This week the LwC boys celebrate wasting a lot of money in a city they hate, while weighting their racism against the rule of law. This comedy show is unfunny and also (unfortunately) boring... Bonus segment that was cut for time/vibes is dropping at http://shrug.club soon. Like what we're doing? Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy
Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast louder with Crowder.
My name is Byron.
I'm joined tonight, across from me, smelling of PB&J. Slammed a PB&J before I came here and I felt so good.
I'm Dennis.
What's up?
That explains that.
It is Dennis.
And all the way, occupied Texas.
It's Jared.
And Jared's coked up.
Coca-Cola.
Zeroed up.
Oh, nice.
Nice, dude.
Oreo flavored.
And I'm not going to lie, folks.
This show sucks.
Like, does our show broadly suck?
No, I mean, our show's fine.
The first listener.
I'll throw this one.
I guess I'll throw it off now.
Louder with Crowder, it always sucks.
But the episode we chose this week, Tuesday, October 15th, we're back in the present with election rigging.
Why the DOJ is suing to let illegals vote in the 2024 election.
Even with some attempted bits, this comedy show is so boring.
Is it?
Yeah.
Is it going to make me mad?
I mean, probably.
I listened to it three times.
I have anger to get out.
I think this will be good.
Oh, wow.
Having a tough week over there.
Yeah, I'm having a...
It's fine.
It's been a really, really messed up week.
Play the clip.
No.
Stephen is smug.
Josh has drank the Kool-Aid or lemonade because he still is wearing that shirt.
At least once a week this guy is wearing this.
Do you think he runs like a lemon stand at a local farmer's market?
I just think he needs to get paid more because like I mean we do shows live every once in a while.
I'd like try not to wear the exact same thing.
I just wear black on black on black, but I get it.
I agree.
See, you can pull that off.
You can get away with it.
Gerald's still a bigot.
You almost said Gerald.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's not necessary.
That won't be there.
Yeah, yeah, sorry.
Hey, come on now.
Come on.
Gerald's still a bigot, but yeah, they have some announcements and some surprises that I think they think that they should be proud of.
You think they think they should?
Yeah, I do.
But to kick things off, after the mug sip, of course.
I don't know if you know this, but some voter fraud or potential voter fraud has now been caught in the state of Virginia.
And the governor is actually stepping up and purging voter rolls of non-citizens who are on there, at least 6,000 that we know of.
And of course, the DOJ is suing, saying, hey, you have to keep non-citizens on the voter rolls.
Hmm.
Hmm.
We also have a wild prediction.
Stephen's become a regular Nate Silver overnight.
Nathan Gold.
Also, America has shifted.
Notably Republican, if you look at these numbers and you follow the trends historically, there's a 99% chance that Donald Trump wins this election, the Electoral College.
Yeah.
Again, anything can happen, but we'll make that case.
That's a big one.
99.
That's lofty, dude.
Yeah, wow.
And honestly, Nate Gold, it was a really funny joke.
Nathan Gold.
That sucks.
Wow.
Yeah, and then, you know, some more delusional distractions from what is seemingly a 50-50 race.
It's a 99-1 race.
Oh, I don't know about that.
Also, the Polymarket right now trend, the betting odds in Vegas.
Bring this up, Noodles.
Polymarket.
Noodles.
Polymarket, 14 points.
Wow.
14 points for Donald.
That means where the money is being bet, where people are actually putting money where their mouth is.
That sounds like...
Okay.
Irrelevant, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But also, most importantly, Noodles?
Who's Noodles?
He's a new guy?
Yeah, he's a new guy.
They've been running an unmanned ship lately, so they're filling the gaps.
They've got a new crew coming aboard.
Like hire a temp agency to send in people?
Someone embarrassed enough that they'd rather go buy noodles than their name publicly.
It's not the guy from The Offspring?
It actually could be.
Well, no, I think Noodles is an actual good person from the Oscar.
That's what I have heard, yeah.
Yeah, not one of the members of that band with the guy from Mighty Money Boston.
The Tim Pool All-Stars?
Close enough.
The one that did the Interrupters cover?
You're thinking about the Defiant.
The Defiant, yes.
Of course, because they are Defiant and they have the drummer from The Offspring who refused to get vaccinated.
Dickie Barrett?
Or is it the guy that dances?
No, the singer, not the dancer.
Not the Pakalika of their band?
No.
That's a deep cut for the freaks out there.
Also members of Smash Mouth.
Wow.
Whoa, really?
Not the one that died, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Greg Camp is on guitar from Smash Mouth.
And Johnny Rue from Street Dogs is playing bass.
From Street Dogs?
Yeah, I don't know what that band is.
But Joey LaRocca from The Briggs is on guitar and keyboard.
I remember The Briggs.
Yeah.
They were like all mutton chop boys with like braces and blue jeans.
Of course.
Skins, right?
But like not, well, now maybe, but...
Not a far cry.
Yeah, yeah.
They believe it's a big show.
Yeah.
We got a lot to cover.
But first, and more importantly, a Harris campaign update.
Ooh.
Huh.
And I want to touch on this really quickly.
I don't know if you know this.
Kamala Harris is flailing.
She's desperate.
She'll be on Fox News tomorrow.
We're not going to be covering that live, but we'll be covering it the next morning.
She's pandering.
She's pandering.
By going on Fox News?
Yeah.
Kind of almost simultaneously as Trump is doing that Univision town hall and he also was doing...
That was so fucking funny.
That was pretty good.
It was so...
Some really nice moments.
It was a day of love, dude.
Some great questions.
But then also he did two all-female town halls.
Really?
I wouldn't even say he's pandering.
I think it's called campaigning.
Both of them are campaigning.
Campaigning is just pandering, like professional pandering.
I guess.
It's targeting demographics where you're lacking support.
Yeah, she's doing a very good job of showing that...
She's not afraid.
Yeah, she's not afraid of stuff.
Because Trump would never do a CNN interview.
Anything outside of his little orbit does not usually go very well.
But that's just my personal opinion.
Apparently she's also pandering to another demo.
In outreach to black men, Harris vows to legalize weed and protect crypto.
In the most...
Self-unaware racist article headline I can think of.
And the article went on to lay out her proposed subsidization of fat white assets.
So let it not be said that she is...
She wants that...
Hey, that matches your shirt.
That's the second mention I've seen of the pandering with weed.
What is that about?
It's only racist.
Blacks love weed, dude.
Blacks love weed.
That's what I'm thinking.
Are they the ones making that connection and saying that she's the one being racist about it?
It's only racist out of context and if you view those things as negative stereotypes.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like implying that black people smoke weed more or whatever.
So it matters a lot to them.
Not only are they smoking weed more, but they're throwing all of their cash into Bitcoin.
Everyone, dude.
Living on a prayer.
Doge is lifting up this economy, bro.
Well, 20% of black Americans do have crypto, according to a statistic here.
How does that compare to white tech bros?
Well, let's put it against me.
Do I smoke weed?
Hell yeah.
Do I own crypto?
Hell yeah.
What do you own, dude?
I'm a big Dogecoin guy.
Oh, wow.
How much you got?
