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March 26, 2026 - Lionel Nation
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Erika Kirk & Dan Bongino vs Candace Owens: Who’s REALLY Grifting Off Charlie Kirk’s DEATH?

Erika Kirk & Dan Bongino vs Candace Owens: Who’s REALLY Grifting Off Charlie Kirk’s DEATH?

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I don't know what to call the forces contrary to or against Candace Owens.
I don't know what you call them.
Is it the TPUSA group, the pro-anti-Charlie?
I don't know.
What I do is I put them into the category of incoherent logolalia, just logorea, this word salad.
I know we're using that word too much.
It's called verbal incontinence.
Just this stuff that comes out that's nothing.
It's just words.
Sometimes if you ever done a website, there'll be these words to show you what columns look like.
Querversum abus.
It's not even English.
It's just letters.
That's what this is, but in words that vaguely convey, vaguely connote, vaguely provide a trajectory of something, resistance or counter to something.
You don't want to have your political motive or motivation to be vague.
Two instances.
Dan Bongino and of course our gal, Erica Kirk.
Let's talk about Dan.
I don't know what this man went through.
I am not a, I love when people say this, I am not a psychiatrist, social worker, substance abuse person.
I am not in any way verse or conversant with people who are losing their minds, people who have become detached from reality.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
What I do know is this.
Something happened to him.
Something happened to him a way back.
I'm not that familiar.
I see this idea where he wants more than anything else to be perceived as a tough guy.
A law enforcement dynamo.
A dirty, hairy, gun-totin, hyper-masculine, super duper go-get-em something or other, who I believe stands for something that I have yet to determine what it is.
I mean, I'm really trying.
He was, what, nine months?
I forget what it was during his tenure as assistant director of the FBI, and then he quit for reasons I still don't understand.
Nobody even objected.
No, no, Dan, it's fine.
I'm leaving.
Ah, fine, leave.
I understand.
See ya.
And he left Cash, of course, who, by the way, is going through his own problems with his girlfriend.
That's for another issue.
But by the way, just Google or X or whatever the particular search mechanism is.
Check her out.
This is a real winner.
So anyway, for some particular reason, he came forward and everything he does is attitude and substance plays no role whatsoever.
It's attitude.
By God, I'm going to be the toughest son of a gun.
I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'm going to be tough.
And I'm going to sit there and I'm going to seethe and I'm going to fret and I'm going to pant and I'm going to suspirate and I'm going to growl.
I don't know what I'm saying.
I'm saying nothing, but by God, I'm going to give you an attitude, an attitudinal framework regarding a subject that is incomprehensible.
I don't know what he's talking about.
This is the guy who came out basically and looked at us and said, let me tell you something right now.
You better not ask any questions about Epstein because I know.
And I know that if you think this is anything about, if you don't believe the self-harm narrative, let me tell you something.
I know what I'm talking about.
I'm telling you right now, I may be embellishing this a little bit, just a tad, just to give you an idea of what I'm talking about.
But that's exactly what he does.
And you're wondering, Dan, take it easy.
And he basically went so far as to discount the whole Epstein thing as nothing to worry about.
And then the other day, when somebody nailed him at an airport or a meeting or something, the rather shell-shocked and scaredy cat Dan looked like he saw a ghost.
This is a tough guy.
Candace Owens has more guts, more cojones in her fingernail, in her cuticle than this guy does in his body.
He basically was trying to move along and to the untrained eye, perhaps maybe get behind somebody who might have appeared as some kind of a security personnel.
But when he was referred to in a most unflattering way regarding his PDF status using YouTube speak, he just is like he doesn't know what to do.
And you did this, and you now signaled, you schmuck.
You just signal to the rest of the world.
This is your Achilles heel.
This is your sore spot.
This is what will make you fold like a cheap suit or a cheap camera.
Do you follow what I'm saying?
Do you follow what I'm saying?
Okay.
That's precisely what this is.
That's precisely what this is.
He's, I don't want to.
I do this all the time.
I keep saying nut.
He's a nut.
He's a nut.
Well, he's a nut.
When he came out, this is when I knew this guy.
He just wants the bravado.
He doesn't even care about the subject matter that normally would accompany the bravado.
It's okay to be a tough guy.
Look, if you want to be Richard Widmark or Robert Mitchum or whatever, some film noir tough guy, at least know the words of the script and explain why you're a tough guy, why you're upset.
When our beloved Candidas came out with her trailer for The Bride of Charlie, remember that one?
The trailer, of which yours truly was somewhat at least featured at one particular point, just as an example, I'm not taking any credit.
I watched it and I said, well, let's see what happens.
Because it's a trailer.
It's a tease.
It's to invite you to watch it.
See, it invites you.
There's nothing really to comment on, but it says, stay tuned.
Coming up.
Ooh.
Dan, apparently, wanting to cash his check early, I guess.
