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Nov. 14, 2023 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 10: OH, MANIFESTO… (NOVEMBER 6TH, 2023)

What's the antonym of a good time? This week, where we discussed the three page, "manifesto" of the Covenant School Shooter that Steven leaked as part of a pretty obvious attempt to legitimize his mug selling business. All while demonize transgenderism and stoking fear in wealthy, white, Christian Americans. This is a really gross mess. Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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	This is an AudioWool original.
	We're fired.
	Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast, louder with Crowder.
	My name's Byron and I'm joined this morning by Jared.
	Hello this morning.
	And Dennis.
	I don't know what's going on.
	This is not going to be a fun one.
	I guess we'll jump right into it.
	Today we'll be covering the November 6th, 2023 episode of Louder With Crowder.
	The episode where he leaked three pages of the Covenant School Shooter's manifesto.
	I wouldn't consider it a manifesto.
	I'm sure we'll talk about that.
	Steven is not only using this big mug club undercover leak to push viewers and listeners to give him money, bring attention to his show as a more legitimate source of news and entertainment, as well as taking the opportunity to demonize transgenderism, and the idea that considering the reality of white privilege is dangerous and stoking fear in wealthy white Christian Americans.
	It's a really gross mess, Dennis.
	This sounds like it's gonna be great.
	A lot of fun.
	Lovely morning conversation.
	Oh yeah.
	You guys had your parfaits?
	Did you have a little yogurt?
	Eggs for your brains?
	I had a monkey muffin.
	Like monkey bread in the form of a muffin.
	Okay, okay.
	Never heard of that.
	It was great.
	Not like an Indiana Jones kind of meal.
	What the fuck is that?
	You know where they eat the monkey brains.
	How are you doing, Byron?
	I'm fine.
	Black coffee.
	It's been a black coffee morning for me.
	Interesting week.
	To say the least.
	We pushed this back a little bit so we could try to get a larger look at the situation.
	Yeah, I think it's, uh, it's a bummer.
	He, uh, used this specific leak as a way to push this hashtag that he was promoting.
	It did end up trending on Twitter.
	Hashtag, uh, Nashville Nightmare Fuel?
	Was that what it was?
	Yeah, that was not it.
	What?
	It was not.
	Okay.
	He also pushed people to Rumble and Mug Club and, you know, told the media to use his watermarked manifesto images, which are... I had to go to Rumble this week.
	Yeah, YouTube did delete this episode.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah.
	I pulled the clips from Rumble, so we definitely have some kind of, not even kind of, very offensive things that we're playing unedited, you know, I guess.
	At this point, it's pretty clear what we're going to be talking about.
	If that's not something you're interested in listening to us discuss, I would recommend maybe not listening to this episode.
	Can I also add that Rumble, like as a platform, stinks.
	Is garbage.
	It's trash.
	It doesn't work well at all.
	The video portion, like if I rolled my mouse over it, and I don't think this is a me problem, because I've never had this problem on any other video website.
	Of course.
	But the entire screen just starts flashing.
	Yeah, it was like, anytime the little player bar would come up, it would just blink, the screen would blink, and then you'd move the mouse around, it would blink some more.
	It tries to look like twitch I guess in a way, but then also it's like glitch Yeah, my biggest thing that I don't like about rumble is the skip 10 or 15 second Navigation on it doesn't show up unless you pause the video.
	You should pause and then pause it and then skip it What the fuck?
	It doesn't make any sense, but I did learn a lot about my Second Amendment rights from the ads.
	Okay, cool.
	And that's cool.
	That's great, yeah.
	How do you feel about Ready to Rumble boxing for Sega Dreamcast?
	Is that good?
	That was a cool one.
	I recently got a SSX Tricky for the GameCube back.
	Kind of reminds me of a similar.
	I've been listening to this for four days.
	Great, okay.
	Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
	I'm excited.
	Well, you shouldn't be.
	I'm not excited.
	Steven starts this thing with a cold open.
	Hey, glad to be with you today.
	This is a little bit of a different day where our Mug Club investigative journalism unit, Mug Club Undercover, has an exclusive.
	We have actually obtained and will be broadcasting today what a lot of you have wanted to see because it's relevant to everyone in this country at this point, the Nashville Shooters Manifesto.
	What a lot of us have wanted to see.
	I couldn't really find an actual source stating that a lot of people wanted to see this.
	I guess I can see some people did.
	Yeah, a whole bunch.
	Like a whole bunch, dude.
	The Echo Chamber wanted it?
	I'm just gonna start right now.
	I saw a couple pages of this from this.
	Well, you saw them all.
	I know, I saw them all, yeah.
	When I hear the way he introduces this, he sounds like he just found out that 9-11 happened again.
	Sure.
	His tone is so inauthentically somber.
	I've been waiting for this three pages with bated breath since springtime.
	Even from the first sentence of this cold open, he's framing this incorrectly.
	He's holding back his excitement because he's going to use this to try and sell more snake oil shit.
	Not snake oil, but t-shirts.
	He is actually not excited to do this at all.
	He wishes he didn't have to.
	He's lying.
	I wish that I wouldn't have to.
	I wish that we never covered manifestos, because that's what the left will say is, well, we never want to cover manifestos, we don't want copycats.
	But they cover them all the time, if the narrative lends itself to white supremacy.
	Spoiler alert, that's not what happens with this one.
	So, you don't have to do this, Steven.
	He doesn't want to.
	He doesn't want to.
	He has to because society needs this strong man.
	We want this!
	I want this.
	I want it already.
	I didn't want it, but I heard his voice and now I want it.
	I'm freaking sweating right now.
	I want this so bad.
	He's saying that it's because of the narrative this was being held back.
	I think that it's kind of an interesting and complicated situation because white supremacy, which is oftentimes the catalyst for a lot of mass shootings, it's a well-established threat.
	I mean so much that they're trying to form legislation around this.
	Like back in February 22nd of 2019, a Trump administration United States Department of Justice official wrote, White supremacy and far-right extremism are amongst the greatest domestic security threats facing the United States.
	That's a Trump administration United States Department of Justice official.
	Of course, media will always have a bit of a narrative, but it's undeniable that it's a huge driving factor in a lot of mass shootings.
	Yeah, and he went on to say, regrettably over the past 25 years, law enforcement at both
	the federal and state levels have been slow to respond.
	Killings committed by individuals and groups associated with far-right extremist groups
	have risen significantly.
	So I think motive, when unprovoked and preventable, is worth pointing out.
	Yeah.
	There's no reason that when a white supremacist shooter does something ideologically driven that it's worth pointing out.
