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Oct. 5, 2023 - Louder Than Crowder
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EPISODE 5: A TALE OF THREE ACCENTS (SEPTEMBER 26, 2023)

The week we don our NAGA hats while discussing a defamation case against the Washington Commanders, chat about how shutting down is fine but supporting your ally isn't, and whether you can ever trust a Democrat, even if they've changed. Email: louderthancrowder@gmail.com Twitter/X: @thancrowder Music by DJ Danarchy

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Yes!
I don't care anymore.
I'm done.
Welcome to Louder Than Crowder, a podcast about the podcast.
Louder with Crowder.
My name is Byron.
I'm joined tonight by Jared.
I'm actually Papa Crowder now.
Jesus, sitting third chair.
We've got Dennis.
He's back.
I'm back.
And he's eating brocks.
I'm eating brocks because I love candy corn.
Do you like candy corn?
It's fine.
I thought today, man, I love candy corn.
And then I went to the, uh, I went to the store and saw candy corn and said, fate had this ready for me.
Sure.
So I ate it.
Now I'm sleepy as shit.
You ate too much, man.
I ate so much.
You ate a whole bag of candy corn.
A bag, at least a thousand calories of candy corn.
You also missed a whole bunch of adolescent e-entertainment nostalgia talk last week.
Oh, fuck.
Stern, Sibian.
Sibian writers of the new dawn.
Who is Brooke, Brooke, Brooke Burke?
Oh man, that's a name I haven't heard in a while.
Dennis doesn't know what the Sibian is?
Of course he does.
I'm joking, I'm joking Jared.
It's a country.
I just wanted to like, if he didn't know, let's like show him.
Let's indoctrinate our boy.
Let's not, let's not do that.
Today we'll be covering the September 26th, 2023 show.
It's my favorite date.
It's a Tuesday.
I love a good Tuesday.
In this episode, content.
He's mid.
Super mid.
How about having this thought just now, like, who's listening to this?
And it was me.
I'm listening to this.
Yeah, it was us.
But, cool thing here, Steven's Inner Theater Kid really got the chance to come out.
Ooh, nice.
Pull out some Arthur.
Arthur acting.
Not quite.
Listeners can expect not one, Not two, but three different extended racist accents.
Ooh, wow, wow!
Yeah, I don't know if it's, should we guess now or is that inappropriate?
Uh, I mean... Does it put you in a bad, uncomfortable position?
It puts me in an uncomfortable position, but I think I would be saying more about him than about myself.
That's true, that's clear.
But I, I just, I'll let him, I'll let him surprise me.
That'll come later, yeah.
We also get into how, in the midst of a looming government shutdown, government employees, whom Stephen generally doesn't care for anyway, won't be getting paid, but Ukrainians will still be receiving- Ukrainians?!
130 billion dollars.
What the fuck?
Yeah, he frames it as us paying their salaries.
And then the Native American Guardians Association may have just given away one of the accents.
N-A-G-A?
Yeah, suing the Washington- Do they have red hats too?
Do you think that that's something that, you know, they're wearing red hats?
Oh, see, I see what that is.
Interesting.
They're suing the Washington commanders for changing their name from the Redskins.
Okay.
Stephen, of course, takes this opportunity to prove that all racism isn't real and it's just conjured up by white women.
Racism was actually made illegal.
So checkmate.
In this case, it's white women who don't like sports.
And also, the mayor of Dallas switched from Republican to Democrat.
The boys have feels about it.
I don't really care how they feel.
And, you know, unless, Jared, you're from Texas, unless you care, we'll probably skip over that.
Well, yeah, he said some stuff about Austin that I could definitely correct him on.
That was like some no-brainer stuff.
I didn't pull any clips, so I'm sorry.
That's okay.
I know what he's saying.
If we want to go over it, it's fine, you know.
You know, things today, they start out with a parody of the song Freshmen by The Verve Pipe.
Very relevant, very current.
Yeah.
And it's about how Steven's half-Asian lawyer is going to sue YouTube for banning him, and I knew that this one sounded familiar.
It was originally released in 2019.
This cover?
Yeah.
He's pulling out an old cover?
He sure is.
He's really going for it.
So aggressively tuned.
Yeah.
He's really going for it.
♪ I'm still sayin' ♪ Yeah.
Yeesh.
It sounded so bad.
Yeah, much like his Bernie Dashboard cover, this is a long song.
Way too long.
Four minutes, 26 seconds.
Yeah, a parody cover should not be more than two minutes long.
Well, unless you have more to say.
He's just repeating that his lawyer is going to beat a case against YouTube.
Okay.
And I love that it's a recycled song.
Oh, well, yeah, and it's kind of irrelevant because, you know, I haven't heard much from his half Asian lawyer, Bill Richman, who is Kim Jong Billist on X. It's been a while.
He used to sit third chair like almost every day for a bit, especially at the kind of the peak of his anti-YouTube stuff before he switched over to Rumble, of course, but...
Bill sitting third chair must have gotten expensive and he was also an active lawyer.
So I don't know what he was doing sitting on a show like this.
I don't know.
I don't know.
So yeah, if and when Bill comes back, I think we'll do a deeper dive into him as a character.
Do you think that maybe the lawyer had like his own button for Steven to where he's trying to tell him like, yes, keep talking, no, keep talking?
Incriminating.
You're incriminating.
Yeah.
Maybe.
I mean, Bill was very much a free speech advocate type guy.
I don't know.
Speaking of third chair, that's where Steve was a bit last week, you know, Dennis, you missed this, after they did their Chinese fire drill.
They do this sometimes where they all get up and switch chairs.
So Gerald kind of hosted the show after this.
They played, of course, offensive music and gongs.
Great.
Glad to be back with you here.
I was doing third chair a little bit last week.
We've got some other things to tend to.
Other things to tend to, huh?
What does that mean?
Well, speaking of lawyers.
Talking to his lawyer.
Not big news, kind of medium interesting news.
We all know Steven's in the midst of his divorce proceedings.
Yeah, yeah, because the dog glove I'd like to take a second to talk about Steven's new lawyer because it's kind of an odd choice So there's a piece published this week in the Dallas Observer and it pointed out that he hired Michelle May O'Neill She has a long history of advocating for LGBTQ plus rights, which is oh, that's really surprising
Yeah, O'Neal, she's a senior shareholder at the O'Neal Wysocki Family Law Firm, and yeah, she appeared in Denton County Courthouse recently to discuss, I don't know, aspects of the case.
Like I said, she's been a staunch supporter of gay and lesbian rights since the early days of her career, which spans back to 1992.
She specialized in family law in 1997 and dedicated a significant part of her practice to assist LGBTQ couples with custody cases.
Very significant.
Jared knows this.
He's the Texas guy.
Texas not very friendly to LGBTQ folks, especially recently with CPS threatening to, I don't know, remove children if their parents support any sort of gender-affirming care or even recognize their children as trans or non-binary.
One of the bigger cases for O'Neill was this, it came in 2009, and it resulted in the first Texas appellate cases that granted unmarried gay, lesbian, and non-biological mothers legal standing to sue for child custody.
It's pretty big.
Yeah, it's huge.
Solidifying herself, of course, as an attorney who's been at the forefront of LGBTQ family law, maybe.
I don't know what she's been up to lately and, you know, even though we're only a few episodes into this podcast, I think we've made it pretty clear where Steven stands on LGBTQ rights.
Yeah.
A couple things that the media noted when the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, he expressed hope that the court would continue extending this into gay marriage, which is fucked up.
Yeah, yeah, obviously.
Of course, of course.
Then there's that whole Carlos Maza Vox Apocalypse thing that we briefly talked about.
I think that was with you, Jared, right?
Yeah, last week.
Where he repeated homophobic slurs for weeks towards Carlos Maza.
Right at the end of the episode, right?
And then, of course, there's every episode of his show.
Oh yeah, yeah, there's that.
I forgot about that little tidbit.
What the hell is Michelle O'Neill doing?
I don't know.
Seemingly once a passionate advocate for LGBTQ rights, she's representing Steven in his divorce proceedings.
