Has the Epstein Fight Been a Fraud From the Start?
Jeffrey Epstein’s case exposed long-ridiculed claims of pedophile networks, now validated by figures like Candace Owens, who the speaker calls the most influential voice on digital platforms. Turning Point USA’s collapse is blamed on an alleged "inside job" assassination of Charlie Kirk, with Erica Kirk—his widow—accused of grooming a 15-year-old via explicit texts mirroring FBI profiler John Douglas’ documented tactics. The media’s focus on Nancy Guthrie’s abduction and Pam Bondi’s congressional testimony is dismissed as a distraction from Epstein’s systemic ties, while Trump’s handling is framed as superficial. The fight continues, urging action to protect children and future leaders, with "the monkey’s dead" as a cryptic warning of deeper consequences. [Automatically generated summary]
We, and I think I can speak for all of us, I think, I will tell you, as leader of this particular enclave, we are not people who are bound by traditional conservative ideology.
That's not our thing.
That's not what we're into.
We believe in truth.
Yes, there are some fundamentals that we stick to, absolutely without a doubt, fundamentals, but we are not your prototypical paleo conservative group of people.
That is not who we are.
And it's critical that everybody understand that.
We believe in the truth.
We will not be lied to.
We understand reality.
We're not babes in the woods.
We're not children.
We're not innocent people.
We understand how things are.
And sometimes, as you know, in life, things are tough.
Things are strange.
Right now, there are a number of factors that are happening.
Number one, and there is a brand new video I just did, and I want you to listen to this.
This is a Barnberger.
TPUSA is collapsing because the majority of the people involved believe that Charlie Kirk was assassinated via an inside job.
Can't be any clearer than that.
Inside job.
Everything that we have been saying for years as part of our as part of our group, everything that we've done for years, everything that we've said regarding our ways of thinking, all of this.
We have used words like inside job and false flag and a variety of things.
And what's interesting to note, which is more critical, what's really critical to understand is that we were laughed at for the longest time.
And the reason why we were laughed at is because it was true.
It was true.
And because it was true, this is important, because it was true, people didn't want to hear anything about it.
So now for the first time in a long time, there are a bunch of people who are coming forward and they're saying, wait a minute, that's exactly what we feel.
That's exactly what we, that's what we believe without a doubt.
And I am telling you right now, starting with this one premise, because we have a number of these, think of them as vectors moving in.
But there are a number of people who say that is exactly what we feel.
That is precisely what we feel.
That's it.
Now, keep in mind a couple of things here.
The reason why we are told not to think this is because they're true.
It's critical that you understand that.
Critical that you grasp this.
The reason why they are telling you not to think this is because it is true.
And there are people out there who want to do everything but keep you aware.
They are trying everything in their power to distract you.
The case in point, one of the most ridiculously obvious examples is the abduction or kidnapping, or I hope not murder of Nancy Guthrie.
This is a joke.
This is a joke.
It's ridiculous.
It is Keystone cops.
It is, I feel sorry for her.
There are clues that mean nothing.
They introduce pictures of people in ringtones, people with guns hanging out of their belts, wearing oven mitts, banging on their grabbing foliage and grass to cover up a nest.
I mean, it has taken the world by storm, excuse me, the news media, because it's simple.
It is ridiculously stupid.
It's obvious.
And more importantly, it's something that, for lack of a better word, it's something that doesn't take any intellectual heft.
There's nothing you have to know.
It's easy.
It's kind of like a true crime meet something.
That's that.
Number two.
Pam Bondi appeared before Congress and it was one of those things that there was a part where we said, I said, good, at least you're giving something back.
When you get a chance at that cafe, not now, but at your leisure.
I say, I made it.
I made some Joe and I forgot to get it.
Anyway, anyway.
This is this.
Let me see if I can say this.
It was a cluster like you can't believe.
It was kind of funny.
Thank you.
It was kind of funny.
It was kind of a bit opprobrious, a bit raucous, a bit contumacious.
It was a lot of things, but it was unnecessary.
And what was the ultimate reason?
What was the ultimate result of it?
Hiding the truth regarding Epstein.
Distraction, confusion, limiting you to what it really means, dropping little crumbs and morsels and breadcrumbs, diversion, confusion, changing your direction.
That is exactly what's happening.
And that is precisely what's going on.
