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Nov. 7, 2023 - Louder Than Crowder

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EPISODE 9: UNEVEN STEVEN (OCTOBER 30TH, 2023)

Mostly ignoring Steven's desperation to offend during his Spooktacular episode, we focus on the day before. Where the boys discuss the awful situation that occurred at the Dagestan Airport, really dangerous islamic generalizations, Gavin Newsom going to China, and definitely not Mike Johnson. This shit is a bummer. Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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	This is an AudioWool original.
	You do have big biceps.
	Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast.
	Louder with Crowder.
	My name's Byron.
	I'm joined tonight by Jared.
	I've got something sticking in my eye.
	Oh, OK.
	Singing a little bit of pop-punk music.
	From the 90s.
	And our regular pop-punk prince here, Dennis is also a pop-punk prince.
	Well, you're the one always quoting... It's the original PPP.
	What was that?
	COVID loan program?
	PPP?
	Yeah, PPP.
	What was it?
	Yeah, my PPP loans.
	Yeah, what the fuck did it stand for?
	I don't know.
	Dennis is here.
	Okay, I'm here.
	I turned Dennis down because he just refuses to talk in a consistent volume.
	It's a pop-up print.
	Typical.
	Alright, tonight we're gonna be going over the October 30th episode of Louder with Crowder.
	Pre-Halloween.
	Yeah, the Monday before the 31st and you said the 31st being their Halloween spooktacular.
	Do you think he's gonna be nice for Halloween?
	He most certainly was not.
	And I actually, I watched the episode and I thought it would be fun to maybe get started something kind of fun guessing what you think he was for Halloween.
	Oh gosh.
	Did he do blackface?
	No.
	Okay.
	He was a different ethnicity though.
	Of course he fucking was.
	Jared, did you watch that?
	I did.
	I did see it.
	What did he dress as?
	It's really, yeah, complicated.
	Did he dress up as the Israeli-Gazan conflict?
	Kinda.
	So he was admonished.
	It's a regular thing.
	Yeah.
	Do you have the admonishment?
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	Stephen was admonished because he wanted to go as a failed Hamas paraglider based on a clip that they aired earlier of a paraglider flying into power lines and then catching on fire.
	the screen but okay Stephen was admonished because he wanted to go as a
	failed Hamas paraglider based on a clip that they aired earlier of a paraglider
	flying into power lines and then catching on fire they showed the clip
	again they thought it was Hamas but it was actually a South Korean so he just
	put a South Korean flag on his costume and for some reason they aired this
	violent clip of a South Korean man getting electrocuted Huh.
	Happy Halloween!
	Yeah.
	Facesofdeath.com backslash Steven Crowder.
	He's a rotten ear.
	Gerald Morgan, you'll never guess.
	He's a Jordan Gecko from the Wall Street film franchise, but also his torso was like a plastic bag Blackrock add-on.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I missed the intro of all of that.
	Pretty confused as to what he was doing.
	Pretty esoteric, yeah.
	Yeah, creative.
	Deep cut.
	Boring, though.
	Did you dress up for Halloween?
	Me?
	Yeah.
	No, I didn't.
	How about you, Jared?
	Sort of.
	We went to a Halloween party, my partner and I, and I kept telling everyone she was wearing an Adidas tracksuit.
	That she was Tony Soprano, and I was wearing an Arby's meat sweatsuit, and I kept saying that I am the gaba ghoul.
	See, that's clever.
	That is good.
	Yeah, I didn't do anything.
	No, I went to the gym, and then I went to bed.
	I went on a jog, and people are so lazy, and I did the same thing, just putting their candy out on the corners of the street.
	I was grabbing Reese's Cups as I was running home.
	Oh, yeah.
	It was a lot of fun.
	Did you take the whole bowl?
	How many bowls did you collect?
	Someone took my bowl!
	Of course they did.
	It was a nice bowl.
	It wasn't even like a Halloween style.
	It's broken in your own bush.
	Of course, it's gotta be 30-40 feet away.
	I'm surprised they didn't throw it through your window.
	So I got a name of a new character that I didn't know before.
	High Tech Matt.
	High Tech Matt?
	What's his name?
	He's behind one of the boards doing something.
	Over here?
	Crowder Town.
	Crowder Town?
	He dressed up as Dylan Mulvaney in a Bud Light cup.
	Okay.
	Pretty cool.
	Yakuza dressed up as, this is kind of clever.
	Is that another person?
	Yeah, this is an Asian gentleman that they call Yakuza.
	Okay.
	Is he Japanese?
	I'm not sure.
	Is he just Asian in general?
	Well, this is confusing because he dressed up as Juan Wick.
	Juan Wick?
	Which is a Mexican version of John Wick, complete with a sombrero and a garden rake.
	Okay.
	I don't know, man.
	I don't know these costumes.
	What is this?
	Yeah, and then the tool man on the overlays was Thomas the East Palestine Tank Engine.
	Like a tankie?
	No, like remember the disaster, the chemical spill in East Palestine?
	Yeah, Ohio.
	Do you guys ever think about the fact that our entire life doesn't revolve around this stuff?
	Yeah, when I leave this, I don't usually walk around wearing t-shirts that say what I believe.
	Fight like hell.
	Fight like hell!
	Hey guys, I'm a strange animal.
	So goofy.
	Sitting third chair, Tom Cruise.
	Brian Callen went as Barbenheimer.
	Okay.
	So it's just Ken with a fedora.
	That sounds fine.
	I thought it was just Ken.
	No.
	Like maybe Ken wears a hat or something in the movie?
	No, Ken's got that beautiful blonde hair.
	He wears a cowboy hat I suppose.
	Either way, you guys, we were totally fine skipping that episode.
	It was sloppy as hell.
	Not that good.
	Sure, okay.
	Did, uh, Dianne Feinstein show up though?
	That's right.
	I forgot about the skeleton of Dianne Feinstein.
	Great.
	In a coffin.
	Very cool.
	They got a real thing.
	Did they buy a coffin just for this?
	Was it a nice coffin or was it cheap?
	It looked like a prop coffin.
	Real skeleton though.
	I don't know how they found a human skeleton.
	Diane, that's where they bought it.
	From who?
	Her daughter.
	The same guy who sold Hunter's laptop.
	She's in control.
	I guess that makes sense.
	Alright, jumping back to the day before October 30th.
	So we have a lot to get to today and I still have a little bit of a cold that's moved into my ears so everything sounds like...
	I'm cold and moved into your ears.
	That's how I feel about today's stories.
	Sorry you're still sick, Steve, and I feel similarly about your coverage today.
	He's been sick for three weeks now, I feel like.
	Today the gang is taking bets on if California Governor Gavin Newsom will run for president as hot Biden in the next election because he's apparently courting China.
	The Jew hunting that took place at the Dagestan Airport.
	More like the Dagestang.
	That really... Dagestang?
	What did I write here?
	Wrote a little joke.
	Steven continues pitching that the entire Islamic faith is incompatible with Western values because it's a death cult.
	Super fun discussion.
	Great.
	Looking forward to this.
	Yeah, and then they say that they're gonna answer the important question, who the hell is the new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, but they don't ever get to it.
	They run out of time.
	Who?
	Mike Johnson!
	Very funny.
	That's a deep cut.
	Pick up the phone.
	Yes.
	Be on the lookout.
	You know, I wonder how that happened.
	They're usually so tight.
	Hey, hold on a second!
	Look!
	It's Riff Raff on CNN!
	Oh my god.
	What is that?
	Time is fleeting.
	Do we have sound?
	Can you now bring up sound?
	Russia's ambassador to Israel.
	That's like a guy who started a comb-over and gave up midway through.
	He's like, I wanted a comb-over, but I also want to be an emo kid.
	Gerald, how are you?
	I'm sorry, it's very distracting when I have CNN and a guy looks that bizarre.
	Maybe keep the TV off.
	Honest question though, I pulled this clip almost exclusively because I was confused and I wanted to see if Jared knew what was going on.
	What the hell are they talking about, Jared?
	Oh, what he calls him, Riff Raff?
	It doesn't look like Riff Raff.
	Not our, not our, um, purple Porsche, purple people eater, uh, Riff Raff.
	We're talking Riff Raff from, uh, the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
	Oh, okay.
	That's funny.
	Oh, not talking about Riff Raff, like the rapper dude?
	Yeah, that clears things up kinda.
	You know, it's not a good joke.
	But also, I thought he was going to say something to Gerald about Gerald's haircut.
	Like, what was this guy thinking?
	Can you give some insight, Gerald?
	He does kind of have the same haircut, just not as grown out.
	Sure.
	Yeah, that's for sure.
	Interesting.
	Kind of a heavy show today.
	So good thing we have a comedian sitting third chair.
	Really funny fella with some bleeding edge material.
	Okay.
	It's an awkward name.
	It's like Ruth's Chris Steakhouse.
	Yeah.
	Hey, make up your mind.
	I know.
	I know.
	Not to be confused with Ruth's tits strip club.
	Comedy's a lot like a steak, huh?
	Juicy.
	What the fuck?
	That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
	Hey, make up your mind, Ruth.
	Can you describe comedy to me?
	Juicy.
	What the fuck does that mean?
	I don't know.
	The boys in the studio, though, really need to start having his back.
	Why is he even there?
	Gerald LaFoe is always laughing so hard at Steven.
	Is that the Ahoy guy?
	We're never ever gonna talk about the Ahoy guy.
	Okay.
	He wasn't on the show when we started the show.
	We might go- Is he coming back?
	No!
	What?
	He's got his own show!
	With Corner Black Garrett!
	Why don't we do a review of that?
	Do you want to do one of his episodes?
	Strange- On the Patreon.
	I think it's called Strange World.
	Strange Animals 2.
	Strange Animals 2, yeah.
	I think it actually literally is called- Stranger Animal.
	Until today, I didn't put it together.
	His show on The Blaze is called... It's all strange.
	Pardon me, it's called Normal World.
	Normal World is what it's called?
	It's so funny.
	Oh, wow, cool.
	Anyways, I derailed us.
	What were we talking about?
	You're totally fine.
