Introducing COPAC: Candace Owens Political Action Committee – Lionel Nation Leads the Reveal!
Lionel Nation unveils the Candace Owens Political Action Committee (COPAC), championing Owens as an authentic voice against political "rehearsed bullshit" and contrasting her with what he terms the "cosmic fraud" of Erica Kirk. He critiques media failures to investigate deaths like O.J. Simpson's and 9-11, advocating for a third-party movement rooted in truth, safety, and traditional Christian values over the two-party system. Ultimately, the reveal positions Owens as a necessary force to combat government overreach and cultural shifts, urging support for her platform while predicting Kirk's eventual departure from TP USA. [Automatically generated summary]
I hope everybody's doing great and wonderful, ready to jump on board for us to get real, have some fun.
And let me provide something to you, which I want, I mentioned this before, and I'm dead serious about this.
It's called COPAC, the Candace Owens Political Action Committee.
We're going to lead the reveal, lead the charge.
Let me tell you something.
There is a dim-witted Jadroel.
I'm not going to mention her name.
She thinks all of a sudden I'm going to come on and I'm going to set the YouTube world on fire by coming after Candace, by hating her, by calling her a demon.
I'm thinking, okay, go ahead.
Hey, guy.
Good.
Knock yourself up.
Knock yourself up.
I don't even know what to tell you.
I don't even know what to tell you.
You go ahead.
You keep doing this.
You have missed the point here with this one.
This afternoon, I was, Mrs. Ella and I were supping in one of our favorite little joints in Jersey, a little diner, where the stones, by the way, would frequent when they're at the anyway.
And I was going through the responses, your responses to the comments.
And I cannot believe the level of love, the level of absolute love, smitten, unabashed love, love, admiration.
And I'm thinking, I've never seen, seriously, she's not even running for all.
I don't even know what I don't know anybody who's like that.
Listen, a lot of people are saying, hey, Tucker, good for you.
And God bless you.
Maybe he gets it as well.
I don't know.
I can't tell you.
I've never seen anything like that.
Because it's time for us to talk kind of calmly about something that most people in politics either miss or are too afraid or too stupid to say out loud because it kind of disrupts, you know, the script and the narrative, okay, from, you know, that they've used for decades.
And that this is that there are political figures and there are phenomena.
Politics is one thing and there are phenomena.
Candace Owens has crossed that Rubicon, that invisible line, into something far more potent, far more powerful than a commentator or an influencer or a personality.
I've never seen anything like it.
I mean, she has become a locus, a site, the epicenter of trust, kind of a gravitational center where people don't just listen, they believe.
Steve says, locks, a lordy, my bottom is on fire.
Famous last words from Joan of Arc.
Allegedly, a level evening, Lionel.
Thank you so much, Steve.
Thank you so much for that.
I've never seen the length.
People don't just listen.
They believe it, sounds almost corny.
It sounds like I'm going over the top, and I'm not.
And that distinction I'm talking about is everything because politics, or whatever we used to call this, has always been about persuasion.
But what we're witnessing here is something closer to conviction, something visceral, something that feels earned rather than manufactured or expected.
And in a time, my friend, when public faith in almost every visible authority is collapsing, she stands out not because she holds office, not because she commands a bureaucracy, not because she's been anointed by party leadership, but because people have decided, like nothing else,
to devote their time to her, to vest her with something rare, a credibility that is not rented, credibility that is not borrowed, credibility that is not the product of consultants or handlers or nonsense or media grooming, but a credibility and a belief that emerges and comes from specifically the perception of courage.
I've never seen anything like it.
I know people are going to say, This guy's out of his mind.
I know that.
I know what I'm talking about.
I'm reading your comments.
They don't.
I read them.
That's why you're going to talk about different, you know, CPACs and APACs and OPECs.
How about COPAC, the Candace Owens Political Action Committee?
If she decides to put that power behind her and say, this is what we're going to do, that's it.
Because you love courage and consistency, and you love a willingness to walk into the fire without flinching.
And that is where the conversation gets uncomfortable for some people, and especially for the usual suspects and the usual gatekeepers, but not here.
Because this kind of organic trust cannot be easily or replicated at all.
And it certainly, sure as hell, can't be controlled.
And so, what do we see here?
We see attempts to categorize her or to dismiss her and to label her.
And they're doing everything in the power.
I mean, they have tried every single thing.
It doesn't matter anymore.
I think they're off the anti-Semitic thing.
I mean, maybe it's up to them.
I think they're trying that with Tucker.
That's not working.
It just doesn't work anymore.
There's nothing.
There is nothing.
And all you have to do is either ignore her or just move on.
Anytime you try to, anytime you try to attack her, anytime you try to attack her, you realize you're wasting time.
Let me explain something to you.
I have been trying to explain to people what it is that politicians today don't have.
And the reason why they don't have it is because they haven't earned it.
And that is the sense of loyalty where you really feel something.
You really, really, really feel something.
The last time I saw this, seriously, was when Trump was running last time.
Everybody and everyone was coming out of the woodwork.
Well, for one thing, it was Kamala Harris.
It was beautiful.
It was beautiful.
And I was amazed by that.
I was simply amazed by that.
And by the way, thank you.
I like to thank you for your unwavering support of Candace.
I can't help it.
Well, thank you.
I'm not doing it because I'm trying to be a nice guy.
I'm doing it because it's absolutely the truth.
It's the truth.
It's just 100% the truth.
And what is so rare, what people don't understand, is that today in our world, nobody believes in anything.
Nobody even understands.
Look, politics.
People are scared right now.
People are scared.
People are living in a world right now.
They don't know what's going on.
They're looking at the airport.
They're looking at the airport.
Just the airport.
The airport's not supposed to be crazy.
What is this about?
The airport?
They got to bring in ICE, the airport?
Huh?
It doesn't make any sense.
None of it makes any sense.
Then there's these people.
Then the world, are we going to be at war?
What's happening?
What's happening?
Have you noticed how in the old days, whenever there was some type of terrorist attack or something that pretended to be or seemed to be a terrorist attack, you kind of understood what it meant.
You understood it.
You got it.
You understood it.
You got it.
9-11.
Now we're having to explain a lot.
Nobody knows what's happening.
And people are afraid.
So when all of a sudden anybody comes forward, anybody, and says, I'm going to speak the truth, and they do speak the truth, it's like a breath of fresh air.
And what we're always seeing, also seeing, is that for everybody, there are people who still cannot believe the absolute cosmic fraud of Erica Kirk.
They can't believe it.
There are people, and this is up to you.
This is up to your level of taste, how much you want to know.
There are people who want to know where was she?
Where did she come from?
Where did she live in New York?
How long did she live in New York?
What's going on in New York?
Who paid for her?
You know, I don't know how.
I mean, I'd rather talk about Candice.
I mean, I remember that it's interesting.
I want to know what she's doing.
And what she's doing, by the way, the only reason that Erica to me was of any particular interest was because she was the one who was buttressed against Candace Owens.
And they were talking about each other.
But if what's her name, if Erica just steps down, it's another story.
But I want to go back to what I'm saying about this.
You see, the same thing happened with Charlie.
People saw with Charlie Kirk.
They saw something which is important.
People, you know, with Charlie, and I guess with Candace, you can't dismiss them.
You can't label them.
You can't reduce them to something more manageable, you know, because those efforts that people keep trying to do, they keep failing because the connection that Candice, in particular, has built with her audience is not transactional.
It's not based on a single issue.
And nobody seems to get it.
It's not a fleeting moment.
It's not based on a pattern or a behavior.
I'm telling you, people, business schools should pay attention to this.
There is a brand that's being built that is out of this world.
It is incredible.
It is a brand that I've never seen anything like.
And all of this signals to people that she will say what she believes, even when it is unpopular, even when it invites backlash.
She's also fearless.
And you can't believe your scenes.
Even when it risks professional or social or consequential results.
Let me also tell you something.
