In the words of Dennis, "this was a lot"... The LwC gang is getting increasingly comfortable inside of this conservative, "madndate", so they're spreading the hate like a bigoted Johnny Appleseed. They've once again...gone global. Like what we're doing? Want MORE for FREE? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy
Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast, Louder with Crowder.
My name is Byron, and Dennis was on assignment this week.
I sure was on assignment.
And by assignment, I mean he assigned himself to be gambling in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Hell yeah.
Now he smells like Circus Circus prime rib.
Nice.
I don't know if they had any prime rib there, but I did slam an Einstein bagel.
So there's butter and sugar.
That's my general flavor right now.
At Circus Circus, do you think that they have...
Clown Loaf?
I don't know what Clown Loaf is.
What is that?
Can you guys look it up real quick?
I don't know.
And while we do that, I would like to say, our Lone Star brother in Occupied Texas, the only thing he's betting on is how late I'll be with this script.
It's Jared.
I'm just trying to say, how many Clown Loafs can you fit underneath your arms?
Whoa!
Clown Loaf is sick!
It's a baloney style.
How do they do that?
Magic!
I'm going on a clown loaf raw milk diet.
Look it up, folks.
Think about how many you could carry of those under your arms and then blue sky that at us.
Skeet that at us?
Is that what Blue Skeet?
Following the Epstein files, phase one being released to a handful of conservative influencers, not Steven, in three-inch, three-ring binders.
So cool that it made him jealous enough that he had to actually make his staff create a replica.
He made a binder?
Yes, he did.
He made a replica binder.
Not too difficult, because we're all...
We clearly read the printout.
Did he open up the binders and put it around his desk to stop the cheaters from looking?
That's fun.
As we mentioned last week, this was clearly a publicity stunt that gave us no new information.
Yeah.
And although the episode we're covering of Louder with Crowder today, which is March 4th, 2025, what are Pam Bondi's real motivations and what it means for the Epstein files?
We're not really going to be talking about this.
It all happens in the last 10 minutes of the episode and can be summarized in about a minute, maybe in the last minute of our show, but certainly not before we thank some folks who are supporting us over at shrug.com.
Hello, Shrug.
Pardon me, Shrug.com.
Hello, Shrug Nation.
You've entered the Shrug situation.
Sorry.
It was a close call.
We can't be sending folks to band camp anymore.
It's no longer Band Camp Friday.
Do you think Shrug's going to get back together because we've sent too many people there?
That would be a wonderful thing.
Our hits are off.
We've got to capitalize on this and get back together now.
Oh, man.
I tell you what.
Oh, man!
I tell you what.
Shrug.club, that's where you can, you know, check out all kinds of bonus content, too hot for the RSS feed, including an episode of Double Salutes that Dennis wasn't there for.
I was not there.
I wish I was there for it because I wanted to see Jared's reaction to our amazing new theme song.
Oh, I'll tell you what.
Actually, it is kind of interesting.
You can take a peek.
Yeah, we dropped a VOD of this latest episode there.
Jaren and I caught up with our favorite conservative musicians, and we set the lineup for a fictional festival.
Oh, nice.
What's the name of it?
Oh, no, we didn't come up with that.
We did.
I think we did.
No, we definitely did.
Yeah, it was just America Fest or something.
Yeah.
No, we had one.
America Fest got floated a couple times.
I think so, yeah.
But check it out.
I would like to thank some folks who are financially supporting us over at Shrug.club.
Molly C. Molly!
Molly C. Thank you!
Thanks, Molly!
You know, I gotta say, Molly, thank you so kindly.
You piece of shit!
Jeez, Steven!
And C-Egg, thank you so much.
C-Egg?
Those were expensive.
Excuse me?
That's such, like, so nice of you, C.A., and I want to say thank you.
What a piece of shit.
Wait a second.
Whoa!
Whoa!
It was Dan Friesen from Knowledge Fight.
Oh, nice.
What a piece of shit.
He's a little more like a piece-a.
What a piece of shit.
And Stephen's a piece of.
Piece of shit.
That one's my favorite.
But, yeah, you can support this little program for us if you think we're doing a good job at shrug.club.
Yeah, definitely.
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Is it rock?
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Join Shrug Nation, be a Shrug Clubber, and also be a...
Piece of shit today.
So last week we started the episode out by filling out a very brief email form that approximately Stephen sent over.
Approximately Stephen?
Yes, he's got the tilde.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Asking what three of four new products...
Free drug candy three times.
Well...
What did they decide?
Sounds like the results are in.
Vitamins are an essential part of living a full and healthy life.
Failing to get the necessary amounts of specific vitamins can cause deficiency states that are unhealthy and even dangerous.
And let's be honest, people who don't take vitamins are probably a little gay.
Huh.
What was that?
It was a swerve.
K-Vitamin, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
I would say that took a turn, but I've been doing this for over a year now.
Certainly this stock footage-filled parody commercial preparing listeners for some sort of supplements in the Crowder shop, it has to be more than one note, right?
Yes.
Vitamins are essential for virtually all chemical processes within the body that create and use energy, such as digestion of food and nutrients, elimination of waste, growth and development, and regulation of...
Do they only do one joke per, like, paragraph?
It's kind of like one joke per episode.
Yeah, that's true.
It's sort of this one.
They're kind of fooling...
Around with the rumble format, it seems.
Ripping off the advertisers that usually play before their shows.
Someone's like, can I skip this one?
No, you can't.
You gotta wait a minute.
You gotta watch this guy just talk from an angle that goes up his nose about this goo that fixes his knee when he's sleeping.
And then, of course...
I just gotta plug in three nights a week and my knees are healing.
It shows an infographic.
It's like his knees, but they're like glowing.
There's a grid behind it.
A clear gel goes...
Okay.
We're comedian journalists.
To his mouth.
We're all aware of, I mean, first of all, we're all aware of first and second hand sources.
But also, the comedy rule of threes says this is inevitable, so let's get another way.
Okay.
Vitamins work together with proteins that regulate biochemical processes or enzymes, substances that assist proteins known as cofactors, and other substances necessary for good health.
And, as an added bonus, no one will doubt your sexuality again.
Vitamins.
Don't make them wonder.
So it was three gay jokes.
Yeah.
And then real information about vitamins.
About how cool vitamins are.
I mean, for the most part, we get the vitamins we need from the food we eat.
However...
I don't.
I do have some...
No vitamins.
Vitamins to sell you.
Are they featuring?
Do they look like peach rings?
Gummy blue shark vitamins.
I was going to say, wait a second.
They make the gummy vitamins, but they don't make them fun shapes because we all know what happens when I get a big bottle of gummy vitamins.
I eat them all and I get diarrhea.
You know, Byron and I did have some gummies before this.
They weren't vitamins, but they were made by Foreign Candy Company, so the prices are going to go up.
We can't afford those after this show.
We're no longer getting cool chips from the gas station.
It's a Tuesday, and we start...
With a sip.
Glad to be with you.
It's been a little bit of a nutty morning here.
We had a power outage because of storm warnings, tornadoes, and actually one of the buildings where our studio is, the roof and second floor was torn off.
Yeah, building broke.
Yeah.
So the building is injured.
Yeah, building broke.
Building broke.
It broke.
The building is sick this week.
Which is kind of fun.
They are, I guess, off the hook, right?
Yeah, I guess.
Having a nutty time.
Do you think that they're off their vitamins?
Do you think if we harass Stephen enough into taking vitamins?
Because I've never seen him take a vitamin.
Well, we haven't seen him do a lot of things.
I know, but they just said that not taking vitamins makes you gay.
Yeah.
Not taking vitamins, which is kind of an interesting perspective.
Maybe the roof didn't take the vitamins.
So, has he never proved that he's taking vitamins on air before?
I think you should start taking vitamins on air.
You should, yeah.
We should start taking vitamins on damn air.
What the hell?
I mean, we've seen...
I got some Tylenol here at least.
Why don't you pop one?
That's a vitamin.
Alex Jones has always taken his supplements on his show.
Is he?
Yeah.
Wow.
You didn't...
I mean, he takes super male vitality all the time.
What does that do for him?
I don't know.
He says, I'm ready.
I'll come on you first.
So I... Whoa!
How'd you set me up for that?
It is mostly iodine, I guess.
Josh is still getting used to this whole Texas storm season, tornado warning stuff.
Is it even storm season, or is this an anomaly?
It doesn't seem like it's storm season.
Kind of like storming down here.
But, you know, it's not storming.
It's his getting shows in Austin, apparently.
Oh, yeah.
He's having trouble booking.
Is he really?
Yeah, it's not good.
He did a call-out on his Instagram stories.
Hire me call-out?
He said the cool kids don't want him.
Saying, like, if you know a guy to help me book.
Whoa.
The mother's...
Well, I had my family go to the attic.
Did you?
Yeah, I'm new to tornadoes.
Well, we'll be discussing Germany today, speaking of attics.
So we have a lot to discuss, including Anne Frank.
Germany has effectively jailed and been persecuting people for memes, for jokes.
For unpopular opinions.
For impermissible opinions.
Germany?
I know.
You're surprised.
Just as surprised as I was.
It's kind of like a common theme on his show where he talks about going back into the closet.
Just interesting.
Steven is always safe from a tornado.
Okay.
Speaking of addicts, though, the topic he's covering has nothing to do with Anne Frank.
He's just edgy.
Of course.
Yeah, you have to talk about, you know...
Make fun of a Jew from the past to be on his show or something.
A Jew that inspired many people to have empathy towards the Jewish people and make sure that atrocities like what happened during World War II never happen again.
Not at least for like 60, 70 years.
Well, the time's almost up according to Stephen, but a different kind of time's up.
Okay.
Speaking of alliances, there are also foes.
TikTok.
There's some grifts going on on TikTok, and that's kind of the theme of today.
Grifters.
Funny.
That's the theme of our show every week.
Every week?
That's crazy.
We know this.
Yeah, you know, I'm really looking forward to the freeze-dried candy coming out.
I actually am.
I will...
Subscribe if there's a subscription.
Yeah, let's get a subscription box.
A subscription box.
Why'd you say it like that?
Also, for him to just now discover that TikTok is fairly compromised, not by the CCP, but by a 50-50 split of algorithmic TikTok shop ads and videos of subway surfers with second date update audio.
Did he finally reach the end of the road in terms of blue-haired feminist videos that he intends to do?
To make fun of at the beginning of each show?
I have no idea.
Well, we know for certain that a big uptick in Meat Boys.
Big uptick.
Which you can...
Big.
Take a peek at Shrug.club.
There's Meat Boys segments there.
It's very good, too.
Maybe the blue hairs are doing kind of the cicada thing, you know, underground for 17 years.
17 years old.
Screaming again.
And then, of course, there's...
Pam Bondi.
No, she didn't give me this binder.
But we're going to be talking about Epstein today.
Let me ask you this.
A lot of questions, but expect anything to come from these Epstein files.
It's obviously been bungled.
The rollout was terrible.
And I think it's important for us to look at these appointments, these choices, and say, okay, who is actually trying to do a job they were assigned to do versus seeking the limelight?
And both are important.
Corny binder, buddy.
And would it have been bungled if you were involved?
Or would you still be playing interference for everyone?
Just wait until he opens that thing.
The Epstein files were worse than the release of No Man's Sky.
It's a bad joke.
It's a video game joke.
It is a video game joke.
Yeah, I didn't get it.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
It came out and it was completely under-delivered.
Overhyped, underdelivered, yeah.
Oh.
But now it's good.
Once phase two of the Epstein files comes out.
Yeah, once we get phase two, maybe like once it's crowdsourced a little bit.
Change a couple names.
They Michael Scorn it a little bit.
Yeah, exactly.
Dwigged.
Master Scorn.
Also, seeking the limelight is important when you're an attorney general?
It totally is, dude.
Or an FBI director.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The limelight's the fourth branch of government.
Excuse me?
Huh?
Politics is downstream from culture.
What?
It's part of pop culture.
You have to be on Jesse Waters' show.
Totally, yeah, yeah, yeah.
As much as possible.
And the interesting thing, I don't know if we bring this up later, Kash Patel spends his time not on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, but he has been on numerous QAnon podcasts.
That's a good spot for him.
Like 50, but...
That rules.
Yeah, it's really cool.
That's a big number.
He's trying to get the storm started.
That's a different kind of limelight.
