On Super Bowl Sunday in freezing Hell’s Kitchen, the speaker dismisses Bad Bunny’s halftime show as "the biggest piece of shit" ever while pivoting to Epstein’s alleged horrors uncovered on X, calling them "so sick." They then attack Savannah Guthrie for neglecting her sister Virginia’s case, mocking law enforcement’s incompetence—like the sheriff at a basketball game—and hint at hidden evidence like nest cameras. Focusing on Erica Kirk, they claim she’s "phony," prioritizing Israel over Charlie Kirk’s murder, and speculate his death was faked, comparing it to Kennedy Jr., bin Laden, or Epstein’s alleged disappearances. With AI deepfakes and biometric manipulation, they argue, a "double" could evade scrutiny, yet transparency remains rare, leaving narratives unchallenged despite absurdity. [Automatically generated summary]
Hey, live from New York City in the bowels of Hell's Kitchen, 11 degrees, ladies and gentlemen.
And it is colder than a well digger's ass.
I'm telling you, we are having some kind of fun.
Ladies and germs, don't even know where to start.
But first of all, welcome, and I'm glad you could be here.
Glad you could join us because I'm kind of digging this evening thing.
We'll take this for a while, see how it goes.
Let me fill you in on a number of stuff.
Before we get to Erica Kirk, unbelievable, unbelievable.
Couple of things here.
First, I've watched nothing of the Super Bowl.
Nothing.
Except, except bad bunny.
The biggest piece of shit.
Pardon my French, but that's a term of art.
P-O-S in the history of mankind.
I had to watch it.
And I'm looking at Mrs. L like, what is this?
Now, I'm pretty good.
I'm pretty good at extrapolating something artful.
I can see a lot of good things.
I might say, hey, you know, that's kind of an interesting, you know, but this, oh, no, no.
This, this was so stupid.
It, it, it, it definitely.
No, you know what it is?
It was an insult to stupid.
It was beyond stupid.
It was not only not good, it was boring and it was stupid.
I think the word, the operative word here is stupid.
Don't don't hold me to it.
But the word is stupid.
It's like nothing I've ever seen or could even imagine.
Unbelievable.
This is a part of some kind of, I guess, an attempt on somebody's part to change the course of something.
I don't know what it was.
And then somebody texted me, hey, why don't you watch Kid Rock instead?
I've never seen Kid Rock for a second.
I don't even know what Kid Rock does.
I'm not trying to be rude.
I just, that ain't my cup of tea one way or the other.
But all I know is it was a disaster.
Absolutely, positively, without a doubt.
I just have to just tell you, sometimes I see things and I say, well, you know, this might not be that great.
Or maybe I don't get it.
Or maybe it's going to suit.
No.
This was devoid of anything, even remotely, remotely insinuating talent, entertainment, message.
It was a dog.
And I'm telling you, you know, everybody in the, everybody, everybody in that stadium must have said to themselves, what the hell are we, what are we watching?
What is the, dear God?
In any event, that was that.
Other than that, I don't care.
It's Bread and Circus is my friend, and I don't care.
I've never cared about it.
There was a time in the old days when I kind of like, you know, we used to watch the Super Bowl.
It kind of meant something.
The commercials were good.
The halftime we had, you know, the stones and whatever.
Now, and it's not because of age.
It's not because of age.
There's a lot of people I know, younger people than that particular generation who themselves say, what is this?
We don't know.
It was a disaster.
Absolutely a disaster.
Okay?
But so that's that.
Enough.
Now, next.
I've got to say this.
The Epstein matter.
If you're following on x if, if you're if, if you, if you, all you have to do.
These are the best collators, the best.
This is the best i've ever seen from people who are incredible, people who are bringing, going through and and and perusing every aspect of this at levels I never thought possible and I never knew how demanded this was.
This was, without a doubt.
And what I've seen is beyond anything I ever could imagine as being.
That's all I'm going to say.
It is so sick.
It is so.
What's the word?
Sick.
That I am telling you.
I am.
I can't even say it right now.
I can't even go through this.
Let me just tell you, if you've got some time and you want to see the depths of depravity, my dear friends, please spend a little time.
Go to X.
It just, you will be, you'll be gobsmacked at how horrible these people are.
That's that.
Next, again, tonight's like, what?
What?
The Nancy Guthrie case is beyond anything I've ever believed.
It is so bad.
I don't even know where to start.
I don't know where to start.
Are you watching tonight on WABC?
Overnights, my friend.
Oh yeah, tune into this.
It is, I read this, this, you heard, I'm not going to do it now.
We're not going to talk about that, but this Savannah Guthrie.
By the way, Savannah Guthrie treated Virginia's Euphrates like garbage.
Garbage.
She is no good.
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She is a part of that group.
What they did to her mother, let's remove her from that equation.
But don't think for one minute, she was also in that Matt Lauer.
You remember that whole Natalie Morales stuff?