Politics, as we know it, is done.
Because if you still believe, that's why COPAC makes this.
If you believe in this left-right stuff, that's a joke.
I don't even know what that means.
I don't know what that, I still don't know what that means.
If she or you or anybody, for example, were to be against, let's say, people in the, what am I trying to say?
Who are transgendered, teaching kids, or kids having their genders reassigned without their parents knowing it.
Something along those lines.
You don't need, there's no political party to that.
That's not left or right.
It's common sense.
That's complete and total common sense.
That's the thing.
And it's so refreshing to see somebody say, yeah, it makes sense to me.
That's exactly what's going on.
And these people don't get it.
Instead of wondering, how do I let me watch her?
What is she saying that's so incredible?
What?
What is she saying?
They're not paying attention.
I don't know what it is.
And I don't know why it's this way.
It's one of those things where I just don't get it.
People are starving for authenticity.
I can't say it enough.
In a landscape and a world saturated with complete and utter rehearsed bullshit and talking points and these carefully calibrated words that say nothing.
And then, again, you bring up Erica.
This woman doesn't know the meaning of truth.
She says things nobody can understand.
Can you imagine standing in front of people and saying, you know, if Charlie were here right now and the good Lord gave him the chance to come back to earth, he'd say no.
I'm like, what?
I said, I don't.
She pulled, it's called pulling it out of your arse.
What does that mean?
She probably says, I don't know.
I just say things.
I say things I think.
I kind of know.
I figure that if I give you that, you know, the pursed lips and the squinting eyes and the tears, then maybe, maybe you will interpret this as meaning something.
Maybe you will interpret it as some kind of.
But you see, then you turn around and we see the person that we like and respect so much rejects the entire model of this nonsense and seems willing to absorb the consequences of speaking plainly.
Do you understand what that is?
Tell me one thing that Erica Kirk has ever said that's brave.
Anything.
Tell me anything you've ever agreed with.
Tell me anything that's true.
Think about this.
Just stop for a second.
Tell me anything she's ever said that's true.
Anything that's not rehearsed, anything that made sense, anything that was a anything that worked, anything that worked, anything that made sense.
You say, yeah, can you think of anything?
Almost immediately.
How'd that happen?
Then look at Candace.
She resonates everything she says in a way that traditional political figures simply just cannot match.
They don't know what to do.
And they don't know what to do with her.
And that's why the idea of a COPA, a Candace Owens political action committee, is not as far-fetched as it might sound.
You think I'm kidding?
At first glance, because it's crazy, because the infrastructure of modern politics, as you know, has always lagged, you know, behind the emergence of, you know, genuine movements.
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You know, the last time we had something, it was MAGA.
And you can argue about that.
Now, look, I'm not, this is not about Trump or anybody else for that matter.
I'm talking about Candace, talking about us.
I don't want to waste any time talking about anybody else.
I just don't.
I just, because then we get off into that tangent, and that's not what I'm here for.
I'm going to talk about a genuine movement.
And she, and what does she ask from you?
Nothing.
She asks you if it, no, nothing.
Nothing.
Erica's always saying, how's the merch doing?
Bye, bye, bye.
What is Candace?
Nothing.
She's had a sponsor.
She said sponsors, you know, commercial capitalism, good for you.
That's it.
And that wasn't conditional.
She wasn't going to say either you buy this.
I mean, it was, there's nothing.
It was just non-committal.
Come on board.
It's the most incredible thing anybody's ever seen.
Think about this.
Think about this notion of authenticity.
There's this thing which is important.
You know, when Bill Clinton was president, they said that he was the most natural, he was the most natural politician, most natural politician.
Nobody really believed him, but he was a natural politician.
And he was so fake, everybody knew it.
Hillary, by contrast, seemed to be just kind of mean or evil, whatever you want to call it, but not fake.
That was it.
She couldn't put on an act.
She couldn't.
She couldn't.
Remember the time she said, if you think I'm going to be standing by your man and making him stink by making cookies, you're out of your mind.
That was like, wow.
At least it was authentic.
The problem, though, is that the authentic thing that she was provided, nobody wanted.
But you see, there's nobody who really talks.
Nobody sits there and says, this is what I believe in.
And if you don't like it, that's fine.
And here's the thing.
I don't understand this.
Four, five, six people can come up and say the same thing to you.
But one of them will say that I believe him.
They say the same line.
It's like some actors are better.
Some people will do versions of a story or a drama.
And you'll say, I like it better.
I like Glen Gary Glenbross better with this one.
I like Mammoth better with this one.
I like him.
I like Death of Esiolma's meant better with him.
You don't know why.
It's the same words.
But there's something about it.
And I can't put it into detail.
I can't put it into detail.
Right now, there are people who are going to be, they are freaking out.
And what they're doing is they're going to try everything in their power to try to go off and to basically try to kill, not necessarily literally, but in terms of politically and otherwise.
They figure they can send out the goons.
They can actually do this.
People thought, people thought that you could pay folks to go out and say terrible things about her.
And then somehow people would say, oh, well, wow.
That these influencers who turned out, you know what the influencers turned out to be?
Right here with your influencers.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Seriously.
If I don't want to mention any names, but whoever, if somebody came and said, she is an evil person, what do you want me to do about this?
Well, look at Dan Bongina.
This is this guy came out of nowhere.
He said, she's a terrible person.
She's awful.
What do you want me to do?
I don't know.
You want me to listen to you?
Well, what are you offering me?
What is your position?
What is your point?
This is the part which is the most important thing in the world.
It's critical.
And some people still don't get it.
This is the most important.
Now, this is good.
Listen to this.
I like sometimes the count is.
Why is there such an obsession with Erica Kirk?
right there.
Think about that.
Think about this.
Somebody actually says, why is there an obsession?
They think it's an obsession.
You see, I don't know what to tell you with this.
Why is there an obsession?
Why is there an obsession?
I'd love this.
The idea is that there's an obsession.
Truth always comes out.
Yeah, but Candace is making too much money.
Give up all the gossip.
Now remember, and I realize, and listen, thank you for that.
And everybody's got their own sense.
But you see what we're dealing with here?
You see what we're dealing with?
It's like, how do you deal with that?
It's like, do you want to, you think, have you not heard anything?
Can you believe somebody's saying, what's this?
What's this?
Like somebody's being mean, like they're being mean to Erroga.
Why are you being so mean?
This is called drive-by.
Somebody drives, that's all.
They don't even know.
It's like they're double parked.
They don't really understand where this has been.
And this is what you'll get sometimes.
This is what you'll get.
I've been through this so many times, so many times.
Whenever you bring something up, give me an example.
Whenever you bring up something that is contrary to the particular narrative, for example, 9-11, 9-11 are the official, people used to go crazy.
You have no idea.
And they say, what are with you?
I say, do you know anything about the facts of the case?
No.
But I'm going to use the word obsession.
Do you know anything that we know?
No.
Not really.
So when you mosey on up, say, what's all this talk about?
I don't understand it.
It's like, you just moseyed up here.
You just walked up and you're asking, why are we, why is there this focus?
I mean, this is what we've got to deal with.
And it's important.
By the way, here's the best part.
I'm not giving any time.
I like to use this as an example of what we have to deal with.
But you know what?
If you don't understand it, I don't.
Other people do understand it.
Big time.
Big time.
Somebody said one time the other day, what is with all these people?
It was a left, left, lefties type.
He said, what is with all these people worrying about drag queens?
What is there?
What is this focus on drag queens?
It's kids, not drag queens.
And we're obsessed, by the way, with the truth.
It's this weird concept.
She gave it a shot.
Brad Rung says, oh, look at this.
Andrew Lloyd Weber, 78.
James Patterson, 79.
George Benson, 83.
And William Shatner, 95.
Thank you, Brad.
Thank you for that.
Truly.
Don't you love what people do this?
I don't sit down and people say, do you mind when somebody lies to you?
