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Sept. 15, 2025 - Lionel Nation
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The World Responds to Charlie Kirk’s Ass*ssination Like Never Before

The World Responds to Charlie Kirk’s Ass*ssination Like Never Before

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The momentum is exploding.
It's like nothing I have ever seen ever.
This is enormous.
We're going to talk about the absolute cold play is honoring Charlie Kirk.
They don't know what to do.
Every one of these horrible people who've said terrible things, their names and addresses and contacts are being collated so that they can be dealt with accordingly.
In terms of comments from people as to their employers.
Oh my friends.
Sit back.
Sit back, dear friends, and enjoy the ride.
I'm so glad you could join us.
I'm so glad you were here.
We needed you.
I waited for you.
I've never seen anything like this.
Let us talk about this.
Let us describe.
But first, let me say something again.
And this is critical.
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Dear friends, since we spoke last.
Oh dear God.
Have you been watching this?
If you go to my Twitter feed at Lionel Media, look.
It's exploding.
Everybody.
And the stragglers, the ones who didn't get the message, the ones like the Japanese soldiers who don't know the war is over.
They're getting the message.
Maybe too late.
Even the rock's daughter.
They don't care who it is.
They will teach you a lesson.
We have had it.
Pay attention to what is happening in the world right now.
Focus on this.
Focus as to what is happening.
Please.
Or whatever you want to talk about.
We'll talk about that later.
Because right now there is a revolution.
Not in the streets, torches and barricades and tiki lamps or whatever it is, but in the hearts of millions who are mourning and grieving in ways they never thought possible.
And at the same time, at the same time, they're rising up in love and solidarity for Charlie Kirk.
Don't ruin the momentum by saying, yes, we love Charlie.
But it's Israel.
Or it's I don't know.
It's the grapers.
The gripers.
Yep.
Then you got to explain what a griper isn't, Nick.
20s, and waste your time.
Some of us could screw up a wet dream.
We are being handed the opportunity.
We're saying, no, I want to talk about that other stuff I love.
Not now.
Not now.
Why don't people get it?
I don't understand it.
The outpouring of mourning, the sorrow.
This like this, this funereal, everybody around South Korea.
Tonga.
The sense of loss, it is not just an event or a headline.
It's a moment in history.
Political history.
And history doesn't wait.
I don't think people really understand this.
Charlie Kirk has hit people.
I never thought possible.
His passing, his death, his murder, his assassination became something, something even bigger than politics.
Bigger than one man, bigger than any event or organization that he built.
It has become, my friend, a symbol.
A symbol that work and symbols matter.
Semiotics matter.
Symbology matters.
What we are witnessing is the spark of something new in American life.
A collective awakening.
People who never paid attention to politics ever.
People who never thought, who never gave conservative politics, the Bible, Christianity, uh MAGA a chance.
They're coming around.
People who thought Washington was far away and meaningless, they're coming around.
They're now awake, they're alert and asking questions.
And the sleeping giant has awakened.
The bear has been poked, whatever you call it, and it's wide awake.
Don't let this moment pass.
There are two reactions.
The murder itself, who did it, who was behind it, how it was carried out.
Was there anybody else involved?
Was there any motivation?
Conspirators' accomplices.
That's over here.
That's one issue.
And the other issue is the world's mourning.
The political reaction to this, the political fallout.
That's what I want to talk about.
Now I know people want to talk about conspiracies.
I know I don't blame you.
It's fun, isn't it?
Sure it is.
They want to talk about shadowy figures in Europe or Israel or about dark teams and alphabet agents.
I know.
I I've been doing this longer than you have.
That temptation is real.
And trust me, those discussions will come.
I promise you.
But not now.
Because right now, my friend, right now, the single most important thing for us to focus on is not rabbit holes or what have you.
That's the distractions.
It's how this moment will shape the midterm elections.
Those is those issues will be here.
You might be saying yourself, one of the reasons why he might not be talking is because there's no evidence against him.
Okay, fine, we'll get to that later.
Maybe he's not talking because he's not the guy, and he's a padsy.
We'll talk about that later.
