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EPISODE 56: A BRAZILIAN DOLLARS (FEBRUARY 10TH-19TH, 2025)

With the case seemingly settled, the Boys have returned from depositionville to play a bit of present day catch up. And surprise, surprise...Steven has found another way to be a victim.  Hard to do with all the "winning", huh? Like what we're doing?  Want MORE for FREE? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub  Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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Blues.
Rock and roll.
Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast, Louder with Crowder.
My name's Byron, and I'm joined...
Well, it was morning when I wrote this.
It's currently afternoon in studio by Dennis.
I'm here.
Sorry.
It's okay.
It took a bit.
It's a Saturday.
I don't have anything to do.
Oh, okay.
And all the way in occupied Texas, it is Jared.
Guys, what's up?
Okay, man.
Nice to hear from you.
Just as I was sitting here, third record of the day.
Yeah, it is the third time.
Looking around on the internet.
And can you even believe that the video we couldn't find last week, it was on Twitter.
Wait, what was the video?
I don't recall.
The Goon Lord Candles and Flowers Ceremony.
We couldn't find it.
That's from a different show.
It has nothing to do with what we're doing now.
We're not looking at Twitter very often.
And in a post-deposition Crowderverse...
I had my job cut out for me this week, playing catch-up, determining what the temperature was, not the baked potatoes of the people at the Ladder with Crowder Compound.
And not literally, because we all know that they're often ill.
Always ill.
Sick.
Well, I don't know.
Oh, you mean ill, like actually ill?
Like physically ill with fever.
Yeah.
We'll get into it, but I want to start with the moment I felt most personally attacked in quite some time.
Yeah.
Trump is president again.
He's going to make America great again.
Today we celebrate our Independence Day.
Dennis, your face.
Yuck, dude.
That's...
So gross.
Well, before their chiptune strange animal incel anthem, an ER-themed parody played.
I know this is an audio program, and you can't tell much from what I pulled, but just know that it's basically just like a green overlay and some titles mocking the ER opening credits.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're familiar with the show, right?
Yeah, I remember ER. My parents used to watch when I was in elementary school.
Yeah, it's like...
I remember my mom crying when Dr. Green died.
Spoiler alert, and it's actually probably one of the most devastating moments of my young life.
Because, of course, ER, 30 years old, Don't know why they're doing this now.
It's fine.
Not at all relevant.
Kind of a banger theme song.
It is a banger theme song.
It is.
Their entire score is like Masterful.
It's a third character.
It carries you through the ER. Just a wonderful program.
One of my favorite shows of all time.
When I was a young, young kid, I used to sit by myself in the dark in our kitchen dining room area.
You know Dennis?
Uh-huh.
It's my second living room, basically.
While the rest of my family would watch something normal in the living room.
You just hear like, The AFV theme song playing, like, far away?
Basically, yeah.
They were watching, like, normal television programs, sitcoms, things to make you laugh, and instead I was learning about units of epi.
It was like everything to me at the time.
I wanted to be a doctor because of Mark Green.
And look at you now.
I'm a podcaster.
I had a deep crush on Carol Hathaway, Nurse Hathaway.
I don't know who that is.
She's a babe.
One of the first horror films I watched was From Dusk Till Dawn starring George Clooney.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course.
It was his follow-up debut, really.
Step into the spotlight following his exit from ER.
And now, for seemingly no reason, they try to defile my formative memories with this- Yeah, why would they do that to freaking James Newton Howard?
Put some respect on his name, Stephen.
Did he work with Harry Nilsson?
Of course.
Speaking of last night.
What?
We listened to Harry Nelson last night.
Oh, you're right, we did.
It's a weird thing for a bunch of boys to do on a Friday night.
I think it has something to do with the resurgence of medical drama with the return of Noah Wiley to the subgenre on his new breakout hit show, The Pit, on Max.
Have you been watching this?
No.
It's really good.
This is unacceptable behavior, and because of that, today we'll be discussing the February 10th 11th, 18th, and 19th episodes of Crowder with Crowder.
Mostly focusing on the 18th, which is called Winning, Why Trump Has John Oliver and All of Europe Freaking Out, and the 19th Fight, major lawsuit announcement.
We're going to start with the first words of the February 10th show, How Donald Trump Murdered Cancel Culture at the Super Bowl.
But before we do...
I'd like to take a second and thank some of the folks who support us over at Shrug.club.
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Hello, Shrug Nation.
You've entered the Shrug-tuation.
Aren't they the best?
They're the best people I've never met.
Let's keep it that way.
Okay.
I've invited them all over.
No!
Let's not do that.
But I do want to say...
We have been sending out your address.
Shrug.club, the place where all of the things that we do that aren't on this feed live for free.
But you can also support our show there.
It's one of the best ways that you can do it.
That's a couple bucks our way if you think we're doing a good job.
These folks did just that.
Great.
Taru T. Nice.
Taru.
Thank you so much for being part of the Shrug Club.
Thank you kindly.
You piece of shit.
And Sarah W. Sarah W. Really appreciate you.
Second Sarah.
That's another one.
Thank you.
Piece of shit.
No.
No, not Sarah.
Yeah, go to shrug.club if you think we're doing a good job.
And if you want a little bit more of the show.
We're free.
Yeah.
I don't even know what to say.
I've never actually been to her.
Why don't you check it out?
Okay, I'll look at it.
There's video there.
You can watch us meltdown on election night.
Can you watch the moment when a man arrives in my hotel room that's not me?
He can.
And actually, what's kind of fun about that, Dennis, is that when that happened, can you believe that we paid this guy to do that?
And you know what he did to you?
He put a whole new section on Shrug Club just for us.
Called Dennis's Feet.
Nice.
Wow.
That's something else you can get there, folks.
That's so great.
My feet look terrible all the time, so that's awesome.
Yep, go there.
Check it out.
People are paying for it.
Because, of course.
Oh, I'm fine with that!
He is.
He's giving you permission.
I love it.
I love those people.
Thanks, everybody.
And on with the show.
By the way, this is my pimple.
You can thank the ladies here who helped cover it up.
You ever have a pimple?
I think it should be illegal when you're...
In your late 30s.
And you try to get rid of it too early and then it gets angry at you.
Yeah, man.
Everyone.
So, Gerald is captivated by this very strong, insecure, vanity-centric cold open.
Even though Stephen's, the ladies who do his makeup, they did try to cover it up.
It's a very large bump in the center of his head.
It's almost as if he's becoming a unicorn.
But I gotta say, I agree with you, Dennis.
I typically wouldn't poke fun at someone with a pimple.
I wouldn't give a shit.
We all get pimples.
Yeah, yeah.
We're gross humans.
It happens.
It's not even gross.
We're humans.
So oily.
We're slick with oil.
Yeah, we all get that stuff all the time.
But it's where this professional comedian takes it.
He goes farther.
He talks more.
It's like it goes underground.
This is the Harriet Tubman of pimples.
I didn't see it.
It's a sister.
Yeah.
So, acquainting Harriet Tubman to pus trying to escape your skin.
Absolutely get fucked, Stephen.
Awful.
He's like, how can I make this pimple joke racist?
Let's see if we can make this racist within the first 45 seconds of the show.
What you don't understand about the oils of my skin is that they are incredibly racist.
I ooze racism, okay?
And sometimes I try to get it out a little bit faster and it gets all swollen and red.
So gross.
Yum, yum, yum.
The weirdest thing is this is the question of the day.
Have you ever had deep acne?
That's the question of the day?
That's the question of the day.
He wants people to comment about if they've had a pimple that was not ready to be extracted, I guess.
I don't know.
Oh my word.
What a dumb thing to focus on.
Hey guys, you ever been a little plugged up?
Yeah, you guys ever make a bunch of little rabbit poops?
I mean, we talk a lot about how this isn't a comedy show.
This is like a clear attempt at comedy.
Oh, it totally was.
It's just like...
Can you hit the foghorn?
I don't have a foghorn.
I have a...
Also, who was that who said a sister?
It was Josh.
It sounded like Ahoy Guy.
It did sound a little like Ahoy Guy.
Interesting.
We heard a lot about...
We heard a lot from Josh not too long ago.
Yeah, we did.
You know, we're going to maybe talk more about that another time at Shark.com.
Oh, yeah, maybe.
Disappointing, huh?
This whole thing, pretty disappointing so far, right?
Yeah.
Fuck, we didn't talk about that at all.
I'm realizing that this is the first time that I'm going to hear anything from Stephen post-election about the election.
Oh, really?
Everything we've done since then that I've been a part of has been the deposition.
That's kind of true.
I'm interested in hearing about it.
You're not going to hear much from this episode, although we did sit through the entire program and there is plenty to talk about.
It has been a couple weeks now, and I think the present might be more useful to discuss.
I do, however, I want to share the guy's take on the Super Bowl.
Great.
The big game.
Awesome.
He's going to say that he couldn't understand what Kendrick was saying.
Because, of course, you know, Donald Trump's election erased all of the wokeness at the big game.