	I was talking about how Gerald always laughs at Steven and that they should probably turn off the red light and laugh for our boy Brian.
	I mean, he had really good jokes.
	He described his own comedy as juicy.
	Isn't that funny?
	Yeah, he did say that after doing a Ruth's Chris Steakhouse joke.
	Because everyone who's ever said that name thinks that exact same thought, and it's not that funny of a thought.
	No, it's not.
	But you know what, though?
	We're having a lot of fun today.
	I'm having so much fun.
	Is it just because the steak?
	Is it juicy?
	Is it rare?
	It's not juicy.
	It's well done.
	Looking at the clips here, it's time to make folks scared of minorities.
	Great, that's my favorite.
	Here is a black kid.
	Sorry, I want to be respectful.
	This is a criminal of color.
	A future lifetime incarcerated low-life doctor of color.
	Yes.
	Lawyer.
	Future Pratt & Whitney engineer of color.
	Yeah.
	I don't even want to hear what the fuck they had to say.
	Jesus Christ.
	Well, we've got quite a bit to talk about.
	I thought we were done.
	No.
	I thought the show was over.
	Actually, it could be.
	We could call it if you'd like.
	It just feels like we heard him say just the n-word over and over and over again.
	It made me feel like gross and alone or something.
	I don't know.
	I'm crossing my arms and like... Just shaking my head.
	But what exactly happened?
	Do you think Steven's gonna be alone forever?
	That's a great question.
	This video got posted to Nextdoor trying to identify two teens who were sucker-punching people in the park, which is pretty fucked up.
	People like Steven and Gerald though, this is like their fucking worst fear, man.
	It really is.
	To get knockout gamed, this is like... Knockout gamed?
	You're unfamiliar with the knockout game.
	Yeah.
	I mean, people were recording themselves, uh... Like, just... Sucker punching people in the back of the head.
	Trying to knock them out.
	Yeah, but it was most certainly not as widely... Of course.
	...happening.
	And that's kind of what was happening.
	It's, it's fucked up.
	You can't, you can't... Of course, of course.
	...say anything other than that.
	This 19 year old Alfred Lewis was identified as the culprit of this particular situation and he was interviewed by a local news station and he said that he regretted doing it saying quote, you know, I just made a mistake and everybody makes mistakes.
	Also.
	I know, like, from the video, all you see is, like, the bad part about it.
	Uh-huh.
	What people didn't see was that I shook his hand after I gave the man a hug.
	How can we miss that?
	That is something we cannot verify.
	Hey, just do another guy!
	Another man, another video getting punched and grabbed later left on good terms according to Lewis
	I really didn't expect for it to just go so left, you know, so honestly again
	I can't defend this kids actions whatsoever Yeah.
	But these kinds of pranks going viral, the increase of... Can you explain to me what happened in the video?
	Some people were walking on trails.
	One friend was filming as this kid just ran up and punched him in the back of the head.
	Okay.
	He throws a pretty, like, mean haymaker on this guy.
	Knocks his earbud out.
	I don't know if you saw that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The guy goes down to, like, pick it up, like, right away.
	Which is, like, yeah, I get it.
	That thing costs, like, you know, $180.
	I want that bang back.
	I want money in my ear.
	Like, it seems right now the increase of all attention is good attention mindset is a problem.
	It is, yeah.
	Earlier this year there was a British TikToker of color.
	They brought it up a couple months ago.
	He was walking into strangers' houses, their doors were unlocked, and he would just kind of scare the people inside, him and some friends.
	Kind of like that film Funny Games, but without actually committing any violence, just intimidating them.
	He, uh, recorded a TikTok of himself stealing an elderly woman's dog and running away.
	I think he got into a conductor's chair of a railway train.
	I was helping an orchestra.
	No, that would be far more entertaining.
	And I think that kind of TikTok content could go viral.
	Yeah, real goofy.
	I like that.
	This guy got arrested a few times, was disrespectful to Piers Morgan, which was kind of funny on his program, Piers Morgan Uncensored.
	Who are we talking about now?
	Busy was his name, another TikToker.
	Last week though, Busy was formally charged with four breaches of criminal behavior and he's going to be sentenced on the 21st.
	His name is Mizzy, not Busy.
	Like Mizzie though, Alfred Lewis was also arrested and is being held on $10,000 bond for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon and his assault charge.
	It looks like as well as punching that man in the back of the head, he and his friend also held a man at gunpoint and filmed it for TikTok.
	Haha, trying to read you cried Hey, you begged for your life.
	You owe me a coke.
	No, they tried to get freestyle That's worth way more to me personally.
	He tried to get this guy's iPhone 14 the guy wouldn't give it up, which is really So then that thing costs like $1,100 I want that pretty expensive my pocket so he handed the gun to his friend and then punched the guy a bunch and okay and It was really fucked up.
	Sounds like criminal mischief and assault and whatnot.
	Hey man, it's cool.
	Look, there's a camera right there.
	What's the involvement with race in this?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Why the fuck are we talking about this?
	It's all because these people are black.
	The only reason Steve is highlighting this is just because it was some black kids who caused trouble.
	He thinks that black culture is inherently violent.
	So you made a mistake with the punch, son, but what about the attempted, poorly attempted suplex?
	I mean, I forgot you was perfect!
	I forgot, you never made a mistake.
	We was cool.
	He was cool.
	Why aren't you cool?
	Because you punched a random man for no reason and tried to suplex him into the concrete?
	Ah, it's a race thing.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Why did the guy shout, oh, it's a race thing?
	Well, they're not done yet.
	Gerald, of course, has to hop in here and the boys have a bit of a stereotype off.
	If he had landed the blow from behind and actually knocked the guy out face first into the pavement, I'm sorry.
	You know what I did?
	Yeah, well, that would be the part that the media would show you.
	Yeah, right.
	What they didn't show you was afterwards, I sent the mother Tiff's treats.
	See, I feel like you're... I share his berries up in that bitch, but they don't show you that.
	Right.
	Yeah, but why is Stephen's impression of a 40-year-old black man who's actually, you know...
	Oh, I forgot.
	Big scary black man.
	It's a good car, I tell you that!
	It's like, hey, hold on, Steve.
	No, yours is an early 20th century, like, slave.
	Early 19th century slave.
	I'm not going to get into this anymore.
	You ever want to play the knockout game, sir?
	What he says right after that, he says, I reject that.
	And then he covers his face and he looks so fucking embarrassed on the video.
	And he says, I don't want to get into that.
	Brian did that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Pretty rough stuff there.
	So the whole, the whole joke here is that we're going to do Av, right?
	We're going to talk in Av here.
	And it got me thinking, can you remember a time when Steven has criticized a white person, but did like a wacky white guy voice?
	I can't think of one.
	Like, I've only listened to like 10 episodes of this shit so far, and I honestly don't think it's ever come up.
	I think it's only when he's criticizing a minority, which is, I think, the only people that he actually criticizes is minorities on this show.
	Yes, of course.
	And that could be something that we pay attention to.
	They are the only ones that get these voices.
	But this is also, you mentioned this I think last week, this is the joke every single time.
	It's just the voice.
	Just the voice is the joke.
	Yeah, there's nothing... they're not making any witty takes on this at all?
	No, it's just they're gonna speak in Av and they're gonna yell at each other.
	The one thing though that I did kind of was like paying attention to was this Callan being embarrassed bit, right?
	And like, really though, Stephen's like pulling him in.
	Like Callan, who pushes back on Stephen's bad attempt at a joke here, Crowder grabs him by the metaphorical shirt and just pulls him to hell with him.
	And so it got me thinking that, like, do you guys think that there might be some, like, skull and bones shit going down in Chowderville?
	You're saying that... Chowderville?
	That Gerald Morgan, Steven Crowder, high-tech Mike, Matt... Toolman... Toolman are all jerking off on a glass coffin with Brian Gallen inside?
	And they're telling their secrets.
	Yeah.
	Callan's got his dick out in his hand.
	He's in the glass coffin and he's doing this 19th century slave voice that Crowder says he's got.
	I think that Brian is in over his head and I will be very curious to see how long he makes on the show.
	I think wasn't it on episode one we placed bets on how long he would be Actually hanging.
	Yeah, I might have to go back to that episode.
	I also do want to point out we did an episode titled The Tale of Three Accents, which is turning out to be like an every week thing.
	Yeah, this is no longer surprise, not even a little.
	No, it's just like what he's got like the the dartboard in the writer's room and he just is like, all right, so I hit him with the voice.
	Pick three.
	Yeah.
	The true thing that they should be being critical of is social media and the attention economy.
	That's the real problem here.
	100% that's a problem.
	It's just people hungry for attention.
	You know it's funny because on this type of show they oftentimes claim that the left is always race baiting people and like by paying attention to race it becomes a problem.
	Generally, what I see happen on the left is not that, right?
	Obviously, like, there can be too much nuance on the left sometimes.
	Sure.
	But this is just straight up, hey, a black kid attacked some people, so... We gotta run with this.
	We gotta do some accents.
	Let's pretend that we're black people again real quick.
	Like, what the fuck are they doing?
	I don't know.
	I got a clip.
	I don't have a note for what it is.
	Let's go.
	Let's go for it.
	The vast majority of black people are like, this kid is a dumbass.
	But there are enough that it's alarming going, oh man, it's just differences in culture.
	Well, then that's a bad culture.
	I love the victim response.
	The media didn't show you that we was cool after.
	Yeah, maybe he acted like he was cool because he was terrified from the violent assault.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	I would love to hear Steven's clips he has of black people saying that this is just a culture thing.
	Yeah, I didn't see any of that.
	Did he have those?
	Did he have clips of people saying that attacking people is a part of black culture?
	It's not in the resources in their show notes.
	No, it's not interesting.
	I'd love to see those clips that he mentioned because I can't think of a single person who would see a video like, I haven't even seen it yet, but I can't think of a single person who would see a video like has been described to me that would then go Oh yeah, that's reasonable.
	They're just celebrating their culture.
	Did he say the clips of that or like in the comments section?
	He said it sounded like there were responses.
	Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
	Maybe it was comments, but like even funnier is like if Steven went through the comments section just to like race check every single one that commented on it.
	Of course.
	That just seems like something that maybe he would spend his time doing.
	I mean, he doesn't have any dates to go on.
	Yeah, no one's really having fun with this man.
	Stephen also says something in here about... I'm reading the comment section now.
	It's all really gross, racist comments.
	Stunt?
	You're actually calling assault a stunt?
	Someone calls this criminal an animal.
	Hate crime, double standards are disgusting.
	Yeah, I don't know what comment section he's looking at.
	He didn't make a mistake or a boo-boo.
	He made a felony.
	I think everyone agrees that this man attacked somebody and should be appropriately... I hope that they are brought to justice appropriately, and I hope that they have a change of heart in their heart of hearts.
	Sounds like he may have, I guess, right?
	Not really.
	Is that he said that people are only focusing on the punch and that not that he, I don't know, helped him find his Apple EarPods?
	And cut!
	I got the TikTok.
	Sorry about that, man.
	Yeah, I got this.
	Oh shoot, there's a guy with an iPhone I have to steal.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Do you think there's another account that's like... Knockout game in context.
	Do you have the clip of Steven talking about his like white European power fantasy?
	No, what?
	If this happened to me type of shit, he'd reverse the suplex or some shit.
	His whole thing is that he would beat the kid up is essentially what he said.
	I don't know.
	Also that we watched this on the other show the other week, but the mall pranks and the guy gets shot in the mall.
	Yeah, that was on a different stream.
	It always makes me nervous when this stuff is happening because it's like people like Steven who are like though he is not wearing his little gun holster anymore that you know that he is like still has a gun and if someone were to like run up on him at all he seems like the type of person that would like have no problem pulling the trigger especially you know on a person of color or a criminal of color as he likes to uh I think that you're right.
	But I've encountered one situation where someone was running up on someone who had a gun.
	The guy with the gun was terrified.
	And he never pulled the gun out.
	He just was like, I don't want to shoot you!
	I don't want to shoot you!
	It was such a weird experience to see firsthand.
	Yeah, for me personally, it would just seem too traumatic to point a gun at somebody.
	And I just wouldn't want to do that, right?
	Either way guys, Pence dropped out of the race.
	Oh yeah, good, good.
	Pence is gone.
	Yeah, you know, he wasn't really sure if he could qualify for the next debate and they do this a lot It's kind of like an in memoriam.
	They do a semi sonic parody called time to close.
	It's not good I don't even need to pull the clip and we don't even really need to talk about this I hate that I'm sad when any candidate who believes the election wasn't rigged leaves and I don't want to root for Chris Christie But it seems like that's how low the bar is at this point.
	The entire situation is just a fucking nightmare, man I don't think you have to root for any of them.
	They're all a bunch of ass, ass buckets.
	Yeah, but I mean, what do we got?
	We got Joe freaking Biden, dude.
	Haven't you seen that guy talk?
	And he's doing these hip hop shows and like, he's cool.
	He's with it.
	We have Biden.
	Do we?
	I'm curious to know what your thoughts are, guys.
	Do you think that Biden is going to be the candidate?
	Do you think he's going to be the candidate for the Democratic Party for 2024?
	Or do you think that it will be someone else?
	Do you think it will be Gavin Newsom?
	A lot of people think that.
	A lot of people do.
	Gerald certainly does.
	Okay, so he has the second best odds of winning the Democratic nomination.
	There are a bunch of headlines out there speculating that he might run.
	He was pressed on the question last month and he kind of gave an answer, but then if you understand what he's doing traveling abroad in China, it's one of those, how often have we heard, I'm not running, I'm not running, I'm not running until they run.
	So this is from about a month ago or within the last month.
	I think we need to move past this notion that he's not going to run.
	President Biden is going to run, and we're looking forward to getting him re-elected.
	I think there's been so much wallowing in the last few months and hand-wringing in this respect, but we're gearing up for the campaign.
	We're looking forward to it.
	You hear these calls privately.
	What do you tell these donors who are wallowing in this?
	Time to move on.
	Let's go.
	There's so many pauses.
	The only good thing about that interview, I think that was Chuck Todd's last or very close to last interview before he signed off.
	It was replaced.
	And he probably got a show on HBO Max.
	Yeah, probably.
	Dude fucking got him.
	What was with the fake Gerald laugh?
	That was like one of the most aggressive fake Gerald laughs in a while.
	I don't know.
	Do they really think that Biden's not going to run again?
	I don't know, they're not really wrong about the odds, at least according to RealClearPolitics betting odds data.
	It's looking like 60%, 60.7, that Biden will run, 14%, Newsom, 7.5, I believe Michelle Obama would be running, then 5.7, Kamala Harris.
	7.5 believe Michelle Obama would be running then okay 5.7 Kamala Harris Harambe
	Kennedy Leaky brain the Wi-Fi. Yeah
	Hillary Clinton is at 2.1 percent Gretchen Whitmer and then Buttigieg so that extremely leftist
	Yeah, left left is Biden is going to run Elizabeth Warren I like Newsom.
	I really don't want Biden to run, but it does appear that... I mean, we're less than a year out, like, we can't do anything about that now.
	Well, of course.
	But, I mean, at the end of the day, every single time that somebody tries to run against an incumbent, that party loses.
	So far.
	Yeah.
	So, it's just... I mean, you're just gonna shake up the base.
	And, honestly, like, it's not... Gavin could run next time, and... Sure.
	And nobody votes for Joe Biden because they fucking love Joe Biden.
	Nobody does.
	It sucks that we have to say that out loud?
	It doesn't suck.
	It bums me out.
	I would like to vote for someone I would enjoy.
	It's like if you have two rooms in your house and you have to go inside.
	You don't need to convince me.
	I'm just saying, why should we have to vote for the guy we don't really like?
	Because that's how politics work.
	Yeah, we could be voting for Kimberly Guilford.
	I liked Obama.
	And I liked Joe Biden last time.
	Totally.
	I don't like him this time.
	The system that we're in, we have to pick a thing.
	But you just told me I don't get to vote for someone I like.
	I have.
	Right now you don't.
	Multiple times.
	Right now it seems like I unfortunately cannot.
	Yeah, and that's fine, but that's also just a realistic stance.
	It sucks, and I don't like it, but I'm sure that there's plenty of people who are going to vote for Trump that don't like Trump.
	Either way, you guys seem to think that he is running.
	He's running.
	Gavin Newsom's not going to run.
	Yeah, Newsom, Gavin Newsom.
	The only reason he wouldn't run, I would say, is if there was a problem.
	He's got that liberal California to watch over.
	That's true.
	The gang, though, has some evidence behind their guess that he might be.
	Look, I'm going to visit China!
	I think it's more than that.
	Some of his behavior.
	He went to the RNC.
	He went to the Republican debate.
	He tried to debate, what was it, Vivek?
	No, DeSantis, I think.
	DeSantis.
	He took some shots at Vivek.
	He's publicly attacked governors like Abbott.
	Which, by the way, is in poor taste because he's a wheelchair guy.
	Generally speaking, non-wheelchair guys shouldn't attack wheelchair guys.
	Don't punch down.
	He's gone after DeSantis as well, and he's been trying to do some political sort of staging, like he vetoed the trans kid custody bill that we talked about.
	He's been doing this media blitz.
	So I definitely think that he's probably... He's in the mix.
	I think if nothing else, he's probably planning on a cabinet position.
	Yeah.
	Has anyone ever gone after Greg Abbott because of his wheelchair, or are they just being really ableist?
	I don't know, I've said some pretty mean things about him.
	You didn't say mean things about him.
	Did you say mean things about his wheelchair?
	Probably.
	It's not really about his wheelchair, it's more that they want to dump him out of his wheelchair.
	Yeah, the sabotage of his wheelchair.
	Of course, of course.
	But I mean, I hate that they mention that because it's like, Greg Abbott is objectively a piece of shit.
	A really bad guy.
	A really bad person.
	He's putting the saw blades on the buoys in the Rio Grande.
	The razor wire, yeah.
	Yeah, what the fuck?
	People come swim up to them, they get caught on it.
	He's jigsawing.
	Yeah, die in the water out there.
	That's a terrible thing.
	And so like, I don't know.
	I mean like, it's not about his wheelchair.
	No.
	It's about dumping him into the water from his wheelchair.
	From his wheelchair.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You swim to the booty.
	Just like if you were to trip me.
	Yeah, yeah, sure.
	Yeah, you tied my shoelaces together.
	Can you believe a tree fell on that guy?
	Is that how he lost his legs?
	I had no idea.
	Yeah, yeah, he did.
	And then he made it so that you couldn't sue the company that would have caused an accident like that.
	So now, I mean, he made millions of dollars off of it.
	And also his dick probably doesn't work anymore.
	Wait, what?
	I have to assume that his dick doesn't work anymore.
	And that's why he's so angry.
	Is that ableist?
	I don't know.
	Yes.
	It's about his wheelchair.
	They don't really know why Newsom visited China.
	Newsom arrived to China on Monday, visiting several major cities and provinces.
	Among the stops, a tour of an electric bus depot in Shenzhen, and a visit to the Great Wall of China.
	Yeah, that's a photo op.
	He inspected the bus line.
	Newsom's office says the discussion focused on climate change and economic ties between China and California.
	Isn't it fun that they try to talk over the actual content?
	Yeah, yada yada yada.
	It's like when the Matt Walsh What Is A Woman would like fade through the actual answers to the questions he wanted.
	Yeah, like the thoughtful answers from people who like study and are professors.
	We need a simple answer, man!
	Why'd you go to China?
	Buses?
	Lame!
	Well, it seems interesting.
	It could be because California is the fifth largest economy in the world after the United States, China, Japan, and Germany.
	Yeah, it's a fucking huge economy in California.
	Massive.
	3.6 trillion gross state product as of 2022.
	And it sounds like he went over there to see how a large country would handle an electric bus system.
	Yeah, maybe they might have more advanced electric public transit.
	Maybe he's just a public transit enthusiast.
	He might be.
	And he just wants to ride in the bus.
	And that's fine.