She is up to her.
These people are all so corrupt.
It's not even funny.
But this is a tragedy.
But it is the biggest.
It is the most incompetent group of people.
Finally, they're going in the backyard and they're looking through.
They're looking into septic tanks.
They've got poles to look for a body.
Are you seeing this?
They never thought about this.
They never said, hey, let's go on the roof.
This woman had nest cameras, not ring.
I think Amazon puts out nest.
She never had this subscription.
Now they're going back to the sister's house.
It's a week.
It's a week.
Our good friend Steve said, Uncle Al, you are a Jesuit victim.
No wonder you are a retired Catholic.
Oh, no, Thank you for this.
The Jesuit priests never, they were wonderful.
It was.
I loved my, specifically my parochial education and the nuns.
The Jesuits, we only had mostly, a lot of our stuff were lay teachers, but it was always think for yourself.
I had one priest, by the way.
I said something.
I had one priest who wanted to flunk me on something because I had some pretty crazy ideas.
And the principal, the principal of the school went to bat for me and said, you can think whatever you want.
What happened in Venetian days with the Medicis and who knows?
But I've got no beef with them.
I'm a retired because I don't follow the rules.
I don't go to mass.
I don't go to holy days of obligation.
And I have become, well, I shouldn't say this, but I kind of came out years ago as being irreligious.
I never was really into it.
I just sort of, you know, I just thought, okay, maybe.
But I realized, I asked myself one day, I said, do I believe this stuff?
I was like, not really.
Not to mean it's not true.
I just don't, I'm just not going to say I am something when I'm not a follower.
But no, no, I've got no problems with them whatsoever.
I'm not saying it's never happened before, but thank you for this.
The biggest problems, parish priests.
The parish priest.
The parish priest.
There's one thing that we found out was when the Jesuits, because they have a, they're almost like the army.
They call them the Pope's Army, Ignatius Loyola, on my arm deglorium, the Pope's army.
They were more like military, and they were, they could move people and zap you.
And, you know, so in my entire time at Jesuit high school in Tampa, we never even heard of anybody, never, never.
And I'm not being an apologist.
It's just the truth.
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I'd tell you if it was the opposite.
But anyway, thank you very much.
So, but this Guthrie case, how about this?
How about this, this, this, this stupid sheriff who's at a basketball game?
This is the biggest case of his life.
Now, let's talk about the best one, Erica Kirk.
My friend, is there anybody today who has changed their mind and said, you know what?
I've done her wrong.
You know, I've had her all wrong.
I had her all wrong.
She is a delight.
She's an honest, sincere young lady who has nothing but the best interests of TPUSA and Charlie's legacy at heart.
She has absolutely no indication whatsoever of who might have been involved in his dispatch.
I've never seen there any being any evidence that maybe she was involved in anything.
But is there anyone here who has come along and said, you know what?
She's really something.
She had it right the whole time.
No.
And what about the latest with the 15-year-old girl?
The texting.
Have you seen this?
Have you seen this stuff?
Are you asking yourself, what is happening?
What is this about?
What is this about?
Doesn't it just blow your mind?
I'm seeing things right now, and I swear to you, I'm asking myself, is there any end to this?
Can I believe anybody?
Is there anybody I can believe?
Is there anybody I can believe?
Erica Kirk caught texting or sexting a 50.
I don't know about sexing.
Let me explain something, a couple of things here, my friends.
Please, I'm rather excited, first of all, being with you, which is always a good thing.
When there are people I know who are a little bit quick to say, if you are texting or sexting, first of all, a child, it is not right for an adult to be doing that to a child.
First of all, just the way it looks.
Just the way it looks.
Kids are special.
Stay away.
Stay away.
Today, I would advise everybody: if you're a parent, no sleepovers.
Don't let your kid go to a sleepover.
Don't let your kid go to a camp.
Don't let anybody over in your home because the first time somebody comes along and says, you know, Mr. So-and-so was acting weird, they will take the kid's words.
I have seen this, I mean, up front.
Sorry to say it, but it's true.
But anybody who was on a lie talking to a sexting, it's not sexting, texting a kid.
What is the matter with these people?
What is the matter with these people?
How stupid are you?
What is going on with this?
Stay away from them, especially kids who were looking to you as some kind of a father figure, mother figure, leader, I can't, I can't say it enough.
There is something so strange here, and I also know, and you know, this they're uncovering everything on Erica Kirk.
You know what she's like.
Anybody here remember Dynasty?
Remember Dynasty with whatever you know who I'm talking about.
Linda Evans and whatever the old Broad.
I can't think.
Remember that one?
Remember how we watch this up here every week?
I didn't really watch it when it was on.
But years later, it might have been during COVID.
I don't know.
We're watching these stupid shows.
And that was one of the best, best shows ever.
Alexis or whatever.
Joan Collins, thank you.
Remember how you loved the characters of the kind of like the conniving bitch.
