad that these drugs can be used for manipulating so many young people, lead them astray.
	And so, you know, while, for example, here in the West, they are basically pushing the woke ideology and the drugs that will literally castrate your future.
	For example, I grew up in the 90s and from the end of the 80s onwards there was, of course, the rape culture.
	The rape culture was born, of course, also on the use of certain drugs.
	One particular drug that was used was not so much LSD because that was more of a 70s drug, but it was ecstasy.
	And people Thought of ecstasy as a drug they could use socially no problem because you know you can have a blast and then on Monday you can go back to work.
	Okay they didn't calculate though the fact that when you use ecstasy constantly then you will basically become maybe an homosexual.
	You will maybe change your sexual identity I have seen that, Leo.
	I have seen how people on ecstasy suddenly do things very out of character.
	I've seen straight men suddenly have gay experiences.
	I've seen couples suddenly become swingers.
	I've seen all sorts of things, like people cheating on their spouses.
	It was that sense of responsibility, you're conscious.
	Yes, any of those types of drugs because you lose your inhibitions.
	- What is the word DMT?
	I mean, the same can be said with DMT, it changes your- - Yes, any of those types of drugs because you lose your inhibitions.
	And when you lose your inhibitions, you then kind of fulfill what often people have as a secret fantasy.
	So your hidden fantasies and desires come out.
	And what happens then is like, as you say, people will take an ecstasy or two and party Friday night and go through the whole of Saturday.
	Come Monday or Tuesday, boom, they start getting their downer.
	And then the truth of their actions starts filtering back in.
	And then something happens, right?
	Because everything is driven by emotion.
	Guilt sets in.
	People start feeling guilty, and the more guilty they feel about their actions, the more they continue to do things to try and get away from the guilt, and numb the guilt, and get away from it.
	And that's what causes these, especially with extremes, I've seen it over the years.
	And then you'll go again Friday night, have a party, And you forget about all those crap things, and you just go back into that other place that you were a week or two ago.
	I've watched that for a long time.
	That I will absolutely... And I see how it's the guilt emotions that erode.
	I just want to ask you, do you have a speaker or something that's scratching against something?
	Leo?
	Do you have a speaker or something that might be scratching against something?
	Like an earpiece?
	The speaker, something sounds like it's scratching.
	If I can sort it out, do you hear me better now?
	Yeah, that just happens occasionally when you talk.
	See if it's better now, because I changed the microphone.
	It might be better now.
	Sounds better now.
	OK, perfect, perfect.
	Sorry, the microphone was not on.
	I probably had another microphone on.
	We have two, three microphones here and depends on which one is clicked.
	So I guess that now you will probably not hear that any longer.
	Was it during the whole show?
	Yeah, it just came occasionally.
	It sounds like, you know, when you have an earphone that's rubbing against your lapel.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I hope that now it's fine with this other microphone.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, no, it is.
	But it's, you know, I just see over time how they've been used drugs in the military, testing on soldiers and things.
	And over the years, how they've been introduced those same drugs, LSD, ecstasy, those types of drugs that it's well known that they were there, that they were created in laboratories in America, and then filtered in to give to the general public to literally because also speaking to a guy who's a Satanist in South Africa and he long story short, but he was the head of the drug
	Cartel in South Africa at the end of the day if you want and he would tell you how they would literally do rituals and curses on the drugs before they send them out to be Dispersed on your Friday night and people and you know, I mean, I know a lot of people I mean, they're not drug addicts, but hey, I'm going to party on Friday night.
	I'm gonna get myself a gram of cocaine or taking To MDMA.
	We're going to a party in the bush this weekend.
	But without realizing that there's entities and energies that's already been cursed and placed on those drugs.
	And they will do it deliberately with certain people.
	They do it to erode families.
	They do it to get what they want.
	And if they don't get it, then, of course, they go to the more extreme ways.
	But drugs is a huge way, and you know, it seems so far removed from war and combat, but it's so not.