And you and others have said, we want the truth.
What is happening here?
You want to know when are people going to be held accountable?
When are people, when will heads roll?
What does the government need in terms of finding somebody criminally culpable?
What must happen?
And it's something that for the longest time, remember this.
Remember not too long ago, there was a belief that if you were one of these crazy people who believes in pedophile rings or PDF file, whatever they love this, whatever this particular jargon is, that if you believe this, that you were sick, you were demented, you were dangerous, you were crazy, you were out of your mind, out of your mind.
You were told this.
Lay off this.
Stop with these networks.
What is the matter with you?
You were told this.
You were told this repeatedly.
You were told to believe this.
You were told, stop thinking this.
There's something wrong with you.
And they also made it sound like you had some kind of a penchant de penchant towards these ideas of lunacy.
There you are again, always with this focus on this craziness.
What is the matter with you?
Remember that?
This is what they told you.
This is what they told you specifically.
And they thought, you're going to believe it.
And they almost had you until Epstein came along.
And then I don't know.
Does Trump know enough?
Is Trump involved?
Is he covering for his friends?
What about Ludnik?
It's not, nobody's talking about going merely to an island.
Nobody's talking about that.
Talking about something a little bit more dangerous than this.
That's what this is about.
And you're disgusted by this and you want answers.
And nobody's coming to your help.
Nobody.
Who were these people?
Who were these children?
Where are the tapes?
Where are the recordings?
Where's the hard drives?
Where's the thumbnails?
Where is this?
You have a right to know this.
You've been told this repeatedly and you've been laughed at.
And they don't care what you think.
Then they turned around, these people.
This is the most important.
They decided that it would be really kind of funny, so to speak.
In fact, they didn't even care.
They didn't care one way or another about anything that you thought.
They don't care about what you think.
You have to understand this.
They don't care.
So, what they did was they decided to have a bunch of emails.
And in those emails, they thought that they would use code words, code words that, well, everybody knew, at least they knew.
And they didn't even understand.
They didn't give you the courtesy of asking, why are you even using code words?
What is the point of code words?
What do you, well, it doesn't matter because they didn't care about you.
You mean nothing.
Don't you understand?
They're the elites.
They're John Podesta.
They're others.
They're Abramovich.
They're Bill Gates.
You're nothing to them.
Nothing.
They don't owe you any explanation.
Shut up.
Go away.
Or we'll shut you down.
We'll demonetize you.
We'll teach you a thing or two.
Just look the other way.
This is our talking.
This is our club, and you're not invited, as George Carlin would say.
So they did this.
Do you know when that this when WikiLeaks first came about?
And again, they don't even care, but when WikiLeaks first happened, thank God for Julian Assange.
When WikiLeaks first happened and people started to decode these, people were saying, What is all this talk about?
Pizza.
Remember that?
Remember that?
What's this talk about pizza?
What is it?
In 4chan and Reddit and in some pedo circles, the people who actually came forward describing this and explaining this were these very people.
They did it.
They came forward.
And they said, we'll tell you what that is.
We know exactly what that is.
We know what that is.
We'll tell you.
How about that?
Now, as it started, as it continued, this next batch, remember, remember that was WikiLeaks.
Now, with Epstein files, they're still there.
These are files that the FBI had.
Where did these files come from?
From the FBI.
Why didn't they do something about it?
When you have pictures of children crying, when you have Prince Andrew hovering over some woman who, I don't know if she's unconscious or whatever, when you have known, known underage people, where was our FBI?
Candace Owens' Popularity Puzzle00:05:11
What's happening here?
It's one of those things I don't understand.
And I got to tell you something.
I've got to, I've got to explain something.
We have had it.
And if you see the latest brouhaha kerfuffle with Préjean Bowler over this thing called, not called, Zionism and Christianity.
Did you see that?
Do you know what's going to happen?
Do you know what's going to happen?
Do you know what happens when that hits the fan?
Do you see the thunderclouds coming?
Maybe you've been following this so closely, you don't see this.
Oh, no, no, no.
We've got, we're going to have, there's going to be some very serious problems regarding midterms.
And if the Democrats take the house and send it back again, if that's possible, if they do, Trump's going to get, Trump's going to get impeached again.
And this time they might be, you know.
Trump doesn't have the Kevlar he used to have.
He doesn't have the Kevlar.
