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Aug. 5, 2024 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 37: THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY BEST FRIEND (JULY 15TH, 2024)

This week we approach the jarring and jam-packed July we’ve been avoiding, with Steven and the Gang (mostly Steven)’s thoughts on the attempted assassination of Donald J. Trump. You’re gonna want to kiss your kids harder after this one. Join the Shrug Club at http://patreon.com/shrugclub Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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	The man can't hinge at the hip.
	Apart from all the fear and comfort, but also with just the rents,
	when I'm not having affairs, it's sad, because I spent these 20 months
	at my Exp dried fruit store.
	Because it's just, it's just hanging,
	you know, Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast Louder With Crowder.
	My name's Byron, and I'm joined tonight by some very normal guys.
	Yeah, not weird, Jared.
	I'm not weird.
	Down in Texas.
	Dennis is here too.
	Yep, I'm here.
	That's the thing about you, Jared, is you're actually one of the guys who's against that keep Austin weird thing.
	Yeah, not weird at all.
	Please stop.
	Take it to San Antonio.
	You know, remember the Alamo?
	More like, remember being weird and not doing it here.
	Thank you.
	I really, really, really love how well Weird is landing.
	It's been really fun.
	It's great.
	It's like when the bully, you don't get a reaction.
	Yeah.
	They're like bored.
	They're like irritated.
	They're not, you're not bothering, or they're not bothered.
	You got this?
	It's irritating for them that you're not bothered by them.
	Like, that's what's happening, I think.
	Yeah, we're just saying it's okay.
	All right, whatever, weirdo.
	Bye.
	And it's unavoidable, I suppose.
	Lots of seriousness happened rapidly in July.
	A little bit.
	Biden answered all the questions right and knew all the facts.
	Joe, you did such a great job.
	You answered every question.
	You knew all the facts.
	A weird hillbilly couch fucker got announced as Trump's running mate.
	Oh yeah, do you have any racist drinks here?
	She sure did on stage.
	You knew all the facts, Joe.
	A weird hillbilly couch fucker got announced as Trump's running mate.
	Oh yeah, do you have any racist drinks here?
	We're not drinking that here anymore.
	No Diamound Dew?
	We booted it off to the two racists?
	Joe got COVID, then died, phone memoed out of the race, was replaced by an AI voice to
	endorse Vice President Kamala Harris at a rally, only to be replaced by a much taller
	Joe Biden body double.
	Did he get taller?
	That's what they're saying.
	He started wearing lifts.
	Or he just dropped out because he's old either way.
	No, he's dead.
	You said it.
	He's dead as a doornail, dude.
	Yeah, you literally said it earlier.
	The official statement from Louder Than Crowder is that Joe Biden is dead.
	You know, if they can have fun, why can't we, honestly?
	Either way, it's... I'm not having any fun.
	It's terrible news.
	It's Jover.
	It's Jover, dude.
	In the middle of all of this, former President John... John... John O'Trump.
	Former President Donald J. Trump was barely shot in the ear during a rally in Pennsylvania.
	And that's what we'll be talking about all Night.
	Great.
	Are we going to talk about that for like two minutes is all because that's all anyone seems to care about it at this point.
	That's the interesting thing is it's been about two weeks.
	It's been two weeks and when it first happened I was like he's going to have a huge boon Yeah, well I mean traditionally and Stephen will talk about it.
	I mean the photo of him with his fist up and the blood, that's like iconic.
	Little rat teeth.
	And then people are just like, no he's an idiot now.
	It's like the bullet not only caused a small amount of blood on his face, but it also shattered his campaigns.
	Strategy.
	Maybe not even just a strategy, but his, like, will to do it.
	They shot a hole in the boat, dude.
	Yeah, well.
	He's like, God damn, this sucks.
	I'm really excited to hear what Stephen has to say about it.
	I do want to say, though, yeah, they totally shot themselves in the foot.
	I don't know if there's room in the clip.
	Great.
	I think we got more deeply into this during the live stream during the debate.
	No, during Joe's formal stepping down.
	Yeah, unfortunately, huge live stream we did.
	Available now for Shrug Clubbers.
	Actually, anyone who goes to patreon.com slash shrug club.
	A lot of sweeties over there already.
	Is it uploaded?
	People can see the stream?
	Yeah, they can watch our coverage of Stephen talking about Joe Biden's announcement that he's not going to be running for president anymore for free.
	Again, I should say that all content is going to be free over there.
	Don't pay for it or nothing.
	I mean, if you want to pay for it, that's totally an option.
	If someone offers to charge you for it, they're a scam.
	We went like three and a half hours long.
	Great.
	I remember being there for a little bit.
	You were there for about 15 minutes during all the technical difficulties, which I did cut out, so it's not a big deal.
	Cool.
	We tagged out.
	The thing that I really wanted to hammer down in that conversation is they, for months, even years, have brought up that Joe is slow and sleepy and incapable of running for president.
	And now that he's not running for president, they're like, Pissed?
	And angry?
	And scared?
	Of course they're scared.
	Being kind of weird.
	Being real weird, yeah.
	I think what's so interesting about seeing the pivot, so much of the propaganda machine wasn't about Trump's policies, it was all anti-Joe Biden stuff.
	Yeah.
	You pull away the bad guy.
	What do they got?
	It's like if, at the beginning of the last Avengers movie, they're like, oh, Thanos died in between the last movie and this one.
	So yeah, that was a couple weeks ago.
	Wait, what?
	So wait, so what are we fighting against?
	Well, don't worry about it.
	It's a movie.
	Have you ever seen a movie before?
	Oh, interesting.
	It's going to tell you what it's about.
	So yeah, that was a couple weeks ago.
	It's time to jump back mentally a little bit to a time of less knowledge.
	Oh, yeah.
	This was like a couple days after.
	Day after?
	As soon as it happened, I jumped on the socials looking for Stephen's statement because of course he's gonna say something.
	Of course.
	But it actually took a little bit.
	It was still the same day of the shooting.
	He just had to dock his boat because he went to the lake with his family.
	When it finally dropped, I saw myself a red-faced Stephen with an Oakley tan.
	More like an Oakley burn, I guess, you know, his eyes were Kind of like Donald Trump, interesting.
	And he didn't really say much for about five minutes.
	Did you have a five minute clip of him just staring?
	No, he said some stuff.
	It was just kind of not worth talking about, but unfortunately he stretched that five minutes into the July 15th episode of Louder With Grouter called One Shot That Changed Everything, But We Won't Back Down.
	It's almost two hours long.
	His opening segment, well actually I'm not going to start with that.
	I'm going to start with something from a bit deeper into the episode to kind of set the mood.
	Now it's important that what I'm about to say in no way be interpreted as a threat or any kind of call to physical violence because it's not and that's the only time I'm going to say it.
	So if people want to misconstrue what it is that I say here today, Then fine!
	It sounds kind of like he's starting off with, I'm not racist, but... He's just gonna use that strategy.
	Yeah, same equivalent, but he's only gonna say he's not racist once.
	So if you want to take him out of context for all the racist things I say next... Years ago I said I wasn't racist, so everything else, ignore it, okay?
	Yeah.
	So this is gonna be one of those heavy comedy shows.
	Nice, dude.
	So many punchlines after punchline after punchline.
	You know what they say?
	It's like even when you're upset you should like smile.
	Yeah.
	Through it.
	You know what I mean?
	Because it reflects in your voice if you're smiling.
	You should try it.
	Let's all try it right now.
	Jared, am I smiling now?
	I think so.
	Am I smiling?
	Alright, buddy.
	Are you pulling your fish head kind of thing?
	Alrighty then.
	I'm smiling big.
	Real glad to have the audience along with us for this ride.
	Not glad.
	To be with you, actually, under these circumstances.
	Not smiling either.
	Just so you know, we'll be getting to everything regarding the assassination attempt, and that's what it was.
	That's, well, what it is.
	We all agree.
	On Donald Trump, President Trump, in a few moments where we will be getting through everything that we need to kind of highlight what you need to know.
	Claims versus truth.
	We'll provide all of the references.
	There is a lot of misinformation out there, unfortunately, and so we want this to be the definitive Place where you can make sense of this and And all of this has to be based on truth right and I'm not gonna both sides this thing today That's that's that's not reality The only equivalency that I see on both sides is people jumping onto this story for clickbait regardless of accuracy, but I released a short video The day that this happened it was immediately after the shooting the assassination attempted the attempted transpired
	I've had time to sit and think and pray about this and also see a lot of reactions from people.
	That's my favorite movie.
	Sit, think, pray.
	I like how he also, I'm glad he clarified he saw reactions from people because I thought he was talking about like weather, his animals.
	Messages from God.
	The birds flew away that day.
	So he did have like a day and a half to kind of let the information roll in.
	That's enough to have like a firm opinion.
	And let the rain fall down.
	Sad day for all these boys.
	I do remember where I was.
	I hopped in my car immediately after I heard, I think I saw it pop up.
	David Pakman was doing a live stream and said, Trump shot at rally in his Twitch stream.
	I was like, oh Jesus.
	I put that on, got in my car and started driving.
	I thought you just had it on mute with other sad songs playing.
	Interesting.
	That's not a bad idea.
	I was at a wedding.
	It's pretty cool.
	It wasn't talked about at the wedding.
	No.
	Yeah, no one talked about that.
	They didn't want to dump water on the fire of passion.
	That's sweet of them.
	I was just a couple miles away from a certain grassy knoll in one Dallas, Texas.
	Suspicious?
	Whoa.
	Truthfully, when I got the the news update on my phone, that Biden had dropped out, it was like a second JFK assassination.
	My heart sank for America.
	Your scalp flipped over and sprayed your wife in the face?
	Yeah, my whole wig split.
	I'm sorry.
	But you know what though?
	Yeah?
	I had already gone through security so my head just, and this is a popular one, just kind of did that.
	Well, and I wrote this, nice to know we're in for some really thoughtful considered commentary.
	I don't feel like we're doing much better at this point.
	A bottle of whiskey, thought about it deeply.
	Well he did think about it and these are his personal initial thoughts about the whole thing.
	So a few things I'd like to say, and I think a lot of you are probably feeling, at least I hope so.
	I know everyone in my family and my community that I deeply value right now.
	They share it.
