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EPISODE 79: AUA (ASK US ANYTHING) '25 (DECEMBER 27th, 2025)

While Byron takes some time to gets his shit together, we lean of y'all to tell us what to talk about, answering all your burning questions.  "THE BOYS" shirts are available NOW! Like what we're doing? Want MORE for FREE? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub Theme music by DJ Danarchy

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This is an AudioWool original.
It's a great question.
Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast, Louder with Crowder.
My name is Byron.
Across from me, it's Dennis.
Hey, no big deal.
Doesn't matter.
Fuck it, dude.
Not in the Lone Star State.
It's another guy across from me.
His name is Jared.
I'm back.
Happy Christmas.
We're both across the street.
Yeah.
We're technically interviewing you for whether or not you're going to keep your job at Innotech.
Wait, what?
Yeah, Dennis and I actually, we have a new venture here.
And your name is Bob, and your name is Bob?
Yeah, double Bob.
All right.
I'm currently in the middle of a 10-day silent meditation retreat attempting to make myself mentally more fortified.
I don't like that.
Dennis, are you writing this down?
Sounds kind of like unhinged.
You want me to be mentally pained?
Unhinged.
Yeah, yeah, dude.
You know, you don't want me to have some sort of breakdown.
What?
Well, that has happened.
I mean, not on Mike usually.
But this week, though, you queued.
We've got a, it's an AUA.
That's ask us anything.
Aw, it's inclusive.
Oh, I do like that because I'm included.
Like an us, dude.
That's one point for us, one point for him.
Got a lot of really great questions from the Shrug Nation.
Number one, if you had one person in the world, what would you do?
It's a great question.
That's our listener question that we'll ask you.
Oh, we'll ask that.
And they can reach out to us at Dan Crowder.
If you're at one person in the world.
Social media.
Yeah, what would you?
What does have?
I always get stumped by that because I'm like, what does that mean to have a person?
It's simple.
If you had one person in the world, what would you do?
Is that possessing someone's heart or physical?
Have.
I can't be more clear.
I think you could.
But no.
I won't be more clear.
Shrug Nation, you're wonderful.
Yes.
Shrug Nation, we love you.
We asked you guys to send us some questions, both people at Shrug.club, social media, email.
Shrug Rats, ShrugRats IRL.
Excuse me?
I asked people downtown.
Oh, you.
I said, what do you want to know?
And they said, who?
Police can't.
Dennis.
I sit across from Byron.
What do you want to know?
Why are you yelling about this?
This is insane.
I couldn't be any more clear.
I got a lot of drugs.
Great questions from Shrug Nation.
Hell yeah.
Yes, good.
I'm happy.
They're all pieces of shit.
Yeah.
Piece of shit.
I want the soundboard.
Oh, they don't stand.
So sorry.
We'll cut one in here.
Piece of shit.
Well, what one?
Alex?
Alex Jones.
He says piece of shit.
Pieces of shit.
Yes, that's them.
Pieces of shit.
You know what I got myself for a Christmas?
No.
Byron.rip.
Whoa.
Yeah.
You can do that?
Yeah, RIP is a good one.
I share that if you do a .us domain, you can't make those private when you register them.
So I registered a .us domain.
Okay.
Not knowing that, I've been getting phone calls for weeks about, do you want a new logo, blah, And today I told a guy, he called me and I said, hey, I don't want to talk to you.
Please don't call me again.
Okay.
And then he said, well, did you just register this URL?
And I said, I was very clear.
I don't want to hear from you again.
And he goes, well, I'll guarantee that you will.
This guy's threatening you?
And then I got a fake lead on my website.
So I was like, what the fuck?
This is why you need an RIP.
Yeah, that's why I need an RIP.
But that's awesome.byron.rip.
That's great.
Yeah, that's all.
I don't know.
What are you putting there?
Just my Tumblr, I guess.
So, yeah, questions.
I mean, we got a bunch of them.
I don't know how long this is going to go, but I'm here for it, dude.
First question.
It's from Brian A.
And I said, that's a good name.
Brian's close.
Close to it.
Don't do that every time.
I know you're going to.
I won't.
But your gut says yes.
It's going to be funny.
The only question I can think of is, did you guys really meet up for Louder Than Crowder because of a casting call?
Or was that just a bit on one of your episodes?
Thank you and happy New Year.
Well, I have this little black couch at a desk.
Oh, okay.
That's behind the couch.
I think I know what he's going here.
Where are you?
I'm behind the couch.
He's in front of the couch.
All right.
I'm going to cut him off here because we don't need to do it.
Did we say on the show that it was the casting?
Yeah, it was a funny bit.
Yeah, I said that I didn't know you guys before the show, and it was just kind of like I think we compared it to a podcast.
Exactly.
We compared it to a boy band type situation.
We got a Pearlman.
Yeah, we got Pearl together.
It's actually funny.
Should we tell people how we actually met?
We did on episode two.
I think episode one.
And a couple, yeah, we have a couple questions where I will be directing folks to previous episodes.
Okay, but I mean, yeah, Dennis and I know each other intermurial basketball.
I mean, we're 19 now, so we know each other for a couple of years.
A couple years now.
A couple years now.
No, Dennis was on an intermurial after-school basketball team.
I was.
Yeah, and that's when I first laid eyes on him.
Alley Oop.
Yeah.
I think at that time you were dating one of my good friends, Kyla.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that was eighth grade.
It lines up.
Yeah, I think so.
The summer between eighth grade and freshman year is when you and I actually started hanging out.
Yeah, we started playing guitar together.
Yeah.
That was it.
And we started a band, and then we were playing a show, and then Jared tried to fight my dad at a concert show.
And that's how we met Jared.
Yeah.
Rest in peace, Joe Leonard.
Joe Leonard.rip.
Wait, the other guy who tried to fight.
If you really instigated it, he did end up.
He went away.
No.
Not long after that.
Yeah, my dad fucking killed him.
It's crazy.
Wait, wait, wait, what?
Can I say, and this is like, this is dark or whatever, but my dad's funeral, he was dating this girl for like, I don't know, like five weeks or something.
Sure.
And she got up and she was like, I just want to play this song.
Like, really reminds me of him.
