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Aug. 27, 2023 - The Leo Zagami Show
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KINGDOM OF KHAZARIA DEBUNKED
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And today, the kingdom of Kizaria, that real kingdom, Australia, a major archery of commerce between Eastern Europe and Southwestern Asia, Khazaria, as some people call it, became one of the foremost trading empires of the early medieval world.
He was very relevant also commanding the western marches of the Silk Road.
And playing a key commercial road or the crossroad between China and the Middle East and the Kievan Rus so some people they place it in in Ukraine around 650 you know the 7th century and the 10th century and one of the largest states of medieval Eurasia and dominated the region of what is now Ukraine and steps of the lands approaching the Euro River you know all that Russia stuff
Donuts and Crimea and whatever, you know and for that purpose Also, because there's a lot of controversy here that the real juice come from there, you know and other mumbo-jumbo based on the 13 tribes 2 by I don't remember the name, but I think it was Costler, Arthur Costler, or somebody like that, and the Asking Us The Jews, and Leo Zagami.
He's going to clarify all this stuff.
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Leo, how are you doing?
Very well, thank you for having me on, and today we're going to be discussing a very interesting topic, as there is a lot of misconceptions around this Kingdom of Khazaria.
We hope to clear them today with our show.
So, welcome everybody.
This is, of course, The Connery River Show, meeting together with Leo Zegami, showing this incredible Sunday here in America.
You are based, at the moment, where?
I'm still in Portugal with the King of England.
He's just right behind me.
I don't know if he's cold meat or he's still there somewhere in the coffin.
But it's like they say in America, the nail in the coffin.
And cut to the chase, cut to the chase.
That's very Californian, you know, that came from California because the chases were too long right down there in Los Angeles.
And then it started going crazy.
So people, they say, cut to the chase.
I want to watch the chase on TV.
Yeah.
So we, we, we asked Leo today, we're going to have 60 minutes and then, uh, He's gonna explain because, Leo, what is all this mumbo-jumbo about the Khazarians being this world conspiracy?
So suddenly they adopt people from UFOs or something from Khazaria and, you know, the Zionists are all from Khazaria and everyone is from fucking Khazaria now.
They're all asking us the Jews, but it's so very happening.
I read that most of the people, they talk some Turkish language, that later on when Well, like I said, it's a very complex subject.
I hope I can clear it, especially because it is unfortunately used for a whole lot of anti-Semitism.
The Kingdom of Caesarea lasted more or less five centuries.
It lasted five centuries.
was basically active between the 7th to the 11th century, more or less.
And then, of course, there is a lot of talk about the Kazanians also as the ancestors of the Ashkenazi Jews.
But all this today, as you will see, is actually disinformation.
There's a lot of disinformation.
And I'm quite surprised that even some Jews have helped within the spread of this disinformation.
Like recently, for example, I was giving an interview with a gentleman called Adam King, who is a Jewish.
practicing Jew and he is basically also spreading the lie of the Kazarian Jews.
So today we need to definitely clear up this matter about this kingdom which embraced to some extent Judaism and was not Jewish.
We lost the connection there for a minute.
I don't know.
He went off.
We're talking about Gazarian not being Judaism.
He touched some button or something.
But we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna come back with... There, there he is.
He's back.
They hit it up with waves, this telephone.
Yes, we just started with it already.
You started, you get excited and then you hit some button that was the wrong button.
To Melonio, to Klaus Schraub.
And Klaus Schraub just got you up with a new European law.
You know we have now a European law that if you say something they don't like, it's going to be erased from the internet forever.
But let's go on with the Kazarians that you were saying, that they were not actually Jewish.
So, the first time we really hear something about the Kazarians was By a guy called Yehuda Alevi, who was of course Jewish.
From Spain, Sephardic.
Yes, and he wrote, described this king who basically invited representatives of the various faith groups, including a Muslim imam, a Christian priest and a rabbi, and eventually he embraced the Jewish religion.
But having said that, for many centuries a lot of people thought this was just a tale or a legend, but it was actually a real thing.
So the Kusari is considered one of the most important works of Jewish apologetics and has been reprinted many times in several languages.
And it offers basically the first insight in why they embrace Judaism in this far distant land, which was a little bit squashed between the rise of the Muslims that they opposed very much.
In fact, one good thing about the Khazarians that can be said is that thanks to them, we have basically Eastern Europe clear of the Muslim faith.
Because the Muslims were advancing and the Khazarians, of course, stopped them.
And this actually, in the end, resulted with the possibility of preserving Christianity.
Because the Khazarian Kingdom really started its decline once the Orthodox religion really established itself.
And of course, at that point, the Khazari kind of like there was a sort of diaspora and eventually they will integrate with other populations but there has always been this fixation regarding the fact that they were actually the ones who were the originators of a large part of the Jewish population.
This is, of course, the fake news that we're still trying to fight after all these years, especially the Kazar hypothesis of the Ashkenazi ancestry.
This was a population that basically was practicing various religions.
the Jews that were pagan, but the Muslims that were coming fast and heavy.
This was a population that basically was practicing various religions.
It was actually practicing shamanism.
Shamanism was one of the main...
Like pagan stuff we say, yeah?
Yes, shamanism.
And then at one point they simply decided, at least because it was a kingdom, so the royal family and all the aristocracy No.
And God with them decided to embrace the Jewish faith.