Thank goodness.
Finally.
Jeez.
Snoop Dogg and Tom Brady stop hate commercials aside.
Oh, no.
Right next to the Nazi Kanye commercial.
Ah, yes, that one.
They didn't bring that up.
Huh.
Wonder why.
Weird.
What were their feelings about Kendrick Lamar Duckworth's performance with SZA and, of course, Mustard.
Love Mustard.
At the halftime show.
Kendrick Lamar.
I had no idea how tiny Kendrick Lamar was.
He's a little person.
I didn't know that he was that small.
For a second I was like, Mostaf?
Not because all black people look alike, but because they're both very tiny.
Kevin Hart?
Could be.
Alright, so Gerald couldn't help himself.
They gave him a hard courtesy laugh on there.
Of course.
He also may have written in some racist dog whistle response.
Name another short black person and I'll die laughing.
Yeah, they'll love that.
Mugsy bugs!
Black people to other black people.
Great.
Great.
Also, they did talk about his flare jeans, 2003 Target style, and it's just another example of how they are not keeping up with culture or fashion.
Not at all.
People are fucking pumped about those jeans.
Yeah.
They cost $1,200, those jeans.
Yes, they're great.
But yeah, rewinding a little bit, Gerald's take, and I guess just their take in general.
Okay.
Things get wild, wild.
They had this whole thing in the halftime show.
Again, they're missing the fact that the American public there cheered Donald Trump and booed Taylor Swift.
We'll get to that in a second.
Where it was meant to be ironic that, hey, this is your culture now.
Your culture belongs to us.
If you were an alien who landed on Earth and watched the Super Bowl halftime show, you would think that hoodrat, head bob culture doing the crip walk is what most Americans do as opposed to understanding that it is a very small, unrespected subset.
Mutation!
It's your uncle, Sam.
And this is the Great American Game!
No, no, no, no, no!
Too loud!
Too reckless!
Too ghetto!
Mr. Lamont!
Correct.
Did Steve not realize that...
Let's take this bit by bit here.
Unsurprisingly, they were thrilled that Taylor was booed and Trump was applauded, when, of course, in reality, it was both.
For both.
Of both.
For both.
Yes.
Stephen clearly also missed the point, you know, claiming the racist stereotypical feelings towards black folks as his, you know, too loud, reckless, and ghetto.
He's hooked by the bait.
Hard.
So hard.
This is not your culture.
Your culture belongs to us.
Is that what he said?
Yeah.
Yeah, your culture belongs to us now.
That was not the...
No, not at all.
Also, pointing out really quick, not like us won five Grammy Awards.
Not like I give a fuck about the Grammys.
The most, I think, for one song...
Like, ever.
Yeah, and it also had 262.9 million plays on YouTube alone.
Yeah, but Drake is suing him over it.
Yeah, so we don't even need to talk about the Easter eggs surrounding the Drake Kendrick beef, which of course I am on the side of Drake, because he's cooler.
So cool.
I loved him in Degrassi.
I like him, and I think, well, maybe that's why Steven's so pissed.
He maybe is pro-Drake.
I thought that they were going to bring Rick the Shooter out onto the stage instead of Serena Williams.
Oh, yeah.
Well, all of that is wildly entertaining.
The performance, especially the Hey Drake, or Here You Like I'm Young, masterfully choreographed.
He looked into all of our souls, but it was only searching for one man's.
And I think he found him immediately.
It was kind of amazing.
The Great American Game.
This concept was a multifaceted metaphor from the stage being designed to resemble a PlayStation controller symbolizing the idea of control and power dynamics in American society.
Backed up by the squid game masks, all of this to comment on societal rules, expectations, and the struggle for success in America, particularly for black Americans.
Throughout the performance, Samuel L. Jackson's Uncle Sam character, which was a pleasant surprise.
I agree.
Nice to see him pop up.
He was repeatedly telling Kendrick to tighten up.
And to play the game correctly, you know, representing societal pressures to conform.
Again, Stephen didn't catch any of that.
Not at all.
Which is really interesting because this is exactly what Stephen was doing in his commentary of this.
Yeah.
He was the villain.
Uh-huh.
Listen to your Uncle Sam, Kendrick.
Pull your pants up.
I really liked that guy who was telling him to act better.
The complexities of race in America were shown by having an all-black cast of dancers, which Stephen was upset by.
I see Stephen do the jump through his leg trick.
Too top-heavy.
This all-black cast of dancers were wearing red, white, and blue outfits, which I should point out were either long-sleeved sweatshirts or hoodies, which will matter more in a minute.
Unfortunately, it will.
Emphasizing not the outfits.
But the color of their outfits emphasized black culture's role in shaping American identity, saying America was built by black people.
Literally.
No, it was built by hardworking American whites.
Slave owners.
Dancers formed a living American flag around Kendrick, you know, symbolizing the contributions of black Americans who built the nation.
Kendrick referenced 40 acres and a mule in his lyrics, alluding to the unfulfilled promises made to freed slaves after the Civil War.
I would have known that if I would have I understood what he said.
We turned the TV up all the way, just a bunch of marbles coming out of that young man's mouth.
I heard TV off, so I did that.
Yeah, Kendrick did tell us to turn the TV off, so that's exactly what I did.
He also said mustard, and damn, did I make a mess.
So yeah, this wonderful performance, which, one of my favorites in a long time.
Well, I mean, the only one I liked better was the Justin Timberlake, Janet Jackson one.
- Yeah, because he's got. - But no, it was a fantastic, fantastic performance.
And it was cool because, you know, it challenged traditional representations of patriotism.
I mean, not for everybody.
Really challenged racists.
They were upset by this.
Yes.
And highlighted contradictions in American power structures.
I think most racists just put their fingers over their ears.
Can't hear you.
Well, the strangest thing is I heard zero reports of satanic rituals, so they should be thrilled.
Oh, yeah.
Usually they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That guy stepped weird.
Or the left shark is actually the left-hand path of the devil or something.
Yeah, the 40 acres refers to Satan's underground caves.
And the mule, the donkey.
The Democrats.
Oh, thank you.
The mule represents Yeah, there you go.
They're not thrilled.
After commenting on the physical size of Kendrick Lamar, they reference his popularity, implying that he should basically get back in line and keep his head down.
I see someone who is the largest artist or among the largest artists out there right now performing, being supported to cheers from some people, but I also see someone who's wearing out his welcome.
Can we do away with this idea that if you don't like Ghetto, and yes, ghetto, and I say this to someone who likes hip-hop, but I also know that it's not good for your brain.
What?
What the fuck is he saying?
He said that hip-hop is not good for your brain.
Hip-hop is bad for your brain?
Yeah, I actually tried to look up statistics about, like, wait a second.
Is hip-hop and rap music bad for your brain?
Once you get below 100 BPM, it actually starts slowing your brainwaves.
That's a Houston sound, the slab sound, boys.
Slow, loud, and banging.
Get a double cup with that DJ's screw and just go down a couple octaves.
Sometimes I feel embarrassed when I'm like, he must be referencing a real study when he says that.
I don't even know why I wrote this into my notes.
Apparently studies show that rap music can help reduce symptoms of depression and anxiety.
Oh, really?
Yeah, and it's a great creative stimulation activity.
It relieves stress.
Cognitively also stimulates your brain.
Nice, dude.
It doesn't seem like it's bad for your brain.
Hip-hop is bad for your brain.
The only thing I could think of is like...
You know, Steven and these guys, they're totally fine with violent action movies.
They actually love it.
But for some reason, rap music, like alluding to anything, it makes Steven feel like he's going to get knockout gamed just listening to it.
Right, exactly.
So it's uncomfortable for him.
Yeah.
You know, Steven, he does a quick swerve from the idea that he's racist for having these feelings immediately.
Confirming that he is racist.
Okay.
Can we do away with this idea that white Americans hate black culture?
No, no, hold on a second.
It's not like white Americans rejected wholesale Diana Ross, The Supremes, The Temptations, Johnny Mathis.
I mean, for crap, blues, rock and roll, Motown.
Just look at it.
There are plenty of successful black artists.
Michael Jackson, come on.
The most recognizable faces on earth in the 1990s were Michael Jackson.
I believe Michael Jordan and Mike Tyson.
Mission Control, you can bring that up.
Americans have no...
We are the only country that will support our own black athletes if we're white.
In other nations, you think in Africa they're supporting white athletes?
I mean, they don't really have a deep talent pool compared to the United States here.
And we're the only country that will support someone from another country at a sporting event if we like them more as an individual.
Americans...
Have overwhelmingly embraced and supported black.
And in many cases, of course, rightfully so.
Better dancers in general.
They sing quite well.
All of them know how to play the bass.
You know what we didn't like?
I think it's the Super Bowl with most families watching with children still up and girls that have almost no clothes on.
So let's knock that one out really quick.
Sweatshirts.
Literally sweatshirts?
Some midriff sometimes on the ladies.