	And I don't know about you, but probably hugged my kids a little bit longer.
	Kiss him a little bit harder.
	Yeah.
	There's a reason for it.
	It's not just hyperbole.
	There's a reason that when these things happen.
	When these lips clutch on.
	It draws you closer to the appreciation of the fragility of life.
	And the reason for that is because this is taking place.
	Someone was just a mere inch away from assuming room temperature, from being deceased, who should have the strongest security in the world.
	So it's natural.
	Is it natural to kiss your kids hard?
	Dude, what's up with him hugging and kissing harder?
	Hugging tighter makes sense because you're offering comfort.
	And I don't see how someone... Kissing hard.
	Kissing harder is so uncomfortable.
	I just don't see how someone getting shot in the ear exposes the fragility of life.
	Yeah, not you all day?
	Well, yeah, all the other... I don't want to minimize this because it is a serious event.
	Yes.
	However, there are people who lose their lives like...
	All the time.
	To gun violence.
	Yes.
	Or domestic abuse.
	Absolutely.
	It's even worse than like a clip in the ear.
	Yes, of course.
	The fact that it happened to Trump was such a huge event.
	It's significant.
	And it was, it meant a lot.
	Yeah.
	For sure, right?
	Steve, I've never heard Steven say anything like this about Evaldi or anything like, any, any other like serious shootings that have happened.
	Yeah.
	It's just a weird fucking thing to say.
	Good reason to hug and kiss your kids hard.
	Yeah.
	I'm gonna, I, I, ugh, ugh.
	I heard that and I gasped.
	Kiss him harder.
	Big president boy.
	My life flashed before my eyes when I saw him get shot.
	I'll tell you what.
	Did you grab the person closest to you and kiss him hard?
	When that happened, when Trump got shot, I was with my sister and brother-in-law Okay, so you guys did like a triple kiss?
	Alright, come on guys.
	Darn it.
	Kiss a little longer, make it last a little longer, longer with Big Red.
	Ooh, nice.
	Remember that?
	I do remember that.
	Yeah, did you ever, did you ever have a piece of Big Red and then lick the wrapper and put the wrapper on your skin?
	No, is that something?
	The side that touches the gum?
	Yeah, it fucking burns your skin.
	Oh, cool.
	Does it really?
	I want to try that now.
	Do you think it still does it?
	Dennis hears me go, alright.
	He goes, yeah, I should actually help.
	I should actually help.
	Let's fucking take a break and find out.
	Sorry, we're doing our best to get through this.
	This is a comedy show.
	Oh, yeah it is.
	Real talk about that clip.
	He talks about how his community and the people that he trusts and cares about or something feels the way he does.
	We know he's talking about his dad.
	Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah.
	He's talking to his kids about it.
	Every person who's ever cooked that man a potato.
	Great.
	Of course, guys, there's no place for political violence in the United States.
	None.
	Are you sure about that?
	Political violence is not unprecedented in this country.
	People who say that either don't know what they're talking about or they're lying to you.
	That's not the takeaway.
	What is unprecedented is the impeachment, prosecution, and false conviction of a political opponent in this country who has committed no actual crimes.
	What is unprecedented is, far beyond political disagreements, the goal to seek and destroy a political opponent, a human being, and his supporters even after He's peacefully left office.
	Seek and destroy, aka held accountable.
	Held accountable.
	Seek and destroy.
	And peacefully leaving.
	Peacefully left office after a small insurrection.
	Well and also after refusing to concede to the Still.
	Yeah.
	Still actively refusing to concede.
	Three and a half years later.
	Do you remember when they were doing the transfer of power and Trump went to go shake Biden's hand?
	Biden reached out and Trump fucking swished his hand away and put it through his beautiful hair and flew off in the helicopter?
	See you later, sucker!
	That's a pretty good helicopter.
	That's a great chopper sound.
	I don't think he said a single true statement.
	Did anybody say it was unprecedented?
	Well, no, but... Like where's that claim coming anyway?
	I think we're all assuming that it's unacceptable.
	I don't think it's unprecedented.
	Yeah, it's not unprecedented.
	There's been plenty of assassination attempts on US presidents in the past.
	But it's been a very long time.
	I think it was Reagan and it's been a long time.
	For sure, yeah.
	Definitely not unprecedented, but still, political violence, it's one of those things that in
	hindsight you look at it and you say, yeah, the Civil War was necessary, right?
	Because we were fighting those things.
	Oh, he's going to get to that.
	But political violence just for the sake of being violent, no one wants that.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Trump left the most peacefully.
	Most peacefully.
	Bigly peacefully.
	There were flowers in his wake.
	And daddy did nothing wrong.
	That's kind of the bottom line here but more on a violence acceptability and I think Dennis you kind of jumped the gun.
	None of it.
	As far as political violence, again you saw my disclaimer earlier, I don't believe that violence is never acceptable or is never the answer I won't speak in those false equivalencies, those platitudes.
	I think the American Revolution was a good thing.
	I think ending slavery was a good thing.
	Those necessitated political violence.
	Let's be clear too, when we have disagreements in this country, people say we can have respectful disagreements.
	If you're having a disagreement about abortion, you're talking about violence.
	You have a disagreement over the violence.
	Now I do believe That political violence... Did he just equate someone getting an abortion to the American Revolution?
	I just want to make sure I understand that.
	Yeah, yeah, he kind of caught that, yeah.
	When someone says I'm pro-life, what they're saying is I'm anti-violence.
	That's what he's saying?
	According to him, yeah.
	They're pacifists for Jesus?
	Yeah, and he gets a little bit more into it, much like the Jacoby Shaddix-Penn song performed by the band Papa Roach.
	Now I do believe that political violence of course is a last resort and a tool only to
	be used against tyranny.
	I would argue a presidential candidate who wants less government and to recognize more
	of your individual rights certainly doesn't qualify Charlie.
	Okay, Charlie, let's rewind about 30 seconds to when you talked about abortion, and I could argue that that's kind of tyrannical.
	To try and take away rights from women?
	Yeah.
	Pretty significant.
	But regardless, at the end of the day, political violence is never what we want, ever.
	Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
	No, no, it is the last resort.
	Yeah, it is the last resort.
	He's not wrong about that, but at the end of the day, just because Trump says, very clearly, says, does not do, says he wants less government, Does not mean he can't be tyrannical because he's said that before.
	Lots of tyrannical things.
	Just like, for example... Reproductive rights.
	LGBTQ rights.
	Disenfranchising voters.
	Yes.
	He just hates the press.
	He said he would be a dictator on day one.
	He mocks the press and says that there's the true enemy of the United States.
	Yes, of course.
	I want to be very, very clear.
	I'm not saying that that qualifies for OK to be politically violent.
	Of course.
	Of course not.
	All I'm saying is that if you do not look at Donald Trump with an open mind and cannot see that he is having these authoritarian ideas, then I don't know what to tell you, man.
	If they want to talk about false equivalencies.
	They really need to see what the rhetoric truly is.
	He said he wants less government.
	That's all he's done.
	He has not implemented that.
	That's like saying that you're anti-political violence and then going on to all these reasons why you're okay with it.
	Sorry, what?
	I'm not sure.
	I guess we got another clip.
	And I hear this empty rhetoric demanding that Trump tone down.
	Dial back the temperature.
	And I've heard this too, I heard it from the former Vice President Biden, that we stop viewing our political opponents as the enemy.
	We need to stop that.
	Kind of tough to ask that of people when you've told them that their political opposition are literal Nazis and white supremacists, don't you think?
	But I'm not going to call for that.
	I'm not going to call for you to stop viewing the leftists in this country as the quote-unquote enemy.
	Plainly because I wouldn't believe in calling you to do that.
	I don't believe in that idea.
	I do believe that we have actual enemies within our ranks in this country.
	I really do.
	And I think more fruitful than empty rhetoric right now, I'd rather help you, all of us, be able to identify who those enemies actually are.
	Do I have to put a patch on my shoulder?
	We're getting near that, huh?
	Is that what he's implying?
	I think so.
	Yeah, an enemies patch.
	Enemies.
	Well, it'll be up in the merch stores.
	I don't know how many times we need to talk about the difference between behaving dictator-ish and then calling him a literal Nazi.
	I just, a bit of hyperbole.
	Of course.
	I think that they're... There's hyperbole.
	People are also allowed to call Trump a Nazi.
	Sure?
	Sure.
	They're allowed to.
	Okay?
	And I'm not saying that Trump is a Nazi, but I'm saying that the Nazis in the United States like Trump.
	They like him.
	There are Nazis here, and they like Trump.
	Yeah.
	I'm saying there are white supremacists here in the United States, and they like Trump.
	That's all.
	So maybe reflect on that.
	Yeah, I'm not saying that Donald Trump is the enemy because of that.
	I'm saying that Nazis are our enemy.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	We don't want Nazis, we don't want white supremacists.
	You're doing things that Nazis like.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's a problem.
	If you make music that only idiots like, you might be an idiot.
	Maybe a little bit.
	Or a rich person.
	Or a rich idiot.
	Yeah.
	A rich, smart guy.
	Eh, it depends.
	That's something to think about.
	Let's start by going through a list of who isn't the enemy.
	Okay, who's not?
	It's not your neighbor.
	Okay.
	It's not your family members.
	Okay.
	Or other members of your community.
	Unless.
	The community you've chosen and hopefully take an active role in every day.
	I don't.
	Even those maybe who vote differently from you.
	Someone believes in higher taxes, they want Longer government subsidized maternity leave or maybe some more social safety nets.
	They're not your enemy.
	They're wrong.
	They're not your enemy.
	Self-identified socialists who are open about their beliefs, their disagreements with you, and who will engage in a form of ideas with you in an honest playing field, they're not your enemy.
	They're certainly wrong, in my opinion, but they're not your enemy.
	But the people out there, They're just words, Steven.
	It seems like he's being kind of a snowflake.
	What's wrong with this guy?
	What if the neighbor called Trump a Nazi?
	He said my neighbor's not the enemy.
	Oh, so now you're trying to look for the loopholes.
	No, I'm saying, does he, uh, does he know how to bend diagrams?
	Oh, he's about to learn a lot more.
	It's not like he just fell out of a coconut tree or anything.
	Are socialists mutually exclusive?
