Erika Kirk’s "phony plastic" persona mirrors past media figures like Rosie O’Donnell, Oprah Winfrey, and Ellen DeGeneres—criticized for abandoning authenticity in favor of political grandstanding or performative fundraising tied to insincere faith-based claims. TPUSA’s focus on spectacle over substance, including a staged casket photo with her late husband Charlie, fuels skepticism about its mission-driven programs like schools or orphanages, which allegedly never materialized despite promises. Her dismissive handling of his death and Tyler Robinson’s disputed story highlight a pattern of PR cluelessness, contrasting sharply with Lynn’s Warriors’ tangible impact on human trafficking and child predation trials in California. The episode reveals how performative activism and exploitation of tragedy can backfire, exposing the psychology behind public trust erosion. [Automatically generated summary]
The first title of this was Why We Hate Erica Kirk.
Then I thought, no, we can't do that because people will think we hate her, but that's what the title says.
Because we do, but we don't hate her.
But we do.
We hate the image.
We don't know her.
But we can't stand this phony plastic thing.
So I changed it to why they hate.
Sounds better.
But when I say they, I mean we.
And I don't know who she is.
I've never met her.
I'm sure she's a fine person deep down the site.
She's probably like everybody I've met my entire life who, when you scratch beneath the surface, there's just a little girl trying to make a big name.
I understand.
Same thing for men, too.
This is not meant to be sexist.
But you know these types.
If you haven't met these sets, look, I've been in New York now forever.
I've been in the entertainment business forever.
My wife's been in the entertainment business and Broadway and movies.
You put everything together.
We've got like 100 years of knowing bullshit, and we are experts at this.
I mean, we should be, we should have a laboratory.
We should have an analysis of this.
We've met every kind you can imagine.
And I've met this, and I presume it, and I understand it.
So when I hate, when I say hate, it's like I hate pimento loaf.
I hate golf.
I hate, it's a word.
I know it's overused.
I know, but I use it.
I, because I don't, I think we use the word love too much.
You don't mind that, right?
Well, maybe we use the word hate too much, but that's, that means I really dislike.
All right, now that I got that meaningless introduction out of the way, that pro-em, that prolegaminon, that praisey, that prefatory note, let's get down to brass tacks.
I want to give you an example of why this story fascinates me.
As you know, this week, I think last time I heard, oh, Candace is coming back, and well, I don't know, but when it hits the fan, it's going to be colossal, all right?
Because it's, I mean, it's just, and we can't wait for it.
We can't wait for it.
And I was asked by a friend to say, what is with the story with Erica Kirk?
I said, just spend any amount of time and you will know immediately what happens.
But let me give you an example of what I know.
This is three perfect examples.
Rosie, Oprah, and Ellen.
Okay?
By the way, hang on.
I know you say those three names, but there was a time when they were loved.
When Rosie O'Donnell had her show, E-I-E-I-O.
No, when she had her show, she was loved.
She loved Broadway and she loved, oh my God, they weren't even sure whether she was gay.
It didn't matter, but the crowds loved her.
Remember this.
She was just, she had sticks on and she loved the music and she had cultivated this.
I mean, they loved her.
She could have asked for anything.
Storm the Bastille.
Give me money.
Nothing.
They would have done anything.
They would have done anything.
In a kind of weird way, Wendy Williams, before she went off the reservation, before they drove her crazy, she was kind of sort of like that.
But let me tell you something.
Rosie O'Donnell, I know it's hard for you to understand, from her league of her own.
And she was even from the Flintstones, we liked her.
And when, you know, when she announced that she was gay, it wasn't really a surprise, but nobody, it didn't matter.
It didn't matter.
Okay.
Then something happened.
It happened.
What was it?
Tom Selleck.
Rosie decided, oh, no, no, I've got to get, I've got to get political.
See?
And it's like, you ruined it.
You idiot.
You idiot.
You had it made.
What are you doing?
Why are you doing this?
Nobody wants to hear your politics.
You're a schmuck.
You had it.
She threw it away.
Threw it all away.
It just, it was the most that ambush.
Remember that about the NRA or whatever it was?
It was terrible.
And the whole thing fell apart.
Then she was doing the view.
Okay, she was doing the view.
And then she was tearing into Elizabeth Hasselback, Hasselblot, whatever her name was.
She remembered that she was talking about building seven.
And she was right about building seven, but to say, not now.
She made me find her obnoxious.
And we theoretically agree with the same thing.
She turned in this obnoxious mode.
What happened to you?
Why did you do this?
I don't know.
Oprah.
Oprah was love.
