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Jan. 27, 2026 - Lionel Nation
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5 Things the Media Hope You Forget About Candace Owens

Candace Owens faces media smear campaigns—like "Adderall-induced psychosis"—that backfired, rallying supporters. TPUSA’s corporate opacity and alleged betrayal of Charlie Kirk post-firing expose financial improprieties. Erica Kirk’s shifting narrative, from Christian values to Fort Huachuca/MK Ultra claims, raises skepticism. Kirk’s death sparks unanswered questions: missing parents, titanium neck claims, and "30 out 6" inconsistencies. Owens’ rising influence mirrors a MAGA-like movement among young conservatives, despite controversial stances on gender roles. Epstein-linked orphanage trafficking ties add layers to her critics’ scrutiny, while supporters defend her authenticity. [Automatically generated summary]

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Five Issues Evolved 00:11:43
I want you to think about this.
In 138 days, that's from today's date to the horrible assassination of Charlie Kirk, in 138 days.
Look at what has evolved and changed and collapsed involving five different areas.
Five different areas I'm going to be talking about.
Five, in case you're new to this.
What is happening?
Why is this important?
What is the issue here?
It's fascinating.
But you've got to step back and look at these five issues.
Subjects, rubrics, subject matter that people are discussing.
And the first one is simply this.
The elevation, the apotheosis of Candace Owens.
Now, she was extremely popular.
Absolutely blockbuster.
Incredible, powerful, smart, edgy.
She had a variety of subjects that exploded even more, primarily, primarily, I would say, by what they did to her.
How they thought.
The Ben Shapiros and others and the hired hands, the hired hitmen who were paid and dispatched, I believe, I suspect.
We're not naming names, but you can see who they were.
All of a sudden, attacking her with a perfervid focus and anger unimaginable.
Why?
Because she dared to question things and ask about behaviors.
It was incredible.
A pylon, the likes of which we'd never seen.
Defamation, a character attack.
I mean, she was crazy, nuts.
I heard Adderall-induced psychosis.
You name it, you name it.
And it was, I mean, it was, I've never seen anything like it.
And every time they did this, this is the most important.
Every time they did this, you would think they would have stopped and said, women, stop.
This is not good.
Because people were rebelling.
People were taking offense to that.
People, her friends, her acolytes, her minions, those people that she loved, those people that love her, they were asking the question specifically, what is it that, what are you, what are you doing to her?
Why?
Why are you doing this?
Why are you attacking her?
What is going on here?
And that started, whatever the attention was regarding TPUSA and Erica and others, started to shift.
And she created this block of acolytes and devotees and people who just became disciples and apostles of Candace, who loved her candor and recognized the fact that she was all alone and you came to her side.
She came up with some of the most brutal assessments of that which was true.
Now remember, this goes with everybody.
You don't always, you don't have to accept the entire package of everything anybody has ever said about anything.
It's just, there is no such thing as that.
People will love to tell you, wait a minute, what do you think about what Candace said this?
What about her position in the Middle East?
What about this?
I'm not talking about the Middle East.
I'm talking about this.
Yeah, but what about her position on Brigitte Macron?
I'm not talking about Brigitte Macron.
I'm talking about this.
Why are you changing the subject?
This is the oldest trick in the book.
Have you ever been in an argument with somebody who, when they're losing the argument, says, oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, don't forget what you did on Christmas.
What?
That's right.
You got drunk on Christmas and I told you that.
I said, what are you bringing that up for?
Why?
Why?
Because I don't have anything to argue now.
I don't even know the skills of argumentation.
I don't know what to tell you.
So I'm going to pull out anything to just keep this going.
And that's what they do.
Okay?
So this is number one.
This is the first part about this.
This is Candace.
The second issue was TPUSA.
TPUSA.
Most of us, and I speak, please, I don't want to be presumptuous, but I will speak for me, and you probably agree with me.
I used to get TPUSA and CPAC and all the others kind of confused.
I've never been a fan of organizations.
I've never been, it's not my thing.
And I thought, okay, you know, TPUSA, Charlie, good.
Never cared about it.
It was an organization.
It was monolithic.
It was corporate.
There's no connectivity to that.
And then, by virtue of independent analyses, individual forensic accountings, because they went after Candace, remember, that was a linchpin to all this.
When they started pulling things back and pulling things apart, what happened then, very, very interesting, was something very scary.
People started to realize, okay, let's look at you.
Let's look at your hierarchy.
Let's look at your corporate structure.
Let's look and see if there's any kind of transparency.
Who's running the show?
Who was there?
What about doge-like references that Charlie purportedly wanted?
Questions and thoughts and accusations of financial impropriety and violations of non-profit status and all of this.