Seriously, do you, do you, if I tell you something, whoever it is, it doesn't matter.
Somebody you knew, your neighbor, if somebody lied to you 700 times about stuff that didn't even matter, that's the part.
It doesn't even matter.
What are you lying about?
Nobody cares about this.
And this is an obsession?
Seriously, ask you a question.
When you first got a hold of this, saw this argument, did you know anything about her, really?
Did you go in here thinking, now we're going to get her?
Now we're going to get Charlie's wife because wow, because that's just the way we are.
That's just the way we are.
We're just weird that way.
Did you really think that?
Or did you realize, holy God, this woman's out of her tree.
This woman is out of her mind.
Is it?
No.
And even, and you can tell, even at first, even Erica, I mean, even Candace said, well, what?
What?
Because don't forget, this is her great friend.
These were people, she was as close to this as you could possibly get.
Do you understand how big?
Do I have to remind you?
I guess we got to do it sometimes, how big Charlie Kirk was, what he meant to the world, what he meant.
Singularly, there was nobody bigger than him.
Nobody, nobody.
And then he is assassinated.
And the person who comes right up is this thing and has lied from the beginning.
Everything where she's from, how old she is, what day of the week.
And people think, you think this is an obsession?
I think to myself, what are you?
You know, there was a time, believe it or not, when people would be all over Michelle Obama.
And Michelle Obama never say anything.
She would never say anything.
But they, some people really were, which is fine.
Sometimes she said stupid things and that warranted it.
But I always wondered, you got to be able to earn this.
You got to earn this, this, these, the contra-ton, as we say.
And from the moment it happened, from the moment it happened, and I told you this right now, and I'm going to say it, I sound like a broken record.
The day she straddled the coffin of this guy, all to get a good grief shot.
I said, that's it.
I almost puked.
That's when I got obsessed.
That's when I got obsessed.
That was the sickest thing I've ever seen in my life.
We have a friend in the family, by the way, friend of the family whose dog died.
She's devastated.
They have more dignity towards the dog than she did with her husband.
Seriously.
And it's the weirdest thing in the world.
It's like, he's there and then gone.
Get him out of here.
Get him out of here.
Are the kids obsessed?
The kids, Mickey, is it Mickey?
No, what's his name?
Anyway, nothing.
Just gone.
It's about me.
And the coup de grace.
The coup de grace.
And I know I'm telling you again.
I'm telling you again.
It's six days afterwards when she did that Zoom call.
I said, oh my God, holy moly.
You think this is, you think I'm obsessed that all of a sudden she was plucked out of obscurity and then just battered her budge.
Are you kidding me?
What am I stupid?
Are you not paying attention?
See, it's one thing.
Look, if you don't know anything about this, same thing with like told you 9-11, they don't know anything.
Give them one fact.
I didn't know that.
Well, what are you talking about?
Well, I'll just, because people feel like they're, they feel like they can just.
I had somebody the other day talk about UFOs and UAPs.
He goes, he says, there's never been one bit of evidence.
I said, what are you talking about?
Have you ever researched this?
No, that's what we have here.
So I want there to be this.
I want that, I swear to God, if you told me, because here's what I'm looking for: the left-right stuff is over.
I don't believe in anybody.
I don't know what's going on.
It's like we love them.
And then, as soon as they get into office, they just okay, they go away.
All right.
That's why Candace can never get near your office.
If she ever gets near the office, if she never gets, if she gets near any of this stuff, dear God, it's over.
It's over for her.
It's over for her.
This is what people have to understand, which is the most important.
Americans do not understand left and right.
Forget these issues.
It's not about that.
I want to first like you.
Tell me the truth.
Tell me the truth.
And that means you've got to tell me not the truth that benefits you.
The truth.
That's the truth.
Sometimes the truth has no, it's not good.
I'll never forget.
There was a doctor one time.
There was a show I saw about how parents, how doctors are taught and counseled to give the bad news about death that somebody's not going to make it.
Somebody's.
And they had these medical school students and they're standing around.
They're saying, well, you know, sometimes.
So all of a sudden, the professor says, let me show you how to do it.
Watch this.
And they were doing role plays.
Mrs. Johnson, yes.
You have stage four, and there is no, as far as we know, there is no cure.
It is terminal.
We're going to do everything in our power to make you comfortable, but we have exhausted every option, every treatment.
And you can please talk to somebody else.
But I'm telling you right now, any doctor will tell you at this particular stage, you've done everything you could.
And the fact that you're alive today is because of the commitment you made to yourself and your health.
But unfortunately, this is something that cannot be done.
And if you're outside, three months, six months stops.
But we will make sure.
Do you have any questions?
That's what people want to hear.
They don't want to hear this, Heming and Hawk.
They don't want to hear this.
They want to tell you the truth.
They want people to tell you the truth.
The truth, truth.
Not the good truth, not the nice truth, not the comfortable truth, not the convenient truth, not the easily swallowed truth, but the truth, truth.
That's what they want.
It's the most important thing in the world.
They want you to tell me what it is.
And they also want you to say, here is what you, whether you're in power or not, why are you risking our men and women in the military?
Is this necessary?
Tell me the truth.
You want somebody to say, technically speaking, no.
This is about something else.
This is about positioning oil geopolitical.
No.
No.
Nobody's going to be attacking us.
Sorry.
You're not going to get some missile flying into Cleveland.
It's not going to happen.
You might not have been around for Vietnam.
I remember that.
They lied to us.
They lie.
Oh my God.
They lie.
Don't you understand we got to do this?
Because it's important for us to be there.
Because don't you understand that the communism is going to go up and up domino effect into China every?
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Oh my god.
We got to do yes yes, it's important.
Can we trust you?
Of course you can trust me, of course.
Oh my, never forgot that one.
They told us that and people told you, and if you said you were against the Vietnam War, you were Un-American.
You were Un-American.
You know, love it or leave it.
Shall I go through COVID?
Who told us the truth about COVID anybody?
I don't even know what the truth is.
I don't even know what any of the truth is.
I don't even know anymore.
Indeed Steve, you can't handle the truth.
You're so right about it.
I know that we're gonna we're, we're gonna be saying that forever.
We're also gonna be saying, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
But that that's what I'm trying to tell you.
This is the chance for a huge glacier, thermonuclear change in the way people look at politics and what people think they want.
And I can't say it enough to you.
People are tired of the lies and they want truth.
They want absolute, positive truth.
And I know it sounds corny, I know it does, but I've been looking at this and I was reading these things today from many of your comments, And there is something right now.
The energy that is being focused is unmistakable.
And it is not dictated from party headquarters.
Many of you are.
Many of you have come here and you have never, ever, ever, ever paid any attention to politics.
Never.
Many of you have never even identified with left or right.
Never.
Or Republicans.
No.
You're so tired of this scripted legacy media nonsense.
You've been lied to.
You gave up on this.
You said, look, I am done with this stuff.
I don't even like these people.
I don't like any of them.
You have been, you have been basically, they have degenerated the politics by a base of people that nobody's ever really understood.
And you right now are feeling, am I right?
You are feeling something that you have not felt in a long time.
How many of you are brand new to YouTube?
How many are brand new?
Not just to me, but to Ken.
How many of you just bumped into this?
I said, okay.
And how many of you all of a sudden were so smitten, so connected by what amounted to be truth?
Thank you, Billy.
Thank you, Bill, Parillo, Parillo.
But you said, I'd like this.
I'd like somebody speaking the truth of me.
Okay, okay, fine, fine.
So TPUI says he's not the end of the world.
So it doesn't even matter.
It was like you couldn't believe you're actually meeting somebody.
He's like, I like this whole bell.
I like her.
How many of you did?
How many of you didn't know who she was?
You didn't know who she was.
I mean, you knew who she was, but she, I mean, I mean, let's face it.
Listen, we've all had these things.
We've all had these moments where we say, yeah.
