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Oct. 25, 2025 - Lionel Nation
34:09
Candace Owens' INSANE MELTDOWN Over Charlie Kirk's Conspiracy!
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It's official, my friends.
I hate to say it.
It's official.
Panda Sullivans has officially lost her mind.
I don't know what the hell is going on here.
I'm not the only one who's noticing this.
A lot of people are.
There's something really weird here.
Something very strange.
She has officially gone crackers.
There, I said it.
The woman who once stood as a symbol of sharp conservative intellect and cultural clarity has apparently spun completely off her axis.
What began as calculated, intelligent commentary has devolved into an exhibition of blind, kind of focusless rage, resentment, and unrelenting and reckless self-destruction.
And every new appearance, every post, every soundbite feels less like analysis and more like a meltdown.
It's as if the firebrand who once commanded attention through intellect now craves it all through chaos.
And you can see it.
You can feel it.
People will say, I like her.
It's like that's not the issue.
Again, critical analysis thinking implies for you to understand what this is about.
It's not about liking somebody.
It's about wondering what is happening here.
Is this a product of this rage culture that we're in?
Everybody losing their minds?
Is it a form of almost like an online Karen?
Somebody who just went berserk.
Now, remember, the issues themselves are not wrong.
Nobody is saying that what she is upset about is pointless.
That's not it.
The issue is not the rage.
It's the anger, the volume.
What is the purpose of this?
Why this much?
Why this hatred, seething, uncontrollable hatred?
It's uncomfortable.
And a lot of folks are saying the same thing.
They're wondering, what's going on here?
Where did this go?
Where did it come from?
Why are we seeing it?
What happened to her?
And you can also feel it.
It's not confidence anymore.
It's mania disguised as conviction.
She's not arguing ideas.
She's exercising demons.
Her feud or anger or concern or hate or fear or love or whatever it is regarding Charlie Kirk was the first.
Well, not the first, but the latest serious crack in the facade.
Charlie Kirk was a phenomenon.
The young conservative Wunderkind, she believes she helped elevate.
I'm not going to take that away from her.
She believes that he was his confidant.
She was his confidant.
And then all of a sudden, there's this complete and total, I don't know what it is.
But is her anger towards Erica Kirk?
Is it toward, now it's towards Trump?
Stephen Crowder is saying, what's going on here?
And it's one thing for you to be upset with Israel.
I got it.
I understand it.
There's no problem with that.
But this is just anger.
Even George Galloway is calm compared to this.
It's like you're not, it's like watching somebody in a marathon who is who is running too fast at first.
It's like, pace yourself.
This is the first of many of these.
And then leaves people with a sense of confusion.
Again, it's this disjointed anger, screaming.
She talks about that was, I don't know what it was.
I don't know what her picture was, or she looked almost like she was, you know, relaxing makeup or hairdo down or whatever the phrase is.
It seems like she was relaxed.
Either that or she's, I don't know.
I'm sorry, I don't follow every, I don't follow what she says as much as what she is saying about this, this Charlie Kirk thing.
She's now suggesting that Trump had something to do with it or Trump.
I guess she says something about they named a boulevard or something after you in Israel.
That means they did it.
I mean, she went nuts before she was with Kanye, then she wasn't, then she was a Trump fan, then she is, I guess, I don't know.
Then she went nuts over.
I mean, this Kamala Harris.
Okay, fine.
But see, she doesn't do it.
There's no lighthearted anything.
Kamala Harris isn't black.
She's Indian and she's Jamaican.
She's a black.
And I'm going to show you with the straight talk and the way she does it.
Israel and Carla Harris.
And then with Brigitte Macron, that's going to, she's done.
They're going to destroy her.
They're going to destroy her.
And the audience says, hey, that's great.
Come on, come on.
Come on.
Oh, we love Candy.
Why?
Because they don't have the audience doesn't have any skin in the game.
There's no investment.
You just want to see somebody jump off a cliff.
You just laugh at you, but they just laugh at this.
They don't care about Candace Owens.
They want to see everybody come after her.