I wanted to buy Yubicar and Yumica.
Remember when Oprah lost all the weight?
And oh my God.
And Stedman, nobody cared.
Gail, nobody cared.
They loved her.
She was the biggest thing.
I mean, and her weight, she, she, oh my God, she connected.
And I, if I didn't know better, and I know you can't say it, but I swear a lot of these people were darker than darker.
Beyonce, Oprah.
Okay, maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe it was the lighting.
Maybe it was the filters.
I always thought that later that they didn't have to do this because people, it goes to show you, people love authentic.
Be who you are.
Be who you are.
Just act whatever you are, whatever you look like.
Your weight, your skin tone, your hues, your hair.
It doesn't matter.
She was loved.
Oh my God.
Oprah could do anything.
And you know who loved her?
White women.
Black women too.
But she had all the paid demos.
And I hate to be so racial about it, but this is show business.
And if you want to get into business, you got to know how this thing works.
She had everybody.
She had the big ticket items.
She went, remember when she talked about one time she was sued, I think, by what the Chicago, what is it, the stockyards or the meat industry?
Because she says, I'm not going to eat me a burger with whatever the Upton Sinclair horror stories.
She was that.
She was so powerful that she might have created an entire industry.
I mean, she was huge.
And then, I don't know what happened.
She sold her soul to the devil.
And then it all changed with Obama and then this weird kind of leftist stuff.
And what she did with Megan, oh my God.
She basically provided a platform where Megan was saying that the royal family were racist and hairy.
Let me tell you something.
Oprah, be very careful.
But anyway, she just, I don't know what happened.
She just, but see, but nobody told Oprah.
Nobody told her to say, you're not loved anymore.
I don't know what you did, but you're not loved anymore.
Then Ellen, Ellen DeGeneres, as weird and strange and baphomet, you know, praising, or I'm just using this.
She's linked to every kind of demonic Luciferian thing you can.
I mean, she's just, remember the picture of the volleyball thing with Tom Hanks and this and that, and her staff hates her, and everybody hates her.
And she left the country but didn't and came back.
And then she's gay.
Another one, I'm gay.
Nobody cares.
They're the only ones who think they're coming out.
It's like when Melissa Edwards, remember her album, her CD, Yes I Am, should have been called no shit.
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It's like, do they think we're stupid?
Look, it doesn't matter, but do you really think you do you really think, I mean, isn't the idea of coming out, if they even do that anymore, if they come, there's a lot more who are going to be coming out deliberately or not, but don't you think the idea of coming out is when it's a surprise?
John Wayne?
What?
Norman Schwartzka, Bob Dole?
What?
I'm trying to think of people that you would be surprised.
But has anybody ever come out, if they even do that, where you're even surprised?
Maybe even the transgenders.
We knew about Bruce Jenner, before he was Caitlyn, forever.
And everybody in the show business said, yep, he's and they said, you're out of your mind.
Maybe Middle America didn't know this.
But why do I bring these people up?
I bring them up because this is what you have.
You start off with something.
And that's what Erica Kirk did.
She turns in.
I don't know what she turned into.
I have no earthly idea.
And let me tell you something.
I don't know who this TPUSA crew is.
I don't know who these guys are.
But some of them are the creepiest, phoniest, plastic, insincere, shallow, synthetic, faux Christian, sputing, spewing this gibberish.
And it's almost as though the Lord sent you down to us.
Praise God.
It's like, it's almost, do you mean this?
Do you mean this?
When people start rolling in fundraising, it's the oldest trick in the book.
This goes back to Elmer Gantry and Face and the Crowd and Jim Banker.
When you start rolling fundraising into Jesus, I think it's blasphemous.
Blasphemous.
And how people are allowed to do this, I have no idea.
But that's it.
That's all they care about.
They never seem to care anything about what about the mission?
It's not the organization.
What about the mission?
Not how much money you've raised.
Not how big the organization is.
Not how, oh, the Lord sent you, Erica.
You're going to be the one to lead us into the, lead what?
Whatever it is we do.
What do you do?
You know, you know, stuff.
Money.
Raising money.
That's it.
That's it.
It's.
And they don't get it.
This is what Rosie, Oprah, Ellen, they didn't get it.
They morphed into this thing.
They had something so perfect.
All you have to do is set up like a calendar, a tickler, every week.
Force yourself to talk about something that you're giving away to help people.
Like this week, TPUSA is giving away Bibles or teaching materials or teaching women how to keep their babies, those who have found themselves pregnant.
Do something.
What do they ever do other than talk about their organization and how much money they raised and how great, how great Erica is, and she's fantastic.