He doesn't have the bulletproof veneer to him.
He doesn't have it.
It's a different world.
He doesn't have that, how do I say that?
That protection.
Before, he was so loved and so powerful and so incredible that he seemingly could say anything he wanted.
Anything.
And nobody cared.
Nobody.
Nobody cared in the least.
Those days are over.
Okay.
Those days are over.
So understand what we've got here.
We've got this.
Oh, this is incredible.
We have the Pergine case, the Zionism argument, APAC, America first, all this stuff.
That's over here.
Then we have whether Charlie was succumbed by an inside job.
That's that.
Then you have something which is even more important.
A woman who is completely and totally and absolutely without any merit, without any sincerity whatsoever.
Her name is Erica Kirk.
So full of shit.
I mean, it 100% 18 carat.
I don't think, I don't know what she believes in.
And people said, you know, I don't know whether that's a big deal.
And people said at first, be nice to her.
She's a widow.
Shut up.
That's over with.
Not only that, the people who are leaving TPUSA in droves who believe this might have been an inside job are looking no further than her.
They're saying, what did you do?
What did you know?
The thing which is happening now, thanks to Candace Owens.
Let me tell you something.
You may not like this.
It's the truth.
This is a fact.
The most powerful person today on the informational or news platforms, whatever you want to call it, the most powerful person is Candace Owens.
Powerful.
Powerful.
Joe Rogan may have more people listening.
And Joe Rogue is great, by the way.
I'm a huge fan of that man.
He has transformed everything and deserves every bit of success that he has and enjoys.
Every bit of it.
Understanding.
I cannot say that enough.
He deserves everything.
What's interesting to note is as follows, if Candace Owens turns her popularity into something like, all right, folks, let's go forward.
Let's attack.
Let's vote.
Let's work on Moss.
It changes everything.
She's the biggest, the most powerful, the angriest, in a good way, bravest.
Tucker has great things, but he's a little bit here, a little bit there, and he moves on to something else.
Oh, he says that the ghost moves on over here.
Oh, here's something about, I was attacked by a demon, moves over here.
There's nothing.
He doesn't hang around long enough to cause a problem.
Okay.
And that's it.
The others in our regime, in our realm, they're not there.
Nobody.
Nobody.
That's it.
He was the chance.
He was the hope.
That's it.
That's it.
Candace Owens, number one.
Number one.
And they're telling her she's crazy and she's a lunatic and she's nuts.
Candace Owens' Case00:04:23
She's absolutely, she's crazy.
She's devoid of any kind of, she's a lunatic.
She's crazy, cray cray to the to the nth degree.
Uh-huh.
They actually say this.
They actually believe this.
And they say this, hoping somehow that you'll believe it.
And what she has done is she has taken this case.
She is the only person who has cared about Charlie because most people don't care about him.
They don't care.
Up to and including that wife of his, who doesn't say anything.
The only thing she cares about, the only thing she's ever cared about, the only thing she's ever cared about ever, ever is herself.
Her looks, her beauty, and the thing that is going to be the end of her.
That is, remember, I know this about people.
If there is an issue which is important, if there's an issue which is very, very critical, don't go for something that is too, don't go for something that is too academic.
Don't go for things like something where you do a lot of thinking.
Give me something that's easy, something easy peasy, something very, very simple.
And here's one for you.
When shortly after Erica had won whatever this stupid contest was, she somehow, it doesn't really matter how, she somehow became text buddies with or text mates with a 15-year-old girl, 15, 15-year-old girl.
She was 25 at the time.
You hear what I'm saying?
25.
And at 25, when you, and we have these messages there, and you've got to read them.
You got to read them for yourself.
You got to see for yourself.
You got to think, oh my God.
She was a predator.
She zoomed in to groom.
She did everything you can imagine by praising her.
You're so beautiful.
You're so gorgeous.
Making reference to lady gardens and obvious without, you don't need to know anything about any kind of slang or idioms.
She was obviously referring to erotic jokes, references, and the like to an impressionable girl, 15 years old, feeling kind of old, feeling kind of down, feeling kind of whatever it is, whose father she had not seen in two years, who was bereft and in need of some kind of, some kind of direction.
And oh, Erica figured that one out.
She knew this.
She is the perfect groomer.
That's exactly what they do.
She moved right in for the kill.