I recognize everyone needs a representation.
Of course, yeah.
It's a divorce, right?
So I definitely am not I could see somebody being like, I'm going to separate the person from the case and just work the case.
And money.
And money.
Yeah, of course.
But it'd be strange that he would pick a lawyer like that.
That would be like me wanting to hire Rudy Giuliani for something.
Rudy Judy Judy.
Rudy Judy Judy.
One of the best.
Because I would have no interest in hiring him as a person because of what he represents.
A loser on Masked Singer?
You know who lost the most was dang uh Dr. Ken getting up out and just walking out of there.
Can you even believe that?
Seriously, one of the producers of the show.
Ken Jeong got up and walked off when Rudy Giuliani was beheaded on the Masked Singer.
Okay, I've never watched an episode.
Okay, well it's a singing competition show that we'll talk about.
Another time.
Nice, nice.
I don't know where she is, you know, this situation is interesting.
She hasn't commented publicly about what's going on, of course, because there's a court order prohibiting her from discussing the proceedings.
Maybe interesting, maybe not, but either way, we'll keep our fingers on that.
That's actually like a pretty big tidbit there, I feel.
That's a huge tidbit.
That's a tidbite.
I was not expecting that, but I was just like, my mouth was like open.
I was like, what?
I like to, I like to know these things about our big, beautiful boy over here.
We'll keep you posted either way.
Rumble's in the news!
Ooh, Rumble!
Head on over and watch it at Rumble, who by the way are under attack from the official UK government right now.
They've been short sold.
As opposed to the unofficial UK government.
They go after the top creators at Rumble, right?
Whether you like them.
You go after Andrew Tate, go after ourselves, right?
The hit pieces.
Then you have Russell Brand.
And then they go after the CEO of Rumble themselves.
It's almost like it's coordinated.
It really seems like it.
So have you boys kept up with this Rumble situation at all?
No, I mean just of course that we know that our our sex friend Russ... Did you call him your sex friend?
The UK's sex friend.
They loved him for the sex that he was doing.
Well, the UK government... Are we talking unofficial UK government or official?
The tabloids.
It's complicated, right?
I don't even know who's voting for him.
Okay, so the official UK government is suing Rumble Well, no, they're not.
The UK government was lightly pressuring Rumble to de-platform or demonetize Russell, saying in a letter from the UK Culture, Media, and Sports Committee to Rumble CEO Chris Pavlotsky, in part, it said, While we recognize that Rumble is not the creator of the content published by Mr. Brand, we are concerned that he may be able to profit from his content on the platform We would be grateful if you could confirm whether Mr. Brand is able to monetize his content, including his videos, relating to the serious accusations against him.
If so, we would like to know whether Rumble intends to join YouTube in suspending Mr. Brand's ability to earn money on the platform.
It's just a letter.
I don't even know what much was going on with Russell Brand.
Well, okay, so Russell Brand allegedly raped and sexually assaulted.
I remember hearing something about this.
More than four, less than twelve.
I don't know where we landed on that.
A lot of people, horrific stories about sex pest Russell Brand.
In response to the allegations, which was a joint effort between Channel 4 and a handful of other media outlets, YouTube decided to demonetize him.
Huge deal.
Because of how he reacted?
No, just because of the allegations which I mean that's kind of a debatable thing like totally but there are active investigations right now Steven was arguing that there was no proof and with I pointed out last week with the libel laws in the UK Like you have to have proof if you're making allegations, so it seems to me that it was a reasonable decision on YouTube I suppose I don't know much about it But it sounds kind of like an accusation is just like because of he was accused of it that they want to de-platform him I just wanna make sure that I grasp it all.
The UK Culture, Media and Sport Committee are basically just asking questions of Rumble right now, and that's the focus of Steven right now.
It's aggressive pressure being put on Rumble, but they are literally just asking, is he currently monetized and are you considering demonetizing him?
I mean, I can see the pressure there.
Of course.
I can see it, but I don't know.
I've also kind of always been of that mindset that like if you want to have a video website just host it on your own servers and like Alex Jones does with Bandai Video.
Yeah, I mean that's cozy TV for Netflix.
That's what you could do I guess I mean I don't know why people feel like companies owe them rights to be on there.
People try to say that things like Twitter or YouTube should be like a utility.
They have a right to?
Yeah.
I don't think so.
I don't either.
Yeah.
With this, I mean, I don't know, more pressure on Rumble, Burger King and HelloFresh and a ton of other folks are pulling their ads from Rumble as a platform.
Okay.
But at the same time they hosted last night's GOP debates, so I suppose they're not doing that bad, right?
Burger King did?
No, no, pardon me.
Rumble.
You come and get your GOP candidate, have it your way.
Strange thing is the king was the moderator.
He was just kind of gesticulating at them wildly.
Just making motions with his hands.
Little gloves and his huge head.
Yeah, it's kind of wild.
And they all kind of said their thing, huh?
Vivek was like, yeah, I agree.
People who weren't born here should never be able to come here on any kind of season.
So now that we're settled in, the boys, they want to warm up.
They have a warm-up segment called something they call the Lukewarm Take of the Week.
And on this show, of course, we called Steven Takes TikTok Too Seriously.
In this specific clip, I didn't pull it, they punched down on a podcast A larger person talking about how the mental health of bigger people would be better if we didn't intensely fear being fat.
That's it.
Okay.
You know, maybe if we were more accepting of bodies that were larger and having belly fat, then, you know, it would be a better world.
Yeah, it would.
I think it probably would.
I think in general, just being accepting of people doing things that don't affect you.
And not judging them.
That's not the right answer actually.
Crowder fucking hates fat people.
So like he turns up the heat big time.
They yelp and laugh for about 10 minutes.
They're making a meal out of this one.
You know, I just didn't think that there's much to gain from playing them making fun of these people.
No.
Other than they sound stupid.
Well, the main thing here is that Crowder says something like, you'll never see a fat man claim to be some sort of fat pride symbol or whatever.
I'm like, I can name three like off the top of my head.
Stavos, of course.
I didn't even think of Stobby.
Stobby's a sexy boy.
And he loves it.
Come on, with the tracksuits.
And he is.
Also, that he's like, yeah, famously horny and famously gets it in, Steven.
Okay.
The King of Queens himself, Mr. Kevin James.
Our little meme boy of the week.
How about Kevin Smith?
Kevin Smith probably gets some, but he's also a skinny legend at this point.
He is.
Well, that was like, you know, big, big health, but like, I don't know.
The famous, the famous tweet, you know, famously horny big man, but he lost weight and he's still famously horny.
Sure.
Small man.
And additionally, I want to say, uh, Action Bronson.
A hunk.
Yeah.
Boom.
Big hunk.
Big boy.
Hunks.
Well, the strangest thing is the gentleman sitting third chair, he's not terribly thin either.
Oh, no.
Fiershteyn?
What's his name?
Yeah, Fiershteyn.
Josh Fiershteyn.
Josh Feuerstein.
They keep cutting back to him next to the picture of the bigger person who was on the TikTok, and I'm like, they're exactly the same size.
Why is he laughing so loudly about this?
And I don't care, I wanna say, I don't care how big he is.
Doesn't bother me at all.
Me neither.
I love it.
But it's really odd that they're doing this.
What I wonder so much about all of this is why people get so worried about other people right now.
Yeah, they're really concerned about some- I see that a lot over on the right.
Yeah, this whole segment that Steven takes TikTok too seriously, never ever putting his sights on people that are bigger than him.
Steven famously has that picture of him without his shirt on and with him, he's got a big old, big old juicy chest under that shirt.
Well, I don't, yeah, we don't need to shame him after he had surgery and almost died, of course.
I'm not shaming him.
I'm just saying that like, you know, people have seen that.
Yeah.
So, you know, some of us look at him.
That's true.
Yeah.
This entire segment is ridiculous because it's pulling clips that are they don't really have an audience and all he does is use people who are like less media trained to you know make fun of them and their opinions and it's cheap it's bad.
Yeah, I mean Matt Walsh does the same thing.