And that is enough for Gerald to comment that they were wearing hardly anything?
Hardly no clothes.
Come on.
Yeah, holy buckets, man.
Like, I had to watch it again, because, like, I mean, sometimes shows are edgy.
Sure.
And it's hot as heck.
I get horny for it.
Okay.
Yeah.
But that's a silly comment, and it proves that Gerald didn't watch the performance at all.
Well, I also, most of that clip was just Stephen being like, listen, listen, listen.
I have a black friend.
He did that for the country.
On behalf of the country, we like black people.
Also, I found myself just now Googling most recognizable faces of the late 90s.
Okay.
Which is what he wanted Mission Control to pull up.
Yeah, apparently.
Got Leonardo DiCaprio, Cindy Crawford, Julia Roberts, Britney Spears.
Oh, here, Kate Moss.
Okay, Jennifer Aniston.
Okay.
Brad Pitt.
Okay.
Barrymore.
Will Smith.
There we go.
We finally found one black person on the list.
And it wasn't even someone that he had mentioned.
No, and that's actually it on the long list of people here.
Ryan Phillippe made the list.
Great.
Awesome.
For God's sake.
That's fantastic.
And also, maybe they didn't wholesale reject black people during the periods of time that Stephen is referencing, you know, jazz and rock and roll, all of the other things that were co-opted and stolen and expanded on by white people.
He referenced the Supremes.
They didn't experience any sort of racism issues.
They were some of the most valued and respected musicians at the time, and they were.
He's also, I think that, I mean, obviously I know that you're going to be covering more of this, but I think that he's talking about this with a huge idea of survivorship bias.
Sure.
Like, you're describing the black artists who made it through the gauntlet of racism.
Exactly.
It doesn't mean they didn't experience the gauntlet.
And it doesn't mean there weren't tons of amazing, successful artists that were shunned just because they were black.
Didn't get a chance.
Yeah.
The Supremes, they experienced significant racial discrimination while touring, especially in the South.
They were forced to use separate facilities marked colored and drink from dirty water fountains during bus trips.
And Johnny Mathis, huge obstacle as he encountered racism while performing just like the Supremes.
Even in Las Vegas, he was forced to stay over the railroad tracks in the colored section, even though he was playing like one of these hotels.
He was like a star.
Not allowed to stay there, but has to, you know.
No, and he even received death threats before performances in the South.
One example here.
There was a time when I was in the South singing and someone came to me before the show and said, there's been a threat on your life.
Someone had phoned in and said they were going to shoot you if you go on stage.
Okay.
Sounds like a patriot.
And then Michael Jackson that Gerald throws in.
Of course.
I didn't know this.
Michael was attacked in an antique store that was owned by a man with ties to the Ku Klux Klan.
Here's a little clip from Questlove Supreme, Questlove's podcast with the Jacksons, Tito, Jackie, and Marlon.
He went into this, Michael went into this shop.
Oh, antique shop.
Antique shop.
Down south.
Tell them what happened.
Yeah, because Michael looked like antique, so the security was with him.
So Bill said, I'm going to go to the restaurant right quick.
And the owner of the store, I don't know if he called the police or whatever, he thought Michael was trying to steal stuff out of the store.
He didn't know who he was.
And he got a gun.
And then Bill's, and they took Michael somewhere, and Bill went around looking for Michael.
Looking for Michael and Jackie.
I forgot some of this stuff.
You took Michael to the back room somewhere and tied him down.
Michael's in the back room somewhere.
Wait, wait.
What year was this?
In the back shed.
This is like in the late 70s.
It is the South.
We're looking all over at Michael.
and they had him tied down in the back shed, it's almost like the Klan was gonna take him away or somewhere, you know, they were saving him for that.
- What?
- Yeah.
- What?
- Yeah.
- Oh my God. - He was forced into the back room, tied up.
This was when his bodyguard was going to the bathroom or something.
Just a year later, despite the success of his 1979 album, Off the Wall, It received only two Grammy nominations, and both in the urban category.
There was an urban category?
There was an urban category!
Yeah, that's what Tyler the Creator wins it, and he's like, I really wish you guys would stop doing that.
That's wild.
It is pretty crazy, honestly.
It's so fucking, like, just brain dead on one end, tone deaf on the other.
It's just, there's no fucking...
You can't respect these people.
And Keith Urban can't even get it.
Are you kidding me?
It sucks.
It's in my name!
So, yeah, like you said, Dennis, these artists are examples of people who went through the gauntlet and got out the other side having success.
Exactly.
And even then, insane to see that about Michael Jackson.
Yeah.
I think it'd be really hard for them to find...
If we looked at every one of those artists they mentioned, you probably have a story like this for all of them.
Of course.
You know what I mean?
They are the ones that paved the path for progress.
And I think all of this, these people...
These artists have nothing to do with Kendrick Lamar except for the fact that they are obviously black musicians.
And he's just using this to say, I have a black friend.
That's basically all that it is.
He's like, listen, I don't hate Kendrick because he's black because I like these other black artists.
He's just trying to say, I'm not racist.
I'm not racist.
Actively being racist while he's doing it.
They have this idea that they are making the culture, but like, you know, put a fucking hundred monkeys with typewriters in a room, like one of them might get a sentence off.
Controversial take here There's no soul in that party, so creating art is very difficult for them.
Art is bad for your brain, actually.
Yeah, and it turns out that if it is good art, then it, like, fucks your brain up.
I guess because it probably turns you into a Marxist or something.
Oh, sure.
It transes you, and left culture, which is the only good culture, as far as, like, art and things like that are concerned, in my opinion.
Seems like it, yeah.
What am I going to watch?
The Big Bang Theory again?
Chuck Lorre?
The story is the most fence-sitting bullshit out there.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but bazinga.
Yeah, bazinga, bazinga, bazinga.
But there's no friction there.
There's nothing going on with it.
So, I don't know.
I'm not into it.
With the Kendrick Lamar performance, I think we're so upset.
Obviously, they are upset.
But it's not for them, and that's okay.
Yeah.
Some country artist who played the Super Bowl or something, I've never ever thought about it beyond that moment.
It's like, oh, I don't like this.
They all do.
That's it, though.
I'm done.
I don't feel like I need to talk about it anymore.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't affect me anymore.
It's no different than if someone hands me a...
They said, here's my new single.
Will you listen to it?
And it was the disturbed single I got at Hastings on a cassette.
And they said, hey, here's this.
If I didn't like it, I'd just go...
I would just go, okay, I don't wanna...
I have this now.
I wouldn't be like, excuse me, what the fuck?
Yeah.
Excuse me?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
What in the hell?
You know what you could have done?
You could have gotten...
There's two sides on this cassette tape, and this is like a direct complaint that I heard from people talking about this 16 minutes of television.
You know, they could have just put it on your tape.
They could have just put a different artist on the other side and split the real estate there.
Kendrick could do seven minutes, and then this other guy could do nine.
And it would be, again, Keith Urban, because...
He's the king of urban music.
Which brings me to February 11th, Golf of America Day.
Why Trump's renaming spree is more important than you think.
Amazing.
I have whiplash from the winning at such breakneck speed.
I tricked him out because Gerald knows I have a bad neck and back and everything.
You were concerned because you're a good person and I used it against you.
I hope you've learned this lesson.
I have, yeah.
I don't think he has, because I think he still is actively shelling things for Stephen.
Yeah.
I think that this is a clear example of...
Because there was a genuine concern in Gerald's voice where he's like, oh, what happened?
Like he thought that Steven, who is a terrible actor and Gerald doesn't watch movies.
So it's easy to determine what is real and not.
But yeah, this is just a lesson to never be kind to Steven.
And I just wanted to be mean for a second and to highlight Steven's weird, I'm ill or injured thing, which I think it has to do with attention.
Sure.
I think it's something like a neglected child would do.
Like Munchausen?
Like the person at school who would always have a sprained wrist.
Totally.
It's because at home they're not getting attention.
They're not getting what they need.
Sure.
I think that maybe Stephen experienced a little bit of that as a child.
Maybe.
It's kind of continuing on through today.
As a child actor, I could see that.
Huh.
That's all that we're going to listen to that episode.
Great.
Jumping to February 19th, 2025. Fight.
Major lawsuit announcements.
Oh, no.
All right.
I can't be sipping that long today because today we are picking a fight.
That's what today is.
We are picking a fight and rumble.
And by the way, Donald Trump's company is officially suing, is it the government, entire government, or the judge in Brazil?
Might as well be both.
Yeah, pretty much the entire government of Brazil.
This is a big tech suit.
This is unprecedented.
This will set the tone going forward for Google, for Apple, for YouTube, what they want to do.
Play by.
The rules of foreign invaders, ideological invaders, or the American Constitution.
So...
This is going to be one of those Rumble infomercial, you know, company line towing episodes because, of course, you know how important Rumble is.
They're going to set the tone for all these future lawsuits from real companies.
They don't really know much about what's going on or comprehend what is either.
I'll explain it briefly.