Dennis, you sold all your Doge and bought a...
I bought a hundred bucks worth of Doge and sold it for $1,800 and bought a gaming PC. That's nice, man.
The American dream.
What I think is the American dream.
Oh no!
I made like, I don't even know, $350 on some come-up, and then I just threw it all on Dogecoin, and then it tanked.
So I've got like a thousand Dogecoins.
Oh god, we are really proven to be three white guys on a podcast right now.
But I also smoke weed, so consider that before you keep talking.
So her proposal, the Opportunity Agenda for Black Men, it includes offering one million fully forgivable loans to black business owners and new federal regulations for cryptocurrency to protect investors in the digital currency.
And this is according to a USA Today article written by Joey Garrison, the one that Stephen was talking about just a second ago.
She also proposed legalizing marijuana nationally for recreational use and ensuring black entrepreneurs have access to the growing cannabis industry.
But yeah, I mean, she also said if elected, she would break down unjust legal barriers that hold black men and other Americans back by legalizing marijuana nationally, working with Congress to ensure that the safe cultivation, distribution, and possession of recreational marijuana is law of the land.
Marinara?
Come on, man.
I'm doing my best.
Legalize marinara.
Legalize it, baby!
All right.
You gonna have a new hat?
Legalized marinara?
I feel like that's something that...
Johnny Carino's my dude.
Yum yum, eat it up.
Alright.
It doesn't look like a stupid fucking Italian thing.
She also proposed fully forgivable loans of up to $20,000 to black entrepreneurs and others who have, quote, a good idea but don't have the resources, connections, or access to capital to get their business off the ground.
That's sick.
It's great stuff.
And as a white man, I support that.
Of course.
Well, it's pandering though.
Yeah, I mean, I want new businesses to open up in my city.
When you bring up the marijuana stuff, I mean, for as long as black people have been free, they have been unfairly policed.
Definitely, including marijuana.
Especially.
If we're going to legalize it for recreational use, we need to, you know, maybe give folks who were damaged by the legislation to give them an opportunity to get ahead.
This is also why I believe that people in jail should be able to vote.
I think that's a great idea.
Yeah, I agree.
For reasons that will become clear, the gang has been referencing the Peter Thiel-seated decentralized prediction market platform Polymarket, where a mostly crypto-bro user base can bet on the outcomes of real-world events, most applicably in this case the results of the U.S. election.
They've been talking about the spread between Trump and Kamala's chances at winning, What is your best guess currently of who's up, based on all of that that I just said?
I would definitely say that it's probably Gary Johnson.
Gary Johnson's still kicking ass.
Wow, is Vermin Supreme going?
The techno-Vikings.
Trump is still up in this.
Really?
Yeah, Trump is up in Polly Market.
Is it?
No.
Okay.
Josh Feierstein, how are you?
I'm good.
I'm good.
Glad to see that 14-point spread.
That's like a football score.
Yes.
If that's fourth quarter football game, two score spread, dude, you're winning.
Yeah, Trump's up by two touchdowns.
That's great.
That's when you start doing fumble ruskies, you start deflating footballs, you get the refs involved, you start cheating.
Beforehand, it was a soccer score, where it was 0-0 with 19 hours left to play.
Correct.
Yes, and then maybe more after.
Who knows?
It's up to the ref.
But lots of chanting and drinking in the stands.
Yes.
Yeah, well, there's always a riot.
A couple of fights.
Or as they refer to January 6th, September 11th, the sequel.
Part 9-11, Harder.
The worst day in American history.
Ignore Pearl Harbor behind the curtain.
Hey!
Did he say 9-11 harder?
Yeah.
Because that's actually a sick name.
It's kind of cool.
Oh, man.
So, yeah, as of Tuesday, it was 14 points between Trump and Harris.
And it's a betting site, right?
Yeah, where non-U.S. citizens can bet.
Oh, so you can't even...
We legally can't bet on election results.
Oh, that's true.
He's right.
Of course, Josh, this current third chair sitter, is really stoked about this.
I don't know why all of a sudden he is just...
It's not...
It doesn't impact the election.
No.
It's just betting, right?
But Trump's up by two touchdowns.
Two touchdowns and maybe a two-point conversion?
Maybe a couple extra points?
It's not really how it works.
Like Josh saying, we're not looking at a score that's going up.
Once you get there, you win.
The way he's visualizing this.
It's a prediction of an event that is coming.
The way he's visualizing this makes no sense in the context.
Steven's analogy, though, about a soccer game makes a little bit more sense, though.
Kind of going back and forth on the field.
I mean, I guess.
But I think polling is getting less and less reliable, personally.
I mean, this is not based on any scientific fact.
But I just think that the outcomes have been so far off from what we expected before going in.
This year is going to be really interesting.
It's going to confirm a lot of different techniques that they're using.
I took a poll.
Someone called me.
It took me 25 minutes.
Oh, no.
That's why people aren't doing it.
Exactly.
That's why it's only old people doing it.
Democrats aren't patient.
Exactly, that's right.
That's probably it.
Also, Stephen continuing to overstate the opinion of how the left and rational folks feel about January 6th.
9-11 harder, you mean?
Exactly.
Hoping that none of his listeners have ever had a nuanced conversation about it.
No, of course not.
Is that what he's doing?
Yeah, I think so.
Is this gaslighting?
Is it reverse gaslighting?
Talking to his audience, pretending that we think that 9-11 is equivalent to January 6th?
I think I take it very seriously.
Well, three patriots.
Okay.
Actually, Ashley Babbitt died.
That equals at least 1,000.
I just think it's kind of silly to equate the two, but...
When we discuss it as it pertains to things like 9-11, there's nuance around all of that, right?
It's a significantly different thing that happened because it was like an attack from inside our country on our country.
So it's very different, you know?
And also, people unified it when 9-11 happened.
But it also was an inside job, Dennis, so...
Oh, interesting.
They are actually very much related.
Do you think they hired on LinkedIn?
Well, we've got to get to the bottom of this.
This has been...
This is the show.
This is the Shrug Club.
We're done.
We just said, I don't know.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know.
Go like this.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Are you doing the Rizzler over there, Jared?
Yeah, yeah.
Look.
Hmm.
I can't see you, but I know you're doing it.
Yeah, you can.
Just imagine me.
All right.
Hmm.
I don't know if you know this, a lot of people don't like this next person.
Uh-oh.
And by a lot of people, I mean almost everybody.
Whoa, who's he talking about?
That's the big question here.
It is an actress, but there are far too many actresses that Stephen hates.
Yes, of course.
So I'm going to give you a couple hints.
She shares her name with the wife of a famous English playwright.
Oh, okay.
Nothing yet.
William Shakespeare.
Nope, that's a man, and we're talking about the wife of...
Okay, I don't know.
Will Yamette?
What?
Shakespeare.
She won an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress for her role as Fantine in the musical film adaptation.
I'm not sure if Stephen's done a parody of this yet, but...
Cruella de Vil.
Closer than you'd think.
Yeah.
Emma Stone.
Nope.
She gained widespread recognition for her role as a princess in a popular 2001 Disney film.