They want to see people ruined because people want blood.
It's like a gladiator sport.
It's the weirdest thing.
Oh, I like her.
She tells the truth.
The truth, you're going to find out about this.
Look, remember what I'm telling you.
Pick the hill you want to die on.
It's a very, very simple thing we're talking about here.
And it's so strange.
But the latest, have you heard this?
She's suggesting that what, Trump had something to do with it?
I guess Charlie was the one.
Charlie told me.
I've took out an insurance policy.
If anything happens to me, I sent to everyone the text from Charlie because I'm so big, so important, so that they're going to come in off me, some Mossad jackal, some, what was the name of those?
The assassin teams is like, Candace, please.
Look, I understand you're upset.
He was your friend, but for God's sakes, lay off this Israel Zionism seething rage, not the subject matter.
Nobody's saying that.
You and half the world are suggesting.
No, nobody's talking about this.
But what is it?
Are you unglued?
Do you need medication?
Is this worth it?
Pick the hill you want to die on.
And now people are backing off.
I was listening to Alex.
I still think Alex is the greatest.
Number one, OG, first, first in line.
And even he says, I don't know what's going on.
Are you seeing this?
I don't know.
I mean, I like Candace, but what is happening to her?
And I really think she is absolutely brilliant, brilliant, but she's reckless.
And you're going to throw it all away for what?
Your end is going to be Brigitte Macron.
Nobody cares about that.
Nobody.
What is it with you?
It's this petty, mean girl nastiness.
Nobody cares.
I mean, somebody may pretend like I think it's kind of interesting whether she's a man or not.
But nobody's losing sleep over.
Nobody cares.
People have lives.
It's the president's wife of another country.
What are you so worried about?
What are you talking about?
That's what I'd be like, oh my God, I don't know what's happening.
Now, let me tell you something.
She can just say goodbye to Trump and everybody else.
What's the purpose of this?
The thing you've got to do is always stay in the game.
Stay in the game.
Once you're out of it, you're of no use to anybody.
Nobody remembers your last stand.
Hey, where's Candace?
I don't know.
But wasn't her last stand great?
No, what was it?
I don't know.
It was something.
Nobody gives a damn whether you're in there.
She didn't care.
She told the truth.
You can't saddle me with this.
You can't sideline me.
God damn it.
I'm going to say what I want.
Candace, nobody cares.
Why are you doing this?
Once you come across as a nut, then you lose it.
Then the next issue that comes along, you've already forfeited any kind of legitimate gravitas because you're acting like a fool last time.
Here we go again.
And then you're going to turn it up to an 11 again.
Are you going to lose your mind?
You know who's doing this?
Is that Anna Kasparian?
Anna Kasparian.
Nobody gave a damn who she was.
She was with Junk Yogurt.
Always sweating and screaming and yelling.
And he's losing his mind and he's on with the Piers Morgan.
Oh, why do people go in Piers Morgan and Piers is making a fool out of you?
Junk looks like he takes like Crisco and like rubs it on his face and he sweats and he looks painful like he's gonna just throw up or something.
And Anna Kasparian, she's got those little, those little arrows in the corner.
Okay.
Her whole thing is, hey, I've made it now.
I'm mainstream.
And she and Abby Martin are trying to figure out who feels, who's empathic enough, who feels Gaza more?
Do they do?
Or the Palestinians?
Oh, no.
Abby Martin does.
Oh, you Palestinians, you think you're upset?
If you've lost your family, lost your life, life, your home.
No, not like Abby Martin and not like Anna Kasparian.
Oh, they feel it.
Well, move over.
Here comes Candace out of her mind, seething enraged.
It's not.
She, where have you been?
All of a sudden, she's here.
God damn it.
She's going to get to the bottom of this.
Balfour Declaration, my ass.
Excuse me.
I remember Vietnam.
That was a war we were in.
This isn't my first rodeo.
You don't shoot your wad on something and then that's it.
You're spent and you're through.
And then what next?
Everything's an 11.
You're not doing anybody any good.
It's sad when you can't even tell a new one.