	You cannot also think Trump is a Nazi and be a socialist?
	This is the first time I've heard him say that socialists aren't the enemy, which is kind of nice.
	Yeah, it's pretty wild.
	A little refreshing moment, and I'll soak it up.
	However... I like that he started with taxpayer-funded maternity leave.
	Yeah, interesting.
	That was where he went first.
	He's pissed about that.
	Yeah, I bet that his ex-wife is probably irritated.
	He probably has bills to pay because she didn't get me maternity leave or something.
	People who label you a fascist for being pro-life, they are the enemy.
	Okay.
	People who burned down cities and killed Murdered conservative Americans, fellow Americans at rallies.
	They are your enemy.
	The people who forced you to shut down your business, ruining your family's livelihood, never to be recovered again over a virus without you even having a say while claiming that they are doing it to save democracy.
	Guess what?
	They are the enemy.
	Okay, so the government.
	And the people actively involved in shutting down, silencing political speech for protesting said lockdowns.
	They are the enemy.
	Okay, so the government's the enemy.
	The ruling class, who decided to rather than run on an even playing field, to try and destroy a man's livelihood, his business, his legacy, and the remainder of President Trump's life.
	Because before they take his life, they try and take his name.
	That's what they do.
	Who's they?
	The progressive left.
	The hateful progressive left.
	Caught that.
	Nice.
	He defined who they are, which is more than people like Alex Jones do.
	Normally they don't.
	They being you and Alex Jones.
	I really love that he said that they'd take his name as if Trump's name had any like brand power.
	It's been so like associated with like a It's like the great value of luxury.
	No, you have to be honest.
	About 50% of the country thinks positively about Trump.
	Of course.
	And wouldn't have those negative, haunting feelings when you roll into Las Vegas at night and see a Trump Tower and you go, oh, it scares me.
	Yeah, for every one of us who does that, there's someone who takes a picture and finds a sign.
	They go, hell yeah, let me take a selfie.
	Yeah.
	It's gold.
	How'd they get this much gold on this building?
	It's real gold, too.
	It's gotta be expensive.
	Sorry.
	So the progressive left is the enemy, right?
	Yeah, we're the enemy.
	Sorry for making fun of you.
	And Dr. Fauci.
	And Dr. Fauci.
	Dr. Fauci is actually... Interesting.
	Warp Speed.
	Who did that?
	Huh?
	Who did Warp Speed?
	For the Project Warp Speed?
	I think that was Trump, right?
	No, Fauci.
	Okay, see him at the Hague.
	Exactly.
	He's going to be next to us there, which is kind of cool.
	You're going to ask him a lot of questions.
	The core part of it he talked about was how the government had all these shutdowns and acted like Trump was not in power during any of that.
	Yeah, it's the deep state, it's the swamp.
	Does Trump have the power to drain the swamp?
	Like, does he?
	Yeah, I think he did.
	You know, it's the same argument for like, you can't say that God is all-powerful and all-good because... Bad things happen.
	Bad things happen.
	Yeah, exactly.
	All happens for a reason and honestly, this list isn't over yet.
	God damn it, he's pulling a list out?
	The people who lied, who aided and abetted American citizens being locked up for years over January 6th when...
	huge portion of them are glorified trespassers all so that the people in
	charge could accuse President Trump of treason and leading an insurrection.
	They are the enemy. The people who accuse you of supporting transgenocide because
	my god you're against the government mandating that children be given
	permission to halt their puberty. They are the enemy. So they're prosecuting
	Jan 6th criminals okay so they can make him a criminal.
	Yeah you have to have That makes sense.
	It's like you have to collect so many houses before you can get the hotel in Monopoly.
	It's like that.
	For every ten Jan Sixers, you can get one campaign finance violation free.
	You have to upgrade them.
	It's like a stamp card.
	That's kind of fun.
	Spider-Man's got to deal with a lot of goons before he gets to the big ol', what's the, Dr. Octagon.
	Dr. Octagon.
	I think what's so haunting about this, his very firm, are the enemy, are the enemy is so inciting.
	That's why I started off the clip.
	Yeah, it's just so intentional.
	This is his, I think he called this much like he does most programs every, I don't know, four to six weeks.
	It is the most important stream.
	It is, absolutely.
	Of this month.
	He's not holding back.
	You know what?
	I don't think that Steven Crowder is the enemy.
	I'm going to be honest.
	I don't think that he's an enemy.
	I think that he has bad ideas.
	And I think that there's lots of people who have bad ideas.
	But thinking about it like enemies, it reminds me of this guy I used to know who would always have these Fingerhut shopping catalogs that were like, you can use this tactical vest to protect you from your enemies.
	And I was like, I don't ever think that I have enemies.
	I don't know.
	He's kind of my enemy.
	What is that kid's name?
	Should we look him up on FBI watch list?
	No, it's alright.
	I think it's probably Jan Sixer.
	I wish I could say more confidently that Steven Crowder is not my enemy, but the difference is that when he says enemy, he's kind of implying also it's a package deal that he thinks that violence is okay.
	Yeah, he's listing off people that he's okay with you hurting.
	I think if the logic checks out, if Steven Crowder is your enemy, then the enemy of my enemy is my friend?
	That's interesting.
	It makes sense.
	But you're not my enemy.
	The enemy of... My enemy.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Well, the enemy of... He would have to be your enemy.
	If he was both of our enemy, then we'd be best friends.
	We'd be best friends if he was both of our enemies.
	Amazing.
	I don't know how enemies and friends work.
	But I don't think you're supposed to hurt anybody.
	Yeah, of course not.
	Only tyrants.
	Tyrants, aka the progressive left.
	Which brings us to the portion that we teased with last week's show.
	And you know what?
	Let me put a finer point on this.
	Please.
	I want you to take a second.
	Okay?
	And in your heart of hearts.
	Deep.
	I mean this.
	Ask yourself, honestly.
	Are you a racist?
	Are you a sexist?
	Do you hate women?
	Are you a transphobe, a xenophobe, a Nazi, a fascist, or a white supremacist?
	Are you?
	Well, I hate women.
	If the answer is genuinely no, And I assume that it is for most of you.
	Then anyone who accuses you of the contrary, anyone who accuses you of any of those things, is the enemy.
	Especially if they do it publicly.
	Because let me tell you something.
	I've been in this industry for a very long time.
	The people making these accusations against President Trump, against you, they know it's not true.
	When they make those accusations publicly, they're not saying it for you.
	They're saying it for the audience.
	So he's asking his audience to reflect.
	You can honestly say that you are not any of those things.
	He doesn't tell you what to do if you are.
	If you are, go to mucklub.com, join the Muck Club Army.
	Exactly.
	Give me your money either way.
	Still give me your money.
	But how many people do you think were honestly reflecting and realized like, I am kind of some of those things?
	Shit, I'm racist!
	You have to kind of, right?
	Oh, that's what I said.
	Like, choose two.
	Just the way that he lists it off.
	He's like, we got your regular homophobes.
	We got your transphobes.
	We got the misogynists over here.
	Well, I'm not afraid of gay people.
	If you're a racist, if you're a bigot, if you are a cretin, we will take you over here at the Mug Club.
	It's like a shitty convention where you have to get to know you bingo.
	Yeah.
	Go find another racist and get your mark.
	Mug Club Medicine Show.
	Well, speaking of shitty conventions, we might be watching Gerald's experience at the RNC.
	Oh, great.
	As part of Shrug Club.
	Oh, great.
	I would love to do that.
	Some popcorn, watch him get weird.
	Yeah, who knows?
	There might be some video for that.
	Might get around to it.
	This is silly.
	If anyone speaks poorly of you and you disagree with what they say, they're the enemy.
	Yeah.
	And I know, I know he uses these really like extreme examples.
	They don't even believe the things that they're saying.
	They're just saying it publicly.
	Yeah.
	I understand that what he's trying to say is basically false accusations would make you an enemy, which I can understand.
	But, but the thing is, is like, let me, let me just clarify this.
	You don't have to believe that you are a racist to be a racist.
	A majority of people who are racist probably- Do not believe that they are racist.
	Yeah.
	Or you don't have to- you don't have to believe that you hate women.
	I'm not gonna deny that people are different.
	Yeah.
	I'm not racist but- Yeah.
	Right?
	If somebody calls you a racist and you are a racist and you just don't know that you are, I guess they're your enemy because- They're anti-racist and you're racist, but I mean... Sure.
	But at the end of the day, it's just like, these people are having conversations about making our community, making everything in our world better.
	Saying Donald Trump doesn't respect women, when we have proof that he doesn't respect women, does that mean that those people shouldn't do that?
	Or does that just mean that they're the enemies of Donald Trump?
	Is it okay to be an enemy of somebody sometimes?
	Sure.
	But does it make you the enemy if you're telling the truth?
	No, no.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you are the enemy of the non-truth, folks.
	Violence isn't new, and it continues to not be wrong.
	And this violence that we see, this assassination attempt, is a long time coming.
	And by the way, it's not new.
	We've been surrounded by violence.
	I know there have been some people on the left, of course, who faced it as well.
	But when it comes to the numbers, it's not even close.
	What about all the Uvalde kids?
	Are they left or right?
	Great point.
	He's super wrong about this.
	I'm sure he's wrong about this.
	Abortion clinics being bombed.
	Oh yeah, I've got a great list of it.
	The assassination of Dr. George Tiller in 2009.
	A physician who provided late-term abortions was shot and killed while attending church in Wichita.
	There were never any lynchings or anything before, right?
	Well, they would say, of course, that the Democrats are the party.
	The Democrats are the party of the KKK, yeah.
	Planned Parenthood shooting in Colorado Springs in 2015, where a gunman opened fire at a Planned Parenthood clinic, killing three people, injuring nine others.
	An anti-abortion shooter who referred to selling, quote, baby parts in police interviews, which, of course, never happened.
	It's kind of like an early Project Veritas thing.
	I remember, yeah.
	Yeah, that sucked.
	Well, they were like, yeah, we can get you a buffet.
	There was a 1997 bombing of Atlanta's Sandy Springs Clinic, which the perpetrator, both an anti-abortion and anti-gay guy.
	Numerous other instances like this.
	Of course, yeah, and that's just anti-abortion stuff.
	Yeah, there's anti-government violence, like, uh, what's this?