Oh, it was beautiful.
And she was, and you can see it.
Candace, by the way, spoke to her recently and said, asked her, what about this?
Ladies, if you're watching right now, I want you to think about this.
I want you to think of the time when you were a teen.
You were coming out of childhood, out of adolescence, and you're moving kind of into womanhood.
Now, you might, some of you might have looked older.
You might have appeared older.
You might have been physically, we used to say the old words developed, but deep down inside, you were still a child.
You were very young, very immature, very, very amenable to distortion and to brainwash.
Because your executive functions weren't focused yet.
Your judgment centers weren't there.
Your self-esteem had not really hadn't settled or solidified.
You were very susceptible, very vulnerable, very, very vulnerable.
So the question then becomes, okay, so what happens?
How does this thing work?
Well, let me tell you how it works, which is really important.
She knew this.
Let me tell you about groomers, which are very, very important.
Groomers and Vulnerability00:02:49
I interviewed somebody one time.
He was very good.
His name was John Douglas.
John Douglas, as you may or may not know, was the, he was the main, if you will, not deep programmer.
He was a main person who profile, the main profiler for the FBI.
He was actually one of the original profilers at Quantico.
He was Scott Glenn's character in Silence of the Lamb was based on him.
And years ago, I asked him one time.
He was a great guest, a fantastic.
He doesn't really do too much anymore.
But I said, how, tell me the way, tell me the way a predator works.
Tell me, and we didn't refer to them as pedo or PDF files or whatever.
But I said, but tell me.
And he said, well, he said, the first thing you got to understand is you would always go to where the kids were.
You go to where the prey is.
This is what a hunter does.
You make sure you're, if you're a fisherman, you make sure you're in the right waters.
You make sure you're in the right woods.
You use the right bait at the right time of day.
If they're nocturnal, you know your prey better than anybody.
And you know what makes them tick and you know what they need.
And he said, and he says, let me give you an example.
And to show you how long ago this was, he gave the idea of when he was, if he could be in a hypothetical game room.
Remember that folks at the mall?
There were game room.
Remember, I used to play Missile Command.
And this is in law school, but I love the, I just love that.
It was fun.
The days of Pac-Man and, you know, Lady Pac-Man, these kind of stuff.
Maybe even, believe it or not, pinball and what have you.
So he would walk in the hypothetical and he'd look around and he would see the one kid who maybe wasn't talking to somebody.
Maybe a boy overweight.
Maybe somebody who didn't have any friends.
Maybe somebody who was there wanting to be included but wasn't.
Just standing around.
So what he did was he said, I'm going to wait.
And he said, in his hypothetical, he'd walk over to some kid.
It's kind of creepy just to say it.
And he would say, hey, listen, I've got some extra coins for you.
I don't really need these.
Why don't you try this?
And nothing overt, nothing salacious.
Nobody would have even noticed that.
It was a different world.
Today we're a little bit more, I think, into it.
And when he did it, what he would do was he would probably say afterwards, whatever the kid did, hey, you're pretty good.
You are pretty good.
You've done this before.
You've got a real talent.
You're good.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
Praise, support, confidence.
Losing Faith Gently00:08:34
Just what the doctor ordered.
They know exactly what to do.
They know kids better than you do.
They would be the best counselors if they weren't like this because they would know exactly what to say.
They would know exactly how to move in for the kill.
They know exactly what kids want.
It's sickening.
And when I read the text messages between Erica and this young girl, I thought, my God, that's it.
You can read the words of a predator.
Like you cannot believe.
Davis Kenneth says, any other CEO would be forced to step down.
Absolutely.
Thank you for that, my friend.
Yes.
And she will be.
She will be.
She will be.
I guarantee you.
She goes first, and then TPUSA crumbles after that.
They're done.
They're dead.
They're finished.
But people are looking at this.
Now, this is a woman of God.
This is a woman who talks about how she's going to spread the word of the Lord.
This is a woman who is the mother.
I don't want to question her paternal or maternal skills.
I don't know.
We don't know.
Who knows?
But do you ever hear her talk about them?
No.
It's about herself.
And when you read this, I promise you, you will not believe what you're saying.
You can't.
You can't react to it like this.
So understand where we are right now.
This is the mindset of the country.
Epstein.
Disappointment.
Pam Bondi, not even answering questions.