	This is a different type of war they've declared on humanity.
	I think it goes along with it, because the fact that, you know, they have actually proved that those terrorists on the 7th of October were using these drugs, It just confirms that this goes along with these acts that are barbaric and that change of times the course of history.
	Now, in the old days, the Ashashins were the sect from the actual Ismailis, there was this sect known as the Ashashin, and the head leader was the man of the mountain.
	And they were called Ashashin because they were actually using Ashish also, Ashish, and smoking Ashish.
	There were promises during their initiations, there would be promises of paradise.
	And the same was actually this technique to program the terrorist by showing him, you know, making him smoke ash, making him see wonderful ladies.
	It was something that actually was used on the 9-11 terrorists.
	There is evidence of it.
	They were watching porn, smoking ash before.
	And this was like the promises of an afterlife.
	But now this doesn't seem to be enough.
	And so now you have this kind of drugs that are definitely not like ashish, not something that chills you out, but rather the opposite.
	brings you to...
	I don't think that the chilling episodes that happened on 9-11, of course there was also the fact that they let it happen, but apart from that the people involved, the terrorists involved, if they had been on this kind the terrorists involved, if they had been on this kind of drugs I doubt that they could have had the same kind of self-control to operate those airplanes, do what they did You know, this is different.
	This is like really, you know, you could see it really from the images of those desperados that broke the gates, broke the fence there separating Gaza with Israel and came in like hordes of zombies into Israel.
	So that is unfortunately.
	And on the other side, there were instead those pacifists who were at the rave, maybe taking ecstasy and drugs that were all peace and chilling out with a smile in their face.
	So two drugs, completely different.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Wow.
	Yes.
	I think as human beings we've underestimated ourselves and we really need to get back to that place of realizing who we are because as long as we continue on this path of, and I don't, you know, and I'm sorry, whether it's illegal drugs or whether it's drugs from big pharma, it's the same thing to me.
	It's the same thing, depending on what you're taking your drug for.
	I'm not talking about maybe the odd headache pill or if you need a dose of antibiotics.
	I'm talking about when people are on constant antidepressants.
	And I know, guys, I'm never popular for that and I'm not judging.
	I'm just saying that doesn't resolve the problem at all.
	It simply suppresses what is and creates more of.
	So you're not dealing with an issue.
	They're teaching us how to suppress our emotions, how to suppress our pain, how to suppress our feelings, and that's exactly what they want us to do because that's how they keep us numbed up.
	Look at someone that you know that has been on, let's say, antidepressants for five or ten years.
	That person will often walk around with just like a, you know, and that's their way of coping and that's fine.
	But when we start looking at what's beneath that and how we can really actually, just to make it clear, I mean, when you're starting to take that stuff, you're also kind of, you're challenging your own being and the chakras you're challenging your own being and the chakras that you have and you're basically obscuring those channels which you have with God or with the energy of life.
	You are basically putting a tap on them.
	It's terrible what they did.
	You see, when they wanted to persecute me, They tried to lock me up.
	They tried to push drugs inside my system.
	It took months to then take them out of my system.
	I, of course, refused to take anything.
	I went through some very heavy legal battles and I had to, you know, also challenge the system because they were using these drugs to basically silence me and make me a zombie.
	And I refused it because, I mean, my father is a psychiatrist.
	I knew better than them what this whole thing was about.
	I knew exactly what they wanted to do.
	And I remember when suddenly a guy from the Tavistock Institute, and actually I talked about it in Volume 8 of my confessions, showed up in front of me, in front of my lawyer, said, I work for the Tavistock Institute.
	And I was like, these guys, they don't even hide it.
	You know?
	Wow.
	And they only needed to have the possibility of, at the time, they were kind of like working around the idea that they needed to deactivate Leo Zagani, because Leo Zagani already had come out with books that were highly successful in Japan, in Italy, not yet in in the English-speaking world, but they wanted to silence me before I made that next step.