	The Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people and injured over 600.
	There's everything the Bundy family has ever done.
	There's the Austin IRS building attack.
	You heard of this one, Jared?
	Joseph Stack flew a small plane into an IRS building in Austin, killing himself and an IRS employee.
	A single employee was flying the plane in?
	Unlucky.
	Stinks, though.
	He left behind a manifesto expressing anti-government and anti-tax sentiments.
	Sounds like left-leaning progressive ideas.
	I think so.
	2011 U.S.
	District Judge John Roll, he was killed during a mass shooting in Tucson, Arizona, which also injured Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.
	I remember that.
	And he was obviously there to target these types of politicians.
	Sure, yeah, yeah.
	There's Paul Pelosi last year, which was mocked.
	Yeah, made fun of.
	Really cool.
	And then, of course, there's most mass shootings.
	Yeah, right?
	Yeah, the 2016 mass shooting at the Paulst Club, it's a gay nightclub in Orlando, killed 49 people, injured 53 others.
	So many instances of anti-immigration violence, like you mentioned the El Paso Walmart shooting in 2019.
	That guy was an anti-immigrant white nationalist.
	I remember that vividly.
	Dylann Roof, the Tree of Life synagogue attack, shooting at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in 2019.
	There was the very anti-woman guy who had that weird, like, video confession in his car.
	Elliot Rogers.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, I don't... See, that's where the line kind of gets blurred, and I want to make clear distinction between conservative violence, white supremacy, and then what Elliot Rogers was.
	Sure, sure.
	It would be unfair to lump in all anti-gay, anti-abortion, and anti-women violence into a conservative category.
	But again, like you mentioned earlier, those types of people tend to have those types of beliefs.
	But regardless, if you have those types of beliefs broadly as a country, then of course you can add fuel to the fire who believe those things in a more extreme manner.
	Which is kind of their argument entirely about what the left's rhetoric has done with the shooting of Donald Trump.
	But I think at the end of the day, everybody I know on the left has spoken out against what happened.
	Yes.
	It is not appropriate what happened.
	Not at all, not even a little bit.
	I do not want that to happen again.
	I don't know anyone.
	Imagine if Biden had gotten shot in the ear.
	Well, we will get to that, Dennis.
	Of course, he's not going to not talk about Joe Biden.
	But yeah, he does run through a list of those five cops that got shot in Dallas saying that the enemy, the left, tarred and feathered an entire profession of people.
	Talks about David Dorn and that guy who was killed by an Antifa guy once.
	Remember that unhinged gentleman in Portland?
	Someone said we gotta... Oh, he ran maybe into the Chaz or the Chop maybe?
	I don't... I think that's a different guy.
	Of course gonna be examples.
	Of course.
	I also, I think we should be very clear that we are very anti those things happening.
	I don't think anyone would go to bat for the unhinged Antifa guy who shot a Trump supporter in the head.
	No, of course not.
	I don't want that to happen.
	Stephen brings up the man who was shot during the Trump shooting, Cory Komprator.
	And this is a...
	This is awful.
	You know, just to be clear, these people, the comparators, they have a GoFundMe.
	We're going to put that link up.
	GoFundMe campaign for the family.
	And just to help out, in case I know some people, your money is tight.
	Some of you are thinking about joining MugClub going into the election.
	Right now, if you use the promo code HERO, you get $10 off.
	MugClub $89 annually.
	And every single dime goes to the family, comparators to their GoFundMe.
	At least for the next day of this broadcast.
	Use that promo code.
	He's giving him a day.
	I'm putting another 18 months on my card.
	Again, I'm putting in like a lot of hero bucks in the tank.
	So far, I did go to the GoFundMe.
	I don't see any donation from Steven yet.
	I did see 10k from Timothy Poole.
	Oh, that's kind of interesting.
	And a couple anonymous $25,000 donations, but I haven't seen anything from Club.
	Um, fuck off, Steven.
	I think giving them less than 24 hours while assuming that this is still going to drive traffic to your website?
	Here's what I'll say right now.
	If someone's listening to this show and you want to donate to that GoFundMe, and you also are looking at maybe joining our Shrug Club, don't do it.
	Just go to the GoFundMe.
	Yeah, just don't do it.
	We'll shut it down for a couple of weeks so that you can go and donate.
	That's absolutely disgusting.
	Yeah.
	It's gross.
	It's so gross.
	Hey, you look commercial-free.
	You'll feel a little bit better in your conscience because you're donating to a guy who got shot at a Trump rally.
	And I have your ear for the next 12 months.
	Yeah, that's great.
	And it's gonna be on auto-read.
	Yeah, tune in to hear my shitty takes on your husband dying.
	It's gonna- oh, fuck me, man.
	Yeah, so this is all our fault for turning up the temperature by telling the truth.
	Sean Paul!
	What's this?
	I think that was Sebastian the Crab.
	Temperature, by Sean Paul.
	That was Sean Paul.
	That's us, yeah.
	This is all our fault for turning up the temperature, like Sean Paul would.
	Like Sean Paul would.
	Yes, by telling the truth.
	Sometimes even, you know, Just by quoting Trump himself.
	So warning this is a bit of a longer clip sorry.
	You cannot tell people that a man is trying to assume a dictatorship role and remove your fundamental basic freedoms that he wants to put you in camps lock you up and you cannot do that and then say hey let's tone this down.
	I was actually watching You're crying?
	Vice President Biden's speech in which I don't believe he used the term
	assassination attempt but I could be wrong you can go and check the tape
	crying and he was saying I'm calling my friend Donald that good voice thing and
	there's never a reason for this political violence I sat there I'm
	telling you this is different from how it would have been Take Obama, Romney.
	Take Barack Obama, McCain.
	Take George W. Bush, John Kerry, George Bush, Al Gore.
	If someone were to issue a statement like that in one of those races, you'd say, yeah, okay.
	In this case, I'm going, wait a second.
	You just called him a sucker, and a liar, and a criminal.
	Ah, yes.
	And a dictator.
	Well, he said that too.
	And that he wants to put, wants to put black people back in chains, right?
	Did he say that?
	He wants to strip women of their rights.
	He wants to do away with the Constitution.
	You told people that this man was a convicted felon.
	By the way, clever move.
	Convict him of a felony that no one's actually been convicted of.
	Tell people that he's a criminal, that he's a danger, that he will end the country as we know it, and then say, but we need to We need to dial down the temperature.
	We?
	Here, this should never happen.
	I talked about this the moment it happened.
	We used to have this ethical question, this quandary.
	If you could go back in time, would you kill baby Hitler?
	Sorry, yeah.
	He likes to do the baby Hitler equivalency question.
	It's just this really cool, never heard this before thing.
	If you time travel back to when Hitler was a baby, would you kill a baby?
	Would you stomp on that baby's spine?
	I wouldn't be surprised if he got really into that.
	I did miss the dick off, so I don't know.
	The baby's head is really soft.
	Does he think that nobody called Obama a dictator?
	I mean, I remember posters, I think, on Alex Jones Show.
	I remember my grandma posting something about Obama being a dictator.
	Like a meme with him with Joker paint on his face or something.
	People definitely thought he was a dictator.
	Yeah.
	Of course, with Trump, they're being extreme about it, for sure.
	Because he's saying things like, I would be a dictator on day one.
	I would be a dictator.
	Obama was a dictator because he made me get healthcare.
	Yeah, that's bullshit.
	Dictator move!
	Keep me alive so I can keep paying taxes.
	But the thing is that we saw what Trump did in four years, and the thing is we have a disagreement about how bad it was.
	That's all that's happening here, Stephen.
	And that's fine.
	You don't think it was bad, Stephen, right?
	The progressive left does think that it was bad.
	Significantly.
	I think it was bad.
	He got rid of Roe vs. Wade, which many people do not like.
	He didn't do it directly, right?
	He put the cogs in the machine and then turned it on when he left the door.
	He said he did it.
	He would take credit for that.
	Of course, yeah.
	The thing is we know what's coming with the Trump presidency and we want to prevent it.
	And he will change the country as we know it.
	And the thing about the things that happened after this, knowing Stephen doesn't know this
	in our current version of Stephen we're looking at.
	But think about the things he said after that, right?
	Like, oh, vote for me one more time and you'll have to vote for me again.
	Well, and I mean, I recognize what he was saying.
	Of course.
	I will take care of all of the big Christian problems so you never have to worry about it again.
	Of course.
	I'm going to bring the end of the world, that means the Antichrist is me.
	That's good for you.
	But things like mass deportation now.
	Jesus will call you home.
	Yeah.
	By bragging about the largest deportation in American history.
	That's so close to saying camps.
	That's so close to saying camps.
	It's really close.
	What do you think these people are going to do before they get deported?
	They need to be processed.
	I think they're going to, wait, did you say camp?
	No, they'll go to cottages.
	We're going to put them in an immigrantville.
	Immigrantville.
	It's tremendous.
	Have you seen District 9?
	I don't think that it's a good idea to be like Trump is Hitler.
	I don't love to say that directly.
	J.D.
	Vance probably thinks it's a good idea to say that.
	I don't think he does anymore.
	But I don't think it's a good idea to say that, right?
	Because I don't think he's Hitler.
	I think that he is a guy with very, very bad ideas, and I think that people who like Hitler like him.
	And I would like to say that Hitler was Hitler before all the concentration camps and the killing of all of the Jews, too.
	I'll say that I've always been really annoyed when people act like Hitler started off his set with killing all the Jews.
	Yeah, he came out with the mustache.
	Yeah, he's like, alright guys, first order of business, boom.
	Yeah, by calling Trump Hitler, and I agree with you, I don't like that kind of hyperbole either.
	No, but what people are saying when they say that is that Trump shows signs that he could be an authoritarian dictator if he wanted to.
	Because of the things he says and the things he does.
	Yes.
	That's all.
	That's it.
	We're not saying that he actually is Hitler or that he's actually a Nazi.
	We're saying that he wants to be in power so bad.
	He's definitely slept next to that book and probably... Trump's like a weird figure.
	He may have absorbed it through osmosis, like I'll be real.
	I don't think he read Mein Kampf.
	He held it upside down in front of a church.
	Several times.
	No, there was a picture where it was like my friend Hitler or some shit next to his bed just in a stack of books.