And who was a contractor?
Overnight, through the work of others, and I will direct you accordingly.
That's not my expertise.
But overnight, we had the, it was like a blueprint.
It was a surgical schematic of the organization, donors, vendors, contractors.
It was the most incredible thing I have ever seen.
Why?
Because it started off with Candace.
Because they went after Candace.
And they fired her.
And then later on, through Daily Wire and others, which is a little bit different, because Ben Shapiro, with all due respect, and Ben has done quite a bit, and he has a lot to be proud of in terms of the amount of power and status he has been able to earn by virtue of his own particular platform, whether you agree with it or not.
He's irrelevant right now.
I mean, he is so, nobody even cares.
That's the worst thing possible.
When people don't even care, there is nothing worse than that.
There is absolutely, positively nothing worse for people to show indifference.
Like you, hate you, but don't, meh, me.
That's the worst.
Because whatever he did, especially his latest move, ostensibly, was to take old Candace Owen shows and then reposition and retool them as a new version of whatever, and then to kind of mock it in.
That was a disaster.
How anybody signed off on that?
I haven't minded.
This is also a part which I marvel at.
These are supposedly smart people with access to millions of dollars of PR companies and damage control advisors.
Where they came up with this, how they thought this would be a good idea, I have no idea.
So anyway, so there's Candace and TPUSA.
TPUSA.
They live by donors.
They live by and through donors.
Donors respond in a variety of different ways.
You want to make donors, people who believe in your cause, you want them to feel safe and secure and proud, proud that they're investing, proud that they're contributing, proud that their philanthropy and beneficence helps this particular cause.
You have to be in a coma not to understand TPUSA and this latest make heaven crowded or whatever, which is, I mean, everybody is saying, what?
That's not good.
Little unsolicited advice here.
When people say, what?
Not good.
Not good.
When that's the reaction, when people are just shocked, and we'll get to Erica in a moment.
But so I have no beef against TPUSA.
I don't know who the players are.
I don't know who the primaries are, who the principals.
But what I'm saying is, for the love of God, I have never, I've learned more about you allegations of strong-arming and firing and people losing their jobs.
Let me tell you something.
A little side note.
Many of us, especially younger people, remember with great clarity what it was like when they lost a job, when they were fired, when they were let go.
Because so much of our identity is connected with what do we do?
If you're at a party, what do you do?
What do you do?
What do you do?
And what do you do now becomes what did you used to do?
And when you feel so committed to something and you've worked 90 hours a week and then somebody says, sorry, we're going in a different direction.
Whoever came up with this, we're going in a different direction.
It's cruel.
It's almost, it's like when you break up a relationship.
It's not you, it's me, that kind of a thing.
This hit so hard with people.
This resonated because so many people, young in particular, remember, it was devastating.
Do you remember, were you ever fired from something and you thought, why?
What have I done?
And it's normally, very rarely, is it because you've stolen from the company or, you know, no.
It's personality, power, change, power shifts, power dynamics, new management, new direction.
So throw that into the mix.
That brought a lot of people on.
And there were also many people purportedly who are feeding Candace information, who are whistleblowers, who themselves see what is happening to TPUSA being almost a betrayal to Charlie.
And there were people who, many, many people who wanted to work for that organization, not because it was a paycheck, but because they believed in the cause.
And that's one thing these folks do not understand.
This was very important to people.
So we got Candace, TPUSA, now Erica, number three.
Erica, Erica came out, this was Erica at first.
People would say, oh, there's Charlie Kirk's wife.
Beauty Pageant Paradox 00:03:09
Okay.
And if I ever say Erica King, I swear to you, I don't know what is the matter with me.
Some type of senescence, dotage, hobbled by decrepitude, but it's Erica Kirk, his ex-wife, Charlie Kirk's wife, the mother of his children, the woman who was festooned in the glow of Christianity and good values, who, along with Charlie, said things like, a mother should not work.
She should be home with her children.
What's she doing right now?
Okay, whatever.
I know what you're saying.
Well, that was different.
This is an emergency.
All right, fine.
A woman who loved the attention.
A woman who we found out, oh, yeah.
Beauty queen, beauty pageant, with all due respect, with all due respect.
Please do not be offended with what I tell you.
There are very few things in life that are to me as strange as the beauty pageant.
Let me explain.
In most competitions that people involve themselves with, there's some type of metrics that are identifiable and that are subject to replication and performance.
Track and field, athletics, scholarship, you know, singing, talent, real talent.
You know what I mean?
Talent.
As opposed to, look how hot I am.
Not beauty, not pretty, not innocent, not representing the best of, no, I'm beautiful, I'm hot, I'm gorgeous, and you want me.