	That transition, absolutely.
	And they didn't manage because at that point I simply, through my connections, I managed to challenge them and then I took a plane, I came to America in 2014, signed a book contract here in America and then of course in 2019 when I saw that they wanted to lock me up again,
	Or kill me, then at that point I immediately programmed the great operation of fleeing Italy with my family and never seeing that country again, which is what I did.
	But it's something that I had to do to avoid being subject to their BS.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And the links they go to to try and control and manipulate are absolutely disgusting.
	And their favorite thing, as you say, is to put people in a mental institute, drug them up and say they've got some psychological issue.
	They try to commit suicide or, you know, they're a danger unto themselves and to their families, you know.
	It's insane.
	They're not even hiding these things.
	I work for the Telestock Institute.
	He's not even hiding it.
	These guys, they're really showing us in plain sight.
	And you know, as I always maintain, it's our job to learn to speak their language, or to read their language, because they're telling us all the time, they're showing us in plain sight, but we're just walking around like with veils and layers over our eyeballs, living in this little bubble, thinking that this is your perfect world.
	No, but that's why, you know, that's why it was so important for me To explain in Volume 8 how the entertainment world, both music and cinema, have been used for that purpose.
	Because it was actually in the entertainment world that these drugs were pioneered.
	And they were then unleashed to the general population through maybe big events.
	And I talk in my book about how the CIA, for example, was behind the Woodstock event.
	They tell, oh, Woodstock, what a great event, liberty, love, happiness, whatever.
	It was just organized so they could have a massive experiment with people on LSD and check out what would happen.
	The same happened even later when they had other editions of Woodstock which went not so well because the drugs they planted inside those festivals was even worse.
	So at that point, you know, in the 90s when they tried to bring back Woodstock, they were already on drugs that were going to the next level.
	So that is what we've been trying to do.
	And then, of course, you have the Hollywood actors, the film directors that now all think it's very cool to use Ayahuasca because we can, you know, open the portals.
	So on one side, they push certain drugs so they can open to the entities and become the filters of this demonic reality.
	On the other, Their subjects, their followers, their listeners, viewers and all the rest, they are instead pumped up with all these other drugs that make them a bunch of idiots and that's it.
	I'm so happy you brought up Awashka.
	I really, really am.
	And I just want to say something about that, you know.
	Yes, and I want to say I do believe Awashka is a sacred plant, right?
	Well, of course.
	And I do believe, as with anything, if it's done... But it's sacred to the place that plant is born.
	Yes, that's what I'm saying.
	And it's for the people that have grown up with the plant.
	You know, those guys that grew up with this stuff and are really authentic with it, There are few, I can probably count them on my one, maybe both hands, in the world that would truly be ordained by God to actually work with that plant, right?
	But what happens with ayahuasca, and I want to say this very clearly, I've seen this happen a lot, people go on these ayahuasca ceremonies and they have this amazing You know, first they've got to, if you're doing a proper one, a retreat, you're going to drink tobacco juice, which first for two days you puke your lungs out because that cleanses your system.
	And then for maybe however long the retreat is, the shaman there will then give you ayahuasca.
	Now, People get addicted like anything else.
	And let's never forget, Ayahuasca is a live plant.
	It's the vine plant.
	It never stops growing.
	And it never stops growing.
	Right?
	So if you did an Ayahuasca ceremony once, that's all you've ever needed.
	And it's done in truth.
	Okay?
	But what happens now is they're going every month or every two months This plant makes you crazy, people.
	It makes you crazy if you do too much of it.
	I will tell you that now.
	I've seen it happen time and time again.
	I've seen a friend of mine being kicked out by her husband when she was eight months pregnant, on a freezing cold night.
	He was this big ayahuasca man, right?
	sitting with all the shamans and a big shaman dude kicking his wife out when she's eight months pregnant in the freezing cold and just could never understand that he had done something because his mind had so – something wrong, rather – his mind was so twisted and all the other rather – his mind was so twisted and all the other guys in this shamanic circle with him were in full So I'm saying that's just one incident.