	That's his right.
	That's cool.
	Take me around, bus driver.
	I rented an electric car for the first time.
	How's that feel?
	Great to drive.
	It was weird when you get out.
	Oh yeah, you were just in Atlanta.
	You would just put it in park and then just leave.
	Walk away.
	You wouldn't turn it off or anything.
	I mean, I drove a hybrid Prius last time I was in California.
	It was wonderful.
	I liked it.
	I liked that car a lot.
	It was really nice.
	The charging infrastructure needed work.
	That's all I would say.
	Of course.
	And that's probably why he was there.
	Honestly, there's no real reason beyond.
	I went to China to talk to the leadership about it.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	You did that?
	I'm running against Joe Biden tomorrow.
	Wow, that's crazy, man.
	In a race.
	Foot race.
	That's cool.
	I'll vote for you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	But they're using unique alternative energy, according to Steven.
	And I might cut this clip.
	This seems, um, in bad taste.
	Hey, we were talking with Gavin Newsom.
	Maybe we shouldn't burn body of Uyghur for energy.
	No!
	No more burning body!
	Go back to coal.
	Maybe step.
	And maybe clean coal.
	Less coal.
	Less coal.
	And, well, we still burn body.
	Recycle!
	Recycle!
	Burn body!
	Is that a minority that he's criticizing?
	It's fair to criticize China over their treatment of the Uyghur people, but the way that they're doing it is really gross.
	I don't think I need to say that, right?
	Yes, it's very gross.
	So they discuss how we need China, and specifically California and Hollywood, to make money on films like The Meg 2 or The Fast and Furious franchise.
	That's the quickest line I usually draw.
	When I think about China's role in America, it's usually about The Meg 2.
	The Meg 2.
	Jason Statham.
	Yeah, of course.
	Absolutely.
	I like The Fast and Furious franchise.
	I think it's good.
	I don't.
	It was good, and then it got bad, but it keeps getting better, man.
	I just remember the scene where two people are on like going opposite directions at 70 miles an hour and then they leap at each other's bodies and just like hug and don't explode each other.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	Their ribcages stay intact.
	I think they put that part on the ride at Universal.
	What?
	No way!
	It's like a ride where you just swing.
	It's like one of those big swings where you swing at another person.
	That's really cool.
	Luba goes to space.
	They fly a car into space.
	Really?
	Yeah, they do.
	Jeff Bezos gets him up there or what?
	Elon Musk.
	They're in the Roadster that went to Mars.
	That's cool.
	He got him in the movies finally.
	But Stephen says he's not entirely anti-trade with China, saying that he can't source his mug club mugs in the United States.
	They don't have the specific mug he likes.
	But he does add on that they etch them here.
	Okay, so it sounds like he's a little bit embarrassed that his stuff's not made in the USA.
	Yeah, he's getting ahead of it.
	It's okay, Steven.
	It is okay.
	He's critical of factories like Apple and Nike for manufacturing there, and I mean, we all have our beef with that as well.
	Yeah.
	And I would like more things to be manufactured in The United States, but I also understand that we are a global economy.
	Certain things are necessary.
	It's just how things are.
	Well, and I think at the end of the day we have to, we all want to make strides to fix the problems in supply chains.
	Yes.
	Right?
	And pay people money that they deserve.
	Of course.
	Yep.
	What's interesting about the thing with Stephen being upset about the mugs, it's just the hypocritical side of things.
	Yeah.
	You know that he could find a mug that works in the U.S.
	Of course he could.
	He's not doing it because of cost.
	You guys ready for a big rant?
	I am.
	If it's the one that I think it is, oh buddy.
	When you're talking about China, I understand the decoupling comments, like we have to use them for some things, I get it.
	Of course.
	But at the same time, you have to understand that these guys will never play by any international rules that do not benefit them.
	They do not care what you think.
	They know their position right now, and the more that you give them strength, the more they're gonna do that.
	The more you take that away from them, the more they're like, well hold on, let's talk about this.
	Yes.
	And that's not what we've been doing with Biden or anybody else from the Democrats.
	Yeah, well, our entire lives, my entire life growing up, everyone who wanted to fancy themselves an economist would say, well, you know, the future is China.
	It's all... Exactly.
	Except for, really, three years pre-COVID.
	Yeah.
	When Donald Trump was president.
	People going, oh, maybe they are a paper tiger.
	Wait a second, maybe we don't have to kowtow to them.
	It's not I have no problem with another country doing well, honestly.
	I have a problem with a communist nation stealing from the United States while subjugating their own people.
	We need to be honest about that.
	You can't bitch about violations of human rights, for example, in Gaza on behalf of Israel, and say that our relationship with China is really important.
	Make a mug factory, Steven.
	Just make a mug factory.
	That's what you gotta do.
	Don't use an iPhone to harass your interns or your underpaid employees after hours.
	He's really intensely, like, trying to, like, explain why he is not a bad person in this scenario because of his beliefs.
	He's like, my beliefs are here and I'm doing this because I'm being forced to.
	At the same time, though, he's truly not doing anything.
	But what was his weird thing where he was comparing China to the Democrats?
	I missed that.
	I didn't understand that.
	What he's referring to is the, I believe, Trump putting the 10% tariff on China and that actually kind of fucked the Republicans more than anything else it seems like.
	Studies have found that the tariffs adversely affected Republican candidates in elections.
	A study by the University of Warwick's economists found that the tariffs negatively impacted the electorate in districts that swung to Trump's relative to Mitt Romney's 2012 performance.
	That as a result of retaliatory tariffs, Republican candidates fared worse between 1.4 and 2.7 percentage points in countries in the top decile of the exposure distribution implied by the Chinese, Canadian, and Mexican retaliation.
	So, here's what I will say about trade.
	I don't know a lot about foreign trade policies.
	I'll trade you a holographic Pikachu.
	For?
	Mewtwo from the movie premiere?
	That's a fucking deal right there.
	Thank you!
	And we're talking Pogs.
	But no, I don't know much about trade policy, but I think that at the end of the day, the U.S.
	needs to have more manufacturing here if we want to buy here.
	Yeah.
	Many, many, many, many, many people would be willing to pay a premium to buy American goods if the goods are being made in America.
	Mm-hmm.
	There's tons of stuff that is not made in America that you cannot buy.
	Do you think I could buy an American-made camera?
	No.
	Are there any camera companies based in the United States?
	No.
	Not to my knowledge.
	There's Japan, Germany.
	Japan has tons of them.
	If I wanted to buy here in the US, I just can't.
	It's kind of like when Trump's reason why Mexico was going to pay for the wall was because of a trade deficit.
	Yeah.
	That's like me going to Walmart and being like, I shop here a lot, you guys owe me money now.
	Yeah.
	Like what the fuck does that mean?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	It's buybacks.
	Yeah.
	Let me get those.
	I give you my phone number at the end of the transaction, you give me money back on my phone number.
	I spend that online.
	Yep.
	Right?
	This is the modern kickback.
	Yeah, that's usually actually, you'd be surprised.
	I have this shop down the road where I just, we just pass a $10 bill back and forth.
	Oh fun.
	Just for hours.
	That's my favorite game.
	It's so much fun.
	It's work.
	Yeah, but Dennis, I think you're right though.
	I mean like there's there's no way really around that, right?
	And that's like what all of that amounted to was that like all of these people looked at the tariffs that were happening and then they weren't actually able to get the things that they needed like cameras and You know, all these Chinese goods.
	Or for actual businesses using China as a manufacturer, it made things fucking really hard.
	It said that it made everything drop like 53 or 57 percent, one of the two.
	I didn't write that part down.
	But as far as like what China was pushing over to the United States was down 53 percent.
	I mean, it affected everybody.
	So I don't really know what the fuck he's talking about here when he's saying that it was like Trump showed him what's up and it's like, I don't know, kind of just affected everyone poorly.
	And then in turn, people associated that with Republican candidates and they did worse in comparison to how they had done previously.
	So I don't really know what the fuck he's saying here.
	Would it help if he did it in a really offensive Chinese accent?
	It's one way to understand what's going on.
	That might help you understand.
	Well, at the end of the day, generally, the global economy is far more complex than you or me or Stephen can understand.
	And I don't understand it well enough to be able to speak on it, but I know that Stephen definitely doesn't know enough about it.
	No.
	And that's fine.
	That's fine.
	The boys get a little weird.
	More?
	Yeah.
	Hong Kong is paying people to have children.
	They're literally saying we'll give you $2,500 for every kid you have and you'll get an apartment faster.
	Which is not a bad deal.
	Not!
	Which just tells me how unattractive women must be in Hong Kong.
	We'll pay you to bang!
	What?
	We'll pay you to bang!
	You bang!
	Go bang, bang, bang!
	I give you money!
	Bring receipt!
	I bang her?
	Give me?
	No, no, no!
	American girl!
	I bang!
	She bangs.
	Swedish!
	I'll take the crane!
	I guess it's not a problem when they're birthing conservatives, like in Hungary.
	Dennis, you remember?
	Yeah, like Hungary, they pay substantial amounts of money if you love children.
	Yeah, we watched a Tucker Carlson original, Hungry vs Soros, maybe like a year and a half ago.
	We had a good viewing party, Dennis and I. Yeah, we did.
	We used to get Fox Nation free trials and watch Tucker Carlson originals.
	That's so fun.
	Man, we're like normal cool guys who just do like... We definitely don't make this our whole life, right?
	Oh shit.
	Yeah, the Prime Minister, Viktor Orban, declared that if you have four or more babies and are hungry, you will never have to pay income tax for life.
	Yeah, that's wild.
	That's so sick.
	Are they criticizing China for doing that?
	They're the wrong kind of people.
	They don't support it.
	Yeah, no, I get that.
	Aren't they different shades of skin tone typically?
	Yeah, but I also I think it's very interesting that Stephen jumps straight to the fact that it must be because women are unattractive.
	Not because people are like more focused on the things that they want to do outside of having children.
	Yeah, my wife and I, we aren't having a kid.
	I have a feeling that you guys have a reason.
	No, no.
	I found out my wife is too ugly to have a kid.