But we rarely say, like, yeah, I believe him.
As opposed to, I really'm entertained by him.
You know what I mean?
It's a big distinction.
Not that I believe or that I, how do I say this?
I don't want to give names.
I don't want to do that.
But there's some people who are very popular.
But it's saying, I don't know if I believe them.
I just like their show.
I like them.
I'd like to get to know the guy, have a beer with him, you know, whatever that particular phrase is.
But something came along with her.
It's different.
What is the word?
What would you call it?
Truth.
You keep saying it over and over again.
Bobby Tandown says, Bobby Tandown says, sorry, came in late tonight.
Hey, guys.
Have a great week ahead.
Literally, bro, bruh.
I've been doing that.
Hey, guys, to the point where I am driving my poor wife crazy.
She goes, why are you saying that?
I said, I don't know.
It started, oddly enough, with this crazy adherence, this reference to an expression that Erica gave when she did that horrible thing.
She doesn't even realize it.
She doesn't even grasp it.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Can you think of anybody in your life that you've ever really respected?
Have you ever, seriously, have you, honest to God?
I've worked with people before.
I worked with a guy one time who was a, who was a station president, you know, and he was so honest.
He wasn't the nicest guy, but you just, when he said, good job, you believed him.
Thanks.
Other people, it's all full of shit.
They don't know anything.
There's this thing.
I got to tell you something.
It's very, very important.
This might help.
This might serve as some kind of an analogy.
When I was a brand new, well, I was in law school.
It's like towards the end, not even the last semester.
I was in this class in Bradenton, Florida, called Brady, they call it Bradington, Bradenton, in a courthouse.
It looked like something, it looked like Inherit the Wind or To Kill a Mockingbird or something.
It was like Civil War.
Seriously.
And we're watching this guy, and I don't know anything about this.
I knew what was on TV, but I didn't know whatever.
So I was with this fellow, this lawyer, and we were watching somebody do what appeared to be, it was closing arguments or something.
And I thought the guy was great.
I said, I thought this guy is really good.
So I asked this fellow who, by the way, he was dipping snuff.
So help me, God, dipping snuff.
This is how bucolic it was.
And I said, I think he's great.
What do you think?
He said, well, he's good.
He's good.
He's good.
But you see, there's one thing that's missing.
He's not persuading me.
He's explaining it.
But I'm not persuaded.
I can explain something to you.
But if I don't make you understand it, if you don't, I mean, you can come home late like a husband and obviously out catting around, reeking of booze and whatever.
And you can say, well, I was working late, you know, that kind of that classic routine.
And if your spouse or somebody you want to fool, which you shouldn't, but if they're not persuaded, you're wasting your time.
Swamp Drain or not, there has never been so much truth uncovered as probably been in our lifetimes.
I would venture to say you were correct.
And I want you to understand something.
I hope you never think that this is some kind of, I know people are going to say, oh, because I don't even, you notice I don't use the word conservative.
She might be.
She might be conservative.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know about this.
Because there are some things that I ask myself, is this right or is this wrong?
Irrespective of what's happening.
And the thing I want to talk about tonight, by the way, when I do this, when I do this overnights with WABC, I love to talk about people who I think have been the subject of unfairness and inequity.
And one of the biggest ones is when somebody has been taken from this planet.
Did you ever hear about Dorothy Kilgallen by 1965?
They took her out.
The Kennedys, most probably, took her out.
It just so happened because she was, it was a different world then.
Commentators were far more important.
And she gave some pretty nasty stuff.
She wasn't even going after who killed J.D. Tippett.
This is what JFK.
Make a long story short, the facts of the case didn't make any sense.
Didn't make any sense.
Didn't make any sense.
Do you understand this?
The fact didn't make any sense.
And what didn't make any sense about it was the fact that the facts didn't make any sense.
And the same thing I want to talk about, Tyler Robinson.
They're not going to be, they're not ready for this because they're under the belief that he won.
And they need maybe somebody like me to say, this doesn't make any sense.
This doesn't make any sense.
Do you remember the movie Silverado?
Silverado was one of the, was a great, great, great movie.
My favorite, my favorite uh uh uh cowboy movie of all the time, Dennis, uh uh, Kiva Costner, and anyway, and Kevin Costner was this crazy guy, he was a young one and Kevin Klein was in, I think, and others anyway, they said hey uh, uncle uncle uh, uncle Dave, or whatever, fell off his horse, he fell, he goes what fell off his horse?
And he said, He never fell off horse.
He's alive.
You know, you know someone.
When somebody tells you something about somebody is like yeah, you know um, I saw so-and-so, he was drinking.
He wasn't drinking.
You know, you know something.
There's something, a particular fact, there's something that didn't make any sense, something that that uh did.
You know William Colby.
Remember who William Colby was?
He was the head of the CIA.
Remember that.
I mean that sincerely, everybody.
Hey guy anyway, it's for you.
He pretty much gave up the secret.
Remember Richard Helms and these guys remember James Jesus Angleton.
These were hardcore.
These were in the days of Alan Dulles.
So what happened was Colby, who was gave his life and his time, everything to this country as a CIA.
He was a CIA director he, but he was spilling his guts.
Well, guess what happened?
He drowned.
And they said what they said he drowned.
He said well, he was.
He went out on in his canoe and he was an expert canoeist.
He went out in this weather and said yeah, he left the soup on the stove and it was cooking.
He left soup on no wait no, no.
And somebody said that didn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
None of it does.
There's something wrong with the facts of this game.
The facts have to make sense.
The part that leads up to the facts, the surrounding facts, the circumstances, the behavior of the individual, of the assailant, of the, of the victim, all of this has has to comport, it has to jibe and jive, it has to to work together.
And the issue with Tyler Opposite.
None of it makes sense.
Facts Must Make Sense00:14:57
It's stupid.
We don't know anything yet and they're going to try to slip this bias and we're going to be there.
We're going to be there and I hope that uh, that I know Candace will be every ever vigilant at that.
We can't let this man just die in vain.
We can't let him die in vain.
We can't.
It's not, dare I say, Christian.
It's not right, it's not fair.
It's not fair.
He deserves more.
And the person who cares the least about it is that wife, and i'm fixated on her.
I mean, do you, if I went to Kobe Bryant's like Candace brings up a very good example if I went to Kobe Bryant's wife and I said, do you think maybe we might want to pursue any type of wrongdoing?
You better believe it or get to the bottom.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean somebody who feels like they have been the victim of this?
There's never been.
There's been this detachment from this story and also they're going to eventually go through this and and and what is she going to do when she gets to the point because Baron was doing a tremendous job regarding this, her background and where she lived, and how does she pay the rent and who owned it and what happens?
By the way, she's not going to be made to account for that.
Never, It's not going to happen.
I mean, you're going to know that, but she's not going to answer any questions about it because she's going to figure it's none of your business, and that's it.
But the point is this: how does it work?
How does it work?
When is it going to crush?
And there's also something which is very difficult for people to understand.
I have been accused in my life of being petty.
And I would always beg to differentiate I'm not petty.
I might be punctilious with the facts.
I might be purgish.
I might be exacting as to meet out justice, but I don't want people to get away with stuff.
And it's not that I'm petty, but there are some people who are liars.
And because they are liars, because they are nothing but just seething, I get, pardon my French, I got a heart on for them.
And I can't help it.
It's like, we're not going to, you're not going to do that.
You're not going to get away with it.
You're not going to get away with this.
Period.
End of discussion.
You're not going to do this.
What you're saying is just wrong.
And there's nobody forcing me to do this.
There's nobody mandating this, but you're wrong.
And there's something about people who go through their life thinking that they can get away with murder, and it drives me nuts.
And it drives me crazy.
And there's a lot of people too who lie.
And I'm going to tell you one thing too.
And this is my own background.
Maybe this is my generational work.
But when you lie about war and you lie about death, I take that very seriously.
I take it very, very seriously.
Most people do.