	I'm not going to bore you with many, but there are many like that.
	I think it's very interesting to listen to this testimony and people understand that because when you think how it works nowadays, you know, you have a guy like Joe Rogan saying, oh, it's very cool, you know, or, and that is really wrong, I think.
	I agree that it's wrong.
	I would never recommend that people do stuff like that unless you have truly been called by God to do it.
	And I'm not saying there aren't people, right?
	And I'm not saying there are.
	I don't know.
	But I believe that everything on earth is for us as humans and how we use it It needs to be respectful.
	So I can't say people shouldn't use it.
	Maybe that's exactly the thing that someone needs in that moment to help them.
	Remember one thing, the use, the initiatic use of a drug is definitely different from the social use of a drug and they never need to be mixed up, these two things.
	And so there has to be an understanding, a profound understanding of the differences here, of social use, which is superficial, and instead, initiatic use, which is done in consideration of a tradition.
	You have the keys to open those doors.
	of your conscious because you have been prepared.
	I remember when I did mushrooms with a shaman in Norway once, a Sámi shaman, and it was a great experience, but I will never do it now and see what happened, for example, to that pilot who suddenly wanted the for example, to that pilot who suddenly wanted the airplane to go down because he thought he was dreaming and he was instead of mushrooms tripping out from the day before.
	And he was trying to kill a bunch of people on an airplane by switching off in the pilot cabin, the main...
	The engines of the plane.
	So, I mean, this is insane.
	And it's obviously much more dangerous than we think, playing with especially substance, certain substances.
	I myself, for example, don't mind the smoke and joint of marijuana or ash.
	It's not a problem here.
	It's legal.
	We don't have any problem.
	The stuff is also very good.
	But it's actually natural stuff.
	And it is, of course, needs to be used in a responsible way, just like you use in a responsible way a glass of wine.
	Because, I mean, you can have a glass of wine at lunch or dinner, or you can become an alcoholic.
	It's two different things here.
	And you wake up in the morning with a bottle, drinking a vodka and stuff.
	I mean, terrible stuff, which I did witness even in In people, and it's sad.
	I mean, it's completely sad.
	So, it's important to understand that the Antichrist needs this, and that's actually people like Yuval Noah Harari, which I, of course, discuss in this book, and I discuss also in Volume 7.
	He himself admitted that at this moment of civilization, we give them video games, we give them drugs, and we keep them happy by doing that.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You know, you own nothing and you're happy.
	Yeah, you own nothing and you're drugged up and own nothing thinking that maybe, I don't know what.
	In your little 15 minute city that you can't move anymore.
	You're going to be so happy.
	You're going to be so happy.
	Because they're drugged up.
	But I like at least the honesty of you and Noel Harari who has admitted that.
	Because to admit that means that, you know, okay, we give them video games and drugs.
	Fine.
	Okay.
	If you're happy with that, don't worry.
	But don't tune in on Aquarius Rising Africa and watch Leo Zagami and Chantel because It's no point.
	It's not.
	Yeah, it's not.
	They're conspiracy theorists.
	It's not happening.
	They're just lying.
	They're trying to scare us.
	They're just fearmongers.
	They're spreading propaganda.
	Well, I mean, the truth is that definitely if you fall into the trap of today and you just give in to what the system is proposing, then, of course,
	You can live your life, but then at one point or the other, either you will be on drugs, either you will be on alcohol, or either you will be on prescription drugs, like you said earlier, because also the prescription drugs is the other big problem that big pharma pushes upon us, so we can all... I mean, I was just saying on one of my other shows, I can't remember whose show it was, you go to an AA meeting or an NA meeting, and I have, and I've sat in with some friends or whatever, observing,
	And every 20 minutes, they're stopping for a smoke break.
	And all they do is discuss this extreme medication that they've now moved on to.