	Totally.
	I disagree that it's important to publish full manifestos of the beliefs of those people.
	Yeah, a thousand percent.
	I mean, you're always gonna embolden some folks when people read this.
	I've always been kind of confused by manifestos in general as like, uh, why would somebody prepare a manifesto and then do something like this?
	But then again, I also... Well, it's to influence.
	It's to express your beliefs and then influence others to follow suit.
	I think that there's a difference between a manifesto and what he shared.
	Yes, and we will get into that for sure.
	The next clip... No one can tell us what we can't cover.
	No one can tell us which trails that we have to allow to run cold.
	And look, this is also why I've said this many times.
	This is not just business.
	If it was just business, this wouldn't make sense.
	This is a risk.
	It is not something that generates revenue for us.
	It is a net cost.
	Fuck you, man.
	What?
	I give him that it may not be exclusively business, but how does it not generate revenue?
	It definitely fucking generates revenue.
	That's why he's doing it.
	Of course.
	That's a thousand percent why he's doing it.
	Most specifically, doing it the way he's doing it.
	Yeah.
	That's undeniable.
	If you wanted it to just be out, do the world a favor, he would just share it anonymously somehow.
	Yeah, sure.
	Well, I mean, I don't know.
	You could also just, yeah, share it out.
	Not have a fucking countdown.
	He centered his show around it, and then he promoted the show for this for a couple of days, right?
	So he's like, get ready, because we're gonna show you some stuff that You wanna see.
	Do you ever hype up bad news?
	I love hyping up devastating information.
	Yeah, for at least 48 hours, you get the Instagram posts, you're on TikTok, you know, you got the campaign, Gerald's out there posting from the shitter.
	Well, actually, Gerald, yeah, he was on vacation, but we'll get to that.
	The next clip is super confusing to me.
	He mentions the motives of the Vegas shooter and how if we knew what we know now, If we knew what we know now then.
	That's how you say that sentence.
	Who's that song?
	The Faces?
	Ooh La La?
	Our world would... Our world could look different.
	Think about, for example, people are putting in this kind of work and I'm so proud of our investigative unit.
	The Vegas shooting.
	If we had more information there, think of how different your world would look.
	Think of how more informed you could be.
	Think of how more armed you could be with information to combat the media narrative that's put out there.
	And have receipts to show for it.
	No fucking clue what he's talking about.
	Folks, this segment's brought to you by Wolter, and just think about how many of these pistols we could have had out there at the Country Show in Vegas, boys.
	Check this one on my desk, and these ones in my holsters.
	Yeah, so last March, there was a hundred-plus page report released surrounding the Vegas shooter Steven Paddock.
	You're familiar with that.
	He was a big deal.
	Horrible tragedy, one of the largest mass shootings in American history.
	But the FBI in Las Vegas and the local police department concluded their investigation without a definitive motive.
	And although both agencies, they said that he burned through 1.5 million dollars, became obsessed with guns, and distanced himself from his girlfriend's family in the months leading up to the massacre.
	A strange introvert, his friend called him, who never made eye contact, only wanted to talk about gambling, while the gunman's fellow gambler, the guy that that quote came from, told the FBI that he was very upset with the red carpet treatment for high rollers seemingly fading.
	Mm-hmm.
	That's it.
	Yeah, so... Okay.
	Gambling's illegal now.
	This guy's mad because Vegas, probably the cloud one that he was going... Circus Circus, is that what it's called?
	It is, yeah.
	He's mad that he spent all this money and he wasn't treated as if he were the king of the buffet.
	That's what he wanted.
	We need to warn servers.
	So, look, this is a bit of a spoiler, but like, I would say, and this is not giving
	away the whole farm here.
	This is I think would be an example of white privilege, right?
	Like he felt like he wasn't treated like the way that he thought that he should have been treated.
	So he killed several 60 people.
	Is that?
	Yeah, and shot like 500.
	But what if we knew then what we now know then?
	Don't make fun of me.
	He killed 60 and wounded 413.
	With a bump stock that Donald Trump made illegal soon after the shooting.
	Listen, I was thinking about him, you know, and this is making me think that maybe I gotta rethink about him.
	I just don't know what Stephen's even getting at with this.
	He's implying some sort of grand conspiracy theory and I have not done enough research on his beliefs about Stephen Pack to really know what he's talking about.
	Does he believe that, like, he had some manifesto that was covered up or something?
	Or some motive that was covered up?
	He might.
	There was no manifesto found.
	So, maybe that's what he's thinking.
	Does he think the police are in on it?
	Are the police a left agenda?
	Like, the police are implanted by the left?
	That's the thing, dude.
	Police brutality is actually made up by the left to demonize the right because the right like the demons.
	Interesting.
	My head is open, dude, and Dennis, you're just like reading the text right out of it.
	So Stephen, uh, not sure what he's talking about, but he decides to kick the show off.
	Cool.
	By airing a two-minute, 30-second ad for Mud Club undercover.
	Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
	It was not a business thing, man.
	No, not at all.
	It was all personal.
	Hey, while I got you here, have you seen these t-shirts?
	Well, they do that too.
	45 seconds after that, they do an ad for their Republican debate coverage and, you know, try to sling some merch.
	But this whole Mug Club undercover thing, we've made fun of the fact that their knockoff anonymous voice is, one, can't fucking understand what they're saying at all, and two, I'm pretty sure it's just Steven.
	So I did like a quick little adjustment on the audio, and I'm just curious.
	Let me know what you guys think, and also listeners at home, reach out to us.
	Can I hear the original clip you're talking about?
	I have ten years of investigative journalism with sleeper cells in every major metropolitan area from coast to coast.
	I see, I see.
	Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm ready.
	Let me know, at then Crowder on Twitter, what you guys think.
	I have ten years of investigative journalism with sleeper cells in every major metropolitan area from coast to coast.
	We don't need to listen to more of that.
	It's obviously Steven, right?
	It's obviously Steven.
	Thank you.
	It's absolutely Steven.
	I'm glad to hear that.
	I like hearing those toms going wild.
	Do you think it's him in the video too?
	Wearing the little, the Amazon like speech noise mask?
	That would be sick.
	A little LED light up thing?
	Yeah, let us know what you guys think at home.
	The Magic Sword.
	That's who I'm thinking of.
	The Magic Sword?
	Yeah, the band The Magic Sword.
	They have those masks.
	They do that escape room type of music.
	I don't know what that means either.
	What does that mean?
	Hotline Miami soundtrack.
	I think they're actually on the second one.
	Do you remember when CNN had that Ukraine war coverage and then went right into the Applebee's commercial?
