Lionel Nation argues Erika Kirk's credibility has collapsed, contrasting her with Kim Kardashian and Meghan Markle who faced skepticism without lying. Unlike Frank Abagnale, Kirk genuinely believes her fabrications, evidenced by her Hillsdale College speech where she invented anecdotes about her husband Charlie using a bat phone for Mesopotamian revenue studies or discussing Henry Cabot Lodge with Pat Sajak. Nation highlights her refusal to acknowledge the disappearance of Lori Franz despite their presence at Charlie's funeral, challenging listeners to find any truth in her claims regarding Romanian orphanages, biblical ventures, or her role as a Corcoran real estate mogul. Ultimately, this analysis suggests Kirk's self-induced trance and consistent dishonesty render her entire narrative a house of cards ready to crumble. [Automatically generated summary]
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Meghan Markle's Alleged Lies00:04:23
Have you ever thought of this?
Erica Kirk is the only person that I have seen or been aware of who has, I got to think about this carefully, who has had her very message distrusted, challenged, questioned, disbelieved.
Go down the list of the usual suspects, I guess, in her class, and there is no class.
Kim Kardashian, Meghan Markle.
Who else?
I'm trying to think of some other people who have claimed to be something they are not.
Kim Kardashian said, She wanted to go to law school.
She said she wanted to take the bar exam.
She wasn't successful, but she didn't lie about that.
She didn't say she was a lawyer.
She just said she was trying.
Meghan Markle might have been a little mmm with some of her products or whatever, but she never lied as to who she was.
You know what I mean?
Never lied.
There are people, you know, whom we have observed that we don't like or believe, but they've never said something, they've never made claims.
That just weren't true.
Yeah, they were full of it.
Yeah, they were duplicitous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But think about this.
Is there anybody that you've ever seen, anybody who, since her very first go at whatever it is she goes at or towards or near or whatever, is it at all possible?
Is it at all possible for.
Anybody to replicate the lies and deception that she has provided, add to that a total inappropriate reaction to the event.
There's all kinds of very interesting schizophrenic reactions, hebophrenia, all types of, all types of.
Versions of this where the reaction is not appropriate.
That doesn't even say it to me.
I'm very careful.
You know, these people, and you've known them, they throw the word psychopath around, they throw psychotic around, they throw.
These are terms of art.
Just because somebody's odd doesn't mean they're psychopathic, psychotic, schizophrenic, you know, things like that.
So I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying anybody, I'm not doing that.
I'm talking merely about what she has done.
There has been a deception one after another.
Her life, she's like the con man, the con man who doesn't know it's a con.
Remember Frank Abagnale, catch me if you can.
He knew what he was saying was a lie.
He knew the distortion.
He understood it.
He knew quite well, he knew specifically what it was that he was saying that it was indeed false.
He understood it.
He understood that it was a lie.
He never got into it.
He never believed he was a doctor or an attorney general or a pilot.
He didn't believe it.
He wanted you to believe it, but he never did.
When you watch, and this is important to notice, to note rather, when you watch Erica, she believes it.
And she goes into this self induced trance, this looking up.
The Self-Induced Trance00:08:50
And when she goes into the, normally it used to be, I think she's finally left the tissue because that's become so cliched.
People were just, that was the cue.
You know, that was a bullshit cue.
Here we go.
And people have also suspected that maybe she might have been perhaps dipping that, I don't know, those tissues into something or those, whatever it was.
I often thought it was funny that she never blew her nose.
That when she cried, her lacrimation never amounted or never involved any kind of effect on her or regarding her nose.
In any event, I don't want to.
Belabor the point.
Yes, I do.
Who am I kidding?
Yeah, I want to believe it.
That's all I do.
That's what I do.
I belabor the point.
That's my job.
But this is what's happening.
The other day, when she received this honorable, by the way, Hillsdale College, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
I'm pulling for you.
I want there to be this new wave, this new version of college, of education, of.
I want all of that.
I want that.
That doesn't have the liberal contamination, the liberal direct.
I'm pulling for you.
But, but.
When she was giving her speech, she starts with this you know, and when she does this, I'm thinking, here we go.
Here we go.
The bullshit made it redlining.
I can see it.
I can smell it.
Here it comes.
Here it comes.
She'll tell you a story.
Sometimes people.
You know, politicians will sometimes make a little story up.
They always say, You know, a woman approached me the other day.
Nobody approached you.
Nobody approached me.
Sometimes you hear people say, You know, people ask me all the time, How do you stay so young?
Nobody asks you that.