Hilary Duff.
Xenon.
Lizzie McGuire.
Anne Hathaway did give a full-throated endorsement of Kamala Harris at her show, I guess, in Broadway.
I mean, I can't think of a show less appealing than one titled Anne Hathaway, An Ensemble.
- Tumble. - So she keeps holding the note and does a big run there, But also, the show wasn't called Anne Hathaway in Ensemble, if you can imagine.
Wow, really?
They got it wrong.
Yeah, they did.
It was called Broadway Rallies for Kamala, which took place on Monday, October 14th in New York City.
The show featured other legends and celebrities, including Anna Gasteyer, Billy Porter, Kristen Chenoweth, and Whoopi Goldberg.
Chasten Buttigieg, the spouse of, of course, Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.
Mayor Pete's partner?
Yeah, yeah.
Was in the audience.
Did you guys watch that documentary?
No, what?
The Chasten documentary?
No, I didn't.
Is it good?
Yeah, he's like a little beat dog.
It's weird.
It's a weird thing that they produced.
It's like a Hulu original or something.
Chasten is the dog that waits by the tracks waiting for his owner to come back.
I mean...
I'll check it out, actually.
It sounds pretty good.
It's kind of wild.
I can't remember what it's called, though.
The event was also live-streamed, urging folks to volunteer to knock on doors and phone bank.
It was also paired with a daytime virtual phone bank called Kamala Dial-A-Thon, which I love a thon.
I love a good thon, dude.
Oh, not enough thons.
That thon, the thon, thon, thon.
Nice.
Like when the money comes.
And it goes to the funds.
Yay, B. That thon, the thon, thon.
We know.
Okay.
It was aiming to make one million phone calls to help get out the vote.
So, Stephen's interpretation of this whole thing is...
She'd make fun of her for some reason, right?
Because it's called Anne Hathaway?
An ensemble?
I don't know.
Yeah, yeah.
The way Steve tries to frame this as being in the middle of a more traditional performance, making a public proclamation of support for Kamala, which, honestly, who gives a fuck either way?
Yeah.
He's just clueless and clearly has no interns to write his show anymore.
Was he looking forward to watching the Anne Hathaway performance?
And he's like, wait a minute, this is political?
I think...
I think he might like watching Anne Hathaway.
He enjoys watching Anne Hathaway.
Yeah, but I don't think he cares for any other part of her.
No.
But, yeah, annoying.
Anne and the guys kind of continue here.
Oh, she's still going.
And actually, my son Jonathan is here tonight.
That kid's rounding himself.
Also, in case you didn't know, I am voting for Kamala.
Oh!
What?
Shocking.
What?
Oh, you're voting command.
For a moment, I was worried.
Name that movie line.
Just the self-importance.
Look, look, nobody likes you.
Nobody cares.
I understand that you didn't want to go for that high note, so you should also be ashamed of yourself and the ensemble, but...
Shame of the ensemble.
I mean, at least they don't have their names up in the lights.
They're like, hey, just keep it ensemble.
I don't want this to get out.
Yes, exactly.
Keep it off my resume.
Hey, sweetie, for anniversary...
Tickets to Anne Hathaway and Ensemble.
Dude, you know, was this like yesterday or Sunday?
Sunday.
Dude, you know there's at least one guy there who wanted to watch football.
Yes.
And has been that instead.
There's one guy who took the train from Philly.
He's like, I'm missing the Eagles, dude!
Yeah.
He wanted to watch Steelers-Raiders.
Instead, he's watching, I guess, the best dress-up.
Yes.
Well, there were a lot of Philadelphia people there.
It always happens in New York.
When she said, I'm voting Kamali here, show us your time!
Do they not realize how loser-ish it is for them to think that what they're doing is better than spending time with their spouses?
Yeah, doing things that people care about.
They'll get to a bunch of fucking losers, dude.
They went and watched Anne Hathaway instead of watching guys throw balls at each other.
You know, I hate doing nice stuff for my wife.
But here's kind of like one thought, though.
What's that?
And maybe the opposite direction.
A little bit, at least.
If you listen to how these guys talk, what's the movie quote?
Who can name it?
It's Muppet Christmas Carol.
Is that what that was from?
Exactly.
So what I'm saying is that you probably don't have to really worry about them too much because they're just at home polishing up on their clothes from the Muppet Christmas Carol from 1992.
Yeah, I had no idea.
I've never seen that movie, but...
Yeah, I didn't either.
It's good.
I had trouble thinking that for a moment I was worried is a popular quote from a film.
No.
What were you guys watching in 92?
It's like John Cratchit, is that his name?
I don't know.
The bad guy in The Christmas Carol?
Ebeneezer Scrooge.
The Scrooge-y boy?
Is that him?
Dude, I don't know.
Oh, Cratchit is...
Yeah, Jim Cratchit is the guy who's like...
Please, my son, he's dying.
Can I go sit with him for Christmas?
And he's like, you haven't met your quota yet, bub frog.
It's not the holiday season yet, or else I'd let you continue this.
I don't know that movie.
It's also not Sunday, but I guess it is for the sake of the bit.
Yeah.
You got to, dude.
You got to be like, oh, man.
Because they obviously wrote that rant as well.
Of course they did.
Lazy, lazy work today on the show.
And now Stephen has an opportunity for another Reba is doing gun buybacks at Walmart moment.
It's not exactly apples to apples, but it kind of feels that way.
This is the lady, by the way, this is Hollywood, who they tell you, there's more that unites us than divides us.
Let's come together.
This is the woman who turned away at Barack Obama's inauguration because Rick Warren was speaking.
She was so offended at the idea of a Christian pastor speaking that she made sure everyone saw and no one cared.
I'm turning my back because Rick Warren is a pastor.
Shut up.
No one likes you.
You ruin everything you touch.
You haven't done anything good since Princess Bride, and even that was passable.
We'll get back to the Princess Bride talk in a minute, but this turning away situation, it had nothing to do with Rick Warren being a pastor.
Anne was actually brought up New Jersey-style Catholic and was considering becoming a nun as a child.
Then her brother came out as gay, and her and her family converted to Episcopalianism, which is a word that I didn't think I was going to successfully pronounce, so...
which is the reason that she turned away from rick warren because at the time he supported proposition 8 in california do you remember that yeah yeah it was going to ban same-sex marriage
he also urged his 30 000 church members to do the same to quote preserve the biblical definition of marriage comparing homosexuality to incest pedophilia and polygamy and he also said that gays quote unwilling to repent for their homosexual lifestyle would not be accepted as members of his church Okay.
So it sounds like just because he was a pastor.
That's why she turned away.
That's exactly right.
Yeah, yeah.
And also, Stephen, get fucked, you lazy dumbass.
What the hell?
Yeah, it's not...
Well, it's just...
He's not...
He knows these things.
Of course!
He just is.
He's pandering.
He's doing a show.
He knows that no one else will look it up.
But it's so silly, because I think every time a president has been inaugurated, there's been a religious figure, right?
Probably.
I think so.
I assume so.
I don't watch them.
Unless Three Doors Down is playing.
Yeah, if they're playing, I'll watch for sure.