	This is like a whole podcast episode of that.
	It sounds like.
	It might be the last little bit of fun.
	I don't want to talk about this.
	And a little bit of chicken fry.
	Are we the chicken fried right now?
	No, we're not the chicken fried.
	Mug Club Undercover is the chicken fried.
	Yeah, I guess you're right.
	Yeah, that makes a little bit of sense.
	This next clip, this is the only time I'm going to be including any portions of this manifesto because I don't really believe in broadcasting manifestos.
	I think it is dangerous, but this distills Stephen's entire outlook on the situation.
	Starts with a sip.
	By the way, today is not a program for children.
	We say this every day.
	It's a strong... Usually it's a PG-13+, but today is pretty disturbing.
	Rightfully so, if you're a decent person.
	So, it's not a trigger warning.
	It's just an age-appropriate warning.
	I'll read you a brief paragraph right off the bat here from the Nashville Manifesto that we have obtained.
	And I don't want to bleep it.
	I don't want to censor it, so...
	Fuck you, you little shits.
	I wish to shoot you weak-ass dicks with your mop yellow hair.
	Wanna kill all you crackers.
	There is an underlying theme of hatred of white privilege, of white people in general.
	These are the words of the Nashville shooter.
	You may know them as Aiden or Audrey.
	Today, we will probably have to be very aggressive with the YouTube dump.
	And when I read the full manifesto, we will direct everybody to Rumble or Mug Club because we know that YouTube will remove us for that.
	We were also removed the day after the shooting took place for implying Well, for associating, which we will not do today, the mental illness of the shooter, and they said you can't say that in the context of their gender dysphoria, but today we are only discussing their mental illness in the context of their manifesto.
	However, still, today we will have to be very aggressive if you see this at any point.
	Head on over to Rumble.
	It's a good day to probably do that anyway.
	It's going to be on a lot.
	Yes.
	It's going to be on a lot.
	Use the promo code UNDERCOVER.
	$10 off for Mug Club where you get this show, The Friday Show, Alex Jones, Brian Cowan's Weekly Show, Hot Schwinn's Weekly Show, Mr. Guns and Gear, Nick DiPaolo every single day.
	And if you don't, that's fine.
	Act now!
	Yeah huge super important plug.
	I only left the promo code because it's expired.
	I wouldn't normally not do that.
	Change the waiting music for sure.
	Like a lot of things need to be adjusted if they're if they're taking this entertainment show and making it like such a somber thing don't have... Yeah it's disgusting.
	I mean we jumped immediately into a pitch after he said that this is not what this is about.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, this is straight up an ego.
	This is an ego show.
	Uh-huh.
	You will hear this repeatedly throughout the show.
	In the tiny bit that I did watch before this.
	Uh-huh.
	Just really, I hated how much it was like, I don't want to have to do this, I don't want to, but I'm so thankful I am.
	Well, much like we aren't doing this alone, neither is Steven.
	Okay, good, good.
	Yeah.
	Number two in command, CEO, Gerald.
	Captain Morgan, how are you?
	I'm doing well, sir.
	How are you?
	I'm doing well.
	I'm just trying to make sure that I handle this correctly, and then it'll get very silly.
	I picked one hell of a weekend to take a little vacation.
	I hope you had a hell of a vacation, Gerald!
	I know, I'm sorry!
	They're so giddy about this.
	Yeah, they're fucking pumped.
	They're excited to get through the serious part and get to the laughs.
	Yeah, let's get to the goofs.
	With Gerald being out over the weekend, why are they rushing into this?
	You know why.
	Because Gerald's been on vacation, but he spent the entire time ignoring his wife and kids to figure out how they're going to approach this particular episode for the last four days or whatever he was out for.
	Just alienating himself from his family.
	I mean it doesn't make any sense to me that if this was a leak that they'd been chasing for a long time that they would rush to release it.
	And it's pretty apparent that it happened very quickly.
	He says something about they had a super rigorous vetting process.
	It's the real deal, folks.
	But also, uh, third chair.
	Who's that?
	A guy totally necessary and capable of talking about all of this.
	He's so smart.
	Well, I was gonna say the Hodge twins as a joke, but no, the Hodge twins aren't- They're so smart?
	It's really the only choice that they had, I think, because Nick DiPaolo Well, certainly couldn't have handled this, right?
	YouTube couldn't handle Nick DiPaolo, let's be clear.
	And then in third chair, when you hear this, you know who it is.
	November 19th, 10th, 11th, he is going to be at Good Nights.
	Cut the music.
	Not Charlie Good Nights, Good Nights in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	You can see the rest of his dates at briancallin.com.
	And a show off limits here on Mug Club Tuesdays.
	How are you, sir?
	I'm well, my friend.
	Feeling a little bit like a newborn puppy.
	Had some cheesy popcorn at 12 o'clock last night.
	Great.
	Why would that make you feel like a puppy?
	Well, because I feel a little swollen about the eyes.
	I know that my face is naturally very tight, so you can't feel it, but I can.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like Macaulay Culkin.
	Yeah, because my face is important for this episode.
	Yes, exactly.
	You know what I mean?
	That's what people will remember.
	I'm glad he caught himself, but the vanity of Brian Callan, that was real.
	Yeah.
	He thinks that his eyes are puffy because he ate too much salty snacks the night before.
	Fuck off, Brian.
	He had too much smart food.
	He's still got some cotton in his ma right there.
	Jesus Christ.
	Yeah, Steve, my face is all tight.
	It kind of does look like he's a...
	Sucked on a lemon a few times, I guess.
	Yeah, him with his friend Will Sasso.
	Remember him?
	Oh, I've missed those.
	Oh, that was a different, simpler time.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	This is where Steven decides to give permission to, you know, pretty much anyone to use this information he's about to share.
	Oh, cool, cool, cool.
	Just don't lie about it.
	You guys can all take this out there.
	I don't care if you disseminate it.
	If you clip this from the show, we have a watermark there just so things don't get ripped and taken out of context.
	Not so much concerned with attribution as we are people taking things and then lying about them, which does happen in the era of fake news both on the left and the right.
	So you can use it, you can share it.
	If you want to screen record this episode because we get removed and you want to clip it, that's fine.
	We just ask that you support us where we are.
	Not concerned about attribution.
	That's why I put a...
	Oh, just a massive louder than Crowder, pardon me, with Crowder watermark.
	If you want to make it so it's like not easily distorted or possibly photoshopped, you could do a lot of different things.
	You could watermark differently.
	It doesn't need to say louder than, pardon me, with Crowder.