And this was done, though, without being Jewish.
So what they did was they embraced all the various Jewish laws.
And, of course, what happened after that?
But they were not fully Jews.
They were not Jews at all.
Because they didn't follow the Torah.
Maybe some practices like circumcision.
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it has nothing to do with this.
- Okay. - They were You see, the thing is here we're talking about ethnicity.
Ethnicity is not an hypothesis, it's not a religion.
The Casar hypothesis of Ashkenazi ancestry, like I said, is a bit of the problem that we will have to discuss today.
But basically, the medieval sources that this hypothesis draws from are known as the Khazar correspondence, which was basically a set of documents that date between the 1950s to the 1960s, after Christ, and there are letters between a guy called Ashdai ibn Shabruy,
who was foreign secretary to the caliph of Cordoba, and the representative of the Khazars, who was a guy called Joseph Kagan.
And the correspondence of these documents gives us an account, of course, of the Khazar conversion to Judaism and its progress into subsequent generations of people who have embraced the Jewish faith,
until the fall of the Khazar Empire, which, until the fall of the Khazar Empire, which, of course, will last another couple of centuries, but starts to, let's say, the official fall of the Khazar Empire is dated 969 after Christ.
So, the Khazar state was still militarily powerful and received tributes from several From several, of course, and tribes and stuff.
And at one point we have also some, how you say, some evidence of this conversion, especially not so long ago.
There was a discovery in Crimea, which is a contested land, as you know, because a lot of what we will be discussing about the Kazakhs today comes from Ukraine, of course, in Crimea, which is, as you know, at the moment a very contested land between Ukraine and Russia.
They found some coins which portrayed the symbols of Judaism but on one side also the symbols of Turkish nomadic tribes that actually became the people involved in this Khazarian kingdom.
The Khazarians were never Jews, they were Turkish nomadic tribes who at one point made simply a decision because they were a bit squashed between different powers and they decided to embrace for the control of the religious system, the religious faith.
A lot of people, of course, converted even amongst the poorest classes, but not the entire population.
And there was never an obligation to force them into, of course, I mean, Judaism has never been a religion that has forced its conversion.
So other people continue the two with their pagan beliefs, their shamanic beliefs.
Now, one of the books which I suggest, the more recent edition of this book, actually, is better because it's the third edition, The Jews of Kazaria, Kevin Allen Brock.
Now, this book in particular gives us a real understanding about a lot of the problems that we have in this misconception.
However, it gives us also all the genetic data that demonstrates that there was never, after a careful study of the genetic data, they saw that the modern Ashkenazi don't have they saw that the modern Ashkenazi don't have any of the common DNA traces that we find in the Kazarians.
So, I mean, it's this whole thing of claiming that the Khazarians were in some way the ancestors of the Ashkenazi and of most of the Jewish population of Eastern Europe.
It's false also because the Ashkenazi are a minority within Judaism.
And they talked, to reinforce that, they talked Yiddish that has nothing to do with Turkish languages that the Khazarians spoke.
That's a German thing, otherwise they would have some traces.
And the other thing that you said that was very important, even the coins, they found the Star of David.
That's too early for the Star of David because the Star of David was not adopted until the 19th century, if I remember well.
The Star of David, that is the hexagon, was used by many tribes, even in Hinduism and in the East, you know, at that time.
You could say that there were some traces of symbolism regarding the menorah, for example.
However, 80% of the Jews of the world, so 12 to 13 million Jews, descend from 400 families, more or less.
Around the year 1000, I mean, when it comes down to the Ashkenazis in particular, we know that, of course, we found the Ashkenazis mostly based in what is now Germany, for example, all that area.
We, of course, will find them also in Poland and then in what is modern Ukraine.
But having said this, the Kazars themselves, like I said, they were a population that simply embraced the Jewish religion.
But there is a lot, of course, of controversy because a Jewish rabbi who was called Isaac Bayer Levinson, Who was born in 1788 and died in 1860, was born in Ukraine.
He launched this possible connection between the Ashkenazi Jews and the Kazarians.
So he was the one who started this connection.
Then we find also, in the late 19th century, another important auto researcher, Ernest Renan,
And other scholars who speculated that the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe originated amongst the Turkish refugees who had migrated, not properly only from Turkey, but also from other areas like Turkmenistan, for example, who had migrated from the collapsed Khazarian Khanate westwards into Europe.
Now, this whole conspiracy theory that is surfacing now mainly comes from one author, though, which is a guy called Arthur Koester.
Koester wrote a book which was published in 1976.
This book was entitled The Thirteenth Tribe.
Now, the Thirteenth Tribe picked up on the Kazarian theory.
Which have been floating around Central Europe for quite some time.
And this guy, I mean, he actually was a Hungarian-born author and journalist who had, by the way, joined earlier on the Communist Party in Germany.
Then at the end of the 1930s, he became disillusioned with Stalinism.
He eventually moved to Great Britain.
He would work for the British Secret Service, for the agents.
And so he was not, I mean, some people say that he, in a way, Because he was also partly maybe Jewish himself.
He kind of wanted, in a way, to launch this whole theory, almost to want to help the Jews, but in reality create a whole line of anti-Semitism.
Because what happened here is this.
The Kazarian theory was spread mostly to favor the Palestinians and it gave a theory that the Palestinians could use also to their advantage because of course there was the, you know, Israel had been recently taking over the territory that was not originally...