Yeah.
I'll just loop that on a DVR. That was so good.
I'll put it on the TiVo.
Got one song.
When Trump wins, do you think it's going to be like a Lil Pump?
Who else?
Who do you think is going to play this year?
I have no idea.
Lil Pimp.
Do you remember that?
I do.
That was great.
Did you really introduce me?
Of course he did.
Yeah.
Yes.
So, we talked briefly about the differences between being a mug clubber and enlisting in the mug club army.
One costs money, and the other, you better warm up your 2001 Honda Civic, because if you're in a shenanigan state on election night, they're going to call you up for active duty to harass poll workers and maybe even intimidate voters.
Just like a ving, ving, ving, ving!
Like...
Corolla comes around.
Oh, damn.
Yeah, Civic comes around.
Well, it's mostly Civics, but yeah.
Maybe a Hyundai.
An Accord.
Sure.
Either way, there's other ways to support the show.
And you can take part, by the way, and join the Mug Club army.
Which, you know, obviously, if you're not a member of Mug Club, that's fine.
We ask you to go Mugless because it's a multi-million dollar undertaking going into the election.
But you can also do some things for free.
For example, if you are in New York City...
Real quick.
Princess Diaries is pretty good.
No, I think he said Princess Bride.
No, because Anne is in Princess Diaries.
I know, but I think he did say Princess Bride.
Oh, I'm not going to go back and check that.
We better check it.
No.
God, no.
Yeah, because it's important that we don't defame Andre the Giant.
He thinks that Andre the Giant's Anne Hathaway.
Anything good since Princess Bride, and even that was passable.
Uh-oh.
Even that was passable.
Steve, that's not passable for you because you misspoke.
Yeah, Princess Bride?
That idiot!
Oh my god!
Yeah, we're talking diaries.
And my girlfriend loves Princess Diaries.
She watched both of them last week.
Is there a new one coming out?
I think there is, yeah.
Maybe that's why she's on the radar.
He thinks that...
Bated-breathing right now.
Andre the Giant is...
Anne Hathaway, of course.
Does he think so?
Or, you know, Wallace Shawn?
She probably makes up her and Billy Crystal.
Other ways to support the show, of course.
You can also do some things for free.
For example, if you are in New York City right now, you can just go take a picture with our new Times Square billboard.
Yeah!
It's big stuff, boys.
He has a billboard in Times Square?
Uh-huh.
Hold tight.
They're just showing it.
Oh, I didn't realize if I kept going.
Did you stop it early?
Keep playing!
This is a horrible plug.
It's a horrible employee.
That Empire State of Mind thing that they put on there.
The royalty free piano, yeah.
In Ohio!
That's where Columbus ends and Dave Chappelle's house is.
So first they turned New York red.
Then they planted their flag in brightly lit LEDs on the side of a building where folks can see an ad for the election live stream of the century for about 15 seconds.
And it's after an ad for Grand Slam.
Hell yeah, dude.
The number one rated souvenir shop in New York.
I think it's sharing a square, because right below it was an advertisement for Alyssa Milano, who is starring in Chicago on Broadway.
I gotta say, I've never had a Times Square billboard.
Sure, yeah.
Not super impressive, especially considering the cost, though.
Dennis, you were in advertising for a little bit.
The small digital billboards like this, which is about, Jared, 8x12, you think that sounds about right?
8 feet by 12 feet?
Yeah.
They can run about $4,500 per month.
That's not bad.
No.
That's affordable.
Fairly reasonable.
We should get one.
So we, I mean, we could do one.
I mean, we could do one daily.
I think daily is like 500 bucks.
Shrek Club, please fund us.
I don't think that's where we should spend our money.
I think we should.
I think it's a good call.
We could take over that Alyssa Milano.
Can I see that billboard?
Do you have a picture of it somewhere?
I can pull this on the clip.
I thought it was in your notes.
No.
Is that his thing?
Rumble.com slash Steven Crowder?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He doesn't do louder with.
Yeah.
Overall, not super cool and also not very original.
Steven's been borrowing a lot of ideas lately with this billboard.
Tim Pool did it first.
Did he?
Yeah.
I mean, he started back in August of 2022.
He has sporadically done different billboards in Times Square because he's got way too much money.
With his Russian-funded web show.
Two weeks ago, very similar to what Matt Walsh did for his Borat-cribbing feature film, Am I Racist?
Best film ever, dude.
Steven hit the streets of Dallas wearing a liberal costume.
Nice.
Consciously unbiased for the Open Minds of America network, hosted by Whistleblower52.
What the fuck is this?
Yeah, I guess I'll send that to Jared, too.
What is that?
Is that a prosthetic nose?
Prosthetic nose, a vest with a t-shirt.
Yeah, and change.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, I usually wear that vest.
What the fuck is this?
I thought he was anti-trans.
Now he's just going around dressed like he's...
Oh my god.
I don't even know.
This is ridiculous.
Yeah, super annoying stuff.
Maybe we'll drop the picture.
Yeah, I mean, he just wants an excuse to dress up like a woman.
Pictures of this are going to be on our Twitter account, of course, at Van Crowder.
Really annoying.
Also super awkward.
Did you watch the video of it?
Oh, I watched the whole thing, unfortunately.
Too long.
Matt Walsh is kind of a good actor.
I don't want to, like, give him too many toots.
I mean, yeah, I think he just stays in...
I think he is a character.
Yeah, and Stephen does not in this.
No, okay.
Not even a little.
Well...
Off the watch.
Actually, kind of a little.
I'll play some clips in a second, actually.
Stephen, in a costume, bothered a very, very nice, very patient man who immigrated from Columbia...
Talk to him about this billboard behind him, which is, I think it's on the side of the Sheridan in Dallas.
Very large.
It says, Build the Wall, Change My Mind.
That has an obscured advertisement for their actual show.
Yeah, you can't see.
They should have thought more about that.
Hey, this is Whistleblower52 for Open Minds of America.
Talking with marginalized communities on why hate has no place in Texas.
Nope.
Or America.
Nope.
Or on Earth.
What do you think so far?
That accent is so dumb.
Yeah, it's kind of the stuff I watch on a regular basis.
Hey, what's up?
This is Dennis here on the podcast.
It's stupid.
Very dumb stuff.
You notice that while you're here?
We're asking because a lot of people in the city are upset about it.
We're trying to get the city to take it down.
All right, how do you see it?
Do you think that has any place in the city here?
That kind of hate?
Which one?
Which one are you talking about?
No, not the Amazon.
They're great.
Oh, okay, I'm sorry.
Hell yes.
Yeah, no, it's Bezos.
He does a lot of good.
So is that talking about the, like, Donald Trump type of wall?
Yeah, the border wall.
He said we should build a wall, you know, change my mind, like, have a conversation about it, but, like, I mean, people coming to the city, they're going to think it's a city of hate.
But if you ask me, you know, I don't agree with that position, but I think that they are in their right to express their opinion.
But yeah, I find it repulsive, yes.
But you think it should be allowed to stay up?
Yes, yes, I think so.
Yes, even though I find it repulsive.