Really?
He does it all the time.
Yeah, he recently played a clip that reminds me a lot of this clip.
It was some girl who said that she is like proud to not be married because she gets to wake up and like not deal with kids and just like relax on a Saturday morning and she wouldn't want anything else.
Yeah, and he basically went on this big rant about how the entire purpose of people is to get married and have kids and it just was such a weird like Yeah.
Why the fuck would you care?
I don't get it.
He can believe that.
Of course he can believe that.
And apply that to his own life.
Yeah, I just don't know why he would preach it so aggressively.
It's weird.
I'll tell you why, Dennis.
It's because they want you fat, dumb, dope, and broke.
They do?
Oh, dude, them?
Shit, dude, they are always in my fucking way, man.
They want you fat, dumb, dope, and broke, okay?
What is this accent?
Is this one of our three accents?
New York?
Yeah, I'm real New York right now.
It's not how he said it, either.
But he did want to end this segment.
This is my quiet guy telling you that, like, you know, listen, listen.
Crowder's fit because there's an Illuminati agenda.
Yeah, he of course ends this whole thing with a conspiracy about how they want you fat, dumb, doped, and broke.
Fat, dumb, doped, and broke.
Is that why I ate these candies?
Because you're fat, dumb, doped, and broke?
You ate the whole fucking bag then?
That's so fucking crazy dude.
You gotta think about your teeth and like You better go get some.
Alright boys, we'll use it as a bridge to This Week in Biden.
If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black.
The two of the great artists of our time representing the groundbreaking legacy of hip-hop in America, LLJ Cool J.
You're a fuckin' idiot.
By the way, that boy's got, that man's got biceps bigger than my thighs. I think he's...
Holy shit! And MC Light, both of you, thank you. Because they're both have the light off
on the mic you know you're uh you're all here to listen to the new edition.
Mike Bivens, 40 years producing music that lifts our souls.
After every mass shooting, we hear a simple message.
The same message all over the country.
I've been to every mass shooting.
If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black.
Hell yeah.
So, uh, make a meal out of it boys.
I hope they're hungry.
I can't defend either of these clips.
Those are just gaps.
Yeah.
I mean, Biden's kind of dumb sometimes.
Yeah.
Regarding the LLJ Cool J thing.
One time my mom said Snoop Dogg doggy dog.
And I said, okay.
And he said, you stupid idiot.
Well, I love it.
I remembered it.
I mean, Charlemagne the God didn't say anything about your mom, though, but the Breakfast Club host, he did call Biden the donkey of the day for butchering LL Cool J's name at the event.
LL Cool J, of course.
And then, of course, referring to him as boy, which is a little bit more problematic.
He corrected himself and said, man, but I don't know.
I don't love it.
MC Light said something earlier this week.
She came out and said that she was almost positive.
He didn't mean it.
Anything like that.
I would say that is probably true.
Sure.
Yeah.
It's not great, doesn't look good.
Charlamagne went on to say, y'all keep trying to make this 197 year old man sound cool simply because he's talking to black people and there's nothing more uncool than someone trying too hard to be cool.
Yep.
Fair.
The Breakfast Club is where Biden said that whole, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or for Trump, you ain't black thing.
Right.
Uh-huh.
Which they used to lead in here.
And Biden did apologize for that, but.
Yeah.
Fuck, man.
What do you say about this?
These are just stupid clips.
And I think that for every one of those with Biden, we could find a whole bunch for Trump.
And I don't want to do like whataboutism here, but what I do want to say is like.
But less for Obama.
Damn, you're right.
But what I what I just want to say is that like that's not my my issues with Trump isn't like when he says stupid mean shit.
No, it's his beliefs.
It's his actual policies and like that's like that's what and same thing with Biden the reason I you know support Biden is because of his like policies and his beliefs rather than his like oh he said something fucking dumb.
But there is something to say for someone who can you know lift your spirits the same way that LL Cool J LLJ Cool J. You know what I'm saying, though?
A good speech, the way that someone presents themselves is important, but what's more important is their policies.
What is, I think, more important is that Joe Biden should focus his attention on getting LLJ Cool J his fucking hat back from that shark from Deep Blue Sea.
You guys remember this?
I think it could be a really cool way for him to apologize and just say like, hey man, like I know I said something stupid.
I'm kind of old and my brain is sort of not totally firing on all cylinders all the time.
This is what happens with age.
But I did get you this cool hat back.
I think it's like a blue, like, New York Yankees hat.
Here's your cap, yeah.
Also, Biden wasn't at every mass shooting.
I assume he was talking in hyperbole.
Yeah, he's a time traveler.
I think he was just trying to say that he's like, he knows about them.
Well, even, I mean, if we're talking... He's probably a crisis actor.
Okay.
That's probably what they really mean.
He was literally at every one.
I like that.
Officially, though, he was out of the 24 public shootings of four or more victims.
Since he was sworn in, he traveled only to the site of four.
Not great.
You know, even considering the most serious high-profile shootings, he hasn't really showed up.
He's also been, I guess, I don't even know why I'm defending him.
Yeah, we don't need to worry about it.
Yeah, I mean, I don't... He's for common sense gun control.
Yeah, boys, let's have a little... I just want to point this out to you before we jump out of here.
Of course.
They do this whole thing of accusing Joe Biden of saying, boy, to LLJ Cool J.
They actually just end up like switching it around and putting the connotation in there as like in the racist way the way that he does not do it the way we all just heard it he corrects himself he doesn't he doesn't even put it an inflection on it there's no sort of hard B Yeah, it just doesn't sound like that.
So then, like, when they come back around, they just do that thing.
Of course.
They're reprimanding this man for doing something that he's not doing, but then just do the thing again.
It's just, like, more racist behavior from our cool gang here.
I mean, just the way that I interpret him saying that is like, that person younger than me has big arms.
Yeah.
That's all I interpret it as.
No, I know.
I mean, he's half the age.
Yeah, yeah.
And obviously, and then I think he probably realized the connotation and like, oh, this could have been, could come across wrong.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Well, guys, let's just have fun for a second.
Okay.
Yeah, I want fun.
Yeah, please.
Thank you.
What should Joe Biden's rapper name be?
Comment below.
I think MC shits his pants.
Dude, that's so fucking funny, dude!
You have anything you can think of?
Bedazzled Biden?
I don't know.
That's so sick and so cool.
MC drops a dude.
More poop, poop, poop, poop.
Let's go on now to... Lil Snooze?
Yeah.
Sorry.
We're getting there.
Lil Snooze X. Sometimes it takes me a second, sorry.
Could have self-selling sleeves.
Could have selling sneakers with blood in them.
He just constantly walks around with a blood bag transfusion.
Did that freak him out, do you think?
What?
When Lil Nas X sold the blood shoe, do you think that freaked him out?
I think it did freak him out.
Great punch up, Steve.
That was really funny, man.
MC shits his pants?
He couldn't let Josh have the best joke, though.
No, no, of course not.
He wasn't gonna let that stand.
No, they hit it and then they walked away from it.
They said, no, thank you.
Walk with me, I'm Stevie.
I think his rap name would be Joe Biden.
It'd be vibin' Biden.
Does anyone want to use the Wu-Tang name generator while we listen to this next clip?
Yeah, I'll use it real quick.
Thanks boys!
On to something we absolutely need to talk about.
But we need to talk about this.
This is another example of white people actually co-opting culture.
What white people do is, when we talk about cultural appropriation, what we really experience from the left is offense appropriation.
Like, they decide to take offense for someone who isn't actually offended.
That's why we do this segment, you know, Black and White on the Gray Issues.
You just didn't know you were mad yet!
Yeah, that's all it is.
That's basically what they tell us.
It's just appropriation for what you should be... Like, Taco Tuesday is offensive!
And then the Mexican immigrants who are selling tacos on Tuesday in a sombrero are like...
There you go.
Pretty good stuff.
You're scaring my customers!
Taco Tuesday!
Hey!
Arriba! Arriba!
Hey! Shut up!
Nice.
There you go.
Pretty good stuff.