You know what I mean?
The one that nobody could trust.
The one that you knew was, you know, Joan Collins.
You, you, you, there's this.
Well, this is watching.
Thank you, Big Dickie.
He says, I knew you were goons.
I knew, hang on a minute.
Let me get this right.
I knew you were goons.
Do the soaps.
Love you.
I knew you were goons.
Do the soaps.
Okay.
Thank you.
By the way, soaps in the old days, they were something.
You don't really have them anymore.
But just to follow the plot line was incredible.
But anyway, remember when there was this kind of like Cruella Devil, the evil stepmother, the one who's who you know, you read right through.
That's this Erica Curl.
And the new thing is, they're coming forth and they're saying, well, she was, she wasn't, she wasn't invited to Charlie's wedding.
I don't even know if it's true that she's jealous.
Look, let me explain something to you.
This woman is so phony.
Did you see recently, after she was talking about her husband had died, her husband had died, okay?
And at one particular point, she was saying on one clip that what kept her up at night, what made her weep, I'm thinking, yeah, this has got to be good.
What?
What, pray tell?
What kept you up at night?
What?
What wasn't?
She said, the way we treat Israel.
What that's your concern?
No, no, I'm not.
Please.
With all that's going on, that'd be like saying climate change or and this is where people say, if this Broad ain't being paid off, nobody is.
Who would say that?
Big Dick says, gonna do this soaps narrative.
Thank you, my friend.
It's big dick, by the way.
Thank you, my friend.
Who, do you notice this?
Steve says, best regards from England, Lionel.
Top of the morning to you, my dear friends.
What are you five, six hours again?
It must be two in the morning, right?
Two, two-ish?
Three-ish?
Anyway, thank you, my friend.
This is, this is, this is something.
Now, listen, the anti-Semitic thing is done.
Done.
Nobody is an anti-Semite.
There might be somebody.
I haven't met them.
I've not met anybody who basically has blood in their eye for Judaism.
Maybe they're there.
Maybe, maybe they're there.
Problems that you have with AIPAC or with not just a lobbying group, but a lobbying group where we're spending billions of dollars.
Does not, you know, this is an axiomatic.
This does not make you anti-Semitic.
Okay, fine.
What's interesting to note is that we're past that.
That's over with.
And she's still, still with this narrative.
Is she on the payroll?
Speaking of payrolls, go back and look through X. Go back.
All of the folks.
Remember the day they were at the White House?
All of the influencers holding up their binders, the Epstein tranche, level one, or whatever this was.
And by the way, please like this.
Thank you very much, Rick.
Thank you, my friends.
Thank you for please, please like this.
I don't want to keep busting your, but it helps a lot.
Anyway, during the first tranche, I like seeing that.
The first tranche, did you see what it was?
Of all those people, anybody talking about Epstein now?
Nope.
Simon says, how long is this circus going to last?
I'm from Quebec, and it's a disgrace that the murder was solved online and not through the law.
Merci, Lionel.
And thank you.
And God bless you and our great brothers and sisters north of the border.
I wish you nothing but the best.
Thank God you got rid of Trudeau.
Let's see if this new fellow.
I couldn't believe it.
Canada and Australia, two hotbeds for the complete destruction of civil liberties and freedom in any event.
All I know is simply this.
And there's some things, you know, that the story, the absolute story, it's the most ridiculous, the most absurd story about this narrative involving the particular, the death, the death of Charlie.
It's not, they're not even talking about it.
They're not even talking about it.
And she wants to run.
She wants to put this through speedy trial.
She wants to use her input as a victim to increase the case through a speedy trial or to increase the celerity of it, which means she wants to be done with it.
Warehouse says, why is the IRS not investigating or the DOJ or anybody except online people?
I don't know.
I don't know anything.
I don't know anything.
I don't get anything.
I don't understand.
Did you hear the story of Trump and the ape joke or whatever, which is that can't be.
I thought to myself, no, this, this, fire the person who did this.
You know, don't take the heat for that.
If you didn't, that's just sloppy.
Somebody's setting you up.
I don't even know what happened with that.
They're making it sound like I didn't say anything.
Look, if that's, remember what they did to Roseanne.
Remember that whole thing, the Valerie.
Remember Valerie Jarrett, she looks like, I'm not even going to say it.
What is going on here?
What is going on?
Now, Trump wants to take all of the statues that were taken down by virtue of whatever he puts to put them in a White House.
Look, he's going to trash that place up.
I love the guy.
But already the Oval Office looks like a cracker barrel gift shop.
It's weird.
Anyway, back to what's going on.
If it wasn't for independent investigators, independent, independent folks pouring through the various goings-on of Erica, we would know nothing.
This 15-year-old stuff is, I've got to taste them.
You should have a real, how do I say this? Allergy towards things like handling discarded hypodermic needles on the street.
Don't pick them up.
Walking through Mumbai in the ghettos barefoot.