Bringing a lot of, like, relevance.
To the scene, and that gives them maybe ad bucks?
Do they get the goo sponsorship?
The knee goo sponsorship?
I don't know.
What's the name of the knee goo, dude?
I mean, we gotta come up with something good.
Miracle Knee.
Miracle Knee.
I think that's kind of it.
Yeah, you kind of don't need anything else.
Miracle Knee is good, yeah.
I already spilt that Josh is here at this point.
How often can we expect a different third chair?
Once a month?
Like, it seems like it's just Josh.
I can't remember the last time we had a different person.
Nick DePaulo not too long ago, but I'd love to see the contract at this point.
I know Dave didn't love his wouldn't let him leave and have more time on the road to do stand-up comedy.
Like, he, I mean, he's a comedian, so he would...
Yeah, he wants to go make money.
As much as he's having trouble booking, but...
Who's having...
Is Dave having trouble booking?
No, Dave's doing just fine.
Stephen is having trouble.
Nope, nope, nope, Josh.
Dave can actually book Austin.
What do you think of that?
Have you been?
Yeah, he...
No, but he was here.
With Alex.
Time.
Yeah.
Second chair.
That's where Josh is sitting because Captain Morgan is missing.
There is no Captain Morgan today.
No, it's just the two of us.
Hey.
Yeah, I'm not here.
No.
Well, you're off.
Also, these guys are here, too.
Yeah, everyone else is here.
But Captain Morgan is not here.
He was sick, but he shouldn't have told us he was sick because he could have used the tornado as an excuse.
He laid it on and said, I'm going to a hotel.
I'm so sick.
I have to go to a hotel.
Yes, to keep my family from getting sick.
Really?
That means he was sent to a hotel.
Let's be honest.
No one chooses the airport Super 8. I don't know if you heard that.
Tim did say, what, does he have AIDS? Which is kind of a classic Crowder bit.
He went to a hotel to prevent his family getting sick?
What is going on?
You asked, I'll tell you.
He swallowed too much of that silicone stuff from the fleshlight insert.
Okay.
Come on, guys.
Getting his mouth measured.
We've been...
Far too blue so far this episode.
Do you think that he swallowed the knee goop instead of putting it on his knee?
How small is...
Miracle knee.
Knee goop isn't a...
That is how it is administered.
Oh, you don't inject the knee goop?
You swallow it and it goes to the knee.
Okay.
It finds the knee.
It makes your knee glow.
It has knee searching technology.
Yeah, you gotta kind of wear some magnets or something, maybe.
Gross.
Okay.
How small is his house that he can't just, like, stay in his room?
I would never go to a hotel if I was sick.
Got too much wine in there.
Nowhere to sit down.
Too many boxes of Bonvino.
Going down at this point.
They don't even have a cellar.
They just put it in their bedrooms now.
Yeah, the only time that I've heard of someone staying in a hotel and they're sick is, like, COVID. Prostitutes also.
Even them.
Clearly, he doesn't have COVID. He's going through a divorce.
I mean, maybe.
I don't know.
Let's start with this.
Let's start with this.
Easter is coming up.
420, baby.
So I know what you're thinking.
Eggs.
Thinking of, well, yeah, eggs or rabbits.
I don't really get the synergy.
But of course, the resurrection of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Or, I know some of you are thinking, trans candles?
People often ask us, do you make trans candles?
No one asks you that.
And our answer is simple.
Pause.
Rewind that a couple of frames there, Toolman.
When she acts as a question?
So what's this?
Oh, that's Casey Anthony.
We had a power outage today.
Go back.
That's racist, Josh.
Yes.
Don't do that.
Also, weird to have Casey Anthony on screen, Tim, especially since I don't think she comes up in this episode at all.
Not at all.
Just a quick little brief.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, if ModClub was still around, though, he might try to offer it, don't you think?
Potentially lusting after Casey Anthony after she came out as a legal advocate.
No, I mean get her...
Get her on the show.
Get her her own show.
She should at least have a Rumble page, right?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
She should probably come in.
She should do some of these episodes like Josh is doing on Rumble.
She just does kind of the Casey Anthony hour where she talks, I guess, advocacy.
Sure.
Youth advocacy.
She was saying that she wants to get justice for her daughter.
Went to a bar in Fort Lauderdale that had a seat open at the end of the bar.
Just standing?
Yeah.
Very strange.
However, though, Stephen's initial question is immediately answered by the candle maker Chandler, if you didn't know.
Chandler?
It's a name for a candle maker.
Chandler?
A Chandler.
Really?
Yeah, I didn't know that.
That's cool.
Is it not Candler?
Is it pronounced Chandler?
Chandler, yeah.
Wow.
I thought I caught myself, too.
I was like, wait a second.
Candler makes sense.
Yeah, Chandler.
Chandler, but it's also, I mean, obviously the etymology chandelier.
Oh, yeah.
I know that from Beauty and the Beast.
We got that little guy with the flame fingers.
Got the flame hand, yeah.
Lumiere, right?
Yes, that's the guy.
Great, sounds right.
The answer to Stephen's question, though, who says there is no one way to be trans, is what she says over top of him talking over her.
There's no one way to have a trans body.
These candles are gender neutral, which is a concept that Stephen can't wrap his head around, of course.
Yes, of course.
I mean, if you can't.
Wrap your head around gender neutral in general.
You certainly wouldn't believe that there's a candle in that style.
Do you think that when Stephen has a woman over that he ignites lights a black ice candle?
A black ice candle?
Like a little tree black ice scented?
Oh, yeah.
Kind of cool, actually.
I like that.
He's got, like, a car bed.
Is this an Axe body spray candle?
He definitely has a race car bed.
A needlessly gendered candle.
And he definitely still goes double pits to Chesty before a date.
What's that?
That's an ass candle?
That is Barney's ass.
That's what he's going to Yankee Doodle.
It's ass candle?
Yeah, it smells like farts.
Yes.
And then the next one, keep going.
Well, the good news is she turns it around.
It's simple.
There's no one way to be trans.
The fupa cheese.
No one way to have a trans body.
Our candles have always been and will always be gender neutral.
Pause.
You know, I will say this, though.
If you find a niche and you fill it, good on you.
You're a sound business person.
And there was an outcry.
Four candles that were, in fact, gender neutral.
I know it kept me up at night.
Let's continue.
Does he think that there's not, like, gendered candles?
That was the thing that really caught me off guard, too.
It's like, clearly, there are targeted candles.
There's so much stuff in the world that's needlessly gendered.
Like, scissors, razors.
And then, of course, there's the price difference in those things.
But there are scents that are more attractive to typically masculine people.
And that would be a...
Male candle, I guess.
I guess, yeah, I don't know.
A boy candle?
A blue candle?
Exactly, boy candles are blue candles.
Black ice or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Why is he making fun of this person?
Well, it's clearly keeping him up at night.
Like, I don't know why he cares.
He scrolled through TikTok and he said, This pisses me off.
I gotta talk about this tomorrow.
Yeah.
I don't get the candle thing.
I don't understand.
Yeah, you don't have to.
You don't have to understand.
The Loudmouth Crowder folks riff over top of this woman, Jodi Ann Morgan, who's a queer black woman living in Wisconsin with her wife, their tortoise polka dot Tardis Morgan, and their black rescue cat Stripes Delique.
Morgan.
Sick.
She's talking about her candles.
I should mention that they are available at ctoanco.com.
C-T-O-A-N? Yeah, I believe that that must be an acronym for something, but I urge you to go check that out.
Instead of listening to them spew shitty jokes about bodies and gender, I thought that I'd share some words from Jody Ann's site about her company.
While I never considered myself particularly creative, when I started making candles in my kitchen, I found a joy I wasn't expecting.
C-T-O-A-N Co.
Do you figure that out?
Is a culmination of the kitchen experimenting.
Today, the candles I make are little works of art that I infuse with that joy, heart, and a whole lot of love.
My body candles celebrate the human form in all its glory.
Designed from a completely gender-neutral perspective, there are no female or male candles here, just candles celebrating the human form.
If one resonates with you, it's the perfect fit, no matter the gender it might have been assigned.
When I'm not making candles, I love to cook, especially if it's a grill or smoker that's involved.
Which is something that I guess both she and Stephen are passionate about.
Do you think that her and Stephen will connect over a brisket?
Some common ground.
Here's what I think Stephen needs to do.
Stephen needs to have her on and just have some burnt ends.
I ate brisket earlier, dude.
Not candle ends.
You know what Jodianne did before being a candle maker?
No.
She was a security guard for almost a decade.
Hell yeah.
Another thing that Stephen...
Claims to respect...
He loves security.
He needs it.
He should modify a survey and say, hey, do you want vitamins, free-dread candy, or gendered candles?
They should have put that up.
They should have put gendered candles on there.
From a comedian perspective, especially of his bench, that would have been actually a good move.
Mailing list apparently is not funny.
No.
And neither is the show.
I couldn't figure out what CTOAN means.
CTOANco.com.
Check it out.
Man, if Candles of Bodies is your thing, cool.
If not, sure.
Not everything has to be for you, Stephen.
Totally.
Just stop caring about stuff.
I don't like curry.
What?
I hate curry.
Green?
Disgust.
All curry.
Yellow?
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
But I'll never worry about anyone eating curry ever.
Because I don't care what they do.
Except your wife when she's kissing you, right?
I mean, it's stinky.
So we selfishly skipped over Stephen's feelings following the February 28th Oval Office meeting between Zelensky, Marco Rubio, J.D. Vance, and future former President Donald Trump.
I've been saying it now.
It makes me feel a little better.
I do like that.
I do like that.
Hey, we thanked Stephen.
Not yet.
Okay.
Maybe later.
Yeah.
Where Trump expressed that Zelensky shouldn't tell him what we're going to feel, and J.D. Vance said, have you?
He said thank you once, even though there's been at least 33 documented instances of him doing so.
Did you see that afterwards Zelensky went on X and was thanking all these countries that helped him?
He had like 30-some messages being like, thank you for your support, thank you for your support.
God, it's so good.
That was probably one of the most frustrating moments of my whole life, seeing that.
Some people were like, yeah, they were tough on him.
They were tough on a crook.
Treating him the way he deserves to have been treated.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, I've covered enough Crowder to know that they would have just bullied a screen by loudly talking over any actual content or context.
I wasn't interested in doing that.
Jared, I don't know if you were.
No, I mean...
However, here we are.
So, this is something else that's happening.
The fallout from Zelensky's blatant disrespect, you know, some would say acting like an ungrateful pissant, it has now reached a crescendo.
It's resulted in President Trump causing all aid to Ukraine.
Huh.
That sounds familiar, almost as if you already called that.
Come let Zotar tell you more.
I'm gonna let the next pitch ball right past the flagpole.
We're gonna win the game, I guarantee.
If I were Donald Trump after that little stunt, I'd go, "Oh, it's no longer 50/50, it's now 60/40, and maybe we'll turn it down to 55, if you put some adults in charge." No more dollars.
None.
None whatsoever.
Come let Zoltar tell you more.
I'm glad that people are, you know, whether they're listening or at least we're in alignment with views.
Hey, great.
Yep.
Pause the aid.
Let's see how tough Zelensky is.
It's not about wanting any more people to die.
It's about wanting fewer people to die.
Ending this war.
Or to stop.
But we have to stop with a delusion.
The intro and outro of that piece was longer than the entirety of the piece that he was playing.
Yeah, I'm just staring at my watch being like, oh good, we've successfully burnt 1 60th of our show.
Great.
Successful.
So much.
For that softball, he just threw himself.
First of all, Stephen is a political fortune teller.
He's a genius.
Genius, dude.
We do know this.
He's also the kind of guy who should understand fights and bully behavior.
Yeah, well, did you notice that when that one union worker punched him in the face, Stephen apologized?
Yeah, immediately did.
You know, if a bully took something from, say, his son at school.
Totally.
And then they started fighting, and his son was getting beat up a bit when the fight was eventually broken up.
The bully doesn't have to give anything back, right, that he took.
Of course not.
And his son actually owes his milk and dessert in exchange for protection.
Moving forward.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Seems fair.
You know, this actually aligns with me.
Prison rules.
A while ago, someone broke into my house, and now they're my roommate.
Cool.
That does make sense.
It's incredible.
Squatters, rats.
And they know the dishes sometimes, but mostly they eat.
I mean, I should do it for them.