It's like, what is she upset about?
It's always the same.
I'm always yelling.
Abby Martin, bless her heart.
One time I'm just going through YouTube and obviously goes, they're killing babies.
No, stop, stop, stop.
Every war, every skirmish, every military action involves killing babies.
This is not going to work.
This is like, what is this?
The lowest level there is?
This for children?
Is this it?
Do you not understand the complexity of this?
Must you lose your mind in this?
Even during Vietnam, even Jane Fond, Abby Hoffman, SDS, Bill Ayers, the Weathermen.
I mean, these were hardcore.
These folks would blow things up.
These were as radical as you could get.
These people, they never lost their minds like that.
By the way, I need your likes on this.
And this is going straight.
This is just plain old YouTube.
Nobody else.
No Twitter, no Facebook, no nothing, just you.
That's it.
I'm talking just to you now.
See, I don't understand.
My thing is, do you want to make the point?
Yeah, well, don't lose your mind in the meantime.
It's just like here in New York, we have this, oh, they've lost their minds with this Curtis Lee one Cuomo.
I can't even talk to people anymore.
I can't talk.
I think Curtis has lost his mind.
I really do.
Or sold out or sold.
I don't know, or sold in.
It's nuts.
Does anybody know how to talk about anything anymore?
You ever see Noam Chomsky lose his stuff?
Bill Buckley?
Well, except for the enemies of the state.
But no, they don't lose their mind, but you do and we do.
And I don't understand why that is.
You can't go through.
Listen, we're turning this into a joke.
This is a joke.
I'm not saying you have to.
You can't laugh.
Be very serious about it, but give me something and speak to me like somebody who's the pilot of a ship, who's very cool and calculated.
But this is ridiculous.
There's something wrong when you're screaming and yelling at somebody.
It's that Piers Morgan school where they want you to go and scream at each other.
I don't understand that.
It's interesting for a minute and then it's boring and you can't hear anything.
Like they get this clown destiny.
They bring him out just to just so he'll he'll fight with somebody.
I don't grasp it.
I don't understand what's happening.
But Candace in particular, oh my God.
I don't know what she was going through.
I don't know what she was doing.
I have no idea what this was about.
I don't know if she's taking a hiatus.
I think she's taking some kind of a hiatus or something.
I don't know.
I can't watch the whole.
Mrs. L and I were listening tonight.
We went to a, we had a date night on the way back.
We're listening in the U-Go stretch.
We're listening to Eliezer Yutkowski about the threat of AI, AGI.
That's something.
He's not screaming.
He's talking about an existential threat to humanity.
Nobody's screaming.
Where did this screaming come from?
Where did you, where did you get this from?
Where did this come from?
Where is this?
Where did this screaming come from?
Where is this?
Explain this one to me.
Is this, do you like this?
Do you enjoy this?
Do you not get bored?
How fast do you say, okay, you screamed, I've heard it.
Now what are you going to do?
The idea is to prolong, to basically expand upon your routine to do your thing.
Now, there's a lot going on right now, but blaming Trump for this, we're losing our mind.
The radical left, all they care about is the fact that Trump is refurbishing and redecorating the White House, which every president, I think, FDR, Taft, Truman for sure, JFK, Obama put in the basketball court.
Hello, got rid of Vitesko, put in a basketball court.
All right.
Maybe somebody can put in a bachi cord.
We can do that one.
Or maybe a tetherball court.
That'd be a good one.
But that's all these people have to do.
That's all they have to do.
They have to scream and yell about that.
They're the same way.
Whatever happened to rational thought?
That's the best you can do.
And by the way, you do know that Trump didn't get all the permits.
But they say Trump's a builder.
He didn't get not every that you can't just do whatever you want to the White House.
You do know that, right?
I mean, it is a national treasure.
And there are groups of people that you must go through first.
You do realize this.
I'm not telling you anything you don't know.
And I don't know if Trump did this.
I don't know if Trump went through all of them.
You know what I mean?
I'm not sure.
I don't know if Trump.
I don't know.
But that's it.
That's it.