From the end of the 1940s, with the UN resolutions, and its future, of course, was also put into question when you say that these Jews were not really Jews that had been ever living there, but were actually Khazarians.
It kind of helped, you understand?
It helped the Palestinian case.
to say that they shouldn't be there.
And also the case that the Israel-British heritage or origin of Israel, because some people, some British, like coming bements and all that people.
The thing is with Kessler and with what he was trying to do, It's a little bit weird because I've been talking with some of my Jewish friends about it and they told me that basically he was, you know, the fact that he was trying to prove that today Ashkenazi were descended from the Khazars, the fact that he was trying to prove that today Ashkenazi were descended from the Khazars, he thought that
In reality, it helped antisemitism even more.
So, It's like saying, let's say, Libyans come from Italians because some of them they speak Italian.
But we know it's not true.
I mean, we know that the troops were there, Italian troops, but Libyans don't come originally from Italians, of course.
Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
Now, there's a book, I have the Khazars, the Turkish Empire on the Steps, 7th to 11th century AD, because that's the period, like we said, that the Khazar Empire was living and was prospering very much.
It was actually a very powerful entity.
And in this book, there is pictures of various things that seem to have a lot of Jewish markings on various gear.
And on an helmet, there is actually a menorah.
So there is not the Jewish Star of David, like you said, a more recent symbol, but the menorah is a much more ancient symbol that is being always used by the Jewish people.
So, there is, like I said, some other archaeological evidence that comes from Crimea, but then the various theses that were pushing this notion came in various stages.
Like I said, the first guy was this Rabbi Isaac Bayer Levinson, then later on, There was, like we said, other people like Ernest Renan, and before, much before Arthur Koestler published The Thirteen Tribes in 1976, there was also Hugo von Cuchera, who basically wrote a book.
He was particularly influential.
This guy was basically a He's an Austro-Hungarian diplomat and orientalist.
He was born in 1847 and died in 1909.
In the last year of his life, he dedicated himself to the study of the Khazars.
A lot of his work has been...
He had experience with various languages, he had been an orientalist, he knew and he had this, he was convinced of the origin of Eastern Jews from the Khazar people.
So he wrote this book that was published after his death and this book was basically portraying again this theory that the Ashkenazis somehow were descended from the Khazars.
Then later on there was an American And this happened before the book which we mentioned earlier, which is The 13 Tribes by Arthur Koester, that is rather recent, it was 1976.
There was a guy called Maurice Fishberg, and Maurice Fishberg was actually also born in Ukraine.
And in 1911 he published a book about the Jews studying to the race and it was actually I think the exact title of this book was Just a second.
I think that I have it written somewhere.
It's a study of race and environment.
And he was also somebody who tried to push this erroneous concept and that, of course, there was somehow The Jews were originating, the majority of Jews, from the Khazars.
Now, this book that I showed you earlier is interesting, but there is also another book by the same author which is called The Maternal Genetic Lineages of Ashkenazi Jews, which It's of course done with the most modern focuses on the 129 material apple groups.
It's focused basically on the most modern approach that these historians now have, basing themselves on outermost DNA studies.
You know, there's a lot of people that give their DNA to some companies.
This at times is a matter of controversy, but they claim that, you know, in this way they can have really a genealogical DNA testing, which is much more accurate.
And with these studies, you can really get to the bank a lot of lies.
So a few years ago, in 2012, there had been a study published by an academic guy called Aaron Etalk.
And he basically had published a paper entitled The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry, Contrasting the Rhineland and Kazarian Hypothesis.
And he seemed to have been more like, he was like, his findings said that they supported the Kazarian hypothesis and portrayed the European Jewish genome as a mosaic that included also them.
But this was a study that was then debunked later on by Kevin Allenbrock, which makes a much more in-depth study And when it comes here, I need maybe a pair of glasses.
And in the meantime, in the meantime, he's he's getting his glasses.
I mean, talking to rabbis for for many years and stuff, Jews actually are defined by the Torah, not by genetics.
So you have a lot of Jews from from Hinduism.
You have a lot of Jews from from Germany.
You have Jews from America.
And they don't have any, any traces that they are, you know, they're all going to be different.
The same as Irish.
If you get Irish, all they're going to say, oh, Irish Catholic.
Of course, they are common because all Catholics, they have the same DNA.
Of course, they're going to have the same DNA.
They're from the same area.
But, but Jews are defined by the Torah.
So it's like, you know, they follow the Torah.
Another thing that you mentioned.
OK, no, that is not at least my opinion.
It's in the sense that, yes, you can have, of course, I think that the most important, I mean, Jews are a glorious mix of Israelite and local blood from diaspora lands.
This is a more, let's say, a more clear description.
They are, you know, there is Jewish, of course, DNA.
I'm myself partly Ashkenazi Jew, so I can tell that.
I mean, I did a DNA test and it came, comes up, it comes up.
So it's, it's like clearly when he said that they When eventually, and here, in this particular book, he says, historians have debated the origin of a Khazar component in modern Ashkenazi Jewry for two centuries.
Rabbi Isaac Bayer Levinson was an early proponent of the hypothesis, as we just said, and he said that the Russian Jews came from the Volga River valley of Khazaria.
In the 20th century, then, of course, we have also Artur Koestler, which is talked about.