Oh, no.
Was it Saves the Day?
No.
It was Kings of Leon, Sex on Fire.
That's insane.
That's a crazy pull.
Yeah.
That's a needle drop.
That's really intense.
Wow.
Like all family was there.
Oh, man, that's absolutely wild.
That's crazy.
And then a couple years later, when did we actually become friends?
Really?
I guess we toured a little bit together.
I moved here in 2005, and then I started seeing you around sometime.
But then we started playing shows with our two former bands.
You went on Tor and Sold Merch a couple times, too.
Yeah, Brian invited me, and you were so-so on it, but then- Because, yeah, I hated you.
Yeah.
Yeah, we had a tour in past when I tried to fight your dad.
We tried to play the same, or we did play the same coverage.
We played the same Screeching Weasels song.
Yeah.
And that was kind of a good thing.
And then we get into the details of the fight.
Yeah.
Go back and listen to episode one.
Yeah, go back.
But we played the Blink Laney 2 cover version of a cover song.
And we did too.
Oh, I assumed that you guys were playing the Screeching Weasels version.
So originally, it would have been from somebody who had heard Screeching Weasel previously, but they kicked him out of the band before I was in the band.
And then they started like, well, Blink Laney 2 does this song also.
And so kind of changed the song to match that one.
Covering a cover.
Both of us were covering a cover.
It was the same one, yeah.
But Mikey would wear a Screeching Weasel song or a shirt at those shows, though, back in the day.
So there was a little bit of credibility there.
A little bit.
But yeah, I think that's just not for me.
I mean, to relitigate this issue, that's just if you played later in the set, you get the benefit of playing later in the set, and you get the downside that the previous bands might cover your shit you play.
Yeah, I think that that's never really happened.
I bet that's happened way more often than either.
We're all playing Enter Sandman and getting pissed at each other.
I would have heard the song before earlier in this show.
It would have been fun.
I was going to play it with the one breakdown in the middle.
Yeah.
But yeah, what was it?
So a casting call, yeah.
Basically, a casting call.
Basically, I went to Billings with your band and I sold a gob of merch, and then you started taking me on all of your t-shirt tours.
Yeah, when I had a clothing company, and we would go to Warp Tour or Bamboozle Left Pitchfork Music Festival.
Yeah, we had a lot of fun.
Jared, you know who became buds?
Yeah, great friends.
I'd come hang out at South by Southwest when you were.
Yeah, you had a Hulk canceled one, a Hulk canceled showcase.
Like, you did the showcase, and then everyone got canceled.
Oh, every band at that showcase.
Yeah, we don't need to talk about it.
And then the other one was Modern Baseball, who didn't get canceled.
Those are like nice young people.
Oh, yeah.
Dang.
Okay, that was a young modern baseball back then.
That was around 2012, 13, 20.
Was it 14?
13, 14.
And years old, we were.
And then was that with Free Throw?
I was trying to remember who was.
Free throw, yeah.
Great band.
Yeah, and we'll talk about music a little bit later, actually.
But again, yeah, we are under contract, sort of say.
But we, for some, whatever reason, we did end up doing a Lou Perlman casting call, but we all knew each other.
Yeah, we already knew each other.
And we were all vibing so well inside the casting call office that they just put us on.
We did that thing where you go on to Judge Judy and like make a fake case just to win the money and then split it.
We learned it from the locust.
Yeah, yeah.
We got a question from Will B. Nice.
Three questions from Will.
Okay.
I will be respectful.
Good.
This is kind of a follow-up to Brian's question.
What made you want to do a podcast about Steven?
I think it was the name.
I think I come up.
We actually started with Louder Than Crowder, and I said, I hope there's a podcast that this name would work to cover.
Yeah, in terms of this guy named when Louder with Crowder, I said, this is perfect.
This guy makes a ton of sense.
I got a lot of safety.
We were just riffing some names.
Louder than Crowder came out of our mouth, and I said, let's write that down and see if anything comes up.
No, what made you think?
We asked AI.
Give me three random words.
You know what's weird is we started this before the big AI boom, right?
Yeah, we did.
We started this a long time ago.
Three years ago.
Like, this was born in our brains for a long time.
That's true.
When did we want to do this?
No, I mean, not really.
About like a year before.
You told me probably over a year before the pre-COVID.
We started talking about it pre-COVID.
Yeah.
So I think it's possible.
I started watching Steven Crowder because I was a fan of his.
I liked the coffee.
Yeah.
No.
No, I think I was just kind of intrigued by him.
We all know my history is like Hillary lost the election and I decided to start paying attention to right-wing media, starting with Gavin McGinnis, Ben Shapiro, and then Steven Crowder.
I saw his Second Amendment change my mind.
And I was like, oh, this guy's interesting.
Being from Montana, I was like, oh, I don't really care if people have nice, normal guns, right?
And of course, that wasn't really what he was going for, but that's the illusion of what he was doing.
So I was like, who is this fucking guy?
And I started paying attention more.
And the more I paid attention, the more I was like, oh, I think I hate this guy.
I got to talk about him with a lot of people, like Dennis.
Things ramped up after January 6th, I think, probably.
Yeah, that was a huge turning point for me.
I mean, I've been pretty political kind of since Bernie Sanders got interrupted by BLM in Seattle.
Yeah, and I saw that.
And I was like, this guy's fucking legit.
And then just following Bernie got me, you know, more political in general.
January 6th fucked me up.
Like, it was one of the moments of time where when I saw that, I was at work and I watched it.
And I left halfway through the day because I was so just like, fuck.
Yeah.
And it fucked me up.
And then just, you know, seeing the crazy division from that, like the people who have never seen videos from January 6th, but have really strong feelings about it.
Sure, they're like, they let them in.
It was like a tour.
You let them in, you know?
Like, I see that.
And like, like, and the thing is, like, people like that are Steven's audience.
You know, people who don't want to do the research and don't want to see the negative side of things.
And I think that's part of why I enjoy doing this podcast is because I think it's good.
I don't know if I want to say enjoy.
I would enjoy doing the podcast, but one of the things I see value in this, listening to what the other side is saying to kind of understand what I'm talking about others with.
I talk to someone and say, this is what you've heard.