Don't do it.
And being on the phone texting with a 15-year-old, what is the matter with you?
You're doomed.
Somebody's going to tell you, why were you texting a 15?
Even if you said, America is the greatest country in the world, God bless America.
Jesus is Lord.
Hallelujah.
They would say, why are you texting a 15-year-old at nine o'clock at night or whatever?
These people don't have any optics.
And you know why?
They feel that they are so special.
They're so disconnected from reality.
They can do whatever they want.
That's like all of a sudden with Epstein.
Everybody, listen, Epstein had people over.
And Mrs. L, by the way, was talking the other day to a lot of survivors.
And she'll talk.
By the way, go to her website.
Not her website.
Her YouTube channel at Lynn's Warriors.
Thank you for subscribing.
She's got a brand new one.
She's got one today about how they're trying to lure kids into betting.
Have you seen this?
They're trying to get kids and having them learn to become gambling addicts.
Let me tell you something.
That is the worst addiction there is, bar none.
Big Dickie says, you know what's bigger than the island?
And Charlie Kirk is an USAID NGO's deflection and approbation to the next Bread and Circuses.
Wow, man, that is, that is, that is a mouthful, but you're right about that.
And thank you.
It's very interesting.
Everybody knows what Bread and Circuses is, correct?
You know this juvenile first century, the idea that once you keep Panem at circines, once you keep the people happy with their grain, they call it the green dole with their bread and things to watch.
They won't care about anything you want to do with them.
Our good friend Alex says, will you do a podcast episode dedicated to showcasing some of your favorite fancy words?
Oh, embullion, concubiscence.
Oh, loquacious, sanguinary.
Oh, yes.
Well, I would if anybody is interested.
If anybody is interested.
Now, another thing, too, is what's going to happen next with this?
What's going to happen next?
First, what Candace Owens is doing is still the best.
And I don't, how do I say this?
Sometimes we need other people to highlight, but I may be in the minority here, but I really don't need other people.
They're very good, though, by the way.
They're very good.
But I'm pointing you to her.
I'm pointing you to her.
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I don't have independent analyses.
I don't go through the paperwork of TPUSA and others.
I don't.
In fact, I'd stay away from that.
If you don't know what the hell you're talking about, because then you're really getting into some really nasty stuff.
And also, when you talk about Erica perhaps texting somebody, which is what's being alleged here, don't call her a pedo.
Don't go.
Don't jump.
You don't have to say that.
You don't have to say it.
Just tell me what happened.
Let me work the magic.
That's all that there is.
There's something that happens.
Let me also tell you something.
And I'm going to say this a little bit differently.
And this is not about Erica per se, but somebody that I've known.
When you live in a world where you are loved, I don't think anybody really understands what this thing.
There might be people.
You might, for example, be loved, liked.
You might be attractive.
You might have been popular.
But when you're at the level of Charlie Kirk and I guess by derivative matters, his wife, it's very heady.
Bill Barr has all the answers.
Well, Bill Barr was the one who said that it was self-harm.
So did Bongino and so did Kash Patel.
And by the way, I haven't seen Kash Patel in Tucson.
Please, Cash, stay away.
There's a meme, by the way, a Millie Vanilli that is so good.
Go on X and Y.
It's phenomenal.
It's Bongino.
It's brilliant, brilliant stuff.
Anyway.
But when you're in the position where you are loved and you are respected and you walk out onto a platform and people just don't, I mean, you are like God to them.
Do you know what that is?
Do you know what that does to people?
Do you know how heady that is?
It's an aphrodisiac.
Because it's one thing for people to say, you're beautiful.
It's another thing for somebody to say, you're holy.
You're a leader.
You're my hero.
You're godlike.
You're spirit.
Whoa.
That's why there has always been such a long line of deception in terms of ministries, the church, people who've taken, because you're talking to people at their most vulnerable.
The best is if you're a shrink.
Oh my God.
If you're unscrupulous, you've got nothing but women coming to you, pouring their heart out, and you become their surrogate father, which is another thing.
There are many, many areas of symbolism, symbology, semiotics that we have to understand.
And one of the things, ladies in particular, is the issue of father.
If we have any of you young ladies who are sadly the victim of not the victim, but if you had, but if your parents divorced, if you didn't have a father growing up, if you've you will always search that, you will always search for a father.
You will always want the father means something to you.
You've never had it.
You've never sometimes people feel like it was their fault.
And when you lose something in life or never had something, you always look for it inadvertently.
You don't even realize it, but you look for it.
Or you become more sensitive to it.
More predisposed.
You have a greater predilection towards a father figure, somebody that you can fall in love with, perhaps, but somebody that you respect.
Not necessarily somebody who falls into the regular thing.
A good predator always can read the prey.
Always.
And when you're somebody, and I'm not talking about, believe me, let me make this very clear.
I'm not talking about Erica.