But now that you have geneticists that are actually working on researching all this, they found that the Ashkenazim are not genetically related at all closely to the Turkic-speaking Chuvash and Tatar peoples of the Volga region, nor to North Caucasian peoples.
Their studies sampled Adygea, Balkars, Chechens, So, this is a very in-depth study that is being done, and that's why we need to debunk the lies you see that are continuously said.
We can't continue to confuse people.
So, many times we need to debunk this Caesarian nonsense.
I think it's very important that, you know, it was like I mean, it's a lie that at times is used for anti-Semitism, more than once.
I understand that.
But what I'm saying, for example, is with Henry Abrahamson, that also has a YouTube channel.
You guys can check it there.
I'm just following what some of the rabbis say about, you know, you can be Jewish if you choose to be Jewish.
That is a religious choice.
Of course.
With your identity as an Italian, as a Spanish, as an English.
English, whatever.
You know, we are talking here about a, you know, a, because you see, in the year 922 after Christ, the Arabic writer, Ahmed ibn Faldan, was traveling in the Khazarian kingdom.
and wrote his impressions and experiences.
He definitely confirmed that the king was Jewish, but he still said that Jewish represented a minority in the kingdom.
Now, most Khazarians are Muslims or Christians, he said, There was also evidence of very un-Jewish practices, such as, for example, the ritual murder of the king if he deemed to have decayed mentally, something that could have been, that we could apply very easily also to Joe Biden.
But we will need to bring back these Kazarian rules.
In any case, there is also evidence from various customs that there was a widespread conversion to Judaism.
And there is also studies that show that there was a lot of paganism still, and actually in this book there is a whole discussion regarding The shamanic practices here of the angry shamanism within the Khazarian Empire.
And what kind of practices?
The early Khazars routinely sought advice of a shaman or medicine man called the Kham in Turkic.
A shaman will enter a trance-like state in an attempt to contact the invisible spirit war, to exorcise evil spirit under the earth's surface, and to win the protection of benevolent spirits.
Shamans were considered to be both healers and predictors of future events.
So they were very much also the Khazars into an elaborate assemblage of gods, similar to that of Bulgars or other Turkic tribes.
But, like we said, at one point they made a decision.
And they decided to, at least the guiding elite of the country, decided to convert to Judaism.
At that point, they of course also invited the Jews from around the world to join them, and for that reason, of course, some Jewish blood entered within the Khazarian Empire, for sure.
Like you have like you have Irish blood in northern Spain or in France or in some parts of Italy even Liguria you have some Rh negative that matches for example another northern Spanish tribe like the Basque or the Wales or the Scottish so there's always going to be some some DNA linkage because the Europeans we all made up of the same DNA pool you know so You can't really reject that.
Even the Jews, because they are Sephardic.
They came originally, you know, from Spain.
Well, I mean, the Jews are not only Sephardic.
Those Sephardic, of course, constitute... More than Ashkenazi, of course.
Ashkenazi is nothing.
He's very small.
You have various... You have Roman Jews, for example, which are very ancient.
I mean, the Roman Jewish enclave is one of the oldest ones in the world.
So, now, the thing is this, the Khazar thesis is crucial for those people who want to view the Jews are not descendants from ancient Israelites.
And they claim that the many blonde, blue-eyed people among the Ashkenazi, in particular, can support this claim.
Like I said before, the Jewish people... I didn't quite catch that.
They say, this thesis or whatever it is, that you have blond hair people, Ashkenazi blond hair people.
Yes, you have, of course.
But they were Turkish people, they can't be... No, no, but that's what I'm saying.
They can't be blond, man.
No, but that's why.
I mean, look at him.
No, but that's why the serious studies on this whole topic have demonstrated that the Ashkenazi have nothing to do with the Khazars, because the Khazars are Turkic, so they are of course more dark.
Look at the Khazars.
They're like this painting here.
Yeah.
They're gonna be like Greek or like, you know, Southern Italian or Turkic people, you know, like even some Russian people, they're Turkic.
That's why the rest come from Kiev.
You can find some descendants of the modern Khazars in Hungary.
In Hungary at times you have that people that are not so Slavic looking, for example.
You have the Khazars in Transylvania, you have the Khazars in Lithuania, you have the Khazars in Belarus.
You have, of course, the Khazars, like I said earlier, also you have the Khazars in Poland, and so you have the Khazars also in Ukraine, because the Khazars lived in Ukraine beginning with the westward expansion of the Khazar Empire.
Empire, yeah.
In what is the Dnipro Valley.
and by the middle of the 10th century, as a social community of Jews, possibly part of the Kazarian, lived in the city of Kiev.
But in Kiev, you have also Jews that came that were real Jews.
Not that I'm saying that the Khazarians are not real Jews, but they're not ethnically Jews.
You mentioned some important thing here, Kiev.
So Kiev was like a Jewish post in like Ukraine, Donbass and Central Asia.
But it was not like the people there were originally Jewish.
That's what you're saying.
It was a post.
First of all, we have very different types of Jews that also lived at the same time.
You had the mountain Jews, the so-called mountain Jews that are basically also said to be descendant to some extent from the Khazarians.
Look, these are Khazars.
They look a bit Asian.
They're Turkic people.
If we go on the Mountain Jews, for example, the Mountain Jews look a bit Khazarian.
They look more... Now, where are the Mountain Jews based?
The Mountain Jews are based in the Eastern and Northern Caucasus, mainly Azerbaijan.