Maybe because he never really had a gun, but talk about that later.
And you know whatever the government's telling you, you can't believe.
But how we shape the midterm, how it will reshape the electoral landscape of this nation for years to come, that is the battlefield that matters.
And only the immature child, only the political tyro, only this kind of um juvenescent little Eddie Haskell type who loves to talk about will say, not now.
If you go to a funeral for your beloved grandma, people are crying, and you get up and you start talking about the high cost funerals, and the the and you ever know you know how they embalm, you know what a troll car is?
Not now.
Well, it's true.
I know.
Many of our group, they're the same, they're the same.
How do I say this?
They they They are the same in terms of being awkward as anybody else's.
It's like nothing I've ever seen.
They are so awkward.
Really?
I'm not.
I'm not just I'm not just, I'm not just just saying this.
They are beyond awkward.
It's the strangest thing I've ever seen in my life.
It's like they don't know this.
It's like they want to get out in front.
And everybody here, and listen, everybody's got the persona, and I dig this.
I love all this stuff.
Please don't ever give up on this.
Please don't give up on the questions.
Please don't.
Please don't.
Don't let any country or agency or government or whatever off the hook.
Please, I beg you.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Please.
But the question I do ask is simply this.
How is it that we're supposed to figure these things out?
Without.
Without missing something which is so important.
Maybe try this again, my friends.
It's the political moment that's the most important right now.
That's what's the most important.
That's what's the most critical.
That is what I cannot explain to you enough.
Is so beyond important.
This is changing something.
I listed New Jersey, which is prototypically historically so you know, liberal or whatever the word is, you can't even uh believe it.
You cannot believe how liberal it is.
What's even interesting is that you're seeing at colleges in schools and in towns that were liberal strongholds, now showing an outpouring of love for Charlie Kirk.
Because the people who were feeling this never understood this notion of what it is he stood for.
Charlie Kirk did something very few people have been able to do in recent years.
He connected with the young.
Let me say this again.
Poor reception.
Poor reception.
Interesting, interesting, interesting.
Glitching, huh?
Let me see something.
I wonder why that is.
Let me try something.
If I were to hit something.
Who is seeing me okay?
Very quickly.
Give me a five by five.
Who is seeing me fine without any problems?
Who?
Anybody?
Anybody see it?
Anybody bad?
Anybody?
Let me see something here.
Um let me try this.
See if this is any different.
You've been having some very weird, weird connections.
Anybody see bad reception?
Sound is still glitchy, jumpy.
Stan says five by five.
Is this any better?
One by five.
I don't know what that one means.
I've never heard one by five.
Not me.
Figure's breaking up.
Let me see something.
I've got I'm gonna close some things down here.
Let me see here and here and here.
And uh let me see.
I know what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna give it to something.
This may help something.
Bad sound, just a minute.
Just a minute.
I'm gonna try one more thing.
One more thing, and then we're gonna give it a shot.
One more thing, and then we're gonna make it maybe go away.
We'll see.
We'll give it a shot.
Hang on a minute.
Ah, the the rigors of high tech standby.
So much for high tech.
And we'll close that.
Close this down.
One more time.
You see something.
Let me see if this makes any difference.
Let me see.
I'm gonna try something right now, just for the heck of it.
You ready for this?
Good luck.
Let's see what happens.
Okay?
Okay.
Okay.
Let's see if that's any better at all.
Any better?
Any better, my friends?
Oh, wait a second.
I'm blind, sounding better, missing any better.
Perfect.
Okay, maybe that was it.
Anyone else?
Anyone else?
Not all right.
Anybody?
Yep.
Good.
Yep.
Good.
Now what is critical?
What is important?
What I have to say to you right now.
Is that we've never seen anything like this before?
I have been trying for the longest time, and I've been asking people, how is it that we're supposed to get to people?
How is it that we're supposed to get to folks in the world?
Let me change my camera.
I don't like that camera.
I like that camera.
I like this one here.
There we go.
This is better.
That's better.
Now, how is it that we're supposed to get to young people?
And for the longest time, I said, I don't know.
I honestly got I I never went.