	Is that true?
	Yeah, there was some Hitler book.
	I can't remember.
	I thought maybe it was Mein Kampf.
	Can I lighten the mood a little bit?
	Yeah.
	My favorite photo of Trump of all time is him standing by all the McDonald's.
	Yeah, when he bought it for the winning team, the basketball team.
	Yeah, the hamburger party.
	I like that, too.
	That's when he was at his best.
	That's when he was having... Peek Trump having a fun time.
	That was his last real smile.
	I think it was his last real smile.
	Wow.
	Oh, man.
	I don't believe that this is a time where we all come together as a country.
	Great.
	If you think this is irresponsible, if you think I'm wrong, that's fine.
	You can let me know.
	I think that this is a time to fight like hell.
	I think it's a time to recognize that this has been going on for a long time.
	Before they try and take your life, they take your name.
	They tried it, didn't work with President Trump.
	They're still doing it with other people.
	Many of you, and including yours truly, recognize what is happening before it reaches that point.
	And recognize the active threat, and who is your actual enemy.
	If you, again, in your heart of hearts, know that you are not a racist, that you are not a sexist, that you are not a transgenicist, that you are not a transphobe, insert whatever phobe or ist here, if you know that about yourself, and if you know that to be true about President Trump, or believe it to be true, but if you know it about yourself, anyone who you encounter, who accuses you of being otherwise, Is.
	Your.
	Enemy.
	I hope I've been crystal clear.
	No.
	Now we'll get into the details.
	On with the show.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we ran a couple ads.
	That was the cold open.
	Longest cold open he's ever done.
	25 minutes long.
	So, he had some real Michael Scott answering that question at Dunder Mifflin Energy.
	Yes, I agree.
	A thousand percent.
	If anyone, anywhere, believes anything about anything you are or were or will be or Trump will be or could be, they are the enemy.
	Yes.
	On with the show.
	Drums!
	I'm Nick DiPaolo.
	Sorry, not a good impersonation.
	Apologies.
	Apologies.
	That's good.
	I'm never apologizing for nothing.
	Yeah, I just... I'm taking my best shots all the time.
	Check out this Trump.
	Everything is all right!
	Not good.
	Not bad, though.
	That drum made me think of Motion City Soundtrack.
	It was a little bit like a Motion City Soundtrack.
	Everything is all right.
	It was a little like that.
	Yeah.
	And this will be the last time I do this.
	This isn't fair.
	It's mean, I guess, to say that they're being snowflakes.
	And I thought that they were the party of, you know, words are just words.
	But they have abandoned that entirely.
	The thesis is that if you say mean things, you're the enemy.
	Yeah, that's it.
	Fine.
	Very anti-free speech.
	When our president gets ushered off the stage at the convention in front of all the journalists... Even though he does all the questions right?
	Are you talking about our current one?
	Well, yeah, because he won in 2020.
	Do you think Stephen's going to change the change my mind segment to change your mind?
	Biden's a false president.
	Interesting.
	What were you saying?
	Biden's false, Trump's real, and don't make fun of us when he gets ushered off the stage at the press junket, okay?
	The show starts, Stephen doesn't introduce anyone and continues his rant.
	Cool.
	I think Tim says more than Josh in this episode.
	The cool man?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Gerald's at the RNC.
	Okay.
	Thank goodness for that, honestly.
	Has he had any episodes since this one?
	He's on Grindr just trying to get conversion therapy numbers up.
	He's recruiting for conversion therapy.
	There's a lot that we don't know and that won't stop people from telling you that they know and filling in the blanks.
	We're not going to do that.
	I'll let you know when something is my opinion.
	He doesn't at all do that.
	Also, we have a new TriCaster.
	I'm not used to the headphones.
	It's a little bit different.
	Is it loud?
	It's a little loud, but also because I haven't had headphones on in a while.
	That's true.
	We are not going to be broadcasting tomorrow or Wednesday because we will be live with Captain Morgan from the RNC.
	On Thursday evening, I know that people said, we weren't really taking a break.
	We just, we have an all new TriCaster.
	We had to redo the whole studio and get ready and gear up so that there would be no flaws going into election.
	Because as you well know, during the debate night, you overloaded the servers and it crashed and that cannot happen again.
	So my question to you right now is, where were you when President Donald Trump was shot?
	I thought he was gonna ask, who am I firing?
	For fucking up his headphones again?
	Yeah.
	I swear to God, he's been in this game for 15 years and he is surprised every time he hears his voice in headphones.
	It's so loud.
	I am so loud.
	Yeah, you are.
	It freaks me out.
	Oh wait, you too?
	No, I'm just Stephen hearing himself.
	He's just like, good God.
	You get over it.
	That's what I sound like?
	He was on vacation and everyone else had to work for the Did he say where he was?
	He was on a lake in Texas somewhere.
	It might have been.
	He was on a lake on his phone.
	He wasn't, like, relaxing?
	Well, he ran into the cabin.
	Ooh, and there's all this drama about this vacation house, too.
	Damn.
	I don't want to talk about it.
	That's divorce stuff.
	Ooh.
	Divorce drama.
	But remember, Dennis, when you mentioned what if it was Biden on stage?
	Oh, yeah.
	Here we go.
	Okay.
	Picture former Vice President Joe Biden ducking.
	The man can't hinge at the hips.
	And I guarantee you when Donald Trump went down, and even if he wasn't severely injured, and thank God that it doesn't seem to be that severe, the shock sets in.
	And he had to have a talk with himself.
	No one would have faulted him for not getting up or being ushered off stage in a crouched position.
	No one would have.
	Most people would have done that.
	Guarantee you he had a conversation with himself.
	Get up.
	Get up.
	Show how you are different.
	Put your shoes on.
	That's where he won the election.
	We know two things.
	We know that Joe Biden will never be president of the United States.
	After this coming in 2025.
	We know that!
	He was right.
	Joe Biden is not going to be president.
	He was right about one thing.
	I love how he delivered.
	Joe Biden came into the hips.
	He had the stankiest tone.
	You better believe that's in the drop at the top of the show.
	He wanted it.
	He was like waiting for laughter.
	It was the stupidest punchline I've ever heard.
	He can't even hinge the hips.
	Yeah, I'm like, I don't want to imagine Joe Biden moving too quickly right now because that's as I was saying that I was thinking about that live stream when we when we We sped him up, rather.
	We sped Joe Biden up to 1.75 or 1.5.
	1.5, I think.
	It sounded perfect.
	It sounded good.
	Yeah, he sounded incredible.
	That was really good.
	When I watch this, or I listen to Stephen here, he's describing this like he's like watching like this weird like fantasy like adult film version of Trump, like a flashbang went off and he's like on the ground and it's like a POV and you can see his hands.
	Soft edges, yeah.
	You can see his hands and it's like... He's got the vignette.
	Vaseline on the lens.
	Get up!
	Fight for our country!
	Nope.
	Show him how you're different.
	Show him how you're different.
	And he has to put his little loafers back on.
	Yeah.
	He's gotta get... Wait, where are my shoes?
	He has size 16 Trump shoes, because not even he could get a pair of those bad boys.
	Yeah, it's such a hilarious visual of Donald Trump.
	Well, in all honesty though, I mean, when you think of Trump, you think... Even if you hate him, you know that the guy has a brass pair.
	Shoes and before leaving the stage.
	I think we have another angle here He decided to not only get up and he was he was then of course blamed for this from the left People who talk about victim blaming he was blamed for being irresponsible when he pumped his fist and yelled fight fight Literally, nobody said that was irresponsible I'll say it now.
	I'll say it now.
	You shouldn't.
	I think it is stupid to tell your Secret Service to let you say something after someone just shot seven bullets from an AR-15 at you.
	I think it's dumb.
	Get taller than them.
	Stick your hand up even higher than I think it's irresponsible and it shows a lack of your understanding of the importance of yourself.
	And then you're like no I'm climbing you guys now actually.
	That's so stupid. I think it's irresponsible And it shows a lack of your understanding of the importance
	of yourself Because he if he wants to be a world leader
	I don't want a world leader who's going to stand selfishly taller than everyone else and try to say something to you
	Shoot me, motherfucker!
	His leadership is the important part.
	That's why you vote for someone.
	Sure.
	I think it's silly.
	Sure.
	My understanding is that... I'm victim-blaming.
	Yeah, you are.
	No, my understanding was just that it was clear pretty quickly that they had shot the guy who shot.
	Now, of course, there's still other risks.
	Yeah, I mean I did I remember secret someone someone radioed in like shooters down or something like that But yeah, how do you know that that's not the only sure exactly?
	Yeah, there's obviously a lot that's going on You should get out get to safety quickly But I think when you're probably trained by the Secret Service what to do if that happens to you Imagine trying to train Trump to do something.
	Yeah, you gotta treat him like a small dog and give him a treat every couple things he does.
	Because that's the case that you have to kind of like guide him through this because he's not going to take any like hints from you.
	It kind of also shows like a lack of concern for him as well.
	I feel like on their part where it's like, well, He's not dead, I guess.
	Well, don't get into that conspiracy.
	Well, yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, like, I'm just saying from like a, an entire, like, look at this thing.
	There's a person on a roof in like, I like eyesight away.
	That's got a rifle.
	Like, there's just so much about this.
	Him being able to get above their heads, to me, it's like, well, I feel like this wouldn't happen.
	They'd pull them down and be like, they would overpower the president to keep him safe.
	Dude, that's the thing.
	I mean, there was a lot of incompetence on the side of... You can't overpower Trump.
	That's true.
	That's the thing, bro.
	Biden came to stand up.
	The race went gamma on Trump at that moment.
	He actually floated.
	You didn't see him floating above the Secret Service?
	That's interesting.
	On Shinrikyo.
	The leader who could float?
	Yeah, he had the floating power.
	By squeezing his ass cheeks together really hard.
	Yeah, just super hard.
	Yeah, that's true.
	It's true.
	That's fair.
	Yeah, I don't, I don't, I'm not trying to do a conspiracy hour or anything like that.
	When Kennedy got shot, our big strong boy Kennedy got shot, and his Secret Service agents Dogpiled his ass like in the car, you know what I mean?
	So it's like why didn't that happen?
	I'm just confused about it.