On February 19th, 2025, Rumble, along with Trump Media and Technology Group, TMTG, which...
Truth.
Social.
They filed a lawsuit against Brazilian Supreme Court Judge Alexandra de Morales.
We should pitch that.
The Supreme Court.
Alexander de Morales.
Not the entire Brazilian government.
They're saying it might as well be.
So a single judge?
One single Supreme Court judge.
Might as well be the whole country.
Might as well, yeah.
In the U.S. District Court of the Middle District of Florida, that's where the case was filed.
You know, Gerald corrects the point, but confirms again that they don't know what they're doing.
Captain Morgan, CEO, I saw them give you a note there.
I guess we're only suing.
Morales.
Morales.
I didn't see all the letters.
Let me be really clear.
Today, Rumble and the parent company of Truth Social, Donald Trump's company, is suing a faggot judge in Brazil.
That's the joke, huh?
Yeah, you can dump that.
I'm sorry.
Look, look.
Morales, what am I implying?
I'm implying that you suck.
Hey, that's what I'm saying about you right now.
So come over here stateside and tell us what we can and can't say.
I know you'll try and work through the legal system, engage in lawfare.
No, let's hash this out.
The problem is not just Mariah's.
It's people in American government who are willing to do the bidding of a totalitarian communist regime effectively.
Why is Stephen so mad at that person?
Well, remember he's got a Brazilian girlfriend, but...
Did she cheat on him with this thing?
I don't know.
Is that what happened?
I don't know.
I mean, he is rather delusional to think that he can call out a Supreme Court judge in another country and expect a response.
Also, cool slur, but then also beeps, sucks dick.
This is the most, like, cowardice thing in the world to do.
Yeah.
It's such a dumb bully thing.
If you disagree with this, I don't even know what they're talking about.
Well, I'll explain here.
But just do it based on that.
Yeah.
Ad hominem, like the hardest ad hominem I've ever felt in my entire life.
Wild.
All of it is choreographed, if no one's caught on yet.
On YouTube, they did the YouTube dump button, which again is nothing more than an excuse to funnel the audience towards Rumble, who is now their financial partner.
So they have to say something explicitly homophobic, transphobic, or racist in order to trigger the YouTube dump button.
Every episode at least once to funnel people to rumble.
It's a business...
The hate that they're saying is for business.
That's so gross.
It is proven even further by censoring something like Sucks Dick, which would come at the tail end of the YouTube dump button.
So all of this is pre-planned.
Yeah.
I don't think the show's live.
You think it's pre-recorded?
Possibly, how else are you live censoring cuss words?
I know that there might be technology to do that, but...
I mean, there'd have to be a delay.
They're just shooting a delay?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like 10, 15 seconds?
I could not see them shooting a delay, though.
I just...
Real quick, any Shrugtuation, Shrug Clubbers...
Hello, Shrug Nation.
I have a task for you, okay?
This is our Shrug Club undercover.
Okay.
S... No.
You're trying to do an SCU thing?
Yeah, the SCU. The SCU, okay.
I want you to...
Look for clocks or watches in Steven Crowder's shows and compare them to the real-time stream time.
I mean, sometimes he does the equivalent of holding up the fake newspaper.
He'll have a CNN broadcast going on to use it as a timestamp.
If you see someone check the watch, pause it, see what the watch says, and look at that on real-time.
Let's see.
It doesn't matter.
This is just choreographed hate, and it's...
It's really gross.
Yeah, it's really gross.
But back to the lawsuit, it stems from Maria's order for Rumble to suspend the account of a user referred to as Political Dissonant A, which Rumble and Trump Media, what is it?
TMTG, since we're Teenage Mutant Teenage Girls.
No, Trump Media and Technology Group, they argue it violates U.S. free speech protections and sovereignty, which it kind of might.
I don't know.
I don't know what another country can say about it.
I'm really confused.
The request is really odd.
Basically, this Brazilian Supreme Court justice is saying they have at least two people who have left Brazil, fled Brazil.
They're actively being sought by Interpol to be brought back to face charges.
They're in the United States, and they're still broadcasting on Rumble.
Those people who are supposed to be?
Yes.
And the judge is saying that you need to get rid of their accounts because they're broadcasting to people in Brazil.
So, I mean, it's kind of an interesting situation.
Did Rumble do that?
Things escalated a bit today.
February 22nd, so Stephen knows nothing about this in the current episode that we're talking about.
The judge ordered the suspension of Rumble in Brazil.
In Brazil, not in the U.S., okay.
So within 24 hours for noncompliance with his demands, which include appointing a legal representative in Brazil, and they're asking to pay pending fines.
So I don't know where this is going to go necessarily.
This judge from another country is setting rules for this website's operation in that other country.
Or else they will suspend the service to the entire country.
Which I guess seems reasonable.
I just don't get it.
Steven is not a citizen of that other country?
Yes.
Rumble is not a...
I think they technically do.
But they're not based there.
But if you're operating in another country, that other country has those rules.
Yeah, and our First Amendment doesn't apply to another country.
Yeah, our Constitution.
And they're suing them in a Florida court.
Because you know who lives in Florida, right?
Yeah.
Paulo, the guy that we talked about a couple months back.
I just don't get it.
It's like me being mad at my neighbor for the rules they set for their children.
Yeah, I mean, Rumble can either remove this user or not be in that country.
Yeah, it's up to that country.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's up to Rumble to say that they would like or will not.
Is this like a globalist thing?
Okay.
Again, we're not going to talk about the situation that came out today, but I'm sure Stephen will talk about it on Monday.
I really don't want to keep talking about it because I honestly just don't really give a fuck.
In third chair?
It's not Josh.
No?
No.
In third chair, you know him.
You love him.
Funniest man alive.
You can go and see him at the Bricktown Comedy Club in Tulsa Thursday, February 20th.
Or the Funny Bone St. Louis on the 21st.
Mr. Nick Dip.
How are you, sir?
That's this week.
It's this week?
I can't believe it.
Yes.
This Thursday and Friday.
Friday.
See you there, kids.
What was the question?
How am I? Oh, tremendous.
Good.
Filled with AIDS. Got you.
Did you say filled with AIDS? Filled with AIDS, yeah.
I was just going to give that joke some room to breathe.
Funny.
Yeah, really good.
We should go see Nick Dipp sometime.
I'd love to, actually.
Did it just say Spokane?
No, Tulsa and St. Louis.
Yeah, don't plug his dates.
It's over now.
Okay, good.
It was that week.
On February 16th, you know this guy, John Oliver.
I love John Oliver.
He did his show the way he always does.
This specific episode was called Trump 2.0.
I think you said you saw it.
I saw it as well.
That's my little lefty dopamine hit of the week.
It's just kind of fun to hear some guy say all the things you feel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
On this episode, he discussed the first four weeks of Donald Trump's second term as president, the strategy behind some of the choices his administration has made, and why it is indeed fuck time.
Yeah, you heard him right.
It's fuck time.
This episode is the equivalent of Stephen's, not John's.
This is the equivalent of movie day in school.
Like they can't write anything?
Yeah.
They wheel the TV in.
Basically we roll the TV cart.
Bill!
Bill!
Remember Bill Nye.
You didn't have Bill Nye on your movie card?
What was your TV card?
I remember watching Smoke Signals.
I love that movie.
I remember watching a show called Brother Future.
I actually don't know that.
I don't remember it, but I feel like it definitely was pretty racist.
Is that like a Roots knockoff?
It was a guy who sold stolen...
I haven't seen it.
I don't remember it, and I might be misremembering it, so if I apologize.
But it's about a guy who's selling stolen Nintendos out of the back of a car, and then he gets hit by a car, and goes back to slave times to be like, hey man, it could be worse.
You could still be a slave, or something like that.
Interesting.
Yeah, and I might be totally misremembering it, and I hope not.
But it sounds like a show I shouldn't have watched.
It's like a sixth grader.
So we're getting away from my analogy.
Anyways, yeah, TV cart.
I gotta add mine.
I have to throw one.
Oh, of course.
What do you got?
They busted out the Laserdisc when I was in like third, fourth grade.
And we watched Ben Affleck, which I think was his first movie.
He called The Voyage of the Mimi.
From, like, 1984. Excuse me.
And it was, like, an interactive movie.
Like, you could kind of, like, make decisions.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, yeah, it was Laserdisc, so there was, like, some interactivity there.
Oh, my God, a 13-episode American educational television program.
Yeah, we watched all of it over, like, two days, basically, with a substitute.
Over two days.
It's a choose-your-own-adventure, Laserdisc.
Hey, guys, we're going to binge a show over two days.
All right.
So we've definitely gotten...
Away from my initial analogy.
Okay, I got it, though.
But all I'm saying is, like, Stephen heard a 30-minute John Oliver segment, and he goes, there's our day!
There's our day.
And the day after their coverage of that, they continued talking, and it kind of became John Oliver week.
Yesterday, we debunked John Oliver's incoherent ramblings about Donald Trump 2.0.