And I don't like people.
I'm not going to, I'm not this fool anymore.
They lied to us.
You've been lied to.
We've been lying to after 9-11.
Better fight them there than fight us here.
We didn't need to go to Iraq.
We didn't need to go.
None of this.
None.
Never.
Never.
Oh, it might have been beneficial.
I'm not believing this neocon nonsense.
And how can you turn around and claim to be a son of God or a, I should say, not a son of God, but a but an acolyte of his word and countenance and sign off on all this death?
Stop lying to me.
Look, tell me what it is.
Look, we don't have to go there.
But you know what?
In the long run, maybe it's better.
Maybe it's better for us to get a foothold in there because there's some crazy people out there.
And, you know, better that we don't run the oil than they do.
You know what?
I might buy that.
You know, I might buy that one.
I might buy it.
I might say, look, these people don't hurt.
Nobody's going to, we're the United States of America.
Everybody's going to hurt us.
But that's not the issue.
The issue is something else.
The issue is, maybe it's, maybe it's, you know, it's not critical, but we'll give it a shot.
You know what?
Thank you.
Tell me the truth.
Tell me the truth.
But there's something else which is a problem here.
And nobody wants to address it.
And to bring her name up again, Candace Owens, Owens is doing it.
I never thought in my life, I never thought, I've never been one to profess or wax, dare I say, rhapsodic about the devil or evil or aspects of this horrid behavior that I can't believe.
But what I've seen with my wife's work, with what she's doing, there is a targeted, there was a targeted focus, a predation on young people, kids, that I never thought even remotely possible.
I never thought this would be even remotely possible.
And somebody's got to do something about it and bring this up.
Braciera Mia says, in war, truth is the first casualty.
Yes.
You know who said that?
That was Senator Hiram.
Thank you, Carla.
There was Hiram.
Hang on, let me check.
Let's check our chat GPT.
It's driving you crazy because I got it now.
In war, the truth is the first casualty.
And that is, I think it's Senator Hi.
Oh, Aeschylus said this.
Wow.
I also said it was Senator Hiram.
There was a Hiram.
Oh, Hiram Johnson.
He said, the first casualty when war comes is truth.
Yes.
And there was also, I knew it was one of the two.
Thank you, Carla.
And I also think there's something else about war.
And that is that the first, that all the plans end upon the first shot being fired.
But what are we going to do?
What are we going to do when it comes to basically stopping evil?
Hi, I'm running for office.
How you doing?
My name is Hiram Johnson.
Good to see you.
I'm running for county commissioner, and I'm fighting against evil.
That's the part which is the most important.
This is the most important.
This is the most important.
I like this.
Bill Parrillo said, what I like about you and Candace is you admit not being perfect can seek only truth without embellishing the facts.
And being a senior, it's refreshing to see this at this time in history.
Well, when you're my age, you don't have to bullshit nobody because I'm so ain't old.
I'm so old I fart dust.
Did you know that?
Did you know that?
Hell, I don't know what the hell's going on here.
I just wear sweaters and hang around Costco a lot.
I don't know shit about nothing, but I do know, I do know goodness.
It's a very, very simple thing.
I know bullshit.
And that's it.
Bullshit.
I got a little leeway here and there.
You know, a little leeway.
But God, do I hate the truth?
I hate the, what did I say?
I hate that.
I hate that.
I hate the lies.
And I got to tell you something.
There are things which I would say, remember something.
We all have different ways of handling things.
You do not have to agree with everything somebody says or the way they're handling it or the way they're speaking about it or what they're talking about.
You do not have to ever do that.
You do not have to in order for you to like what they're doing.
There are some people who have said some things that I may not, it's not that I disagree with it, but it's like, that's not my cup of tea.
That's not my thing.
Whatever it is.
Okay, fine.
Doesn't matter.
The fact that somebody stands up and says, I believe this, right or wrong, all of the people, all of the people that we look about, look, just in terms of show business, the people who stood up and said, I'm going to do something my way.
Whether it goes back and they fought in terms of comedy or commentary.
I mean, this is from Lenny Bruce to Carlin to you name it.
Go through the list.
There's this Mort Saul.
Mort Saul took on the Kennedys and they buried him.
They killed his career.
When you go after people, remember Nixon had his enemies list.
I mean, there are people who went after them.
Then again, you got to ask yourself, remember, pick the hill you want to die on.
But let me tell you something.
There are people who are set in their ways.
Whenever there's going to be a real revolution, the people who are going to make the change are those people who are from elsewhere.
The people who don't necessarily, they don't join in.
Let me give you an example.
During Vietnam, everybody was singing and yelling, crying about the war and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I understand that.
And that was great.
And they were, you know, they were in the streets and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what really made the difference?
You know what made the difference big time?
Guess what made the difference?
Let me tell you what made the difference.
You ready for this?
It's when people is when people in the like moms and dads and grandparents and nuns and priests, when they came out against the war, when grandparents and like little old ladies and they said, oh, wait a minute, what's this?
Yeah, no, this is really, it's like, okay, we've had enough.
We've had enough of this.
We've had enough of this.
And that's all.
And I swear to God, anybody who comes forward and says, I'm going to say this, I'm going to take on the world.
I think Tucker's doing that to an extent.
I really think so.
Without a doubt.
Absolutely positively.
I respect.
It's like, wait a minute.
I don't even know what he's saying.
You're taking on the world yet.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
You don't even know what it is.
Doesn't matter.
I guess I'm for the fact that somebody's daring to say, I don't like this.
I don't like this.
Do you know how many times, maybe not now, but do you remember when rap, it was hip-hop at first and rap came along?
I was defending it left and right and couldn't never listen to it.
It's nothing to do with it.
I was like, I love people who say, I'm going to do something different.
I'm going to fight for something different.
I like this news.
Great.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
Do you like it?
No.
I don't like it.
You know, whatever.
It's nobody ever, there's no guts anymore.
You look at the cable news, folks.
Oh, my God.
No hits, no runs, no errors.
Look at cable news.
Nobody says anything.
Nobody says anything.
They never say anything.
I remember one time, who was it?
It was somebody.
I think they brought up, was it Seth Rich or something?
Bow.
They said, okay.
I said, wait a minute.
Well, that was weird because they people would want somebody to investigate the death of your kid.
But there's these people that I wonder, like these stories like Seth Rich, Dorothy Kilgalli, Marilyn Monroe, even Judge Crater, Colby, 9-11, OJ.
I went, I, you, you have no idea.
I got to tell you this story.
You may not, you may not think this is this big of a deal, but it was, it was, uh, it was good, believe it or not.
In 90, what was it, five, whatever, I forget what it was, when the night of the slow speed chase, I saw this.
This might have been before your time, but just bear with me.
I saw this and there's this O.J. Simpson.
I said, he's getting away.
No, he's not.
I said, no, he's getting away.
This is called escape.
Why?
He did it.
You have no idea what this is.
They go, what?
What I was kind of new to WABC and they go, What are you saying?
I said, He did it.
Nobody said this.
Nobody.
I said, Come on, it's obvious.
What was the last time you ran?
I said, If you ever go to a fire and somebody run and people are running in to help, but one guy's running out like this, stop him.
He had something to do with it.
This is common sense.
This is called flight.
He is leaving.
Yes, he's escaping.
He killed these people.
You can't believe the reaction.
You can't believe to what happened.
Carla says, Do you really, do you think humanity?
Do you think humanity will outgrow war?
The past few decades feel less like progress and more like regression.
Yes, modern tools, ancient instincts, civilization evolves, but conflict remains constant.
Absolutely why?
True.
It will never improve.
And you know why?
Because war is so profitable.
It's profitable because you need very expensive tools to pull this shit off.
That's why.
And it's always about, it's never about what they say it is.
It's about land and territory.
Absolutely positively.
Absolutely positively.
Now, I wanted to tell you this.
This at the time, I think back, and I can't believe people thought I was crazy.