	It's crazy.
	It's crazy.
	You know, your body has a way of taking care of all that.
	Oh, Jesus Christ.
	I can't remember.
	Who the fuck said that?
	It was someone in Congress.
	It was not pleasant.
	No.
	It's a bad thing to say.
	But speaking of bad things, Gerald thinks the situation is a little bit worse.
	It's a little worse than you thought.
	$8,000 cash equivalent gift for each of the first two children in Hong Kong.
	That's what parents get.
	Not $2,500. $8,000.
	$1,000.
	Per child?
	American, yeah.
	Per child.
	Up to $16,000?
	Up to $2,000, yeah.
	So maybe once you get to $3,000 they don't really care.
	Yeah, in California that pays for your first two months.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Think about that.
	There are probably people paying that much for a high-end prostitute in Nevada somewhere.
	They're going to pay you to have sex.
	With your own wife!
	He's been really on this, uh, what did he say at the top of this?
	Ruth Tits Strip Club.
	Now he's on the Whorehouse of Nevada or whatever the fuck he's trying to say.
	Where's he been lately?
	He's been in Vegas.
	He's got some stuff on his mind.
	Yeah.
	Tax-less transactions.
	Sure.
	How does he so quickly understand the price of a prostitute?
	In Vegas?
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	Brian says a normal thing that kind of exposes Gerald for being, well, you know.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry, but black and Chinese makes for very good-looking people.
	They do make for very good-looking people.
	Really?
	Very good-looking people.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay.
	It's a beautiful combo.
	No $6,000.
	You guys obviously have like- No $6,000 credit needed.
	None?
	No.
	Say no more!
	Just doing guy stuff, talking about racial makeup of, you know, women.
	Blazions.
	Yeah.
	Whoa.
	I mean.
	Yeah, fetishize the mixing of races.
	Boys, when a black and an Asian get together and they start mixing it up, boys.
	And Gerald's like, I don't think so.
	I've never heard of such a thing.
	Never.
	Yeah, on that note, let's shift into the Islamophobia portion in tonight's program.
	Good, I was hoping we'd get to something a little more casual.
	Sorry, boys.
	You can't judge the progression of Islam by minorities in the United States or in Canada, for example, where they are a minority of the citizenship.
	You kind of have to judge Islam as far as its performance historically when the nation Is a majority Islamist and they gain control of the government.
	Maybe you can name to me any place on earth that has a Muslim run government that does not violate human and civil rights to a degree that would be abhorrent here in the United States.
	Well, what exactly happened to get us here?
	Like, where did he just all of a sudden, did he just pivot to this, or what?
	Well, because of this.
	An angry mob of Muslims in Dagestan, Russia, they formed, I guess you would call it, I guess a lynch mob?
	Chain gang?
	That's exactly right, yeah.
	Looking for, and this isn't just a protest, they were actually seeking out an alleged flight of Jews from Israel to try and, well, in their own words, kill them.
	So pretty sure Steve doesn't know what a chain gang is, but either way, what he said was fairly accurate.
	From BBC, an angry crowd stormed the airport in much hot challah, seeking much what is it?
	I have no idea.
	You're just saying no.
	I'm just saying.
	I appreciate that.
	Seeking people arriving from a flight from Tel Aviv.
	Some of the crowd ran onto the runway and surrounded the aircraft.
	Russian's aviation agency said security forces later brought the situation under control.
	Flights from Israel have been temporarily redirected to other cities.
	60 alleged mob participants have been arrested, Russian news agencies say, citing the local interior ministry and, you know, video clips showed hundreds of people storming the airport terminals and Some were waving Palestinian flags.
	One passenger who said he was on the flight from Tel Aviv told local media that he was stopped by the crowd.
	He was let go after riders told him, quote, we are not touching non-Jews today.
	Local media reported that some demonstrators were stopping cars outside the airport demanding to see documents and 20 people were injured, including two police officers.
	Some had serious injuries, two in critical condition.
	It's really a terrible situation.
	Yeah.
	That the guys use to say that all Muslims are murderous.
	So I wanna make sure I understand, does he know that Russia is not a Muslim-run government?
	Oh, interesting that he would say that.
	He's saying that you have to judge Islam based on only Muslim-run governments?
	Is that his logic?
	I just wanna make sure I understand his logic here.
	Apparently there's a hotel that was also stormed by folks looking for Jews.
	By the way, if you're a decent person in Dagestan and you have Jews in your hotel and angry Muslims, like, don't tell them.
	Yeah, you don't know me.
	Is that funny?
	We have Jews here!
	Don't tell them.
	By the way, that applies also in Dearborn, if you're in Lebanon.
	Like, if you're a decent person, even if you're a Muslim, but you don't want to see Jews killed, if they come like, you will tell me what every last Jew is!
	Don't!
	No.
	Well, it was a George Soros-owned hotel, though.
	So, yeah.
	It's like, Jews on every floor!
	There's just a hologram.
	Bing!
	Bing They didn't find any.
	Well, they found a single one, but that's because all the other rooms were drafty.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	What the fuck are they doing?
	I don't know, man.
	Apparently Dearborn, Michigan Muslims are the same as the Dagestani ones.
	That's what they're saying.
	I don't know much about what's going on, but all I hear is him being like anti-semitic and then defending the Jews.
	And Islamophobia.
	And, yeah.
	What is that?
	You can't beat my wife, that's my job!
	What the fuck is this thing he's doing?
	I guess that's kind of what he's doing.
	I mean, he brings up Dearborn, Michigan several times.
	For people who don't know, it's got a majority Islamic population.
	He talks about how it's more violent and has issues with divorce.
	I just hate that when I hear all these stories, all he's doing is he's using these stories as a mechanism to demonstrate his own fucking shitty beliefs and get his base riled up.
	He doesn't give a fuck about any of these people he's talking about.
	He doesn't even understand... I mean, I don't either, if I'm being honest.
	Of course.
	I don't fully... I'm not a religious guy.
	I don't like religions for the most part.
	We're also like two white dudes who live in a hugely white population place.
	We are not experienced with much of the world.
	That said, I don't claim to understand the nuances of Islamic religions throughout history and how things have changed in those communities.
	For him to only judge that religion on like historical basis, like they talk about how slow progress has been in the Islamic world.
	You know, like women being able to go out without a hijab or go to school or drive and how sometimes that goes in the other direction, like in Afghanistan when they were told that they can no longer go to school after the Taliban took back control.
	They don't really care too much about LGBTQ rights, but they do use that as a weapon.
	But of course, Stephen's faith is correct and never was anything close to Islam.
	What's really weird and ironic is that typically throughout history it was the Christians that killed the Jews and they would go to Muslim countries because the Muslims would give them safe quarter because they were quote-unquote people of the book.
	So that was typical and now with this Hamas stuff well in recent history it's the exact opposite.
	Yeah, but those usually coincided with wars for land because they also killed more Christians than anyone else, too.
	People don't realize that when you're talking about the Inquisition.
	The same thing is if you look at Islam, though, they just, at a certain point, they want to kill all of them.
	You either convert, you're subjugated, or everybody gets killed.
	That is the rule.
	That is the law of Islam.
	That is what they call dimitude.
	It's almost like he just wants to ignore the fact that there's this crazy fucking conflict going on in the world.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	He's acting like... Maybe he's sick of talking about it.
	Well, he's acting like all of a sudden, just all of a sudden for some reason, like sleeper agents, all the Muslim folks woke up and they're like, we need to attack Jewish people.
	Yeah.
	Like that's what he acts like happened.
	Like there's not this like really crazy nuance about all of this that's really complicated.
	There's no nuance here.
	Everything is the same.
	There's no nuance.
	Whatever happened yesterday is the same thing that happened today, and if you disagree with me, I will kill you all.
	Whoa.
	Yeah, that's how that works.
	I don't know.
	We don't really need to talk too much about faith, but I looked back in the Old Testament.
	Deuteronomy says a lot of things.
	Nasty little book.
	If you cheat on your wife or your wife cheats on you, you get killed.
	What does it say happens if you make your wife wear rubber gloves to give dog medication?
	Interesting, we'll have to read up on that.
	I need specifics.
	All of these things that they're saying are part of Sharia law.
	Like we're also part of the Christian belief.
	If you believe the faith, You are supposed to like have everything taken away from you as a Christian and you could potentially be put to death according to the book.
	It's all the same shit.
	It's all the same shit.
	I think that fighting over religion is a huge fucking problem in general.
	I think Stephen's a progressive Christian.
	I think he is.
	I just don't think he would never admit that.
	No, of course not.
	I don't want to say this, but I'm a progressive.
	But that's like the reality of it.
	Yeah, no, it definitely is.
	A tanky Christian.
	Yeah.
	I just I hate this entire conversation.
	It stinks.
	I hate it all because Stephen's the least qualified person to talk about it.
	I agree.
	Second only to us.
	Yeah.
	But you know, there is a bright spot here.
	Is it the glare on Brian's forehead?
	No, that's fun, though.
	It's a good thing that Jews don't have to be worried about white supremacy anymore.
	Yeah, I feel like it's safe to say that Jews are not worried about white supremacy right now.
	Some are.
	Yeah, maybe, but it seems like the larger threat.
	Yeah, some still try and keep that narrative alive.
	Find me any rally.
	The closest you can find is Charlottesville, and it was a handful of losers with tiki torches and one guy with a Dodge Challenger.
	This is across the entire Islamic world.
	One guy with a Dodge Challenger.
	Handful of guys, but one specific guy with a Dodge Challenger.
	Only got a little bit of murder here.
	And I mean, some would say that this was kind of like the event that may have led to the actions of January 6th.
	One of the first social unrest success stories in the... Is this like the Harambe being killed on the conservative side?
	Interesting.
	I guess it kind of was.
	That's really great.
	Two times we got this man in the... Double Harambe, baby.
	Dicks out, right?
	Dude, mine has been out for the last 45 minutes.
	Very cool.
	Fuck, guys.
	I don't know.
	Jeffrey Toobin, you guys, right now, you don't even know.
	Don't Toob me, man!
	How do you like that?
