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Sept. 1, 2024 - Louder Than Crowder
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EPISODE 40: THE DEEP FRIED STATE (SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2010 & AUGUST 15TH, 2024)

This week pre-election intentions become clear as the LwC boys add their media peers to the enemy list...while also talking mostly about hot wings.  Do you think Steven dips his in ketchup?  Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub  Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com

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This is an AudioWool original.
Steven Crowder.
Hmm, who's he?
Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast Louder with Crowder.
My name's Byron.
I'm joined this Sunday evening by Dennis.
Praise be to he.
Jared, too?
I'm missing the new Simpsons for this.
That's so sad.
Although last week I teased we'd be discussing why Steven thinks Fox News is no longer conservative, the more I thought about it, the more I was like, I don't love it.
And since it's my birthday tomorrow, I thought it might be fun to give myself a present by covering an episode from the archive that took place on my birthday, of which there were two.
I like that you're just coming out and saying that it's your birthday instead of dropping sly little hints like this little fucker over here.
Making us look bad and feel bad.
I knew it was Byron's birthday before today.
Thanks man.
Only because I've been dumped on Byron's birthday multiple times by the same person.
Yeah, that is true.
Yeah, you do have some dark memories attached to it.
Yeah, dark memories associated with Byron's birthday.
Wow.
The first option was from 2021, an Ash Wednesday episode.
This is where they dim the lights and roast some gars.
More intimate, long-form conversations.
And the subject of this episode in particular, why comedy is more important than ever.
The guests Welcome to Ash Wednesday.
Today is I guess a comedy roundtable.
Of course you know Dave Landau and one of the funniest men alive and I've talked about this quite a bit and I don't think he's upset when I say I put him in the company of like Norm MacDonald because that's that's a compliment but Nick DiPaolo is here and your people can go listen to your podcast Uncensored.
Is it The Comics Gym?
Thecomicsgym.com or nickdip.com but The Comics Gym is the permanent home that I've been chased to.
Right.
Nick Dipp sounds more Nick Dipp than ever before.
Well, this is before he went full loose.
He's so Eastern.
The way that he phrased this, it made me think, is he saying that Landau is as funny as Norm, or is he saying that Nick Dipp is funny?
He would never dare say that.
The way that he phrased it, it made my eyebrow do a little... To be honest, everyone on the show is as funny as Norm Macdonald.
And they're all funnier than Steven.
And that's, wait, I couldn't watch Steven continue pretending to be an equal in this room of two working but still borderline comedians.
It reminded me, there's a moment in an episode, it was February 16th of 2010, Greg Gutfeld's Red Eye.
Remember that program?
Yeah.
This clip, I'm considering to be a bit of a stretch to even bring up, but it's another birthday present to myself.
It helps form a bond stronger than something really strong.
I speak not of polident, but of abstinence.
At least according to a young man named Stephen Crowder.
Hmm, who's he?
Who argues in his latest call that abstinence is kind of awesome.
So this is two years before Stephen would pen a legendarily cringe column called Waiting Till the Wedding Night Getting Married the Right Way.
Nice.
Jared and I have talked a little bit about it.
We're Obviously gonna do a full episode.
It's also a terrible headline for that article.
It's not great, yeah.
We're gonna cover it eventually.
Great, I look forward to it.
But in this red-eye abstinence hit two years prior, comedian Amy Schumer was also on the panel.
She hit Steven back after he called her a dirty comic in a pretty delightful way.
Oh great.
Abstinence is the one taboo issue regarding sex.
I mean, it's like, oh, it'd be a dirty stand-up comic.
You're cracking a new ground there, Copernicus.
But once you talk about abstinence, everyone all of a sudden, they put you, like, right now, we have to talk about it.
Because who is this kid who's talking about abstinence, who, you know?
Well, it's who is this kid who's, you know, 23.
You don't know who you're going to be sexually yet.
So to talk about it with such authority and arrogance... I don't know who I'm going to be what?
You don't know who you're going to be sexually yet.
You're going to be into really weird things in about a decade.
Oh, I have no doubt.
I have no doubt.
Trust me.
And the thing is, there should be no confidence.
You slip by the dirty comedian thing, but honestly, you call yourself a comedian, but you don't do it that much.
I go fishing a couple times a year, but I don't introduce myself on TV as a fisherman.
Wow.
This is really personal for a concept about abstinence.
I fucking love that so much.
That's really hilarious.
Yeah.
That riff's good for her.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I don't follow Amy Schumer too much anymore, but that was very nice to hear.
Feels like that was a better time, when Amy Schumer was still popular.
Yeah.
He was 23?
23, yeah.
Wow.
No one likes you when.
He sounded so, like, church groupie.
Yeah, I mean, remember, he's the Christian boy on the show to talk about abstinence, so.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
How did he say it?
He's like, I'm the abstinence guy.
I mean, that's kind of his vibe, right?
How does he feel?
Like, I know how he feels, but how does it work if you get a divorce?
Do you have to, like, restart the abstinence thing?
Do you have to wait till your second marriage?
I'm born again abstinent.
Yeah, are you born again abstinent?
Yeah, I think so.
I think that's how it works.
Just, like, sucks it back in.
My other birthday option, uh, it's from the year 2020.
Okay.
The episode was titled, The Kenosha Protest Turned Fatal.
Good vibes.
Yeah, which is the day following Kyle Rittenhouse's mass shooting.
Also, also featuring George Floyd's autopsy report.
So then I started thinking maybe that episode about woke Fox News isn't that bad after all.
So that's what we're covering.
Oh great, we're back to it, okay.
Back to August 15th.
Good, good.
Full circle.
Thank you.
Oh man, I was a little worried there.
I didn't drive through Kenosha.
I mean, I just drove through.
I was on my way through.
Great story, Dennis.
Thanks.
Did you see Kyle Brittenhouse?
No, but do you guys remember when Fox News doxed his PlayStation user name?
Gamertag, yeah.
Yeah, that was awesome.
So kick things off with a list or joke.
What does Kamala Harris, Iran, Fox News going woke, the economy, and stolen chicken wings, what do they all have in common?
It's all in today's show.
We're going to be talking about that.
Bring up the rundown.
Spoiler.
Nice.
It's a real lazy day in the writer's room.
Wow.
Rough.
Wow.
Not great.
Stolen chicken wings.
Well, this I'm interested in.
Well, all I want here is the chicken wings.
I'm in.
Boys, that's mostly what we're talking about today.
Great.
Oh, yes.
But I have another spoiler, Tim.
We're not going to be talking about Iran.
Okay.
They basically say that because there wasn't an assassination plot to kill Kamala, and there was for Trump, that the mainstream media is lying and saying that they're both being targeted, even though it's a fact that there's attempted hacks of both taking place.
Somehow, someone from Trump's team was successfully hacked.
I wonder what kind of phishing email those dunces opened up.
So that's what they're saying is that Kamala's lying about being targeted?
They're just saying that the mainstream media is doing a false equivalency about the amount of targeting that Iran is making of both political candidates.
I haven't heard about targeting really other than Trump's.
Well yeah, there was a failed assassination plot but Trump's team was hacked and that's why that JD Vance dossier Okay.
out okay there was attempted hacks proven of kamala as well and uh i mean i don't know i guess they're not attempting to they're not plotting an assassination of her because she's not the president yeah not yet i mean maybe when she's president and then like does a drone strike on someone in iran maybe then they would try to uh hit the montage music and then put something together either way it's just not worth it's just not worth talking about
in my opinion all of this iran talk is just election meddling setup of course yeah oh it's illegitimate because this is worse than any russian interference ever was in an election all right yeah damn They'll come back to it.
Already?
Yeah.
This is Russia times a hundred.
What the hell?
What are they gonna do about it?
Honestly, I don't know.
They're gonna come back to it.
Join the Muglow Army and find out, bro.
I imagine we will too.
So you've heard a joke.
Now it's time for a question.
What do you think is the greatest indicator of inflation?
You can comment below.
I say chicken wings.
I'll get into that.