Sure.
Yeah.
I'm shocked.
I'm shocked by...
I'm shocked by it, but I'm not surprised that the people I'm hearing it come from.
This video, that whole thing, that will be in history books.
It is super embarrassing.
It's shameful.
And anyone who looks at that video and sides with Trump and sides with J.D. Vance, you're siding with the bully.
Ukraine was invaded by Russia.
And you can talk about the borders of Ukraine and NATO and all the handshake agreements from the Cold War period.
Bottom line.
Ukraine was invaded, and you're telling him, why don't you just give up, man?
It'll stop the fighting.
I mean, there were agreements from Russia to Ukraine.
Totally.
Zelensky was just saying, hey, listen, I'll entertain a ceasefire if we have some guarantees this stuff will not happen again.
Ukraine's a fucking nerd.
Yeah, he's a dork-ass baby, man.
Why doesn't he wear a suit?
Okay.
He didn't have a tie on, man.
Yeah, like when he called it, he's like, next time I come, I'll wear your costume.
So I did hear that that was actually a translation error.
That's what I expected.
I expected it just like, he meant like uniform or like, a lot of people don't understand that English is a second language.
So like, when Trump said, we're not playing, or you don't have all the cards, Zelensky just didn't understand that analogy, I think.
I mean, there's a word starting with a K actually in Ukrainian that I think means suit.
Okay.
But, I mean, even costume.
It is kind of a costume.
Well, he needs to learn English.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
It's so performative to have to wear a suit.
Of course it is.
Well, and then Elon wears a t-shirt and a black hat.
Well, and then there's the Churchill at time of war visiting the president wearing fatigues, you know.
Sure.
The argument is that like he hasn't really been out there, out there, but.
Yeah, that's kind of the...
I mean, everyone wants to forget that he did the whole I don't need a ride, I need ammo comment and the whole him posting pictures and video from Keeve.
It was a while ago, though, I guess.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, he's been relaxing at Airbnb since then, man.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's just like the...
I'm just saying, like, what the...
Oh, yeah, I mean, it's all propaganda on every side.
To a certain degree.
Yeah, there's propaganda involved.
But the difference is Ukraine's propaganda is trying to give the Ukrainian people hope to say, hey, the fight's not over.
The people in Russia, their Ukraine is saying, hey, this is a valid invasion.
They're all Nazis.
Yeah, they're all Nazis.
We're trying to stop the Nazis.
We're trying to denazify.
And then I will share that a person I'm acquainted with...
Uh-oh.
Told me that there is no fighting in Ukraine.
All of it is just Zelensky bombing his own people to make himself personal money.
I have no idea.
It's just AI videos and stuff.
It's just bonkers.
But this video made me so mad.
I think Trump and J.D. Vance were on the right in that video.
They were not tough at all.
They were not tough.
They were little, like...
Petty.
And they were behaving like children.
It was embarrassing.
It was Karen behavior.
All these guys wearing makeup telling him to, like, wear a suit.
Oh, okay.
Also pretty good.
Wear a suit so he can look pretty like us, please.
I think this approach, it's been long enough now that the TikTok fever has gone down.
You know, Trump went to bat for TikTok.
He said he liked it very much.
It's a very strong social media.
It's now safe for Stephen to step back into demonizing it as a tool of the CCP. And that's where we're going next.
Speaking of grifters, this is something that I keep looking at this binder.
What's in there?
Stuff I already knew?
Yeah, nothing.
But TikTok.
This is something that I want everyone to kind of have at the front of mind.
I've told you that you need to be vigilant.
That the left...
They've been, have you noticed that since USAID has gone away, the organic protests, kind of done, kind of stopped?
Have you noticed since the gutting, all of a sudden, these organic protests, the pussy marshes of the world, they don't happen.
Yeah, I wonder where they got the money from.
Yeah, that sounds like, hey, what are you going to do without your pallets of bricks?
I know, that was fact-checked, but the point remains.
First.
Cool prop binder.
What's in it?
I do want to know what's in it.
He seems a little embarrassed at this point to have made it.
He doesn't open it.
He just kind of holds it and taps it on the table.
Do you think the binder that he has is that binder that one guy shows all the people?
Of the creepy images in Walmart.
That guy is funny.
The meme guy.
He shows all the memes.
The point does not remain, Stephen.
Your only cited example was debunked, just like you said.
The whole pallet of bricks conspiracy.
Yeah.
Remember that?
How many times did he float that, though?
As, like, a real thing.
Can we make a soundbite of him going, uh, yeah, I was fact-checked.
I know, that was fact check.
For people who don't remember, claims that Antifa or even the police placed piles of bricks in cities where protests were planned following the death of George Floyd.
It was actually a pallet of Goya beans.
Excuse me?
Goya beans.
I would love a protest or a riot sponsored by Goya beans.
That would be kind of fun.
Bans of soup.
This was fully debunked after investigations by media and police.
So, why bring it up?
Is he bringing it up because he's trying to make a George Soros reference?
Of course he is, yeah.
So that he can conveniently talk about Scott Besant, who is hired by the Trump administration for Treasury Secretary?
I don't know anything about that.
You don't know that he's a Soros protege, Byron?
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, so it's just like, I don't know, this guy, you know, Trump's putting Soros guys...
In the cab.
It's going to be really interesting in a year and a half when people start...
Trump cab with Scott percent.
I'm going to say this is a Byron called it.
It'll be after the midterms when people start fully flipping on Trump.
When that red wave doesn't come again or something?
I mean, or if it does, they're no longer actually, like, they don't need him anymore.
Right?
Yeah, I think it's going to be really questionable for this midterm because I feel like people on the right are starting to flip on Trump a little bit.
It seems like it, based on the stock market and the tariffs.
The stock market's doing great, dude.
No.
It's only crashed like 10% in the West.
All the Elon stuff.
I feel like they don't really like Elon that much.
Oh, they definitely don't.
I mean, it's a good point.
Bringing up Soros, Jared, the organic protests, you know, just because the Democrats are better losers than a weirdo MAGA folks doesn't mean that USAID-funded protests that aren't funded anymore?
Is he saying the protests aren't even happening anymore?
Well, I mean, some of them are.
Yeah.
But he's seeing, like, the big massive stuff that happened after the first Trump presidency, the pink pussy hats, Women's Day.
Like, it's actually, a lot of the ones I've been seeing are happening more locally.
Totally, yeah.
I think, if anything, there's just people are a little more hopeless now.
Yeah, it's exhausting.
Yeah.
It's not a funding thing.
It's they've lost hope, not money.
And I do think that with all of the conspiracy theories and election denialism, That the right was really comfortable experiencing.
It gave them more fuel for protest.
Sure.
And they function better on grievance energy than, you know, people like the left.
Yeah.
Where does money for, like, Moms for Liberty come from?
It's Grandmothers for Peace.
And it keeps going up.
They're funded by...
Great-grandmothers for freedom.
So it's generational?
It goes up to...
Yeah, there's a Social Security deep state.
Are they...
Tax dodging on this?
Yeah, the FDA is also tax dodging.
I don't know if you've heard about that, but the FDA is actually...
The FDA is getting tax cuts for hiring DEI. Yeah, that's what I was hearing.
They were all getting tax cuts all of a sudden.
Yeah, dude, the military is getting tax cuts.
That rules, dude.
They're hiring DEI kids from like...
Think about that.
It's mostly who they're hiring, right?
It's like lower income kids.
And then they're like...
Getting a tax cut from that?
That rules.
Yeah, dude, it's crazy.
That's really good for America.
Yeah, dude, tax cuts for the military, please.
TikTok, though.
I actually cut out all the clips surrounding Stephen's walking folks down a path.
Put him back.
No, I'm not going to do that.
The whole TikTok CCP indoctrination.
He does this by starting to show a ton of TikTok videos, sharing health tips from...
Like knee goop?
No, this is different.
That is called Miracle Me.
No, these are health tips from children whose fathers are the highest paid nutritionists in Los Angeles promoting dark chocolate, coconut water, and eventually, deeper in the video, a supplement in the TikTok shop.
Great.
So all that is is a marketing technique that some people discover.
It doesn't mean that it was written out or assigned to people, to a user.
TikTok works on trends.
Oftentimes you'll see something that is successful, so a creator who's looking just to make money on the TikTok shop will reuse that part of the video.
To hook someone.
Yeah.
Saying, my father is the highest paid nutritionist in Los Angeles and these are the tips he wants to share or something.
I can't remember the exact wording.
That is a hook that is going to get some attention.
Yeah.
And that is proven by the popularity of these videos.
Yeah.
It's kind of like how my Facebook feed is full of a single page that posts.
AI-generated pictures of old people who've made their own birthday cakes.
I have some AI pictures of old people coming up in the show, actually.
Cool.
But, I mean, is that how you took that segment, Jared?
I don't know if you listened to the whole episode, but...
Yeah, I mean, it's just sort of like...
His view of this is so skewed.
Only the left are doing this.
No, Meat Boys are doing this too, actually, Stephen.
And here's the thing, is now all of them have the AI calculator for their meat apps, so they can decide how many sardines equals a snack-sized serving.
TikTok is fucking weird.
That's all I'll say.
Yeah, and he acts like the right didn't invent grifting with their crazy...
I mean, obviously they didn't invent grifting.
They act like the right doesn't grift.
All they do is grifting.
They're really good at it.
They're so good at grifting.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, Moms for Liberty.
Like, you know, he's complaining about funding.
Where does it come from?
Like, you know, who's buying these $16 tents from Walmart for these kids or whatever?
And it's like...
They're $16 tents.
Yeah.
It's not that bad.
Which, like, yeah.
If, like, Soros-backed funding did give somebody that, you know, that school organizers, like, money, and they spent it on, like...
You know, a thousand tents for people staying out there.
I guess that's like part of the, hey, we're out here.
We're like doing this, you know?
Sure.
Like, why wouldn't they?
And it's the same thing.
I mean, like, Monster Liberty gets money from like a different set of circumstances.
But some of these people, I think, have gone on to getting, you know, winning like local elections with like real money in their pockets being able to do it, it seems.
I'll research that more later on.
So Stephen then jumps from that to a clearly scripted, well, a handful of clearly scripted DNC statements that were read by Cory Booker, Chuck Schumer, and Elizabeth Warren discussing Trump's failure so far.
Word for word, the exact same script.
And he overlapped those, implying that this was somehow unreasonable.
Yeah, you could find a million clips of GOP folks using the exact same phrases over and over and over again.
Maybe not full sentences and things.
And obviously we want our elected officials to be-- - A united message.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I had always heard rumors.
I don't know actually where I heard this.
It might have been on one of Michael Cohen's podcasts or something like that.
But I heard that the Trump team would send out memos at the beginning of the day with talking points and phrases that he would want the loyalists to hit.
And that's why, you know, like nicknames and slogans.
And that's why all of the folks were saying the exact same thing in the same way.
During his trial in New York, you know, how they were kind of like rolling out a parade of sycophantic...
Totally.
That is a political strategy.
It is a political strategy.
It works very well.
Yeah.
And also examples of this, like, remember when John Oliver lined up all those paid stories on Sinclair Broadcasting?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just...
That would feel a little bit more malicious.
But do they use that example?
They don't, I don't think.
Okay.
Here's the thing with that.
It's like a conservative example.
Sinclair Media is very conservative.
Well, and also I think with that, one of the core differences is that the reason why that's kind of like a malicious feeling thing is that for all those networks, they feel local.
Oh, yeah.
That's misleading.
Because they have local newscasters reading things that are...
Not stated as paid advertising, really.
Totally, yeah.
I would expect the leadership of the DNC, top Democrats in our country, to be on the same message.
I would expect that.
I'd be surprised if they were, like, totally opposites.
Sure.
Well, I mean, they often are, though.
I think the Democratic Party has, like, a real shit time trying to get a unified message across to their supporters.
Yeah, like...
You know, thinking about the Republican media apparatus that sort of surrounds the ability to communicate directly with the president and here's the message and how to say it.
You know, they're much more unified.
They're much tighter on it.
And I think that's why it's the illogical sort of answering of questions or illogical debate tactics that they employ.
It's just sort of like what they're told to do.
That's how they see people in their party argue these things.
So why wouldn't they also, you know, in that same way?
The enemy of the Republicans and the enemy of the Democrats is the Democrats.
Oh, yeah.