Why do you, but if it's repulsive, like, why do you think it should be able to stay up?
I mean, it's still, it's hate speech.
Yeah, but they're expressing their opinion.
I hope that if I express my opinion and someone else finds my opinion repulsive that I will still be able to express it.
Okay, so you're old school with that.
What do you think about it?
Because right now, both candidates do.
When at first we were protesting, Donald Trump always said build the wall, but now Kamala Harris says she's going to build one too.
It's so funny.
He doesn't know how to handle that.
He has a skewed idea of what actual liberal people believe.
He thinks they're like, yeah, that's offensive.
I'm going to rip it down and my hair is always blue.
It comes out that way.
Yeah.
It's so dumb.
Yeah, he's surprised.
He's like, wait a second.
Wait, this person says that I have the right to say the things I do?
Let me try and trick him into hating Kamala.
And he put this out.
He's the one that looks like a full-blown dunce in this.
Wow.
I can't get over the way he looks.
Yeah, it is tough to look at.
Yeah.
I don't like it very much.
But yeah, Kamala has consistently opposed Trump's border wall, calling it useless, stupid, and un-American on numerous occasions.
But She does support a bipartisan border security bill that includes some funding of the border wall construction, which is not the same as saying that now she wants to build a wall.
Yeah, she wants to build Trump's wall and make Mexico pay for it, dude.
Well, actually, she allocated, what, $650 million for border wall construction, which Trump won at $18 billion.
Sure.
But also the funding, it was already appropriated during the Trump administration, so there'd be no new allocations of funds.
It's obviously it's not true that people believe that liberals are just like, yeah, no borders.
Maybe it's a loudest voices type situation because there are certainly people who scream all kinds of stuff.
Yeah.
Like the way that the Democrats want to solve the issue of the border is like make processing easier and more efficient and make it so there are more judges who can hear asylum claims.
Yeah, we need to fix the asylum.
Yeah, because people are going to come here regardless.
And if you just don't let them in, then it's not quite that simple.
The whole argument around it is just skewed because no one seems to understand what actually is going on when they're talking about this, and I agree that it's just a vocal minority of people that are saying this stuff.
The one thing that I know is the conservative messaging apparatus is very good.
That's the one thing that when they want to control a message around these kinds of things, it's very easy to mobilize that demographic of folks to do that for them.
The whole argument around like immigration, right?
Is it like 60% of these people that are here were here on work visas anyway?
So it's like we know who these people are in some regard.
They're just overstaying, right?
They're in a system.
Yeah, yeah.
And so it's a lot less complicated than I think a lot of people think it is.
Well, Kamala went to, you know, like, what are they called?
Like, the Golden Triangle countries and said, like, you know, don't come here.
That is also something that happened that, like, decreased migration significantly by, like, 200,000 people.
And they're saying, like, projecting 700,000 people initially.
So...
I don't know.
I really...
He doesn't understand what real people believe.
He doesn't.
No, so it's just like, if you know, I don't know, it just depends on who you're talking to.
And that's kind of the main thing, right?
Like, I maybe know more than somebody else, but maybe I know way less than somebody else.
But not keeping that into any kind of perspective of, like, if you're seeking out confirmation bias, it's very easy to get, right?
Oh, you're in occupied Texas.
We don't know where...
No, I think he says he's in Austin.
Yeah, I'm in Austin.
You probably know more about the border than Steve, that's all I'm saying.
Okay, so I live in Austin, and I know people whose primary language is Spanish and not English.
And I can't actually say this to any sort of definitive, but most of the people that I know that are primarily speaking Spanish are here legally.
There might be a case here or there that are not.
Frankly, I don't really care.
Honestly, it's not really that...
much of a priority to me but we don't really have that bad of a problem here as far as like and I would almost say like at or at all really to be honest like I'm trying to just give like any sort of like credit to this no I don't need to uh I don't see any sort of problem with like migration in Austin as we are closer to the border than Stephen is and this is just allegory obviously but like There are people that I know who live closer to the border who
are Trump voters as a prerequisite for why they may color this information.
But even the stuff when they come here and they wreck our culture from Mexico, through the Mexico border or whatever, it's like...
They're pointing to maybe, like, I don't know, in a community of 50,000 people, something like 35 people that they can, like, think of, and reliably only, like, five or six that they saw that week, you know?
And to no understanding, actually, if those people are here illegally or not.
It's just sort of like...
We know what it's really about.
It's just a big old dog whistle.
We know what it's really about.
We know what it's about.
It's bullshit.
This shit sucks.
Steven, I really want him to do this again just because it's so bad.
This is available online?
Yeah, he left this online.
Where do you find it?
It's on his YouTube and...
I'm going to watch it tonight.
It's called, Is Steven Crowder's Build the Wall Billboard Hate Speech?
Whistleblower 52 Investigates.
He wants to be a victim so bad.
He was so surprised when he was like, yeah, you can do that.
It's fine.
Yeah, it's totally fine.
Whistleblower52, come in.
Let's jump back to the studio, where the gang is still celebrating Times Square with authentic New York-style music.
Oh.
Benjamin, it's from here.
And send me your pictures.
You can send them to me on Instagram or on the X and hashtag election livestream of the century.
You best believe my petty self went to see what New York City mug clubbers sent over.
Hashtag election livestream of the century.
Such a long hashtag.
30 characters!
It's so long.
Election livestream of the century?
Not like LWC election stream or something?
LWC LOTC. Ridiculous.
So, Instagram, nothing.
With the hashtag.
Nope.
And no photos tagged on Stevens.
A lot of troll-y things were tagged to his, though, as well.
Big-breasted women.
Probably AI-generated?
I don't really know what the heck's going on over there, but...
Yeah, then I bounced over to the home of free speech, unless you're journalist Ken Klippenstein, whose J.D. Vance story was taken down at the request of Donald Trump directly and handled by Elon Musk.
I heard that was inappropriate to do that, though.
Interesting you'd say that.
Yeah.
What are you trying to say?
It's hypocritical?
Maybe a little.
We've got a little action here on Twitter, and by that I mean one person.
Nice.
This is Moshe Lash first response to Stephen's request for people to get out and go over to the Times Square program.
Times Square has roving gangs of Venezuelans now.
Bad time to visit, but I'll walk over soon to support Mug Club.
Any other New Yorks want to head over?
DM me.
I could be there at 1230.
Nice.
Trying to get a gang together, dude?
Yeah, a roving gang.
Yep.
That was Mug Clubbers.
Then, followed it up, he made it.
I made the schlep to represent hashtag Mug Club in New York's...
Through the pungent bum piss, wafting weed puffs, even saw the naked cowboy, which he, I guess, doesn't know that the naked cowboy supports Trump.
Does he?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not surprised.
I'd like to apologize for getting Melissa Milano in the shot.
Melissa?
Oh, Melissa, sorry.
That was my bad, not his.
A phone videography ain't my thing.
And then he's got some videos, some pictures, and Gerald A. responded...
My man!
Great meeting you in NY! Because I think you probably met him at the Varma thing.
Oh yeah, Big Varma.
Yeah, when they were trying to turn New York red.
They did turn New York red.