I have a whole segment on chicken wings.
That's not what we're doing today, but I have a whole segment.
I'm a chicken wing aficionado.
Oh, really?
Don't even get into it.
You're not even close.
How are you, Gerald?
I guess I'm fine.
I love chicken wings less than you, how are you?
We've learned a lot about each other over chicken wings.
What a stupid flex.
Yeah, and especially since he's most likely a Sweet Baby Ray's or a Frank's Red Hot Mild guy.
Probably.
No way!
What's your guys' order?
I like a classic buffalo.
I also like garlic, like a garlic parm.
I'm here for that.
I don't know.
I don't even like Parmesan, but I like garlic.
Not a lemon pepper guy?
Byron and I were big Three Mile Island at Hooters, guys.
Yeah, we did Hooters trivia.
We weren't there for the view.
We were there to win free $20 gift cards every week by cheating on our phone.
That's what Forge does, too.
Shameful, shameful time in my life.
Yeah.
I had to make ends meet.
I had wings yesterday.
Yeah?
Hot buffalo, five hot buffalo, five lemon pepper.
See, I just don't understand the lemon pepper thing.
You know what?
It's just good, man.
I don't know what it is.
If there was a Yuzu Kosho hot wing, I would hit that all day long.
I'm a hot barbecue guy.
Hot barbecue?
Like a spicy barbecue?
It's called hot barbecue.
Like natural hot?
No, I mean, I would do that, too.
We're just using different adjectives for the same thing.
But I mean, I think it's very true, though, that no matter what, Steven is the wing king.
I don't think that's true.
He said no one likes him more than he does.
Well, let's see how third chair likes him this week.
Okay.
He's wearing a prop neck brace and sitting in a wheelchair because, of course, this is a comedy show.
Oh no.
He's banned from X. So if HaloM on Instagram or JayFirestein.com was in a car crash this weekend, how are you, sir?
I'm doing excellent.
I feel fantastic.
Yep.
Yeah, I'm excited to talk about chicken wings.
I'm a flat guy myself.
You're a flat guy?
I'm a drum guy.
You're a drum guy?
I'm a flat guy.
Flat guy.
I like them both.
Really?
Equally?
Drums are fatty.
It's a little bit chewy.
Drums are fatty.
I think I don't have a strong preference either way.
I just can't eat the bits off the top.
Yeah.
It's difficult for me.
But Josh, almost a really flat guy.
Got in a pretty nasty car accident under 12.
And on the 13th, he showed up to work.
Tuba confused Steven, likely due to his narcissism.
He's been banned from X. So, go to jfirestein.com or follow him on Instagram.
Sorry about that, Josh.
How are you?
I'm alright.
I actually, I'm a little dizzy.
I got in a car wreck last night.
You did?
You got in a car wreck?
I got a wreck.
I got in a wreck.
Well, sorry.
Now I feel horrible.
Three car pileup.
You were in the pileup?
Yeah!
You didn't know I was in it?
I sent you the pictures.
No!
No!
Now I feel horrible.
I was very nonchalant about it because I thought you said I was going home and there was traffic because there was this pileup.
And I think I said something to the effect of like, yeah, bitch probably deserved it.
Oh my god.
It was me.
I was the bitch.
I am so sorry.
I thought you said a woman.
That was you?
No, I was in the front.
Yeah, that was... I thought you would know my car when I sent you the picture, but... I don't know everybody's car.
Yes, no.
I apologize.
I know your license plate is... No, I'm just kidding.
But yeah, it was in a three-car pileup, dude.
This lady fell asleep at the wheel and just didn't stop at a red light and just went right into a Jeep, this like 18-year-old kid behind me, and his Jeep smashed my Camry, so.
Ouch.
Everybody okay?
Uh, yeah, I don't know.
The lady was taking off in a stretch.
She was like, I felt bad for her.
I'll show you.
She was like this in her seat.
She went like this.
She saw us and she went... Uh-oh.
Seems like she may have a stutter.
Holy buckets.
It seems like Josh may have taken a picture of the woman.
It sounds like it.
Which is kind of unsettling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then Stephen said, sounds like she might have a stutter, implying that maybe now she's different than she was before the wreck?
Is that what he's saying?
Oh, could be.
Yeah.
Also, Stephen doesn't care about his employees at all.
Doesn't care at all.
And you know that Stephen gives Josh so much shit for his Camry.
But he's pretending that he doesn't recognize it?
He's driving over the roof of it with his Ford Raptor.
Yeah, he's like, hell yeah, dude!
I got this thing on a lift!
This is so confusing.
Like, Stephen didn't know that his employee got in an accident?
I thought that you would recognize my car in the picture.
I don't know what fucking car you drive.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Like, you've seen me every day for a year.
When I pull in, you see me pull in, man.
I mean, either he's a leave first or show up first kind of guy.
I don't know.
Do you think Steven just rolls in?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, he's not there at the crack of 4 a.m.
putting the potatoes in the microwave.
Yeah.
Reading the news.
He thinks that Josh just pulls over on the highway to send him a picture of a different accident.
Yeah, what kind of person would send someone an image of just like someone else's car wreck?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I'm a little dizzy right now.
Why are you there?
Well, it's funny because... Did you drive your wife's car?
Are you driving cars right now?
You're a little dizzy?
He actually, the next day, missed the show on the 14th, didn't show up because he was getting checked out at the hospital.
And it led me to wonder what the health care plan is at Louder With Crowder LLC.
Why would he wait two full days to go to the hospital?
I gotta say, like, if I was Josh's boss, I would stop the show.
I'd say, you gotta go.
You shouldn't be here, man.
If you're commuting to work and you get in a car accident... Why don't you put on the cow costume?
I'll whip you a little bit.
I'll give you a little bit of whipping.
I'll shoot the thing, you can get out of here.
That just, the whole thing kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
I mean, obviously thinking of you, Josh, we still think that you can rip Kord out of this at some point.
Yeah, Josh, you can get out, dude.
Not for much longer.
Well, this could be it, dude.
This could be like, he hits his head and he wakes up, and he's like Channing Tatum in The Vow, and he has to fall back in love with real comedy.
Wow.
Dang.
That's a movie.
We should pitch him.
Yeah, we'll pitch him.
Well, if you listeners thought we were done talking about hot wings, sorry, we're just getting started.
Chicago school worker was recently sentenced to nine years, and this has been picking up steam I think for reasons you can maybe guess once you see this, for stealing one and a half million dollars worth of chicken wings.
But here's the thing, what you're about to see is the actual report from the local - News. - This is the only thing that matters. - Well, it's that time for another edition of Crazy Ass Criminals.
Chasing chicken wing dreams during the pandemic was a mission Vera Liddell in Chicago was on, and the slick ass senior citizen had no chill.
Prosecutors say the Harvey School District Food Service manager stood on business.
She ordered over 11,000 cases of chicken wings that never touched the longing lips of any students.
The total loss to the damn district was $1.5 million.
So that's a real report?
That's a real report.
We live in idiocracy, man.
Yep, it all sucks and it's dumb.
Actually, this is a guy that we've heard a couple times doing our true crime livestream stuff.
This is Isaiah Carey.
Okay.
The voice did sound familiar.
The Isaiah Factor is his show.
I only remember Basic Blue.
The big problem, though, is it's a clear example of Stephen's racist fascination with stereotypes and folks who speak differently than him.
That's it.
Because why else would he do a segment on this if there wasn't this Isaiah episode where someone's talking in a culturally specific way?
Yeah, Stephen, he wants to focus on other things.
That sounds right to me.
Why else would he be covering chicken wings?
Yeah, slow news day, I guess, huh?
Over $18,000 worth of chicken wings a week.
That's a lot of chicken wings.
Here's the thing.
They don't serve chicken wings to the kids.
Uh-huh.
Because of choking hazard?
Yeah.
How did it go on for more than one order?
Love wings!
So this is clearly a patsy for the higher-ups.
Like, you'd think one person would go, all right, going through microwave pizzas, $18,000 in a food that we don't serve.