But when you're talking about somebody who is into this self-gratification, this thing about, look how I am loved.
Look how hot I am.
Look how sexy I am.
Look how I am beloved and I'm respected.
You don't understand I am so important to these people.
I'm not just somebody who's, you know, whatever.
They will sometimes not make a distinction between women and girls, same sex or whatever, especially with women.
And the reason for that, and the reason for that is that it is very common for people to, well, in our society, to women who are allowed to get much closer to each other in terms of not sexuality, but intimacy.
I know what I'm talking about.
Let me explain something to you.
This is good to remember.
Put this away in your head, in your head.
Put this away in your head, whatever that means.
Men and women both find women to be attractive and warm and special and beautiful because of one thing, mother.
If a child does not find a woman attractive, if a child looks at a woman as I distrust them, that's not good if your survival depends on you connecting.
So society, so evolution has preferred, has referenced, if you will.
Oh, look at this, Freud, father of the craft.
Well, in some respects, yes, but a lot of that he said was correct.
But thank you very much.
But when you have a woman who represents something to women that is attractive by virtue of this, sweet, it's intimacy.
Why do you think so many young girls go to college for the first time, they're away from home, and they will have their first kind of their same-sex experience.
Not because they're gay necessarily, but because it's intimacy.
A lot of times, as you well know, many, many men are Neanderthals.
They do not know how to provide this.
And if you take somebody who maybe is misunderstood, perhaps maybe who had some bad go with men, women can satisfy or can not satisfy to an extent, but can appeal to somebody, not necessarily out of any kind of sapphic or gay love, but something called intimacy.
Intimacy.
You don't know the number of people, the number of times when people have broken up, have a divorce, and later on they met somebody who was also divorced and they become kind of a couple, but it's a different, it's all right.
What am I saying?
What I'm saying is you got to be careful that when you're an older woman and you get some 15-year-old or a young girl, not only is she predisposed to wanting to know you because of your fame, because of your poker tude, because of all of your immane panache, but there's also that notion of intimacy.
You see, that's what Ghelane Maxwell did.
Ghelane Maxwell acted as the stalking horse, the sheepdog.
She was the one who went out and lured people in.
The stalking horse is when you would walk in sometime.
If you were a hunter, if you saw a bunch of your prey sitting around a fire, if you walked into that clearing, they'd run because they'd see you and say, that's a human.
But if you walk in with a horse and you're behind the horse, they look up and say, oh, horse is an animal.
He's okay.
You're behind him.
They lure you.
Sheepdog to an extent.
Ghelane Maxwell was the older sister.
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Trust me.
Come on in.
Jeffrey likes you.
Jeffrey likes you.
He knew how to read these girls.
Broken homes, especially the Palm Beach area.
There was this part of Palm Beach where across the tracks, people were very, very poor.
And the girls themselves would recruit other girls.
Remember, as bad as Epstein was, not everything was him throwing people in the back of a van.
There's no excuse for it, but he didn't have to grab people.
They came to him.
And people know how to read others.
Had Charlie wanted to be a real, a real despot, a sexual, you know, privateer, so to speak, a pirate, a sex pirate.
He could have just, oh my God.
Would you like to meet Charlie?
Yes.
You know, I mean, it happens all the time.
So I'm just leaving at that.
But you, like most of us, we don't have this.
And we have to understand that you never engage, especially in anybody who is a minor.
And texting today, sexy, to be sure, but texting is the ruination.
And why people do this?
Why did all these people in Epstein, why did they all send emails?
Why?
Why did they do that?
Does that make sense to you?
Why?
And where are Charlie's parents?
And where's her parents?
Where's all these other people?
You know that Erica, they're going to boot her.
They're going to boot her.
They cannot do this.
She's drawing fire.
She's winning no one over.
She's so phony, so fake.
She's repeating the shtick.
And when you're coming out and you say the thing that bothers you the most is not the fact that your husband was slaughtered and gunned down and that your children are the father, but because you're worried about the treatment of Israel, come on.
Even Israel is saying, What?
You're blowing it.
No comment.
Tapping, my friends.
And don't think for one reason.
Don't think.
There's a lot of things happening.
A lot of vectors.
You've got the Epstein folks coming this way.
You've got this complete and total.
Put it this way.
Have you noticed there's not one, not one anti-Candice channel that says, hey, today, here's some great things, some great news from TPUSA, other than TPUSA.
Today, Erica, as she read to the, she cannot not talk about herself.
She can't not do that.
If she were smart, she'd go out and say, Today, we gave scholarships to these people and that people read from the book of whatever it is.
Read it.
Do your thing.
Give some verse.
Move on.
Stop talking about yourself.
But she can't.
She can't.
It's about her.
It's beautiful.
And it's like some people don't get it.
Go back and listen to the announcement that going back to the Guthrie case that Savannah Guthrie read.
What is this?
It was the weirdest thing.
It's okay.
We want to move forward.
It sounds like bring back the body.