Some of it was incoherent, and some of it was deliberately deceitful.
There have been some developments, which brings us to our newest segment.
I am a pussy.
And that is frankly a wild thing to say.
I'm telling you, I am a pussy.
Oh, sorry if this is how you found out, but I'm telling you that I am a pussy god.
First, I don't think John Oliver would be mad.
He probably did say, I am a pussy, right?
Probably.
He's so self-deprecating.
I don't think they had to try very hard to make that.
They could have found a clip of him being like, I'm a fucking dumb UK person.
Just kind of continuation of their laziness.
I have some thoughts about this week of John Oliver-focused content, specifically why Steven isn't focusing on this again, because this is not the first time that he's done a John Oliver takedown.
He has a lot of experience in it.
But yeah, to highlight exactly what my point is, We're going to jump back one day to his coverage.
Yesterday.
Yes.
Which was February 18th.
Winning.
Why Trump has John Oliver and all of Europe freaking out.
Here's a collection of Stevens setting up a victim narrative in real time.
So this is pretty interesting.
And John Oliver is always wrong.
I expect this show to be completely removed because every time we critique John Oliver, his talent agency directly claims that it's a copyright violation and gets it removed.
I'm willing to bet it's because of the many, many millions of plays critiquing him.
And this, if you're watching on YouTube, please go watch on Rumble and share the Rumble link.
Why?
There's a huge chance that YouTube will take it down like our last two John Oliver segments.
John Oliver's talent agency directly, right?
These claims are made by Avalon.
Manually, they claim it's a violation of fair use.
This is the only person who does it.
They cannot handle the criticism.
And maybe it's because some of our John Oliver bit, they do pretty well.
We're going to do this.
This rebuttal and it's going to be removed because the left does not want open conversation.
For more proof, see the fact that John Oliver never actually debates anyone.
I don't believe he ever actually has.
Download the Rumble app.
It's the best way to stay in touch.
I know this episode is going to be removed from YouTube, or at least most of it.
At least five mentions that what they're actively about to do, doing, and have done will be removed from YouTube.
Also, John Oliver isn't a debater.
He's a writer and a host.
I wouldn't expect him to debate anybody.
Why would he?
Does Steven ever actually debate anybody?
Because he has ideas that are different than mine.
Okay, that's fine.
A lot of people...
A bunch of 18-year-olds, and he's like...
Change my mind.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I jumped over that.
So, yeah, that was just kind of a collection of him setting up this victim narrative.
Get ready.
And we could easily jump back to the next episode, but I thought while we're here, we should probably listen to a little bit of his thoughts about the John Oliver Trump 2.0 program, which you've seen.
Jared, I don't think you have, right?
No.
This is their feelings on last week, tonight's broadcast.
Okay.
He leads it off with either a bunch of false premises or outright lies and misrepresentations to try and set the tone so you believe he has some credibility, which he doesn't.
All references, links in the description.
You probably have to watch this on Rumble because it'll be removed from YouTube.
Here, let's lead this off.
We have to dive straight into our main story tonight.
The fact that Donald Trump is, once again, President of the United States.
Sorry if this is how you found out.
Honestly, I'm not nuts about it either.
Incredibly, it has been less than a month since Trump's inauguration, but it already feels like an eternity.
In just the past four weeks, he's pardoned or commuted the sentences of January 6th rioters, withdrew the US from both the Paris Accords and the WHO, announced plans to take over Gaza, issued an executive order trying to un- Misrepresentation.
a four-star general with the host of Fox and Friends and Secretary of Defense and announced 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.
Okay, so if you believe that, that would be one way to see it, but let me reframe that.
Like "Brrr-br-brr b-brr... Serpentation." Fucking loser.
I'm sorry.
Oh, man.
Now he's trying to do our job over that?
Come on.
Yeah.
So he does slow it down and walk through these points, so I thought we'd walk through the slowdown points he walks through.
Okay, nice.
Sound good?
It was when there were one set of footsteps that I carried Stephen.
Pick him up.
President Trump pardoned non-violent January 6th protesters who were denied due process, as all Americans are entitled to.
Didn't he just claim that he pardoned a bunch of January 6th protesters?
He didn't say anything about violent or non-violent?
So, Donald Trump did not explicitly say...
Violent or non-violent.
He definitely did.
No, he did a sweeping pardon that included convictions of violent and serious crimes.
Of course.
Assaulting police officers and sometimes seditious conspiracy.
There was 14 people commuted and not fully pardoned.
Sure.
These were Stuart Rhodes, Joseph Biggs.
Tario was technically fully pardoned.
I don't have the full list, but of the 14, it was just a combination of Oath Keepers and what formerly known as the Proud Boys, because, of course, that church now owns the rights to the Proud Boys.
But even John Oliver just said that Trump pardoned a bunch of the people.
He didn't say specifically violent.
It doesn't matter.
It was a sweeping pardon.
It was, yeah.
If you were Jan 6 related, cool, you're out.
Glad you're defending that, Stephen.
I back the blue!
He withdrew the United States from international climate scams, and by the way, the WHO, the organization that claims Taiwan doesn't even exist.
A lot of these are personal preference issues, so I don't see how they could be misrepresentations.
He withdrew from those things, and Stephen thinks that that was justified.
Yeah, I mean, but when you withdraw from the Paris Climate Accords, like Trump did during his first term, it does mean that we're no longer bound to limit global temperature rising or assist in that.
You know, we've ceased our commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
We've halted contributions to Green Climate Fund, which is there to mitigate and adapt developing countries to climate change impacts, which is kind of a big deal.
And we no longer are required to report on progress in meeting emissions reduction targets, which is just isolation as shit.
It's bad.
But again, I mean...
How is that a misrepresentation or false?
Yeah, it sounds like he said, hey, we were through from those things, and Stephen is saying, I'm glad we did.
Which is, that is within his rights.
Those are two...
Different statements that are not connected.
I mean, they are connected, but they don't matter too much.
He stated that his administration's intent is to apply birthright citizenship as intended by the drafters themselves.
Misrepresentation?
We went over that recently.
Their interpretation of birthright citizenship is, in my opinion, incorrect and based on cherry-picking and excluding cases they disagree with.
Of course.
Just another example of how they don't care about the law.
It's important that the executive branch interprets the law now.
That one actually really did bum me out to hear that out loud.
Pointed out that DEI has no place in organizations like the FAA or military where lives are actually at stake.
That's not what he said.
No, and also, clearly, Trump's adjustments surrounding DEI has positively affected the airline industry, right?
Like, things are going totally fine.
They're great.
Planes aren't just falling out of the sky.
No, they aren't.
Of course.
The helicopters aren't colliding with aircrafts.
Yeah.
Remember, like, the plane runs on Google software and the pilot was like, do a barrel roll?
Uh-huh.
Yeah, peppy.
Yeah.
For one, I don't think we can blame a lot of that stuff on Trump yet.
Of course not.
I think that's inappropriate.
But I think what's hilarious, I'm just addressing that Stephen is saying that John Oliver was lying.
John Oliver said that Trump blamed the...
Plane crash on DEI. Which he literally said.
The DC one.
He flat out blamed it on DEI. Yeah.
What's Stephen talking about here?
I don't know.
Something else?
He's going pretty fast, and so are we.
Of course he is.
This is an interesting one.
And yes, he did release billions of gallons of water to Californians who couldn't access it because of a fish that doesn't swim.
The fish that we've talked about that can't swim that was...
Whatever.
That doesn't fucking matter.
President Trump, though, did something that did matter.
He ordered the release of water from two dams in...
Central California.
Central California.
On July 24th, through an executive order titled Emergency Measures to Provide Water Resources in California and Improve Disaster Response in Certain Areas, implying that this would have helped LA and their fire issues.
2.2 billion gallons of water were released from these reservoirs.
None of the water reached Southern California or Los Angeles.
It was released into areas that did not connect to Southern California's water system.
The water was essentially wasted as it was released during a wet winter season when it wasn't needed.
It wasn't just useless.
It was actually damaging because it removed water from a reservoir that could help farmers with irrigation in a time when they actually did need it.
But yeah, instead much of the water seeped into the ground after being released into dry areas.
And what's left is evaporating in a lake bed right now.
You know, I'm self-employed.
I don't make a lot of money in the winter.
What I do to combat that is I like to spend...
All of my savings in the summertime.
Great.
Yeah.
Cool.
So that way, I don't have any in the winter.
Oh, wait, shit.
That's not...
I shouldn't do that.
Did you figure that out that quickly?
Like, all you had to do is talk it out loud?
Wow.
Yeah, he literally was like, oh, you're saving that water for later?
Fuck your savings.
Unplug it.
We're selling that to Nestle, motherfucker.
Yeah, exactly.
Why'd you flood the tub?
A hurricane's coming.
I'm gonna unplug it anyway.
Okay.
I'll let you're president.
And replaced a compromised general with the first Secretary of Defense to have actually seen active combat this century in at least several decades in comparison to other generals.