Hey, what's this about?
And it would be done.
He obviously has put no effort into researching the story at all.
Of course.
It's definitely more complicated than he's making it out to be.
Yes, of course it is.
Vera Liddell is her name.
She's a former food service director, which is clearly more than just being like a lunch lady.
No, woman, lunch, done.
Lunch lady.
Food service directors are in charge of menu planning, compliance and reporting, safety and sanitation, nutrition education, and most applicably in this situation, procurement and budget management.
Vera was hired as a consultant in July of 2020 until a replacement could be hired.
Also, this was during the pandemic as, you know, although students couldn't attend school in person, meals were still offered for pickup.
Yeah, it's nice.
Makes a lot of sense.
So she, quote, engaged in a pervasive embezzlement scheme by placing hundreds of unauthorized orders for food items, primarily chicken wings, with the school's district main purveyor, Gordon Food Service.
Better than ConAgra, I suppose, right?
Wait, what?
Is Gordon just as bad?
No, well, you know, our friend Gator.
Classic.
I miss that guy.
He got bought out by ConAgra, I remember.
It was like not a good deal for him.
No, it's not at all, dude.
During a mid-year audit in January of 2022, the district's business manager discovered the food service department had already surpassed its annual budget by $300,000.
So far, basically, Steven's just talked about a chicken wing embezzlement scheme that took place in a poor school district.
But yeah, Yeah, it's time for him to stick the right wing landing.
Take this, throw more money at the problem, because 80% of students at this school, right, or the district overall, they qualify as low income.
So when people say charter schools hurt these kids because some kids live in these neighborhoods, they wouldn't be able to drive or ride their bike or take a bus, right now, They are designated to this one school.
A place like this.
This went on for two years.
1.5 million dollars.
Worth of chicken wings.
It's an absurd story, but it makes the same point.
Throw more money at that problem.
Do you think any of it's going to be fixed?
And I know, by the way, people will try and make this an issue of racial division, where some people will say, hey, this person shouldn't do nine years, this person is having the book thrown at them because they're black.
Or, look, some people will look at that and go, you know what?
An area around Chicago, corrupt school, par for the course.
Not a race thing, par for the course for the public servants of places like Illinois.
That's like six table hits.
God, that's annoying.
The problem wasn't the system, the government, public servants, or a specific race.
It was one person with a gambling problem.
So is that what was going on?
Yeah.
The most interesting part of the story for me is that they don't really know where the chicken wings went.
That interests me.
That's the number one thing I'm thinking of.
Likely she sold them, probably in bulk, to fund her gambling.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if you like selling them like friends or whatever.
Or to restaurants in Chicago for less money.
I mean that could be.
Yeah, I mean I think that there's an economy like that in any major city.
My number one thought was where they were all going.
Of course, yeah.
Where are all these chickens going?
I'm curious about missing chicken wings.
When these kids aren't having a Super Bowl party.
That'd be sick.
But also does Steven not think this stuff could happen in a private school?
It's one person.
He's saying that this is like a scheme from the top higher than this lady.
This is embezzling by not just her but the district itself.
It's the deep state of chicken, dude.
I guess, the deep-fried state.
It's a stretch, and it's annoying, and I don't think anyone's arguing that this is racism to charge this person.
Yeah, that's not where I went first, that's for sure.
Not even close!
Yeah, when they said nine years for... I was like, okay.
1.5 million dollars?
That's a fair... Seems like she'll probably serve half of that.
If that.
Yeah.
And then school district, the taxpayers... Do you think she buried the wings and she's gonna like...
That's a movie.
She's like the DB Cooper of chicken.
Oh my god.
I hope they're still good.
This is just like a financial crime, right?
No one got hurt over these chicken wings.
It's like a Coen Brothers movie.
All right.
Blue cheese or ranch?
We're not done, folks.
Depends on the wing.
I think you're right.
I, as an adult, have leaned more towards blue cheese.
No ranch, no blue cheese.
That's only for the celery and carrots that come with it.
Wow.
Okay, that's interesting.
Bold move.
I'll go like one without dipping usually but like if I'm doing like a lemon pepper I feel like it works better with ranch but like a buffalo goes better with blue cheese.
Of course.
And then like something like a honey barbecue or something like that, no dip.
Okay.
No dip.
I want to know the street value of this!
Wings are one of the strongest indicators of inflation.
You know why?
Because you can't change your business model.
If you're McDonald's, if you're selling different sandwiches, oh we can get pork for cheaper now, we're gonna move the menu, let's take some roast beef out of here, let's make the burger patty smaller, let's change our sourcing for bread with wings, you get what you get.
You either have to reduce the number or increase the price and I believe it's well over 30%, closer to 30-40% just since Biden's been in office.
But wings have gone up?
Yeah, wings are a very tough business, which is why this horrible bitch stole them.
Now...
Well, don't say horrible.
You haven't tried her wings yet.
That's true.
I don't know.
I mean, for two years, she was probably slinging the best wings in South Chicago.
I wonder if she tried to get out of it with the costume.
Like, look, look, I'll serve my time.
I done wrong.
That's right.
And I know that.
And I will have to make amends.
But first, would you like to try?
Slipped into a bit of a goofy Adam Sandler voice at the end there.
Conditioner's better.
Remember that?
Billy Madison.
I heard there's a Happy Gilmore sequel they're doing.
There is, Netflix.
Wow, okay.
That's exciting stuff.
I heard there's gonna be a hologram Bob Parker.
That's actually sick.
I love that.
I hope the guy with the nail on his head is still there.
That'd be cool.
Steven, you're racist and wing prices have gone up.
And also, wings are sold by weight, not by count, generally, right?
I feel like you would know that.
I mean, chicken has gone up, but it also has come down.
Like, it skyrocketed during COVID.
It came down quite a bit.
It's interesting, yeah.
Inflation is real, but so is bird flu, which has caused disruptions in poultry supply chains.
Lots of dead chickens.
Also, there's more biosecurity measures that have been implemented to manage these outbreaks, which also cost money, and that cost is obviously not going to be eaten by Tyson.
They're going to pass it down to the customer.
Yeah, I mean... I have a solution.
Oh, okay.
When you order wings, you can request the sick birds.
Can I have the sick wings only?
At a discount.
Give me 30% off.
I'll eat the sick birds.
No questions asked.
Yeah, don't worry about it.
I'll be fine.
It's called the bird flu, not the human flu.
This is the equivalent of like buying a dented can.
Basically the same thing.
To put a button on this criminal wing ring, it was led seemingly, by all accounts, with all available information, by one desperate gambling addict who, during a devastating global pandemic, took advantage of it.
Yeah, used the chaos to hide the problem.
That's it.
Allegedly, that's it, but it's probably the deep sea.
It's just, it's just, it's government corruption.
I'm sorry.
We need to completely, comment if you agree, or hit the rumble button, or like on YouTube.
Completely defund the Federal Department of Education.
Great.
By the way, we'll have a new, uh, new installments of three and three next week.
One of them is the Federal Department of Education.
Ah.
Uh.
Red Wings in three minutes.
That'll be funny.
That sounds like a challenge.
I bet you could get a t-shirt for three and three.
Yeah.
Three and three is back after we called them out a few weeks ago.
We're doing these shows.
You put on eight of those episodes in one week and then never did it again.
And never did it again, yeah.
It's fun I pulled a clip of us saying that.
That's weird, that mess with my head man.
I was like, oh am I talking?
I'm not talking.
My mouth isn't moving.
So I thought it'd be fun, another gift to myself, to dive into one of the more useless government departments.
The one responsible for maintaining a standard of learning while brainwashing children that trans is how everyone should be?
That's right, dude.
Welcome to 3 in 3.
Three key facts in three minutes or less on the topics you care about most.
The Federal Department of Education.
Here we go.
Is that theme song by Anna Kendrick?
Oh, she's playing the cups on the table.
Yeah, the cup song, yeah.
So 3 in 3 is his other podcast?
Yeah, it is, you know.