You want me.
And I'm going to come out wearing this crown, crown, a crown, this regal status.
I'm going to wear a sash, and I'm going to wear a bikini or a bathing suit, and I'm going to perambulate and trapes across the stage.
How many people during the Nobel Prize did Richard Feynman ever turn around and give us a butt shot?
You know what I mean?
It's just, it's a modern day version of the minstrel show.
Women basically showing how beautiful they are, how pretty they are, how sexy.
Forget the talent.
Nobody cares about the talent.
Nobody says, hey, who was that gal playing the bassoon?
Wow.
That's a cover.
So when you're involved in this, and when you worry about your weight and your looks and your makeup and your face and how hot you are and your pretty, here's my face, here's my face, here's my face, here, Not, here's my music, here's my bassoon, here's my, here's my, here are my sports records.
It does something to you.
It does something.
I don't care what anybody says.
Purely looks, purely, unless you're one of these classic women from days of yore who answered a question so poorly, so horribly, so terribly.
Believing In Something 00:12:11
Remember this one, United States of America and the, she couldn't ask where the globe was.
Oh my God.
Anyway, that's where she was.
Then you have a woman that we find out may or may not have had boyfriends or relationships, may or may not have been drinking, may or may not have been.
Now, it's not that that matters.
What matters is that you told us one thing when in fact the other was true.
You said this.
We didn't know anything about this.
You said this.
You came up with this.
You brought this storyline up.
You did it.
And now we're finding out it wasn't true.
What else did you lie about?
What else?
Then we find out with this Fort Huachuca, I swear to you, when I heard Candace mention Fort Huachuca, please don't make me go through that again.
Thought this might be this.
First of all, the name.
I said, What is this?
Was this a summer camp?
What is this?
And instead of just telling the truth, like, yeah, of course it was Ford Wachuka.
It's a military.
We're very proud to work with the military.
What's your point?
That would have been it.
Oh, no, no, no.
What are you talking about?
What are you crazy?
And then it just, remember Mitch Snow, they attacked this poor guy.
Turns out he was telling the truth.
I mean, it was, what are you doing?
They create a problem.
All they had to do was say, yeah, why?
Whatever it is, just admit it.
Nobody cares.
It's when you deny it and you lie, that's the problem.
So then we find out, and you know, now let me tell you something.
If you're new to our group here, we are, I call us, the conspiratorium.
And we love stuff that is not tin foil hat.
By the way, it's aluminum foil.
We haven't used tin in years.
But we don't necessarily embrace, but we do not necessarily reject automatically any kind of suggestion that there was a clandestine, deep state shadow government in the background of things.
So when we hear that Erica Kirk has been involved in, what was it, November Renaissance and EMP tutorials and industrials and other things about, you know, MK Ultra or whatever it is.
And then you find out that her mother and family have been ensconced in the defense industry, same way years ago.
Remember Frank Zappa's parents, Jim Morrison's parents?
This goes back to Tavistock and that's a whole other thing.
But we have always, always, always, those of us in the conspiratorium have always marveled at how many people have connections to what we call the military.
It's fascinating.
Absolutely fascinating.
And you're wondering, what else aren't you telling us?
What else are you not telling us?
Then you get into other, go back to the old stories.
Why?
We'll get to Charlie in a moment.
Why?
Why was what did Charlie run afoul of?
What direction?
His thoughts about the Middle East, his demand for a Doge-style investigation, all of those being suggested.
Which leads us to number four: Charlie's assassination.
Chat GPT refused, by the way, don't kid yourself.
Chat GPT or open AI, excuse me, OpenAI, ChatGPT, does not recognize geoengineering.
They believe in condensation drills and, of all things, water vapor.
They believe that.
They also believe in a kind of a very, very safe approach.
But when I asked about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, they said there's no evidence he was assassinated.
Assassination means the murder of somebody by virtue of for purposes of advancing something political or terroristic or something.
There was a reason.
You assassinate presidents, you assassinate leaders.
You don't assassinate some street urchin or some guy.
No, you assassinate because of something to eliminate their influence, their rank, their success, what have you, what have you, what have you.
All of those things that were sticking.
So even they are told, don't play this.
From the moment it happened, And I, as a former prosecutor, and you and I share this, we have just common sense.
The Tyler Robinson story, his twigs, whatever his name is, the furry gay look.
Where is he?
And we ask questions like, where's Charlie's parents?
Where is he buried?
And then we heard stories of the assassination itself.
The steel, the titanium neck vertebrae, the 30 out 6.
We don't even know what's been validated, what has been authenticated, what has been proved.
We don't know any of the ballistics.