I know what you've heard because I, you know, this all the time.
Because I hear it.
A lot of people on the right probably don't listen to what I listen to.
No.
They don't like Don Lamont.
Well, they're not like, yeah, like, oh, I listen to David Pachman and I here's what I think about what he said.
It's not like that at all.
No.
Not how we engage with the information.
Yeah.
We were just saying this before we started recording, but it's just sort of the once you know something, you can't unknow it.
And then that information compounds and it's like very hard to like remove yourself from that information.
Yeah.
And so just like the want to talk about it or just sort of like the want to inform people about what you know because like shit, I because I know it.
And like I feel like you should know it too.
Because if you knew it, then it would also change your mind about the things that you're saying.
That's sort of, you know, that's kind of like how I engage with it to begin with.
But yeah.
To bring it back to the show.
Should I do the question?
Podcast about Steven specifically.
Because I was always an extremism researcher for like throughout the pandemic.
I was a big fan of podcasts.
I think in the first episode, I shout out a ton of podcasts, like Knowledge Fights or QAnon Anonymous or a show that I may be going on later.
I guess probably right about the same time.
I'm not going to say the name of the podcast because who knows if it's going to happen for sure.
But yeah, let's just say a lot of cool folks doing cool things.
And I was like, I think, I mean, because I've been podcasting for a decade now.
I mean, it's been longer than that, man.
Oh, God.
Well, I guess if you count the four year, two years, two years of Friends of Friends podcast, our first podcast, Jared was a guest on that a bunch.
Jared was not.
Jared was a guest on that a bunch.
Peter was.
Oh, Jared wasn't.
I did exactly one episode.
Well, you did.
I did like episode 10 or something like that.
Yeah.
So yeah, we never came back.
Dennis and I had a comedy podcast in the early 2010s.
Yeah, and I'll tell you, when I first started doing that with you, my thought was like, who listens to podcasts?
That's like what I thought.
And then I spent a week in LA and I was working in downtown LA and I got a hotel in Anaheim because I'm a fucking idiot.
Oh, that's so far.
And I go, oh, this is when people listen to podcasts.
Ah, makes sense.
And it all turns out.
During the 45-minute drive, it was a two and a half hour drive.
Jesus.
Yeah, yeah.
Stupid one.
So Dennis and I had this comedy podcast for a couple years.
Yeah, a long time.
Yeah.
We tried rebooting it during the pandemic a little bit.
It didn't work out.
Yeah, it's fine.
And all of it's available now.
I think our last episode was us being really depressed about it.
The pandemic had just started.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was pretty cool.
No, I think we did three or four pandemic episodes.
I remember the 2016 election episode.
I uploaded all of that.
That was so bad.
That was so sad.
I uploaded all those episodes on Audio Wall Plus coming soon.
Oh, that was nice, dude.
So if anyone wants to listen to all that, we have time for the website now, by the way.
Oh, this is going to be great.
We should work on the website.
Work on the website.
LouderwithCrowder.net.
So I've been podcasting a long time.
Then we had this idea for a Steven Crowder show, and then it eventually came together.
We wanted to do it.
There's a couple moments where it almost started, but it finally came together during the re-platforming.
Yeah, we just decided it was time.
Yep, we decided it was time.
And I'm glad we did.
Another question from Will B. Can we expect more guest appearances from RFK this year?
Or more seriously, any other creators in a similar space that you want to collab with, i.e., I hate Bill Maher Knowledge Fight on brand, etc.
So, yeah, I mean, I'm uh-oh.
I got a little Christmas tree for you.
This is amazing.
I've been here the whole time.
I've never seen Jared do the actual physical.
I didn't realize, I thought he was gurgling a little bit.
Fuck.
I gotta talk to it.
And we're gonna think about it right now.
All this stuff about News is coming out.
Cheryl.
Okay, Cheryl's piss.
She got a different, she got me different.
Oh, my God.
He's hurting himself.
Uh-oh.
No, someone else is interrupting him.
It's FlipperZero.
FlipperZero.
I've come back, brother.
I'm telling you.
It's not going to be a good thing.
It's not Flipper Zero.
That's somebody else.
You don't understand.
Flipper Zero is a whole gang, man.
See, you think there's one there's like 16.
I don't even know what's going on.
It's like anonymous.
There's a whole Discord of Flipper Zeros, man.
So we're just pushing them out into, you know, when say our name, we appear type of shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, man.
You mind if I smoke in here?
Okay, so yeah.
I mean, yeah, definitely.
I mean, we've clearly connected with the on-brand folks.
And I don't want to say too much, but I think that RFK might be in Montana right now.
Oh, he currently is.
He actually came here.
Me and Diplo.
Yep, him and Diplo.
Yeah, I hope we can collab with more folks in the new year, and I believe that I'm collabing as we are recording as this is coming out.
So I do hope to be doing a lot more of that.
We're going to be on Piers.
I'm on Piers next week.
Yeah, that's kind of crazy that we locked that in, right?
I'm going to be on Avita.
Is he going to say, say the N-word?
Say the N-word.
What's going on with Denny?
That's classic, classic drop.
It's you versus the Ohoy guy, and he's going to finally confront you on it.
You know, it's me.
You're the Ohoy guy.
You know my name.
I love that.
Is that the Ohoy?
Yeah.
That's it.
Yeah.
So we, I mean, I guess we answered that question.
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely, definitely.
Collabs coming.
And who's the best 90s ska band?
It's also a question from Will B. 90s ska band.
But yeah, Dennis is a third wave guy, and so am I. Third wave guy.
I'm going to say.
I was a big, real big fish guy.
I was a big Goldfinger, if you want to call Goldfinger Sky.
They had a little Scott element to them.
Yeah, Scott Pop Punk.
Goldfinger Stomping Ground was my first band album I bought.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
This is so tough for me.
Probably mustard plug.
Mustard plug has some good stuff, but I'm pretty straightforward with my third wave ska.
Like Less than Jake, a couple of the early albums are pretty solid.
Jared, what do you think?
Suicide Suicide Machines?
What?
Assorted Jelly Beans.
Who's that?
The Kunku Records.
I've never heard of that.
Branded.
That's kind of fun.
It was a lot more punk than that.