I'm just saying, I wouldn't be surprised.
He came out, remember this seething, blood-curdling, you burn.
It was like he was passing a hockey puck or a bees or some hairball.
Like he had some gastrointestinal distress, like he was dyspeptic.
He was like, push it, push, bear down, Dan, bear down, pass it.
Anything?
Nothing.
That's what he looked like.
He always looks like he's about to explode.
And I'm thinking, what is he talking about?
Okay, fine.
So maybe, you know, he went crazy over a trailer.
I think, what are you, Prescient?
Are you Vatic?
Are you Pythonic?
Can you read the entrance of the beast?
Can you auger the future?
What are you doing?
What are you getting upset about?
He was upset.
He's like, he just wants to be mad.
Dan, wait.
Make sure you understand what you're upset about and then become upset.
And then recently with Joe Kent, by the way, who has, I don't know where this guy has been, who in some circles, I would venture to say, has been universally considered to be a hero, a whistleblower.
Somebody who stood up and said, wait a minute, hold it.
He's loved.
He's loved.
Numbnauts could have come along Dan and said, look, you know, he could have maybe toned down the, you know, the passing, the puck grimace, this grotesque,
these contortions.
He might have said, listen, people disagree.
Joe Kent did this.
Maybe Joe Ken violated his rule.
Whatever.
But Joe Kent is not considered by any stretch of the imagination, especially what he's done in terms of his history.
And I'm not going to compare any of these gentlemen they've done between law enforcement and military a lot.
I've never, I mean, I was a prosecutor, but I don't think that constitutes law enforcement.
But still, we carried a badge, but I don't even go there.
I don't even go there.
So good, you know, thank you for your service.
But Kent is just serious business.
Not only that, this guy can't even read the room.
He's trying to speak.
I don't think he's speaking to his audience.
I think he's speaking to his paymaster because he's doing this and saying something almost like mission accomplished.
So he's over there.
He's out of his tree.
He's out of his tree.
And what's interesting about all of this more than anything else is that he's getting worse.
We have that.
Then we have another issue.
This is the other one.
This is Erica Kirk.
Now, Erica, as we say in the Sicilian mishkina, she's just like, poor thing, pobre.
She has no business speaking about anything to anyone at any time for any reason.
She is de starura.
She's a simpleton.
I don't want to keep saying she's ugly.
I didn't say she's ugly.
She's stupid, ugly.
What did I get to her?
No, I have an itch.
My nose is coming.
She just doesn't have it.
She doesn't have the intellectual firepower, the hardwiring, any of that to handle speaking in front of people.
And she thinks that she can just tap dance and dance and that her vision, her hat, her hair, her countenance, her visage, her pulker jude,
her countenance, her essence, the vibrations of her being are so great, so overwhelming, so magnificent that her presence alone allows her just to just crank out words that make no sense.
When she was presented with an issue, Anenton regarding the notion of Iran or war with Iran, what would Charlie think?
Look, what do you think Charlie would have said about our war with?
You don't even have to tell me what the country is or what the area is.
The war with who was Charlie in favor of war with?
No one.
I mean, yes, under the most extreme of circumstances, if somebody were to attack Cleveland, if some battalions and sorties of red Chinese, you know, Visigoths were to be, which makes no sense,
but would it be attacked?
I think he'd be against that.
But going in and, you know, regime change, did you hear anything?
Have you been following Erica?
Have you been following any of what everybody's been saying up to and including Candace?
That's the whole point.
Some people have suggested, not I, mind you, not I, nay, nay.
But some have suggested that maybe his anti-war status or stance was so great, so powerful, so without exception,
that perhaps maybe some dark forces within that particular iteration might have done him harm.
I don't know.
This is how critical the issue of war and military involvement is.
This is how critical all of this is.
This, this is.
Did she not understand this?
Was she not in school that day?
So when she's sitting there speaking before, and she says the most ridiculous comments about, I wish Charlie was here.
It's like, you know, answer the question.
What do you think?
What is your take?
What is your take regarding this?
What did you believe is the take regarding what would Charlie?
What would Charlie have said?
It was absolute gibberish, gibberish.
This is the part that blows my mind.
In fact, I had something roughly of this, some reference.
I don't want to read transcripts and the like, but the videos said that somebody was asking about Charlie's feelings on the current conflict and whatever it is.
And she says something to the effect of, I wish Charlie was here.
I wish he was there.
You can't imagine what she's saying.
Something about, she says, let me see.
Okay.
Just a second.
How do I?
I'm sorry.
I don't mean to do this.
I don't.
I'm not one of these folks who puts up videos and comments on them.
Maybe I should, but I don't.
But she said, basically, a lot of people.
I'm not going to even do it.
I should have.
I apologize for that.
She basically said, look, I wish Charlie was here.
Charlie's not here.
I miss his voice.