	So now they're off cocaine or heroin or whatever it is they were incarcerated for in the whatever.
	But now they're healing with, I mean, I don't even know the name of it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Drugs and smoking.
	I mean, smoking.
	One of the drugs they use to is the leveler they use to is lithium and yeah that is the leveler and they were actually trying to force that on me when they arrested me the last time I did the pitchforks revolution in Italy and I drove this insurrection they wanted to ruin me by using that because with that they could have completely created a zombie out of me and my wife was like shocked she said
	I mean, these people are insane what they want to use.
	And unfortunately, because they gave me some when I was locked up for two weeks, I had so many side effects for the years after that.
	I mean, it's insane.
	So I can't imagine people that use this stuff regularly.
	It's crazy, and that's what I say.
	And you go to an alcoholics or whatever meeting, and the first thing you do is say, Hello, my name is Chantal, and I'm an addict.
	Right?
	So, self-fulfilling prophecy, that's now what you, and you've got to keep for the rest of your life, tell people and admit, I'm an addict, I'm an addict.
	What a stupid thing to do.
	You're not an addict.
	Get out of that mindset.
	That's keeping you in that stupid entrapped matrix mindset that they want you to be kept in.
	So don't do it.
	You're not an addict.
	An addiction can be broken within 24 hours.
	It can.
	Absolutely.
	It can be broken, I think, in five minutes.
	I mean, it just depends from your will.
	The power of the will is everything, you know?
	Exactly.
	Of course, the magicians know very well that the power of the will is everything.
	I remember one guy who actually, Alistair Crowley, we often mention, he died of a drug overdose and he was an heroin addict when he died.
	So, you know, he was preaching all these great things... On heroin!
	He's like shooting himself up!
	While he was shooting himself up, and then his followers, to hide the whole thing, when they found there was actually a needle under his bed as his death, they hid the whole thing.
	So nobody outside of the Order could know that this guy died of heroin overdose.
	Wow!
	Crazy!
	It just shows you, right?
	Today, it's like all the stuff.
	And the drugs are so deceiving because anyone who's taken, I mean, I'll never forget reading an article in the Sunday newspaper many years ago, and it was written by a drug, an ex-drug addict.
	He said, and he spoke about crack cocaine.
	He said, the first hit is a thousand too many, and a thousand hits is never enough.
	That stuck with me.
	Forever.
	Like your first hit is a thousand too many, and a thousand hits is never enough.
	So that's the typical story of an addict.
	And when you start getting hooked on these drugs.
	So they've... I think, you know, today we title this the Age of the Antichrist, the unveiling of the world for free, and the Age of the Antichrist can be characterized by the massive intake of drugs.
	And it's very unfortunate, but it's part of this whole system, which is bringing us towards the Antichrist.
	And also another very, as you say, music.
	Now you want to go to these clubs.
	Now, a couple of years ago, I was researching drug clubs as well.
	I would go there.
	And I mean, my gift is I see the energy, right?
	I see people's energy.
	I would watch how the music And it's these DJs that play these really hard beats, whatever, where I was.
	And the music, the energy of the music, links to the people who've taken the drugs.
	Absolutely.
	The actual beats per minute, in the sounds they use.
	Yeah, it's all part of this.
	And that is also something that I unveiled in Volume 8, because it's part of also the frequency.
	Frequencies that are used, of course, that push people, of course, to enjoy it and consume themselves, you know.
	Exactly.
	And the more you do it, the more you want, and then you become more free.
	And suddenly, as I said, they become swingers.
	And I see people... But I mean, they become free in their own eyes.
	In reality, they're becoming more and more prisoners.
	Exactly.
	They're becoming more and more trapped.
	Yes.
	So thank you so much for bringing this topic up today.
	And I think that we did a great service in explaining What the relevance of the drugs in the age of the Antichrist as well as them in the unveiling of World War Three with the Capitagon and everything we discussed also regarding the intake of these drugs by the terrorists and and hopefully of course these wars will finish
	But unfortunately, it seems they will not finish because remember one thing, the major, I mean, the people who make most money from this war are the military industrial complex and the big pharma.