I think they had horns, actually.
But they were like an upstroke bass band.
I'll share a funny pop punk.
You probably like Voodoo Glow Scott.
Okay.
Might not have heard it.
When Byron and I were seniors in high school, so that was like last year.
We were seniors in high school.
Yes, of course, before we graduated.
We had the opportunity for us to play a Ska song.
We played Mighty Mighty Boss Tones, the impression that I get.
And we played the guitar and the bass and the drums and sang.
And our marching band of our band played the horns at the homecoming game.
Yeah, the high school marching band.
And it sounds so much cooler than it was.
It sounded like a movie moment.
Yeah.
But it was not.
Someone afterwards came up and said, hey, man, hey man, you guys suck.
Someone said that too.
To you.
Oh, I must have blocked it.
And then him and his buddy tried to fight me at Subway a little while later.
It was awesome.
God damn it.
It was cool, dude.
I mean, it's just the impression that I get.
What the hell?
So I'm reading a list here: 10 Ska songs to jam to in the late 90s.
I'll rate them all top 10.
I'll rate them 10 to 10.
I like No Effects.
No effects.
No effects had, like, remember the decline?
Yeah, yeah, the little short Bush, the Bush era.
Short, 18-minute-long song, my dude.
Yeah, but it's one song.
And you think that that's short?
Then they got Mill and Colin, Friends Till the End, but that's not a Ska band, right?
Ska band.
They're a great band.
And then Ruby Soho by Rancid, which also is not Ska.
And then it gets kind of weird.
Fat Lip by Sum41, isn't that a Scar?
You know, the classic Skapp.
No, not Scott.
311.
Not Ska.
No.
Oh, they do have Delinquent Song by Voodoo Glossal.
Great song.
Yeah, okay.
I think that's enough Ska talk.
Operation Ivy.
I don't know what that is.
Rancid.
So he's a punk rock.
I'll be a punk rock guy.
Flipper Zero over here.
We got two of us here, right?
But Flipper Zero would be second wave Sky.
Yeah, he got the island stuff.
Yeah.
He was listening to The Clash at a time.
Yeah.
Quieter with Crowder, who I think I accidentally call oftentimes quieter than Crowder.
No, do you really?
Yeah, friend of the show.
Quater.
That's funny.
A quick question here.
Will you be able to filter out all the questions for the QA from the emails from people looking for their mugs?
Oh, man.
Which is a great question.
Yeah, that is a really good question.
It's a lot.
We have a pretty big pilot for both.
I'll say this to you.
You're a good watchdog out there, and we really appreciate the work that you do.
Yeah.
And so if you happen to see anybody posting Byron's face on a mug, will you let us know?
Yeah, because we really hope somebody should we say this?
I think we should.
So, I mean, we did get an email from a louder with Crowder listener who was pretty ticked that they didn't get their mug.
Yeah, I mean, it's been a year because they had paid for it and they didn't get their mugs.
It's $120 mug.
So then I may have said, okay, we'll get you your mug.
What's your address?
And then I may have sent them a louder than Crowder mug with my face and a middle finger present.
I think we are going to start sending these to the, what do we call it?
The chowder heads?
I think it's chowder.
No, there's shrug clubbers, and then there's chowderheads who give on.
Yeah, shrug.club.
Yeah.
People who give $10 a month get a louder than Crowder mug to eat chowder out of.
Well, I like that.
Yeah, Any kind of soup out of this.
You could microwave that.
Yeah, that's it.
I actually need to make sure it's microwave safe.
I think it should.
You should at least do it one time.
Quiter with Crowder.
If you want to, I know you're kind of anonymous.
You don't need to give me your address.
Tweet it out.
Publicly tweet it.
That sounds like a great idea.
Taru T says, well, hello there.
Hi.
I think we answered this one.
How did you all meet?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We did that.
What's everyone's favorite ice cream or frozen treat?
Well, it should be a bit of a Krimsman.
Jared was a cream creamer?
Yeah, a long time.
Jesus.
I was a long time creamer.
A glathier.
I think that that's what it's called.
Is that right?
A glathier.
Glafier.
Yeah, I managed an ice cream store for like seven, eight years.
A long time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you're kind of picky with your cream.
I got some cool recipes.
And if you ever want to know how to make a great banana ice cream, I can let you in on that.
What's your favorite banana?
That's my favorite one that I've made because I just like, I fucking really figured it out.
It's in a mix of extract and real banana.
No, just all real banana.
Real banana cream.
The real thing is that you got to get the water out of the fruit or else the fruit makes the ice cream bad.
Yeah, icy icy, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, big icy.
So anyway, there's like a really cool way to do that.
And I figured it out and I was very proud of myself.
But otherwise, like frozen treat, dude, sometimes I am craving just a regular ass ice cream sandwich.
Vanilla.
Yeah, just a flavor.
Vanilla is a flavor, an exotic one.
It's an exotic bean.
It can be.
And then just the chocolate cardboard on the outside, you know what I'm saying?
Just the ice cream sandwich.
Like the ones that don't melt?
Well, they stick to your fingers and then you can grind them off your fingers off your teeth, you know?
Yeah, that's good.
Do you want me to go, Dennis?
Sure.
Well, I just, so you didn't, you were looking at your phone as if you were needing to Google.
Well, I was worried that that guy who hacked me, who said I was going to, the other said he's going to, I'm going to hear from him later.
I thought he was hacking me.
Oh.
I changed a bunch of passwords where he was going to hack.
Wait, what's going on?
I didn't.
I talked about it earlier.
My .us domain.
Oh, it's acting.
Don't worry about it.
No, I know that.
I didn't know there was a sound.
So my favorite ice cream ongoing situation.
Ben and Jerry's Miffaprisco.
What?
That's a callback to an earlier joke that I made on the show.
Do you remember when he made abortion ice cream?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, wow.
That was a long time.
Yeah.
That's a great one.
That's just my best joke I've ever made.
My best pun I've ever made.
Wow.
But no, my favorite is fish food.
Ben and Jerry's fish food's really good.
But also, I just, I don't dislike any ice cream.
Cinnamon buns is my Ben and Jerry's.
I like that one.
Okay.
Ice cream flavor, either bubble gum or black liquor-ish or peppermint.