Kind of explains it a little bit, but this episode specifically is about the Department of Education, whose primary mission is to promote student achievement and preparation for global competitiveness by fostering educational excellence and ensuring equal access to education for all students.
Sounds woke, bro.
Right.
I think it's that last- What?
Amen.
I think it's that last part that bothers Steven most, ensuring equal access to all students.
Some kids should be dumb.
Yeah.
We know which ones.
We know what he wants.
Yeah, it sucks.
Not sure if you've heard any of these, Dennis.
I don't know, you're unfamiliar with the theme.
Yeah, you know, I listened to one of them and it sounded kind of like he was reading Facebook memes about things, you know, like, I never, I never looked for sources, but it definitely sounded like, uh, they're all available public.
Oh, publicly.
Yeah, exactly.
You just ask ChadGPT for them and they'll give them to you.
What I disliked most about it was that he's trying so hard to be like NPR.
This is Steven Crowder 343.
Stiff as hell.
I don't know what's wrong with him.
But yeah, these facts, I guess let's start at number one.
Let's do it.
Key fact number one.
The creation of the Federal Department of Education.
The Federal Department of Education as we know it today was created in 1979 under Jimmy Carter and significantly increased the federal government's role in funding public education.
Prior to the department's founding, the federal government largely played an advisory role, while the funding itself for public education came almost entirely from state and local governments.
Makes sense.
The states.
Okay.
Of course, if you live in a poor or racist state or local community, it's your right to be given a worse education.
Yeah, exactly.
It's fine.
I mean, you know, you just need to get good.
This department didn't come out of nowhere.
Operations began May 4th, 1980, following the split of the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare into the Department of Education and the Department of Health and Human Services.
So it existed before this.
Part of a, like, conglomerate program thing.
Okay.
So by increasing the accountability of federal education programs to the President, Congress, and the public, the department ensures that education policies are effectively implemented and that there is increased public and parental involvement in federal education programs.
Or so they say.
Yeah, allegedly.
It wasn't formed to take over education.
It was designed to supplement and complement the efforts of states, local school systems, and other educational institutions.
Sure.
Because things weren't working well.
You know, despite Brown v. The Board of Education, the decision in 1954 which declared racial segregation in public schools unconstitutional, many schools remained segregated and unequally funded.
Black students often attended underfunded schools with fewer resources compared to white students.
People act like civil rights struggles were hundreds of years ago.
No.
Rosa Parks died in like 05.
Our parents were alive in the wake of this decision.
Yeah, these problems, you don't just solve them and they go away.
The damage echoes.
Of course.
Yeah.
Woke.
Also, the sole reliance on local property taxes for school funding led to significant disparities between wealthy and impoverished districts.
Obviously.
Math doesn't count.
I think it does.
This system perpetuated inequalities as schools in affluent areas afforded better facilities and had better teachers, while those in poorer areas struggled to get basic educations.
So are you saying that like affluent people should help fund the education of those less fortunate?
Is that what you're saying to me?
Yeah.
Sounds like socialism.
Okay, sure.
Before this department, there was inefficiencies and inconsistencies in how educational programs were implemented across states and districts.
It was a fucking mess.
Yeah.
And Stephen, this isn't Little House on the Prairie.
It's 2024.
I wish it was Little House on the Prairie.
Wouldn't that be cool?
I was dipping some pigtails in ink.
Dude, I wish that I was in like a ice bath for a fever.
That's a good idea.
That's gotta get rid of it.
For sure.
Love painting fences.
I love throwing fish heads at my neighbors.
Five cent flower?
Yeah, that's great.
Doing Huck Finn activities.
Getting carried away on a little catamaran.
But what's the cost of all this knowledge?
Key fact number two.
Number two.
The total cost of the Department of Education.
In total, the Federal Department of Education has spent approximately two trillion dollars since its inception, not accounting for inflation.
As a matter of fact, today, the Department of Education's discretionary budget is the third largest of the federal government, surpassed only by the Department of Defense and the Department of Health and Human Services.
Uh, so, you know, what are we paying two trillion dollars for?
Lots of things.
Educational programs that help millions of students across the country, financial aid and grants.
I thought it was going to be chicken wings, if I'm going to be honest here.
Chicken wings!
Yeah, I thought you were selling them back to the district.
I mean, maybe that's what a lot of student loans are going to, right?
Two trillion, he said?
Yeah.
So that's about $6,000 per U.S.
citizen over the last 50 years?
Seems reasonable, right?
I mean, that, you know, what, 100 bucks a year per person in the U.S.?
Well, to put that into perspective, Dennis, $2 trillion since 1980.
The Department of Defense has spent something like $25 trillion in the same period of time What would you rather have, dude?
Guns or brains?
Safe country.
That's the on-the-book spending, not dark money, which is rumored to be significantly more.
There's lots of dark money in education, bro.
You don't even know.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, listen, listen.
Interesting.
Maybe that lady was selling those chicken wings to funnel the money back into education.
Do you think that?
No, that's what I was thinking, you know?
I'd gladly give money to financial aid and grants.
That's not what I said.
She's ripping off the district.
Selling it back to them.
Never mind.
Yeah, that's not good.
That's actually bad.
The opposite of what we're going for here.
Yeah, financial aid is great because smarter citizens drives innovation and, you know, makes us better as a country.
It's okay to also say that the Department of Education has problems with spending, that we need to rein in problems with spending.
Yeah, yeah.
But also, this money goes to special education under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, which is IDEA, which is kind of nice.
Oh, that is great.
Title I funding, which supports schools with high numbers of children from low-income families.
Great.
All stuff that needs to be abolished, obviously.
Yeah, duh.
I just hate this.
I hate all of this.
Yeah, it sucks.
This is just defund the police, but it's defund the poor kids.
It seems like that.
That's all this is.
Underprivileged people.
Defund the impoverished.
This is like a huge point of like the Project 2025.
It is in there, yeah.
They want to abolish it.
They want to get rid of it.
There's other ones in there too, but yeah, specifically abolish the Board of Education.
Just get them out of here.
We don't need that anymore.
Why are we putting money towards schools?
The future of children is stupid.
Well, it literally is.
It literally is.
If they do defund this.
And they babystepped it by getting Betsy DeVos, like a charter school person, to be the... I also just want to quickly comment about how much I hate when Steven does these.
He introduces chapters.
It's not even like he packs these three minutes in with data with lots of info.
He's like, Chapter 3.
The Spend.
They're also inconsistent with what exactly the format of the show is.
Of course.
He'll say it's three key facts and then do like five facts and the fact three.
Yeah.
Stacks facts.
The one I listened to, I think he only said one fact on the one I listened to.
Yeah.
It's weird.
He's only got like a different guy writing it for him every week.
We know it's Bogan or whatever.
Well until he's gone and then it's a new guy who has to write it and they have to try to hone in on this thing that he's done three times and it's all been different every time.
Yeah.
This money, has it been worth it?
In spite of the trillions of dollars in federal spending, the results of students in standardized testing have remained almost entirely unchanged since 1979, when the Department of Education was founded.
Even more troubling, newer data emerging today shows a negative trend, with standardized math scores at their lowest since 1990, and reading scores at their lowest since 2004.
This has been three and three.
And he's fairly full of shit.
High school graduation's up, college enrollment has increased, the achievement gap between racial and ethnic groups has narrowed.
That's the biggest problem.
Huge one.
More students have access to technology now than ever.
STEM has better prepared students for careers in science technology, engineering and math.
And as you mentioned earlier, yeah, we've made mistakes along the way.
And there's serious room for improvement.
But we're miles farther along than we would have been without a Department of Education.
Of course.
Like, I understand that you can say, hey, we need to rein in spending.
And I mean, remember No Child Left Behind?
But there was problems around that.
There are problems.
Like Common Core, there's problems with Common Core, right?
But the thing is that it's not just that the Department of Education has changed in the last 20 years.
You know, he said since 2004 or something.
Think about what's changed since 2004, right?
There's been so many changes.
Parenting has changed a ton.
Pandemic.
I mean, screen use among children has been a huge thing.