War Is Profitable00:02:26
I said, I went on WABC, I said, he killed these people.
Oh my God, you can't say that.
I said, what are you nuts?
He killed these people.
So anyway, one day, I got a friend of mine called me.
He says, Do you know Charles Groden?
I said, who?
The actor?
I said, no.
He said, well, he's talking about you.
I said, what?
He had a show on CNBC.
Charles Groden.
I said, oh, yeah.
It turns out that Jack Parr and Regis Philman, because they all were part of the Greenwich Connecticut group.
They all listened to me because nobody did this.
I know it sounds like nothing to you, but in 93 or 5, it was nobody, I mean, just nobody did it.
And I didn't, I said, it's obvious.
It's an opinion and all that kind of jazz.
So I went on his show.
He called me on a show.
So I went there and he said, the running lady says, I'm so sorry.
I said, that's all right.
Don't worry about it.
He said, I only have like a minute, two, two minutes.
I said, listen, do me a favor.
I said, just say, what do you think?
and sit back.
True story.
He said, okay, so this was in Secaucus at the time.
No, no, Fort Lee, Fort Lee.
And we went there and he said, well, today we got, and he always had the way he talks like that.
Well, Lionel from WABC, what do you think?
And I leaned over and I said, you're looking at me?
He did it.
And I went.
And nobody, and they went crazy.
Are you kidding me?
What are you talking about?
You think this was an accident?
How come there wasn't more blood in the Bronco?
Why was there any blood in the Bronco?
What are you stupid?
He killed these people.
He called it.
Anyway, that was it.
At the time, people went berserk.
Why?
Because he said the truth.
And it wasn't far-fetched.
I wasn't just, you know, pulling out of my ass.
It's, I knew what I was talking about.
There were other facts to it, which I don't want to go into now, but it was true.
And the thing about it is that sometimes, who was it who said that?
During moments of crisis, sometimes the most incredibly profound thing to say is the truth, it's the, it's the.
Speaking The Truth00:02:49
It's the toughest thing to say, and that's what we're talking about here and that's why she comes along and this is the most incredible.
She did this, this is the most important.
This is, you know, I gotta tell you something.
It's difficult, it is difficult to i'm sorry to ignore Erica Kirk I I I know people don't want to talk about this who now occupies a position of significance and responsibility.
I'm sorry to say this, and there is no denying, no denying the weight of what she has kind of stepped into and I understand that.
But the challenge that she faces, my dear friend, is precisely the one that Candace Owens has already solved, how do you convert visibility into trust and how do you transform a moment into a movement?
And how do you, how do you demonstrate and explicate and show and deliver to a skeptical and increasingly, you know, discerning and sometimes dubious audience that you're not simply the product of some event, that you're the real deal, that you're legit?
How do you do it?
You hope to go, because here's the thing, it's very simple.
You know in your heart that she is speaking the truth and you feel it and you know it and you say, you know what.
I may not be able to explain why, I may not be able, but I know what i'm talking about.
She is speaking the truth and I believe her and I like her.
I like her attitude, I like her countenance, I like her affect, I like her laugh, I like her, everything her.
She is singularly brilliant, knows the facts of the case better than anybody.
I mean, it's just, it's what's not to like, and the moral of the story is that this is about truth.
I can't believe this.
It's about truth and when you read I I, I should just read fact.
Go to any any uh, and I have questions for you here with this one.
Go to any of the shows.
Listen to the comments.
They're incredible.
I mean they're they're, they're in encomia, they're panegyrics they're, they're peans it's a good word p-a-e-a-n.
It's uh they're, they're tributes of of, of love and respect, odes of thank you glorious, that's what it is.
It's incredible and she deserves this and i'm not gonna back off and i'm not gonna back down and I don't give a goddamn what anybody thinks.
Pardon my friend, I don't care about that, I don't care.
I don't care about this, I don't care because she's right.
She Deserves This00:03:33
And even if she's not right, even if she turns up, so what?
Let her speak.
I'm watching somebody actually putting everything on the line and it's easy for us we can sit back and say well no, she's doing it because you don't even know what's going, you don't even know what she's going through, you don't even know what she imagine, imagine the threats, imagine what she has to do, the security.
Imagine these sick people in the world who would want to.
Just, they don't like her because she's powerful.
I don't know if there's a racial component to it.
Maybe there is, but I don't know.
I I don't think that's it.
I think it's just the fact that she's powerful.
And the worst are a lot of people who are so jealous of her oh my god, people who want to make their ways, especially in the world of of uh Youtube who just, who don't?
And at the same time, it's got to be tough being for TP USA, because i'm seeing this thing.
Look at what happened in Arkansas.
It fell apart.
They must be thinking, what are we doing?
How can this stay in business how Anybody else would have said, listen, Erica, for the sake of the organization, you have to step down.
Tucker for president and Candace for head of the FBI.
Seriously, bro.
Well, you know, I can think of worse.
I can think of worse.
I can think of worse.
The problem with Tucker or anybody for that matter is that he would, they would say, you are not going to get near unless, and this is why this is important, unless we kill this two-party system and we put our money and our time and our efforts in the notion of a third party.
And that's what this is.
We're part of a third party.
We're a third party.
We're a third party of people.
I don't know what you want to call us.
I don't know what you want to.
We have to have a platform, but it doesn't matter.
I, one of these days, you remember one thing.
Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan was kind of like a joke.
Screen actress Guild, and whatever it was.
And he decided to work for his GE.
Remember that?
He would go around the country giving speeches.
Remember that one?
And he was so good at giving speeches.
And they say, you know, we like this guy.
We like this.
You know, this, this guy, we thought, is this Ronald Reagan?
Yeah.
Wow.
And he went from this city to this city to this city.
It was a General Electric Theater from 54 to 82.
And he was the GE spokesman.
He traveled all over the country.
And they said, you know, this son of a gun, they could run for, and he ran for governor of California, which would be the seventh largest country in the world at the time.
If you look in terms of size and budget.
And he did it.
And if you would have told somebody Ronald Reagan, you would say, you're out of your mind.
But he had these fundamental beliefs that he believed in.
And there's one thing about Candace, which is terrific.
I think she's unequivocal.
She said, this is what I believe.
This, this, this, this, and this.
I don't think there's any going back on it.
I don't think she's going to change her mind because later on it might be expeditious or beneficial for her to kind of back off.
I don't think she's going to do it.
I think she's going to absolutely positively, 100% stick to it.
And again, what everybody has to understand in terms of whether it's Candace or anybody running for office or JD Vance or anybody for that matter.
Defund The Police Movement00:03:36
What is the zeitgeist?
What is the spirit of the times?
What does the country want?
What are we afraid of?
What do we want fixed?
What do we need corrected?
This is the part which is the most important.
What do we need fixed?
And if you ask anybody across the land, black, wine, anything, gay, stray, trans, first issue, number one, crime.
Crime always is the issue.
Number one, crime.
You can't be afraid anymore.
Crime, left, right.
There's no Democratic crime.
There's no Republican crime.
There's just crime.
That's it.
I want you and your kids to feel safe.
And I want bad guys to worry and fear me more than you fearing the bad guy.
But they don't because there's no sense of retribution.
There's no sense of blame.
There's no sense of gotcha.
None.
None.
We actually lived in a country where people people Democrats, said, defund the police.
What defund the police?
Turn your burglar alarms off, don't lock your doors.
Nobody says that.
Defund the police.
Look, they may not be perfect, but what are you talking about?
This was a movement in this country.
We went insane, insane and we sat back.
Have you ever heard about the hundredth monkey?
Or hundred monkeys, depends upon it.
Hundred monkeys, hundred monkeys is a is a myth, but it's also kind of a meme.
Supposedly, or supposedly, as people say, there were some monkeys years ago who learned how to take sweet potatoes and wash them in water, or dip them in water to get the sand off.