	Because when you are in a war and you get basically hurt, you get injured, who is going to take care of you?
	At that point, it becomes a pharmacological issue.
	At times, you will have to live for years with the traumas of combat.
	And this is another big problem here in the United States.
	For example, in the last couple of days, we have a guy who is going around shooting people in Maine, who is an ex-former military, who has been taking a lot of drugs, who basically was sent away from one of these centers where who basically was sent away from one of these centers where they try to take care of you if you are a vet with some problems But then they dismiss him by just giving him some pills.
	And now this guy is on the loose shooting people and killing people.
	that's insane you know and we're looking and I mean Speaking about that, I've recently started speaking to Caleb Jade, who is one of these high-level ex-military combat guys.
	And I want to tell you guys, he's been taken into the G.A.T.E.
	program from the age of five and abused by the system in the most horrific way.
	If there's anyone who understands, and especially on this channel, you guys know we support the veterans on this channel.
	So, you know, it's amazing when you speak into the veterans and you understand the level of PTSD they battle.
	You know, you're looking at those little video clips of like, let's say, guys from World War One, where they literally, all they do is shake.
	I mean, this is literally what these guys, and they are forgotten.
	These are the guys that have been fighting for our countries, that have gone through the most obscene Experiences and they are literally forgotten.
	I cannot even begin to concede that in my heart.
	I can't because and also look at South Africa, you know, in our bush wars, all these young guys going off to fight these terrorists that were really not really terror.
	I mean, when my brother was fighting in the bush wars two years before that already, Namibia was gaining its independence.
	And that's supposedly what we were fighting for, right?
	I mean, they'd signed those papers two years before that, and the guys were still getting there, losing their lives, seeing horrific things.
	They don't care.
	And the only reason, by the way, why the South African bush wars ended, that was 1989-1990.
	Let's think about what happened then.
	Right?
	That was the same time the Berlin Wall came down.
	So the same people who were funding the African Bush Wars no longer had money for the African Bush Wars and to take down the Berlin Wall.
	Of course, these were proxy wars between the Soviet Union and America, the moment the Soviet Union ended.
	It's a little bit like today, you know.
	If, for example, suddenly Iran ceases to exist, then Hamas or Hezbollah will no longer have their finances and they could no longer engage in what they would be engaging or already engaging.
	And the same can be said also for the war in Ukraine.
	If NATO stops backing Ukraine, the war is finished.
	And that's it.
	You know, it's not like this is a never-ending war because we continue with the mountain of lies that are filling, of course, the propaganda in the newspapers, in the media.
	And then we are going along with the next, you know, now they have elected a new House Speaker here in the America and we are supposed to continue to finance the war in Ukraine.
	And on top of that, we have another war now in Israel.
	and probably we will have soon many other awards so we continue financing and financing and like I continue to say that the main businesses that are are involved in this in the Illuminati structure and the Freemasons are of course gaining a lot of money both from the media industrial complex and the big pharma so these two industries
	are the ones that we will see from the beginning of this operation that is bringing us the great reset that was triggered in 2020 by the pandemic and then it's gonna develop probably further on with many other things happening in the near future.
	Hopefully we will be able to avoid them wherever we are based in the world but the The system is closing in against anybody who rebels from this set of things.
	So if you don't accept the way that, you know, if your son, it's a little bit weird, well, they need to have to analyze and said, oh, this guy, he wants to become a woman or he wants to become this or that.
	We need to fill him with this kind of drugs because he's depressed or this other thing.
	So it's.
	We have given too much power to the military-industrial complex and the big pharma, and they are, of course, the money that is produced by them is the one that is driving this new world disorder, and that is basically producing money for the so-called Illuminati.
	Exactly.
	And the only way we're going to change that is, as you said, like with Big Pharma, let's take back our health.
	You know, we look at the beauty industry.