We're fighting new battles, too.
And you can't expect it to always be like, hey, we're always improving, we're always improving.
It's not a business.
We have the Department of Education so we can recognize the problems that Steven's describing and implement a fix for them.
If we send it back to the states, there are very poor states, and those states will just be dumber and dumber and dumber, and the states that have more money will be smarter and smarter and smarter because they can afford an education.
Wait, and those are usually the what cities?
I think it's... Don't tell him.
Don't tell him?
Don't tell him.
The blue ones?
I think it's the... Sarah Huckabee Sanders runs?
Yeah, the other side of that, huh?
There are things... I think what confused me most of all of this is what's the role of the federal government if not to... What's to help the people?
I know, but what's, like, if everything is states' rights, then why are we even a United States?
Why aren't we just individual states?
Like, I don't understand what they think the role of the federal government is.
Limited.
Other than to identify the gaps and problems that a collection of states presents.
I found an interview with him from about ten years ago at a, with Stephen Crowder.
Did we go upstairs?
No, Jesus Christ.
And he was at a libertarian convention getting ambushed by some libertarian youtuber and he felt really slighted by this.
I felt very good about it.
I think he said that his ideal vision of US government would be as a referee.
Say, when a rule has been broken, basically.
But don't they want no rules from the government?
Well, they want the Constitution.
Okay.
The Bill of Rights and that's it.
So it's like mini-globalism is what he wants, kind of.
For the people, and by the people, initially.
But once the people have been, that's it.
Has Steven talked about the age of workers in these states at all?
Have we heard anything like that from him?
I'm sure he wants the kids to work.
Maybe there's a 3 in 3 coming up about child labor.
I can't wait for that one.
I'm curious, just because we're giving it back to the states, the states make these decisions, and then a bunch of them just decided to be like, fuck school, let's put you to work inside of a meat factory.
You have small hands, you can get the little giblets out of the...
That whole thing that we're experiencing in some of these More, you know Republican like red states, I guess but I don't know be interested to hear what he has to say about it Is this good does like I mean, he doesn't want education to be happening.
He thinks education is trash So should these kids just be like I don't know if y'all remember the teenager that got sucked into like the beef processing uh grinder this like 15 year old kid that was like wearing no protective gear but doing the job working there all night he was a migrant from Guatemala I believe but yeah he fell into like a grinder situation and that was
The end of him, but that's sort of like, in lieu of education, we're not giving these people education if they're coming here.
We're giving them the meat grinder.
That seems like a... I think it's crazy.
Just puts the opinion, I guess.
You're looking at a couple things to consider there, considering it was a migrant.
Yeah.
I don't think he's going to have any empathy for that.
Right.
He's going to say that's a system sorting itself out.
But employed in like a red state, and that being like a common practice.
Totally, yeah.
I think I do recall something like this that you were talking about, but I think what's so interesting about this particular conversation is that none of us have kids, and we feel like we should be spending our federal tax dollars on educating other people's kids.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
Huh.
You know?
The guy with kids is like, no, that's dumb.
Childless dog dudes over here.
Yeah, that's right, dude.
Interesting.
Hmm.
3in3's awful in content and execution.
Yeah, it's really bad.
I mean should we do more of these?
I don't know.
I think we should remix the theme song from that into our theme song.
It could be fire yeah.
Jumping back into the main show, well actually should we do more of these?
I don't know.
Maybe people should let us know on Twitter at Dan Crowder.
Maybe we can supercut it or something.
I think we should.
Honestly they're nice because we can just like burn through them and be like this is a dumb thing.
It's bad?
We can bank five over the next couple of months and we'll just do a pick three but and then we'll make a game out of it like we'll do the You have to pick three.
You have to agree with three things out of the fifteen things.
Jumping back to the main show.
Let's move on to Iran!
Do we have to?
What would you like to do today, Gerald?
What would you like this show to be?
I don't want Harris to be supported by Ron.
Well, I don't want her to be supported, but what do you want to talk about?
I want to talk about this.
I just hate being asked to.
You want to talk about Notre Dame fighting Irish?
Is that what you want to do?
Actually, if you want, they came out at number seven in the most recent points.
Did they really?
You're going to be fine.
Oh, my neck is hurting more now.
Yeah, I know.
So is my soul.
Okay.
I'm never going to go to bat for Gerald, but he's being mean.
Of course he is.
Bullying someone publicly on a show?
That's weird.
Yeah.
And yeah, as I said before, we're not talking Iran.
And honestly, I pulled a bunch of these clips about Fox and we might not go through all of them either.
Another question and another stepped on bit.
What are run throughs for anyway?
Let me ask you this.
Does anyone out there still believe that Fox News is conservative?
Is right-leaning?
Take a minute.
You can hit pause here.
comment below We have a poll and mug club to so they could answer but Because they're not Doug They are not even remotely.
I don't know how people are still buying this.
Their polls are the worst in the business.
The errors always lean left and the margin of error is one of the widest.
You can go and research this yourself.
But they just posted this.
And again, the question as to why is what matters.
I'll give you some more examples that you may have forgotten as it relates to Fox News.
This is the headline.
Homicides are plunging in Biden's last year compared to Trump's.
Right.
He just can't handle that his propaganda network said something that was like not pro-Trump.
Yeah, I don't understand that they were, that's true.
Uh-huh.
Homicides are down.
And we'll get into that in a second, but Jared, I want to say you spoke at the exact same time that Tim jumped in because of how awkward and long that pause was that Steven allowed.
You, you didn't hear Steve go, Over Tim and then said that he ruined the bit by talking.
Oh, that's hilarious.
I mean, I guess instinctually you're in line with Tim.
Yeah, you should go on the Steven Show.
I thought it was over.
I thought I thought I was getting one in.
No, no.
I don't know.
This new data from the major cities Chiefs Association shows, like you said, Dennis, that homicide trends in 2024, they are down.
Yeah, about 19% or something.
But this Fox News article is written by a guy named Greg Norman, based on a report from Axios titled, New Data Show Homicides Down in Biden's Last Year vs. Trump's.
We'll get into the details of the article, but first... I'm gonna front load this for you really quickly.
Thanks.
It's not true, and they actually are using crime statistics from a year that includes New York City to a year that doesn't.
That's a big city.
Let me repeat myself.
And there are other major cities.
Yes.
But one number that you see includes New York City?
Crime is, well, a lot lower when you don't include New York City.
New York City!
By the way, those commercials were awful, remember?
That's about as hack as a New York City joke could get, right?
Paste picante sauce?
I know that New York feels like it's really high homicide rates.
Yeah.
Because it's a huge city with lots of homicide.
Yeah.
Because there's a lot of people there.
But the rate is lower than a lot of other places in the country.
If you talk like that, they can't have an entire segment called Empire State of Crime.
Oh, shit, yeah.
Yeah, so don't, don't, just don't.
New York City was left out because they now report their own crime statistics on their own platform for their state, which feels kind of like a states' rights thing.
Yeah, dude.
It's kind of interesting.
NYC.crime, baby.
Yeah, it's more of that than relying on the FBI's reporting system, which changed recently due to Biden.
You all know that starting in 2021, it's really tough to gauge crime these days because Biden and Harris, they change reporting guidelines completely.
So only one-third to a quarter of law enforcement agencies report crime to the FBI at all.
Only four in ten violent crimes are currently being reported.
Maybe three in ten property crimes are being reported.
Some crimes are no longer being prosecuted at all, like retail theft.
That's how Pete Buttigieg goes out there to see crime is lower.
Go to your local metropolitan area and tell me that you feel safer.
No one does, no one's buying it.
How are you feeling about crime after I tell you crime is worse?
Yikes!
Fucking dumbass talking to someone in the middle of Nebraska talking about like New York City.
Hey!
Anecdotal crime stats are the least reliable.
Don't crime make you scared too?
Hey, when crime happened around, I was shaking in my boots.
So stupid.
Starting in 2021, the FBI required law enforcement agencies to use the National Incident-Based Reporting System, NIBIRU.