It's bizarre.
Candace Book Club, Sigmund Freud and Jewish Mystical Tradition.
Very interesting, very fascinating.
Very fascinating.
Freud, aside from this, was so critical by virtue of the fact that he came along during Victorian times when people were into hoop skirts.
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And I mean, this was, and he, they thought we were at the height, not height, but the height of civilization with Goethe and this and that.
And he comes along, and what does he talk about?
He talks about Enal and sexualness and repressed feelings and incubi and succubi.
Come on.
He was something.
To an extent, he's very, very good, to an extent.
But there is a lot to be said, remember, for reading about the history of Judaism and also Christianity and religion in and of itself.
To look at the themes, the themes, the references about how there's these modalities that come about.
It's a fascinating subject.
Remember one thing.
And I say this again.
You have nothing to ever fear in asking questions and being how you want to be.
You have nothing to fear.
Nothing.
Now, today, I hope you saw my video this morning.
My question is, could Charlie be alive today?
Could Charlie Kirk right now be alive?
Meaning that either he survived an attempt at assassination or it was contrived, one of the others.
Could he be alive today?
Could he could he be question is this?
I'm not asking a question.
Somebody says, Charlie is dead.
Come on.
I'm asking a question.
I'm asking a question.
Now, there was a time when people were saying, Is they thought that John Kennedy Jr. was alive?
I thought, oh, that was weird.
And then people said, yeah, maybe Epstein's alive.
Remember, they looked at the oracle, the pinna, the pinna, the little fold of your ears, which have their own kind of like fingerprint.
Then they talked about bin Laden.
Is bin Laden dead?
Why wouldn't they take a picture of Bin Laden?
Benazir Bhutto said he had died before.
How do we even, first of all, I don't know who they got.
But here's my question.
How do you know he's dead?
I'm going to put you on the stand, state your name for the record.
How do you know he's dead?
What's your main evidence?
What's your main evidence?
Do you know what happens when people go into witness protection programs and they disappear?
Do you understand this?
Do you recognize this?
What is the story?
When people go into witness protection program, you'd be surprised all of a sudden, what video did you see?
What video?
No, I'm saying, do you believe this?
That was it.
Now, there are people who say, I was there.
There's a death certificate.
There's always going to be, there's always a death certificate.
There's always going to be there.
Do you believe that if there was, I'm asking you a very simple question.
I don't want people to get upset by this.
By the way, Big Dick says Freud wasn't the problem.
It was those that maligned the after there's a YouTube commercial tracing this psychical manipulation.
Freud, by the way, thank you.
Freud has some very good stuff to say.
Not all of it, but let me ask you a question.
They wondered about Hitler being, remember that one?
Did they get him, Bin Laden?
What about Saddam Hussein?
How do you know he?
How do you know this?
Well, because people couldn't keep this secret.
Really?
Think about this.
This is one of those things that you got to ask, and you might say to yourself, well, I'm only saying that if he wasn't, I mean, it sure looked like it.
Didn't it?
Yeah, it looked like it.
Absolutely.
But here's the question.
Could.
Is it possible?
I don't want you to answer my question.
I don't want you to answer my question.
Don't just say, oh, come on.
Come on.
If you said, is JFK dead?
I think maybe that picture of him on the morgue.
I'm assuming that's him.
That was pretty good.
And I think seeing his head, you know, and the wound, certainly.
Was that the wound?
Was that it?
Is that necessarily going to, does that, it sure look like it.
Is it real?
I guess it's real.
Of course it's real, right?
There's no way, is there?
Do you think that Joe Biden could have died and he has a double?
Have you seen the masks people wear?
I'm dead serious.
How do you know this?
How they never showed bin Laden.
That was the phony.
And then remember that one Navy SEAL that I always kind of wondered about.
He apparently said, well, I may have fudged about something.
What do you mean, something?
Well, I mean, you always show the bottom, you always show the victim.
You show the person.
You show the individual who is always, you always do.
You always want there to be something.
Elizabeth Kubler-Ross in her book on death and dying said that it is critical, absolutely critical for people to understand that at the time of Vietnam, whenever somebody is, if a loved one is gone, whatever you have left, bring it back.
If it's a bone, there has to be that word closure.
There has to be, because if you don't, people will start to imagine, well, maybe he's not dead.
Maybe he's in the jungle.
And then they'll start to become almost psychotic over that.
There are some things we can use.
Like, I believe that George Washington is dead.
I think you can say almost axiomatically he's dead.
Nobody, no proof, hang on, nobody, no proven means, no motive, opportunity.
That's, by the way, you know, that, thank you.
That's all that, that detective talk.
I guess.
I always thought to myself, you know, these are the things that you have to ask yourself.
And when you, when you speak, there was that, there was that famous FBI.
And by the way, I would put by my, if I had to bet, I'd say put bunny on him being dead.
I think it's far more, far more rational.