	I mean, if every woman, and especially women, and I'm seeing more and more men nowadays as well, but if every woman decided today that she loved herself just the way that she is, can you imagine how many industries would go out of business?
	This whole slowing down aging.
	What are you thinking?
	You know, it's crazy.
	We've been so brainwashed to think that as you grow older, you lose your beauty.
	But really, what you gain as an older person, man or woman, is wisdom.
	You're gaining wisdom, you're gaining power within you.
	And it's not a kill you power.
	It's a knowledge.
	It's something that drives you through life.
	And you can't have that if you're obsessed with how many wrinkles you have and how you want to go and slow down your aging process.
	We block ourselves off from God's divine love when we are acting that way.
	And it doesn't mean that you can't wear whatever you can, as long as you're not attached to it.
	You know, when you start injecting yourself with all sorts of things because you've now got too many wrinkles, you're in trouble.
	I'm sorry, you are.
	I mean, I understand if there's a physical, something that's really physically wrong, and absolutely, then for sure.
	But if it's done for just, oh, I'm getting too old, or I must go and take my belly fat out, that's really, go and exercise, go and walk, eat proper food, take back your health, take back your power.
	Your health is your power.
	And this is where they get us, because hospitals, look at the crippling hospitals, right?
	Expenses, medical aids, the way that they just throw pills at our kids.
	For ADD, ADHD, getting them addicted to pills from a very young age, because every time your child who's got ADD takes a pill, that child, that pill is saying there's something wrong with me.
	There's something wrong with me.
	So that's already what you're giving your kids.
	Take back power of your health.
	Take back power of your emotions.
	Take back power of your families, your kids' education.
	That's the way we're going to win this war, not by fighting with guns and what have you.
	Maybe some of the time, yes.
	But fundamentally, we want to take back our power because that's how they control us, is by not having our power.
	Thinking you've got to go to a guy because you've got a headache.
	Your body is designed to heal itself, by the way.
	Start studying your body.
	Start studying this vehicle that is you.
	That's what you need to do.
	Absolutely, absolutely.
	You are what you eat, and as you know, I made this clear in Volume 9 of my confessions, and it's becoming more and more obvious in the last few days.
	Bloomberg and other media are all pushing for the consumption of insects as a sustainable thing, while instead they should be maybe spending less money on wars and more on On good and healthy diets for the people.
	Well, Bill Gates is buying up all the farmland in America.
	Bill Gates... Well, yeah, but I'm sure he's not doing it to produce healthy diets for us.
	He's rather doing it so he can produce his artificial meat, his artificial food products that once again will also come out of the fact that if you remember Last year, we had so many food processing factories suddenly going on flames, you know, out of nowhere.
	And people think that is normal.
	There is, of course, a conspiracy here against our own health, because while the rich get richer, they also are able to eat much better than the normal person that instead here in America, unfortunately, eats genetically modified food.
	And stuff that brings you terrible headaches, terrible illnesses and stuff.
	But that is what they can afford.
	So, you know, if you can't afford anything else, they're almost forcing them into eating that garbage.
	You've got the monopoly on seeds in the world.
	I mean, even in Africa, our indigenous African seeds, you can't buy them anymore, a lot of them, because They've now got the monopoly on them and they're giving us organic seeds are few and far between right now, actually.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, everything.
	They're cutting us out of everything where they can.
	And it's up to us to realize what they're doing.
	And yes, we can.
	Grow your own food.
	Grow your own herbs, your veggies, whatever you can.
	Barter with your neighbors.
	Trade.
	This is the time where we get creative, you know?
	They've certainly not won this war yet.
	There's a lot of us who would prefer for them not to win.
	But that's going to mean we've got to wake up and, you know, stop acting as if we're living in this bubble.
	But I just...
	published an article on leozogami.com it's dedicated to the major meat producer Tyson that is now investing in insect proteins and all this BS and I explained why we are really closer and closer to this to have somehow some connection with this insect consumption because either we gonna eat them directly
	Or either they're going to use them as fertilizer or stuff or foods for our own, for basically the animals that we eat.