Conversation.
14 points ahead, dude.
Steps of the town hall, yeah.
Johnny Garlicks, is that what that's called?
Wait, what?
Johnny Carnino's?
Yeah, they went to Johnny Camino's.
I guarantee you, if there was a large group of mug clovers, they would have went to the Times Square Olive Garden.
They definitely would have been familiar.
This person, though, also giving some recommendations for if he's down in the area.
This is America First Vote Trump!
Flag emoji.
Says, if you like metal music, head over to Duff's in Brooklyn.
Less than 40 minutes was it?
40 minutes is such a crazy thing to say.
It's so close.
It's just 40 minutes.
20 miles.
It's not 40, actually.
Sorry, it's in Jersey.
Then rock on hand devil head.
Rock hand hashtag MAGA. A link to Duff's in Brooklyn.
And then Mosh says, more of a classic rock kind of guy, but I appreciate the recommendation.
Nice.
I found another tweet where someone said, I can't make it, but you should have sticks on your show sometime.
So I thought, huh, this is suspicious.
It's almost as if Steven doesn't have the youthful audience that people think he does.
I don't know.
They turn out in droves.
It's weird because it seems like everyone that's involved directly...
No, everyone that listens to my show is born after my references.
That's weird to say because it seems like everyone's talking about classic rock and they all have these very, I don't know, surface-level conservative beliefs that would represent someone maybe in their mid-40s.
Hey, man, do you like Coors Light?
Yeah.
Come on down.
No, my guys are also Logan's Paul guys, so...
And that's, yeah, I mean, that could be it.
That could be the big sponsor for the, what is it, the election stream of the century?
Prime.
Could be Prime.
I'll just throw that out there.
It could be.
Yeah, I really wanted to make sure that I was being honest in my journalism here because I know that we omitted potentially two or three costumes during Cultural Appropriation Month because I didn't click that.
Misspelt hashtags or something?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was something silly that I don't know.
There were the three Chipotle ones?
Is that what you're...
Something went wrong.
But then this guy, Desticon, confirmed my thoughts saying, 2.3 million followers and you got exactly one guy to take a photo.
Yeah.
LMFAO. It's true.
It seems like you bought a Times Square billboard hoping that people would be riding surfboards on this red wave that had entered the city.
Casey Ness, that rolls up on an e-board.
They're on their one wheel.
Yeah, rolling through Times Square.
Weaving through traffic?
Not even like by Rockefeller, just kind of like a few blocks down.
In his head, this was like an opportunity where people would come together and snap these selfies.
And you know, it would really pay for itself, Gerald.
Exactly.
You know he's trying really hard to sell him on spending all this cash.
That's so funny.
The guys in finances are just like holding all these receipts and just shrugging.
Steven, we can't do this, baby!
We don't got the green for it!
I have a feeling it won't be up very long unless they have a contract, which typically they would, Dennis.
Maybe a month?
I mean, a month, maybe probably a minimum, but yeah.
Cool.
If you're in New York, why don't you go take a funny selfie of you guys giving it the middle finger or something?
Yeah, if we can get more posts than him.
That would be kind of cool.
Imagine if we had three people take pictures and he has one.
Wow, that would be really sad.
That would be so sick, though, for us.
I'd feel like we were reaching people if they were taking pictures for us.
I also know this great place.
It's about three hours away.
Yeah, it's less than three hours away called Johnny Carnino's.
Yeah, it's this great Italian restaurant.
Jonathan Carnino's.
Great.
But yeah, quickly, although they've been begging folks to sign up for Mug Club to fund this election livestream of the century, it wouldn't be influenced by networks or sponsors.
No sponsors, dude.
Soul Skaters.
Oh, they found a sponsor.
What?
Puppinsides?
By the way, we will be announcing, I guess maybe tomorrow or Thursday, a big sponsor for that election livestream of the century.
So VoterFront, I hate you.
But don't say we're announcing it.
We'll just announce it.
It's building momentum.
Alright, okay.
Just not able to yet.
Unless it falls through.
Then we won't be.
I love this hilarious infighting about whether or not they should announce it in advance.
Yeah, it's petty.
Steven loves doing that.
Steven's like, next Monday, the biggest announcement ever.
I'm voting for Trump.
It's polymarket.
It's polymarket.
It is.
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
Oh, that's hilarious.
Polymarket is now sponsoring the election livestream of the century.
I was hoping it was going to be the nanotechnology toilet cleaner.
What, Bionic Boomers?
I got an ad for that.
Well, so that was a different one.
Bionic Boomers was for old people that want to get new knees through vitamins or something, and then...
Some sort of blue pill go down your throat.
Spinning graphics shows your knees regenerating.
Yeah, like on a spin.
And then there's a nanotechnology that your toilet foams up for 30 minutes, and it has rabies for 30 minutes, and then you flush it, and it scrapes all the limestone off of it, so all that weird bionic boomer you gotta flush.
Later on.
But really, the one I was hoping for was the Fireblaze, which is a lighter, but it uses Tesla electricity.
I actually did see that ad.
You can see it on Target and Amazon, apparently.
And the US government's trying to ban it, but they can't because it doesn't got no fucking lighter fluid, dude.
It's so sick.
And because they use a VPN. Yeah, also because it masks your identity on the internet.
You gotta find me first.
Well, I do have some details surrounding this live stream that they announced on Twitter.
Announcement.
Election livestream of the century, the Rumble on Rumble.
For the first time in history, you will not need mainstream legacy media for full election night coverage.
You only need us.
That's crazy.
I remember 2016 and 2020.
I'd definitely turn on CNN and watch that.
Of course.
That's exactly what you did.
We will feature a cutting-edge, crowdsourced election integrity map.
Wait.
Wait, crowdsourced election integrity map.
There's a problem here.
Huh, that's weird.
What about when my crowd don't have no integrity?
Did you guys consider that?
That's a great question.
We should pose that.
Using real-time qualitative data vetted and verified live by in-house journalist moderators.
They have no idea what the fuck they've been talking about.
That's Noodle.
Yeah, Noodle.
Noodle's on the data.
All right.
The election integrity map will display live video and photographic reports submitted by the Mug Club Army citizen journalists highlighting election anomalies.
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
Coast to coast.
You gotta watch out because these guys got freaking zip ties in their back pockets.
Samsungs, too.
And Swiss Army knives!
So here's my prediction.
My prediction is all that they're going to be doing on this coverage, live streaming a hashtag feed.
Oh, that could be.
Yeah.
So we need to troll it, right?
Well, they're...
Well...
Well, let me wrap this up and then we'll talk about our plans.
We will have boots on the ground from our Mug Club Undercover Investigative Journalism Unit.
That's the MCUIJU. The McWeegee.
The McWeegee.
And then most importantly, we'll have special guests like Dan Bongino.
Oh, my uncle's friend, Dan.
That's true.
I forget that your uncle is good friends with Dan Bongino.
He's giving him like $30, $40 a week, at least.
Rusty Rockets is Russell Brand.
Oh, really?
Yes.
Oh, no.
Patrick Bett David will be there.
Tim Cast.
The Quartering.