Anybody's, even they're not yelling and screaming about this.
Who's yelling and screaming?
Maybe who?
Maybe the maybe the Sonny Hostins, I guess.
I don't know.
Even Megan Kelly, who, by the way, is very entertaining.
She's not losing her mind.
Nobody's yelling.
Nobody seems.
If you don't see at least the absurdity of something, you're not going to make this for very long.
Now, let me tell you what's happening right now, which is really strange.
Oh, Sol says, grabbed a coffee today.
And most of the Starbucks baristas look like they fell face first into a tackle box.
Come on, man.
Wow, that's so interesting.
Face first into a tackle box.
What's that mean?
The hooks, the weights?
What does that mean?
Oh, Stephen A. Smith, another one too.
A joke.
A joke.
Oh, you can make a lot of money during a joke.
It's not going to last for a long time.
It's just, but what are you going to do?
Nobody takes him seriously.
He's not the intellectual vunderkind of anybody.
Come on.
No, but that's not it.
I mean, there's, it's, but, but there's something that, why are they women?
They've just discovered Israel.
They've just discovered Zionism.
They just discovered it.
Now, when I say just discovered it, they've been talking about it for years, but it's like, do you know there's Mad Max says Candace is stealing Stephen A. Smith's act?
Well, could be, but, you know, and I, I'm sorry.
Stephen A. Smith, I, I don't know if I've ever even listened to him.
I really don't know what he's about.
I just, I have no interest in that one.
None.
I just see the routine.
And his whole thing is, I'm going to go form over substance.
Even Cat Williams is good.
Kat, I think, is the best.
And this isn't a black motif.
I just love to watch whatever he does.
But you know, Sol says Candace is stealing Kanye's act.
I don't know about that.
You know, I don't know.
Kanye, did you see, by the way, did you see Kim Kardashian's kid with Kanye?
What the hell's the matter with this kid?
You know what else people are whispering?
Whether any of Kim Kardashian's kids can even read.
Do they go to school?
I don't know.
Rumors abound.
We're not even sure whether Kid Kardashian can read.
How's her law degree going?
Huh?
Does she read for the bar?
Read for the bar yet?
Now, let me tell you what's happening in New York.
You're going to love this.
You ready for this?
You ready for this?
You're going to love this.
You're going to love this one.
Now, follow this.
First, everybody in New York, who is anybody, everybody does not want Zoran Mamdani to get near the thing.
Nobody pronounces his name, Mandani.
Nobody.
Nobody's read his name.
Nobody pronounces his name correctly.
Okay.
Curtis Lewa, another one, has lost his mind.
And I love the guy.
And I was talking to a friend of mine last night.
You may not remember, but my old buddy Bruce Anderson, we were on the phone laughing hysterically.
I said, you're not going to believe about Bruce.
He's Bruce.
About Curtis, because we all worked together with Curtis and WABZ in 93.
I mean, he's like lost his mind.
So Bill Ackman, heavy, Jewish, pro-Israel, Zionist, whatever backer.
Okay, fine.
Excuse me.
Have you ever met a really strong Zionist before?
Yeah.
It's okay.
It's not against the law.
It's a, you may disagree with it, but they make Zionism out to be like it's a mental illness.
Now, you may disagree with it.
You may disagree with it.
I understand it.
But if you really think that people who are signed, whether you agree with it, it doesn't really matter.
It doesn't matter.
It's this hip thing.
If you want to be in the Katie Halper group, if you want to be in the Max Blumenthal and the Aaron Mate and the Judge Nepalitano and everybody else, you've got to just, you've got to just, if I say Zionism, you've got to go into this Pavlovian.
What I'm saying is, I understand the intellectual thing.
Lay off the histrionics.
Talk to me normally about it.
Nobody acts like they do.
It's like they just discovered it.
You know what I mean?
It's like they just discovered it.
Okay, so follow this.
So Bill Ackman, Bill Ackman, gajillionaire in New York.
A number of prominent, prominent industry leaders and the like, including so many, so many people.
Go down the list.