God, I do like old people candy.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Wafer-free.
Yeah.
Those are the three Neckl wafer flavors, right?
And if it's like a pre-made thing, strawberry shortcake bars are really good.
Good humor, strawberry shortcake.
I'm going to update it.
In Japan, it's like a waffle with a piece of chocolate and ice cream in it.
Yeah, what are those called?
I don't know what it's called.
I'll look it up and find it.
The little fish?
No.
You're thinking of taiyaki.
Yeah.
But no, it's a different thing.
But I'll look it up while you're explaining more.
And my personal favorite, It's It.
It's It's It'sits are so good.
Yeah, from San Francisco.
Yes, It'sits are so good.
Great little ice cream cookie treat.
Yeah.
Great stuff.
Great question.
You know what I was saying?
Yeah.
The strawberry cheesecake blizzard.
It's a great blizzard.
Yeah.
It's blizzard ice cream, though.
That's a big debate, right?
It is.
It's 8%, dude.
Blizzard is an 8%.
What I used to do was a 14%, a super premium.
Sure, sure.
And then I think there's above that, it's like Jenny's is like ultra premium at like 16% or something like that.
We're talking about milk fat, right?
Milk fat.
Okay.
If we're doing blizzards, it's nerd's blizzard for me.
Yeah, I don't like hard stuff in my ice cream.
Sometimes I buy a thing of nerds and use my bullet blender to powder it and then mix it in with some soft syrup.
Green tea ice cream, too.
I love green tea ice cream.
Very good.
Very good.
Choco Monaka.
When are you getting the fuck out of here?
You're leaving the country soon, right?
That looks good as hell.
Dude, it's good as hell.
You don't even fucking know.
You know, bring some of those back on the flight?
Yeah, I'll bring some back for you.
Send it, though.
Dude, they're so good.
I'm going to eat one first thing I do in Atlanta.
Oh, speaking of green tea, tea, coffee, or something else?
Genius gourmet.
Dennis and I are sick fucks.
We still drink energy drinks all the time.
It's actually kind of like the grossest vice I have.
Really?
Let's say this.
Let's say this.
Byron and I have never had alcohol before.
Oh, shit.
We're just like Trump, dude.
I guess.
Yeah, teetotalers.
That's great.
Teetotalers, baby.
Well, yeah.
I woke up hungover this morning.
We'll go with a hungover.
Yeah, hungover, yeah.
My brain's doing this.
I only had one drink last night.
It was very sweet, though.
Was it strawberry wine?
It was very wise.
No, it was a shout out to the magpie in Great Falls.
That's my buddy's bar, and he gave me a, it's called the Rum-A-Go-Go.
And I don't drink rum.
Rum's too sweet.
But it was like pineapple and like papaya.
It was delicious, but too sweet.
It really took too strong out of me.
You know how Jared starts his day, though?
Yerba Mate.
Yerba Mate, of course.
He introduced me to Yerba Mate when I was at South Day Southwest.
Yeah, I'm a big yellow can guy.
It is, yeah.
I don't like tea.
It's a specific kind of tea, though.
I'm an energy drink guy.
But I'll do cold brew.
I'm a big cold brew.
Cold brew.
I don't drink hot drinks, I realized.
I was thinking about this question while I was on a run, and I was like, I think, because when I do have coffee, I drop a cube in it.
Uh-huh.
Ice cube.
I was curious.
I thought it was a Nido cube.
Warm up my Nido.
That way I don't have to hurt my hands.
So I work in coffee, and if I drink hot coffee like three days in a row, I feel it for like three weeks.
But cold brew takes all the acidity out.
That's what I'm feeling in there.
And so that's primarily why I would do it.
But I do like coffee.
I'm just not crazy about it all the time.
I drink a lot of water, a lot of soda.
I mean, not like a ton, but I drink it.
You do a lot of soda.
Mostly water.
It's mostly soda.
It's zero.
this guy carries around a two liter and does like big this is actually a funny story when I was pull her pop When I was in high school, I made a two-liter bottle of soda for my backpack with big straw.
Of course.
And the problem was, it was an engineering Marvel.
But the problem was, is when the bottle would get pressurized, it would just start dumping soda out.
Yeah, and you got to keep up with it.
It was part of my exploring tech class.
That was great.
Doing a bunch of mug.
Yeah, I think Mark Maron's TV show on IFC taught me he does four shots over ice.
And I remember there was a whole episode about it because the coffee place was like, oh, we don't do that.
We wouldn't do that because it'll shock the shots.
And he's like, I just want to get the coffee in my body as fast as possible.
And that is kind of when I took off.
I was like, I like that, Mark, actually.
Like, I think that's a.
As soon as it's in my stomach, the faster it's working.
Yeah, so that was kind of my coffee thing there.
But Jenny B has a question here.
Oh, nice.
Who is your dream Crowder guest?
And I thought this one was really interesting because I was like, there's two ways to look at it, like guest on Crowders or a guest on our show related to Crowder.
I don't know.
I've got exactly what I want.
What is it?
Sam Cedar.
Okay, get him on the show.
I want him on the show so bad.
I just want to see him and Steven talk because actually, I'll update that a little bit.
I want to see Steven Crowder on Surrounded.
Oh, my God.
With 20 Sam Cedars, but I don't know what that looks like.
And everybody liked that.
Yeah.
Could you imagine?
Could you imagine Steven on Surrounded?
Just people who are prepared to talk to him.
God, what would I don't think he would show up?
Oh, he would not.
No, his dad would call in sick for him.
God.
So, yeah, I guess the question, yeah, dream Crowder guest.
After watching Hunter Biden on Sean Ryan, I would love to see Hunter Biden talk with Steven Crowder.
I think that'd be a lot of fun.
Who am I thinking?
Because we saw Nick recently.
Nick and Steven was interesting.
Nick.
He's like, what other nicks are there?
That's kind of funny.
I don't know why I was thinking.
Well, because you're thinking about your guest.
Decap.
Oh, Nick DiPaulo.
DiPaulo.
Golly.
You see, my brain is like...
Well, you've been...
Listen, I know this is coming out a few weeks after Christmas, but you've been Christmased for like a week now.