Part of what, you know, Chechnya, Ingustetia, Dagestan, and those people, you know, in those countries, you have people who are pretty dark.
The mountain Jews are descendants of Persian Jews from Iran.
And some people have claimed that they were also descendants of the Khazarians, but also that is a little bit, the mountain Jews are distinct, for example, from Georgian Jews or So, when you go into all this search, you know, it's very complex.
It's not an easy thing, guys, because this is about defining the origins of these people and also the lies that are said.
The Khazarian Empire, of course, was bordering with the very famous and influential Byzantine Empire.
Yeah, we got it there.
But what I want to ask you to also, I know it's controversial, is that, okay, just let's imagine for one second, let's just imagine for one second, the Ashkenazi Jews come from there, from Khazaria?
No, they don't come from Khazaria, I tell you.
But let's just imagine, let's just imagine, Leo.
I have demonstrated that the Ashkenazi origin, genetic studies have demonstrated that a close relationship exists between Eastern European Ashkenazi Jews And many of the people who inhabit the Middle East, of course.
Of course, of course.
Let's get on this hypothesis that I didn't know, that you are actually proving that it's wrong.
And let's just assume, okay, assume just for a moment, because ours are the asking nasty Jews.
I think that the best thing I can say here is this.
Okay.
Let me fire the question.
This is important.
So, they're saying that Rothschild and Rockefeller and all these people, they are Ashkenazi because they come from the Khazarians.
So what?
What, the Khazarians, they were beasts?
They were evil?
Or what is the fucking point?
You understand what I'm asking you?
First, their thesis, like I said, serves only the purpose to say that these people are not from Israel.
And so basically they have no business in getting back and building back Israel after the Second World War.
This is the fundamentally why they are spreading this lie.
Everything else is propaganda.
It's basically, you know, they say these people descend from the Khazars.
They were never really Israelites.
They were just converts to Judaism.
And then they spread the power and tentacles and they're taking over the world.
This is what they're claiming.
First of all, their claim comes from the big lie that the Ashkenazi Jews descend from Kazars.
So here we have to go back to the DNA studies, because here then we can really demystify and debunk this whole thing.
Now, in 2013, a definitive study done on the genetics by professional genetic teams, included comprehensive analysis of autosomal DNA, which is a way, for those who don't know, and we have to explain this a second, because then people can understand why we are short of our assertions.
And, you know, autosomal DNA studies is a term used in genetic genealogy to describe DNA, which is inherited from the autosomal chromosomes.
An autosomal is any of the numbers, the chromes, that are opposed to the sex chromosomes.
Humans have 22 pairs of autosomals and one pair of sex chromosomes.
The X chromosome and the Y chromosome.
Autosomals are numbers roughly in relation to their sizes.
Now, it's thanks to this careful study that they have arrived to this conclusion.
So, if Ashkenazim had been descendants from converts, Converted Khazars or Alans.
Listen to this.
The Alans are the tribe from the north of Germany.
Okay.
From the Rhineland.
Yeah.
The Rhineland.
They will have had no dwarf be identical by descent sharing some of these populations.
In reality, they have only extremely low identical by descent sharing.
from ancestors who live in very ancient times, well before the Khazarian era.
As we know now, uniparental DNA, which is Y-DNA and MT-DNA, that's in short, does not show any Ashkenazi-Khazar connection either.
Hypothesis that the Ashkenazis varieties of the wild DNA apple groups, because the apple group also is very important to define your origin, is fundamental, I would say.
Q and R and RI, I could have, because basically this whole thing has been invalidated, which leaves no white DNA apogrups in the Ashkenazi population that could have come directly from center which leaves no white DNA apogrups in the Ashkenazi population that could have come directly from center So you see, here is completely debunked this whole thing.
Once we go into the genetics of it, there can't be any supposition, any theory, any speculation.
Then it's science that, you know, through a methodology that is very accurate, I mean, I'm sure that a lot of people, you know, will have some problems if we were not relating completely to science.
But in this case, it's very important to relate to science.
Why?
Because the Ashkenazi do not descend from any of the lineages of Khazar men, whether royal, noble or commoner.
The Ashkenazi empty DNA.
Apo groups of East Asian origin do not support a narrative of Khazarian heritage.
The most likely explanation for their existence among Ashkenazi is medieval intermarriage between traveling Ashkenazi merchants and Chinese women.
Yeah, because, you know... That's why they have his lead eyes, they're Turkish.
But what I'm saying... ...the fact that they were on the Silk Road.
Let's remember this, like you said right at the beginning, no?
We are talking about the Silk Road here, you know?
This empire was positioned in a very, at that time, very important strategic route.
Exactly.
So it doesn't seem to me they're actually Jewish.
I mean, for what I read and I learned, even the DNA test, even though it's a small, very portion of sample, because it has to be a bit greater, but the big bosses of, you know, Jewish Torah and even rabbis, they say that the main families that they made up the DNA genetic pool of some of the Jews, not all of them, of course, because in the end it's a religion.
They are the Levites and they're from the fathers, not the mothers.
So that's why they were looking for that Y, you know, chromosome.
No, that's very interesting.
But the Turkic element is not present in the Ashkenazi.
No, no, it's not.
So if you don't have the Turkish shell, the Turkic, sorry, because I say Turkey, but it's Turkey.