So what they're doing is they're suggesting this.
The New York Daily News, the Daily News, which is a lefty paper, if it's even around, the New York Post, conservative Fox, Ruben Murna, they're both saying drop out.
Everybody's saying, Curtis, drop out.
Curtis ran against Eric Adam last time.
Eric Adams is mentally retarded.
Curtis lost by 40 points against a retardate.
Let me say that again.
40 points.
40.
You could put him on a, I don't want to make any retarded jokes, but put him on a bus, put a helmet on him, whatever it is.
And that's Eric Adams.
And whenever you see Eric Adams, just do this.
This is terrible.
Terrible.
He's out of it.
He's like a nut.
40 points.
So Curtis, why?
New York is 70% Democrat.
Now, if Curtis went to Mesa, Arizona, he wouldn't even have to run.
They'll elevate him through canonization.
Sparky says, you're right, Lionel.
Israel, Israelis, and Zionists are awesome and are superiors.
That's not right.
See, you're going to miss the point again.
You're going to miss the point again.
And you're the one too.
You're out of your tree without one.
You've lost your mind.
You can't even, you act like you figured this out, Sparky, and I love you.
You act like you just figured this out.
And the communists are going to say, I know the con, I got it.
Whatever it is.
You act like, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to cover this one.
You've been watching these people for so long, you've lost perspective.
Nobody's arguing that you're wrong, but your reaction, you're like the Galloways and it's like, you're like, okay, I got it.
Even during Vietnam, we never said this.
What is it?
It's because we're all, you know, what's the word?
We're just in the world of social media.
Turn it up.
You got to scream and yell.
Nobody can speak like Noam Chomsky anymore.
Nobody can.
And if you don't mix or come back with this frenetic out of control of lunacy, somehow it's like, you don't get it.
Oh, that's right.
The Zionists.
And it's like this haughty superiority, like they know something.
Do me a favor.
I'm going to tell you something, and I mean this.
And I'm sorry.
In this country, I'd say 90% of the people don't know what a Zionist is.
They don't care about this.
And it's not because they're heartless, not because they're stupid.
They worry about America.
But you're worried about it and you can't sleep about it.
So I got to do a, and listen, the argument can be made.
Are we giving aid?
Good point.
Should we be involved in this?
Good point.
Good questions.
Absolutely.
But nobody cares about this.
Nobody's losing sleep except a handful of people.
A handful of people in respect to the, or in compared to the, the, the, uh, same thing with Ukraine.
I think that's important.
People aren't even, there's no version of the Candace losing her mind over Ukraine thing, over the Zelensky thing.
But the anti-Zionist people are their elitist.
They think they're smarter than you.
They feel more.
And if you don't even, if you don't hit 90% of their ferocity and their single focus preoccupation, you're a sellout or you're a, I don't know what it is.
And I've seen this before.
And that's great.
And nobody cares about it.
I mean, seriously, the majority of people, they don't know what you're talking about.
A lot of people say, look, God bless you.
I wish you the best.
This is America.
We're worried about this.
So going back to what I said, you've got Bill Ackman.
And Bill Ackman says to Curtis, hey, Curtis, step down.
Why?
Is Curtis anti-Zionist?
No.
But Curtis, let me see.
There we go.
Let me close this down.
Oh, Sparky.
I know you've become, you've been watching Katie Halper too long and Abby Martin.
You're into that focus.
You're into that thing where you're into the groove.
You're like it's a cult.
It's like, wow, I'm going to show you.
I'm going to show you how I, you, oh, God.
It's so annoying.
It's, they, they think that it, it, it's not the, it's not the argument.
It's the volume.
It's this haughtiness.
It's this, what's the word?
This certitude.
They're smarter than you like us.
You don't understand what we're concerned about.
Curtis turned to Ackman and said, you're an idiot.
You're a fool.
You think you play tennis.
I'm not step.
I'm not dropping out of the election.
I'm not going to do that.
Okay.
So let me see here.
So this has been going on forever and ever.
So now you also have these morons here in New York, these people who love the fact that Curtis is running and they don't understand that Mom Dani is going to win.