At least.
At least.
I've been non-stop.
Yeah.
You've been doing family and friends.
I get it.
Dream Crowder guest would probably be like.
Who's someone that would agree really aggressively with him, but not play by the rules of having to obscure their beliefs, right?
Like it's kind of Nick, but Nick played easy with Steven.
So I'd love to see maybe.
Let's just get him Nicki Minaj.
Sure.
Sure.
Oh, God.
Yeah, it actually reminds me of a question we're going to answer early.
I feel like she's disabled her comment section on all social media.
10 million followers.
Yeah.
After she, Erica Kirk.
Yeah.
She's like, I better hang on to his ears.
Well, I think she, yeah, she had to bail so she could cool down the loss before bringing it back.
Yeah, it's like when they end trading early because there's too much of a.
Yeah, it's too bad right now, actually.
They're going to stop.
I think it answers the question.
Any other guests that you'd like to see?
I'm just thinking of racism.
I just want to see Steven not.
Steven is like the Jake Paul of boxing.
Like the moment that he fights someone who's actually not old, you know, like an actual good boxer, he loses.
Sure.
Yeah.
So I think that that's like Steven just he picks on people who are so much smaller than him.
Let's get him.
Let's get a Matan on there.
Matan.
Matan would do really well in there.
A version of Steven that we don't often see that we used to see maybe five years ago was the pop culture obsessed Steven.
Like when he had when he had Mark DuPlas on, remember?
He is really into 2000s era indie cinema.
I'd love to see like a director.
What if he got like Wes Anderson or something?
I'm trying to think of like who he would enjoy from that era.
So here's what I think.
I think he might have, he might still be trying that stuff.
But people are just saying no.
That's what I think.
Dude, you should have seen his Christmas episode.
We were watching a little bit of it on the TV behind me.
He has these interstitials where he has like, he asks people to say their favorite Christmas memories.
And like years in the past, he would have been able to get like the Hodge twins.
And I don't know who else, like a list of like Jim Brewer, church and Brewer.
Or like other Fox News people, like more.
And he did have, he had Megan Kelly and Tim Poole and Vince.
And that's like kind of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There was like, his circle has shrunk a little bit in the past couple of years.
And I think it's because he's kind of being actively rude to everyone that could potentially be an ally, you know, by calling out people like Tucker and Candace.
Piers.
He could probably have gotten some Piers bucks.
Probably.
He's still going on his show, but it's still just contentious, I guess.
Yeah, they got along a lot better the last time.
But yeah, it's not.
He doesn't.
Pierce does not like Steven Crowder.
Steven Crowder's a very unlikable guy.
He's a milk drinker.
Sit in the middle of the bar.
Yeah.
Cross-legged, drinking milk.
What if we got Quinton on the show?
Tarantino.
That'd be kind of cool.
On his show.
I want to see Jesse Live from Israel.
Sure.
All right.
Amazing from Tel Aviv.
Yeah, I guess I would just like to see more pop culture people.
I mean, like, we had Dean Kane, of course, but like you don't want to see that?
I just want to see Steven actually have a conversation with someone who isn't there to jerk him off.
I don't think.
I get Drake in there.
All right.
Drake's coming on.
Scott W. Wait, unless you had something else.
Oh, I thought you did a big inhale, but it could have been a...
Oh, no, I was...
This motherfucker!
Yeah.
I thought I didn't know.
I didn't know.
Scott W says, Steven seems to have a ton of resentment for not being bigger within the right-wing media landscape.
Charlie Cook, Turk.
Charlie Cook.
Charlie Kirk took his Change My Mind from him, and no one listens to him or cares about his We Were in Danger 2 stories.
He got mad about a low ball in quotes offer from Daily Wire as a good guy.
I could go on and on.
What do you think keeps him up at night being so mad or paranoid about?
I don't think it's actually political.
It's insecurity.
Of course.
This is, I mean, I think this is probably the most interesting part of our exploration of Steven Crowder.
It's like the reason why he's doing this.
And a moment that always stands out to me that I don't think we talk about enough is when we covered To Save a Life, the movie that he starred in as the big dog.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think at the end of that, and I don't know if it made the main episode or if we put it as a clip afterwards, the Q ⁇ A.
Yeah, the Q ⁇ A with the cast.
And this is like Steven's, I guess, political coming out, really, right?
Like he had the YouTube stuff.
I think it wasn't terribly popular.
And I mean, he was at campus board.
He went, he went, He went to work for himself during that interview.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like he took the reins kind of, and he was like, like everyone was answering questions like appropriately, but he was kind of being like, you know, be funny if I like said this.
You know, kind of like, I think he just went into business for himself during that thing.
It was just trying to like dogging y'all.
Yeah, and he thought he had this.
He thought he was in a position where he was.
I've done the work and you haven't.
And he was like making everyone uncomfortable, right?
But for some reason, he thought that he was cool.
Well, I think it's like on the dating shows or real world, there's like the classic douchebag who just like does weird things for attention.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's him.
Self-unaware.
Yeah.
But he's also scared all the time.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
Like there's this anxiety.
Because I think he realizes it's a risk to act like that, especially with like peers.
Well, and like I empathize.
Not Piers Morgan, but like his peers.
Yeah, yeah.
Like I empathize with the insecurity.
And like I get how you feel that way.
And he probably has some weird like, I can't imagine being a guy his age, going through a divorce, dealing with all that shit.
Sure.
but he's still socially stunted to begin with.
Yeah, I think that that's...
I think he's a child actor.
I think that might play a role.
The fact that he was probably made a hero in his life.
He was a popular kid growing up.
I mean, not popular.
He wasn't popular.
he was the kid who did the cool shit you know like i don't know if he ever really got to i don't think he got the benefits of that though because he was isolated with his political and religious beliefs i I don't think you're wrong, but if there was, oh, that kid's, that's the kid who does a voice to Archer.
Sure.
Like, there'd be that conversation at school.
There'd be a tension that he probably felt dopamine hit from that as a young kid.
But there's still this tension between there's that, where he could have embraced having success, but then there's this other kind of oppressive worldview that was put on him from Darren.
Exactly.
So he's fighting against this the whole time.
He's like, I want to listen to Dashboard Confessional and to kiss girls.