And the theory says is after 100 of them did this, everybody knew how to do it, meaning that sometimes movements and patterns and waves and revolutions take place merely because a number of people do and say the same thing.
They just, they just do it.
So when you see somebody do something, when you see somebody, it works for the opposite too.
When you hear people say, well, you know, we should defund the police.
Don't defund the police, defund the police.
After a while people will change the way they think for no other reason other than everybody's been doing.
It's a hundred monkeys, it's this, this plan, this thought.
There are things that we are doing that are crazy nuts.
Here's one for you.
You ready for this one?
Are you ready for this, I think?
I think Candace would dig this.
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What does it mean to be American?
What does it mean?
Our good friend Carla says, Carla, you're so kind.
Says remember one of the movies, the resistance were the heroes.
Why is that?
Now, in real life, those who question and resist are the ones plays under scrutiny.
I know, thank you for that.
Those are the nuts, those are the crazy people, those are the.
Those are the crazy people.
You know, this is something which is.
This is beautiful.
And how is being a skeptic considered to be like?
Why would you not want to know who really killed Charlie?
Well I, I don't.
I, I wasn't around that day, but I have asked this question about what is the American?
What is our tradition?
By the way, this doesn't mean many of you are from out of the, from elsewhere, and you're an American.
You're an American.
I don't care where you're from.
You can be from anywhere.
But once you're here, what do Americans do?
If I move to Brazil or if I went to Germany or France, I'm going to say, I want to know kind of what you do.
What is your language?
What do you eat?
How do you act?
Do you wear a hat?
When you walk into a shop, do you say hello to somebody?
What do you do?
You tell me, I want to fit in.
I want to know your traditions.
I want to know your culture.
I want to know.
I want to know your traditions, your songs, your jokes, your attitude.
I want to know what it's like to live and to be whatever it is that I'm living in.
Okay.
Here's a girl, there's a woman named Maureen Le Pen.
They called her a far right, a radical right.
She's a right.
Oh, and her father was a badass.
He wasn't right-wing.
He might have been a bit totalitarian.
He might have been racist, whatever it is.
But the point is they called him right-wing.
I was like, no.
Remember, Hitler was a socialist.
In any event.
So Maureen Le Pen was asked one time, what do you think about a Burkini?
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Have you seen this?
A Burkini.
This is a burqa and a bikini.
Kind of a portmanteau, you know, the combination of both.
And she said, that isn't French.
I'm against it.
It's not French.
Not it was so wonderful to hear this, to hear somebody say, that goes against our tradition.
Now, somebody told me the other day, you ready for this?
We have a guy around the country.
His name is Zorhan Mamdani.
And he is a he's not harmless, but he's basically a child.
He doesn't know.
He's a, as I call him, a benighted moonbat.
So anyway, the other day, whenever there's any kind of a Muslim event, he's there.
It's like, okay, fine.
So somebody said to me the other day, in fact, we're hearing this in our country, Grand Rapids calls to prayer at, I don't know, midnight or whatever it is.
They said, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
Hold it.
Hold it.
Calls to prayer on speakers, Islamic calls to prayer.
First of all, any call to prayer.
We don't even do that with Catholic.
We barely, barely, barely have, you know, the bells on Sunday, you know, church bells, maybe, maybe, but not this.
In any event.
So a friend of mine, well, my wife's daughter, anyway, she is as lib as you can get.
I mean, fine.
And she said, I hate, I forget where it was, somewhere in Borum Hill or something, some tony part of Brooklyn.
Brooklyn, we can't believe it.
They've got buildings worth five, ten million dollars.
They look like old abandoned warehouses.
I don't get it.
Anyway, she's missed, you know, this.
And she says, I can't stand it.
I got to move.
Why?
She says, I don't recognize my neighborhood.
What do you mean?
And she mentioned the number of cases where she saw people wearing hijabs and not burqas, but hijabs and abayas, you know, sometimes the all-black.
And of course, by the way, there's no, you can't, you can't have a prohibition against this in this country because of the fact that there's a First Amendment.
You can't do that.
You may not like it, but you can't tell somebody you can't do that.
But the point she was saying was, I don't recognize her cool, tony, hip, Gen Z kind of place.
Look like little Damascus or something.
Because she said, what is this?
I said, but it's plurality.
I don't want the plurality.
No, it's diversity.
Don't you want that?
Well, I don't know.
She doesn't mind diversity if you're because of his sexuality, because of anything else.
But this bothered her.
And I noticed another person too.
You can give a, you could put a guy with a beard, no problem, a hat, no problem.
Diversity And Plurality00:03:16
But somebody walking around like a, like a walking apostrophe, they walk like this, and people are going crazy.
Now, anyway, so I said, we're on to something here.
I said you're going to have a hard time stopping that because there's, there's, it's, I'm sorry, but this is something that Americans are allowed to do.
But do you see what's happening?
What do they want?
They want truth.
This is in America.
Listen to what I just told you.
This isn't America.
Remember that Bowie song?
I don't recognize this.
We're not perfect, but we speak English.
We speak other languages, but the official language is English.
That's what we do.
We love, listen, I'm here in New York.
I'll take it places.
Oh my God, I take it at Flushing in Queens.
You'll think you're in Beijing, but that's okay.
That's, you know, by design.
They're not trying to come in and change anything.
Our good friend Carla says, I grew up watching John Wayne and Clinton Eastwood.
Are you righteous?
Dependable.
No nonsense.
That was my idea of America.
Then I came here and realized those values weren't gone, but they were becoming rare.
Absolutely.
Carla, you're so right.
I want to give you a gift.
I want to give you a song and you are going to cry when I give this to you.
I don't want to tell you what it is.
I want you to hear it.
This is Russell Smith from Amazing Rhythm Ace.
It's called King of the Cowboys.
And here we go.
And I want you to listen to this.
And I'm going to give you this.
You listen to it.
And you will cry.
You will, here we go.
You will cry.
It's beautiful.
It's this, it's this idea of the way things were.
It's the idea of the good guys, the good guys.
When you talk about American tradition, explain to people, cowboys, white hats.
You know, the white hats in Intel speak are those people who are good.
You know, they want to help with trying to transform what's good.
The black hats are a different story.
The idea of little things, churches, picnics.
I saw somebody the other day.
I swear to God, I am getting real, real emotional for things.
And I don't even know why they, I mean, I do, I well up.
And one was, we were, my wife and I were just kind of walking through this little park area and we, and they have this, it's kind of like there's the houses are on one street.
And we look, and there's a kid.
He had a stand.
Emotional Park Encounter00:14:55
This is lemonade.
I thought this is beautiful.
It was so good.
It's peritic and Venmo.
I don't think they wanted a lemonade.
That was a lemonade.
Lemonade.
Little things like just, oh my God.
Remember when you go to the store and you'd come out and they'd have the girls selling Girl Scout cookies.
Remember that?
I didn't recognize how important they were.
I didn't recognize it.
I thought it was kind of like, well, whatever, you know, it's not cookies.
No, it's America.
And you know what's coming up?
You know what's coming up?
Easter, Easter, Easter.
I can't, listen, let me tell you something.
Like I'm telling you, I know the way of the rules.
And I've always studied the notion.
I understand what Christianity is.
I understand it.
And I know the nuances.
And I know basically what it's about.
And this is the MACDAT, not the MACDAT.
This is the day of Christianity, not Christmas.
Easter.
This is what it's all about.
It's the most important thing in the world.
And I want to see it absolutely positively exploited and extolled because we do not have an official religion in this country under the Treaty of Tripoli.
You know that one.
But if you think there has not been a strong Christian connection, you're not paying attention.
That doesn't mean there's not room for anybody else.
Doesn't mean that.
But this is the part which is the most important.
I always ask people this.
I said, if I took you into a church that blindfolded you, I said, all right, this is a church that wants you to look straight ahead.
Look at the altar and tell me if it's a Catholic church or a Christian or a Protestant church.