	I'd love to hear the logic that says, I put a watermark on it so people cannot lie about it.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	That'd be like, you remember that picture of Trump AI generated of him like carrying dogs through like Puerto Rico floods?
	Never seen it, but I don't doubt it exists.
	It sounds like one of the NFTs he put out.
	Those are incredible.
	Exactly.
	And if I put a watermark on that, does that mean no one can lie about it now?
	That's right.
	What the fuck is that strategy?
	Watermarks don't prevent lying about things.
	He's just trying to talk as quickly as he can to get over the fact that he's using this image as an advertisement for his program.
	Yep, for sure, yeah.
	That's what I've been doing with all of the, like, the Gaza footage.
	I've been slapping, like, a cool, like, banjo song.
	I put my TikTok handle on there, banjo song, and then say, follow me for more disaster.
	Do you put, like, game footage underneath it, too, to keep the young people's attention?
	Yeah, me cutting kinetic sand below, me tying, trying to get a point across.
	Nice, good, good, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm going to set a timer here.
	Because in 15 minutes, here we go, let's set it, in 15 minutes exactly, I am going to read the entire manifesto.
	Will not be available here on YouTube if you're watching, but on Rumble.
	So you've seen it, but we have more context to provide with it.
	Couple cool things he's doing here.
	This is a trick that he learned from Alex Jones.
	Alex does this thing, he's like, at the top of the hour, I'm gonna tell you the most life-changing secret that no one wants you to hear.
	Tell your friends.
	Run down the middle of the street screaming, Infowars.com!
	And this is kind of the equivalent of that, saying in 15 minutes, I'm gonna read the manifesto.
	So I need you to tell everyone.
	Put 15 minutes on the leaderboard and mope!
	A little bit of guts humor there.
	Do you have it?
	Guts.
	Oh man, I love this.
	I hate this, but I love this because it's just showing how insincere he is.
	Of course.
	You know?
	Breaking news, in 15 minutes I'll tell you which tower was hit first.
	He's just giving, he's giving room for more people to tune into his broadcast.
	Exactly, he's saying share, share, share, share, share, share, share, share, share.
	Not for me though, for the, for society.
	Yeah.
	And he is moving it to Rumble.
	Yep.
	So not only is he saying everyone needs to tune in in 15 minutes, but you need to be at rumble.com because it's, it's gonna go dark on YouTube at that point.
	Can we just also say that, uh, how long is this show normally?
	It's normally about an hour.
	An hour?
	Do you think that if you can read it in an hour, it shouldn't be called a manifesto?
	That's a good point, Dennis.
	I will say that arguing if it's a manifesto or not is... It's kind of a moot point.
	Yeah, it's a moot point.
	It's a bad argument.
	But just don't be a fucking asshole.
	You gotta think back about the great manifestos of history, you know?
	And how long they took to write.
	Years in prison, this Ted Kuznetski.
	Yeah, I was gonna say, you're thinking about Ted.
	And he's putting several out.
	He's putting a new one out every year or whatever.
	Is he?
	Well, he's dead now.
	He's dead now.
	I think he was.
	He was like, I think at the end there, kind of writing to like, Ted's thoughts on 2021.
	That's a sub stack I would subscribe to.
	Another year in the clink, boys.
	Manifesto Volume 7.
	What have we learned?
	Yeah.
	It's a lot of that, but.
	Let's keep learning.
	If you don't remember, they immediately tried to transition to gun control before the bodies.
	Yep.
	They even assumed room temperature, which happens all the time.
	And then the shooting kind of went away, sort of like Vegas, once we found out a little bit more about the shooter.
	So before we get to the manifesto, which provides you most of what you need to know, here's what we know, or what you likely know already.
	First of all, I don't want this to be a true crime podcast.
	We don't need to go into the details about the shooting itself.
	I just want to focus on what he's trying to do with the information and using this manifesto as like a bit of a vessel for that.
	Of course, yeah.
	It's March 27th, 2023, mass shooting at Covenant School at the hands of a 28-year-old person named Aiden Hale, born Audrey Hale, a transgender man that was a former student at the school and they took the lives of three nine-year-olds and three adults before being shot and killed by two police officers.
	I think that's pretty much all you need to know about the situation.
	There were some pages discovered the police in a conference said that they knew the motive and they had a manifesto and that has kind of went back and forth a little bit over time as things have become more clear.
	He pointed out that it's inappropriate for us to bring up gun control before the bodies have even cooled down.
	I don't know.
	I disagree.
	I think that there's no better time to talk about it.
	Well, I mean, ideally, those times don't happen.
	Before that happens is ideal.
	The conversation takes maybe too many breaks, I guess, because it's...
	How many mass shootings were there in America this year alone, you know?
	There's been more than one a day.
	The conservative side of it is like, well, they'll count anything as a mass shooting if there was more than three people there.
	See, but that's the tough thing.
	They're always arguing about gang violence in Chicago's South Side, but they only use that information when it's important to their argument.
	Yeah, to be a racist when it comes down to it.
	And that's, that's essentially what all this is.
	It's like, obviously what Steven aims to do here is to other this person because they're transgender, but he would do the same thing.
	He did the same thing with the kid last week that was black that played the knockout game, right?
	Like it's no different.
	It's the same show.
	He's doing the same thing.
	He's just put a couple more ad bucks behind this one, pretty much.
	I think what I really hate about when people say you're politicizing it or whatever, you're going to turn it into a politics thing.
	Sure.
	It is forever a fucking politics thing.
	And there's also nothing wrong with talking about the politics about something.
	Politics have shifted and become like pop culture and people kind of have lost the idea of like what really politics is.
	People say I don't want to talk politics because they don't want to talk about it.
	They're trying to get out of the conversation entirely.
	That's all.
	And what I would say is that that's an excellent example, Dennis, of white privilege.
	But we'll get more into that.
	Steven points out that seven months ago that police shared that they had a manifesto and were looking into the motive and then that the story disappeared So that's seven months ago.
	Yeah, they've had access.
	There's many people had access.
	There's a theory to what was left behind at least 20 journals Okay, there was a suicide note a memoir.
	It has been seven months.
	Why has it never seen the light of day?
	Especially if this is a situation where the motive is pretty clear, as you'll see from the manifesto.
	And again, we're 11 minutes away from reading it in its entirety.
	Use the hashtag... Nope.
	But what do you think the reason for the story disappearing could be?
	That there was like 36...
	Other mass shootings, I hate the news.
	That's also true.
	Something that I imagine we're going to talk about later is there most certainly needs to be sensitivity around someone who happened to be transgender.