That hurts.
Tie our shoes together.
Totally.
And we did it, you know?
Yeah.
So then here we are, phase three of Stephen's TikTok takedown.
Nice.
Round three.
I'm talking phases because, like, binders.
Oh, the takedown or any of it.
Oh, you're thinking of physical.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Either way.
Then there was that moment when Osama bin Laden's letter to America went viral in November of 2023. Were you aware of this at all?
Yeah, like two pages.
It was more pages than two.
It was a bit of a manifesto of Osama bin Laden.
I thought it was pretty short, honestly.
Four pages.
So twice as much as I... So was the zine.
It was kind of a zine.
He had some cool cutouts in there.
Osama Bin Laden's zine to America.
See, that has a better ring to it.
Now I'm in, honestly.
Should have done it.
We can rent it at the local library.
The popularity of this and it going viral wasn't because of China.
It's because of an increasing tension that we were experiencing with the Middle East paired with the interest of an audience that was primarily born after 9-11.
Sure.
And, you know, once the buzz starts rolling, influencers start talking about it.
That's honestly probably all that it was, is just thinking of influencers and 9-11.
You guys get a lot of, like, 9-11 jokes in your feeds these days?
Really funny stuff, actually.
Yeah, walking...
Through people's days in 2021, they hit the second tower!
You know that?
It's like the punchline?
Yes, yeah.
It's funny.
They don't care.
Their teacher didn't shut them down in the first period of ninth grade and say, We gotta learn about mitochondria!
Does your teacher do that?
Yeah, she turned it off and she said, We gotta learn about mitochondria!
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Mine did not.
I was in computer science class and she's like, let's just watch this instead of making Hello World apps.
Weird.
I was in social studies and my teacher started handing out enlistment paperwork.
No way, really?
No, of course they didn't do that.
That's fully inappropriate.
Well, I mean, my social studies teacher...
You were a different school then?
Yes, I was.
Then Stephen starts getting upset with how cool some Chinese cities are with unique modern architecture and trains that go through buildings.
They really didn't like to see other countries.
This reminds me of when Matt Walsh went crazy on Jimmy Kimmel because Jimmy Kimmel talked about how much he loved his trip to Japan because it was so amazing and clean.
And Matt Walsh is like...
We're clean, too.
Like, he was so upset about it.
I mean, that's kind of what you feel here.
Stephen thinks that, oh, my little dog's weekend.
Just don't go outside in the summertime and take a deep breath anywhere.
In any major city.
And complaining about train noise in these buildings.
And I'm like, that is most certainly the first thing they considered.
When you build a building with a train that's going through the middle of it, you think they don't have a solution for how loud the train is?
It's all in his mind.
It's like, it's the train from the movie where the train drives at the screen.
Oh, the scariest film in history.
Can you imagine that's a steam engine?
That thing is loud, brother.
I gotta tell you, it goes Hereditary, Midsommar, and Train Coming at Screen.
Scariest three movies in history.
Just panicking my heart.
Oh my god.
You know, not that I don't have a healthy distrust of TikTok, but really, who the fuck cares?
It's not that big of a deal.
Yeah, I think that Steven talks a lot about his own algorithm probably.
A lot of it, there's just people who are making content and the algorithm is just trying to get views regardless.
I don't think that it's all that...
I mean, it obviously causes problems and there's been genocide in Myanmar because of Facebook.
Not that serious.
I think it speeds up the organic growth of this stuff.
That's what it does.
It's an accelerator.
Exactly.
It's a catalyst to a lot of this stuff.
Who's the guy that we saw the other week?
He's like, the Gooner will never get to try our company's new marshmallow squares.
Yeah, about that Gooner who killed himself.
Until I have more evidence that TikTok is actually algorithmically trying to influence youths in America.
So I will say that the algorithm is unhealthy.
Yeah.
And living in that space is obviously unhealthy.
But I think so much of that comes down, there's just so much nuance to that.
You know, because there is business in all of it, too.
And, you know, Stephen's business lives in the algorithm.
I don't want my kids having phones in their room!
Yeah, right?
Exactly.
And, I mean, you do have to, like, parent, right?
You have to, like, handle that kind of stuff.
I don't know.
I mean, for someone who is so, you know, we need a strong parental figure in everyone's life.
Stephen wants a lot of policing of some of these things.
Sure does.
There's not a lot of time we're talking about that today.
Now for the really twisted stuff.
Tea!
Excuse me?
No, the beverage.
That's our new sponsor, right?
No, it's not.
Steven is about to martyr himself for truth in his sights.
We're about to get into it.
We are about to discuss Germany, which is always a touch and go, historically.
A little bit.
And their imprisoning of their own citizens for jokes.
For opinions, for memes, while their country is being lit ablaze by hostile foreign migrants.
Move over France.
There's a new target in sight.
It's Germany.
Why does Stephen worry so much about other countries' laws?
Well...
Brazil?
Germany?
Is he a globalist?
I've got a theory, and we'll get to that.
But this is just another example of Stephen's delusions of grandeur.
To think that he has influence to say something that would catch the attention of anyone, even close to relevance in Germany, it's laughable.
It's embarrassing.
It's not going to stop him from doing it.
No, of course not.
So if I had not been permanently banned from Germany before this segment, I guarantee you by the end of today, I will.
So I have said this.
Over and over.
The United States is the greatest country in the world.
Why?
Well, I only need one reason.
Freedom of speech.
We can get to the others, but unless you meet that threshold, I don't even think you're in the running.
And Germany certainly isn't even close.
There is no other country on earth that has the foundational principle of freedom of speech as we do in this country.
Comment below if you understand that.
Stephen doesn't understand it.
Norway, Denmark.
Because I need someone to explain it to me.
Sweden, Finland, Canada, New Zealand, and the UK. While no country has the exact same level of freedom of speech as the United States, several offer robust predictions of free expression.
Yeah, and I think that Stephen would probably agree that there are some things that you cannot say.
Oh, and I'll get to those here in a second.
The problem that Stephen has is with the limitations on speech that incites violence and hatred.
So he doesn't want that?
He wants you to be able to, you know, get people riled up enough that they want to go murder somebody?
This is funny.
While the U.S. protection is wider, certain categories of speech are not fully protected, like incitements, defamation, which he's familiar with, fraud, obscenity.
Fighting words.
Is that part of our language?
Yes, yes.
I didn't know this was a thing.
Words likely to incite immediate violence or breach of peace.
They're not protected.
They're not protected by...
First Amendment, that's where the whole...
Oh no.
The police are here.
They heard me say punch him.
Them's fighting words.
Yeah, them's fighting words.
Send him to jail.
True threats and commercial speech.
As commercial speech, like advertising, can be regulated more strictly than non-commercial speech.
Sure, yeah.
Okay.
If it's false or misleading.
Sounds like we have to fix the Constitution then.
We have a pretty thick list of, I guess, things that are not fully protected.
I would say all those seem reasonable.
I completely agree.
And a lot of those things are also applied at the countries like I mentioned above.
Totally, yeah.
All of this to say that Stephen is just being kind of sketchy.
And a little too in love with his idea of the United States, a version that he thinks it's okay to be hateful.
Why did this come up, though?
He mentioned the people getting arrested or whatever?
Yeah, and we're going to get into that story, but that is why he is upset with Germany enough that he is willing to make it impossible for him to travel there ever, even though it won't happen.
He doesn't want to speak out against women being required to cover their faces by the Taliban or anything?
Edge on that.
Dips his toe.
Come on, guys.
This is very small terrier coded.
He's just barking at the window.
Give me a Germany, you cowards!
I dare you to step in my backyard, you cowards!
They're just walking by.
They've got earbuds in.
Actually, though, I'm wrong.
Oh, shit.
Really?
I used to have to argue it in 2015, 2016. I think it's become painfully obvious, but some people still believe that freedom exists, for example, in Europe.
Let's look at Germany.
Right now, they're literally, and I'm not misusing that term, they're literally jailing people for silly memes.
It's 6.01 on a Tuesday morning.
And we were with state police as they raided this apartment in northwest Germany.
Inside, six armed officers searched the suspect's home, then seized his laptop and cell phone.
Prosecutors say those electronics may have been used to commit a crime.
The crime?
Posting a racist cartoon online.
Posting a racist cartoon.
The man in question, we'll get into his name is, well, username is Shlomo.
So...
Is it a silly meme or is it a racist cartoon, Stephen?
I mean...
Same div?
Tomato, tomato, man.
Great.
Shlomo Finkelstein, the pseudonym of Aaron P. I wish they'd give me that last name.
Do you think that Stephen didn't say his full name because he couldn't pronounce it?
Oh, P? No, this is...
I think it's a rule in Germany they don't give the last names of criminals.
A lot of countries do that.
Yeah, well, I mean, they should.
They should give the last names?
They should post their pictures and their addresses?
Yeah.
Okay.
The mom's house.
Well, this guy probably lived at his mom's house for a bit.
28-year-old German YouTuber, right-wing online...
We'll talk more about him here in a minute, but basically he found notoriety for his satirical edgy contents under the YouTube channel Divulgar Analyst, which means the vulgar analysis.
And this is known to be quite provocative and is supposed to be funny.
Nice.
I've heard of that before.
It's typically just...
I've heard of that style of humor.
Yeah, yeah.
4chan stuff.
I've heard of the allegedly humorous.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
To some people, this is pretty funny.
And I just want to make sure I understand.
Stephen said that they were jailed, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They are currently jailed, yes.
They're currently jailed?
Yeah.
But whoa, whoa, whoa.
Have I mentioned that Stephen is a...
Have I mentioned that Stephen's a martyr?
Is he?
Well, of course he is.
In case you were wondering...
Where we line up or how hard we're going to go into this today.
In case you're wondering where we line up and in case you're wondering if I'm ever to be barred from Germany, here's a picture of Albert Einstein, Beethoven, Nietzsche, and Michael Schumacher having a gay orgy.
And burning currants.
Nuh-uh.
They did it.
They went there.
AI strikes again.
Don't blame me.
Blame the machine.
This is the video?
Well, it's a still image that he had made.
He said he drew, but it clearly...
He typed that in.
He used Midjourney or something to make this.
Does he know what an orgy is?
Yeah, a guy's in a steam room.
Yeah, these guys are actually just standing arm-in-arm laughing.
Yeah, I mean...
They got their little sandals on, their little flip-flops going to the steam room.
They got miracle knee gel.
Yeah, they've got miracle knee.
At least two of those guys needed.
Very lazy.
Really lazy, just dumb humor.
But at least we're past that, right?
Oh, no.
Don't think I'll be stamping Deutschland on my passport anytime soon.
Was that in Munich?
Just in case.
Also, here's Anne Frank's OnlyFans.
Where she burns Korans.
I do not like Germany.
Okay.
And I guess he also doesn't like Anne Frank?
What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
Symbol of the victims of the Holocaust and a powerful reminder of the consequences of Nazi policies?
And he made AI porn of her?
Here's her only then.
Did he make AI porn of her?
It's not quite porn, but it is showing Anne Frank with a sweater exposing her cleavage.
Yeah.
Okay.
What the fuck?
How old was she?
I feel like she was like...
She was young.
Yeah.
He made provocative AI teen...
Cleavage.
That's normal for them.
Yeah, I wouldn't say child porn, but it's definitely evocative.
Huh.
It's got the Jasmine from Aladdin thing going on again.
I'm baffled by the Anne Frank thing.
I mean, whose side is he on?
Does he think that the German people that's like...
I mean, it took actually quite some time for...
Germany to come around to the concept of Anne Frank being a positive thing, you know, because there's a lot of complicated feelings in post-war Germany, right?
Yeah.
I bet if she showed more Cleveland so it would have been faster.
Shocking.
It's shocking and it's disgusting.
And it's definitely not funny.
Yeah.
But they think it's hilarious.
Yeah, I think it just kind of misses the mark more than anything.
This is like in an incel discord when someone posts a video of themselves shitting and people laugh at it.
Which Discords are you in?
I mean, all of them.
Shitboys.
Shitboys.
That's like the private channel on the Meat Boys Discord?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is the other side of their videos.
Specifically that reference was from a Vice video about the incel community.
Oh, wow.
Really?
He's like, oh, he's shitting now.
And the guy's like shitting on camera for everyone to look at.
And this guy thinks it's hilarious.
And this is that same kind of an energy.