Don't look left or right.
Let's look straight ahead.
I took off the blindfold.
What would you look for?
How would you tell the difference?
You can't look left and right.
You look at the cross.
And if there is Christ on the cross, it's a crucifix, is Catholic.
If the Christ is off the cross, it's Protestant.
Because that is a focus on resurrection.
Resurrection.
That is the it.
Listen, I'm not saying one versus the other, but notice the rules.
That's one thing that Candace says, which I love, because growing up, I have a very, very soft spot in my heart for the Catholic, Catholic Church, Catholic, you know, the 60s, you know, when it really mattered.
Like, I remember before Vatican II, when the Catholic Mass was in, the priest turned his back and it was in Latin.
It's really serious.
Give us this air, daily bread.
Quorum.
And, um.
Anyway, I remember that.
This the the sound of it, the incantation of it.
It was this wonderful sound.
It was beautiful.
It sounded almost like regal.
And it was a paternoster, our father.
It was reversed in quies and kailees, who is in the heaven.
Sanctificator nomen to him.
Adueniat regnum cuan.
Fia wonuntas tuas.
Si quuen kalo, et in terra.
Padam nostrum.
Our bread.
Oh my God.
It just, and that was this thing.
And it was the smell.
We had the, you know, the incense and it was great.
And I miss it.
And I didn't understand it.
And it's not a matter of, it's not a matter.
Please don't take this the wrong way.
It's not a matter of ideology.
It's a matter of acceptance.
And it's a matter of tradition.
And it's a matter of beauty.
And it's the idea of your giving yourself.
And you are a part of a group because you do not want to show tribute alone.
You show tribute with other people.
That's the thing.
That's the critical part about it.
And that's what needs to be driven home.
Can't say it enough.
And there are other people who want to say, listen, there's plenty of, there's plenty of this Greek Orthodox and this and Eastern Rite and there's all kinds of stuff.
But I do not want to see ever Christianity supplanted, removed, expurgated, bulgarized, emended, not amended, emended, ablated.
I don't want to see that.
This is a different story.
This is, I believe in Norman Rockwell.
I believe in Corny.
I believe in Aunt B and Opie.
I believe in Leave It to Beaver.
I believe in listen to the King of the Cowboys.
Okay?
Now, I can't, I believe me, I'm not any kind of expert in terms of Catholic Church today.
I don't know anything about that.
I've no idea.
In fact, I'm not a religious scholar in the least.
I do know what the bigger picture is.
The bigger picture when you are, when there are people, when you hear church bells, when you see parking lots.
Did you ever have a guy, did you ever have so many people at your church?
We had this where there was a shit, like a cop, somebody's father was a cop who would come.
You kind of kind of keep an eye on the, and then he would, he would direct traffic, let everybody out.
I mean, there were that many people.
It was important.
Palm Sunday, St. Blaise.
When you are a kid, in particular, you don't recognize things.
You don't understand things.
But what you do need is you need structure and you need something.
You need a framework of a faith system.
And within that, then that you can play around with.
But then later on, you can decide what you want.
When I heard Candace say she has holy days of obligation, oh man.
In Catholic school in the 60s, how many are there?
This, we've got the Advent.
That's right, the first of the assumption of the resumption and the Advent of Every day there's something.
That's the rules.
House rules.
So what does she do?
She's making it great.
And what else happened?
What else?
Listen to me carefully.
What happened was that Charlie Kirk made it great himself.
He made it great himself.
He brought that to the, he brought it to everyone.
He brought it.
He was talking about no sex before marriage.
Erica.
Anybody know?
I mean, just, I mean, brutal, a wife staying at home, might have been a bit much for people.
God bless him for that.
God bless him for that.
And that, in many respects, one of the reasons is why he was dispatched.
And I'm not going to forget that.
And I'm not going to let anybody forget that.
And that's why when Candace comes along and does that and brings this up, I think it's worthwhile.
And that's why when Erica dismisses it and gives me that crazy thing about if he had if he could come back, he wouldn't.
I don't even know what that means.
Does this make sense to you?
Here's Jamie, by the way.
Jamie says, Lionel just got here.
Do you go to church these days?
No, I do not.
I'm not a, I'll tell you why I have some problems with not so much with the I'm never going to tell you I do something when I don't.
I got a problem with the structure, so to speak, the structure.
But I have never in my life read more and I've never understood more about a bigger picture and then this notion of this idea of morality.
And I'm telling you right now, I have never seen anything.
I will tell you this.
I love to watch.
Do you remember the do you remember the story of what was her name?
Christian, what was her name?
Sister, remember her name?
She's a Catholic nun.
There was one who would do art school, but there was this other sister so-and-so.
And my heart drops when I see her.
My heart breaks because this is what I remember when I was a kid.
I love that.
I love the idea of what a church a person did.
We have, where we're, I've got friends of the family who have a new child, and they were asking me, what should you do?
I said, absolutely, positively, 100% baptized, 100%, 100% baptized, 100%, 100%, 100% baptized, So they said, I said, yeah, but they were not necessarily that devout.
I said, it's not about you being devout.
It's about welcoming your child.
That's what it's about.
It's not about you.
Quit putting yourself in the middle of it.
It's about welcoming a child, about the holy rite of saying, this is you.
And on this day, you know, that it's beautiful.
Religion is like anything else.
Religion is like music.
You can get so much out of it.
And the sad part is the people who don't really understand it.
They do it because they love the formulaic part.
Listen, to each his own.
But going back to what I said, going back to what I said, what is so important and what is so blasphemous and heretical to me is when I see what people are doing specifically regarding, especially Erica, it's not about you're pretending to be devout.
You're pretending to be devout.
That is blasphemy.
Blasphemy.
In addition, my dear friend, I want to tell you another thing, too.
If ever somebody tells you that you got to back off on the Candace thing, go ahead.
Just say thank you.
Have a nice day.
To each his own.
But I brought up Copac kind of in jest, but not really.
I'm not going to start an actual political action committee.
But I'm telling you, there is a group of people right now from all different walks of life who are coming in, who represent a lot of things and who feel that what she is suggesting is wonderful.
And that is the thing called the truth.
Period.
End of discussion.
And I think that's what you feel.
It's what I felt as well.
And where this is going next, I have no idea.
It's got to go next.
Where do you think it's going?
So it's got to figure.
She can't keep going like this to people.
They've tried everything.
They've tried the anti-Semitic thing.
I think we know that's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
It's like the old racism thing or homophobic.
Where is it going next?
Where?
How is it going to pick up speed?
It can't stay like this forever.
I predict very frankly, Erica will be asked to go home.
They're going to give her a copy of the home game and they're going to say, that's it.
You've done this enough.
You've done.
This is not your strong suit.
Please take some time off, spend some time with your family, and move on.
Jamie said, I keep telling this stuff and going back to church, but I haven't.
Been reading my Bible and praying more, though.
Excellent.
Listen, there's no prescription for any of this stuff.
There's no prescription for anything.
Believe it or not, sometimes I'd love to hear just philosophy.
I love to hear somebody thinking, somebody explaining something beyond the usual storyline.
And also, make sure you fight everything.
Remember, number one, the separation of church and state, even though it's not in the Constitution, is the best thing to defend and to protect the church.
Because the moment you blend the two together, you've got problems.
Big, big, big problems.
Big problems.
You do not want the government ever to be in charge of religion.
Period.
Now, religion can talk about government, but government should not talk about religion.
I don't.
The establishment clause, I think, has been watered down and means pretty much nothing.
It's for religion's own good.
In any event, dear friends, did you listen to, did you listen to?
I mean that sincerely.
King of the Cowboys.
Listen to King of the Cowboys.
And then tell me tomorrow how much you love it.
It's the most beautiful song in the world.
I watched you when I was a kid.
You taught me how to be a man.
Oh my God.
Kids today cannot understand cannot reflect on this notion.
In any event, dear friends, thank you.
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