We already did, Hank Seth.
Of course, if you did miss it, he's the first Secretary of Defense to attack someone with an axe and hardly hurt them.
So...
How effective he is of a soldier?
I don't know.
He is really effective of spending and losing money.
We did learn about that.
Did you see him drinking up on the dais the other day?
I didn't.
I did write in my notes, cheers to Pete Hegseth.
I wonder how sobriety is going.
Yeah, there's some clip of him drinking or something.
He's like licking his lips all weird or something.
He takes a big ol' swill of that nice...
What is he drinking?
Like a Pappy Van Winkle?
He can just get it delivered.
No problem.
For our sake, I hope he gets this under control.
That would be nice.
But maybe if he's just drunk the whole time, he'll be sleeping.
And then we won't have to worry about it so much.
People can, like, rip him off, steal a 20 out of his wallet, you know?
Yeah.
Nuclear codes.
Dad's drunk again.
Just take all that shit out of his wallet.
And, yes, announce reciprocal tariffs.
On countries that are already doing exactly that to us.
Which, of course, he paused after Mexico and Canada sent troops to their borders, which was something that they'd already agreed to do under Biden.
So far, the only thing these proposed tariffs have done is make us look like incompetent shitheads to countries that we should be closest to, as they are literally touching our country.
I just don't understand what Stephen's doing here.
I think it's kind of weird, too.
It's really odd.
This job is not...
Often this easy.
Yeah.
He's rebutting things John Oliver said with nonsense that I can easily rebut.
Well, he's just not addressing them.
No, I guess you're right.
Hey, you said it was raining outside.
That's weird.
It's warm in the living room.
Okay.
I don't know.
Maybe this is...
You know how I said that John Oliver is like my left wing like...
Dopamine hit?
Yeah.
Maybe he needs to get into the business of John Olivering for the right.
Maybe.
Yeah.
What has this gotten, Donald Trump?
Because you can lie until you're blue in the face.
The highest approval rating of his political career at any point?
Which has been steadily falling since his inauguration.
Currently down 8 points, 3 in the last week.
And if you look at favorability, we've officially dipped into the unfavorable zone, which he's familiar with.
I think that Donald Trump's approval rating, I heard this on David Pakman yesterday, I might be misremembering, but I think that his approval rating, it's the lowest of an incoming president.
For February of their year that they came in, the lowest of any president ever since we've been tracking, except for Donald Trump's first term when it was lower.
Yeah.
So he is above.
He is more popular than he's ever been.
He's better than last year, but he's worse than everybody else.
Yeah.
Well, if you're only holding yourself up to yourself.
Only I can judge me.
It's actually down 18 points in favorability.
So that's pretty cool.
Whoops.
They rip through the rest of John, and, of course, Stephen does call him out and ask him to come on the show.
Oh, my God.
Let's jump back to the episode after this, in the wake of their, I guess, not even demonetization, the removal of the show.
Yeah.
I bet you probably think you know where this is going, but allow me to present The Prestige!
The clip was immediately banned before it even went live.
And this has greater ramifications for everyone on YouTube and on social media.
You know, it used to be called new media.
This was seen as this new frontier.
It's not anymore.
This is media.
And you have people, these dinosaurs, these legacy dinosaurs.
Who want to abuse it and ensure that you can't actually have your say.
That's the reason that Rumble exists.
YouTube is dead.
YouTube is not what YouTube once was.
The claim was made on behalf of Oliver's talent agency, Avalon, and Last Week Tonight.
This was manual.
They did it.
This wasn't just automatic.
I thought you misspoke, but it actually was taken down before it went live.
How is that even possible?
I'm pretty sure they have us set as an alert.
Thanks, Gerald, for fucking that up for me.
They weren't doing the show live, then.
No, they were.
I'm so confused.
I know, because it doesn't make any sense.
One, no evidence that I've seen that this was a manual copyright claim.
I'm familiar with YouTube.
They have a check process where you feed your program through it and it runs it on their database.
Like Shazam for copyright.
Yeah, basically.
Clearly, any time that a clip...
We experience this all the time when we do our streaming show.
I get Twitch dings for playing copyright stuff and oftentimes it shows like John Oliver or late night segments or if we're watching an SNL segment.
The major networks are the ones that have these automated copyright systems in place.
It's not surprising, and it's not even that big of a fucking deal.
That he was like, and they did this manually.
It was not manual.
It was not manual because Gerald said it happened automatically before their episode went live.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
He was trying to lie to his audience.
Gerald slipped up.
Well, I mean, and how could they have pulled it down?
Before the clip went out, when they're doing it live.
Well, so after something goes live, it does have to process.
And that is what happened, probably.
After the live episode ended, it does a check, verify, and then it went down because of copyright claims.
Same with us.
We play a couple tracks before we go in, and then on the replay, there's maybe like...
Sometimes one of them doesn't play.
Yeah, if you play a song from one of the major labels or something close enough that they would be big enough to have this system in place, then that audio is claimed.
That's just how it works.
This is not personal, Stephen.
John does not give a fuck about you.
Okay?
He doesn't give a fuck.
He's not coming on your show.
And you've already stated this has happened multiple times that you've been claimed by this.
Representative of the show.
It's in place, Stephen.
It's so much so that he staked his reputation on it by having an episode entirely about this the day before.
That is how certain he was that this was going to happen.
He's not a victim.
He's an idiot.
We appealed the decision, just to give you an idea, under this fair use principle.
A law principle.
And we've done this in the past.
Appeals have been denied.
Let me be clear with you.
In sort of outlining what fair use is.
It couldn't be more clear in this instance.
And if this doesn't apply as fair use, everyone out there is at risk.
If you rebut anything, it can be removed.
If you have an opinion that someone doesn't like and you show a clip, hey, do you know who violates fair use?
John Oliver by showing clips on a regular basis.
To lampoon them or rebut them.
Now, of course, he's never actually debated anyone in person or showed up with anyone who was a less-than-friendly audience, which I would argue is, you know, cowardice.
But he's a Brit.
Cocksucker.
Thanks, Nick.
Cocksucker.
Cocksucker.
Guy just woke up.
So bored out of his fucking mind.
Cocksucker.
He doesn't know what YouTube is.
He's doing a Joey Diaz cocksucker bib.
I used to work for HBO. He does say that, doesn't he, Jared?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Stephen, fair use isn't determined by YouTube.
It's determined by a judge in court.
YouTube has these checks in place to avoid legal situations.
Sure.
That's why there's a whole process.
It's just automatic.
There's a claim that's made.
You can appeal it, and if they say no, then you can go to court.
Sounds like the process playing out.
Sure.
Why did I do it in a Bain voice?
I'm not really sure why that happened.
Because we're putting the ball in your court, Stephen.
So, according to YouTube's standards, which are supposed to be based on law, and by the way, the same applies for journalism.
Single-party consent means that the other person doesn't need to know that they're being filmed or recorded.
You know, how you expose corruption.
YouTube doesn't apply the law.
In that instance, either, but hey, they get the benefit of Section 230 so long as they follow the law.
So there's other ways to expose corruption other than secretly recording people.
Yeah, you don't need to honeypot everybody, man.
Yeah, that's not how journalism really works.
You do research, you interview people, and you secretly record...
Wait.
Oh, crap.
Dang it.
So this reminds me of when you're in a Facebook marketplace yard sale group.
Oh.
And someone does a post just to complain about the rules.
Oh, sure.
Sure.
That is kind of the energy here.
That's what it reminds me of.
It's just full boomer.
You know, it's weird.
It says that I can't still use the couch on here, but...
I see you as couch posts all the time.
What's up with that?
Okay, so you want to fight with people?
Okay, cool, man.
And again, like I said, YouTube can have as many rules surrounding fair use.
It has nothing to do with the law fair use.
That is just how they handle this on their website.
And they are allowed to do that.
Just to make it very clear, I did pull some clips from the video that YouTube made about fair use.
Just to further explain this.
Here are a few things to keep in mind based on what the courts look at.
You're less likely to qualify for fair use if your video merely copies someone else's and adds nothing else.
If you're trying to monetize your video.
If you're using fictional copyrighted material rather than factual material.
If you borrowed a large amount of material rather than a small portion.
If the main focus of your video is the copyright protected material.
Or, if your use of the material harms the copyright owner's ability to profit from their original work.
So, all of these are helpful factors to consider when thinking about fair use.
But, also keep in mind, there is no guarantee that you'll qualify for fair use just because you take these factors into account.
Clearly stated.
Sure.
And he definitely skips over discussions about monetization or making it the focus of your entire show, which are clearly stated by this young lady here.
She goes on.
Why does my content, which is clearly fair use, keep getting claimed by Content ID? Great question.
Automated systems like Content ID can't determine fair use, which is a subjective case-by-case decision that can only be made by a court.
While YouTube can't arbitrate fair use disputes and automated systems like Content ID can't account for fair use, this doesn't mean that fair use can't exist on YouTube.