The Turkic element within, the fact that it's not present in the modern Ashkenazi population, that is the answer that you've been searching for.
So, accusing, and then there is this whole anti-Semitic conspiracy that says the Ashkenazi, they are the Ashkenazi, they are the evil ones, and all this BS.
Okay, you know, there is of course the Sabbatean Frankists.
As you know, I wrote extensively about it.
I wrote extensively about it in Volume 9.
I wrote about it in Volume 7.
I wrote about it in Volume 4 of my confessions.
My books are very much detailed regarding this whole heresy within the Jewish world and what it represented.
But often it's actually thanks to this whole Kazarian disinformation that we never talk about the real problem, which is really the heretics within Judaism, which are a little bit like the heretics within Christianity.
Or within Catholicism, because I don't consider the Jesuits as being proper Catholics or proper Christians.
Now, Ukraine had a significant Jewish community that dates back to the Middle Ages.
And the history of Ukrainian jewelry has been very difficult.
But in my book, I describe how the identity of the Ukrainians has been artificially constructed within the last two centuries.
So in reality, the Ukrainian jewelry was simply part of Russian jewelry.
Often they are referred as Russians.
Like, for example, when I mentioned the guy who actually put through for the first time this theory, Isaac Bear Levinson, this guy who basically, for the first time, started to make this connection between the Ashkenazi and the Khazarian.
Well, he has been called the Mendelssohn of Russia, not the Mendelssohn of Ukraine, simply because Ukraine didn't exist.
It was an artificial construct and I explained very well in my latest book how this artificial construct came together.
Having said that, when it comes instead to Ukraine, of course Ukraine has influenced very much the Jewish world and, you know, of course the borders of Ukraine shifted following the collapse of the Russian Empire and later the Soviet Union.
But the astonishing number of Ukrainian Jews who are part of our culture, but also of Jewish culture.
We have, for example, Baal Shem Tov, who was the founder of Assyrian Judaism, who comes from Ukraine.
And he was, you know, he's part of an Orthodox spiritual revivalist movement that in a way wanted to oppose what the Sabbateans had started, that heresy that was kind of really mining the very foundations of Judaism.
So, Baal Shem Tov, who was born in 1698 in Okhob, Ukraine, and whose name means literally Master of the Good Name, and often abbreviated to Best, is definitely a very important figure that I don't see as a negative figure.
Then we have Golda Meir, who ascended to international prominence when she was elected Prime Minister of Israel in 1969.
And she was born in Kiev, in Ukraine, in 1898.
Mayer was the fourth woman in the world to serve as head of state.
And of course, she was born in Ukraine, so... And when was he born in Ukraine again?
He was born, because you are Golda Mayer, she was born in 1898.
1898?
That was Russia.
That was the czarist Russia.
Because from 1789-90, that was Russia.
Ukraine didn't exist.
No, no.
Let's say that Ukraine started to exist within that period.
Because in that period, you had first the Ruthenian idea that transformed itself in Ukrainian.
Because first, there wasn't even the name Ukrainian.
It was called Ruthenian.
Ruthenian, yeah.
OK, but the very foundations of what will then later on become the Soviet Republic of Ukraine with that united and then with the whole of the Soviet Union.
Well, those first, let's say, elements came in that period.
Yes, we can say that technically, to some extent, it was Russia.
With the Tsaris, with Russia, and then Lenin made the mistake of having these Baltic republics and giving himself determination.
That wasn't Marxist, because Marx does not approve self-independence of little republics.
No, but there was already in Ukraine a tendency, because this I explain in my book.
There was a number of secret societies that developed inspired by the Illuminati, who in the period around 1848, when there was the so-called spring revolutions, not the ones in the Middle East, but the ones that happened in Europe, all over Europe, were piloted by the Illuminati, who wanted to simply destabilize the monarchies of Europe.
And they wanted, in some way, to construct the Europe of the future that was... Oh, that's true.
Destroying all the monarchies means also destroying all the religions and, of course, pushing a more progressive agenda.
Having said that, the first secret societies that we see evolving in Ukraine They are the ones that are connected, of course, with Freemasonry.
Freemasonry that arrived in Ukraine through Poland and through Russia, of course.
But as soon as Freemasonry started to spread, there was also these other secret societies, which I talk about in Volume 9, which were instead spreading the idea of an independent Ukraine that will be leading the rest of the Slavic nations in a Federation in which the Russians will be simply equals to them.
So that was the problem.
The demise of Russia or the Soviet Union was having too many independent republics doing fucking fuck all.
That's why when they want to divide or break up some kind of country or federation, let's say in this case Europe, it becomes in the end a failure, you know?
I think that the thing is that both Poland and Prussia, Germany basically, They hated very much Russia.
At the same time, the Illuminati were founded, of course, in Germany, and they were pushing also for Ukraine to create its own identity so they could then push this part of Russia, away from Russia, into their hands, which is something that is still happening nowadays with NATO trying to push the whole of Ukraine
into their hands, or the Russians that have opposed all this and since 2014 have occupied Donbass.
They have, of course, reclaimed Crimea, and they are now waging war because they see that Ukraine was simply a place called Ukraine because Ukraine means borderland.
Borderland, no?
So in chapter two, as you are showing now to our viewers of my latest book, for the first time I show all these various secret societies, way too many to mention that I were the protagonist of creating way too many to mention that I were the protagonist of creating Now, Ukraine at one point, just prior to the Russian Revolution, was trying to build an Ukrainian identity.