	How do you like that 2020 reference?
	That's good.
	It actually warmed my heart a bit.
	Here's more from our progressive conservative.
	And if Muslims have sex and they're convicted outside of marriage, and by the way, I think it's a good thing to wait until marriage.
	I think it's a good thing to not be a lying whore.
	That being said, I don't believe that, like Qatar, you should be sentenced to flogging or the death penalty.
	Well, hold on.
	Why the difference?
	What makes it go from flogging to, well, you're now getting the death penalty?
	Depends on how many times you orgasm.
	Like I said, not too much if you actually are reading your Bible, Stephen.
	It's not very different.
	I'm confused, though.
	Is he for or against waiting until marriage?
	He's for it?
	He is for it.
	There's this wonderful article he wrote for Fox News about his wedding.
	I remember that.
	Remember that?
	I do remember that.
	Put that in the show notes of this episode.
	Does he feel the same now?
	What happens on second marriages in the Bible?
	What does that say?
	He said, I might never get married, he said.
	Remember?
	Yeah, but does that mean he'll never have sex again?
	He's not allowed to anymore.
	That's interesting.
	Did he announce his celibacies?
	Well, in two different phrases he announced he's gonna be celibate.
	I think that we knew that he was celibate based on his recent actions.
	Yeah, big rejection episode.
	It's weird, it's like he's not even volunteering to be.
	Oh, remember, remember, remember he hurt his neck in a car wreck?
	Yeah.
	Because it's definitely not the other thing.
	Yeah, there's different ways.
	It's just that he's been saying this quite a bit.
	Wow, interesting.
	Time to rant about how the left shouldn't be supporting Palestine.
	Let's roll that.
	Saudi Arabia, women weren't allowed to drive.
	Maybe they changed that relatively recently.
	Deaths for Christians across the Islamic world.
	Apostasy is subject to dimitude, meaning that if you're not Muslim, you have to pay a poll tax.
	You have a curfew.
	There are certain areas where you're not allowed to visit.
	Depending on the Islamic country, you're not allowed to own land that's waterfront.
	There are different property taxes.
	Of course, gays being killed through death penalty, that's a matter of policy.
	Women, of course, in many countries not being allowed to vote, and then they'll tell you that they have a lot of female representatives, or women not allowed to drive, women not allowed to... Gosh, there are certain jobs that they're just not allowed to have.
	Things that don't seem like that big of a deal when you compare it to the murder and burning alive of gays.
	These are standard anywhere in the Islamic world, and here you're bitching if there aren't enough scholarships for women to get into STEM programs that they didn't qualify for anyway?
	And these are the same people out there saying, we need affirmative action in the United States.
	Go try and explain affirmative action anywhere in the Islamic world.
	Anywhere in the Islamic world that there are too many...
	Arabic or whatever it is Arabic Muslims at this school and we need more Buddhists or we need more white Christians We need more Africans.
	He's just spiraling at this point.
	Like yeah, he's just going on a fucking diatribe man It's funny to me because he's implying that if you're in a certain situation That you are never allowed to want that situation to be different Can't be better unless other people are also at your standard of living Which is weird because he's like an American exceptionalist.
	Like, why would he tell us that we should lower our expectations based on the beliefs and actions of other countries?
	That seems like opposite of what he- Yeah, that's like being like, um, he wants to abolish child labor laws here because there's still child slavery in other countries.
	Yes.
	Like, what the fuck are you talking about, man?
	We live in the United States, and we live in a certain condition, and we're allowed to express our feelings about our conditions.
	I wear a rain jacket when it rains here.
	We're allowed to feel different things about different things.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Like, I can want certain things for the United States while also wanting things to be better in other countries for people.
	Yeah, I can be aspirational for things to improve.
	Of course, and if anything, when we see things like the United States, we can use that as a way to be like, hey listen, a country can do well if these things exist for others, right?
	So we should use that as a good example for some things.
	Inside the United States, Muslims don't have any problem, they don't find any conflict between Sharia law and the Constitution.
	they think that those things can coexist.
	And it represents kind of like a, you know, a shifting and adjustments in beliefs
	in a positive direction.
	The same way that like, I know I've kind of harped on
	Stephen's Old Testament misinterpretation.
	I think the only way to support a religion adapting to a place where it's tolerant would be to,
	you know, praise the communities that are embracing change.
	Like Dearborn, they're not doing the same things that he's equating Islamic folks in the Middle East are doing.
	Like, they're just Americans.
	Just as it is in like Christianity, I believe Islam has something that's Similarly put, your religion is also based on what the government wants for you as people, because that's, I mean, like, why else does it exist, religion, in the first place, if not to, like, have you obeying the law, right?
	Or obeying the law of the land.
	And, like, this has always been the case that these institutions have always said, hey, like, whatever gets decided amongst you democratically, is the Word of God.
	That's God telling you this, right?
	And so it's like, things may change over time, and that's okay, because I'm giving you expressed permission to change with them.
	It just sounds like Stephen's issue is not... I don't think his issue is with, like, Islam.
	It's just he doesn't like fundamentalist religion.
	Which is interesting.
	I think that he has a fear kind of like, you know, the the homophobic fear where it's like if you let people be gay then everyone will be gay.
	Yeah, if we let Muslims be Muslims in the United States, they'll take over.
	Everyone will be Muslim.
	Well, I mean, that's a fear that a lot of people do have.
	They're like, white people are gonna be the minority!
	Okay, but if your beliefs aren't gonna stand up to the scrutiny or going to be less appealing than another religion, what is your religion?
	Yeah, it's kind of like if you never let your girl go out because you're afraid she's gonna cheat on you.
	Exactly, with a hotter guy.
	Yeah, with a hotter guy.
	Maybe just be a better dude.
	Yeah, take care of yourself.
	But, you know, Stephen, speaking of Muslims in the United States, he believes that they just have to behave.
	They don't want to.
	They don't have a choice.
	Not that there's a small minority of Muslims in the United States and so, oh, you know, they're mostly peaceful.
	They don't have a choice.
	They have to be peaceful-loving Muslims because we live in a country where people have rights.
	I get that they're being eroded, but not to the degree that we're discussing here in the Islamic world.
	And then when you look even at small areas in Europe that become majority Muslim.
	Yeah, he's got a prop with that and he's kind of really in his feels about divorce again this episode.
	So this, all that this says to me is that Steven has demons that he's fighting.
	He's like, I have feelings that society tells me I can't share and I thank society for that.
	That's what he's saying.
	He's got feelings about divorce too.
	Dearborn, the amount of child abductions that take place in Dearborn is, you know why?
	Because women, a lot of them don't get married by the state.
	They get married in a mosque.
	Do you know what a man used to say in Islam?
	To get divorces, to lick, to lick, to lick, boom, you're gone.
	We had a woman, I believe from Silver Heights, Michigan, who was on the show.
	She had to be anonymous because she was hiding from her husband who tried to kidnap their children.
	We had this in Montreal all the time.
	You would look at the missing children's reports.
	It wouldn't fit on the milk carton, so they would put it on the side of soda machines.
	But explain that.
	That's because you, as the father of your children, you have full custody.
	You take them.
	You just take them.
	You get to do whatever you want.
	Divorce is literally say, to lick, to lick, three times, boom, done.
	That's also what allows them the loophole to have a temporary marriage and get a whore on the side.
	Whore aside, I think that that's kind of what Steven wants, right?
	He wants to lick, to lick, and take the kids.
	I think he does.
	I think what I found most amusing about this clip is how upset he got about the soda machine.
	He's like, can you believe it?
	We got a fucking soda machine missing person now.
	Like that's what really, that was the really set him off.
	He just wants to get a sugar high.
	He's like, I don't want to see missing kids on my soda machine.
	What the fuck is this?
	This is bullshit.
	All we do is say, I do and I do, right?
	Yeah, I do, I do, you're married.
	Yeah, what the fuck is he talking about?
	I have no idea.
	It's, uh, he's jealous that divorce, that I'll go get divorced easier than he can.
	He's talking about his 36 minute self-written vows about being a trad wife.
	Of course.
	I need pellets for my Traeger.
	And you will refill them without gloves on.
	Is there any statistic support for his claim that Dearborn has more abducted children than other places?
	I did some cursory searching and that I was not able to find any real conclusive statistics about how Dearborn, Michigan has, you know, More than normal abductions, and I don't think there should be any.
	Did you search on Google?
	Because that's owned by the left.
	I should have ducked a goat.
	You're right.
	You should have ducked a goat.
	You should have ducked a goat.
	Because they're not, they don't look.
	No, I have no idea about the child trafficking statistics of Dearborn, and I have a feeling also that Steven is not much either.
	No.
	But the show notes should have all of it, right?
	It's all in the notes.
	It's all in the notes.
	I should, before I confirm that it isn't, I should look.
	Oh yeah, if it's there it would be great.
	I would love that.
	I really hate that Stephen is just being so xenophobic.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I expect it.
	No, because of course this is the story about the Dagestan Airport.
	Yeah, yeah, for sure.
	They're just like these little kids, which I also thought was funny.
	Oh, there were kids saying like, yeah, there was a news report from Dagestan.
	Like, what are you here for?
	And they're like, we're here to get a juice, mister!
	Yeah, and they're like, how are you gonna do it?
	And he's like, what's it going on, a knife?
	But we're doing British accent instead of... I bet they're rocks and I missed it!
	I don't know why we're choosing to do that.
	Do you remember when we went to a conservative rap concert and they brought kids up on stage and asked them how many genders there were?
	Yeah, that was sad.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It sounds like we should just keep kids out of fucking politics.
	I think that's probably a good idea.
	I've only heard of two because I am seven years old.
	I'm seven years old and that's all I know.
	You told me there's two.
	I'm gonna rap about it.
	And honestly, I don't know much about girls.
	Yeah, honestly, I only know really my sister.
	What's a fallopian tube?
	Alright, so Stephen reiterates and Brian tries to be fair.
	Give me one exception.
	One exception of a majority Muslim nation that has not committed gross violations of basic human rights.
	By the way, in a selective manner for non-Muslims that's lasted more than 10 years.