If you're a creator, you should avoid relying on fair use unless you understand how the rules work and you're prepared to defend your position through the Content ID dispute process and potentially the counter-notification process.
This forces the claimant to withdraw or to file a lawsuit.
Yeah, I mean, Stephen wants to be the victim in this.
Yeah.
Yep, that's it.
Oh no, is this victim of strikes three?
What is the system that they called it?
Content ID? Content ID, yeah.
Yeah.
And that's honestly, it's pretty simple.
It's just like an automated YouTube blurring a nipple or something.
Sure.
Right?
That nipple might be totally appropriate to show.
It might not be porn.
However, why does he think that the third, fourth, or fifth time that he does this with John Oliver, that the results are going to be different?
Well, he doesn't care.
Because it's manual.
Because they have a line on every time Stephen Crowder talks about John Oliver.
Exactly.
John Oliver's management hangs up on a booking of someone for the show.
Connor Ratliff doing an impersonation, and they're like, we got it.
Stephen's doing something on YouTube.
Yeah, I gotta watch this.
Yeah, hang on, you guys.
It's bullshit.
Yeah.
The only reason Stephen is doing this is because he's using this as a way to say the other media is against you.
That's it.
The entirety of the left wants you to not have a voice.
They want to take away your rights.
They want you to be able to play all kinds of British Talk show hosts.
How much damage?
And say whatever the hell you want to say about him.
He's doing more damage by lying to his audience than he is actually fighting for fair use.
Just making them dumber, yeah.
Nobody in his audience is going to exhaust any resources to try and prove anything here.
Of course.
It's an easy thing to get his base on his side.
Sure is.
He's saying, hey, listen, trust me.
I'm being abused.
I can't prove it, but trust me.
Well, we jump back to his discussions about this.
This is how YouTube defines fair use.
Purpose and character, it says, Courts typically focus on whether the use of copyright-protected material is transformative.
That means, are you just rebroadcasting something, are you pirating it, or are you changing that content?
Like a parody, or like a point-by-point, myth, fact, claim, truth, rebuttal.
It's transformative.
I agree with Stephen.
It is probably transformative.
I would consider commentary transformative.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah.
I just have no problem with that.
The nature of the copyrighted work is another category they have.
This is using material from primarily factual works is more likely to be fair use than using purely fictional works.
Maybe that's John Oliver's defense?
That he is not a primarily factual entity?
This was an automated claim.
Show?
Creator?
I don't know.
You're not that important.
It's the only wiggle room I can see with them arguing against this being fair use.
If John Oliver wants to...
Go out on that shield and say, well, you can't take what I say seriously.
I'm full of shit!
Fine!
Listen to that argument.
Maybe he's arguing that his works are completely, just purely fictional.
I don't know.
He's definitely not.
Yeah, it's a weird stretch.
I don't understand what Stephen's talking about.
They're offering recommendations based on the court.
They're talking about what the court might see as fair use and whatnot.
Why is he talking about this, considering the court is not ruled at all?
He's only pulling from a short segment on the YouTube.
Well, what I'm saying is that his fight is with content ID, not with the laws of fair use.
So he's arguing the wrong fight.
If he has a problem with content ID automatically claiming, then maybe that is something that he should have a problem with, I guess.
He's a lot of a problem with it.
Yeah, because Stephen did point out, John Oliver does...
Excuse me, pull clips from all kinds of sources for his show that are fair use, right?
Like he pulls news clips from local news or YouTube creators or other things.
Likely gets them cleared because HBO is like a professional operation with more than 30 employees.
Yeah, it's a big company.
Yeah, his fight is with Content ID and he's fighting the wrong fight.
Yeah.
But YouTube's the other.
YouTube's views on free speech or for use of the enemy.
No, YouTube is.
Okay.
And then the third sort of litmus test is the amount or the length of the copyrighted work being used.
So borrowing small bits, according to YouTube, of material from an original work is more likely to be considered fair use than borrowing large portions.
So we rebutted John Oliver.
Therefore, it was transformative.
It is supposed to be a primarily fact-based...
Work.
Okay, so we should be covered there.
And then as long as you're using shorter clips and addressing them due to their new worthiness or factual basis or disagree.
All three categories.
It couldn't be more clear.
This is an attack on freedom of speech on YouTube.
Better take it to court.
Yes.
Go to court over this.
It's not.
It's simply, hey, they said they're not going to allow this on there because it's too risky.
You think that's why they did that?
No, I'm saying it's too risky that it'll end up in court.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was going to say, they didn't say anything.
No, it's just content ID, man.
It's literally just blurring the nipple of the breastfeeding mom and the porn.
Or the nude yoga, which is allowed.
Yeah, we saw a nipple and we censored it.
Is it an illegal nipple?
I don't know.
Sort it out in court.
Is that the name of the episode?
No, the name of the episode is Hip Hop Slows Your Brain.
Great.
So, does our video fit those standards?
Well, here's the thing.
Right now it's been removed from YouTube, so you can't watch it.
I know, it's like a figment of your imagination.
So actually, go on over to the Rumble homepage.
It's featured.
And check the video out to see for yourself.
Featured right there on the homepage.
Thanks, Rumble.
Link in the description.
It's gotta piss him off.
It's not gonna piss anybody off.
No one gives a fuck.
It's getting you guys horny for something, but it's not.
It's not making anybody mad.
And the video is back on YouTube, by the way.
Is it?
Yeah.
So they appealed it.
And YouTube's like, alright.
Okay.
Yeah, fair use.
That sounds about right.
Our system tends to do this to everybody.
It's just that...
Fucking stupid, dude.
What a dumb...
I guess another infomercial for Rumble, right?
That's all it is.
Rumble wouldn't do this to you.
Yeah, Rumble would never do this.
To you?
It has to be specific.
Yeah, to you specifically.
Rumble barely works.
We can't do it to you.
We won't do content ID because we can't.
I'm real.
Every time I think...
Yeah, that's true.
We don't have...
We've only got 30, 40 people who work here.
And that's a small company.
It's tiny.
We're keeping it all online, though.
We've got Crowder.
Elon Musk has a channel over here.
I guess probably Don Jr. Don Jr., yes.
Who's that Nazi?
Sam Hyde is over here.
The Ghost of Kiev.
Of course.
We've got him.
It's just...
What a dumb waste of time, right?
This is why I told you.
It's TV card day.
It's propaganda.
It's anti-YouTube propaganda.
That's all it is.
I really did like in this episode how often he's having to say, Mug Club does not exist anymore.
It's now Rumble Premium.
This is like five weeks in a row.
You know, typically when something like that's happening, they'll try to warn you within.
But they kind of just dropped the whole week before.
They were like, hey, Mug Club's over.
It's Rumble Premium.
See you over there.
So then the next subsequent six weeks after that, they're still like, yeah, Mug Club does not exist anymore.
How many times do we have to fucking say this on our show?
It's like, well, you are cultivating that audience, my man.
These are people who are not going to understand that the thing that they bought is no longer available to them anymore.
Well, it's not even just the thing they bought.
It's the identity that he gave them.
He said, you are Mug Club.
Like, every week.
Mug Club Premium is gone, and now it's Rumble Premium.
You are Rumble Premium.
They're like, if Mug Club is gone, does that mean...
I'm gone?
They've just been sitting.
It's a leftovers spinoff.
You guys have seen that gif of like the old man puts my computer in the trash can on his PC. The computer disappears and he's like, oh no.
Linda?
That's fun.
That's honestly the vibe, though.
Yeah, it's exactly that.
I love it.
They've just been sitting in their chair for three weeks, four weeks, five weeks, just waiting for it to start back up.
They're like, God, I'm dehydrated.
I'm so hungry.
But it's odd that the main theme of the last two weeks has been either this rumble propaganda.
Or discussing this lawsuit that Rumble is, you know...
Suing Brazil?
This is the Rumble show with Steven Crowder.
It really is.
Here's that invite, though.
The big swing.
He's got to take big swings.
Remember Elon Musk from a couple weeks ago?
Yeah, yeah.
Come on and talk about it.
We're still just as popular as we were eight years ago.
Kamala Harris?
Come on and talk about it.
Let's talk about how many guys you had sex with to get into office.
John Oliver, anytime.
We welcome you.
And of course, we'll be polite.
We'll match intensity.
I would love to have a conversation with you.
And not just about political disagreements.
Maybe you don't know that your talent agency is doing this.
Maybe you don't know what's going on on social media.
I know you've advocated for censorship of speech.
But you know what?
I'm willing to hear you out.
And I know that everyone in the conservative movement is willing to hear you out.
You'd be surprised as to how polite the audience is.
But the difference is, they actually show up.
They actually stand behind their convictions.
There's a reason that Rumble is the future.
There's a reason that YouTube is dead.
And it's just crystallized by the fact that John Oliver...
It's a spineless pussy.
If you're going to leave it like that, then I guess I will come on your show.
Yeah, we're going to match intensity.
We'll be totally cool when you get here, you pussy.
You fucking pussy.