	If that is a motive, that doesn't necessarily need to be advertised the same way a white supremacist shooter is.
	Yeah, I mean, if a motive is not totally cut and dry, then anything else is going to be an inference of their motive.
	And we aren't the people to make that call.
	And isn't that sort of like Stephen's point, right?
	It is.
	I mean, like the police and the parents, everyone that's involved in this situation, aka not Stephen Crowder, they all put their heads together and said, maybe we don't let this get out there.
	You know, I don't want to step on it.
	I know that you've got the clip coming up here.
	What's it called when something is removed from its greater source to paint a picture?
	Is that called taking it out of context?
	Out of context, I think.
	Okay, I just was curious.
	So he got all 20 journals?
	No, I don't think so.
	Looks like three pages.
	Okay, they'll probably be small journals then.
	This is like an aside.
	Are you going to cover at all the Nashville, his follow-up interview that he did the day after?
	Oh no.
	I wish we had time for that.
	Sure, sure.
	No, but I don't know if it's like important or would be important to put in here.
	In that interview that he does with the Fox Nashville station, The woman conducting the interview asks him if he has more than just the three pages and Stephen... Probably one of the only good journalistic moments that she had in that.
	It was, she was wholly unprepared for this interview.
	But you know what though?
	Is that like he really did a fucking, uh, change my mind segment on her, right?
	Yeah.
	Like he he did a good job flipping the script on her a little bit and more or less just preached this episode at her the cliff notes of it.
	Sure.
	A lot of the stuff that he's saying if you're not like doing what we're doing why would you have anything to say to that or get caught in any kind of like whirlwind of like disagreeing with him over these really fucking stupid points that he's trying to make But when she asks him, you know, if that's all he has is just the three pages, he defers.
	He's not going to say, but that the three pages are the ones that are most relevant to the conversation around the shooter itself, right?
	Yeah.
	First off, no one's fucking talking about this except for him on that day.
	You know what I mean?
	Like there's nobody that's like, Every single day they're waking up to see perhaps people that are like more closely connected to it would be perhaps but not Steven Crowder's audience.
	They're not chomping at the bit to get any more information about this.
	They've already forgotten about this person just as soon as they learned about them.
	You know his assertion that like, you know, people want to hear this blah blah blah But he makes it sound like he has a lot more he refuses to confirm or deny what he actually has which yeah He's holding a hostage is what he's doing and he states that he wants everything to come out in Yeah, he wants everything to come out, but like, why?
	What he's released of this to us to see, it doesn't really change anything.
	He's calling their bluff.
	He knows that whatever is released, if there is a full manifesto or multiple journals, that it is not going to do anything but expose a horrifically mentally ill person.
	And when I say schizophrenic, I don't mean clinically, but like a broad number of influences that got us to where we are with this horrible situation.
	It's kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back kind of a thing, like you can't blame every individual straw with the same force of the whole.
	Sure.
	Right?
	Even if this manifesto has certain things in it that might point to a certain group of people or whatever it may be, if you look at it in a greater context, which I'm sure that the police did.
	And I'm sure Steven refuses to.
	Of course, yeah.
	If you look at it in that greater context, It's probably going to be like, I hate society.
	The pages that he released, if you just showed that to somebody, you'd be like, is this the ravings of a trans person?
	It doesn't really lend itself to that narrative, right?
	No, it doesn't.
	But if you keep letting people know that this is a trans person that did this, this is a trans person that shot these people, and you have to be afraid of trans people because, I mean, they're different than you.
	It's like they're the other, right?
	Give me your ad bucks.
	Like, let me let you be afraid of this.
	We're just at the top of this thing right now, and it's very much like... Yeah, let's jump into clips.
	He's not indicating that there's an ongoing investigation to find out what happened.
	He's not saying we're trying to piece this thing together and gather information.
	He's saying, hey, we have truckloads of data right now, and we have a pretty good theory as to why this happened, and we'll let you guys know later.
	But he also said we don't know the motive.
	Right, he said he didn't know the motive.
	I understand he's maybe trying to guard it and say, before we release it, because if he says, hey, we know the motive, the next question is, why won't you tell us?
	You're talking about now a condition when it comes to transgender, where you're not allowed to equate mental health With gender dysphoria.
	And even when a kid comes in, there's plenty of evidence in St.
	Louis Children's Hospital when a child would come in, obviously exhibiting insane behavior.
	That could be bestiality, all kinds of strange things.
	You weren't allowed to correlate that with what was going on with their gender dysphoria.
	Is that the example?
	Sorry guys, I rolled my ankle falling down that slippery slope.
	Is it because you fucked a dog on the way down?
	Jesus Christ.
	Why that example?
	Yeah, I mean...
	Oh, fuck.
	I mean, I know why.
	Yeah, I was going to say, it's pretty clear what they're doing.
	It's like, but fucking come on, man.
	Riles up the bass.
	Stupid.
	It's just like the, you know, obviously this is the same shit, so.
	Pluck them together here.
	I understand that many of you don't want this.
	You don't want copycats, but we have them from other shootings.
	Yeah.
	We have them from Christchurch.
	We have, when it's white supremacy, the difference is White supremacy isn't taught in schools.
	A big part of the inspiration here with this shooting is taught as a matter of curriculum.
	Let's go to some of the pressure that's been applied here federally.
	You have the U.S.
	Attorney Alexander W. Resser said, because of these ongoing investigations, the FBI determined that disclosure of the requested documents could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings and withheld all responsive records under the Freedom of Information Act.
	There are a bunch of people who don't want this manifesto being released.
	Um, there are groups, uh, teachers, some of the parents involved, not all of them, saying that they're in uncharted waters, this is not something that should be released, there's a bunch of, I don't think we need to list necessarily their reasons, but you better have a good reason for saying that.
	We think that this would interfere with the enforcement, there is no investigation, we know that.
	We're trying to get to maybe the bottom, did they have somebody helping them with some other, but you better have a good explanation, and I hope that people are not so Distracted that when this explanation comes out and it's not good because of based on what we've seen there is no explanation for why you would delay putting this stuff out there other than one and we called it and we'll get to that in a minute.
	I have a really strong guess.
	You better hold their feet to the fire.
	What is the explanation of this?
	It's all the agenda.
	Dog fucker stuff.
	The dog fucker stuff.
	We know about how Steven feels about dogs and anuses.
	Expose them.
	Yeah, anyone that commits a mass murder is mentally ill.
	Yeah, of course.
	I mean, so that that's all that really needs to be said right now.
	They had determined that someone helped.
	Do they believe somebody helped this person?
	That's what he was saying.
	No.