And at times also with the help of the Catholic Church, which wanted to mine the interest of the Orthodox Church.
At one point, they created even an organization that was known as the Rutanian Supreme Council after the spring revolutions.
And they tried to create the increasing this Ukrainian identity.
And then before the Soviet Union, There was the creation of the People's Republic of Ukraine.
The actual basis of what Ukraine is today was laid three or four years prior to the establishment of the Soviet Union in 1922.
From that moment onwards, of course, Ukraine became simply the Soviet Republic of Ukraine, a member-founder.
of the United Soviet Union, which was a system of countries, of republics who had embraced the communist idea.
And, of course, at that point, they started to reject the orthodox faith that then was re-embraced once the Soviet Union was dismantled.
But nowadays, the orthodox faith also represents, in the eyes of most of the Ukrainian elite that wants to, and you're showing it there, basically the persecution of the orthodox church in Ukraine basically the persecution of the orthodox church in Ukraine today is...
It's the result of this anti-Russian sentiment, and I think that it's rather clear that the Pope, who just was visited the other day by General Milley, I call him General Milley-Vanille.
He's a fake, yeah.
He went to talk with the Pope, which I mean is in itself a very unusual move.
Why do you have to go and talk with the Pope about the war in Ukraine and about the future of the war in Ukraine?
But let's not forget that the Catholic Church has a lot to do with this war, because one of the orders, Catholic orders, which is Catholic but also Masonic, which is the International Order of Saint Stanislaus, or the Order of Saint Stanislai, which is two separate orders now, but there used to be one order,
Well, this order, which was founded originally in Poland, then started to spread in the 90s in Ukraine after the fall of the Soviet Union, and it became the leading Masonic order in Ukraine, and Zelensky is part of it, and the International Order of Saint Stanislao, and the various related bodies of Saint Stanislao, they are connected to both the Jesuits and Freemasonry,
and they are used to drive and control this new elite that forms in Ukraine and then persecutes the Orthodox Church.
Now, the Orthodox Church in Ukraine has been completely persecuted for political reasons and none other than political reasons.
What you're showing also, the fact that the faithful surround their representatives, but then after that they get kicked out of their churches, of their monasteries, simply because they still depend from Russia.
They want to also change the traditions.
Ukrainian people.
They moved the celebration of Christmas from the traditional Orthodox Christmas to the celebration we have here in the West on the 25th of December.
So that is a big change.
There is a big war within Ukraine when it comes down to the faith.
And it's, of course, the Sabbatian Frankists and those heretical Jews are to blame.
But there is no such thing as the Kazarians actually involved at the moment in Syria.
So, Kazarians didn't disappear and turn into Ashkenazis from night to day, because we have to be wrapping up here.
Leo says that there is some genetic tracing that takes you back to Jerusalem from the Jews, obviously, and they probably have some right to claim some whereabouts there.
We kind of have seen everything.
You explained it very well.
It's a complex theme because it involves a lot of different things from different geographical parts.
And because of the diaspora, you know, it can be anywhere.
I can come up with something saying like, oh, I'm from Liguria because somebody just reached England, you know, London in somewhere in the past and blah, blah, blah.
And all people from London, they're back.
About 5.2% of the Ashkenazi men possess the Y chromosome lineages within the QP36 APO group, which is a very specific one, which is found in Central and Northern Asia, as well as Amerindians, but much more rarely amongst Europeans and Middle Easterners.
Now, some researchers thought it was possible that this could have been inherited from the Khazars, but this idea is no longer viable.
Ashkenazis belong to the QAPO groups that were later precisely identified as QY220 and QYP1035.
And it's like, you know, these are very specific branches, like the Turkic people have a specific that is not reflected in the like the Turkic people have a specific that is not reflected And so this...
So, and it's, This whole thing, it's simply the researchers have speculated very much for two centuries about the Ashkenazis-Kazarian hypothesis, but in the end it didn't really It didn't really come together.
Most Ashkenazi and Ashkenazi Levites, which descend and originate from, for example, the the Middle East, likely Persia, for example, proportional to Sephardim, along with the Ashkenazi branch also that have this kind of descendant.
But the Khazarian element is being debunked now.
So I think it's very important to understand.
We have debunked this.
There's no proof that, even from the other part, that for sure, suddenly the Khazars disappear, or the Mahyars, or Attila, or whoever was there, and then became the Ashkenazis from the Rhineland, you know?
No, it seems like the Ashkenazi gradually got absorbed in the populations of the land where they were living in.
It doesn't seem like they went around the world to conquer anything, really.
No, no, no.
And even the cultural symbols that we see from the Khazars, they are symbols that the Hindus and other people use, like the Star of David, that is very recent and appear in... I know, but the Khazars, like I said, adopted some Jewish symbols, especially the... But they couldn't adopt Leo in the 11th century, the Star of David, because it didn't exist.
That is another thing.
And the Menorah.
Like I said, the Menorah was present.
But the Menorah is also a symbol of Egypt, like Amen-Ra.
Menorah, Amen-Ra.
I mean, you have it also.
I mean, that is a little bit more... I know.
I'm just throwing here some esoteric knowledge, you know.
I know you like it, and just be positive.
And also, you know, you have the Trident of Poseidon.