	What are the rules?
	Go ahead!
	I don't know.
	I think just in the interest of being fair before you get criticized, Jordan is pretty moderate, because they are essentially, I think, Sufi Muslims.
	Well.
	Pretty moderate right now.
	Yeah.
	Today.
	Nailed it.
	Give him time.
	Trust me.
	I know these people.
	Well, he's a conservative, so he does not understand that, you know, things tend to trend in directions.
	Oh, God.
	That's so fucking funny.
	Was Brian, right?
	Brian Cowen who did that?
	Brian, great fucking job calling Steven out.
	Do you think he's gonna last?
	I really think he's got about three months left.
	He's gonna be gone for sure.
	We're gonna have him on the show.
	Of course we'll have Brian Callan on the show.
	He's welcome anytime, honestly.
	Anytime.
	Brian, please call us.
	Come on the show.
	Yeah.
	I think he'll address, like, the, uh, you know, all the reasons why he got kicked off of TV and all that with us.
	Well, I guess, yeah, he was actually an accused rapist and sexual assault.
	Okay, well, we don't really want him on there.
	I don't know much about Brian, I should have researched.
	But then it's also like, we get a big guest.
	We can get the Island Boys.
	Folks, go ahead and put that in the comments down below.
	Let us know what you think.
	Bing!
	Yes.
	Most importantly though, Dennis.
	Yep.
	Jared.
	I spoke for him.
	Did you know that Muslims can lie?
	What?
	No.
	There are a lot of Muslims who, right, there's taqiyyah, which means they're, and this is not, they're allowed to lie.
	They're allowed to lie, it's a part of their religion.
	Now, some people will argue and say, well you're only allowed to lie, you're only allowed to lie, and this is in certain sects of Islam, and not all of them, it's not even all of, you know, Shia or Sunni Islam, just to be clear, and sometimes there's some overlap.
	You're only allowed to lie if it's your life at stake.
	But then there are a lot of Muslims, probably to the tally of at least tens of millions, maybe not 198 million who support violence against civilians, we have that poll from last week, but at least the tens of millions who also believe will not only lie for you to not just lose your life, but you know, essential living.
	Amenities.
	Then you're also allowed to lie if it will convert people to Islam.
	So let me ask you, would lying about the terrorist activity that would turn people off because it's a negative PR campaign?
	It's not a good look.
	Would lying about that qualify as bringing people to Islam, as tricking them into Islam?
	Damn, guys, I wish I could lie.
	For some reason, I actually can't.
	Like, I tried once and I was in the hospital for three weeks.
	You're like James Carey in that film Liar Liar.
	Yeah, Liar Liar, exactly.
	And honestly, he found love and reunited with his son, so maybe this is all for the best.
	It is all for the best.
	That's the show, guys.
	Stephen Wong.
	Baseball stuff, remember?
	Remember?
	No, I don't.
	The liar's assistant.
	I remember when he like throws himself on the table in the courtroom.
	Sure.
	Tries to beat himself up and then I submit that he did it.
	Yeah.
	Fletcher Reed.
	Anyways.
	What he's describing is there's like specific instances where lying would be appropriate, as there is also for general people.
	Like, for example, if somebody held a gun to my head and said, hey listen man, do you like pizza?
	If you don't, I won't kill you.
	No, this is a bad example.
	If he said, hey man, listen up, do you like broccoli?
	If you do, I'll let you live.
	I would say, yes, I do like broccoli.
	Of course.
	And that's a lie, because I don't like broccoli.
	Well, God does not like us to lie, by the way.
	Proverbs 16 through 19, for there are six things the Lord hates.
	Ooh, six of them.
	No, seven.
	Seven of them.
	Liars.
	Tramps.
	Scammers.
	Cautious.
	Lying.
	Murdering.
	Plotting evil.
	Eagerness to do wrong.
	A false witness.
	Sowing discord among brothers.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	And it says right there, blacks.
	Yeah.
	And now that's, now we get it.
	Why Steven is on one.
	Damn it.
	We're the idiots.
	Chinese manufacturing is one of those?
	Yeah, that's weird.
	That's a weird interpretation.
	And this is rightwingbible.com.
	You guys!
	Come on, man.
	This is stupid.
	This is a stupid, archaic interpretation of something.
	Who the fuck cares about lying?
	I mean, you try not to lie.
	Lying is bad.
	Yes, but if somebody was threatening your life, lying is fine.
	Absolutely.
	If it's gonna save your life, I would lie about anything.
	If that was in the, I mean, that should be in the Bible.
	Does someone want to get a hold of?
	Yeah, don't lose your life if you can lie.
	So all that he's doing here is just taking the exact same thing that we do to him, where we like, we take his religion.
	What are you doing?
	And we show him that if you take the fundamentals of any religion, it can be twisted to make somebody sound bad.
	That's it.
	You know, at the end of the day, you can make somebody sound bad by using their texts, be it the ones on your phone, out of context.
	So if my phone leaks, I want to be clear that those texts are all taken out of context.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	They go on to talk about Sharia law.
	But that's just fear-mongering, like to assume that everyone's gonna—they pull out statistics about which Middle Eastern countries believe that Sharia law should be enforced as the law of the land and by the book as it is the word of God directly.
	Afghanistan is different than the United States.
	It's different than all Western countries that have people who practice Islam.
	Yep.
	I truly think the more that we are the melting pot, I mean the United States formed on religious freedom.
	I wish more people were atheists.
	I want to advocate for that, but at the same time like I don't...
	I think that the best thing we could do would be to be supportive of people who believe different things, as long as they don't negatively affect other people.
	That's it.
	Yeah, if I want to say that the freaking the Q Queen is the actual leader of Canada, and I believe that, Ramon Adidolo.
	You don't know her?
	Dennis is looking at me like, this guy's a dumbass.
	He doesn't know the true queen of Canada, Ramon Adidolo?
	You're a dipshit.
	I'm allowed to believe that.
	I mean, you hit the nail on the head that we have to respect others in the United States and allow freedom of religion.
	We have to, we have to, we have to.
	As long as it doesn't negatively affect other people.
	Exactly.
	And if religion of some kind is truly, absolutely incompatible with our Western way of life, then it will eventually just work its way out.
	We're not going to just be like, well, we'll allow that, right?
	We have our laws of the land will supersede, like, you know, if, for example, if supposedly some religion says that you're allowed to lie, that doesn't mean that you can lie in court, right?
	That doesn't mean that, right?
	And if there were ever... Not in the United States.
	The religions that can adequately adapt to our culture and survive here and be progressive, then that's what's going to happen.
	I think that he's afraid because it seems like the Islamic faith is more conservative than his conservative Christian beliefs, and that's a threat to him.
	Yeah, you're not wrong.
	Yeah, it definitely is more conservative.
	But how is that a problem for him?
	He loves being conservative.
	Isn't that interesting?
	He doesn't.
	Isn't that interesting?
	He doesn't.
	He wants to lie.
	He wants to lie.
	His entire identity is... He wants to smoke cigars.
	He wants to look into it.
	He wants to, and he doesn't even want to smoke the cigar.
	He wants to inhale the cigar.
	Yes.
	Which is like, it's rough, man.
	It's so rough.
	And that he's like doing this even after his like, you know, his little run in with the hospitals and stuff.
	I mean, it's interesting, like, if you look at people who have recently converted to Islam, like Andrew Tate.
	I don't know if it's authentic or, you know, more than whatever.
	I'm not gonna say his faith is.
	A new marketing tactic, but streamers like Sneeko also, like people who find the current ultra conservative right wing is not right enough.
	This is a new threat for Steven and it's uncomfortable.
	And I can't wait.
	It's wild though.
	Cause it's like with somebody like Sneeko, like their identity, it doesn't really mesh with, like conservatives don't really get down with like what he does either.
	Well, is he like a reformed fuckboy?
	Is that his kind of market?
	Kind of, but he's like, um, he's never talked to anyone who's told him that he's incorrect.
	And so it's just kind of somebody who lives inside their own mind and makes it up as they go, I guess.
	So if like, if he got some sort of like guidance that like, Hey, that's maybe like a conservative thing.
	He'd be like, well, I guess that's what I am now.
	Yeah.
	Also, we talk about getting cocked all the time.
	Sure.
	And we're very public about our sex lives and things like this, right?
	Most conservatives that I know aren't really, like, loud about that type of stuff.
	But him, on the other hand, he's very loud about it.
	But because somebody has, I think, said, hey, you have, like, these conservative leanings, then he's like, great, I'm a conservative then.
	And I don't think it really matters that much to him.
	And with a lot of with a lot of these people, because obviously Sneeko, as we're on this, Andrew Tate, they're like big influencers, but I don't know if they're going to move the needle in the way of religion.
	Oh, unlikely.
	But also that like all of these religions in the United States, especially like especially Western religions, are climbing in participation especially like through our generation anyway so I don't know Stephen is a minority in that way.
	I truly think most of it most of these people it's all vanity.
	Yeah I mean like they're they're all just making it up as they go like even Stephen like there's I think his is like more rooted in something that has been... Is even Stephen the episode name?
	His ideas seem to be rooted in something that was probably passed down from his folks and how they practice religion and stuff so yeah he obviously knows like quite a bit of the ins and outs of his particular traditional beliefs but you know he starts saying this other shit about these other religions and it's just just more hip firing.
	Yeah.
	Not really nailing anything down here.
	Well, religion is such this, like obviously there's structure to it, but I feel like it's far more personal than I think a lot of people like enjoy talking about.
	It's easy to live life by a rule book and to use that to like justify the right and wrong of your life.
	And it's also really difficult to live without that rulebook.
	For some people.
	Yeah, I know.
	But it's just difficult to, like, you have to really approach the right and wrong of the world in a unique way if you don't have a guide to tell you how to do it.
	You know, as an atheist, a lot of people will ask me, not a lot of people, but people sometimes will ask, like, you know, like, well, how do you identify your morality?
	Like, how do you decide what's good and bad?
	And there's not really a clear answer for that.
	No, I mean you could do the like treat people the way you'd like to be treated.
	Of course.
	That's sympathy.