Nibbers?
Did you guys hear the crime?
Instead of their older thing, which was called Summary Reporting System, SRS.
So NIBRS, Nibiris, involves more detailed data on crime incidents, including the types of offenses, property involved, and demographic information about victims and offenders.
Oh my god.
I think it's really interesting because if it was a different discussion, like a debate about rape culture, I feel like Steve would be pro this, right?
Because context matters.
Context matters.
Well, and the thing is, is like, good data is great, bad data is garbage, right?
Do you want people to not take steps towards improving data because the data has been bad historically?
There shouldn't be a problem with requiring more detailed information.
No, and I can understand how people would say that, oh, the crime might look lower because people aren't reporting it as much or in the same fashion or whatever.
But regardless, we have to put in place a system that works on a national level, because one of the biggest problems with so many crimes that happen, like serial killers and stuff, is that these departments don't communicate.
Yeah, there was no database in the 1980s, and that's why people could cross state lines and continue brutal violence.
You should get one in each state, I think.
I think that sounds reasonable, right?
As long as you get away with it.
If you cross the border after one, you're in the clear.
Oh, they got to Idaho, they're free!
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
The shift, though, to this new database collection system, I guess it affected the reliability and comparability of crime stats between 2021 and 2022, but then things kind of settled back down.
Sure.
The incomplete data from 2021 makes it kind of hard to You know, accurately assess year-over-year crime in that period, but I guess it's claim time.
Here's the claim.
Homicides dropped 13% in 66 cities.
Mm-hmm.
Okay?
Go read the report, please.
Don't take my word for it.
The truth...
The number is a lie.
It's a lie.
There's no if.
It's a lie.
If you include New York City, well, there's been a 7.5% drop in homicides in that very limited window of time that they have chosen.
Compared to pre-COVID numbers, which are the numbers that people are using for reference, there's been a 9.5% increase in homicides.
Yeah, I don't know where he's getting his numbers.
Didn't you check?
I did.
The thing is, he's conflating different periods of times and different statistics, saying that because New York wasn't included in this, but it was included in this, that it's different.
His sources are selective and they lack context.
He's wrong.
You need to say it like he does.
Uh it's it's a lie.
It's a lie.
This narrow window he's talking about is the first six months of 2020 versus 2024.
Easily comparable because we are in the first six months of this year.
Yeah well we're yeah I mean we just we just wrapped up the seventh and so we have you know.
Clear data.
Time for data to roll in yeah.
Yeah.
So during the first six months of 2020, New York experienced a significant increase in murders.
There was 468 homicides reported in the city for the entire year, with a notable rise during the early months due to various factors like COVID-19 and its societal impacts.
In contrast, for the first six months of 2024, the number of murders in New York City has shown a... what is this?
decrease.
Huh.
Significantly.
There was a reduction in murders by 21.1% in June of 2024 when compared to June of 2023.
That's only like 100 murders, man.
Yeah, with 30 incidents reported in June.
Wow.
Additionally, from January to July of 2024, there have only been, I don't want to say only because it's people's lives, but 221 murders, which is a 10.2% reduction compared to the same period in 2023.
Yeah, but if you include all the extra murders that are in your heart.
Yeah, the murders you think are happening.
Yeah, exactly.
If you ask people about murders, it's up.
And also, I mean, big stuff, like Boston has experienced an 80% drop in homicides compared to the same period, while Philadelphia saw a 70% decrease.
Those are wild stats.
Huge.
Yeah, it's huge.
What's going on?
What do we think is going on there?
People are just, they're not as mad right now?
I think that people just aren't talking about murder as much.
You think that's it?
It's out.
Murder is down because there's so much murder on Netflix, these true crime docs, these true crime podcasts.
All these people are getting their fix and they're just saying, go to hell with it.
That sounds like a lot of damn work.
But if that runs dry, big Netflix is going to be out there trying to fund more murders.
Wrangle a new Jeffrey Dahmer.
Yeah.
Hey buddy, you want to eat some guys?
I sat with all this information for three hours today, trying to figure out the right way to present it.
But as a present to myself, I decided that I'm going to cut a couple clips because all of these crime statistics, the way that they could be interpreted, I mean, it all lacks context.
It can all be used to paint a picture.
Exactly.
And I realized that that, I mean, I realized I wasted three hours because it doesn't matter what I say.
Yeah.
What this shows to me more is it shows that Stephen doesn't care about data as much as he cares about the respect from the people who are on his side.
Yeah, this is just the implosion of the right.
He didn't talk about how good things are in Philadelphia or Boston, so in my opinion, he doesn't care about people in Philadelphia or Boston.
I mean, he asked somebody in Plano what they thought about Boston, and they said, I would never live in Boston.
That's what they said.
He did mention the increase in crime in places like Seattle, Portland, and I think Las Vegas, which it's true.
Yeah, but isn't it mostly like proportionate though with like population increases?
No, it's pretty significant.
It's like 400% in Portland.
It's like, it's pretty fucked.
All right.
But I mean, like in Austin, for instance, that's like our crime is up, but it's like, it's lower than the national average for a city our size.
It's very confusing for those, for the people who are most critical about stuff like this to explain that to them because it's too many fucking numbers for them to wrap their head around.
You know what's a good thing is like in places like Seattle, Vegas, and Oregon, and Portland, where there have been these surges in homicides, a surge only equates to like 10 extra people.
Which, I'm not saying that's to minimize it, but when we're talking about percentages, we live in a relatively safe country.
Those are the types of statistics that can shift so dramatically.
We do, and I think that the things to look at is the stuff that we can prevent, right?
Like things like mass shootings, obviously those are a huge deal.
This is such a challenging thing to talk about and a challenging thing to experience as just a general person because we only experience the crime that we experience, right?
And so it's so hard to be like, if I saw a thing that said, hey, the weather's great in New York, I would trust it, I guess, but I don't know what that experience is like.
You know what I mean?
And for a lot of people, you know, many people have experienced crime in some fashion.
And so when you've experienced crime, it's going to feel scarier than if you haven't experienced it.
And so I think that just the fear of crime leads people to really latch onto these crime is up, crime is up, crime is up stories.
Well, and the important thing is, too, is all these statistics say that even though there was a pandemic nationwide boost in homicide.
I'm not surprised because people were Like there's probably a lot of like domestic violence increased.
Yeah, but we're on the way down.
Yeah, which is the only thing that matters to me.
Yeah, but I mean Biden's driving it up though.
Great.
Yeah, and then Stephen implies that it's a grand gaslighting conspiracy by the mainstream media to keep people going to major cities.
Exactly right, dude.
Makes a lot of sense.
Look, if you found out, instead of people telling you, hey, you're more likely to be struck by lightning than to be attacked by a shark, that's what they always say, which is, I hate that, it's like, well yeah, because I spend all of my life on land and very little in the ocean, I'm sure the chances go up dramatically.
If they said, actually, I don't know if you know this, you're far more likely to die in the beach from a shark than on your drive there in your car, you'd be like, well holy shit, then I'm not going to drive my car to the beach!
So if someone were to say, you're actually 417% more likely to be the victim of assault here in Minneapolis, thanks to Tim Walz and his policy, than you were pre-COVID, you'd go, well, I guess I'm not going to Minneapolis-St.
Paul.
I'm gonna get knockout gamed and frickin' going to the Vikings game?
I don't think so!
Honestly, stay home.
That's fine.
I'm gonna go to the friggin' Lizzo Show to call her out on I'm gonna body shame her and someone's gonna hit me in the back of the head!
Have her do five?
I don't think so!
I love this because Steven is accidentally explaining why gun violence is up.
Yeah, he kinda is, isn't he?
I'm at Paisley Park, looking at Prince's cool blouse, and some of the workers are just gonna run behind me and just hit me on the back of the head with a trailer hitch.
I don't think so!
Tim Walz!
Thanks a lot, Tim.
It's definitely Tim.
Tim's behind it all, dude.
Stephen, when he gets it wrong, at least he corrects himself, though, right?
Every time.
Every single time.