Doesn't make sense.
It's just...
I'm trying to be edgy to be edgy like a teen would do.
Yeah.
It's like two dudes with the broccoli haircut.
It's just Big Balls.
Dude, that's so crazy.
Yeah, Big Balls is taking the biggest dumper right now, dude.
And the ironic thing is his testicles are pretty small.
Yeah.
Average, at least.
Yeah, normal, mostly.
Huh.
Also, progress against hate is actually fascism.
I don't know if you knew that.
I didn't know that, but I'm glad I know now.
I'm leaving.
But it is funny, isn't it?
It's just a new form of Nazism.
Let's be really clear about that.
Like, I know the left...
I can't remember.
It was on Sunday.
Was it CBS? I can't remember her name.
Where she tried to sit down Vance and say, well, you know, I don't know.
Was she talking to Vance or Vance addressed her?
I don't remember.
But she said the Holocaust started in part because of freedom of speech.
That's what the left believes.
No, no.
I believe that the Holocaust was in large part due to a party who didn't believe at all in freedom of speech or the right to bear arms.
Freedom of anything, really.
I don't believe the primary problem with the Holocaust, or any great, by the way, human rights abuses, I don't believe the primary problem with said abuses was freedom of speech.
As a matter of fact, I would wager that in every single situation where you examine it, you will find that there is direct infringement on freedom of speech.
And I will also argue that every single great civil rights movement started with speech.
And that brings us here to the case of Shlomo Finkelstein.
But before we get to that, first, usually words happen before actions.
Yes.
And also, speech can inspire both hate and progress.
But when it incites violence and hatred, it's unacceptable.
And, I mean, it should be pushed against hard, right?
Well, and also, I think it's really important to talk about the spirit of the law versus the letter of the law, especially when it comes to freedom of speech.
Within the party of the Republicans, if you quote-unquote speak out against your king, you'll be crucified by them.
Which, I mean, we've seen that today when someone stood up against Trump on the Republican Party and he promised to primary them.
Like, that's the thing.
It's like, okay, so the Constitution says you have freedom of speech.
Trump tells you you have freedom of speech.
You tell Trump he's an idiot, he'll kick you out of whatever you do and you'll lose all your power.
Oh my gosh, it was Massey, again, who...
It was the guy who was initially standing up against the spending bill.
Oh, I got you, yeah.
Kentucky's representative, Thomas Massey.
That's the thing, man.
Stephen doesn't realize that freedom of speech is written down, and it means that the government can't prosecute you for certain things, right?
But even then, now they could definitely do some of those crazy things.
It's just that you don't have the freedom of the consequence of your speech, and those consequences are greater when you're trying to speak out against Trump.
Like, if you are close to Trump already.
But him implying that silencing speech is what actually caused the Nazis to rise to power.
It's not.
Because there was a point when they weren't in power.
Yes.
Where they used their speech to gain power.
Yep.
That's just how it works.
I think speech is powerful.
It can be used for good and it can be used for bad.
Most civil rights movements probably did start with speech.
And it was probably pushed against as well.
Of course it was.
But that is how great movements start.
It's also how evil, bad movements start.
Yes.
That's all there is to it.
And I really, really hate that what people do with...
When there's ever a comparison to Nazi Germany or the Holocaust or anything like that, people always care the final results of those things to the early stages of these things.
Sure.
We have to reflect on the things that we're seeing.
The totality of it.
Yeah, like Trump shitting on the press.
That's freedom of speech, too.
But the interesting thing is we've allowed it to get so much worse.
Before, whenever Trump was at a rally, he'd point to the journalists and say, oh, they're turning their cameras off, fake news, media.
That's something.
But now that he's in office, he's being selective with who can cover him.
He's blocking the AP from coming into things because they won't call it the Gulf of America.
That's...
That's a...
Step against the First Amendment.
Or he's banning quote-unquote illegal protests and saying that illegal protesters should be arrested.
He's deporting people speaking out against mistreatment.
We'll get to a little bit of that.
That is literally going against the First Amendment.
It would be like if Biden said, give me your guns.
I'm taking away illegal guns.
And it's now ice cream.
Now it's a t-shirt that says...
No guns are illegal.
Ice cream for free.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
But back to Finkelstein.
Get my guns for nothing and my ice cream for free.
Free.
If that's a platform, I think I'm in.
Yes.
Back to Finkelstein.
So this is the person in question.
In August of 2022, Finkelstein was arrested for incitement and insulting religious beliefs by burning the Quran.
I guess putting pork on the Quran and extinguishing the Quran with P. So I believe it was claimed to have been simulated P. I don't know if that was just to get charges dropped.
What did it taste like?
See, I wasn't there.
So for whatever the new sound...
So whatever the new sound guy's name is, Stretch, Burn Ends is good.
Goose, Beans, or Bubba.
It might actually still be Noodles.
Is it the sound guy's name?
Yeah, but whoever it is, they need to take back that yeah sound drop if it was fake pee.
Yes.
I'll just say that.
I understand that.
You may think it's distasteful to burn the Quran.
Yep, you may think it's distasteful to pee on the Quran.
I get it.
Absolutely.
But it doesn't matter.
And here's another comparison before I get to the court documents.
You need to understand this is a big difference between Christianity and Islam.
Christianity, certainly today, you can look at majority Christian countries.
They do not demand that everyone else conform, not just to their laws, but to their views of perceived slights.
I wish that Stephen would speak out against the murder of Ukrainians as violently as he's speaking out to someone being racist and inciting terrible things in another country.
Yeah, it would be interesting to see him.
It's really obvious where his priorities are.
Yeah.
Stephen, you don't live in fucking Germany, man.
You've never lived there.
Isn't Christianity the predominant religion in Ukraine?
Is it?
I don't know.
I think it is.
I should know.
Primarily Eastern Orthodox.
Sorry.
Stephen telling people to not be offended by things, but then starting your show by yelling about trans candles?
Just move on.
If that's something you don't care about, don't care about it.
And that's happening in the United States.
Oh, yeah.
That's a grievance that has to do with you in some capacity.
This is literally another country that you don't want to go to.
You've never lived in.
You can't go into now.
Yeah, you can't go into now, probably.
It's just, why are you doing this?
Ding.
Question of the day.
Yeah.
Because they're making non-Baron Air candles.
Why isn't he speaking out against the egg prices in Australia?
Or why isn't he worried about the cost of housing in UAE? Sure.
Why are you picking on this man?
Well, because he's sympathetic.
I like peer humor.
He doesn't take his vitamins.
That's probably it.
So I mentioned a handful of countries that have robust freedom of speech.
Germany does have less of that, which...
I think is probably in response to what happened in World War II. Maybe.
There's a lot of concessions following that big whoopsie that they did.
Yeah, quite the whoopsie.
But now things are different, and because the...
Now people are being stifled.
Well, because the target of his hate is protected, their protection is unacceptable.
I think he's worried it's going to bleed over here.
I think he's the bad guy.
I understand.
I get it.
Your religion says that you can't depict Muhammad.
Mine does.
Them's the brakes.
But according to the court in Germany, he said, Shlomo's goal in these actions was to insult, degrade, and mock the religion of Islam and the religious beliefs of Muslim people, thereby insult, degrade, and mock all users.
He also accepted the risk of inciting all users who were able to view the video to also adopt a hostile attitude toward the religion of Islam and the religious beliefs of Muslim people.
What?
I wouldn't want to piss him off either, actually.
No, no, no.
Just the Islamic users who are offended.
You know, the users who would most likely empathize with the people raping your women.
And destroying your towns and running over your citizens with cars.
How about we place a little more concern on that?
This is pissing me off so fucking much.
Well, yeah, it's pretty cool to, you know...
It's making me so mad.
You know, lean into that stereotype, the classic Muslims are rapists justification for...
How long has he been doing this show for?
Over a decade.
Okay, over a decade.
And so, he certainly remembers...
Like Charlie Hebdo.
Yeah, that was one of the things that stood out to him.
You know, he's a big defender of Charlie Hebdo, and so is Shlomo, actually.
Has Stephen ever depicted Muhammad?
Yeah, yes, actually.
He painted Muhammad with period blood, yeah.
Okay, Jesus Christ.
Yeah, really cool stuff.
He's probably one of the best guys.
So just, he's like...
Is he not popular?
Why didn't they come after him?
It was a big to-do.
Maybe we'll dig back to that next week because this show is so fucking bad.
I'm interested to hear about it.
One thing I will say about that last clip that did give me a little bit of joy in my heart was that you could tell that Steven got sick of his fake accent like halfway through.
Did you hear Tim give a little chuckle because he didn't know that if it was like...
This is even crossing the line for Tim the Tool Man to react.
Because usually he'll give him a lot of courtesy laugh, but he's like, this doesn't even make sense for me to laugh at.
Yeah, but he's like, I committed to have to fucking finish out this.
Yeah, live in your shit, man.
I mean, I've definitely written six scripts that get tired about halfway through.
Thanks, Dennis.
I appreciate you.
I'll see you later.
Gross.
Gross take.
Just awful guy.
One of the worst.
It's not your country, man!
That's all I want.
It's not your country!
Don't live there if you don't want to live on those rules.
Yeah, as Trump continues to be more and more isolationist, I think Stephen is kicking like a small child to, you know, have his influence spread across the world because now he's been given this mandate here that he feels like should be spread.
Is he trying to get a German audience?
I don't actually know.
I think he just wants to defend a Nazi, but we'll get into that.
You know, at least under this administration, freedom of speech is stronger than ever, right?
Right now, the left is furious about the imbalance of power, but guess what?
We're looking at more freedoms, we're looking at more rights, and we're looking at government efficiency.
They think that is the worst abuse of human rights.
It's doge right now.
Have you seen people?
Actually being silenced or jailed for speech?
No, no.
AP not being allowed in the Oval Office because they don't call it Gulf of America doesn't count.
When the left has unfettered power, this is always what happens.
And they prioritize tolerance and virtue signaling over the well-being of their own citizens.
So this is a new recording.
Before we get to that, I'm going to stop for a second.
Unless you want to protest.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean...
No one's been deported recently.
You know, that agitators, in quotes, would face arrest, expulsion, or deportation depending on their actions.
That's something Trump said.
And that federal funding would be pulled from institutions that allow what Trump called illegal protests.
Yeah, well, no protest is illegal.
Not specifically pro-Palestinian demonstrations.
Those are illegal.
Because they're terrorist sympathizers.
Yeah, well, I mean, he's got to clear up that space so he can get his cool, busty, bearded people.
Resort going.
Yeah, the BBR. The BBR. Great.
Yeah, and just this week, you know, Darren and I were talking a little bit about this before we got on mic, that radical foreign pro-Hamas student, Khalil, green card holder.
Trump is now vowing to track down more folks like Khalil and expel him and the rest of them from the country.
Yeah, and so it'll be interesting to hear Stephen's really consistent take on this.
Literally, somebody is going through the same thing Stephen is so upset about in our country right now.
He's upset about someone speaking their mind in a way that the country thinks is inappropriate.
And that's literally happening here.
This person is speaking their mind, and they're arrested for what Trump thinks is inappropriate.
Their lawyer said, We don't know where they're being held.
Yeah.
Just, why didn't Stephen speak out about that?
Because?
Oh, I'm fine with that!
Oh, you're right, you're right.
He's totally fine with that.
And, I mean, I'm going to listen to the episode surrounding all this because I'm sure Stephen's going to have a unique take that's very different.
I mean, he may even Crowder called it.
I hope not, man.
This is, he's a, he's a, what is this?
He's better than a seven.
Stephen's a dumb, a dumb guy.
A dumb guy.
Speech is fine here.
Yeah, it's fine.
You can't protest Tesla?
Yeah, no, definitely not.
Boycotts are illegal and...
Boycotts are illegal.
No, they're illegal and collusive.
They are.
Is what Trump said.
When are you guys going to buy yours?
Well...
Did you guys get your mandatory purchase date?
They just take it out of your tax or turn it out.
Do you guess the tax credit is coming?
If you buy Tesla, you get a tax credit of the full value of the Tesla.
Yeah, we've removed the EV tax credit, but now you just get the TV tax credit, and I don't know what V is for, but it's Tesla.
Vroom, vroom.
Vroom, a sad vroom.
It's going to be bad.
And also, vandalism of Tesla.
Dealerships or factories is domestic terrorism now.