And boys.
And boys, maybe.
Yeah.
But then there's this, this, it's angel and devil shoulder, except it's double devil.
Like Darren, right?
Like what's kind of like, it's one of those things where like when you see somebody who's like, like I get this too, because like my mom doesn't listen to like any of the shit that we do here.
And like I'm also, I'm also very much like, don't, like, don't.
You know what I mean?
Because it's like, I'm able to be like more candid here than I am probably with.
You don't do Flipper Zero with your mom?
She doesn't get it.
She doesn't think that I'm as funny.
You should get her a Flipper Zero for Christmas.
I actually tried to.
I was like, look, you need to hop.
You can open up.
I know these guys are getting into hacking.
And they're all British.
You'll love them.
But it's just sort of this, like, you don't, you know, it's like you get raised.
Like, I was like raised in a church, right?
And I have sort of this like, like, I don't want to like be a disappointment to my parents sort of thing.
You know what I mean?
It's like, it's just like a looming thing, but like also at the same time, I've like figured out how to be on my own accord, do the like live with, you know, some sort of, how do you say, like in some, in some way, devil may care, but also like intentionally like trying not to be a bad person so I don't disappoint the people in my life.
You know, and so I think that that's like, I think that that's like a big pressure that anyone feels, but like, especially when maybe Steven was like punished for trying to just like figure out who he was and like why he was trying to do those things anyway, like why he's culture obsessed, why he, why he was music obsessed, why he was like trying to wear like a bandana in his pocket because it was the fashion of the time.
Like probably like just wanting to go like spend some cash and like hot topic, but then your dad calling you the F-slur or something.
You know what I mean?
And like, and maybe it wasn't that harsh, but like maybe I think it was.
It kind of seems like it was.
And then, but, and even if it wasn't, like, the intention of just being like, no son of mine, like type of shit.
There's a dissonance, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And it's like, and, and that's, I think, also why, like, Steven's all, he's always trying to appeal to like his dad as an audience and like guys like his dad, why he's making references to like, like, Humphrey Bogart or whoever we were talking about the other week that are just, you know what I mean?
Like, just this like 1930s actor.
And it's like you, you grew up a certain way and you have this like breadth of knowledge, but like you've made that knowledge a prison for yourself to live in so that you can keep meeting the expectations of your dad who doesn't think you meet his expectations.
And that's like every father, right?
Like to it to a certain degree, yeah, but like this is this is amplified because it's not only his career, but it's also it's like a popularity-based career, right?
Like this is entertainment.
There's numbers attached.
And his dad's attached to those numbers.
And it's, well, it's also straight up measurable.
Yeah.
I can't imagine my career being like on a chart.
Well, it kind of is.
I just so you know, I mean, drug club's blowing up, by the way.
Nice, dude.
Yeah.
Welcome in.
Thank you so much.
I bought a motorhome.
Wow.
Cool, dude.
I don't know why.
I don't need that.
Are we doing a tour?
I don't.
Yeah, we're doing a live tour.
This is the announcement.
We're doing home.
Hell yeah.
Let's go.
And I think that all of that.
I mean, if Steven, Stephen, if you're listening, like, I hope you understand that we're men of the same age and like we all 19.
And we all kind of like empathetically understand like what it's like to grow up like this.
Oh, totally.
And I really hope that like, and I'll say that I'm, I'm, I'm thankful that I feel comfortable enough that my self-esteem isn't driving me as much as it used to be.
Sure.
Yeah.
And I hope, I hope that in 2026, after I come back from the Santa Meditation Retreat, I come back to a different Steven, right?
And he'll be there.
Oh, yeah.
What if, what if you both are doing something?
Oh, fuck.
It is kind of in the neighborhood.
Yeah, you never know.
Oh, shit.
It's me and fucking Gerald.
And Feierstein.
Big butt, you get the butt.
Big butt, you do.
All right.
Tyrone A says, it seems Crowder is not as relevant this Trump term.
Do you think he'll just these are the best?
Not relevant this Trump turn.
Do you think he'll just go all out white nationalist?
And how many people do you think actually watch him?
He is so boring and unfunny.
Oh, man.
So two questions.
Classic voodoo doll life and star.
Do you think he'll go all out white nationalist?
He kind of has.
I think he has.
Yeah, he's recently said the N-word several times.
He's testing the waters.
What do you think?
I think he's going to get crazier.
I mean, I was watching, who is the stand-up comedian that moved to Idaho?
What was his name?
What's that band?
I know, I can't remember that guy's name.
I don't remember in Idaho, Idaho.
He dated Christina Ricci for a while.
He co-hosted InfoWars, co-hosted, hosted like the last hour.
No, Aimon Bundy.
No.
He's gotten into the mothership.
Owen Benjamin.
Owen Benjamin.
I was halfway.
You were, yeah.
I don't think he hasn't gone full Owen Benjamin quite yet.
Like, he's not like just a straight-up white supremacist.
I mean, he is.
Yeah.
And he says white supremacist things all the time.
Even calls himself a white nationalist or a nationalist.
Does he say white nationalist?
Or does he say Christian nationalist?
I don't know.
I think he's going to dig in his heels hard.
That's why I think it's going to happen.
He's just when you have a position like that that's really like an indefensible position.
Yeah.
Once you start down the path of trying to hang on to it, it's hard to be like, oh shit, I realized that was wrong.
Well, you lose relevance, right?
Like if you if you backtrack on your bigoted beliefs.
So I think we're going to see more wild people.
My old show used to be huge.
Yeah.
Back when I used to say the slurs.
No.
And then I went woke and I went broke.
Of course.
And look at me now.
Pockets inside out.
Going, oh my gosh coming out.
Of course.
I don't know.
Jerry, what do you think?
Full-blown white nationalist?
Yeah, I mean, like you said, he's already testing the water for it.
He's been saying the N-word publicly, recording his 4G Auto Blow, same.
These guys are just trying it right now.
And I think they're just trying to be the first guys to do it.
But you know, what are they?
What's the saying?
Like, first few through the door get bloodied.
And the second, you know, second wave is the ones that take it.
So it's like Forge and Steven aren't going to be the guys just because they're saying the N-word.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's going to be the next guy who says the N-word louder than they do.