And if I sat down with them and said, do you see what I'm saying?
They'll look at you and they say, no, what?
Because they're so involved in this bubble.
They don't understand it.
And it's going to crush them.
And they forget what they're saying.
And that's why Candace is going to blow this thing up with their own words, their own negligence.
Listen, I've seen this.
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And what you do is people say, well, you know, you know, you, do you really, do you really think it's this important?
Let me ask you something.
Do you think Prince Andrew's important?
Do you?
Everybody's talking about that?
Do you really think there's something that everybody's known about Prince Andrew forever?
Do you think that's a big deal?
Do you think it is?
Do you?
Some people do.
Why isn't this a big deal?
You think Epstein's a big deal?
Epstein's a big deal.
They've been talking about Epstein.
Nothing's going to happen with Epstein.
Nothing ever happens.
Oh, we got some emails here and there.
We got some things about pizza.
We got some people.
Oh, look at this.
They were, you know, oh, is that, is that Ghelane?
Is she really, is she standing in line?
Is she out of prison?
Is that really her?
Is she alive?
Is Epstein alive?
Is Charlie alive?
And that's about it.
Doesn't really go anywhere.
But people talk about it.
This Nancy Guthrie case, is that important?
That's a dog of a case.
That's going.
That is.
I'm hearing things.
I don't even believe what I'm hearing.
I'm hearing stuff that goes beyond negligence, but deliberate negligence, if that makes this almost oxymoronic.
But anyway, is that going anywhere?
Is that important?
Is that important?
They got people talking about that 24 hours.
Is it?
Well, why isn't this important?
How is somebody, how is the assassination of one of the greatest youth leaders, one of the singular most important figures in American conservative politics, who revamped, retooled, reconfigured not only faith-based systems, but ways of recruiting younger people into the conservative lifestyle.
And pretty hardcore.
I mean, not just, he's not mildly conservative.
He was very, very serious.
And how is this person who was basically shot down in front?
You never saw a shot like that.
Think about this.
With the exception of the Zapruder film, which didn't make it until like 75.
We never saw that before.
This thing was, remember that?
No.
You have to remember.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
See how you forgotten?
And we've forgotten.
And that's by design because this has been an emphasis on the world of Erica.
And that's another reason why they hate her.
Because they say, you never talk about your husband.
You never talk about where he was buried.
You never talk about anything.
You never talk.
The way you camped up, I have received, read the comments, some of the great comments from people who've said people who were widows who said they would have never put this campy schmaltz picture, basically trying to camp up and theatricize, if that's a word, of her hunched over, collapsed over the casket, holding Charlie's hand.
Even his hand, I thought, was so disrespectful.
Even in death, even in death, have you have, isn't there any dignity?
You're basically using this as, I can't believe it.
That's the, that's the, the kabuki dance, the theater, that's the choreographed.
That's the theatrical erica.
That's the insincere Erica.
And you want to know why people can't stand her.
They can't stand her.
Because of what we're seeing.
And she doesn't understand what this phony put that, goddamn, if I see that, I think she's lost a handkerchief.
It's a prop.
It's a joke.
You don't even realize it.
And nobody around her, they're so into their own thing about in the name of Jesus.
Now, I'm not mimicking Christianity.
Don't get me wrong.
But what I am mimicking is somebody who is used, and I've been around this my whole life.
I've studied faith healers and evangelicals and people who've made money from, I was personally slain by Ernest Azley.
I studied this like you can't believe.
And they all follow the same story.
They turn your faith and your love of Christ and your Christianity.
They use that as a wedge or as a cudgel, if you will, to get you to cough up money for them.
When Oral Roberts one time said, they're going to call me home.
Jesus is going to call me home unless I raise the money.
Meaning, there's a hit on me from Jesus.
He's going to kill me unless I raise this money.
Remember that one?
I remember those.
Jimmy Swaggard, Jim Baker, go down.
Just, I mean, so I know what I'm talking about.
And it's the oldest grift in the book.
And all they have to do, let me ask you a question.
Name one big program they've done.
Name one big.
Have they ever had a school that have opened?
By the way, whenever we have a school, Oprah, Haiti, whenever we hear about that, Erica, Romania, whenever we hear about orphanages, in view of what's going on with Epstein, I don't know what that's about.
And Erica with the DMs and the 15-year-old.
Has that ever been disputed?
Has that ever been rebuffed?
Rebuffed, refuted?
Has that ever been rebutted?
Disproved?
This is unbelievable.
And if you sat down, I could see sitting in front of her chair to chair and saying, look at me.