An archived YouTube site posted a recording of Shlomo from prison, and that's what Stephen's going to play here.
Here's parts of what Stephen pieced together.
This is a new recording from the person in question, Shlomo, where he describes this dystopian story in detail surrounding his arrest.
Dear Mr. President Donald Trump, dear Mr. Elon Musk, and dear other friends in America, Germany, and around the world, this is a message from a German prison.
On the 13th of August, 2024, I was taken away from my girlfriend and son, who just turned one at the time.
On that day in August last year, I was going for my usual walk with my son, when about 15 undercover policemen and cops wearing ski masks ripped the stroller with my child in it away from me and overpowered me, screaming, don't do anything stupid.
Think of the child He had seven counts for playing one clip, sorry.
Yeah Yeah, bad parody.
You know, just because it's called comedy music doesn't mean it's funny.
And oftentimes it is the opposite.
I really thought he was going to say a parody song by Steven Crowder.
That would have made a lot of sense.
And maybe that is why he's upset.
He's worried that his robust catalog of parody songs might get...
Steven Crowder.
Safe for Germany.
Oh, that's kind of a cool sticker to have.
It's like the opposite of the parental advisory.
It's like political advisory, this shit rules or something.
Political advisory, this shit rules.
So Raka Raka Ali is...
One of those, you know, comedian musicians on YouTube.
I think he's got albums.
I didn't really dig too much into it because...
Does he have vinyls?
Do you have a special pressing?
I do, yeah.
You know I love collecting evil shit.
So, quick trigger warning as we exercise our freedom of speech by playing part of a track that got Shlomo locked up.
Oh, no.
Sorry.
And here we go.
White goes high, Canadian says A, Mexican goes half a night, Arab goes, French goes, and the Asian says, German goes yeah, WAP goes ee, and the Jew says oi, oi, oi, but there's one sound that no one knows.
And then there's a whole bunch of slurs for...
What does the black say?
Black say.
That's the name of the song.
Anyone who's choosing to listen to this should go to jail.
I'm not pulling any punches with this one.
You've got to get locked up.
We've got to send you to a re-education camp.
We've got to...
FEMA needs to take care of your ass.
That's all I'm saying.
I think one of the most concerning parts is the first ethnicity, I guess, was just white.
And then we run through a whole bunch of others, like French and...
Asian, just all Asians?
Yeah, of course.
But I'm not going to critique the content of the song.
It's all bad.
My critique is the same as it always is, is that this...
Conservative creativity is just take something and make it worse.
Like, take a lib thing and make it worse.
What did the fox say was already really awful?
It was terrible.
It's like, shit.
Never actually even heard that song before.
So, to me, this is the original.
You've never heard it before?
No, I just know it from the shirts and stuff.
Have you heard it yet?
Come on, we don't need to.
I think I get it because it's like, what does the black guy say?
Yeah, it sucks.
Yeah, it's bad.
They also took a clip in which I met fun of leftists who smear right-wingers as Nazis out of context and charged me with the use of extremist symbols.
To visualize what I was talking about, I had shown an historical picture of Goebbels who was wearing a swastika on his arm.
On the 15th of January, 2025, the German intelligence agency, Kreuz Verfassungsschutz, visited the prison to talk to me.
About one month earlier, it surprisingly looked like I could get out on probation this February.
The administration of the prison I'm in had weighed in in favor of me being released early.
I rejected to talk to the German intelligence agency, which is notoriously known for blackmailing people into spying on the political opposition to the left-wing German government and deep state.
After I refused to talk to them, two weeks went by and I received a letter from the Berlin police.
I've never lived in Berlin.
In this letter, I was asked to comment on a new case against me.
Hate speech, of course.
The offenses I'm in prison for right now took place between 2016 and early 2019. I had my court hearing.
Not only didn't I get out on parole, the young judge told me that she wouldn't let me out on parole ever.
She told me that she doesn't believe I really want to be deraticalized, because I'm still a right-winger.
Dear Mr. Vice President J.D. Vance, At almost exactly the same time, I saw your speech at the Munich Security Conference, and it gave me a sliver of hope.
Hope that the authoritarian cause that my country has taken isn't set in stone.
And by the way, this is why you play no small role.
The mammoth size of the audience here and the influence that you have, that emboldens our representatives.
It emboldens our politicians to speak on our behalf and then people abroad also.
See hope.
Holy shit, he took credit?
Yeah.
He's taking credit?
Yeah, he's taking...
Well, yeah, for this guy who reached out to J.D. Vance and Trump.
I found the YouTube page.
Well, I did as well.
And unfortunately, I don't speak German.
His original must have been taken down because this is an archived re-upload by someone also in Germany.
And I think that this is where this prison conversation was uploaded.
So I imagine it's his friend or someone associated with him.
Sure.
Well, I mean...
I think what drives me crazy about things like this is that you have to be honest and you can't just be like, all I did was play one clip of a bad parody song and they threw me in jail and now they said that I'll never get out because I'm so radical.
Be realistic.
That's not all that happened.
I don't speak German.
I did go to the website.
No, clearly.
Clearly?
I don't know.
I was going to say, I confused myself.
That was a little Stephen-esque blunder.
But I did try to use a Google Translate app on some of the audio of the videos, and it was not pretty, the things that were being said.
Very offensive, edgelord content.
And also the picture of Joseph Goebbels wearing a Nazi uniform was not the only piece of Nazi imagery that I saw on his page.
page it might have been the only one that was explicitly cited in this hate speech lawsuit against him sure I also know that this is not the first time that he's been in trouble for this it was 2020 he received a suspended sentence for hate speech blasphemy and using illegal symbols I would if I was to judge I would also not be surprised to hear that he was gonna just do it again because he's shown no real remorse in fact he's doing the opposite he's framing himself as a political prisoner yep
I... He doesn't live where I live.
No, but this is the kind of guy that Stephen chooses to stand up for.
Totally.
So I'd like to talk a little bit more about Shlomo.
I listened to the entire call from prison.
Okay.
That was a call?
I thought it was like a point-and-click Sierra game from the 1990s.
Yeah, what was the clicking?
Those were references available, basically.
Whoever edited the video was also clicking up.
It was very much missed.
Doing a puzzle in Phantasmagoria or something.
Sure.
I'm out here in the seventh guest just clicking on anything I can get my hands on.
So, yeah, whoever edited added references, court documents, and still images.
Yeah, that's what those clicks were.
But also, this is probably one of the best edited videos that Stephen and the crew has put together because the way that this was shown, there were certain things that Stephen chose to admit from these conversations.
You know, we'll listen to those and I'll discuss maybe, and then maybe we'll discuss about why he did cut some of those clips here.
My name is Aaron.
I am a writer and YouTuber who is somewhat tied to the AFD. I conducted interviews with people like AFD politician Björn Höcke, the former vice chancellor of Austria, H.C. Strache, or the chief spokesman for Trump's 2016 campaign, Jason Miller.
Cool.
He talked to Jason Miller.
Oh, nice.
Seems like he's about to tell me...
Like, to check the dumpster for the body in Police Quest or something.
Freaking my ass out.
One of the guys he interviewed, though, Bjorn Hawker.
He's a prominent German politician known for his leadership in the far-right Alternative for Germany party, which is the AFD. And I feel like a lot of people have heard a lot about that recently.
It's the party that Elon Musk has been cozying up to after he publicly endorsed them in January of 2025, calling them the best hope for the future, emphasizing the need for Germany to move beyond its past guilt, particularly in relation to the Nazi era, saying, yeah, children should not be guilty of the sins of their parents and let alone their great grandparents, which partially agree.
I think the Holocaust is a little different.
Yes.
It's not something that we should ever forget.
Just get over it, man.
Trivializing the Holocaust, suggesting that Germany should focus less on historical guilt and more on preserving its cultural identity.
I mean, if your dad killed someone, you shouldn't be responsible for that.
Sounds like...
In general.
Yeah, of course, yeah.
But you should also...
If your dad said, I hate Jews, you should say, yeah, I don't agree with that, though.
Yeah, you should clearly state that.
I know that historically he said that, but I do not agree with that.
And you should never be exhausted by having to talk about your hateful father.
Yeah, it's been a little while.
I think I'm okay with the hate now.
Great.
All of this is in line with the beliefs of the party.
In addition to...
This also really echoes the Confederacy conversation here.
A little bit, yeah.
The AFD also very anti-immigration.
There's something called remigration that was discussed in a secret meeting involving far-right extremists, including an Austrian neo-Nazi named Martin Selner.
Basically, they want to do mass deportations of non-nationals in Germany.
The AFD party does.
Cool.
Yep.
Also attached to that, they're extremely Islamophobic and...
Anti-Semitic, you know, banning kosher slaughter as part of their platform, saying explicitly that Islam does not belong in Germany.
A lot of anti-Muslim sentiment.
Absolutely.
But back to the Shlomo interviewee, Bjorn, in 2017, he referred to a Holocaust memorial in Berlin as a monument of shame, suggesting that Germany...
Pardon me, Germans need a 180 degree change in their commemoration policy.
He was convicted in 2024 for using a Nazi slogan.
And again, I don't speak Germany.
I don't speak Germany.
Clearly.
And again, fuck you.
And of course I don't speak German, but...
He said, alles für Deutschland, which means everything for Germany, said that during a 2021 campaign rally and was fined 13,000 euros.
And he argued that he was innocent, claiming that the phrase was an everyday saying.
And maybe it was between 1939 and 1945 when it was engraved on Nazi stormtrooper daggers.
Yeah, probably don't say that one.
Let that one go.
Yep, yep, yep.
So these are the types of people that he's supporting.
And again, I do not speak German, but I do see lots of Nazi imagery.
This is a mess.
As well as his avatar.
We didn't really talk much about that.
It's kind of an offensive, happy merchant-style avatar that he uses to represent himself.
This next clip explains a bit more about why a raid might have taken place.
You know, he was just out with his kid.
He was out.
My girlfriend worked throughout the week while I took care of our son, and I did a political show on the weekends while she took care of him.
We lived together.
The arrest warrant came during her pregnancy.
If I would have surrendered myself at that time, I would have missed my son's birth.
So he refused to comply with the warrant because he wanted to be present for his son's birth.
I have a feeling he's using his son's birth as an excuse because I imagine he didn't immediately go turn himself in after the birth of his child.
He's born?
I'm here?
What up?
Nope.
How old was his son?
14. He had just turned a year old, I think.
Okay, so for a year, he knew he was supposed to be turning himself in for a year.
Uh-huh.
But he was unfairly raided.
In front of his family.
Yeah, think of the kid.
You know, when you spend most of your time either doing a weird YouTube political meme show or just spending time with your family, odds are you're either going to be raided while doing that or in front of your family.
And I have no real sympathy for that.
I don't, yeah.
Seems like he may have actively been evading arrest.
Yeah.
Cool.
And the pseudonym Shlomo...
Maybe tomorrow.
I mean, yeah, when do you do it, huh?
When's a good time?
Is that what the police say?
When's a good time for you to come in and be arrested?
After I do my taxes, maybe?
They clearly, after the season finale of my favorite show.
The new Final Fantasy comes out next week.
Can I put 40 hours into that and then come in?
I think they might let you actually play it in German prison.
That's insane.
It's actually pretty nice.
The pseudonym Shlomo Finkelstein.
Steinerstein.
I never get those right.
I don't know.
Fired.
Josh?
Shlomo.
Sorry.
You might be thinking this is a stereotypical Jewish name being used ironically for offense.
Is it?
Hmm.
They charged me with anti-Semitic hate speech because I have represented myself with a stereotypically Jewish-looking caricature as an avatar.
Please let me explain that last one briefly.
My online pseudonym was Jomo Finkelstein.
That nickname was originally given to me by actual neo-Nazis who were angry about my support for Israel.
Because I don't mind being called a Jew, I then took that nickname and branded it as something positive to make fun of them.
It was sort of like an early version of the Yes meme.
This is the part of the game where I'd be like, alright, like I've got a lot of information about this guy and I just found out that he's like maybe a dumb piece of shit.
Is it required that I go fetch him?
Because I'm just going to skip this and probably forget about it, if I'm honest.
If it's possible.
If I'm Indiana Jones and I'm trying to do the last temple.
I don't need this quest in the way.
We can skip this quest.
The game takes long enough as it is.
I'm trying to get to Atlantis, my friend.