If anything, we don't know anything.
That is a mess in and of itself.
And then you have Erica, who basically says, I forgive you.
Okay, but I want speedy trial.
I want you to speed this thing up, Buster Brown.
Let's go, go, go.
Now, in Utah, this is not a, the Sixth Amendment is a right that the defendant holds.
The defendant has this.
The person charged, he is the person.
But they believe in the victim having the right to make it known that they want the trial accelerated.
Okay, fine, for whatever it's worth.
But it's very interesting because nobody benefits from a speedy trial.
Nobody.
That's a rush to judgment.
That refuses or gives him no time to develop his case, defenses, sentencing considerations.
So it doesn't make any sense.
I don't even think she knows what she's saying.
They're taking too long.
This is perhaps the biggest murder trial in recent history.
Yeah, it may take years.
Sorry.
A lot of stuff to go over.
A lot of moving parts.
A lot of experts.
A lot of ballistics.
A lot of things.
Eyewitness testimony.
Investigators.
Depositions.
I don't think she knows what she's doing.
I really don't think she knows what she's doing.
Plus, people are saying you should be home with your kids.
Why are you doing this?
And the latest thing we talked about where she showed up at the tour match, waited an hour to talk.
I mean, it's one story after another.
And that's the thing.
One story after another, which just makes all the other aspects seem even more ridiculous.
And finally, number five, the future.
This is something which is, I think, the most important, but the most difficult to explain.
And maybe to understand.
Prior to September the 10th, there were a lot of people in this country, young people, old people, college people, but young in particular, who were the absolute plum demographic that every political organization wants on board.
And nobody can figure out how to do it.
How do we get these people?
What do we do?
They're disgusted by things.
They're oftentimes played as being stupid and they make no eye contact.
They're on the spectrum and they're taking gummy, all this stuff.
Anyway.
Well, something happened where they said, you know what?
I'm connecting with Candace.
I'm connecting with this movement.
I don't know what you call it.
I don't know if it's conservative.
I don't know what it is.
Candace and Charlie were very devoutly Christian.
Very, very open and steadfast in their traditional views.
Candace about deferring to her husband sometimes.
Charlie about insisting that a wife should stay home with her children, his children.
The Bible, the church, celibacy, sex before marriage.
I mean, I thought this would just chase young people away.
They loved it because it gave them a grounding.
It gave them something to believe in.
An ebesidarian lattice work, a foundation.
A fundamental group of precepts they can look to to explain where to go next.
That is the new MAGA, the new political party.
And I will leave you with this.
Candace Owens, Candace Owens, will be able to write her ticket politically and in terms of influence like nobody's business.
Joe Rogan, I think in terms of raw podcasting firepower, he is certainly there.
But in terms of this new, the people that love her, it's like a Joe Walsh crowd.
They love Joe Walsh.
Like nothing you've ever seen.
Same thing with Candace.
Tucker's a very, very great, very wise, very brilliant young man.
But he has fans and acolytes, but nothing like those who believe in Candace.
It's personal.
They love her.
And if she says, vote for X, don't vote for Y, do this, don't do this, people will do it because they believe in her, because she's authentic, and she's real, and she's the real McCoy, and they love that, and they need that.
And that's one thing that the Ben Shapiros and others don't know.
So I wanted to take this time just to stop for a moment and just, oh, I forgot to mention the Romanian orphanages.
I mean, there's no, there's, this, all of this could have been avoided had, remember, had Erica just gone home.
And that's it.
But no, no, no.
She had to be there.
She's the pageant holder.
She knows stagecraft.
People love her.
Oh, no, they love her.
They love to see her.
They love to see her.
They do.
Because she's so beautiful, so talented, so sincere.
So hot in a unique way.
You think I'm kidding?
You think I'm exaggerating.
So let me thank you.
Thank you for your incredible kindness to me.
Thank you also for the kindness to my wife at Lynn's Warriors.
You want to talk about child trafficking?
You want to talk about Romanian orphans?
How about the stuff that's going on in this country?
There's child trafficking in this country, and it's familial.
You can't believe what's going on.
That and Epstein, I mean, it's, and my wife has been doing it on her own by herself, indefatigable.
Thank you for following her at Lynn's Warriors.
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Supporting Causes 00:00:38
I'm very rational.
I don't get into this.
I don't get angry.
I don't do cussing.
Very matter of fact.
It's the adult in me.
It's the prosecutor in me.
It's the lawyer in me.
It's the American in me.
I'm just, but I know what I'm talking about.
And I know when I'm right.
And I'm right.
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I've got five questions.
To start us going off, I always have questions in the commentary section.
I beseech.
I entreat.
I importune you.
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