Do you guys like that?
Uh, not really.
Do we have a Biden name or are we bailing on that?
I'm fucking giving up.
I found some shitty website that was too hard to use.
So quick note here.
Yeah.
If you happen to own namegenerator.org.uk.
Okay.
Well.
Stop.
Stop.
Just change your fucking user interface.
I want to be able to put in a name really quick and have a rap name pop out so I can do funny jokes for podcasts.
I'm not original.
We're on a podcast.
So it's Vibin Biden.
I beat all of them.
Vibin Biden.
Jesus.
All right, here we go.
White liberals, they stole this piece of Native American culture and now the Native Americans are fighting to get it back.
Indians, Redskins, as they so don't mind being called as we now know.
So the Native American Guardians Association, you may have heard of this story last week, but there's an update here.
They actually filed a defamation lawsuit yesterday against the Washington Commanders for quote, delegitimizing the group and its efforts to restore the team's name back to Redskins.
This isn't a new or really straightforward situation, the whole Redskins thing.
It goes back, it started in the 1960s.
The logo started facing criticism from Native American groups and individuals way back then.
Sure.
The controversy was part of a broader Native American mascot debate that gained significant public attention in the 90s.
This is sort of like the era that Crowder vies for, right?
A year before that was when he might be okay with it.
That's the world he wants to live in for sure.
I remember when this all began.
Major League is still one of my favorite movies, even though Cleveland Indians.
Do they still go by the Cleveland Indians?
Did that change as well?
uh the baseball team yeah yeah i think so all right well i'm not sure so this uh sport is over here this is likely what really ticked off steven in july of 2020 during the george floyd protests a group of investors with a combined guardians cleveland guardians Oh, good.
Okay, yeah.
No more tomahawk chop, which is good.
That was weird.
Sure.
Yeah, right, right.
2020, July.
A group of investors with a combined worth of $620 billion sent letters to major sponsors, including Nike, FedEx, PepsiCo, urging the Redskins to change their name.
FedEx publicly called on the team to change their name on July 2nd of 2020, and Nike swiftly responded by removing all Redskins merchandise from their website on the same day.
Retail big boys like Amazon, Target, and Walmart also took a stand by withdrawing Redskins merchandise from their stores and websites.
You know this group effort put a lot of pressure on the team and ultimately they made the decision to retire the name and logo.
So my whole thing here is what does Steven want?
Does he want like laws to say that they can't change their name?
That would be interesting right?
Does he want them to be held liable?
Locked in forever.
Like, I don't fucking know what his solution is if he disagrees with this.
Well, I think that he just doesn't believe that it was a problem.
For many years, you know, the team's owners, NFL commissioners, and many fans, they defended the name, but so many people pushed back.
Of course, yeah, and people are gonna push back.
And here's the thing.
He has a right to feel how he feels about it.
Steven does, obviously.
Of course, yeah.
But also, they have a right to do whatever the fuck they want.
Yes, yeah.
That's how the free market works.
Sponsors can pull out.
Yeah.
You know, people can pull out.
Some supporters, you know people like Stephen here in a minute, have pointed to, and will continue to point to, a 2004 national poll that suggests that a majority of Native Americans were not offended by the name.
I'm sorry, did you say 2004?
2004.
Yeah, yeah, you know.
20 years ago?
It's not a great poll, folks.
Then white people said it was offensive.
They demanded it be changed.
It never actually came from the Native Americans themselves, and now they're saying that's actually offensive because you're removing something that we actually thought kind of made us look cool.
Here's a clip.
Now, what do you want from this lawsuit exactly?
Well, we want monetary damages for the comments that the commander's employee made regarding NAGA.
He called them a fake group to a seasoned box, ticket box holder.
So first, like I said, a lot of Native Americans were offended by the name and have been for a long time.
For him to just like kind of blindly state that.
Well what's weird is that he said some, I don't know what the poll numbers were, do you know what they were?
He said 9 out of 10.
90%.
Okay.
And I will get into the polls in a second.
What they could also do is they could change their name to something that maybe one out of a thousand aren't offended by.
That would be great.
Like is there a problem with offending less people?
It would be nice.
Second though, this group, Naga, not Mega.
It isn't a fake group, but the significance of their representation isn't so clear.
I looked at their website and it's mostly about Redskins.
Yeah, I got it right here.
Yeah, it's like it's all Redskins stuff.
The whole tab of misconceptions goes through a list.
It's all about Redskins.
Redskins is racist, the 90% approval dispute, is Naga real natives?
Who is paying you?
It's all like anti What's the misconception here one offended is enough because that's a one that I just said To be offended is a choice that can certainly be a two-way street the same argument can be made by one person being offended by indiscriminate Indian removal and they put that in quotes
Okay, so are they implying that by changing the name you're offending more people?
Maybe and their whole concern is it's re-education not eradication.
So they're saying like we should reframe things that are being viewed as offensive.
Reclaim the name Redskins and make it represent what they would like it to be.
And I understand that perspective.
So like an actual like Kevin Smith defense.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, this Naga group, like I said, it's unclear just how much pull they really have.
I looked into them.
They're a 501c3 that makes $13,000 a year or something.
That's a lot of money.
I mean, I don't know.
So much money.
They should definitely sue somebody.
Honestly, though, what do I know?
So the history of the Redskins name, to give it, it was in 1769, there was a prominent tribal leader, Chief Mosquito.
Again, these are the names they would use.
Chief Mosquito.
He referred to Native Americans as Redskins.
There you go.
And tribal members, they've even been participating in the Washington Redskins, their celebrations honoring Native Americans for a very, very long time.
90% of Native Americans are not offended by the name Redskins.
90%!
You can't find 90% of people to agree on anything.
You can't find 90% of people in the Democratic Party to agree on sex changes for minors, though you're pretty close.
I bet you thought you'd make it through an episode without a trans panic.
Not at all.
I cut you off, Dennis.
What were you going to say?
It sounds like what Naga's saying, what Steven is saying, is that there's a reference.
You can just check and be like, let me check with my Native American reference and say, oh yeah, this is not offensive.
People aren't like that.
Society's not like that, where it's like... Well, you could poll people, and would you like to talk about those polls?
I mean, well, you can poll.
But the thing is, is that polls aside, if you decide to change your name for whatever reason, because maybe you think it will offend somebody, then you have a right to do that.
And if it offends more people, you have the responsibility of dealing with those consequences.
Sure.
I don't know why we're debating this because at the end of the day it's a fucking sports team.
It has been about three years.
I know but I mean it's a fucking sports team.
Yes.
If I decided to change my child's name because it was offensive or whatever.
Sure, Hitler.
What did you name him?
If that's what we decided to do, would Steven feel like talking to me about it?
You actually just named your kid Chief White Calf?
I'm just saying, at the end of the day, it's a private company that can decide to do what they Yeah, and they, I'm sure they just did the math, if I'm being honest.
They are a business, a massive business.
They saw the pressure and I'm sure that they looked at polls, kind of like the ones we're about to talk about, and were like, you know, I think it's time for us to make the switch.
Financially, it makes more sense.
Totally.
And if they change their name to something that offended me, I just wouldn't support them, you know?
But I also would be like, they have a right to change their name to that.
And then if that was a bad financial decision, a bad call for them, and it was overly, like, offensive to white men in their 30s, okay?
Sure.
The Washington bald white 30s.
I just, I just, I don't know.
I mean, it's why Steven is so outraged about the outrage.
I don't get it.
It's because he believes that it's wrong.
So 9 in 10 Native Americans aren't bothered by the name Redskins.
At least that's what an iffy Annenberg election survey of 768 self-identified Native Americans said in 2004.
Or there's this 2016 Washington Post poll of 504 self-identified Native Americans.
said in 2004, or there's this 2016 Washington Post poll of 504 self-identified Native Americans.
Hmm.
These results were picked up and passed on by many other outlets, but there were a handful of factors
that make these polls kind of unreliable.
Sampling bias, small sample sizes, self-identification of a Native American,
the way the questions were worded.