	It is surprising and I think that I guarantee you it's not the last time we're gonna hear about this.
	This investigation is gonna go on for a very long time.
	It's gonna go on for a long time for sure, but I think people just shittied their jobs.
	Yeah.
	And we think that the Secret Service are not shittied their jobs.
	They're humans.
	But they're humans and they're shittied their job.
	That's what I think happened.
	That's it.
	Yep.
	On that note, let's go.
	Priority number one.
	Let's go through who did it.
	Whose fault is it?
	Whose fault?
	Who's to blame?
	Let's first go through who to blame.
	Of course, the shooter.
	Sure.
	Always.
	The responsibility, the accountability, of course, starts and stops with the person who pulled the trigger.
	That's a weird phrasing.
	I wish we could just say that, but that's not the case.
	And you'll have people on the left say it's guns.
	And you'll have people on the left even say it's Trump.
	The assassination on President Trump, the assassination attempt on President Trump was actually his fault.
	Shouldn't have been wearing that skirt to the nightclub.
	We did kind of miss the gun thing though.
	AR-15s are way too easy to get.
	Sure.
	Yes.
	Skirts are way too short.
	Way too short, dude.
	Way too short.
	I love how he's suddenly, how do we describe what he's doing here?
	He's weaponizing things that were formerly phrases and ideas of the left.
	Yeah, that's common.
	It's just sort of like... I've heard him say gaslighting maybe six times in the past two months.
	He's like, they're gaslighting you, they're trying to memory hole things, and it's just... He doesn't really know what gaslighting is if I remember correctly.
	Yeah, he's still confused.
	It's like whenever he says chain gang, and he doesn't quite understand what that means either.
	It is possible that if you have extreme ideas that you might increase your chances of being assassinated.
	I think it's possible.
	Do I think it's possible for Trump and Biden?
	Yes.
	I think it's not because it was Trump.
	I think it's because it was a leading political figure in a very charged up race.
	My thought after it happened was Biden is going to get shot at next.
	That was my thought.
	If you're in politics, you're more likely to be assassinated.
	I think it's just simple math, right?
	I mean... Here's a question.
	Otherwise, it's a murder, I guess.
	Yeah, when does it become an assassination?
	Do you have to like hold power?
	When you have two asses in it, it's an assassination.
	Yeah, I looked this up.
	Deliberate killing of a prominent or an important person.
	Often political or ideologically.
	Sure.
	These have to be important.
	So at some point when we get big enough as a podcast, we can get assassinated.
	Instead of being murdered.
	My goal is to be assassinated, not murdered.
	I want to go out differently.
	I can get behind it.
	There happened to be an assassination attempt on Joe Biden.
	God forbid.
	And I mean that.
	God forbid.
	But he is the enemy.
	And Donald Trump gave a speech.
	I thought if the shoe's on the other foot, if President Trump said, you know, my friend Joe, and this is wrong, this is uncalled for, I thought, my God, you know what?
	He really would have more of a leg to stand on.
	Because Donald Trump said he would pardon members of the Biden family.
	No, Evan.
	If you look at his insults to Biden, he doesn't say he's Hitler.
	He doesn't say that he's evil and he's trying to shrink wrap your uterus.
	He doesn't say that about Biden.
	You know what he says?
	He says he doesn't know what he's doing.
	He says, I don't even think he knows what he said.
	He doesn't even know where he is right now.
	It's people around him.
	And President Donald Trump has certainly never vilified the people who vote for Joe Biden as Nazis and fascists.
	What is he fucking confused about?
	If the reason why people aren't saying to Joe Biden, like, hey, his ideology syncs with that of Nazis or like, you know, World War II era Nazis, then maybe people would say that shit, right?
	But it doesn't, so they don't.
	But then his does, so they do.
	And maybe that's why they say it about him.
	Where is he confused?
	It's a pretty easy A to B. I just explained it.
	He's acting like Nazi is just like a generic like shitty offensive term.
	Yeah.
	And not like it actually means something.
	It could be that Trump is more respectful to Joe Biden or it could just be that Joe Biden doesn't have Nazi supporters.
	Could be.
	That's all.
	The logic checks out.
	Biden, famously, not really for abortion, but willing to vote pro-choice because that's what the party wants.
	The will of the people?
	Yeah, that's what the people want.
	He's always been, or at least in recent years, has been a friend or an ally to that sort of cause, I suppose.
	Yeah, don't really get it.
	I don't know, Steve, it ain't that hard.
	Stephen says Trump has never vilified the voters of Joe Biden.
	No, never.
	Yeah, yeah, wait.
	Of course he doesn't always call them the radical left.
	Never, never does that.
	He calls them stupid people, dumb bastards, losers, thugs.
	He means black people.
	That is true.
	Socialists, communists, which are both in a pejorative sense.
	Of course, yeah.
	He also calls them enemies of the state.
	Okay.
	Not villains though.
	No.
	Villains are different than enemies.
	What is this?
	He also has called them fascists.
	Oh, cool, cool, cool.
	Pretty interesting.
	So it's exactly... I feel like he like didn't believe them enough so much that he sent all those people to the Crapital building.
	Nice, you didn't do that.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Crap it'll do.
	Steven, I'm sorry, bud.
	It just doesn't hold water.
	I think your guy says mean things all the time.
	You just don't remember them.
	Or you laugh.
	Yeah, I agree.
	And if I'm agreeing with you, then it's the truth.
	Or you call us enemies.
	Yeah, what?
	Come on, man.
	What about all that vermin stuff?
	The poisoning of blood?
	Implying that immigrants are poisoning the blood of America?
	Well, those aren't Biden voters because, you know, he wants them to be.
	Yeah, good point.
	He's trying to rush them through the system to get votes.
	I was just thinking hateful rhetoric in general.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, do you think that they would take the votes for Trump though if like the immigrants got the vote if I trumped it
	like an executive order to allow
	Yeah, but they got a vote for me. Do you think that they'd be interested in that but even Steven knows that
	Trump's a piece of shit Yeah.
	I get it.
	Can be a bombastic prick sometimes.
	He hasn't vilified his political opponent as a man worthy of death.
	And I say that because when you say a man is like Hitler, you are saying he is worthy of death.
	Plainly!
	Not plainly.
	The left has consistently, and this is a long montage here because I want you to remember just like the names of those victims, they have consistently, they have passionately, and without end in sight, referred to President Trump as a dictator, a traitor, a threat to democracy, and yes, even Hitler.
	Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our Republic.
	If re-elected, he will be a dictator on day one.
	MAGA Republicans do not respect the Constitution.
	And I will, quote, terminate the United States Constitution.
	Authoritarianism and totalitarianism.
	A person who's telling them, I'm gonna be a dictator.
	Well, Hitler was duly elected.
	That's right.
	Right?
	Autocracy and dictatorship.
	And he, this goes on for quite some time.
	Yeah.
	Faded it out.
	Well, and I, those things he's acting like the left is just saying those things just because they're like, he's a dictator, he's a dictator.
	They're literally quoting things he said and did.
	Yeah, when he said dictator on day one, when he said he would, you know, whatever he said about the constitution, they're quoting him.
	They're quoting what he had said.
	I'm sure Steve wouldn't say, oh, he's taking it out of context.
	Okay, whatever.
	That's like using an actor's lines from a movie.
	Get them in hot water for saying something offensive.
	I mean, the truth is social.
	I understand in regards to the dictator on day one thing.
	I understand what he's saying.
	I still disagree with... He's supposed to be the president, the leader of the free world, if that's what he wants to be.
	Yes.
	You can't talk like that.
	No.
	The D word shouldn't be said.
	Democrat.
	Exactly.
	Demon rats.
	Demon rat.
	But of course, yeah, the December 2022 Truth Social post calling for the termination of the U.S.
	Constitution, that was a little bit more serious.
	He said, a massive fraud of this type in magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.
	That's about as clear as that can be.
	Yeah, that's saying, hey, because I was defrauded, I'm gonna eliminate the Constitution and initiate my own law.
	Even if you think that things are false and fraudulent, I don't think that you should call for the termination of the Constitution.
	Just imagine if Biden tweeted that.
	Imagine!
	I can't.
	I can't.
	I can't imagine that.
	Imagine it's a Stevens post.
	Because the phone will shake out of his hand.
	Yeah, he'd drop the phone.
	Oh dear.
	He's got one of those special ones you get on TV with the big buttons.
	He's got a jitterbug?
	Yes, exactly!
	No, and then I mean then there's the the the MAGA extremists portion of his blood-red Philadelphia State of the Union.
	Is that what that was?
	Is that what his eye was bleeding?
	No!
	I think that was a different speech.
	The one where he had the red lights behind him.
	Well, Independence Hall in Philadelphia, he did the speech September 1st, 2022.
	It was blue on the outside, red on the middle.
	I would have flipped it if I was him because when you frame it and crop it, it makes you look like you're in the militaries behind him.
	Bad optics, doesn't look good, but it's just such a stupid thing that the right constantly brings up.
	They call it his blood red Independence Hall speech when they know well enough that when they say that they're being, they're being, they're lying.
	When Trump's damn wife was doing a war on damn Christmas decorations at the damn White House.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, come on.
	And Starbucks the problem?
	I don't think so.
	Next!
	He was not talking to all Republicans when he said MAGA extremist Republicans.
	He's being very specific.
	He's saying that, hey listen, the people who are the ones who think that, you know, insurrection on the Capitol is okay, that represents an extremism because literally they broke out windows in the Capitol and someone was killed there.
	They beat police with American flags.
	And they tried to subvert the will of the people.
	Yes, they tried to interrupt the peaceful transfer of power.
	Yeah, and it's fucked up.
	And that is extreme.
	Yeah.
	Very extreme.
	Almost as extreme as like... Do you guys want to retake the term radical to be like radical like extreme left?
	We're the extreme.
	We're the rad left.
	Pizza eating party boys.
	That sucks, I hate it now.
	Of course he wasn't talking about all Republicans.
	He said stuff like, I'm an American president, not the president of red America or blue America, but all America.
	I believe it is my duty, my duty to level with you and tell you the truth, no matter how difficult, no matter how painful.
	And here, in my view, this is what is true.
	MAGA Republicans do not respect the Constitution.
	I think it's fairly clear.
	Yeah.