Oh, God.
He's coming back.
Real Alex Jones.
And more to be announced.
Yes.
Yeah, we vow to stay live.
This is really interesting.
Until the election is officially called.
Nice, dude.
Three days.
Three days.
And they could be there for a week.
What is the definition of election being called?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
But they're saying they are the only ones who are able to call it now.
Oh, so they're calling it.
Yeah, they're like, it's good enough.
Trump won.
Yeah.
You guys were asking about the election police.
It's us!
Yeah.
Let's do this.
And Steven, I gotta say, yeah, excited to do it.
We'll be in the Shrugtuation Room.
The Shrugtuation Room.
I won't be, but yeah.
Well, for three fucking days, too, at least.
I vow to never stop live streaming.
Yeah, I won't.
So much fun.
Yeah.
I actually, I chatted with the on-brand folks over the weekend, and it sounds like they might be popping in to do some talking head stuff with us.
Are we doing live stream videos?
What do you mean?
With them?
Live stream?
They're going to pop in and...
Only on woke YouTube.
Exactly, yeah.
Maybe some other folks.
I bumped DJ Danarchy and I got a...
Oh, I want to meet DJ Danarchy so bad.
I feel like I'm meeting celebrities.
I'm starstruck by them.
They're incredible folks and I'm really excited.
We're also going to have Russell Brand on the show.
Nice.
We're going to confuse them.
We could probably get Rob Schneider.
We gotta trick Schneider.
Gotta get Schneids, dude.
Can we trick Rob Schneider into thinking he's coming on Crowder's show?
Probably we could.
Either way, it's gonna be fun.
And like Jared said, wokeyoutube.com.
Make sure to follow and subscribe there to know when we go live.
And yeah, more details coming soon.
We'll have an actual time.
I don't even know if I want to talk about this.
We've got the big annoying story of the night.
Yeah, I know I mentioned at the top of this episode that Crowder was boring, and just now that he's annoying, I wasn't joking.
We tried to make their segment on non-citizens voting palatable, but we can't.
Perform those kinds of miracles, so it was cut for time.
But if you want to hear the 30-some minutes of us trying to make it tolerable, and there's some funny bits in there too, but yeah, it's available for you at shrug.club for free.
On with the rest of the show.
How many people were involved in these cases?
This is a very serious, very fast-moving legal situation.
It's a good idea.
How you feeling?
You look tired.
I feel like shit.
You feel hopeless?
Yeah.
That's why people feel hopeless.
And I'm not saying don't go out and vote, because if the chasm is so wide, all these tricks are not enough.
But I have told you it's lie, lie, lie, lie, cheat.
We are getting to that point when there is a 14-point spread on the betting odds.
Cheat.
That's the Hunter Biden laptop.
Social media algorithms.
Suppressing ivermectin research.
We'll do another segment on that.
Suppressing the idea that it could have come from a lab.
Suppressing CDC numbers as far as flu deaths with children compared to COVID. Suppressing evidence that may show you that the mRNA injection, I don't want to say vaccine, could result in some complications.
Suppress, suppress.
It's lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.
When people don't believe the lie anymore.
Cheat!
Wait, how do you cheat in all those things that he was saying beyond the election?
Dude, you cheat the ivermectin.
Oh.
Okay?
Okay.
You cheat it.
Sure, after lying, lying, lying, lying, lying.
Exactly.
Simple.
He's on fire.
He's on fire.
What does he think he wants his people to do?
He wants to make it too big to rig.
Okay.
I guess I'm glad we went through it, but yeah, I don't think we gained much.
Pretty boring.
And the media is in lockstep on these cases.
I didn't know that we had won 75% of the cases that were brought and actually hurt on the merits.
What you hear the media parrot is the 61 number.
61 cases were brought and defeated.
That's what they parrot on every single show that has addressed this that I've ever heard.
61 cases, 61 cases.
Somebody needs to be telling them, 24 out of 32 decided on the merit, we won.
That's what people need to hear because I heard it and I actually got a little down.
I'm like, oh crap, well they brought 61 cases.
I know a lot weren't even heard of the merits, but we didn't win one.
We didn't get anything out of this.
Texas banded with other states' attorneys general to try to sue Pennsylvania, and we got nothing from the Supreme Court because they basically disenfranchised Texas voters in other states by changing their constitution illegally to vote?
Like, 24 of 32, you won 75% of the time when the cases were heard on the merits.
Take that and make sure everybody hears it.
I mean, if you're going to be saying facts you think people need to be repeating, you should also get it right.
Yes.
The 75% of the 93, 24 out of 32 cases was 75%.
Yeah, well, also, some of these just don't seem clear.
Let's see this one here.
Election official accused of fraud, marked as green, marked as yes, decided on the merits, and it says plaintiff withdrew complaint.
Is that a win?
It doesn't really seem like it, but the case is closed.
Yeah, right?
Just because there's a win in the courtroom doesn't mean it's a win for the cause.
We're looking at election-integrity.info.
Stephen's source for all this information.
Nice.
Let's look at one more.
The very first one.
What do we got here?
The first win here?
The first one, let's see here.
Misleading info regarding absentee ballots?
And there was a motion granted for a temporary restraining order.
That's a big win for voters fraud, dude.
All right.
Big win for fraud.
It's stupid.
I would love to go through all these one day, because all of these are attached case files.
It'd be interesting to see what exactly these lawsuits that he was alleging are.
I like that this one was labeled as partial victory, and it says, note, plaintiff was Democratic Party.
Huh, it's fine.
It's just, it's being dishonest.
I love that he's like, they say 62, 62, or 61, 61, 61, 61.
But of those 61, of those 32, 24 are, well, it's just...
It's sweaty.
There is not this, like, widespread fraud, me and all of my toes are voting separately kind of a thing.
It's just, it's bullshit.
Yep.
After this very serious segment about election integrity and...
You mean after the stand-up comedy bit we just listened to?
Oh, sure.
The whole set?
There was a real stand-up comedy bit.
It was a five-minute ad for nasal spray.
Oh, hell yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
You can get a lot in in five minutes, I feel like.
It drags.
They had a character named Hobo Teddy come in the room.
They played a game where they were supposed to guess what Hobo Teddy bathed in, and the winner would get what was in Hobo Teddy's pocket.
So they were struggling to identify what Hobo Teddy had bathed in.
And is Hobo a bad...
I think it's a bad thing to say.
It's not polite.
I don't think they're really saying it.
Yeah.
This nasal spray really opens up their nasal passages, and then Stephen is, of course, able to identify what it was.
Okay.
I don't recall what it was.
Something offensive, probably.
Something, yeah, probably rude.
Yeah, they wrap up this ad, but it is long.
Yeah, it sounds like it.
You know, if your show is the only ad that you can get, the only sponsor is a nasal spray company, that's interesting.
I thought it was Bionic Boomer, and that's like the huff pill that you gotta take or whatever.
Well, it also could kill coronavirus.
What?
But they can't say that.
By the way, they're actually in a lawsuit because it was proven to be effective in reducing the viral load of COVID by something like 90-something percent.
They're allowed to make the claim.