And this I cut down.
Let's see, what do we have here?
By the way, this is why the media, legacy media, is the enemy of the people.
Look, people get things wrong, people make mistakes.
We make mistakes.
You just had me be admonished today.
I just said assault, because I was going to insult the researcher.
You assaulted me.
You just admonished me.
We make mistakes.
We make our references publicly available.
And a big part of that is we crowdsource corrections.
You're able to fact check us and we'll come back the next day and say, hey, you know what?
You're right.
We got this wrong.
Or maybe there was a number that we didn't include, which contextually would have been important.
A lot of context he's missing already.
Has Steven ever said, hey, somebody in the comments section said we were wrong?
No!
And I didn't go back to the episode before, so I don't know his admonishment, what the context of that was.
No, he doesn't do this.
He's not willing, and first off, he isn't even personally willing to take responsibility for getting something wrong.
He immediately blamed it on the researcher.
Yeah.
Fucking baby.
With Fox though, Fox News, this isn't the first time that they've fucked up in a woke way.
And by the way, with Fox, this is not the first time.
That Fox has actually been, I don't want to use the term woke, bordering on communist.
Is that more prudent?
So let me give you three examples of Fox News.
And I just wish that the older generation, 76 median age is the viewership for Fox News.
I just wish that they knew.
Um, so if you have parents who watch Fox News, let them know that Fox can often be leftist propaganda, you know, to be careful and just not swallow it wholesale, because sometimes they think they're getting the alternative view on Fox, and that's more dangerous.
You've not heard me spoken out against Fox that much, obviously, full disclosure, I worked there for years.
Um, but at this point, the problem is people are accepting them as an alternative to CNN, MSNBC, and they believe that they're getting the truth.
You're not.
I would actually wager more often than not you are being misled.
And not being misled as far as cheerleading rah-rah Republican, I mean you're being presented with information that is still very favorable to the left.
Hey, just to say before we move on, when you're done with your Fox News, I need to make sure that everybody's grabbing their scissors and cutting it up before they're throwing it away.
Because there's a lot of conservatives that are getting their heads stuck in it.
And, you know, this is becoming a problem.
I saw a video of that on TikTok.
I saw Fox's new straw stuck on the turtle's nose.
Yeah, the paper straws, they're still dangerous.
They're still trying to eat those things.
I don't know what's going on there, but we need to put a little bit more attention to this issue.
Maybe he's purposefully limiting options.
Well, if we tell people Fox is bad and eventually we tell them OAN is bad and right-side broadcasting, they'll end up at my door.
Yes, of course.
Stevens acting like Fox News is not the number one watched cable station in the entire country.
And that they're not conservative is a bizarre take and we will go through his list of grievances here in a second and his examples of why they are so communist.
Yeah, well, I mean, just before this we watched a video on Fox News of Neil Cavuto calling some Louisiana senator, calling him out for calling Kamala a ding-dong.
Yeah, that was weird.
He was basically just like, really man?
Like, should you focus on policy?
And he's like, no, I'm gonna call her a ding-dong!
I'm gonna call her a ding-dong!
That's smart.
That's smooth.
Yeah.
It sounds pretty woke though, I mean.
Yeah, I don't know exactly what he's doing.
I really don't.
I love seeing the right implode.
Yeah, it's fun to see some infighting every once in a while.
It's happening so aggressively right now.
Yeah.
Well, you might see why here in a second because of these egregious things.
Here's example number one.
You may not remember this.
You know, they released a podcast series specifically highlighting diverse leftist figures.
We are celebrating LGBTQ+, by highlighting the community's culture and history.
And on this Thursday morning, we learn about... Yeah, he was like the ambassador for the LGBT community.
I had no idea Billy Bean was gay.
Or maybe you should be watching Fox News.
Yeah, who's Billy Bean?
Mr. Bean.
Is this like the Billy Beer?
That's not... It's like Bitter Beer Face.
Remember those commercials?
I do.
I don't know anything about this podcast series, but I do know that acknowledging that LGBTQ plus people exist is not... He just died.
Who?
Billy Bean.
He died at 60.
He led the baseball on diversity after coming dot dot dot out as gay.
Okay.
According to the Times.
Being upset about this shows that- Oh, he literally died this month.
Yeah, he died two weeks ago.
Huh.
Being upset about this is literally calling out the fact that you're being hypocritical when you say that you're not anti-gay people, you're anti-woke agendas.
Sure.
Because that's all this is.
It sounds like they're like, hey we're honoring a, you know, a gay person who made it an impact in life.
It seems like the show might have been called America Together?
LGBTQ plus Pride Month with Billy Bean.
What is wrong with... I mean... Because.
It's simple.
Listen.
Alright?
Gay guy?
Yeah.
Spell it out for him.
Honor?
Those don't match.
Okay.
Right?
G-A-Y.
Three letters, three minutes.
Let's get into it.
G stands for gay.
Next grievance, huh?
Here's example number two of Fox News going completely woke.
I don't know why they did this and the only answer I can come to is that it's social engineering where someone at Fox has decided this is important.
They spotlighted California transgender teen.
And the reason they did it was because this person was hoping to be an inspiration to others, and Fox News said, yeah!
Pride Month continues as we highlight the story of Ryland Whittington, whose journey of transitioning at age 5 has been seen by 7 million people in a family YouTube video.
Before Ryland could even speak, he managed to tell his parents that he is a boy.
I could just see it.
It wasn't him trying to be a brat.
It was like painful.
It was truly painful for him to have to wear feminine clothing and for us constantly telling him that you're a girl.
I remember seeing that.
So disgusting.
That's as far to the left as you can possibly get.
Saying the child is transgender.
And by the way, those are awful, awful parents.
For example, I took my little ones the other day to a quick trip.
In the morning, you know, because they have the donut display.
And, of course, both of them, my son, just like my daughter, went for the pink donut with the sprinkles.
Why?
Because the other ones are plain donuts.
It looks like a Simpsons donut.
It looks like a cartoon.
It looks flavored.
Now, if I were an abusive leftist parent, I would go, he picked the pink.
Oh, I think I know what's happening here.
No, he wanted the only donut with sprinkles, dummy.
In a dress.
Two things.
For one, hey kids, do you want to go to the Quick Trip and look at the donut display?
What was that?
This is all just a bunch of frozen donuts from the 7-Eleven distribution center.
Yeah, come on man.
My second point is that Steven here The fact that his son picked the pink donut fucked him up a bit.
It did.
He thought about it.
He's bringing this up to try and get ahead of it because he's afraid of someone calling him out or he thinks it's a different thing.
Gerald's gonna throw him into a corner.
You got a gay son with a pink donut!
He's gonna try to do that conversion shit on his son?
That's sad.
I'm really sorry that he has to live with that worry in his life that oh God forbid his son likes the color pink and could be gay?
That's rough, man.
Yeah, that's... That's sad.
Yeah, well Media Matters for America wrote an article about this.
Fox News ran a positive segment with a trans teenager.
Other members of the right-wing media lost their minds, is the title of it.
People are afraid of what they do not understand, said the Fox reporter.
Overall, yeah, right-wing media lost their fucking mind and criticized Fox News for airing the segment.
Ben Shapiro was outraged, of course, and criticized them for promoting views that they view as a harmful narrative, infighting stuff again.
Well, I think, just broadly speaking, I think that Steven doesn't understand how much, if you create rigid categories, people will not feel like they fit within those rigid categories.
Yeah.
It's that simple.
And what happens when people feel like they are outcast?
They get in line.
No, of course not.
They line up, they turn on OAN, they turn on Newsmax, and they say, please guide me.
No, it just causes problems.
Yeah, and it also causes people to feel like shit.
Yeah, which I think the goal should be that less people in America feel like shit.
No, I don't think so.
I mean, less people on the right should feel like shit.
Sure.
More people on the left should feel like shit.
Damn it, I gotta write all this down.
Yeah, that is good.
I'll give you a book of rules called the Bible.
Now I guess professional comedian sets up another grievance here.
Ooh, nice.