However, is it possible?
Yeah, absolutely.
Is it possible that we never landed on the moon?
Yes or no?
Is it possible?
Is it possible that we never landed on the moon?
I don't know what they did.
They won up.
They did something.
Did you ever see this?
There's one picture.
Go to my Twitter at Lionel Media where they looked at this lem that came back and was used again.
It's the funniest thing.
I mean, it's so thin.
Do you believe it's possible?
Do you know how many people it would take to keep this quiet?
Do you not understand the number of people it would have taken to keep it up?
What's the matter with you?
You're sick.
You're demented.
Don't you understand the number of people required for you to really?
The Manhattan Project had a hundred and something thousand people.
Many of them, they weren't even sure what they were doing, but they were there.
They knew it was something.
They always want you to believe that people just don't keep their mouths shut.
That people just don't keep their mouth shut.
Or that people just cannot swear allegiance.
Do we know yet where they buried Charlie?
I don't know.
Maybe you could tell me.
I don't know.
What about the fact, do you think that maybe there's a, if I hope that during the defense, they turn over all of the forensics, all the medical examiner, all the point of entry, all the stuff that this Tyler Robinson is going to need to at least pursue a defense.
I want to see what happened.
I want to see.
How do you know somebody else didn't shoot him?
How do you know that there was not another shooter?
He didn't get around obviously.
Nothing.
How do you know anything?
How do you know they didn't tell Tyler Robinson?
You better keep your mouth shut because you got your family to think about.
Okay?
So watch what you say.
Okay?
You know what's good for you.
So they did this, what David Berkowitz, what Maury Jerry told me they did it.
How do you know what you know?
Where is it?
Where is the where?
Now, people could say, well, you know, we don't get to see everybody who's dead.
It's true.
True.
But somebody this big, the bigger the story, the less likely you're going to be asking questions.
All I want you to do is just ask yourself, is it possible?
Do you know what the it's a it's it's a phenomenal story.
See, that's the part that I think is so fascinating.
I talk about this all the time.
How do you know what you know?
How do you know what you know?
It's called the epistemology of something.
How do you know about this?
Imagine, I said, imagine, imagine for a moment that the greatest trick, and this is so interesting to me, and I love this stuff, but just to match this, and I talked about it today.
I hope you saw the video.
Imagine, let me make sure you see this one because I think it's very good.
And what's creative is that people say, oh, come on, that's the best stuff.
Whenever you say to me, oh, come on, I'm thinking, yeah, that's what I like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the, oh, come on thing, because that means I've got your attention.
Here's the link.
And please watch it at your convenience.
I think it's very good.
I think it's very good.
But I gave it a lot of thought and spent some time thinking about this.
And I wanted you to think about it as well.
But I want you to imagine this.
Ask yourself a very simple question.
How could this have?
How could they?
Let's assume your job was to pull this off.
How would you do it?
What would you say?
And that's why I was trying to bring the fact that the greatest, imagine that the greatest trick that the greatest trick modern government or power ever pulled wasn't convincing people of a lie, but convincing them that certain possibilities are so outrageous and impossible, they're not even worth examining.
In a future shaped by technology, you can't imagine.
Think actual visual AI, but biotechnology, artificial intelligence, total informational control, death and identity might very well become far more kind of flexible than we ever imagined.
I'm not accusing anybody of anything about any real individual.
It's a science fiction thought experiment about how easily our, I guess, assumptions can be manipulated.
Look, we already live in an age where faces can be digitally altered in real time, voices can be cloned, entire video performances can be synthesized from fragments, little pieces of data.
Now project that technology forward several decades.
Add surgical techniques that can restructure bone, alter skin texture, reshape biometric markers, add genetic therapies like epigenetics and the like that can subtly change their hair patterns.
Jamie says it would go against everything Charlie Kirk believed.
He would never let an innocent man sit in prison and possibly die if he were alive.
Interesting that you say that.
Interesting that you say that.
But then again, by the way, thank you.
It's a great point.
But then again, if there's something bigger, or if he perhaps can be acquitted, he might have been involved in something.
How did Charlie ever, how did Charlie ever, speaking about going against his way of thinking, marry a woman like Erica, who, by the way, should have stayed home and been a mom, which is what he said.
But it's a very good point, though.
But what about stuff today that can subtly change, you know, hair patterns and aging processes, physical traits?
None of this requires magic.
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It doesn't require any kind of special voodoo, just incremental progress along paths that are already visible, little by little.
And in this world that may or may not exist, it would be technically possible for a public figure, presumed dead, to be given an entirely new appearance and identity.
You don't think that's possible?
The mechanics would not even be really the hardest part, the harder part would be managing the narrative, you know, the storyline.
Human beings rely on, you know, shared stories and lore, you know, to anchor themselves of reality.
It's almost like mythology.
So when a major figure is declared dead, the public processes the event through, you know, ritual and funereal media repetition, moiology, emotional closure.