	Is it like in the manifesto?
	Like, before you go in, call so-and-so to arrange the unlock.
	No, no, they did reach out to a basketball, like a teammate before the atrocity explaining that they were about to kill themselves and commit this crime.
	That's as close as you get to like a warning?
	I guess an early warning for this?
	Yeah.
	The problem with this is these grand beliefs that there's going to be these remarkable reasons isn't necessarily the case.
	People think that really big things have really big like reasons and sometimes they don't.
	Sometimes they just don't, you know?
	Sometimes people are mentally ill.
	Yeah, of course.
	Do you have any strategies for us to maybe use mentally ill tragedies to grow our base?
	That's the first thing I was thinking, too.
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	Not that I would hope that there would be better systems in place to, you know, prevent and help people who are gay.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Maybe we could, like all the divorce stuff that Steven's not into, maybe we could be pro that stuff and try to see if we can catch anybody who also agrees that they should have rights in a relationship.
	That's interesting.
	That's interesting.
	I don't know.
	Let me think about that for a second.
	When you see this manifesto, you will see inspiration directly from what is taught in our schools as part of the curriculum from the progressive left.
	People would read this manifesto and have to ask themselves, a lot of people don't know, a lot of boomers don't, wait, what's white privilege?
	Why is this person so mad about it?
	Every school we know is teaching young children that there are, that's why.
	It would raise some questions.
	Because they're what?
	Everybody!
	Not someone in a neo-nazi gang trying to emulate Ed Furlong in American History X. Let me go to April 28th, 2023 because we have seven minutes here on this timer and when that happens we're going to be reading the manifesto in its entirety.
	Chicken on the clock!
	Moat!
	Stop doing that!
	Yeah, he is so afraid of white privilege.
	It's fucking crazy.
	Like how insecure do you have to be?
	Talking about what happened in our past and how that might affect the way things are now, that that is so scary.
	It makes me really angry.
	It makes my skin crawl, yeah.
	I'm so upset about this.
	I can't believe that we've learned anything over time.
	What the fuck?
	I don't want to learn new things.
	Those things make me feel weird and make me feel bad about some things my people have done in the past.
	I might have treated people like really shitty, apparently, and now I gotta go back, what, 36 years and undo all of that?
	I don't think so, mister.
	Leans in extra hard.
	It sounds like if Steven thought back to when he was 12 and he pushed a kid and he felt bad about it now, that he would, as a matter of principle, be like, I don't even feel bad about what I did in the past.
	Honestly, it's that kid's fault.
	Yeah, it's that kid's fault for being around.
	Exactly.
	That checks out.
	I mean, like I've mentioned before, his like his humor when he goes beyond like a stereotype or something like that is very just, you know, South Park adjacent.
	It's nowhere near as clever as those guys have been in the past, you know, but it's certainly has an evolved past.
	What he was seeing is like an 11 year old watching that for the first time.
	You know his parents were definitely not allowing him to watch that so he probably has some sort of like yeah I'm a fucking rebel dude I fucking watched Cartman with the fucking anal probe dude come on.
	Cheesy poofs.
	He's got more reason for you know people to believe.
	Give me one reason.
	Well he's got a couple.
	The National Police Association filed a suit themselves to obtain the manifesto And also, I believe, the Nashville Police Department's communications.
	Now, they speculated that the Nashville Police Department was hiding material due to, and they cited this, this is in the actual suit, the filing, political pressure.
	Let me read this for you.
	It says, the FOIA also requested all records including emails, texts, and other communications to and from the MNPD mentioning or regarding the writings of Audrey Hale recovered by the MNPD because it is possible MNPD has been subjected to political pressure to keep all or part of the writings secret.
	So they go on, the NPA go on to say on their website that they believe that releasing the complete materials will benefit law enforcement and the public.
	The writings of killers often can offer critical insights into the factors that contribute to the development of criminal behavior, While the content of these documents may be disturbing, they can provide researchers and law enforcement with valuable information that can be used to prevent future acts of violence.
	Which is interesting, but even more interesting to me, who are the NPA?
	Indy Star did a bit of digging into the organization a couple years ago actually.
	The International Police Association?
	Yes, that's right.
	The article is called, This Indianapolis Charity Says It Helps Police.
	Police Chief Says It's a Scam.
	Okay, so it's just like called the National Police Association?
	I love that you're already ahead of me on this.
	The president of the National Police Association is a 59 year old guy named Eddie Hutchinson.
	I love Eddie.
	Is he a former cop?
	No, he volunteers at this website, of course, but by day he- That's kind of like a cop being a moderator.
	I guess that's true.
	He works for the Indiana Attorney General's office as a fraud investigator, which is very interesting.
	He has an eclectic background, though, too.
	A brief congressional run in the 90s, he was often a shock jock guest on talk radio.
	He also What's this?
	Operated a website, it's called USA Dream Girl, a model search website that displayed photographs of scantily clad women and then asked others to rate their appearance.
	Nice, so he did like Hot or Not before it was cool?
	Basically Hot or Not for hireable models.
	Okay, cool, great.
	USA Dream Girl, great.
	He's definitely focused on the greater good, it sounds like.
	Of course.
	The treasurer of the NPA is this guy named Derek Peterson, who also previously worked for the Indiana Attorney General.
	This is a quote from the article.
	At the time of overheated political rhetoric, the National Police Association is hauling in money and gaining attention by leaning into culture wars.
	In fundraising letters, it paints a dystopian picture of communities and police departments under attack.
	They're not formally associated with any police department, certainly not anywhere near Nashville.
	They're not transparent about where their money goes or who it helps.
	They don't provide reasonable transparency.
	They're a scam that at least four police departments in four states have issued scam alerts for, and Stephen is using the name National Police Association as if it has any significant status.
	It's a guy with a website.
	You don't believe the police?
	I'll give you a check for $10.
	Where do I send it straight to Nashville?
	It's wild how many things he says as if it's matter-of-fact It's it's the same thing as when like an MLM tries to sell you a product and they like quote some random Organization that has no affiliation with anything serious, but it sounds serious.
	Yeah, it's dishonest But I wouldn't expect anything less I kind of forgot to make this point earlier, but when we were listening to the clip and we kind of, we talked over it like a little bit when he just sort of stops his sentence, like he doesn't finish saying what he's trying to say.
	Yeah.
	Do you think that's intentional when he does that?
	So it's like, we're like, we're, we're saying he said all this shit, but he actually like, didn't finish.
	Yeah.
	He implied it.
	He didn't finish saying it.
	So he could like have some sort of like easy out to say like, I didn't say that.