	It's not empathy.
	It's different.
	Totally.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There's not like a there's it's all situational like I don't know ask me a question.
	How would I respond to that?
	How would I act if this were?
	You know, it's like there's the litmus test of, are you able to have morality if you don't believe in the same God that I believe in?
	It's just some dumb guy shit.
	It doesn't register with me at all.
	It's just like, also like morality looks different from person to person anyway.
	So, I don't really know.
	Whatever.
	It's a dumb conversation to push somebody into.
	I do want to end on a high note though.
	Brian gets a little redemption.
	Does he?
	Yeah, he pulls one over on Steven, or at least holds him accountable.
	Okay.
	Remember that chain gang thing?
	Yeah.
	Didn't really make any sense, right?
	Okay.
	He wouldn't say that again, right?
	Maybe.
	They think that they'll be killed last!
	Not if you're a genderqueer, blue-headed, pansexual, lesbian, chain gang freak!
	That's fine.
	He's having a hard time about it.
	That's about all I can handle this week, honestly.
	My one thing that, uh, we didn't really touch on it too much here.
	Steven's entire, like he's still harping on this, like, um, All Palestinians are Hamas, right?
	Like he's still going on this whole thing.
	He's beating this horse.
	And the one thing that he says that's like, it really kind of like... I can hear that Jared's pushing on his face out of frustration.
	Miles away.
	Thousands of miles.
	I was like, wait, you can hear that?
	Because, uh, yeah.
	Okay.
	I did.
	I covered my forehead.
	My right hand and just said, uh, okay, and I'm doing it again.
	I squeezed my eyes even on that one.
	And I said, uh, okay, well this thing that he keeps saying about every ceasefire rally is a pro Hamas rally.
	Right.
	And so he says, um, if you're asking for a ceasefire, it's anti-Semitic, right?
	You're just asking to be called an anti-Semite because you're saying, you know, ceasefire, ceasefire, ceasefire.
	Man, he also goes into this whole thing, he's like, well, if it's not explicitly pro-Hamas, then where are the anti-Hamas rallies?
	Yeah, he does say that.
	I think there's debate around all of this, but I don't think anyone is like, I think Hamas is in the right.
	No one has said that.
	It's so confusing, right?
	How does anyone listen to this in earnest and say, wait, I know exactly what you're talking about?
	Because even the people that the lowest common denominator of whom he is speaking, maybe they're tuning it out as it's happening.
	They're not really listening to what he's saying anyway, right?
	Anyone who's like paid attention to like what's been going on for the last like two decades or you know in that amount of time it's like well it's uh it's actually like not as easy as just saying that I'm an anti-Semite if I have an opinion on this right and it's like What happened on this like on Monday or something like this the all these Jews that got I'm sorry Jewish Americans I should say even that got arrested at Grand Central Station hundreds of them right and because they're asking for a ceasefire but it's like Stephen wants to boldface say
	That that's anti-semitic that these people that are asking for a ceasefire anti-semitic but they're Jewish and like how do you parse that that's I guess like my big question that I've had this week and it's just been like weighing on my mind for the last you know two days that there are really three days I guess not to date us too bad but I've just been thinking about this a lot like how does this uh like manifest itself like the mainstream media of which he says that he is like you know adamantly against and he's uh we you know we do our own thing here but he's falling so in line with this narrative that if you're asking for a ceasefire uh then you are anti-semitic and I just don't I it's it's breaking my brain like I I just don't really know how to like parse that
	I was listening to the FiveThirtyEight Politics podcast this week and they were talking about the shifting percentages of support from people who support Israel to people who support both sides and want a ceasefire or the people who are just pro-Palestinian.
	The numbers are shifting away from Israel right now and it's been divided between people who believe both are to blame and would like to see peace and then people who are pro-Palestinian has also gone up.
	Everyone on either side is so quick to say if you disagree with me you're an anti-Semite or if you disagree with me you're a Zionist and And I don't think we can approach the situation like that, regardless of what you believe.
	Like, it's just unhealthy to... It eliminates debate when you frame people like that, so... Well, it's the core issue with Stephen's binary belief system.
	Yeah.
	You know, he thinks that there's... everything is black and white, right?
	Everything is... It truly is.
	Yeah, mm-hmm.
	It's like a Tom McDonald song, right?
	Sure.
	It's frustrating, and it eliminates the room for actual discussion, and it fucking sucks.
	But it really is that third choice, though, where it's like, I'm not pro-Israel and I'm not pro-Hamas.
	Like, I'm the third thing.
	Everybody for everybody, right?
	It's like, I want everyone to do well and I don't want people to die.
	Like, it's just not... Certainly not civilians.
	Like, no one wants that.
	Right.
	Like, it just, it seems like this could be in some way avoided as to not Take all these women and children out, my god.
	But it really does come down to that, and it's just like, even the people who, the Israeli folks who are getting their family members who were held hostage for a couple of weeks there, them being like, we don't want this to continue either.
	You know, the media side of it, that we're trying to reject wholesale here, you know, they don't want really that voice to be heard, but then you know, Steven agrees with that idea, that these people,
	we just want like a good outcome for our neighbors, what, to the west of us, I suppose, right? If we're
	talking Israel. I don't think that that's insane to say, especially from like our vantage
	point where we're not having to get our hands dirty in any kind of way. It's just to say, I
	would actually prefer that none of these people have to die.
	That's it.
	That'd be great.
	Yeah.
	I know I didn't focus much on the conflict itself more like Stephen's justification for his thoughts about the conflict in the region.
	Like he's finding more sand to pack around his heels that he's digging in and it's fucking gross and I hope it stops.
	It's not gonna.
	No, it's not going to stop at all.
	Unfortunately, this is going to be a topic that we have to continually revisit.
	We can't treat it as this black and white thing, like you were saying.
	You can't just treat it like, you know, if you disagree with Israel, you're anti-Semitic.
	If you agree with Israel, you're a Zionist.
	You can't just paint it that way because there's Venn diagrams here.
	It's not like they're just circles.
	Well, I tried to end the show on a funny thing that I enjoyed.
	Thanks a lot, boys.
	Hey, I got a funny thing, I guess.
	Yeah, what are you doing?
	Yeah, because, you know, I watch this on YouTube every week.
	Oh, yeah.
	And, you know, he always ends it with the YouTube piss-off.
	Yeah, of course.
	His little sign-off.
	His YouTube piss-off.
	It's a bug club.
	Signatorial.
	Is that the word?
	Sure.
	I don't know.
	Signature move.
	Who cares?
	Anyway we got a Halloween special edition this week and like boy wouldn't you know it.
	Rumble logo does not appear right?
	Whoa.
	So first we got the YouTube logo.
	He's walking around the forest, it's lightning, it's scary.
	He's just like, oh no, I'm the YouTube logo.
	Crowder Mug jumps out with a chainsaw, scares him.
	I assume probably makes the YouTube logo piss his pants a little bit.
	Yeah, he pees a little bit.
	If we remember from the regular one, the Rumble logo tells YouTube, you know, whatever it needs to tell him.
	And then he stands off to the side and says to the Crowder Mug, Hey Crowder Mug, you have your go on the YouTube logo.
	And Crowder Mug pulls out his Crowder Mug penis and he pulls, uh, I'm sorry, pisses the pee all over our YouTube logo friend.
	And this just goes on, you know, for a while until they cut it.
	Today, the Halloween episode, right?
	No rumble.
	We got the chainsaw.
	We got YouTube logo.
	He's pissing.
	Crowder mug.
	He doesn't need permission from the rumble logo this time.
	He just whips it out right there and he pees.
	And honestly, it goes on for about a minute and 30 seconds before they actually cut it.
	So it's just this long P sound that's just, there's nothing else happening, just the P sound.
	You know, the mug was full.
	Just more in the canon in the way of Crowder mug animations.
	Wow.
	He doesn't need permission.
	Does this actually happen?
	Yeah, he's not making this up.
	Oh buddy, yeah.
	I went on for too long to make this up and it sounds like I made it up, you know, because it's so fantastic.
	He literally has a video of a mug peeing on the YouTube logo.
	It's an animation.
	That's how he ends his show every episode.
	But this one was spooky.
	Really what made it spooky was like the absence of the Rumble logo.
	It just felt more... Maybe it was a ghost.
	I don't know.
	A rapey, to be honest.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	I've never actually watched an episode of this show.
	You never should.
	It's bad.
	Yeah, dumb.
	It takes me like four fucking hours to get through about an hour of this fucking dumb shit.
	Well, I listen to every episode three times if that makes anyone feel good.
	Nice.
	I'll watch one someday.
	No, I don't think you do.
	You're gonna do the Walsh out.
	I'm gonna do the Walsh out?
	You're gonna White Walsh me.
	White Walsh you?
	Whatever we call it.
	With a Matt Walsh episode one of these days.
	So the boys shouldn't be allowed to dress up for Halloween.
	They've lost that privilege.
	I agree.
	Take it away.
	Gavin Newsom probably not going to be running for president this time.
	Not this time.
	People who punch people should probably be arrested and charged and go through the criminal justice process, right?
	Yeah, regardless of race, yes.
	I now know who Riff Raff is, not just the rapper.
	That's nice to know.
	Pence dropped out.
	But you know who isn't?
	That fly that touched his head.
	Rest in peace.
	He loves it.
	Do you think the fly's dead?
	The fly's dead.
	Are you sure?
	No.
	How long do flies live?
	I already tied a little string around his foot and then now he's got a little friend for life.
	Stephen needs to make mugs in the United States or stop talking about China.
	Yep.
	Stephen should research what chain gang means.
	That's a great point.
	And Dagestan really fucked up.
	Yeah, those kids were not nice.
	What a night, boys.
	What a fucking night.
	If you listening disagree with anything that we've said today, feel free to convince us otherwise.
	If you have any sort of feelings about this, reach out to us at thancrowder or email us at louderthancrowder at gmail.com.
	Keep your heads to the sky and your ears not full of piss.
	For Dennis and Jared, I'm Byron.
	Take care.
	You've been listening to an AudioWall original, produced by Byron McCoy.

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