And Fox is so left.
How left are they?
I would argue violates journalistic ethics to a degree that is so upsetting that it actually has served as the inspiration for what we're doing this election.
Uh-oh.
And I've talked about this.
First Adam and I. Here's example number three.
In 2020, Fox didn't just go along with the left.
Fox was the only place to do this.
To do what?
Come on.
2020.
2020.
They were the first two.
Oh, Arizona.
Yes.
They called Arizona for Biden with only 73% of the vote in.
This is a big development.
Yeah.
The Fox News Decision Desk is calling Arizona for Joe Biden.
They were wrong, right?
That is a big get for the Biden campaign.
And by the way, the other networks didn't call it until nine days after the election.
Now keep in mind, Biden only won Arizona by 10,457 votes.
At least he says that they won.
Yeah.
Do you know the reason why they did that?
Uh, no.
To get viewers.
Of course.
That's it, Steven.
Just like the bullshit Steven does to get viewers.
Sure.
And they were right.
And I imagine he's going to do this a lot on election night this time.
I mean, they were allegedly right.
Earlier in this episode he said he didn't appreciate when people use the term gaslighting because they oftentimes use it wrong and he's taken to saying it all the time.
That's why he feels that way because he knows how to use it right.
Okay well... I'm out here on the chain gang and we are gaslighting guys.
You have played a direct role in gaslighting Americans and browbeating Americans who think that they deserve better as it relates to election integrity.
And because I've lost sleep over it, that's why November 5th, 2024, we are doing the live election coverage, the election live stream of the century, the rumble on rumble.
Don't expect us to be here on YouTube.
We will have All of the data that these news outlets have, and more, on election night.
So we will be able to call states, we'll be able to dispute states.
If something like Arizona happens, we'll be able to say, no, no, no, no, we actually don't think that that should be called.
Furthermore, we'll provide the map for you, the electoral integrity map, where you can actually go see the states that are called, and see why some states are in dispute.
For example, a pipe bursting, maybe, in the middle of Atlanta, Georgia, where two days later they said, ah, sorry, there was no pipe.
Or in Arizona, if voting precincts are not open, you can click on that map, box will open up, and not only can you read the story, but we will have boots on the ground live to go investigate it so you can actually kind of minority report this and go to different states, particularly your state, to get that information.
We will have boots on the ground, volunteer army.
Volunteer armies.
Has he ever seen Minority?
I don't think he has.
We can predict the crime and go and get it before it happens.
Enhance.
Enhance.
You know, this is the classic who watches the Watchmen, but he is the election police.
Who is the election police that he has to report to?
I also love what you were saying, Jared.
Who the fuck is he going to call?
Get the governor on the phone of Arizona.
So last week he was talking about the wagons.
Someone call Alice Cooper, I've got a big one for him.
We need to get the boys of rock together.
Kid Rock, Alice Cooper, and Nuge!
They're gonna call the big unit.
Randy the Big Unit Johnson.
Who else is from Arizona?
Like, hey you gotta get down there quick Randy!
They're gonna call that guy who went, he's stealing it!
We gotta get the sequel, yeah.
No, I mean, so last week he was talking about the wagons, the red wagons that brought in extra votes.
That was debunked as a news crew's gear in Pelican cases.
I don't know about that.
They were clearly labeled as news equipment.
Yeah, you can label anything as anything.
Now he's talking about the pipe bursting at State Farm Arena in Atlanta during the 2020 election, which delayed the counting of ballots, and they were absentee ballots, of course.
It's called Election Day, okay?
Okay.
Not Election Week.
Well, the incident did happen, Fulton County, Georgia, and it caused a four-hour delay in processing ballots, but no ballots were damaged as a result of the pipe burst, and the repairs were done in two hours.
What pipe?
The pipe that burst.
Show me the pipe.
Listen.
I didn't see the pipe, okay?
Someone call Mike Lindell!
See if he can get a visual on the pipe!
Get his mustache back!
We gotta know, is Mike part of the army?
The volunteer army?
He's a general, dude.
If they're not working with Mike Lindell, that's a big misstep.
That's a big misstep.
I'm anticipating, like I said earlier in earlier episodes, this is going to be a fucking nightmare.
And Dennis is abandoning the country.
I'll be here that night.
Yeah.
I'll be here that night.
But here's the thing.
This is just breeding misinformation.
Yep.
That's it.
All that he's doing here is he's saying, hey, listen, if you see something that has a question around it, think the worst thing and then broadcast it loudly.
I think we have more details about what they're anticipating.
It's a multi-million dollar undertaking.
We appreciate your support.
We will be the only place that will be able to, on sure footing, dispute this kind of bullshit.
There's no other word.
Going forward and Fox News They're one of the worst offenders.
So, and that is our last clip tonight.
The whole point of this episode is to discredit Fox so he can get viewers of his election night coverage.
And he truly wants to say that his show, his show is the only place that can actually make these calls and actually make a sure-footed, quote, a sure-footed impact stopping election night interference?
Yeah, that's the plan.
He's a fucking idiot.
Honestly, he's kind of a genius though.
I love the confidence.
To make an entire episode around the concept of discrediting someone so that you get their viewers on election night?
I mean, that's our whole show.
I guess.
I mean, we are gonna be streaming live!
The Shrug Club Army.
Watch Steven Crowder.
So theirs is called the Rumble on Rumble.
What is ours going to be called?
The Tally on Twitch?
The Tally on Twitch?
Oh, I like that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Let us know what you think at Van Crowder on Twitter.
Yeah.
Did you ever post that cow picture?
I did.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah, Brian Callan's looking really cool on our Twitter.
That's it.
Three days after Fox posted that article about crime being down under Biden, they published a news story called Biden-Harris Admin Says Crime Is Down But Independent Data Shows Violent Crime Is Up In 66 Cities.
Okay, which ones?
I don't know, I'm just saying it's funny that... It sounds like, I mean, there's a left story in there somewhere.
Oh, I don't think so.
The Vinyl Crime is actually up nearly 25% independent data analysis shows.
Yeah, but it's woke because they're gonna say it's only in right-leaning cities.
Really glad they wasted all this time, but I'm so happy that I spent it with y'all.
Ditto.
I'm happy that I could spend the last day of this year of your birth Thank you.
Doing this.
Wow.
What did we learn, though?
Wings can get you in all kinds of shenanigans, and they can get you out of all kinds of pickles.
True.
Related to food and pickles.
I learned that Steven does not have very good insurance coverage.
I guess not.
For his employees.
Oh, totally.
We learned that Steven's not a very good friend.
Yeah, remember part of that Dirty Laundry style contract that he aired out from the Daily Wire and he was mad that they didn't give him days off?
And one of his examples was like, what if I get hurt?
I get fined $20,000 every day I'm not working.
And then he makes Josh work for two days with a potential concussion?
Steve, my head don't feel so good, buddy.
I'm dizzy on air.
Yeah.
Come on.
Yeah, I don't know if we learned much.
We learned that, you know, COVID may feel over, but the wake of all that stuff, I mean, look at all the things it's affected.
Dude, we're just surfing on the wake of life, bro.
It's affected absolutely everything, honestly.
Wings.
Wings are up.
Violent crime.
Dude, my wing intake is up.
Through the roof.
I love it, dude.
And that's thanks to all the cash we're getting from Shrug.Club.
Shrug.Club, dude.
No, you guys are sweet.
Really appreciate everyone who supported us over there.
You can go watch our livestream VODs.
Pretty soon here, I think maybe this week, we should record part two of Steven Crowder's live show.
Oh, yeah, that's a good idea.
That Shrug Club leak that we got from his comedy set in Spokane, Washington.
Don't forget to check us out also on wokeyoutube.com.
Thanks to the folks who have joined us over at wokeyoutube.com.
It's very nice to see you guys participating in Woke YouTube.
Find us on X at thancrowder, louderthancrowder.com, louderwithcrowder.net, and until next time, when I'll be older, I'm Byron.
Happy birthday Byron, I'm Jared.
I'm done.
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