	If we eat meat, well, I mean, the livestock industries are going to be affected by this connection with the insect world, which, like I said, it's it's in my book is totally demonic.
	So.
	Totally.
	Which reminds me, in fact, there was a couple here in Cape Town, and I go back maybe three or four years ago, using some kind of insect that had some kind of a milky, whatever, I don't know.
	But they literally, I don't know how they processed those insects, but they were making ice cream from them.
	And they were taking this ice cream on the beach and giving people this ice cream to taste made from this insect.
	Everyone was saying it's delicious, but it's made from this insect because they've got this milky inside whatever, these like grubby things.
	That's just like disgusting.
	So they've already been grooming, oh no, uh-uh.
	Very important.
	Grow your own food, please.
	Just grow your own food.
	Mock your own cow, please.
	Please.
	I always remember that, you know, in the Bible, one of the, you know, as many as five of the ten plagues are directly or indirectly attributed to insects.
	So, I mean, I don't know if you want to have anything to do with that in your life.
	I find that the whole thing inherently demonic and that's why I I decided to write about it and expose this and I think I'm right on target because the more they're gonna promote these wars, the more they're gonna inevitably send this whole system into a super hyperinflation and then depression and then people are not able to afford normal food and then you know they're gonna be forced into eating this garbage.
	Well, like you said, the best thing is to grow up your food and to be independent in the way you produce your own food.
	If that's still possible.
	And the more of us who do it, then we trade with each other.
	You grow that, I grow that.
	Let's trade.
	And somebody says, don't locusts pair well with honey?
	Well, locusts, I mean, it's really demonic.
	I mean, sorry if I say, I mean, if you talk about the locusts, it's one of the most demonic creatures.
	I don't think you can pair it with anything to make it.
	But I mean, if people want to enjoy, remember you are what you eat.
	If you don't want to become an insect, don't start eating insects.
	Don't start eating their food!
	In Thailand, they do that all the time.
	I mean, that's been a thing in Thailand.
	No, but in fact, most Thai people behave like insects.
	It's so nasty.
	And they especially breed them, right?
	And then you get them and you go to these food markets and you see big ones and little ones and...
	No, no, no.
	Okay, let's move on from that.
	We're not going to be eating insects, definitely not.
	Leo, on that note, it's really been so fun having you again tonight.
	We've had you for nearly two hours, so thank you so much for joining me, and I look forward to having you back in a month's time again.
	The last Friday of every month, yeah?
	Guys?
	Absolutely, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	We are here again next month.
	Until then, please check out my latest book or books, which, as you know, today we commented on both seven and eight and also mentioned six.
	We tend to bring up subjects which I have discussed at times because these subjects are of relevance in this new world disorder of ours and I think that people need to understand also the relevance of drugs and today I think they did.
	Maybe more than other times they finally realize that... Drugs, yeah, drugs, drugs, just, you know, legal drugs are as addictive as illegal drugs, except they keep control over you like that.
	But all kinds of drugs, and we said this Captagon, for example, is creating a problem in the Middle East which most people are completely ignoring, what is actually then probably It's like, you know, you need fuel for manifesting this war and to make it really aggressive.
	And this fuel is there and they are using it to manifest these atrocities.
	So thank God today, I think we exposed the whole thing in the unveiling of World War Three and the Age of the Antichrist.
	So thank you very much.
	Thank you very much.
	It's been great.
	Wonderful conversation again.
	Always enjoy having you.
	And guys, thank you so much for joining Leo and myself.
	For me, it's evening.
	You, I know, it's probably sometime in the middle of the day.
	And again, thank you to all our Patreons who support our channel.
	Really appreciate you guys.
	And I'll see you back on Sunday with Caleb Jade.
	So, on that note, God bless you all, thank you so much, and I'll see you soon!

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