I wish he was here.
And you know, most importantly, what Charlie was said, it's not because of this, because we have a lot of videos of what he said, but it's about the free speech.
And I want you to understand this within the context of free speech.
And she said, by the way, nothing.
And as I course through this at speeds, at breakneck speeds, it, by the way, with no self-reverential description of me,
that makes more sense.
She basically said, look, I don't know what we're talking about.
So I'm going to say a few sentences about free speech and move on.
And you guys are great.
And that's it.
We're going to move along because I'm going to tell you right now that Charlie, I miss Charlie and Charlie and you.
I don't even know what she's talking about.
I don't know what she's talking about.
Here's the best part.
Here's the best part.
She should have known.
They should have known.
They should have said, now listen, Erica.
And by the way, the same goes for Captain Obvious here.
They should have said, now listen, somebody might ask you about war with Iran or the Middle East or Israel or China or Russia or Ukraine.
We have some flashcards for you.
And here is what we're going to do.
This is an answer that we have.
devised and what we want you to do is we want you to get into the habit of telling people that you do not channel Charlie.
You're not here to speak for Charlie.
In fact, one of the things that you do not want people to do is speak for Charlie because in as much as what he said then, situations change, change, they change daily.
So consequently, what Charlie would have said pre-September the 10th may not in any way comport or comply or deal with what's happening right now because of the protein vicissitudinal, you know,
transmogrifications and how things change.
Something like that.
She should have known this.
But she's caught off guard.
And yet again, she starts tap dancing.
And she starts saying things.
And maybe that like that doozy where, remember the other day she says, I wish Charlie was here and missed his voice.
The other day she said, you know, if Charlie, if the Lord were giving Charlie the chance of being here, you know, with his family and not traumatizing his kids, Charlie would have opted not.
I mean, it was still, it wasn't just stupid.
Stupid, stupid is complimentary compared to what it was.
It was submendal.
So the point is, through this, Dan Bongino, Erica Kirk, you're seeing, my friends, a discombobulation, a complete and total free fall,
an implosion of these two people who don't know what to say.
And I never realized, and I never watched Willie Bongino to begin with.
I never realized he doesn't really know what's going on.
He just reacts to them.
He's two things.
He's great at reaction, at this patellar, kind of a wild, raucous, anger-seething.
But you don't really, you're not sure why he's like that.
He just thinks his, he's kind of like Erica.
You think that his, but his strangely painted visage and his tough guy persona and whatever it is,
that that is, you are so happy to see him and so smitten, so overwhelmed by this raw magnanimity and this raw animal intellectual violence that you just say, wow,
isn't he great?
What does he say?
I don't know, but wow.
Such verve, such elan, such, such, such, he speaks with such a vituperative, I don't know what he's saying.
What are you upset about?
Remember, this is a guy who got upset over a trailer.
Did I say that again?
Over a trailer.
That's like going to a movie to see a cup of trash.
Oh, come on, you can't do this.
You don't know yet.
He gets upset over the table of contents.
I mean, I don't.
And I'm not the only one who realizes this, but he's emblematic of the fact that this particular group of people, this TPUSI, whoever they are, this group, they're falling apart.
And Erica, Mishkina, Erica, she's, I don't know what to tell you.
Why they've got to stop letting her go outside or at least put her through some classes, maybe give her some flashcards.
If they say this, if they mention Israel or Russia or rabies vaccines or Warren Harding, whatever, answer this: Don't tap dance, don't pat it, don't riff,
don't let that, don't you say, you know you love me, don't you?
You know you do.
You're just going crazy over me.
Yeah, it's me, all right.
Yeah, it's me.
Hey, guys, it's me.
What am I saying?
Hello, that's not why you're here.
You just want to see me.
And when you ask questions, you give the impression that you do want me to say something, but that's not true.
You just want to see me because I turn you on intellectually, actually.
You love me.
I mean, it's like, what are you doing?
Weird.
Weird.
Weird.
But I love it.
Please bring us more.
Please.
So there you have it, my friend.
Whatever the countervailing, whatever the counter force to Candace Owens is, these are two of the best.
I don't know what they're talking about.
And this Charlie Kirk show, have you ever seen that?
Have you seen this Charlie Kirk show?
Is it even on anymore?
From what I've seen in this attempt, it is so boring.
Okay?
It is so boring.
Take a show, suck all the life, the excitement out of it, and keep going.
If whoever, who I'm not even sure who, from what I've seen, who is hosting that, if you wanted to reduce teen pregnancy, have these people describe the sex act.
Nobody would ever want to do it.
Nobody.
Because they're just boring.
Without Charlie, there's nothing there.
All right, my friend.
Let me tell you something right now.
Believe me what I'm telling you.
Believe me what I'm telling you.
It's over for them.
It is over.
And meanwhile, Candace, she's sitting pretty.
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