We go through this stuff.
But once that closure sets in, most people stop questioning.
The mind and the soul and you prefer stability over endless doubt.
We don't like what I'm saying.
We don't like this doubt.
We don't like me asking these questions.
You're asking yourself, what the hell are you talking about?
See, this is where incredulity, this is what I said before, this is McLuhan's line about little lies are hard to keep quiet, but big lies are easy because of incredulity.
It's the incredulity when it becomes a form of security.
See, if someone were to suggest that a well-known leader or rock star or pop star was secretly alive and living under another identity somewhere else, the immediate reaction would be laughter.
Laughter.
You're crazy.
Not because the logistics are impossible, but because the claim violates certain expectations.
Oh, no, you don't.
You can't.
I'm not going to do that.
No, no.
This is what I believe in.
You can't do this to me.
We're trained to treat official narratives as the baseline of reality, an immutable reality.
It doesn't change.
They wouldn't say this if it wasn't true.
There's no way you can keep this quiet, right?
And to challenge this requires, oh my God, requires extraordinary evidence.
And most folks, let's face it, most here do not have the time or the incentive or the inclination to put up with what they consider to be 100% bullshit.
But consider how intel agencies already operate in fiction and in documented Syrexit Dumbinus Vera.
Thank you.
Translation might be nice.
I appreciate this, sir.
I could translate that.
Thank you for your kindness.
See, I mentioned before witness protection programs.
They relocate individuals, people that are famous, famous, kind of that you would notice that they're walking around.
They give them new names, backgrounds.
Deep cover operatives live for years under constructed identities, you know, supported by really elaborate paperwork and digital footprints.
And so in the future, with more sophisticated data systems than that which we already have, I mean, it could be even easier.
I mean, when Sammy the Bull was walking around, when everybody knew what he looked like and he's running around and people are, people are, people are basically mafia turncoats and the like, those people risked their lives.
They had no problem.
They were never found.
A person could step into a fully formed life with an employment history.
Now, the problem would be, admittedly, if you're Epstein and you go from living on 71st Street in a mansion to a split-level ranch in Pomona, you know, but it's either that or he probably says, I'll do that.
Who knows?
Sometimes they're so weird, these people, they might like that.
But imagine this, a new employment history, new social connections, financial records, all of it appear authentic from every angle.
Now, take that and imagine layering that capability onto a scenario involving a high-profile figure.
And the transformation wouldn't need to be perfect, but it would only need to be good enough to pass casual scrutiny.
Plus, remember, Americans forget we have the attention span of a net, and most social interactions are superficial.
So we recognize people by general patterns rather than forensic detail.
We don't know all the little specifics.
And the change in posture, a hairstyle, or a facial structure, and these masks that we have now, combine that with a new context.
Somebody like old Epstein might think it'd be kind of groovy to do that.
He might, in some weird way, think he's part of a secret agent and might say, I'd like to try that.
And who would, who, who would, who would say, remember when the number of people who, when they saw his picture, when they saw him being taken out of the, out of the, out of the cell, and they looked at their oracles at the pinna, little, little configurations of the, of the ear, and they said, that's not him.
Even then people realize, wait a minute.
So you may not think this is true, but it's possible.
Easier than you ever thought.
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Because sleight of hand, you're too busy.
You're freaky out.
You're not noticing things.
And what happens when anybody brings up anything?
Hey, they took those SD chips.
Hey, look at how they were wearing maroon shirts.
Oh, stop that.
Because people hate when you destroy their sense of reality.
And they hate when you make them feel stupid.
And they hate when you do anything that makes them feel as though you know something they don't.
That's why they hate conspiracy theories.
That's why they hate us.
Okay.
That's an hour, my friend.
You've been so good.
How about a big hand for yourself?
Wasn't this fun?
I like this.
I like this time of night.
I think you're kind of grooved.
It's a good time.
It's a good.
I'm going to be on WABC tonight.
Overnights, 1 to 5.
Ooh, that's like, that's just like, whoo.
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Thank you for following us.
Make sure you continue to follow us, think about what we're doing, and your brilliance and your expertise.
I love the way you think.
I love so much about the way you think.
And I love the way you put all of this into account and how you just are there always to lend support and lend a hand.
You are such, you're a part of the family, a wonderful part of the family.
And I thank you for this.
I thank you for this.
And the reason why I thank you for this is because of the fact that you just add so much.
All right, my friends.
Thank you.
Have a great and a glorious day.
I'm going to have some questions for you afterwards in the comments section, in the afterwards section.
Please join me.
Join us.
Your thoughts are terrific.
We'll see you again tomorrow.
By the way, right now it is 10 degrees in New York City with a minus level of wherever the hell you want to.
Anyway, thank you.
Thank you.
I have no idea about the Super Bowl.
I don't know if anybody won or lost.
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
I just know I was with you on Super Bowl Sunday, and that's what mattered.