That's a little bit of puffery.
That's kind of okay.
That's a little different.
This is a different story.
This is a different story.
This is something she is making up on the spot.
On the spot, that didn't occur, that never happened, but that she believes as she's writing, as she's spinning the yarn, as she's coming up with anecdotes that never occurred to fill in the blanks of this otherwise vacuous existence.
You know it's coming when Charlie and she are on their honeymoon.
Charlie is taking his bat phone, seeking.
Secreting and stealing away to some area so he can continue his coursework, his important coursework with what?
Because I've got to do this class on Mesopotamian revenue systems.
What?
On your honeymoon?
What?
What does this have to be live?
You just couldn't wait.
He couldn't.
I mean, I don't know how it works.
Is it this idea that you better do this right now, or you're not going to get those five credits from Hillsdale College, buddy boy?
And how he would share, and he would say, Charlie, tell me something about Henry Cabot Lodge.
What?
You know, this never happened.
Tell me about Ben Franklin.
The only person who knew was my pastor.
Oh, God, I don't believe any of it.
Nothing.
I don't believe any of it.
None of it.
None, It's just, and I keep telling you, please, please go back and watch that.
And look at Pat Sajak.
Maybe Pat Sajak's a little shingad or something.
I have no idea.
But Pat Sajak looks like the Adivan just kicked in.
It's one of the most incredible things I've ever seen in my life.
It's just incredible.
It's just incredible.
It's just, it's the whole thing.
And then she goes off into the conspiracy theories.
She never, you've got kids.
Listen, honey, this is a commencement.
You want to talk to them about their lives and the future and the.
What to do, not you and your stupid travails, the Erica Agonistes, you know, your rock, your Sisyphusian, whoever it is, who put the rock up the hill.
I get them confused.
Anyway, but it's God.
She won't do this.
She won't.
I'm turning that off because it's too important to it.
I'm looking at it, I don't want to hear this.
She's too important.
To even consider anybody else's direction.
Is this great?
This is life.
You know, I could edit this out, but I'm not because I don't want to miss this magic.
This is magic.
She didn't want to interrupt reality or maybe perhaps giving guidance, suggestion, a word of advice to anybody else to interrupt these yarns she spins, these anecdotal moments of I don't know what.
I don't know what you call them.
I don't know what it is.
I'm going to leave you with this very quickly.
Answer this question for me and write it down in the question or section or whatever, the comments.
Tell me one thing that she's ever said that you believe.
Let me say this again.
Tell me one thing, one story, one fact, anything from any story, any event, any memory, any of.
Any accolade, any, anything, tell me anything that she has ever said, ever, that you believe.
Ever.
I guess you could, to be fair, maybe the horrors she's had to endure being Erica, you know, the opprobrium, the ignominy, the, The directed antipathy.
Yeah, But I'm saying anything about her background, the thing that nobody ever talks about is this weird story about these Romanian orphanages.
What the hell is that all about?
And these companies that she ran, clothing and biblical.
And tell us about your time as a New York real estate mogul or magnet with a Corcoran group.
It's never talked about, it's just mentioned in passing.
It's just, it's a role.
It's this movie role.
It's this act.
This delusional yarn, this storyline that she just, and that's the most important.
You know, you can deep dive all you want.
Deep dive this one, dear friends.
Tell me something she said that's real.
Tell me something she said that's real.
Where are Charlie's parents?
How can the mother of a son who was tragically, brutally, savagely, criminally?
Evaporated from the face of the earth in front of everyone.
How is she not even so much as referenced?
What kind of a sickness is this?
How can you, from one mother to another, why wouldn't she show this?
And this story, even this story, do you believe that out of all the people in the world, that Charlie had this connective tissue, psychic coupling with her mother, Lori Franz, remember?
Oh, they loved each other.
There was no, oh, and there's Paratelia.
That said it all.
That said it.
There's so many moments that said it all.
Lying on top of the casket, creepy.
The five or six days later, the, the, the, um, that, whatever that, that Zoom call was with the, with the, with the emojis and, hey guys, and that sort of thing.
Moments That Said It All00:00:41
And, and, I mean, there's, there's examples I know where I'm thinking it's not cringe.
It's, oh my God.
Oh my God.
That's what this is about.
So, I'm in a very, very simple question for you, very, very simple challenge.
Right away, right away, I want you to do me a favor go to the comment sections right here and write down one thing that she's ever said, any accomplishment, every feat, any accoutrement of her burgeoning and bulging curriculum vitae, anything that she's ever done that you believe.