	He has a really interesting way of talking where his sentences end and start at the same time, which is really... Trump does that a lot, too.
	If you ever, like, read Trump's, what do you say, the text version of one of his speeches or something, he never finishes a sentence.
	It's just a lot of, like, dot dot dots, you know?
	Yeah.
	Well, and I also, before we move away from this clip, I want to talk about how Stephen says that the police have backtracked regarding the manifesto.
	They kind of have.
	There's an article from the BBC called why some right-wing activists zeroed in on the Jacksonville shooting which it goes into manifestos as a and they say although police initially on this in this specific case although police initially cited journals and other writings left by the Nashville shooter officials later clarified that documents did not amount to a quote manifesto a clear statement of ideology and intent describing the motivations behind such a horrific crime The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation director David Rausch, which this is a real organization, later told news outlets that describing the documents as a manifesto was a quote mischaracterization.
	Ideological expressions, none of that has surfaced in these writings.
	It's really unfortunate mental health issues that you can see as you read through the journals.
	I feel like that's clear as day.
	So it's clear, but they're fucking hiding something.
	What are they hiding, man?
	I mean, Steven is the one that's doing the hiding.
	If he has more pages that prove that this is incorrect.
	Okay, listen.
	This guy, I don't trust.
	Steven Crowder, guy who runs a for-profit show where if I sign up for Mug Club, he makes a lot of money.
	I trust that guy to tell me the right thing.
	Not this police guy.
	Fuck this police.
	Is he even a member of the NPA?
	Likely not.
	In general though, on all this, Stephen doesn't agree and feels that because the killer discussed private school, nice khaki, wearing crackers, that's enough motive for him.
	And by the way, this administration, who has told you that the greatest threat this nation faces is white supremacy, well, you know what an antonym is?
	Closest thing to the idea of white supremacy would be white privilege, as far as being taught as a philosophy.
	We have an antonym.
	We have antonyms in here for all of the narratives that have been out there being pushed.
	Do you think he has a word of the day calendar?
	I mean, antonym isn't like that.
	That's not deep, but do you think he understands what an antonym is?
	He's definitely not understanding it properly in this case.
	Is this this week's chain gang?
	It could very well be.
	Can we, on the site, can I put a dictionary?
	Stephen's understanding of words?
	Oh, that's kind of fun.
	Yeah, that's kind of cool.
	Yeah, I mean we are, we are picking it apart pretty hard.
	Like this is, you know, let's dig in.
	Like let's make a meal out of this fucking stupid bullshit.
	The antonym of white supremacy is white privilege.
	I love this.
	What are you talking about, Stephen?
	What's the opposite of supremacy?
	I don't know, actually.
	What would that be?
	What's the opposite of privilege?
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	I don't know, I don't know opposite words very well, but I never thought the opposite The antonym for supreme is inferior.
	Inferiority?
	Yeah.
	White inferiority is the opposite of white supremacy.
	What's the opposite of privilege?
	Disadvantaged?
	Poor?
	Restriction?
	He needs a new calendar.
	We have the manifestos for Christchurch, within 24 hours.
	Buffalo, within 24 hours.
	Jacksonville, 24 hours.
	Now all of them expressed, and Christchurch might have been trolling, white supremacist themes.
	You see the difference there?
	Within 24 hours we had that information.
	Christchurch going after Muslims, a protected group.
	The other two going after the black community, which is definitely a narrative that they want to go after.
	And those were definitely hate crimes if you are going to have a hate crime.
	Absolutely.
	These guys were white supremacists going after them.
	But the one time, not just the one time, the latest time that people are being killed for being white.
	But it's for our safety.
	Right.
	It's for our own safety because somebody might copy cash.
	Shut the fuck up.
	Sorry, this is so dishonest.
	It's very upsetting.
	Yeah, I almost forgot that I was like, okay, what are we listening for here?
	And it's like, oh, it's just all wrong.
	Not only does he minimize the Christchurch stuff, saying it could just be trolling.
	Which doesn't matter if it's trolling.
	There's plenty, like you look at Sam Hyde stuff.
	I mean, I don't know if I would go as far to say that Sam Hyde is a Nazi, but I would say that he has racist beliefs.
	The million dollar extreme.
	I think that he's at least like a Adjacent to that.
	Most certain.
	And also, like, isn't he... We're not talking about him.
	We don't need to get into that.
	Yeah, Dennis doesn't know who he is.
	Sucks.
	He does suck.
	But the Christchurch Manifesto, that was released on 8chan.
	And the Buffalo Manifesto was self-published.
	It was a Google Doc.
	And these things spread on the internet.
	They were not publicly released by officials.
	Are you sure?
	I'm a thousand percent sure.
	Are you pretty left-leaning though?
	That doesn't matter!
	Who paid you to say this?
	Who's funding this podcast?
	George Soros.
	I love Soros.
	I cannot tell a lie.
	My man, GS, what up?
	Can I get a couple of them bucks, though, actually?
	Yeah, dude, I'm gonna do some protesting later, so can I get an advance on my protest payment?
	I'll get you some money.
	I need some new signs, I need some new bricks.
	So why do we try not to release the motivations of mass shooters?
	We don't want people to look at that and be like, okay, well, here's how I can do it better.
	Well, what is a manifesto?
	Why do people write manifestos?
	The exact reason that people write manifestos, that's something that this guy Peter Newman,
	a founding director of the London-based International Center for the Study of Radicalization, said,
	they want to create the basis for something that will inspire others, the message they
	aim to send targets, both their sympathizers and declared enemies.
	So it can strike fear in people and it can inspire people.
	Kaczynski again.
	Sure.
	You know, I'm really like not feeling are these new pizza rolls.
	We got to go back to the original recipe on these.
	Later stage Ted Kaczynski manifesto.
	Because I'm getting these things in commissary and boy have they changed over the last 25
	years.
	And honestly, they're too hot or they're frigid.
	And I don't know how they made- Or they're cold in the middle.
	Can we figure this out?
	What are we spending this money on?
	So the media doesn't publish manifestos because of this reason and it's not universal.
	And he kind of goes into this expressing that like the media has published.
	Published manifestos and they have it's not it's not like it's a united front and even Steven himself I think I've heard him say I didn't have the time to pull up examples normally with mass shootings He leaves out the name and the image of the mass shooter because he doesn't want to further boost there He knows that this does nothing more than when I hear him talk about it like this It sounds almost like it's so easy to keep things under wraps.
	Like, comparing something getting out and spreading, and comparing it to something not spreading, you have to remember that it's easier for things to accidentally just spread out like that.
	Yeah.