Why haven't you prosecuted people?
Why?
And she's bringing up stuff about Richard Blumeth all he lied about Vietnam, which is true.
So-and-so said this, which is true.
But that didn't answer the question.
And some people, you might be included, some people look at this as some form of contempt for you.
Like you can be fooled into thinking that you that you, by virtue of the subject matter of what's being done, that you might be in the position where, where, where you are satisfied by that.
You are satisfied by that.
That's what they might think.
So you have that.
I mentioned before the Pragine, the Zionism Middle East argument.
Okay, here are the levels.
You've got Epstein, you've got that one.
You also have this disgust that people are having with stop distracting us regarding this Nancy Guthrie case.
This is unseemly.
We were sorry at first.
It's a terrible thing that happened to her.
They must be beside themselves, but we're not stupid.
And finally, there are people like you who realize this was an inside job.
And they don't know what to do.
And my friends, these people have been so used to saying, well, you know, shut Candace down, shut her down, shut down her.
In the old days, they would have just shut down her YouTube channel.
I mean, it would have been just clap.
She would have violated some kind of community standard or something.
And that would have made things more difficult.
Don't kid yourself.
That is the number one platform.
I know people watch Rumble and that's great, but the number one platform absolutely is that.
But they're not doing that anymore.
So this is important.
This is critical, my friends.
I want you to understand this and grasp this.
I'm not just saying this.
I'm not trying to be, I have never, well, I haven't been this excited in a long time because the shit's going to hit the fan so fast, so hard, it's going to splatter everywhere.
And I'm telling you, this is what's happening.
Remember, a few years ago, if you dared suggest that there was some kind of a PDF file, I know people love this.
I think it's stupid.
Some network around the world, you were considered crazy.
I mean, really, really crazy.
You were considered nuts.
And now that is precisely what's going on.
And let me also tell you something.
There's a lot of people who are saying this.
They're saying, look, I may not be the most connected politically.
I may not know exactly what's going everywhere, but I will tell you this much.
Whatever Candace tells us to do, we'll do it.
Whomever she directs us to to vote for, we'll do it.
She's our Charlie now.
She's it.
She's brave.
She's gutsy.
She's taking on the enemies.
She's the only one taking on these people.
Who else is doing it?
Who else?
Who else?
Nobody.
Oh, they'll talk about it for a day or two, but then they'll kind of just move on.
Let me, let me, and to leave, to speak to your language.
People are talking about things from Baphomet to Baal to Luciferian and satanic references that they have not mentioned in decades, decades.
And people are hearing it for the first time.
There is a new cultivation, a new crop of conspiratorium members.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Do you understand this?
There is a new crop.
The word conspiracy theory will go away, like the word groovy.
It'll just go away.
It'll be almost a joke.
It will be proven to be so useless in terms of a term, in terms of a word, like nobody has ever seen.
I'm telling you.
So do not lose your faith.
Do not lose your faith.
Continue on.
Focus on.
I'm telling you, wait.
Mr. President, I don't know what you're doing.
I love you, man, but you are blowing this Epstein thing.
Maybe you just can't do it.
Maybe you've got too many friends or too many people or too many business deals that.
But if you don't, if you don't, if you think that the Epstein case is the top of the, you know, the pyramid, so to speak, it's nothing.
It's nothing.
That's just a little sample.
It's an amuse bouche.
It's a little aurt, a little sampling, an hors d'oeuvre.
That's all it is.
Because the world is so horrible and so sickening, you can't even imagine.
You can't put, and the number one, the number one quarry, so to speak, of these predators are our children.
So I thank you for that.
Keep up the fight.
Don't lose faith.
Don't ever become disappointed, dispirited.
Don't.
I'm telling you, keep the fight going.
Thank you for following us.
Thank you for following my wife, Lynn Shaw at Lynn's Warriors.
Your support means what she's doing is probably the most important work of anybody because it's trying to protect children who are going to be the next groups of leaders.
And what's happening right now is you've got to get on your on your own platforms, sign up for X or whatever, speak up.
Don't wait for somebody to call you.
Don't think that your involvement is listening to a podcast or liking something.
No, no, no.
That's passive.
You've got to be in the vanguard.
You've got to tell people what it is that you are concerned with.
Speak up.
I am telling you.
You got that?
Good.
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