	Did Steven read this on the show at all yet?
	Oh, I mean, this was in 2022, but.
	Oh, okay.
	Well.
	I mean, I imagine at some point he made this.
	It does suck.
	I was going to say, you said duty a whole lot of times and that's a huge part of their show.
	They would have loved that.
	You're right.
	I should write into them with that one.
	You guys can have this one for free.
	But of course, if Trump truly was a dictator, it would be justifiable, right?
	All of this would be justifiable.
	Well, we're all enemies, so he would all want to fight our enemies.
	So let me ask you this, if someone's a clear and present danger to our democracy, if someone who, if God forbid they are elected, is going to assume the role of dictator, And you follow that up by falsely convicting him, prosecuting him, ensuring that he's ineligible, destroy his life, try and take away his ability to make a living, and that doesn't work.
	What's the next logical sequence of events?
	You have to eliminate the threat.
	We'll have no more.
	We won't have a democracy, which it's not, but let's assume someone is educated who's listening.
	We won't have a constitutional republic anymore if he's president.
	We've done everything we can, he's still standing.
	Make sure he's not standing.
	That's what happened.
	I hate that fucking tone he does.
	Yeah, it's weird snarky.
	It's so obnoxious.
	This is just Steven thinking that the progressive left is this organized movement with an agenda that's like, alright, phase one, phase one unsuccessful, phase two, phase two unsuccessful, phase three.
	Not that a man continually fucked up for years.
	Continually fucked up.
	And also, not that sometimes people can just want to be famous so they kill someone famous.
	Sure yeah yeah and we'll talk a little bit about the shooter at the end of the show but he's already said a lot of kind of fucked up stuff in category though this is like the second most fucked up to they the progressive left he's saying it was planned.
	Yes.
	That it's an intentional.
	He's saying that the progressive left did this.
	Yeah.
	Because they want to eliminate him from the chance of being president.
	But here's the thing, I don't care about Trump as much as I care about Trump's ideas.
	Everyone knows that if you assassinate a leader, that the ideas just amplify.
	When I heard that it had happened, I was not even close to rejoicing.
	I was just like, fucking A, this is getting so much worse.
	That's all I thought.
	I was surprised as hell, right, obviously.
	But then I just was like, this is not the route that we can go.
	It's not gonna work, right?
	No, we've fucked up a lot.
	We have tried, not we, I'm not gonna they us.
	I'm gonna say that by choosing to prosecute him the way that we did, we did kind of ramp up his popularity and made him the underdog.
	Of course!
	You make them look like the enemy of the people.
	I was very disappointed that this is the route that things went.
	I totally agree.
	Yeah, it sucks.
	Real quick pivot here.
	Do you think the left can retake We The People?
	Kid Rock song?
	Just the phrase.
	I mean, we did- Let's take it back.
	We have been pretty successful with our usage of weird, and they are taking gaslighting, so we can take back We The People.
	We The People's coming back to us.
	I'm gonna start putting flags up everywhere.
	This is gonna be great.
	We The People, baby.
	Awesome, double salutes.
	Also, five days before this assassination attempt, Biden said this to donors on a call.
	According to Politico, I have one job.
	That's to beat Donald Trump.
	So we're done talking about the debate.
	It's time to put Trump in a bullseye.
	Now, to be fair, that in and of itself would be nothing.
	Kind of like when they tried to make a big deal with Sarah Palin saying target these districts to flip these seats.
	But it's not nothing when you just called him a fascist and the greatest threat to our republic.
	And you've accused that party of transgenocide.
	It's not.
	It's not.
	It doesn't mean anything.
	No, and I don't want to what about all the time.
	This is just another one I'll do though.
	Trump has repeatedly said that if he doesn't win this election, we won't have an America.
	Right.
	Well, he also said he wanted people to leave his rallies and stretchers and shit.
	I mean, well, he always says he wants people to beat people up.
	He got inspired by the Travis Scott show, though.
	That's the difference.
	Oh yeah, he loves the smushing at the end.
	He wanted the crowd kill.
	I guarantee you that after that happened, Biden was like, God damn it, I shouldn't say bullseye.
	You know that he meant, let's focus on beating Trump.
	That's what he meant.
	Of course.
	Any other day of the week, if it was one of their people, they would be arguing the other side.
	There's no way that Stephen is offended by someone saying, put someone in the bullseye.
	Yeah.
	It's stupid.
	It's silly.
	And it was five days before this.
	You think the shooter was like, If Biden on a private donor call said to put him in the bullseye?
	On a private donor call?
	Great.
	Yeah, there's definitely, dude, I guarantee you 20 year old kids in between Fortnite sessions are tuning into private donor calls for the DNC, dude.
	This fucking gooner is on a call?
	Come on.
	Excuse me, excuse me, a question for you.
	No, it's stupid.
	It's really dumb.
	It's a terrible point.
	And I don't know why he's not embarrassed to bring it up.
	He should be, yeah.
	And then he gets a little bit more in his feels, for just a little bit, and kind of, you know... Let's go on a feel trip.
	...philosophical.
	That's where you think about the fragility of life, that we are basically giant walking bags of meat, and neurons firing and electrical energy, and that switch can be turned off.
	And it's crazy to think that that bag of meat and energy can move people and impact the world.
	What the fuck?
	actually ever looked at a cadaver you go really that's what it is yeah because
	words matter ideas matter that's what changes the world that's what people
	try and stop yeah Yeah, it was actually a welcome relief of the stupid shit he was saying.
	That bag of meat can move people.
	People, yeah.
	Do you mean move other bags of meat?
	I guess, man.
	Neurons firing.
	Is he talking about a cadaver implies dead?
	Dead.
	Dead energy, bro.
	You look at the dead energy meat.
	And it moves me, man.
	Yeah, that's a nice little second for us.
	Thanks, Steven.
	Can we put that, when we play that, can we put some like inspirational music in the background?
	Yeah, I have done that actually.
	I don't typically do that, but in this case I did.
	And it's time to talk about the shooter just a little bit.
	Okay, nice.
	What do you think he's gonna say?
	Got a big head.
	Long hair, big head.
	Are they gonna hit us with the Black Rock?
	Anything else?
	I got no idea.
	His head is bigger than big.
	Maybe something like that?
	Yeah, registered as a Republican.
	Which, by the way, this is not something that costs you anything.
	But this person, Crooks, was a Democrat donor.
	Donated $15 to Act Blue, right?
	Progressive PAC.
	Let me give you some context here.
	When we have gone down to Antifa rallies or Mug Club Undercover, we dress like assholes.
	We put on the black mask, you know, you just say a couple things, you say, FISH IS NAZI!
	They're really easy to trick.
	So, we did it all the time, where if, you know, I had been, let's say, shot in Chaz, you'd probably find me with a Green Day shirt on, and Hot Topic fake nails, and a black mask.
	Doesn't mean that I was a member of Antifa!
	He'll show up looking like fucking Joel and Benji Madden.
	would they wear to blend in with a crowd at a Trump rally?
	Makes sense, doesn't it?
	He'll show up looking like fucking Joel and Benji Madden.
	What a fucking dork.
	Black guy, I'll give it to you, baby.
	Probably the worst investigative journalist in the history.
	Of course.
	Show up looking like a fucking asshole.
	You say, here's what we know, and there's still more details coming out.
	I mean, that would have been great.
	I was just saying his idea of someone who would be in Antifa is really funny.
	A Green Day shirt?
	Green Day dude.
	A Green Day shirt.
	Yeah, American idiot, right?
	Get the fuck out of here!
	What's funny is right now a lot of like conservatives are surprised that Green Day's being all political.
	Oh my god, you missed the whole musical era when they did that thing against Bush?
	Yeah, like people are legitimately surprised that punk rock bands are being political.
	Okay.
	Do you know what punk rock is about?
	I got a list of ones they might enjoy but I bet they already know those ones.
	Paul Ryan finding out who the machine was and he was like looking in the mirror and he's like I'm the machine?
	Yeah, when I lift these weights... I had a little tear come out of his eye.
	Oh yeah, it is very funny to think that Stephen's openly saying that when he goes to these rallies he's dishonest about why he's there.
	Act Blue donation of $15 means that you're probably a Democrat, regardless of if you're a registered Republican.
	And your parents are Republicans.
	When was it, though?
	I don't remember the exact date.
	I'll tell you that it was when Crooks was under 18.
	Yeah, he was not able to vote at that point.
	Actually, this is kind of interesting, you guys.
	It means that he's $15 more interested in shooting Trump than Biden.
	Wait, what?
	Okay, he voted for the the money was for the Democrats.
	Yeah, so he's $15 more interested in shooting at Trump than Biden, right?
	He's like giving Biden $15.
	He's like here's $15 shot points here.
	Oh!
	This is a bad joke.
	He's doing a microtransaction?
	Yeah, he's giving him $15 so he can get 15 minutes in front of Trump with a gun.
	And then after that, in September 2021, Crooks did register as a Republican in Pennsylvania, a closed primary state.
	Now this is why this is important.
	It was an active Democrat strategy to register.
	as Republicans to vote in GOP primaries which is required in closed primaries. This was an open
	strategy and people have admitted to doing it multiple times on camera. Did Crooks, Stephen?
	What's more likely? Did Crooks do that? Is that what you're saying?
	That's what he's implying.
	But what's more likely?
	He is a Republican or this first-time voter is gonna do a unique strategy to try to vote for Nikki Haley.
	Eliminate the problem, yeah.
	Yeah, right.
	I'm gonna register as a 17 year old for a primary that's happening in two years.
	Was he 17 when he did the primary?
	He said 21 is when he registered, and he registered as a Republican in 21.
	So he's implying that this kid began this strategy of registering as a Republican three years before the primary that he intended to try and overthrow.
	Very interesting.
	Or maybe he was talking some red wave shit, but the kid was 17.
	Yeah, he's not this politically motivated.
	It's also very possible that the kid just happened to have some like weird bullshit like Republican recruiter person coming through being like, Sure, I don't know either way.
	It's silly to have a strong opinion and also have conspiracy theories about this.
	Oh, no conspiracy here, bro.
	There's always the people on the left saying like, he probably lost a bet and had to donate $15 to ActBlue.
	What are you talking about?
	I hadn't seen that, but that's...