No, I would say that Stephen Hogan has no problem at all with people self-identifying as Native American.
There's the lack of cultural understanding.
And then there, I mean, there's even like, you know, limited availability of telephone access as well to certain communities.
I don't know.
I could keep going, but I defer to the National Congress of American Indians, which said in 2013 that it represented 1.2 million in its member tribes.
They said that it was offensive.
They are probably more significant than a random sampling of self-identified Native Americans.
In the hundreds.
And I would agree with you probably, but I would say that if we were able to prove to him that more Native Americans were offended, he wouldn't give a fuck.
Of course.
Not at all.
He's already off of it.
He's not even thinking about it anymore.
He doesn't care.
It's just rage bait.
It's rage bait.
We're taking the rage bait.
So what he was referring to is, the NAGA lawyer, that's the acronym here, not to be confused, is referring to a text message from a commander's representatives to a luxury box, seasoned ticket holder, and it said, you understand that the people, the NAGA, the North American group, that started this petition is a fake group.
Well, at 133,000 signatures, that's a mighty large fake group.
Wow.
Mighty large fake group.
This is a Change.org petition.
It's not members of NAGA.
So there's a Change.org petition of what?
Of 130,000 people who say they should change the name back.
Okay.
The way Steven is framing it, he's saying that those are all members of NAGA voting.
This is just football fans.
They aren't.
And also, I like the idea that they say that faking 133 signatures would be impossible.
It isn't.
But faking 133,000 votes Well, I think that there's most certainly more than a hundred thousand people who would say they want the Redskins back.
Of course there are.
I bet there's millions.
There are millions.
There are millions.
Change.org doesn't have any like requirements.
You don't have to be a member of the NAGA mailing list or whatever.
It probably was like a group that was like Make America Great Again!
Change it back to the Redskins!
I can pull it up.
I have the Change.org petition and I signed it.
Did you sign it?
Good, you should, dude.
The way he's framing this is ridiculous.
I would say that that is an underperforming petition, if I'm being honest.
I would say that it is for sure.
Do you want to get a petition going for getting an olive garden in Missoula?
I bet we could get the entire city to sign it.
And it's proof that Change.org positions make substantial changes in privately owned businesses.
Very good.
Alright, let's jump cultures real quick.
Asian cultural appropriation was another one.
I think it was Asian!
Name that movie line, comment below.
I know it.
The mainstream freaked out when there was a supermodel, her name was Karlie Kloss.
Klaus.
Sorry, Karlie Kloss wore that kimono on a photo shoot.
Okay, so of course, white people outraged.
The Japanese, and I know you're gonna say white, but you know, they prefer the term yellow.
They weren't offended at all when they saw foreigners wearing a kimono.
I know.
Here's proof.
So first, Jim Carrey has the cable guy in Cable Guy.
Is that the reference that he's saying?
Yeah, I mean, just like he's misquoting him.
Of course.
I mean, of course.
What did he say in the show?
Gerald.
Whatever.
There's a D. There's a D. Gerald.
Over here.
So quick.
Oh, I know it, Steve.
I know it because we wrote this joke together.
Oh, I know it, Gaston.
But you know, I bet that he probably did see it.
I bet his parents probably let him see it.
It was a PG-13.
That movie scares me.
I don't want to watch it.
My parents won't let me watch it.
So I cut off the clip that he was sharing.
It was of Japanese people expressing how they enjoy when other cultures participate in their culture.
And I dug a little bit deeper into it.
It's from a YouTube channel called That Japanese Man Yuta.
Yuta Aoki.
He's a Japanese author, blogger, Who focuses his content on intercultural communication and dating.
Okay.
So, of course, the interviews that he's sharing on this YouTube video are people saying that they enjoy when other people appropriate their culture.
This is just another thing where he's acting like, hey, we checked in with one Japanese person on the street and they said it wasn't offended.
But here's the thing.
I'm not gonna be offended on behalf of Japanese people.
Of course.
But if a Japanese person says, hey, that's offensive, I'm gonna trust them.
And listen to them.
Yeah, I'm not going to be like, I know better than you.
I don't.
I don't know where the outrage about Karlie Kloss is.
I don't.
Well, I think that when you are a supermodel making a lot of money appropriating people's culture, that's a little bit different than someone, you know, just dressing vaguely some other culture.
Well, and importantly also, I think that there, there has to be like respect for whatever it is.
Sure.
Like, like wearing like a Native American headdress is very different than wearing a kimono because kimonos are part of like everyday life.
Yes.
It's very different.
It's not ritual.
But that being said.
It's up to them to be offended.
Yeah.
It's up to, it's up to Japanese people to express concerns about people appropriating their culture.
Sure.
I just don't know.
And if somebody said to me, hey, that's offensive, I'd say, oh shit, I didn't know.
I'm so sorry.
I wouldn't be like, it's not offensive.
I know at least three Japanese people that say it's cool.
So, and I saw this on YouTube and I could pull the video up and in your face.
Now you owe me a Coke or something.
Yeah, it's all silly.
I have to go back and sleep in opposite room of husband.
What's up culture, Japanese culture?
Just to me, I get it, it's my sort of western lens, but you know, I do think that it's silly in a lot of ways.
It's also very racist if you look at their tenant laws, but guess what?
They don't care.
They don't care about you wearing a kimono.
At least they've moved past that.
Yeah.
Isn't it confusing how he says that their culture is silly and it's racist?
It's silly and a little bit racist.
I'm racist.
It's racist.
It's a little goofy and racist.
He's being racist, saying something else is racist.
That's how he does it every time, though.
Steven, go to Japan, please.
He's just like the biggest fucking killjoy, man.
The more that I've had to listen to him over this last, like, you know, five, six weeks.
It's over a month at this point.
Yeah, wow.
Yeah, congrats, guys.
You're doing a good job.
Good job, boys.
We're still doing it.
Basically that everything is like the most mundane, just life-sucking binary.
And you know what I mean?
It's the dumbest version of anything that it could be.
It's A or it's B. It's black or it's white.
That's it.
That's all there is to this guy.
You just wrote a Tom McDonald song.
I'm sorry.
Oh my god.
Dammit.
You know what's interesting?
I think that he's falling victim to the same thing that popular stand-up comedians experience, where they have, I mean, maybe some success, and then their second special is all about them experiencing their success.
Oh, sure, sure, sure.
And now he's at the point where I don't think he leaves his studio, and I don't think he understands culture beyond a random TikTok that Gerald shows him.
They definitely don't.
Gerald was like, who the heck is MC Lyte?
Well, I don't know MC Light, but I'm a moral.
Yeah, but I mean, look, like, you could Google her if you needed to.
And I'm sure he probably looked up E-M-C-E-E-L-I-G-H-T and then didn't find anything, like, of note.
Yeah, those who know, know.
And, like, these people are not in any way, like, paying attention to any kind of, like, culture outside of the tip of their fucking nose.
You know why?
Because it's fucking scary, man.
It's disgusting and it goes against all their trad beliefs.
Stephen hates change.
Do you have any idea how much money that costs the football team to change the stadium, to change the jerseys, to change the ads that go out there?
It's the same thing with, do you have any idea how much it costs for them to have to change a photo spread, for them to have to change, I don't know, go back and retroactively change books?
Or if you look at Facebook, you look at YouTube, you have to change your content and the guidelines.
And just for us, we have to go back and change and re-upload videos because there are new rules.
Yeah, sure, they're losing the culture war.
The left is losing the culture war.
This is why when people say culture war, uh, silliness.
No, no, no.
Without culture, you cease to have a society.
That's why they want to destroy culture.
It's why they want to destroy the family.
They are losing, but it's a shakedown.
It costs you a bunch of money.
Change, change, change, change, change, change, change.
Change is, turn and face your Gerald.
Now they have to change all of their merch and all of their apparel and people have to
buy that?
Right?
Yeah.
Does he understand that people aren't forced to buy new merch?
No.
And they're not they're not forced to buy the things with new names on it?
Of course not.
And also the people who like the old name will absolutely not buy the new stuff?
I mean the owners of the team have made this decision to change all these things.