Do you not understand this?
And she would look at you like, what are you talking about?
I'm Erica.
They love me.
No, they don't love you.
They hate you.
An excessive word, maybe, but you're a fraud.
You're a phony.
They can't stand you.
And every now and then, there'll be some, I guess, I don't even know their names, you know what?
And bless their heart, they're entitled to make a buck too.
But somebody will come along and say, you know, I got to get involved on this and this thing.
And I'm going to take the pro-Erica move.
And there's one guy who had, I don't know what, her friend.
It was the lamest.
It's like, what are you doing?
Both of them are trying to promote themselves under the ostensible guise of pretending, how do I say, of helping her.
In any event, in any event.
I've never, I can't believe how tone deaf, how tone deaf, how blind, how without any sense of, I don't know what the word is.
What am I saying?
What do I say?
What do I say?
What's the word?
Without any sense of connection to reality.
They don't know how they're coming across.
Nobody sits back and says, whoa, I'm watching your depiction and your storyline, and you're blowing it.
That's why they can't stand her.
That's why they hate her.
And that's what I'm trying to tell you.
And I'm sorry if that's a strong word, but it's true.
And all I know is it's going to get real nasty.
It's going to get real nasty because, like an idiot, she decided to go up to Candace Owens and say, stick your thumb in her eye.
Good luck.
Now it's going to get personal.
And now it's going to get nasty.
And she is absolutely 100% upset.
And she is without a doubt going to lay you out.
And there's nothing you can do.
And you won't get it.
You won't get it.
And little by little, all of those people, all of the cable news that just threw this weird kind of obeisance, this patellar obeisance, the way they would just, all of them, all of them would just, or they're just going to say, you know what, this is too hot.
This is just too hot.
This isn't working out.
And then one day, you and some of those creepy TPUSAers are going to say, we had it and we blew it.
And meanwhile, you never talk anything about Charlie.
You never talk anything about the fact.
And by the way, while we're on it, nobody believes a Tyler Robinson story.
Nobody.
Nobody.
Come on.
Stop it.
Stop it.
See, they don't know who we are.
They really don't know.
They think we're the cable news people.
They think we're all fungible, where we're all alike, where we're basically indistinguishable from the other.
Where we are very, very different.
And we hate lying.
It's nothing personal, Erica.
We hate lying.
We hate insincere and we hate inauthentic.
And we hate people who lie to us.
And there are a lot of us who really felt terribly when Charlie was slaughtered and shot down like a dog.
And you never even talk about him.
The only thing you do is to remind people, oh, yeah, send them money.
Remember Charlie?
Yeah, okay, good.
That's it.
It's blasphemous.
It's sacrilege.
It is heretical.
I don't know what the word is.
It's beyond enough.
And that is why people can't stand you.
Maybe hate's a strong word.
I don't think so.
It's an expression.
It's like nuclear.
It's like irregardless.
Sometimes through a period of overuse, even though incorrect, it becomes acceptable.
So I thank you.
Thank you for your great, your comments are unbelievable.
Your comments, please, I read them.
They're just, and every now and then somebody will wade on in and say, you know, you're, you're, I don't know, they'll say something like, you don't know what you're talking about, or some lame support of the Erica movement.
And then you will just pounce.
It's beautiful.
It's a thing of beauty.
So thank you for that.
Oh, the way, by the way, thank you for following my beloved wife at Lynn's Warriors.
I told you right now, what is going on, the battle, far more important, far more critical, far more life and death is what is happening to our children.
What is happening in the world of human trafficking, what is happening also regarding child predation and digital predation and how kids are being destroyed online.
And right now, there's a very, very serious trial going on in California regarding almost a product's liability case dealing with the issue of whether some of these social media platforms are addictive.
They got all the big names there.
And she has been on the phone with and has had on her show on Lynn's Warriors on YouTube.
Lynn's Warriors, she's had those parents on.
So many people who have been the victim of, they're not big names, but they're big numbers of people who have been just devastated and destroyed by this seemingly innocuous social media platform.
So thank you for following Lynn's Warriors on YouTube.
And thank you for your thoughts and comments.
I've got some questions for you to follow up on.
Please, please listen to what I'm saying.
And by the way, if this is not your cup of tea, I understand it.
There's other things to talk about.
You can talk about one other thing.
But this is something which is very, very serious.
And by the way, it's also a study in human nature, in psychology, in PR.
And it's also a study in cluelessness.
So my friends, I thank you.
I wish you nothing but the best.
Thank you for your kindness and your love and your graciousness.