They're just not allowed to make the claim on radio, I believe.
COVID on radio because it's a separate FCC thing.
Yikes.
This is like colloidal silver, Alex Jones-level shit.
Yeah, right?
When COVID comes back, be ready.
Damn.
Put it in your nose.
We do have to talk about one more topic before we go, unfortunately.
This brings us back to the beginning, Dennis, with Nate Gold.
Nathan Gold, yeah.
Polls are getting worse and worse for Democrats.
And there is a major trend here that could possibly be, and nothing is surefire.
Are you waving because of the smell?
Yes, it fucking rakes in here now.
Sorry.
I mean, there was puppies.
Yeah, okay.
So, what was I talking about?
Oh yeah, voter fraud.
You know that thing.
This next indicator may be the most reliable indicator that you can use as far as a predictor of this election.
And if you are to use it, there's pretty much a, call it 95 plus percent chance that Donald Trump wins the Electoral College.
What do you think it is?
Probably that ad thing.
Poly whatever.
No, but it's not that.
That'd be great.
Yeah.
I mean, it's part of that.
I mean, kind of.
It's polls, but it's very specific polls and very specific points.
No account to the Electoral College at all.
Okay.
This is a boring clip, and it's pretty long.
Okay.
Some history here as far as these trends, right?
Party identification, meaning this is what we're using right now.
Party identification, not necessarily registration.
We're using the same methodology.
Gallup is.
Yeah.
As they have used before.
We're going to use the numbers from Q3, right, the third quarter before the election.
Q3, Gallup.
2020, Democrats were plus five.
Democrats won the popular vote by 4.4.
So within one point of that, okay, 2016, Democrats, according to Gallup, they were plus three.
Democrat won the popular vote by 2.1% within one point.
And of course, Republican won the Electoral College.
That's what I'm telling you.
Anything all the way up to Democrats plus three, if we play it conservatively, Democrats plus two, the Republican wins the Electoral College.
2012, Gallup had Democrats plus four.
Democrat won the national popular vote by 3.9%.
Wow, that's close.
2008.
Democrat plus 8.
It won the popular vote by plus 15%.
In that case, that was one of the outliers because it was Barack Obama.
2004 was tied.
They had actually Republicans up by a little, well, Republicans by.0 something, so a statistical tie.
The popular vote was won, actually, by a Republican 2.46%.
So again, it's within that two, three points, that margin of error.
Let's go back to, that was 2004.
2000.
Let me look at my notes here.
His notes say Democrats were plus five, popular vote was.51, and Bush won.
He doesn't know what he's doing at all with his polling information.
He found a trend in some data in Q3 of the Gallup polls that he thinks, like the keys, remember that guy who has successfully guessed president for the past whatever?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Using the keys.
This is his key.
It's the Stevens.
And Stevens are just based on Q3 Gallup polls and the outcomes.
And just, you know, hey, they're close enough.
Exactly.
It's between one and three points.
And also, to be very clear, 2008, 2012, you know, 2004, all those elections were hugely different states-wise.
Yeah, very unique.
Yeah.
We're more polarized now.
That's a huge deal.
And we also have more information than ever.
So much more.
And there's a lot of women who are going to be voting huge in this election.
It's going to make a huge impact.
This is his 95 or higher percent odds for Trump.
99%.
Yep.
Okay.
The work, dude.
Yeah, I guess you gotta take big swings.
We're the 1% now, Byron.
That's what he's trying to say.
All right, this fucking rules now.
No, I feel like I'm gonna trust most of the forecasts that I've seen, and they all kind of point towards somewhere around 50% on each side.
Well, I think that none of them can predict how big the outcome in voting will be.
It's tough to say.
We don't really know, because last time was post-COVID, considered a very high-stakes election.
This one doesn't.
Do you ever wait for it to be like...
You know, every year, this is the most important election of a lifetime.
I mentioned that earlier, right?
Yeah, they say it every time.
This one just doesn't feel like it has the pizzazz as the last one.
Or the one before.
I think it does.
Or the one before.
You think?
I think it does, yeah.
I don't really know.
I think Roe v.
Wade is huge.
It is huge.
I agree in some ways, but in others, I've seen just abysmal numbers.
I don't know.
But it's polls.
It's not voter turnout.
Voter turnout's going to be big this year, I think.
We just don't know.
I'm 95% sure, though.
But the betting odds, dude.
The betting odds will tell you everything you need to know, bro.
I'm going to do a Stephen poll real quick about it.
Yeah?
Do you remember when that kid went to the freaking dentist and they gave him the laughing gas or whatever and he's like, I feel funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
David after dentist or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's him.
David after dentist.
Yeah.
And he sits up and screams.
Yeah, classic, right?
When I think of what's going on with this election cycle, I feel like that child.
You just sit up in your chair and hold yourself by your hands and scream.
Yeah, that's how I've been feeling about the whole thing.
It's been pretty bad.
It's as close as you get apples to apples in this kind of a sphere right now.
And Republicans are up by a margin that they have not seen really in two decades.
They're up by three with Gallup.
There is no world in which Donald Trump does not win the Electoral College, and very likely the popular vote, unless for the first time Gallup has a huge swing and a miss since the year 2000.
Stephen doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
He has no idea.
The race is close.
Yeah.
It's not.
The Republicans are not, like, mind-blowingly ahead.
I don't think so.
But, I mean, to hell with the questions, man.
Let's listen to music.
Excuse me?
Let's turn on music.
Can we do the YMCA? That's a great point.
We should listen to 38 minutes of a cool playlist I put together.
Is playing the wrong Ave Maria.
Uh-oh.
What's this?
Play the other one.
What's this?
Oh, that's actually just about all I can handle this week.
Nice.
If you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
We sold a convince us otherwise hat this week.
Hey!
Nice.
They're playing the wrong David after dentist.
This is damn Daniel after the dentist.
Oh, I would watch that all day.
Saw some really nice reviews and ratings on Apple Podcasts, and of course we love those stars on Spotify.
This is from MattMcCann1.com.
It says, M-pox outbreak in 2022.
Five stars.
There was an M-pox outbreak in the gay community back in 2022, and I can attest the T-pox vaccine was an actual lifesaver for U.S. citizens as recently as two years ago.
It spreads to everyone, not just us gays.
Thanks for pushing back against disinformation.
Hell yeah.
Thank you.
Thanks for checking it out.
We don't know what the fuck we're talking about, but I'm glad that we really kind of helped.
And we strive to learn.
We strive to learn.
And you've helped us learn today, Matt McCain.
Yeah, wow.
Appreciate that.
Appreciate all of you listeners and really, really looking forward to hanging in the structuration room.
With all of y'all.
I'll be in the Delta Sky Club.
I am voting, and then I am leaving.
Okay, well, you'll be on the phone.
But I'll be in the country still.
Yeah, yeah.
Provided the country doesn't burn down on the evening of the election.
Yeah, let's just hope that none of these MC Army folks cause any real trouble.
Who knows?
We'll be there together hanging out live at wokeyoutube.com.
Until then, though, you can find us on x at thencrowder, louderthancrowder.com, louderwithcrowder.net.