Now, because Mom Dani hates Israel as much as they do, and again, I'm just giving you the facts, and said he would arrest B.B. Danyahu, which is complete bullshit because he has no jurisdiction.
U.S. isn't even part of the ICC or the ICJ.
Whether you like it or not, it's a different story.
It doesn't matter.
But because he said it, oh, everybody just loves Mom Dani.
They think he's great.
Oh, here we go.
All the original episodes of the White House were ripped off by Truman and became the landfill for the baseball field where Steve Scalise was shot.
Very interesting.
And by the way, to be clear, some rumors have it that Trump wants to basically tear everything down, put his name on it.
I wouldn't be surprised.
I wouldn't be surprised.
You know how Trump is.
You know how he is.
He is a wild man.
Okay.
Okay.
That notwithstanding.
So anyway, so go back to what I'm saying.
So Bill Ackman, the, as you would say, the Zionist billionaire, he doesn't want Mom Danny in for whatever the reason.
I don't want Mom Danny in because he'll destroy the police, destroy infrastructure.
So me and Ackman are like this, okay?
When it comes to Mom Danny.
Now, a lot of other people who are rational says, I like mom Dani.
What?
Why?
Because of his ostensible hatred of Israel.
So now I'm thinking, wait a minute, this is the, oh, Crystal Ball, the 12-year-old.
Oh, it's another one.
Or another woman.
She just discovered Israel.
She just figured it out.
She's more empathic as to the plight of the Palestinians than you are.
See, you don't understand.
Crystal Ball does.
Even Sager says, okay, I understand it because he's smarter.
He understands this has been going on.
We have to explain this.
Anyway, so that's right.
Crystal Ball, Anna Kasparian, Abby Martin, and Candace.
Oh, they feel it.
They feel it more.
You think you, it's like auto mourn.
They feel it more than you do.
So now I got Crystal Ball and these other people who like Mom Donnie.
They don't live in this goddamn city.
And the reason they want him is because of this stupid throwaway condition or thought that he has regarding B.B. Nanyahu, which has absolutely nothing to do with the governance of New York City.
So here I am.
The people who I might have listened to before regarding their thoughts on Israel, now I'm turning because they want Mom Danny in.
And this one guy, Bill Ackman, who I might not have been that crazy about politically, now I'm aligned with him because he's against Mom Donnie.
Whoever's against Zoran, I'm with you.
See how that works?
You see how that works?
So now there's a whole bunch of folks.
Now, here's the best part.
There's a whole bunch of lefties who are scared shitless about Zoran Mom Dani coming in.
But now they've got to turn and say, wait a minute.
Why do you want him?
Because of his stance on Israel.
He's the mayor of New York.
It has nothing to do with it.
He can't do anything.
He's full of it.
He's a sock puppet.
Do you see what's going on?
So this is like this singular issue, Israel, that has nothing to do with the race.
And you also happen to be in this city with the highest population.
I forget what the population is, but there are more Jews in New York City than any place else.
And whether you like it or not, it's a reality.
And to use the Mirror Shaw, by the way, Mearsheimer doesn't get upset about this.
Governor, I mean, Governor, Colonel McGregor doesn't get upset about this.
And Mearsheimer is a realist.
So you see what we're doing?
You see what we're doing?
So now I'm, these people have this one singular issue, this one issue.
And each of them trying to, let me tell you something.
Give me an example.
There's something called auto mourn.
I think I've told you about that.
Auto mourn is when somebody dies.
What is with this thing freezing?
Somebody dies in the world of business, okay?
Or let me say, excuse me, entertainment.
So somebody dies.
And you go online and you say, oh, my God.
Who died?
So-and-so died.
Who?
So-and-so.
So-and-so died.
You know, the guy who played Ralph Mao.
I'm just saying.
I don't know.
He didn't die, but let's just assume somebody dies.
And you feel it.
No words.
No words.
I've got no words.
You've got no words.
No, I've got no words.
What does that mean?
You've got no words.
I'm just so upset over this.
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