This is like when you're being bullied and the bully goes, Hey, you're gay.
You go, Gay means happy, so I am gay.
No, I don't know if it's exactly that.
But I do understand.
I do like that, yeah.
Yeah.
You got cancer if your hand's not as big as your face.
This guy is clearly anti-Semitic.
I went in there with all this anti-Semitic stuff and then these 4chan guys said all this anti-Semitic stuff to me.
So I thought that I would just run with that joke for a while to make it, like, you know, funny.
Well, it shows that he has no actual care for...
Jewish people.
We're the merchants.
And I'm honorary.
Yes.
I've made myself one.
And I'm kicking his ass out of the gang.
Oh, no.
Sorry, Shlomo.
You're gone.
Oh, man.
Dump.
Hit the flush button for me.
I don't have a flush.
Fine.
Oh!
Oh no!
Yeah, that's him falling down the toilet.
That's me going, ugh, the toilet.
Yeah, perfect.
So then we jump back into the gang talking about...
There's a lot of other clips about him just kind of whining that I think they cut because he didn't seem as cool as the image that they wanted to make.
They wanted to get beyond this 4chan-adjacent YouTube user.
Just making funny memes, that's all.
We return to the gang talking about how cool this kind of anti-woke expansionism...
Seems cool to me.
This is Janie Vance.
I love Janie.
What I worry about is the threat from within.
The retreat of Europe from some of its most fundamental values, values shared with the United States of America.
And unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes not so clear what happened to some of the Cold War's winners.
I look to Brussels, where EU commissars warn citizens that they intend to shut down social media during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what they've judged to be, quote, hateful content.
Or to this very country, where police have carried out raids against citizens suspected of posting anti-feminist comments online as part of, quote, combating misogyny on the internet, a day of action.
And here's...
The takeaway, we cannot have alliances with countries, with nations, that not only don't share our fundamental values, but their views are antithetical to our values.
J.D. seems really worried about Cold War winners.
Yeah.
Are there any other countries that kind of won out on the Cold War that we should worry about right now?
No, not any bad ones.
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
I forgot that Ukraine's a bad one.
Stephen's like...
Again, expansionism is so weird.
He says that, one, if there's no freedom of speech, we cannot be friends with another country because we don't share values.
Without the context of all of the stuff that he was saying about Canada in last week's episode, saying that they don't deserve to be a country.
I just get the idea that Stephen believes so strongly in this mandate of conservatism or whatever he would consider conservatism, which is actually just, you know, Christian nationalism.
This mandate needs to expand globally.
Expand it.
Nice.
That's the name of the episode.
He wants to be a globalist.
That's honestly the vibe that I get from it.
It's like, for so much shouting about how we shouldn't be policing the world, a lot of that, when people talk about that, they talk about it like, we're not going to fight wars for other countries.
But he's okay with fighting the values war of other countries?
Yeah.
It just doesn't make sense.
It's like an Infowars type website.
It does.
That's good.
That's our new website.
I mean, he's kind of trying to be like...
Germany, you need to get more like Florida.
More gators.
More swamp.
More...
Less rights for the people who live there.
Oh man, value is worth $3,195.
Dang, that's expensive.
It's at hugedomains.com.
Interesting.
I just think that it's more startling than I anticipate from Stephen.
I mean, he's influencing his audience.
He's trying to move to Germany and get it a little bit more Florida.
I just think that it's...
Get there, take your shirt off.
Of course.
I think that the vibe is, look what they're doing to people in Germany, and this is coming for you.
Unless you fight back.
I think that's a vibe because I can't think of literally anything else because there's so many other countries with more human rights issues.
I think he's conquered the United States, though.
He hasn't.
Well, I agree, but I think that...
They own the culture, though.
I mean, we all know that he just hangs out with his employees in his compound.
So from the outside, the news, you know, being what it is, could give the appearance that this is a conservative utopia.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, we'll watch Donald Trump buy a Tesla today.
As part of a press conference.
Yeah.
You know?
Oh, God, kill me.
Yeah.
You see what I'm saying, though?
It's like, I think his new objective is like, okay, check.
Checkmark.
The United States is done.
I think that this is a strategy for still being a victim.
Could you imagine Donald Trump driving a car?
I've seen so many AI videos of it.
Yeah, yeah.
But what does he look like behind the wheel of a Tesla?
Scared.
Just so scared.
He's like, I've never done this before.
My favorite thing was he was talking at the end of the conference.
They're like, how are you going to pay for it?
And he's like, oh, I like to write checks.
I like to write big.
I don't do credit cards.
I like to write checks.
And then he's standing next to Elon Musk, who's like...
He's the guy who's trying to start his own online credit card processing through Twitter.
Please, President Trump, I cannot process any more of these big checks.
It's just so silly.
Everyone's so detached and they're all just...
And they're just actually...
Physically big checks, just like the publisher's clearinghouse things.
Imagine having not just one large check, but a checkbook of large checks.
So you can rip them.
Yeah, you gotta walk it off.
Yeah.
Alright, okay.
The enemy from within, huh, JD? Cool speech.
Yeah, I mean, the stances of the current administration have given full reign to say everyone else is out of touch.
That's what I'm trying to say.
That's at least how I feel.
That and suicidal.
So we've talked about the priorities of Europe in providing social benefits, social welfare, free internet, free healthcare, free vacation, free lunches, right?
Instead of protecting themselves.
Well, these are about the cultural values.
So we know they are not aligned with the United States as it relates to military values, as it relates to international treaties.
They don't honor.
So they're not good friends.
We don't either.
But then, when you look at your closest friends, your advisors, people you let in your inner circle, Let me ask you this.
Typically in your life, aren't they people whose values you share?
Would you ask for relationship advice from someone who you know doesn't share your values, who you know doesn't share your perspective on relationships?
Would you ask for relationship advice on a monogamous marriage, for example, from someone who's in an open marriage, who openly advocates for it?
No, you wouldn't.
So these are the core values that we're talking about beyond just the military.
The priorities of Germany and most of Europe.
Their priority is punishing speech, intimidating citizens, while tolerating evil and allowing radical Islamic fundamentalism to flourish.
I mean, his analogy just doesn't work.
We do live on a planet with all of these countries.
So we need to learn how to work with them.
Yeah.
You don't need to ask somebody for advice to allow them to exist.
Like, I have a neighbor.
I've never asked them for advice.
Uh-huh.
And I've also never gone into their house and told them how to live their life.
Sure.
You don't have to.
No, you don't have to.
But I am saying that we do have to exist with other people.
Do you think that Hillary has a friend...
Sorry.
Do you think that...
Just to react.
Yeah, knee jerk.
Hillary Crowder.
Oh, of Stephen's ex.
Oh, how do you think Stephen thought about being married to someone named Hillary?
That was actually a huge part.
He wanted her to change to the middle name.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did he really?
No.
Okay.
But do you think that she had, like, a friend who was a swinger who, like, said, you should leave Stephen as a dick?
Oh, interesting.
Well, I think that Stephen probably was like, why would you trust them?
They're just a swinger.
They don't know anything about marriage.
So what I found interesting about the beginning of that clip is, like, he...
He shares all these things that are great in other countries.
Yeah.
And he doesn't recognize that they are great in that clip.
But let me ask you, both of you guys, if you were no longer able to say hate speech, but in exchange you got free health care, free internet, maternity leave, vacations, would you guys give up your hate speech?
No, it's my first amendment.
Right.
Yeah.
I want to be able to be a hater all I want, to be honest.
Well, the cool thing about hate speech is you can say it to yourself and to your friends.
You can have diary hate speech.
I'm going to only publish mine on my SoundCloud page.
It's just like, hate speech is just, the intention is to hurt someone.
So don't hurt people.
Every time I get a bill in the mail from my healthcare provider...
I just shout the N-word.
Whoa, dude, that's a lot.
I'm just out here saying, like, you know, I don't like it when you do this thing!
Well, you shouldn't do that.
You shouldn't do that at all, dude.
I'm a hater!
It's also not his fucking country!
No, it sure isn't.
You can't work with a country that behaves like that.
Do you think he's in the market for a Volkswagen and he's mad about it?
Is that what's happening?
The dealership is just like, sorry man, German.
When he was talking about do you get relationship advice from somebody who doesn't have your political views?
Do you think that maybe they were like, Steven, I've gone on a couple dates with this person, and then he interrupts them and he does the Jamaican crab accent.
He's like, you've got to kiss the girl.
And then the other guy's like, hey man, I don't really think you should be doing that accent anymore.
Yeah, I got cancelled because someone asked me for relationship advice.
Fuck.
Holy shit.
Okay.
Yeah.
They say this person needs to de-radicalize.
I think the people who actually run over your folks with cars need to be de-radicalized.
And I think the hundreds of millions of people, Muslims believe it's 158 million, we can bring up that poll, who believe that violence...
Is at least sometimes justified?
I think that's a bigger problem than memes.
Didn't Stephen once say that political violence is justified sometimes?
Let's see if I wrote that down.
Yes.
Yeah, he did.
He said that quite a bit.
We covered that in some episodes.
He clearly said it.
And also, strange that using cars as weapons, that's a Muslim thing.
Not James Fields, the white supremacist at Charlottesville's Unite the Right rally who killed that young lady, Heather.
That's the one time it's happened, right?
Well, I mean, there was also a handful of folks who rammed protesters during the Black Lives Matter protests.
I'm talking about unjustified violence.
Oh, then there was in Canada.
I know that we're not supposed to talk about Canada.
In 2021, when Nathaniel Veltman used a pickup truck to attack a Muslim family, killing four.
Awesome.
Very, very cool.
Let me ask a question.
These guys don't seem like the type that would, you know, have a couple drinks and make sexually threatening social media posts against prominent female politicians or celebrities, right?
I mean, it doesn't sound like that to me.
They conducted in Germany raids and interrogations of 45 people for, quote, misogynistic posts.
Hey, could that include men are stronger than women?
Could that include women shouldn't be in combat roles?
Change my mind.
Do you understand this?
This program, and this platform, by the way, Rumble, could not exist in anywhere outside the United States.
Do you understand that?
Well, it shouldn't exist, actually.
Yeah, it shouldn't exist here.
I should also say he's skewing this 45 individuals.
Of course he is.
Yeah, so March 7th, 2024, German law enforcement's conducted a series of coordinated raids across the country.
I think it was 11, whatever they consider states, targeting 45 individuals suspected of posting misogynistic hate speech online.
This operation was part of the annual Combating Misogyny on the Internet Day of Action, which was held just before Internet.
Which is woke bullshit.
It is woke bullshit, dude.
Pink pussy hats, dude.
Yeah, all the cops had pink pussy hats.
And all of them had pink crocheted handles on their pistols, too.
It was kind of cool.
What's that song of the Katy Perry?
It's like...
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That one.
People are handing out Diet Pepsis.
Jenner was there.
How many of the 45 were detained during these raids, do you think?
I'd have to guess all of them.
It's actually none.
None?
Yeah, none of them.
Raid sounds bad, though.
It does.
I wouldn't have used the word raid, actually.
I think raid is the term that I saw.
It is, I mean, what they called it.
Yeah.
The focus was on identifying and interrogating individuals who had made online threats and posts that included sexualized threats and violence.
Okay, so it wasn't quite...
No women in combat rules!
Okay, it wasn't that.
It was more like, we should kill women in combat rules?
And also rape them while they're dead.
Okay.
Yes.
So, I mean...
It sounds like both reasonable things.
These posts also included encouragement to send nude photos and advocated for rape and sexual assault.
Additionally, authorities flagged content that distributed videos depicting acts of torture and killing.
So it sounds just like a college Stephen being mean to a college kid.
I love to, you know, send my crush videos from rotten.com and say, this could be you.
It's just like, it's just...
Why does he have to defend sickos all the time?
Because sometimes I want to show a girl a snake eating a whole man.
I just don't understand.
And how could you frame this like, this could be you, listener?
No, I would hope not.
You could be that guy and the snake is actually the mainstream media.
See, that's a meme.
That's what I'm talking about.
It's really, really gross.
It's even being like...
I almost wish this didn't happen two hours in, but this is the point, right?
It's the total point.
Yeah, it's like defending...
He's like, listen, if you're 30 and you're dating 18...
You should probably be pissed that these people are outlawing child porn.
You're dating down, but it's not what you're doing.
No, buddy.