The Trident of Poseidon is like a menorah, like the light of Poseidon.
I mean, many things, you know, that also influence the Jews, so the Jews... There's also no genetic evidence that the mountain Jews descend from the Khazars.
That's another thing that I have to... Leo and I, we're not from the mountain.
We're from the city.
We're city cosmopolitan people, so...
You know that we have Today, at least, for all our viewers, explained very well that the emigration of German Jews into Eastern Europe, for example, the English-speaking Ashkenazi Jews from Germany and Austria, don't have anything with the Khazars.
There is no Ashkenazi conspiracy coming from the Kingdom of Khazaria, people.
There is, though.
There is, though.
By the way, the Jacob Frank, who was the guy who claimed, like I explain in my books, of course, who claimed he was the reincarnation of Sabbatai Zevi, who was himself living in Turkey, but most of the Jews who were living in Turkey were Sephardic, were not Ashkenazi, by the way.
Yeah, but you can say also that... With Jacob Frank, of course, then it becomes an Ashkenazi thing, you know?
But in reality, it's not about... It's about the whole of Judaism that gets infiltrated by this Sabbatean Frankist.
Exactly.
And then that conspiracy is a much more present conspiracy that we need to look into and that I invite all our viewers to check out.
Go check it out.
The people like Eric Kissinger is a Sabbatean Frankist, and this has been recognized by Rabbi Anterman, who even did a ritual to excommunicate him.
And these are things that have been fought for the last two centuries within Judaism.
This heresy, actually, for over two and a half centuries, this heresy has been present, and the Frankists need to be fought.
Nobody gives them, you know, any... Everybody's focusing on the Kazarian because the Kazarian... Kazarian, they're out there, man.
They're in the fucking wilderness.
Forget about Kazarians, people.
We're not interested in Kazarians.
We're interested in that Leo is the reincarnation of Rodolfo Valentino and I'm the reincarnation of...
Brad Pitt.
Brad Pitt.
Look at me.
I'm so fucking handsome and Leo is so fucking handsome.
We're always positive.
There is no conspiracy of the Zionists from Caesarea coming down from spaceships and abducting Leo and myself.
From the Sabbateans and the Jesuits, yeah?
The Sabbateans and the Jesuits and all the work that we're trying to do here is to debunk also this Hafthor Koestler.
Some people say he might have wanted to help the Jews by spreading these lies within, present in his book, The Thirteen Tribes, but he actually harmed a lot of people by doing this.
And today we see it with all the hate that we, you know, when we go in all these alternative sites, the hate that they are pushing against Jews every day, accusing Kazarians, Kazar, you are not really And the Jews go around in spaceships, abducting people with alien probes, man.
It's like, it's the Jews always, it's the Jews always.
And now, you know, I'm gonna get all the heat here, I'm gonna get all the heat.
It's like, the Vatican goes around, you know, abducting people.
Pope Francis gets into a spaceship and goes abducting Rodolfo Valentino.
And he chained, he cloned him, he cloned Biden too.
I mean, come on people, let's be just freaking honest here.
Let's just see all the information, all the evidence, let's listen to Leo, and let's be positive, because if you're positive, you know, we're trying to be honest and have some sense of humor and satire too, that is part of our culture, and we just have to laugh at the evil people, because remember, the good guys, they're always winning, but they never win.
And the bad guys, they're always losing, but they never lose.
So there's a balance.
And Rodolfo Valentino and Brad Pitt here, we actually keep the balance.
So don't worry about that.
Leo.
I hope so.
I thank you a lot, bro.
I thank you a lot, bro, for your 60 minutes we have here.
I salute you, Captain Zagami.
Thank you very much, guys.
Take care.
And don't forget to buy the freaking book!
This freaking book you have to have it in your collection after the nine tomes.
You will have a master and a PhD.
Show it there!
Show it there!
Show the freaking book, man!
This book that can be read without reading all the others.
So, you start from Volume 9, my latest book.
It's Seven Steps to the Secrets of the New World Disorder from Transhumanism, Immortality to Gnostic Jesus, UFOs and Insect Witchcraft.
Everything you need to know in this new world disorder.
God bless you.
And God bless you.
God bless Leo and everyone there in California.
And all my family who is still there.
Don't get anything in your fucking arm.
Don't get anything anywhere, man.
Don't get a chip in your head.
And forget about people abducting, you know, other people with freaking... We have more important things to worry about.
Leo Zagami, right there.
Confession of the Illuminati.
We're gonna strike back.
Napoleon, which has been a very important figure in discussing Napoleon with Colin Rivas.
Did Napoleon exist?
Was Neapoleon... He had three sisters, and he had also a mother called Leto or Leticia.
It's very interesting, all these subjects.
There are some authors, they negate the Napoleon hypothesis.
And we gotta check also the Chinese.
We have to go after the Chinese.
The Chinese, the Mao Zedong and Kissinger.
Because you talk about Kissinger, and this is very important, the Kissinger thing, and the Chinese, and the Liptards.
Because the Liptards, they're trying to copy the Chinese.
And be like fucking Roberts, yeah?
The most incredible thing is that today Republicans still view positively Nixon.
If it wasn't for Nixon and Kissinger, probably China would still be living a very different kind of life, and they would definitely not be the number one economic power in the world, soon to be.
So, I mean, we let it happen here.
And there is some secrets that need to be revealed regarding that.
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