Change.
It's their choice to rename the stadium or change the uniform or the logo.
And honestly I think it's kind of a good opportunity for them to make some money.
Well I mean of course the change will make them money.
I'm sure they did the math.
We lose these dumbasses who are sour about not chopping their hands.
They're still gonna do the chop.
It'll die out.
They might gain more than they lose and that's the math that they did.
So let's put a bow on this football team name thing.
Hey, I want my call.
They don't mind the terms!
Nobody cares!
Just be good at football, which you haven't been for a long time.
That's all anybody cares about.
But the people in power care.
That's the problem.
The people who can leverage these companies care.
The American people don't care.
And the Redskins themselves don't care.
They're too busy drinking Windex.
Saying that Native Americans drink Windex.
Cool.
Okay, so like now this makes more sense because they they aim at making a joke about huffing paint.
But none of these fucking vanilla boys know anything about huffing paint.
They didn't even like it close to like what they're talking about.
These are the same guys that say in earnest that there must be crack in the spinach artichoke dip.
Yeah.
This is like crack.
Oh, I can't get enough of this, Cheryl.
Yeah.
This is like crack.
It's like crack.
Yeah.
No, it's a come on.
And everyone knows it's metallic spray paint gets you the highest.
Shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
I just don't know how you can say you're not racist and then say stuff like that.
Yeah. He's like he's like he's like he says that Native Americans
don't find the term derogatory.
Let me use it in a derogatory manner real quick.
Yeah, that's what he did earlier with Joe Biden saying, boy, like Joe Biden didn't say it that way.
But again, Crowder did.
Gives him the opportunity.
Yeah, it gives him the opportunity.
This is how this is how it sounded.
It's like, no, that's just what you said.
That's what it sounds like when you hear yourself talk.
So the name changed in 2020.
The money has been spent.
Everything's been rebranded.
No one gives a fuck.
Let's move on.
No, I think we should talk about it tomorrow.
I don't think so.
Do you want to schedule a show in four years to talk more about it?
I don't think we should.
You didn't pull this clip, but Steven, to introduce this, you know, more of his football racism, whatever the fuck he's trying to, you know, get across the goal line here.
Is that right?
The end zone line?
He's in the red zone.
There we go.
Sorry, I really tried, actually, and it's kind of embarrassing.
Kick it through the hole in the wall.
Yeah, there we go.
Good job.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The guys, you know, the guy, you know, the guys look like anyway, he says that the left is losing the culture war.
That was like the big thing that he starts off with here.
And he wants the left wants to ruin the family dynamic, all these things, of course.
The commander is changing their name is going to cost people all this money.
I was looking into this.
How?
FedEx field is privately funded.
There's like three or four teams that are.
So I really don't, I didn't understand what he was trying to say there, but, but more of that, like he keeps acting like his sensibilities, like his trad cath sensibilities are being attacked on all fronts all the time.
Right?
This is like, But to start it off to say that the left is losing the culture war, why even need to say anything at all if they're losing it?
It sounds like everything he wants is something that doesn't exist anymore, right?
If he wasn't losing the culture war, it wouldn't matter.
And that's exactly it.
All this stuff that he says that he wants, right?
He doesn't actually want any of those things.
Well, because then what would he talk about?
Right.
It's just fodder.
I don't know.
Well, I think what blows my mind is that he says that the left is losing this culture war.
But he's also said that they aren't.
He goes back and forth.
His show is fed by the culture war.
If there wasn't a culture war, Stephen's show would have no listeners.
Yeah.
None.
Well, what would he have to talk about?
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm trying to figure it out.
It's just that he says one thing and then like three minutes later he says something else that goes exactly against... He's like a horoscope.
He also says something about America never lost a war in there too.
Yeah, yeah he does say that.
I think actually, I think I might have that.
The United States, so how about this?
We're the greatest country in the world, we never lose a war, low taxes, first amendment, second amendment, and men are stronger than women physically and women are better at rearing children.
There's the culture that I like here in this country.
Black, white, yellow, or redskins huffing paint.
Now, Let's go on to a shitty culture.
There we go.
What color paint?
Red!
Of course it's red, Josh!
Oh, it's white to paint their calves.
Yeah, exactly.
No, just one guy can do that.
Just one guy.
Oh, is that white calf?
No, that's Tope Brachialis.
He does hammer curls.
He beat out Chief White Claw.
The bicep is to supinate, but he has big forearms.
That's a bodybuilding redskin.
I don't know.
Yeah, like I said.
What?
Crack in the spinach artichoke dip really funny stuff. Uh, yeah time for some whataboutism regarding the looming
government shutdown And you know financially supporting our ally. Let's go
crazy Ukraine, I think it's a crappy one. I don't like it
Uh, if...
That's very corrupt.
I think it's fair.
My opinion has never changed since the beginning of this.
It's one crappy country, Russia, fighting another crappy country, Ukraine.
To act as though any of them exist in any world where they provide anything else to the world, aside from maybe some crops, is silly.
They're corrupt.
They can't be trusted.
They should just, let's break off the pool queue, let them have tryouts.
I don't care anymore.
So what they provide has nothing to do with the influence that they have right?
Obviously like imports and exports are a big part of a global economy.
Of course.
But does he forget about the fact that right at the start of the war like everyone was cutting off Russian gas lines and like gas prices skyrocketed?
It affects everyone because we are a global economy.
Yeah, and also like does he forget about the fact that that like they've been like a significant enemy of ours for a really really long time?
And that we are I mean if we're in a position with NATO where we were trying to protect ourselves and our allies, right?
I mean there's uh happens to be this like I don't know, this like train of thought that like, you know, Putin takes back over Ukraine and then just keeps going, I guess?
Like that's, I don't know if that's like any kind of anything.
Yeah, no, I completely agree with that.
Nothing burger.
He's minimizing it so much.
He's minimizing it so, so, so, so, so.
Oh, he's going to do that a lot today.
Let's make it even smaller.
Well, um, if you thought, Dennis, that we'd only get one bad parody song today.
So here's the thing we had that and then unfortunately the man passed and we were like well two weeks is enough time to yeah There's other guys in the band, yeah, we have so many things in the hopper that we just will never use Yeah, how old was that one?
So here's the thing, we had that and then unfortunately the man passed and we were like
well, two weeks is enough time to...
I think we...
It wasn't mocking nationality.
We were just like, man, it'll maybe make people sad.
There's other guys in the band too.
We have so many things in the hopper that we just will never use.
Yeah.
How old was that one?
Was that a...
That was new.
Was it new?
Yeah, that was new, but they out of respect to the former lead singer...
Of course they are.
They wanted to fit it in so much sooner, but they couldn't.
Yeah, they're like, how do we talk about Ukraine?
No one's even fucking doing anything.
I guess we'll make it part of the shutdown conversation?
It's just similarly to, uh, you know, going in on Biden.
He's getting into more candy corn.
I think I hear the candy corn creaking.
This is so bad.
Chomp, chomp, chomp, baby.
It's getting spooky in them teeth.
But yeah, just that this, right before we got the little song there, they kind of did
it this week in Zelinsky and it's just like Zelinsky doing Baton Bunny, the Bugs Bunny
cartoon where he conducts a morning, noon and night in Vienna.
If y'all remember this one.
I think I can visualize it.
I don't know the specifics though.
Does he have a coat with tails?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, coat with tails.
I feel like I've seen it before.
I see that scene.
Yeah, I mean like it's like seven minutes long, right?
Like it's very short and that's to me that was just like a reminiscent video of like of that particular thing of Zelensky's Bugs Bunny, I guess in this.
But just more of the same shit, right?
Like this is a 1959... Yeah, but what was the video that they did show, though?
I'm sorry, it's Zielinski, and he's conducting... I think it's the same song, the Morning, Noon, and Night in Vienna.
I think it's just like a parody of that.
Was he conducting it at an actual thing, or was it just like... Yeah, yeah, like...
Stephen's complaining that we're paying this man's salary, but this is like, this is what he's doing, and he's playing the part of Bugs Bunny, I guess, maybe.