And who that's going to be, maybe Fuentes, maybe somebody else.
Fuentes said it a long time ago.
Yeah.
But he says it differently.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm just hearing.
Yeah, buddy.
Classic.
Can't wait for that.
That episode's great, by the way.
Came out last week, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think that he's going to continue to try to ride every single wave that he can to get any sort of popularity or in the good graces of the people that he's trying to speak for, right?
Yeah.
One.
There's a full prediction question coming up later.
Okay.
One thing I think that we should really consider is the success of Foundation.
I think that's going to be a big thing.
Oh, sorry.
I thought you were talking about a white supremacist group.
No, no, no.
Like the foundation sounds exactly like something like that.
But no, it's his supplement.
Yeah, yeah.
You never know, dude.
The foundation.
Yeah, what's going to really kick?
Like the mugs, the mugs have gone to the wayside, so we're picking up the mantle there.
Fake oil is going to drive it.
Yeah, now the sawdust supplement is going to be.
My cumin pill.
All right.
Okay.
Yeah, dude.
For cumin.
Yeah.
Dan, just to finish, that's he's going to do whatever it takes to like try to stay relevant, I think.
Yeah, I think so.
How many people actually.
Oh, sorry.
I don't know.
If it's white nationalism, sure.
And if it's the next grotesque thing, he'll probably do that too.
He's, you know, he's not above that.
Yeah.
How many people actually watch him?
He is so boring and unfunny.
I think a lot, unfortunately.
So good.
So good to hear.
I agree fully.
He is boring and unfunny.
I can't imagine turning him on and taking him seriously.
Yeah.
And I've been listening to a lot of right-wing radio because my car broke.
The car play broke on it.
The car play broke, so I've been listening to AM radio and listening to like Dana Law, Dana Lash, and Mike Gallagher.
I know, but I called them a Mike Gallagher.
How'd that go?
I didn't get through to him, but they were like, I call that and I go, hey, I just want to say that I think immigrants are good.
They go, hold on, he's going to love this.
And then he never came back.
But I heard him.
But anyways, he thinks immigrants are what?
But the demeanor is so over the top and extreme that I can't imagine anyone listening and going, oh, I get it.
But I bet he has millions.
I was going to say, I haven't looked at his numbers lately.
Unfortunately, by the way, guys, I know that, and this is going to be hard to hear.
I know that you heard that YouTube was dead and that Rumble did it.
They have returned to YouTube.
Oh, fuck.
So YouTube is not dead.
Of course not.
The videos.
Because the piss is revitalizing.
Of course, yes.
You got a pee on it.
Yeah.
It's just like looking at jellyfish.
Okay.
Sorry, guys.
I'm trying.
But yeah, on YouTube, their videos are getting about 350,000 views.
That's not that many.
And that's a lot, but it's not.
On Rumble.
Yeah, of course.
You've got to go to wokeyoutube.com, of course, everybody.
You'll see the real numbers there.
Check it out for yourself.
Tell your friends.
He is getting about 1.4 million, about 1 million views.
How many subscribers does he have on YouTube?
Rumble, pardon me.
Rumble's his bots.
Yeah, Rumble isn't real.
He's got 5.82 million subscribers on YouTube.
Wow.
And he's getting 100,000, 200,000, 300,000 K views.
Okay.
Clearly getting fucked by YouTube.
Yeah, I'm fucking him over, dude.
He's getting 300 at Rumble and he's getting 300 here, and then he's getting 300 on listening.
I mean, he's probably getting over like a million a pod.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Per app.
I think that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
So there's a lot of dumb people in the world.
I was hoping things would be trending down a little bit steeper.
Yeah.
Sometimes they even.
The fact that they find us blows my mind.
Pretty cool.
Yeah.
Of course.
If anyone has any other clues out there about how that's happening, just throw them out.
I think they're just guessing.
They're like, I don't know.
Ladder than Crowder.
Ladder than Crowder?
At Gmail.
Let's try Gmail.
Put Gmail.
Everyone uses Gmail.
First and last name.
Well, they probably send it to Yahoo as well.
Did they give you the address?
Excuse me?
Did they give you the address?
Yeah.
They gave me their home app.
They emailed somebody who they believe is somebody.
Yeah, they thought they thought I was Gerald.
And they.
Wow, okay.
Cool.
Folks, don't do that.
Well, look.
I was going to say to our listeners, don't do that.
I mean, I told you last, like, two, two, three weeks ago.
Because it's chaotic and it's funny.
Someone sent me that dancing Ben Franklin video, remember?
Yeah.
Another listener sent me a video of them filming their screen.
Yeah, we also get tons of PR firms.
Oh, so many people.
Yeah, we could book.
We could book people out of the video.
They're just saying we should book these people.
I agree.
I mean, like, fire your PR people.
We're just getting offers and taking them.
Yeah.
Are you going to pay us?
We're getting guests who have been on Fox News, OAN, news.
Which rich, and they're talking to us.
Like, that's who they deserve to be talking to.
Yeah, that is true.
Crazy.
Yeah, trick them.
All right.
It's barely a trick.
They reached out.
It is barely a trick.
Hey, can I come inside?
Yeah.
Sure.
Sure.
Oh, shit.
You're not so-and-so?
No, I'm cooler.
Y'all remember.
Y'all remember Kitzo?
Kitzo.
Kitzo Fresh.
This is a big question, and it's not crowder-related to my knowledge here.
Oh.
Maybe a little bit.
Okay.
It's a, well, I'll just read it.
Okay, I got you.
This was after a request for a question.
I've got this fun conspiracy theory I've been cooking up for a while.
Let me know what y'all think.
Serve me up.
I'm here.
Thesis.
Hi, everyone.
Inspiring.
Inspiring.
Broadcasting live from a Mexican restaurant in Occupy, Texas, because that is the place that I'm currently occupying.
Just for a minute.
Just for a second.
And yeah, if you're enjoying this AUA, ask us anything.
Next week, you are going to continue having a good time because this is just part one of two.
What is the conspiracy theory that Kitso is proposing?
Tune in next week to find out.
But yeah, until then, thanks for listening.
We'll talk soon.
Take care.
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