Sit the fuck down.
Could you imagine Elon Musk or any of these guys, someone who's on his side, and he's going to try to daddy-dom their asses the second they sit down with them.
You know what I mean?
He's just going to be like...
It's up with all these kids in IVF, Elon.
At least I got two kids that are mine.
But anyway, something like that.
Of course.
Just the classic Crowder.
I'm actually funnier than you are, so let's just start there.
I've never met him one.
I've never seen a more insecure person.
It's so funny that he acts like, John Oliver might not know.
Like, he might be like...
John Oliver doesn't care.
He doesn't care.
Exactly.
He's not listening.
Like, he expects him to be like, oh man, I'm so sorry.
I'll talk to my agency about that.
I'll get that sorted out for you, man.
I'm so sorry about that.
I'm doing a show.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like when Guy Fieri was hanging out with the Boom guys.
With AJ and Big Justin?
Yeah.
He's like, these guys are crazy.
Have you guys seen this yet?
I don't know.
And Guy Fieri's like, I don't know who the fuck those people were.
Yeah, but he likes them.
So at least Guy's a good guy.
Yeah, enough, enough.
That's so funny.
Let's get to...
Yeah, I don't know if we have the guests on, but we're going to have guests on in a little bit.
Hopefully they're waiting in the wings here, Paulo Figueiredo and Alan DeSantos.
So, this is big news.
This morning, Rumble and Trump Media and Technology Group, TMTG, they jointly sued the Brazilian Supreme Court Justice, Alexandra...
DeMoraez.
Alexander Alexander.
DeMoraez is what we've called him.
We're not on a first-name basis.
We aren't.
In a Florida federal court.
Now, quick note here.
This lawsuit came mere hours after Maraez received the indictment of the former president, Bolsonaro.
Meaning prosecutors brought an indictment against the former president.
Fan, friend of Trump, more conservative, pro-liberty, right?
This judge now holds in his hands indicting the former president as he runs interference for a Marxist, arguably dictator, right now in Brazil.
That's...
The temperature.
It's kind of odd that after the Supreme Court justice was attempting to hold...
Is it Bolsonaro?
Yeah, it was Bolsonaro.
That's what he said.
That Trump would retaliate with this lawsuit surrounding his company in Rumble.
It's really weird.
Bolsonaro doesn't have time to deal with this type of shit, I'll be honest with you guys.
He's got too many intestinal obstructions and skin infections to be dealing with.
Well, he did get stabbed.
You guys need to leave him out of this.
Yeah.
That is one of the...
This Alan DeSantos guy, he's quite the character, a journalist from Brazil.
Much like Paulo, he's kind of steeped in controversy.
As a journalist, it seems like he took state money from Bolsonaro to lie to people, it seems.
He's accused of operating an illegal and highly lucrative misinformation ring, which was...
Paulo on an episode that we did a while back.
Yeah, like last year, it's that same Brazilian journalist.
Where he was a victim on that episode, but now he's doing this shit.
Well, I mean, he's still a victim, but he's just a more secure victim in Miami-Dade County.
This other guy, DeSantos, allegedly spread malicious disinformation about Brazil's electoral system, Bolsonaro's opponents, and the COVID-19 pandemic.
He said it was just a little flu.
Basically said it didn't exist.
Nice.
But yeah, his YouTube channel shut down in 2021 at the request of the Brazilian Supreme Court.
That's probably why they're continuing to pressure other companies to stop this.
But listen, I don't live in Brazil.
I don't know...
How corrupt things are.
I know Bolsonaro is fairly corrupt and a full-blown dipshit.
I don't know anything about this Supreme Court justice, really.
And Stephen doesn't either, so I don't know why he's talking much about it.
But claiming that Dos Santos is running a misinformation ring.
I'm aware that misinformation is in the eye of the person claiming it, of course.
However...
I'm highly skeptical of these right-wing journalists who are accepting money in order to write stories that help a presidential candidate.
Sure.
Or president, period.
I think it's worth being reminded about the entire $400,000 an episode Russian media thing.
Oh, sure, yeah.
Influence comes from many places, and money should be removed from journalism, and that's why I'm asking you.
Just stop supporting us at shrug.club.
That's right.
Go there.
Cancel your thing.
Cancel your membership.
Stop being a piece of shit.
Yeah.
Wake up.
What a piece of shit.
Don't be that.
Don't be that.
Oh, I'm fine with that!
See?
Steven agrees.
But, yeah.
Like...
We aren't journalists, though.
I'm not a journalist.
Thank you.
We're comedians.
I guess we're comedians.
No, we're not comedians.
Well, it's kind of funny you say that.
You're humorists.
I have a great clip.
You're like Dave Barry.
Three Dave Berries.
Oh, this person's not funny.
This person's not a comedian.
Or, oh, this person's not a journalist.
Well, hold on a second.
Are they reporting news?
Are they exposing corruption?
Are they breaking news?
They're a journalist.
Well, hold on a second.
Are people paying to go see that person, make them laugh?
They're a comedian.
You may not like it.
Do you own a camera?
If you've ever taken a picture, you're a photographer.
Did you just buy a guitar?
You're a musician now.
Did we just go through this on both these last episodes?
Yeah, I think this might be the last clip.
That was my last clip, but I'm going to backtrack one here.
Couldn't wait.
Just because you don't like it that I'm a comedian journalist, world globetrotter, you guys don't like it, you can't handle it, because I'm living my best life.
Shut up, dude.
Stupid.
Let me give you the why on this specific case and what it means for everyone here.
And please, by the way, go out and support your Brazilian brothers and sisters because there are a lot of them who I guarantee you would love to be stateside here in America because they see the writing on the wall and they're in a fight for the very fiber of their country.
Mariah's issued an order that would ban basically some U.S.-based creators, Brazilians in America.
From seeing, creating content.
This, arguably, right now, I don't know that it's been named, but it's specifically designed to try and silence Alan DeSantos, who will be on the show in a little bit.
So, basically, you have a rogue judge in Brazil saying, hey, we want the American government, or we want...
It's so complicated, but here's what they want.
They want to get rid of Brazilians who are in the United States, not even in Brazil anymore, from creating content.
They want to ban Brazilians from seeing the content of Brazilians who are here in America.
You guys are just mad that I'm more Anthony Bourdain than you are.
And next week when they show up, it's going to be George Allen Santos.
It's funny.
I was doing some research and I kept coming up with pictures of that Santos.
Yeah, that's the only one.
Google's bad.
This is hilarious to me because this is some other country's bullshit.
Yeah.
Replace all of this with Mexico.
Let's say Mexico.
Do you think Stephen gives a single fuck?
Right.
If Stephen said, Can you believe that Mexico is trying to get us to send their immigrants to not be able to make content here in the United States?
A rogue judge.
A rogue Mexican judge is trying to enforce the Mexican laws on the Mexican immigrants here in the United States.
I am so over...
What's a rogue judge?
Someone you disagree with.
Totally.
It's the same with Trump saying activist judges are against his administration and the policies.
It's framing things in a way that is frankly embarrassing.
It's demonizing.
Kind of damaging.
Yeah, it's just demonizing.
But this is absolutely bonkers to me.
This Brazilian judge is trying to enforce a law in Brazil or enforce an interpretation of a law in Brazil.
And that's their business.
Exactly.
It's just saying, hey, listen, Rumble, if you give these people a platform, we're not going to show that in Brazil because we don't want those people to have a platform here.
Speaking of showing and platforming people, I'm not going to play any of their interviews.
Because, one, I don't trust them.
Well, and also that judge tried to sue us, too.
I just got to check our bank account and make sure that went through.
We got a Brazilian dollars in there.
Oh.
On that note, that's about all I can handle this week.
That's the name of the episode.
A Brazilian dollars.
We got there.
Yes.
If you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
And also feel free to join and support the folks we mentioned previously did over at shrug.club if you want to watch livestream replays.
I think I have one from 2023, an episode of Double Salutes, the most patriotic livestream ever.
Yeah, we're going to throw that up there at shrug.club.
But yeah, I want to thank once again Taru T. Yay!
I was going to say it.
What?
What a piece of shit.
Thank you.
As well as Sarah W. Thanks, Sarah.
Piece of shit.
You guys are the best.
Thank you so much.
Be a piece of shit.
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Rate and review us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify.
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I hated that.
It sucked to do.
This is better energy, but I hate it.
I hate it with a different energy.
Yeah, it's a different kind of hate.
Yeah, exactly.
I hate it with my soul instead of my heart.
I hate it like Kendrick hates Drake.
I hate it like hip-hop hates my brain.
Great.
And I hate it like the way Bill Nye hated me when I was an 11-year-old.
Telling him I really liked his show when I was a kid.
He does seem like a bit of a pretentious guy.
Telling me what liquid salt and gas is?
How about you fuck off, Bill?
Didn't he used to be a cop or something?
Get the fuck out of here.
And until next time, I'm Byron.
I'm Jared.
And I'm Dennis.
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