You're defending the worst part of this.
The nasty stuff.
A majority of his show...
Past the TikTok and the trans candles.
He spent a majority of his show defending a guy who posts racist and Nazi memes.
A bunch of guys who were threatening, and it was for the most part not citizens, which I might have a problem with.
It was female politicians and celebrities.
The amount of protection that celebrities and politicians get over citizens is like, it's a conversation that needs to be had.
Totally, yeah.
It is different.
But this is 45 guys who were not detained, who were being awful.
Yeah.
And he thinks that that needs to be the focus of his show, victimizing these people and saying that we need to no longer have relations with the country of Germany if they're going to behave like this.
Totally.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Is there a problem?
I thought you were hyping him up.
No.
I'm doing fucking jack.
Let's go, baby!
And by the way, my heart goes out to the German people.
The German people who don't want this.
Unfortunately, you have been represented by awful, awful spineless cowards for far too long.
And there needs to be more done about it.
You need to change more minds there.
Well, luckily, there are some people who are, you know, bringing us these stories like that.
The lady who brought us the story was Naomi Sept.
Yes.
I don't know.
Excuse me.
I'm not saying it right.
I'm sure.
Naomi Sept.
Sept.
Sept.
I don't know.
She broke the story on X. Cool.
I mean, yeah, she's a cool journalist, right, Jared?
Yeah, they kind of...
How did they pitch her as sort of like the...
Anti-Greta Thunberg.
Dark Thunberg.
Yeah, exactly.
Dark Thunberg, for sure.
There's climate change, and she's like...
Actually, there's not climate change.
There should actually be more climate change.
Yeah, yeah, we should.
Yeah, exactly.
Drill, baby, drill.
AFD-affiliated, endorsed by QAnon, COVID denier.
Of course.
She did all of the things.
She did a lot of misinformation, a lot of things that were like, you know, you could easily...
Prove whatever she's saying incorrect if you read the next sentence of the thing that she read.
White nationalist conspiracy theorist hangs out with Stefan Molyneux types.
She just sucks.
Anti-Semitic awful person.
Yeah, just a real wet fart of a human being.
I love that analogy.
I paused because of the look on your face.
You were lit up by that.
It made me really happy.
Wonderful.
So Stephen then goes on to, you know, this is pretty normal.
He just lists violent attacks at the hands of Muslim people to fear-monger and further religiously isolate people from each other and demonize an entire religion.
And then February 22nd, a Syrian refugee stabbed a tourist at a Holocaust memorial in Berlin.
And then there was that one that was just this weekend, wasn't there?
Yeah.
Well, we didn't listen because we don't have all the information, but want to bet?
Yeah.
Want to make a guess?
And this is how you end up when they...
These same people, and this is the far left, the progressive left, they then blame you for division.
We can also blame him for misinformation, too.
Sure.
Yeah, or causing the division.
Huh.
Put a monetary amount on, like, do you think that this is a minority person is, like, very, like...
Yeah, it just front loads everything that he's saying as like, who do you think it is?
Of course.
I just gave you all this other information, all of these other brown men who have done crimes.
Now, here's another crime.
You know, but maybe on the other hand here, turning a new leaf by not actually reporting on it, because that seems to have gotten him in trouble in the past.
After the deposition.
I loved his tone there.
He's like, you know, because I gotta fucking prove shit now.
Now I gotta stop line?
There's lawyers on my ass.
I mean, he doesn't want to find himself in another big-bearded Waterloo deposition.
Yeah, right?
But, yeah, the situation he's talking about was a car that rammed a crowd March 3rd in Manaheim, killing one person and injuring several others.
This was not politically motivated.
It was not religiously motivated.
It was a mentally unwell person who just crashed his car.
Okay.
That's all.
All right.
And I can't wait for him to do an admonish.
Of course he will.
Of course he's going to admonish himself for suggesting that this was a Muslim terror attack.
Well, it's also, these things have nothing to do with, you can't do hate speech.
Oh, that's true, yeah.
He's just, I mean...
You just described another crime.
Thanks.
What other crimes can we talk about?
There's a handful of crimes.
There's still crimes.
There's a lot of crimes.
There are crimes in that country that you don't live in, Stephen.
I'm going to remind him again.
You don't live there, Stephen.
Yep.
Yeah.
While you see your fellow citizens, the people you went to school with, being arrested and shut down for misogynistic views, or, my God, calling an elected official an idiot.
I don't think they share our values.
I'm glad we paused the money on Ukraine.
I think we need a poll from the UN, and I think we need to make this message heard loud and clear.
I really like the work that Vance is doing, and you know what?
I feel like I would be doing all of us a disservice.
We both did.
Unless we really put a stamp on guaranteeing that we can never visit Germany.
I agree.
Which brings us to this week's 7 plus 1. What's this?
You've never heard of 7 plus 1?
You forgot Stefan in the chamber!
7 plus 1 jokes that would get us banned from Germany.
So Stephen's a huge fan of David Letterman.
Oh no.
I am too, actually.
Yeah, I love David Letterman.
He's a charming guy.
He was one of the best interviewers in late-night television, and he continues to be an incredible interviewer and an inspiration for people with beards everywhere.
Looks great.
So good.
7 Plus 1 is a segment that Stephen does from time to time that is basically top tens, where he, you know...
His own private top tens?
Yeah, it's like a rebranded late-night...
There was a time when the show was...
Technically funny.
Like, I mean, it wasn't what it is now.
Like headlines.
Yeah, basically what it is.
Yeah, it's a bit where they tell jokes.
New rules.
And, I mean, the show has evolved to what it is, which is just him being, you know...
Smart.
Just a really gross guy.
Oh, whoops.
But yeah, so I was kind of...
Oh, God, we're going to let him tell jokes, I guess?
Do we hear them?
I'll play a couple that I pulled.
They're really funny, so I didn't include them all.
Okay.
So, I mean...
Y'all ready to laugh?
Hear me with those jokes.
Number seven.
Olaf.
How many Germans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
I don't know.
Nine!
One to screw in the lightbulb and eight to exterminate an entire race of people.
Jokes that will get us banned in Germany, people.
We had to do it.
I actually think Germany is fine with taking responsibility for the atrocities of the past, right?
It's the AFD who wouldn't like that joke.
Yeah, I think Germany is really like, we acknowledge that we have a bad time with this stuff in our past.
And that's why we take it so seriously now.
And if they want to talk about their overcorrecting in some instances, it's something, I guess.
But I really don't think...
That that's the case.
You're weird.
The joke fell apart because nine means something.
No.
Yeah, it means...
And he shouted it...
As if he was Adolf Hitler.
As if he was saying no.
Yeah.
So it was a bad joke anyway.
You know, him and Josh actually put a lot of work into this test.
Yeah, Dennis.
If you could...
Okay.
Yeah.
I'll be more respectful.
How do you tell the difference between a German member of parliament and a pile of festering human excrement?
Oh, I don't know.
Can you...
The corn!
The corn!
That means they're very similar.
What the fuck is that?
Do Germans eat a lot of corn or something?
No.
They look so much like shit.
But the one that you know is shit for real is the one that has corn in it.
Is that really the joke?
Why is there no speed limit on the Autobahn?
I don't know.
Because if you're going to spend your whole day being a giant pussy you want to get there quickly Hmm yeah, I don't even have anything for that one What?
You guys ever hear that Kraftwerk song?
No, what?
The fun, fun, fun on the Autobahn?
Oh, that's kind of nice.
Kind of fun.
This is the last one I'll have us listen to, and this actually is the last clip of the night.
Okay.
Did you hear about Angela Merkel's massage parlor?
Angela Merkel's massage parlor?
Yeah, it's called Guten Tag!
Oh, disrespectful!
She is an elected official!
Somebody needs to lock him up.
Yikes.
Did that one say tug?
Was that what it was?
Guten tag.
Which I believe is like good morning or something.
What is it?
I thought it was like some tug joke.
It was.
It was Angela Merkel's massage parlor.
Yeah, her tug parlor.
Yeah, do they call it guten tag?
Right.
Was that the joke?
Yep.
Guten Tag.
A pun.
Which means good day, good afternoon.
Yeah, but I think they said Guten Tag like a pun.
Yeah, when it's tag.
Tug job.
Yes, yes.
At least that one had the structure of a joke.
Yeah.
A couple of them were just like fully stolen from like Reddit forums that I was searching.
I want to uncover the throwaway account of their like writer.
They don't have a writer, man.
Like, whoever's writing the jokes for Steven.
Steven didn't actually do any of this.
Yeah, he has a throwaway, you know?
That's just about all I can handle this week.
If you disagree with us.
This week was hard.
It was bad.
Yeah, it was long and it was bad.
And we cut out the entire Pam Bondi situation, which I guess I should say he doesn't like...
Yeah, damn it.
And that was the whole...
That was the reveal.
What?
Wasn't it?
He finally opens the binder, and it's just a bunch of, like, I hate Pam Bondi.
I don't like Pam Bondi.
Pam Bondi sucks.
That's the whole binder.
That's what's in there.
Just a whole tirade against a woman.
Yeah.
Which is a normal thing for him to do.
He's just bitter that he was not included in this Epstein Phase 1, and because of that, and because she's a woman, he did say that she is pretty.
Old.
She's 60. Yeah, but he said she looks pretty good for a 60. She does.
It's fine.
I have no problem saying it.
He has no problem with Kash Patel, who again is a QAnon conspiracy theorist who was on over 50 QAnon podcasts.
He doesn't like that Pam Bondi was on Jesse Waters.
I'll agree with him there.
Jesse Waters is a power.
I think that maybe Pam Bondi should stop...
She shouldn't have this position.
If she didn't understand while she was on Jesse Waters the contents of the available Epstein files, she shouldn't have spoken about it.
Totally.
She shouldn't have set up a publicity stunt to release this stuff.
And if Cat Turd wasn't going to be there, or if Cat Turd was, then Steven should have been, in my opinion.
Yeah.
He's talking about that.
Be some influencers who would sell their souls for a dollar.
Oh, yeah.
Talking about that.
We talked about that last week.
How does he feel about...
Not being on the short list of getting his own binder.
Higher rate check.
He mentions her by name and then says...
He says, she's alright.
She probably didn't know it was bullshit.
But everyone else was there taking selfies with it.
Steven, you're going to start selling freeze-thread candy.
I'm just saying that you guys could have had someone who would say...
Went to jail for you?
Sure.
Feel free to convince us otherwise.
Actually, I had one last thing, and you can leave it or not, but the Pizzagate vindication thing I thought was kind of interesting in there, because it's more of the same, where he's talking about these people are going to, the people who talked about Pizzagate are going to be feeling pretty vindicated, the whole Epstein thing, right?
Pizzagate brought to light real sex trafficking, and that Justifies the conspiracy theory.
Yeah, like, putting people's life at risk and, like, waving a gun around inside of a restaurant.
Ruining a small business.
That's a sacrifice he's willing to make.
Like, that guy should feel vindicated.
I thought it was, like, pretty interesting.
But it's, like, more of that same, like, the left says this, but it's, like, now, the left agrees that there's probably markets, and not even probably, that there are markets for this, like, human trafficking.
And then we also agree that, like, We don't like that.
It sucks.
I do like pepperoni pizzas, though.
I love a good pie, man.
That's how you order a boy.
Oh.
Whoops.
And if you disagree...
Oh yeah, I forgot.
I'm trying to convince us otherwise.
Oh Jesus.
I don't know, can I leave that in?
Yes, yes.
Probably.
I think you have to.
Rate and review us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
A free thing to do that really helps us out.
We've dipped into the three point range.
I saw that.
I didn't see any new ones.
Not any unkind ones.
People are just straight up one in us when they get confused by my extended middle finger instead of Stephen's mug in hand.
However, It would be lovely to see your thoughts on our little show.
Call to action.
Yes, thank you.
I wrote that down there.
I didn't write it down.
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Not yet.
It probably is a real site.
I'll check it though.
LouderWithCrowder.net You too, baby.
I've got to invoke you, too.
And go to shrug.club and watch Jared and I, our last episode of Double Salutes.
I'm going to be posting some older episodes, some throwbacks as well.
Nice.
Yeah, yeah.
Come have some fun with that.
Honestly, if we have to suffer through it, you should, too.
And until next time, I'm Byron.
Sorry.
I'm Dennis.
Sorry, my throat was a little gunk.
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