Sure.
Which that sounds like something that Stephen would like.
Yeah, 1959, that's like right up his alley, but would you believe that he fucking hates this, right?
And so, again, the peak comedy for the generation this motherfucker pretends to be a part of.
It's just more of the same.
This is this week's running theme to me anyways.
He's trying to do stolen boomer valor.
He is pretending to be a boomer.
You're right.
Damn.
Also, I don't know how the fuck we've skipped over this.
Did you catch him talk about when me, Papa Crowder, Made him smoke a whole ass pack of fucking cigarettes?
That's gotta be just a trope, right?
I don't know.
It sounds like something that I would do to my son, Steven.
That's 80s sitcom.
Did you do that to Steven?
It's me, Papa Crowder, as I previously mentioned at the top of the show.
I wouldn't put him past it.
Guys, we're not just supporting the war effort.
We're paying salaries of average, everyday Ukrainian citizens.
Oh yeah, they shut down everything and it's all funded by us now, the entire world.
American taxpayers are financing more than just weapons.
We discovered the U.S.
government's buying seeds and fertilizer for Ukrainian farmers.
What?
The cops?
Oh, great.
That's generous of us.
And Gerald wants to see this dog kicked to death.
Of course.
That dog has a paycheck.
generous of us.
...trained this rescue dog named Joy to comb through the wreckage of Russian strikes looking
for survivors.
Of course.
That dog has a paycheck.
Yeah.
Yep.
Nine million.
And the US also funds the divers who we saw clearing unexploded ammunition from the country's
river.
That doesn't look like much of a river to me, by the way.
Just to be clear, in total, the United States has pledged $135 billion in aid.
Jeez!
So here's what I think is so surprising to me, is that these guys are dumb enough that they don't realize that war has more than just the soldiers and bullets and planes involved.
Of course.
First responders and it has search dogs.
Especially when the war is taking place in major cities.
People are just like going to work and shit.
We need people to- Can you believe that when we fund the war we're also funding cleaning up the blood too?
This is bullshit.
This is bullshit!
Oh, that's not on my contract.
And the farms?
The farms?
Can you believe this?
That they're trying to plant these seeds to feed these heathens?
Obviously, people can have their debates around funding the war of another country.
Of course.
The whole thing is very complicated.
It's super, super complicated.
But if you are for any funding of the war, You have to be for funding all of the aspects of the war.
I'm probably more for the funding of that than I would be for more missiles.
I appreciate the missiles that are being used to protect major cities like Kiev.
But feed the civilians that are no longer able to be fed because their fucking stores have collapsed.
It's just bizarre for them to scoff and act as if that's unreasonable.
It's bullshit.
But then, you know what?
I bet they really like canines.
They seem like the kinds of people who... Dude, you know that they would.
Yeah, they'd be like German shepherds, like, just like hanging out with them all day long.
Of course.
Do you think they have dogs?
He does have a dog.
One of his dogs died.
Do you know what kind of dog it is?
He's got another dog.
Biden?
No.
Biden's dogs just bite people.
Yeah, they're cool.
Yeah, they're fine.
Stephen had a dog and then he got a new one.
I can't remember what the name is.
We'll probably get into that at some point.
Probably like Glock.
It's Remington.
Short for Glockenspiel.
Uh, you know, they go on to talk about how we pay more than our share, of course, more than other NATO countries.
Six times more than, I think they said, Germany?
Do you have a clip of it?
I think I might.
This is the problem with the UN.
This is the problem with NATO.
This is the problem with this war.
When people say, we have to go and defend Ukraine, what they really mean is, more money from the United States, please.
And you never get to stop paying taxes, but your government might shut down.
And then they can throw shade at the United States and say that we're imperialists and they hate all of our policies.
They hate what we're doing.
We're racist.
By the way, can you make sure that you keep funding this war, please, so that we don't get taken over?
We're the only reason you still exist.
Right.
European Union.
I'm sorry.
All of those countries in Europe right now, there's a reason that NATO was formed.
There's a reason that you guys were scared crapless because you had 100 years of war from one particular part of that country right next to you, Russia, coming after you.
Yeah.
Maybe a little bit of gratitude is in order at this point.
Maybe carrying your own weight is a little bit in order at this point.
You think I should be grateful?
I think you should be down on your knees!
They should.
But not for that!
I'm doing this for nothing, you little sh... So, question for you.
Where do you think the money is really going?
Comment that below.
And hit like if you're sick of Europe free-riding off of America.
I don't like Europe.
That's why we left!
Just a hard statement.
Thinks Japanese people are silly.
Doesn't like Europe.
So I think probably the reason why we provide a lot of money to the war is because we have a lot of money.
Yeah.
So we have more money to give and more money to help our allies.
We're a superpower.
Number one country.
I'm not, like, bragging, but... It's just... It's so bad faith to act like the U.S.
has no obligation to the world.
It's crazy.
We definitely have some obligation to the world.
Should we be involved in every war that happens in the world?
No.
Of course we should not be.
We should not be policing the world.
No, but if we have allies who need help, and if we have countries that we work with that if they lose, if they lose the war and get taken over, would be a problem for us, we should probably prevent that problem.
Right?
Yeah.
Like, if somebody said, hey listen man, I can't afford my rent, and if I can't afford this rent, I'm gonna get evicted, and this guy who just sharpens tools really loudly at 3 a.m.
is gonna move in, I would help that person pay their rent, even though I don't live there.
I had a guy that sharpened tools too loudly living next to me and he backed into my vehicle one time.
Yeah, exactly.
And I bet you would have paid the rent of the guy before him.
I'm just gonna say this.
It's not that simple.
It's not that simple that we just don't fund any war and we stay out of all of it.
It's just not that simple.
It's like a small part of our national defense budget.
Of course we do.
I mean, the entire impeachment of Donald Trump was about appropriately funding defense in Ukraine.
Huh.
The first impeachment, sorry, not the second one.
I mean, I know, I recognize that this is more than we normally spend.
Of course it is, yeah.
Because there's a fucking war happening.
Yeah, exactly.
We do something else going on right now that there is a war I feel like they would be mad. We sent people to the
beaches at Normandy I mean, he might have something to say about that.
It's not that Americans are against a fight.
Americans love Patton.
Americans love MacArthur for a reason.
Americans love George Washington.
There has to be a fight that is righteous.
This is not a righteous fight because there are no righteous people involved and it is not our job.
Fighting the British?
Obviously, that's something that made sense.
We wanted to have a country.
Tea in the harbor was kind of a big deal.
If you look at World War II, okay, you understand at that point, Pearl Harbor, that was the catalyst for us getting involved.
Yeah, I think that that may have been the catalyst of us getting involved in the war, but I think, one, I think we were probably providing aid in a very similar way, intensely more than we are now with Ukraine.
If what happened in Pearl Harbor happened today, I feel like Stephen would be against it because Hawaii wasn't a state then.
He probably would like true.
Yes, it wasn't it wasn't until like 59 or 60 or something Okay, so it would literally be like if somebody bombed Guam I bet that that Steven would be like we need to stay out of that I mean, it was a military base that I understand.
Yeah, I still could see that kind of bullshit Of course, he would he would he would have exceptions.
Yes, exactly and I think that it's just I It's just not that simple, man.
It's not that simple.
That's all I'm going to say.
And if you try and simplify it, you just sound dumb.
And we sound dumb talking about it, because we don't know what the fuck we're talking about.
But at least we can admit that we don't know what the fuck we're talking about.
I'm not a foreign policy expert.
Yeah, I think it's just like trying to, uh, you know, keep in the unintended consequences of modern diplomacy.
It would seem right.
Like if you got to do, uh, something that we don't necessarily want to do to prevent something else that like is even worse than the thing that we want to do, that you probably have to do the lesser of two evils.
This is sort of just like the, uh, the binary that he fucking craves, refusing to look at it in its face for what it is, I suppose.
Much like we have, they run out of steam during this segment as well.
We haven't run out of steam.
I'm just getting fucking started.
I don't know about that.