	You know, like things, they catch fire, they will go, right?
	If something doesn't come out, it's either A, being covered up, or B, not pertinent.
	To have a huge cover-up like this, like if everyone... Do you think everyone at the police department universally agrees white supremacy is a problem?
	I would hope so, but I think that it's probably varying degrees.
	There's plenty of people who feel just like Steven does, right?
	And it's not like... Well, one probably talked to him.
	Sure, like to keep this universally just covered up, it takes so much cooperation.
	I think they really underestimate how much cooperation it takes to do like full-scale cover-ups.
	Of course.
	What do you think that they're trying to cover up?
	The true intention?
	I don't think they're trying to cover up jack shit, but Steven thinks they're trying to uncover or trying to cover up the true intention of this person, that this person was brainwashed to hate white people.
	Back to back to manifestos though.
	I want to I want to point something out I think it would be really easy for us to look at the rise of incel violence following the release of Elliot Rogers YouTube manifesto.
	Is that the guy who did that like rant in the car?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's him.
	Yeah So, now he's seen as a martyr that's inspired more incel and misogynistic attacks than anyone else.
	The ADL actually documented five incidents of incel violence and plots after his shooting that same year, including that guy who drove his car, I think it was in Toronto, into a crowd of women.
	I mean, more than that, people who have threatened mass violence towards women.
	Yeah, since that Supreme Gentleman video that you were talking about, Dennis, it was publicized in part by the New York Times.
	There's been more than a hundred people who have been killed or injured in the name of incel ideology.
	I want to make this really clear.
	I'm not in any way equating being an incel to being trans.
	I think that mental illness happens across all communities and that we need to do what we can to avoid putting violent options into their minds.
	Christian mass shooters, Islamic mass shooters, male mass shooters, female mass shooters, black, white, Asian, Latino, gay, straight.
	It's a problem.
	And if someone is struggling enough with their mental health, it's possible that actions of individuals they identify with could inspire them to commit violence.
	So that's why I think that manifestos need to be not made public.
	When I listen to this, I'm curious about Stephen's stance on if publishing manifestos is good or bad.
	Is he implying that, you know, they should be published?
	And that's why he's doing it?
	I think he sees this as an opportunity, and that's it.
	I don't think he cares.
	Of course I do, yes.
	I'm being rhetorical.
	He's just saying it's an opportunity to grow his viewer base.
	He doesn't care.
	For sure.
	But if Steven was, you know, off the record, talking to me, just hanging out, having coffee, does he believe this?
	I don't think that he believes manifestos are a good thing.
	I think that he just is using this particular thing to just grow his fucking base.
	He's being selfish about it.
	That is almost certainly what it has to be.
	And like what you were saying earlier, like with this one in particular, the reason why it seems that it didn't get out is because it's not pertinent.
	It doesn't really affect anything.
	Uh, like the reason why, as he's claiming that like white supremacist manifestos get put out there or whatever, and I don't really, maybe we can look at this in a second, but just like, I can't really, like, think of one where we've been able to, like, read the entirety of it that, like, the police put out, like, after.
	I think the only time that the, like, media or, like, I don't know anyone talking about this would be, like, Hey, like, here's another one where this person said that, like, his beliefs of white supremacy seems to have played a part in why they pulled the trigger on these people.
	And so, like, that, I think, is why you would point this out in any kind of sense like this.
	Why aren't they putting out this trans person's manifesto and why, you know?
	Trying to equate it, but I think it's To a bigger point that there's not this like large uprising of trans people pulling triggers on other people like it's just Has it happened?
	Sure, but it's happened also way more in every other community, and I guess if you wanted to like Get into the granular percentages and we could look at the actual data here I would imagine that it would be along lines with like every other Demographic.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, like if it's just consistent like there's not that many trans people period What one thing I was really curious about when I think about this manifesto being released is What does Steven want to do with the information?
	That's a great point.
	Does he want to bring about change at all?
	Does he just want people to be like, you should be mad too?
	Is that what he's really doing?
	If I want to see the manifesto, you have to let me see it.
	Write that question down and I want you to come back to that because we've got a journey to go on today.
	When you have churches, when you have everything in culture, when you have schools teaching that white people are in a position of power that they did not earn, meaning if you're successful, if you have a small business, if you got an education, if you have a mom and dad, if you have these privileges in life and you're white and you didn't earn it, that's not just saying they have something that they didn't earn.
	It's saying they have something they didn't earn and it's affecting and keeping you down and you need to take it from them.
	That's the only natural conclusion is that you have to level the playing field.
	White privilege is something in need of correction.
	Right.
	How do you correct it?
	Let me ask you this.
	Historically, and this would not be wrong, how does an actually oppressed class correct something?
	Usually through revolution, which usually involves violent means.
	If you believe that you live in a country in the United States that is the byproduct of white privilege, that you have been colonized, Then it needs to be corrected.
	And that is, I know we're sort of foreshadowing here, that is the reason for the violent correction here.
	Now I understand this person is mentally ill.
	I'm not saying because they're transgender.
	This person is clearly mentally ill because they were being treated for mental illness.
	But they were directly inspired by what we have discussed on this show many times as being taught in school and as a matter of dogma.
	So their distorted thinking from their mental illness is what caused this.
	I don't know.
	How do you correct white privilege?
	Well, so here's what I think is so interesting about this, is that their stance about privilege was, somebody has privilege.
	Yeah.
	My only response is to take it?
	Yeah.
	That's not how privilege works.
	You have to take the privilege.
	To get your own privilege?
	To create the antonym of it.
	Yeah, to create the antonym of the privilege, you have to be supreme.
	But no, it's like saying, hey, you've got like a hundred bucks in your bank account, and the only way that I can get a hundred is if I take your hundred.
	Like, it's not fucking like that.
	And I think it really says a lot about them when they think about, when they identify that if somebody has an ability, a privilege, right, of any kind, that the only way for you to get that privilege is to take it from them.
	That's not how that works.
	When women got the right to vote, did men lose the right to vote?
	Absolutely not.
	No, they did not.
	That's it.
	It's that simple.
	It says a lot about them that that's what they believe.
	Ready for another clip?
	Fucking A, man.
	man let's do it.
	So just jumping in real quick, this is going to be the end of part one of this conversation
	because we went really long dove in deeper than expected on this pretty awful episode
	of Louder with Crowder but we'll be back soon with part two.
	Yeah.
	Thanks for listening.
	Thank you guys.
	I'll go to jail for you.
	They don't know about that yet.
	Reach out to us on Twitter, but yeah, until next time, for Dennis and Jared, we'll see you later.
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