	That's a really good thought on their part.
	I've seen that a lot on the old Blue Maga Twitter.
	A lot of those types of people going really hard on conspiracy theories, trying so hard to pin this on his own party.
	It doesn't matter.
	It sounds like a kid who was a bully who wanted the attention of being famous from shooting somebody.
	Or maybe he was influenced by the elites.
	The elites.
	Before we get to that though, Stephen does a great job of kind of discrediting this whole Act Blue thing.
	Okay.
	By the way, you can find me having given $1, I believe it was $1, maybe more than that, when we did the Change My Mind at the Democrat State Convention in Texas so we could get a booth.
	That's right, yeah.
	What was it?
	It was like World Human Fund?
	Helping humans help the world?
	I don't know, it was complete total horseshit, but!
	Something lame.
	Got us a booth!
	Why did he say that?
	Like if he was trying to make this point about Act Blue mean things?
	I think he's trying to like... Anyone could donate?
	I think he's trying to cover for his ass if anyone ever digs into his donations.
	He's like, just so you know, I did it.
	I didn't want to.
	It was dumb.
	Yeah.
	They made me do it so that I could get my mind changed.
	And I left without my mind getting changed.
	Can you believe this?
	Money coming in left and well, mostly right.
	Into Stephen's coffers here for the use of the Mug Club Undercover, his unit.
	The Army.
	No, this is different.
	The Army funds the unit.
	What about the Mug Club Marines?
	Do they have a Mug Club Air Force Civic?
	Not yet.
	They have a Mug Club Honda Civic because they decided to attempt to harass the family of the shooter immediately after the shooting.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Also, Mug Club Undercover, thanks to your support, they were there on the ground as soon as we could.
	They tried to get to the shooter's house, but it was completely blocked off.
	Here's just some footage so you can see what it looks like there on the ground.
	Excuse me.
	What's going on?
	He's in a car.
	What, I can't go down the road?
	Nope.
	Why not?
	Because I was told to close it.
	What's that?
	Because I was told to close it.
	Okay.
	Are you Secret Service?
	No, I'm not.
	You're not?
	Unless you would quit photographing me.
	Well, I'm allowed to, sir.
	Well, you can move on, too.
	I can, but I'm allowed to photograph.
	You can get out of the way.
	I got traffic coming.
	You can go.
	I'll go!
	Now!
	Alright.
	Have a good one.
	Apparently, you can't see the house from here.
	This is three houses down on the corner.
	That sucked so much.
	Alright, Mud Club Undercover, we got some deep, deep scoops here from a traffic cop telling us we can't go down the road, so... We got two guys trying to get hoagies.
	Come on, guy.
	And so gross to go harass... Did you notice the way he said photograph?
	Okay, that was very calculated.
	He said photo-agraph.
	He didn't want to say photograph because he knows his rights.
	I just think it's so gross to go try to harass the, their son just had his head exploded on the roof after, after fully bringing shame to his, I mean, honestly putting his, his family's lives in danger by attempting to kill the president.
	Yeah.
	And imagine being the parent, finding out that your kid did that, like.
	Well, there's so much, you know, rushed processing or something like that because, like, I mean, and this happens with the parents of school shooters all the time, like, you have to deal with the loss of your child and then also the immense weight and grief.
	Well, and you also have to deal with the loss, like, when you say the loss of your child, you have to think about it from the fact of, like, that's a parent losing the child that they thought that they had.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	It's easy to be like, well, your child was a killer.
	Why would you want to?
	But why?
	They can't think like that.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	I mean, my child wasn't like that.
	The person I knew wasn't like that.
	And that's the thing.
	These parents are like, they're suffering the loss of their child.
	As you're saying, just like, you know, just imagine the feeling of those parents, you know?
	I mean, to be fair, they're probably leftist actors.
	Of course, yeah.
	Crisis actors for sure.
	Bingo!
	Bingo!
	It's just gross and they get some fucking dipshit in his car to go harass a family and a police officer.
	They did have the right to shoot, not with a gun, with a camera, the police officer.
	Of course.
	It is weird.
	It is kind of odd that the instinct of police officers is to tell you to stop filming them, and that needs to stop.
	Sure.
	If I was the cop, I'd be like, oh hey guys.
	This is how we lose our jobs.
	How are ya?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, gross all around.
	Officer Dennis here.
	But keep wasting that money.
	Take my picture.
	Give it to fucking, this is my cousin Greg in Philly.
	Yeah, Greg's gonna go down there and get it settled.
	Cool.
	Don't worry.
	Yeah.
	I hope he got a gas stipend.
	And I didn't mention this earlier, they do have a guest on this show.
	They somehow got an interview with Trump's Deputy Director of Communications, Carolyn Sunshine.
	So we're gonna jump to that real quick. Yeah.
	Music.
	Caroline, how are you?
	I am better than Joe Biden outside the hours of 10 and 4 p.m.
	Thank you.
	How are you?
	Yes, I can imagine.
	Okay, that's a good starting line.
	So he just kind of starts off flustered and borderline hating on her.
	She says some stupid bullshit that I don't really care to hear.
	I don't know if that's the level of seriousness I would like a Director of... Deputy, pardon me, Director of Communications to start off an interview with, but honestly she's on the show louder than... Louder than Grouter, so... Whatever, yeah.
	She might as well be on Comedy Central, definitely not on there.
	Yeah, and I decided we don't need to hear any of that.
	That's fair.
	I do, I do hate how creepy he is towards women he interviews, though.
	It's a weird subtle vibe, but I don't like it.
	Yeah, when their image flashes on screen, he goes, whoa, like every time.
	So I decided that that's probably all we need to hear of that episode.
	That's fair.
	If you made it this far, thanks, because this is, I mean, I never do.
	Excuse me?
	What?
	This was not fun.
	I think we found a way to have fun I hated this one, but I think that this was a really important thing to get through because So much else has happened.
	Of course, and we are now it's it's it's It's Pratt summer Pratt summer Brat Brat summer Kamala Harris, of course, they're saying really nasty awful things I had hoped to be covering a little bit of that but we're gonna jump in its election season It's gonna be a busy next couple months Yeah, it's gonna be quite a bit.
	We're gonna have a new president.
	How wild is that?
	But before we get a new president, we also have to say goodbye to the one who's currently there that's gonna be leaving us.
	They're sending him to the glue factory.
	This is from the episode after Joe Biden decided to not continue his campaign.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I thought that this would be fun.
	Let's say goodbye to Joe Biden with the boys.
	Hello, Joseph, my old friend.
	Looks like your run is at its end Because the nation saw you creeping There are rumors you need more sleeping The operations that were performed on your brain Left you not the same This is the end Alright, they geek, they go on.
	It's stupid.
	That was incredible.
	It wasn't!
	Oh, whoops.
	It is, however, just about all I can handle this week.
	If you disagree with us, feel free to convince us otherwise.
	I know that this was a little light on the facts.
	It was full of feelings.
	Lots of feelings.
	Fuck my feelings, please.
	Well, facts don't care about them.
	Facts don't care about feelings, but feelings are weird.
	Real, real politics, real facts at a later time.
	We all needed to just have like the little side dish, you know?
	Little macaroni salad for your ears.
	Yeah.
	Well, we did get some really nice ratings and reviews on the Apple Podcast and some stars on Spotify.
	Whoa!
	Lucky stars, dude.
	I love this.
	This is from nstucky30.
	They say, I know.
	I don't even know how they get here.
	It's weird.
	Which one of us do they think are those people?
	cool that they got Brian Possein and Ari Shafir to show up every episode without
	having to mention I know I don't even know how they get here it's weird which
	one which one of us did they think are those people do we talk like Ari Shafir
	or Brian Possein?
	I need to do I need to practice my Brian Posehn impression.
	I think you're lower, so maybe you're Brian?
	I don't know.
	I don't know!
	That's my impression of him.
	A Brian Posehn?
	Maybe you're Brian Posehn and you're Ari Shaffir.
	I don't know who Ari Shaffir even is.
	He's a stand-up comedian.
	Either way, appreciate it.
	Thanks, Stucky.
	Thanks so much.
	Sorry for being light on the facts and trying our best with the funnies this week.
	No funnies.
	It's interesting. Sorry for being light on the facts and trying our best for the funnies this week.
	No funnies.
	And then Trash underscore Princess said new to the show, five stars, came over from Knowledge Fight.
	Did they mention us on Knowledge Fight?
	Maybe.
	That'd be nice.
	Oh, is that what it says in the knowledge point?
	It is.
	That's great.
	Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Okay.
	Yeah, listen, that's what they say. Oh It is that's great. All I know is the one guy goes, thank
	you very much Ouch.
	Thank you very much!
	Oh, he does say that.
	Do new Patreon people.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Speaking of that, Shrug Club, patreon.com slash shrug club if you want to support the show or if you want to watch some bonus stuff.
	We're gonna be dropping things like us investigating Gerald at the RNC.
	That'll be fun.
	We went undercover.
	We did not.
	I'm so stoked to see this.
	Anytime we pull together these live streams of their live streams, that's where the VOD of that will be, and there will also be some bonus episodes of us doing our own Shrug Club undercover investigation of Steven Crowder's stand-up comedy.
	That will continue there as well.
	And also, if you currently are deciding between joining Short Club or donating to a friend's cancer charity, please donate to them instead.
	Absolutely, donate to a cancer charity.
	Donate to almost any- Most other charities.
	I would say 99.9% of charities are more worth your while than us, but if you have some extra cash.
	Support what we're doing.
	There's a handful of folks who already have, and we will be shouting them out when we develop a system to do that.
	Thank you very much!
	Yeah, kind of like that.
	I'm gonna get a soundboard sample from Jordan or Dan.
	I was thinking it'd be funny if it was like Stephen saying like fuck you or something like that but in like seven or eight different ways.
	You are the enemy!
	But like I'm like different so it's like a surprise.
	That'd be kind of fun.
	We say thank you and then Stephen says fuck you or something like that.
	That'd be kind of cool.
	I liked it.
	Become a shrug clubber and then Stephen can tell you to get fucked or something.
	You can find us on X at thancrowder, louderthancrowder.com, louderwithcrowder.net.
	And until next time, I'm Byron.
	I'm Jared.
	And I'm Dennis.
	Take care.
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