Oh, he's getting into the corn again.
Yummy.
I kind of want a couple pieces.
I'll send you some.
Yeah, the delicious honey flavor.
They flavor it with honey, if you can believe that.
Not this one.
I guarantee not.
This is high fructose, full stop.
Foreign syrup number two, number one ingredient, sugar.
Damn.
Okay.
Yeah, that steamless energy kind of continues into his coverage about the Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson, a longtime Democrat who is now a Republican.
They're pretty much just expressing how they're skeptical if he's a real Republican.
Is he a rhino?
They always act as if they want to evangelize conservatives, but then this happens and they're immediately skeptical.
Yeah.
What do they really want?
I think that, like we said earlier, they truly just want to be the underdog forever.
So here's what I'll say.
I think that when you're down, in general, it's so much easier to get people on your side.
Yeah.
You've probably been to, like, a place where, like, you go to a store or something, you talk to the clerk, and they complain about their life, or you complain about your life to them, they'll commiserate.
Of course.
And you'll commiserate with them.
And that feels good.
But if you're like, oh man, today's the best day ever.
I'm doing so well.
I'm doing so good.
I just won $10,000.
They'd be like, lucky you, and they'd fucking hate you.
Well, not everyone.
Not everyone, but a lot of people would.
They would be less enthusiastic.
Yes.
And I don't know why I use like a clerk specifically, but that's just like some random person.
Sounds like you talked to a clerk today.
I talked to a clerk today, I did.
But no, at the end of the day, it's so much easier to relate to people who are going through hard times.
Of course.
You know?
Did you have anything to add about this, my Texan correspondent?
In regards to Eric Johnson?
Yeah.
I haven't really kept that close of an eye on Eric over the last bit here, but from what I had gleaned is that he'd always been flirting with the conservative culture anyway.
That's how I knew him, right?
But then, like, looking into him, it seemed as though that he had, I don't know, like, looked at, like, establishment Democrats, like, as a Democrat, and, like, was an advocate for progress.
And he used to be regarded as such, like, you know, that he was, like, a progressive.
Until he became the mayor, it seems.
And so that's kind of when he became, you know, became on my radar.
I know that he, you know, worked in Austin in some regard.
Again, I'm not totally sure what's going on with him, but from what I can tell from his name just coming across my news feed is that he's kind of just like a thin-skinned baby about a lot of stuff, but he's also been You know, posing with Ted Cruz, and he blows kisses to Greg Abbott over social media, and it's been speculated for longer, I'm sure, than this just this year, but an article that was published in the D Magazine back in February, the author of that, and I apologize I don't have it pulled up with their name in front of me to give them credit, but
They speculated that he was going to switch parties all the way back then when they were writing this, and it's a long article.
I'm sure it took longer than, you know, a couple weeks of February to have started and written that entire thing, so I don't think it's a new idea.
The reason why someone, I think, would do this is to be taken seriously in like a more statewide election.
Sure, you think he's going for governor?
I mean, maybe.
I think John Cornyn's Senate seat is a possibility.
I've heard like a lot of people talking about that.
So it's possible that this Republican gets in and treats it as like a moderate.
But, you know, also he just seems like somebody who wants to play ball with the big boys.
To be seen as somebody who is capable and, you know, came from running one of the biggest cities in Texas.
So.
And in order to do that, to be taken seriously in Texas, I mean, there's a little blue spot, but Texas, once almost purple, is fairly... it's red at this point.
Yeah, right now, I mean, for certain, I mean, of course it's got, like you said, the dots of blue, at least, but...
You know, this Eric Johnson used to refer to himself as El Blacko, I'm to understand.
Oh, cool.
Is that kind of like a Beto kind of thing?
Yeah, it could be.
It could be.
So we'll see.
We'll see if that comes back up to haunt him in his quest for Senate or any kind of state representative.
I think that this is just Steven's anti-trans beliefs bleeding over into transitions of all kinds.
Oh, he's skeptical.
He's skeptical of all this.
Yeah.
Josh Fireside, I want to just point out, says that he's running for mayor of McCheesefield.
Did he say that?
Yeah, he did.
And I just want to I just want to say, like, listen, man, I'll tell you, he's trying to allude to, of course, the one and only Mayor McCheese, the mayor of McDonaldland, of course, which I mean, this guy, the hamburger, I don't know man they haven't had a free and fair election.
Yeah yeah well you know I think they actually uh I think they ousted him many years ago and they've elected Grimace.
No way.
Yeah Grimace is kind of the guy now it seems like and he's putting all of his blood and uh you know, other excrements into these milkshakes and we're
drinking them and it's killing people, but they seem happier. I don't know. Sounds like we should
send the king in for a regime change.
I agree and the king could maybe give him a little shake him up, is that right?
I think the king is a libertarian.
King is a libertarian.
Do you remember the Sneak King video game?
Sneak King video game.
I fucking love that game.
I think the Burger King had some good hits there for a moment.
And I'll throw this on the record just as it's been in my mouth.
Burger King, Burger King, Burger King, this episode.
OG chicken sandwich, that long boy, that's the best one in the fast food game.
Dude, Hershey fucking sundae pie, man.
I could slam those all day long.
Lame broil burgers the rodeo burger I
Have one more thing here that that Steven wants to harp in on the Austin murder rate and he says something to the
effect of He does say that it has gone down in 2023, but like, you
know Hey, man
it's got a way up and it took the took the work of the DPS to come in with the governor Greg Abbott and all this
And it's all fucking bullshit.
It's just more stupid, dumb bullshit, right?
Like the Austin murder rate has not raised disproportionately to our population size and growth here.
It's been described as remarkably stable when it comes to the actual data by analysts who look at this stuff.
I don't even know.
It's analists.
Analinguists, I think they're called.
Guys, cool it.
We're actually one of the safest cities in America, you fucking jerk.
What, 2021 it was 11th place.
2022 we're ranked I'm sorry, 2023, even newer data.
We're the 15th safest city in all of God's great America.
Stephen.
God bless.
Double salutes.
Double salutes to us.
Thank you.
We're very strong and we're actually a very safe place to live.
I've been here for 12 years and it's fine.
It has its problems, but so does every other city, you dumb prick.
So keep our name out your dang little mouth.
So you're talking about our governor who places, uh, you know, these buoys in the Rio Grande that has saw blades on them that have actually, you know, killed people trying to swim across the river to America.
He's a regular John Kramer.
He's a jigsaw of himself.
I don't know.
Don't give this man any credit.
And it's like that he is.
I think I might Photoshop Greg Abbott on one of those little tricycles.
I like that.
That's funny, right?
And that's, that's, we should all do that for Halloween.
Yeah, we should all be Greg Abbott as Jigsaw.
I also just want to say this too, just because Stephen loves like a good minority tale, and you know he loves minority so much, and I just wanted to like, he's talking about the DPS, he's talking about Greg Abbott, but what he fails to mention here is that the DPS in the last several months that it's been operating, and I think they've actually discontinued it like in the last little bit here, but I digress.
The DPS has done nothing but arrest and hand misdemeanors out to 90% minority population here.
Arrest ticket.
Wait, 90% you said?
Yeah, it's just 90% minorities are the misdemeanors.
Well, that could mean two things.
That could mean that minorities commit most crimes or they're racist.
You decide.
You decide.
Maybe we'll do a poll on our thing.
Let's do a poll.
On Rumble, we'll do a poll on Rumble and trust us, it'll be legit.
All right, that's about all I can handle this week, boys.
Yeah, thanks for listening to me rant.
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We have a thumbs up version.
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Have we?
Don't know what's going on there.
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We do pop up pretty much immediately next to it when you search it, so it's fine.
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I think that any sort of engagement is good in the algorithm, but you know fives are nicer.
They look nicer.
They make the number feel better.
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But yeah, until next time, boys, had a lot of fun eating candy corn with you.
I am going to be expecting that bag.
I'm going to have to ship that to him.
You want just the leftovers?
You want a full bag for yourself?
Whatever you want to do.
But until next time, for Jared and Dennis, I'm Byron.
Take care.
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