Batt again, buffering.
Hmm.
Let me see something here.
Let me try something.
I might be the camera.
Just a minute.
Just a minute.
Interesting, interesting.
Let me try this.
Is uh is this better?
Is this better now?
Is that better?
See if that works.
See if that works.
How's this?
By the way, the commercials have been have been uh toned down, irregular, looks blurred.
No, interesting.
Let me see something.
I'm gonna continue.
I'm gonna try one more time and then we'll probably throw the whole thing away if that doesn't work.
I don't want to because I'm not done yet.
This is this is too this message is too critical.
I want to make sure people got this stuff.
Um see something right here.
Let me see if that makes any sense.
Let me try this.
Let me try this.
Is that any better?
Just a minute.
Uh okay, let me see.
Is that any better?
The timing is off, freezing up.
Voice blurred.
You can okay.
Hang on a minute.
Timing is up.
That's weird.
It's so strange because I've shut down everything.
I've never had this before.
Someone says yes, yes, yes.
Oh, five by five.
Okay, good.
I think I know what it is.
Okay, my friends.
Is that better?
Oh, wait, good.
Five out of five.
Good.
I think I know what it is.
I think I know what it is, my friend.
Listen, thank you.
Sorry for the sorry for that.
What are you gonna do?
In any event, uh, I wanted to very good.
Great, great, great, good, good, good.
I'm sorry.
Again, my apology for that.
Um, by the way, Mrs. L has a brand new uh interview today with the thumbnail all groovy.
And I want you to hear that one.
Charlie Kirk, we were telling today, Charlie Kirk connected with the young, like we've never seen, and I'm telling you, I I I know that that may sound boring.
I've never seen it, I think.
These people have been connecting with people like Zoran Mom, Donnie, maybe Bermysant, Bi Britney Santa, maybe they're freaking out.
He connected with students with people who had been written off, ignored, and completely dismissed by both parties.
I don't understand that.
He told them that the voice voice counted, and he said some things which believe it or not, I think this is the most important.
I think there's the most the most important.
There are gonna be some people who say, but he pre he uh uh promoted hate.
No, he didn't.
He talked about uh trans.
It doesn't matter.
The young people are telling you it doesn't matter.
The young people are saying it doesn't matter, it's not critical.
The young people are saying it's not important to you.
This is important to us.
He connected, and I don't know why.
He was still very uncorrect.
He built turning point USA from a dorm room idea, sounds like a Zuckerberg, into A 100 plus million dollar powerhouse with thousands of chapters nationwide.
Nobody knew it was this big.
He created a student army, and in the wake of his death, that army is not retreating, it is expanding like they can't believe.
Membership is surging.
Chapters are multiplying.
That's why I don't want to talk yet about a book that appeared on Amazon.
Enrollment is up by the thousands.
And the silver lining, my friend.
The silver lining, if you will, the resurrection of a movement through tragedy, where the enemy sought to silence an entire group of us, a voice.
The echo has become louder than ever.
This is the part.
People of all ages.
I and there's also something which is the most important.
The people who themselves are watching this are caught up in the same momentum, the same momentum that causes negativity.
The same momentum.
It's incredible.
Pilgrim says, I would love to be a fly on the interrogation.
We'll see about that.
As many are saying, you know, how do we know he even did this?
You know, we don't know.
First, I think you should know this.
Do you believe anything that you hear?
Anything from the or from the uh um government?
Anything at all?
Do you believe any stories?
Do you believe any any any anything?
Do you believe anything from the government whatsoever?
Anything?
Do you if they tell you this, do you believe it?
I don't.
So I don't even care right now.
I'm seeing is she cooperating as the little fuzzy wuzzy, whatever cooperating.
I don't know.
I don't believe I don't know.
That's what they say.
Cash Patel, worthless.
It is important now for the team to figure out and talk to Erica, because there's nobody on that team that can go out and carry the ball.
Let me ask you something.
Who do you think would what would appeal to young people today?
Who?
Stephen Miller?
This Donald Pleasant's uh uh whatever.
I heard a great cash patel description.
Somebody said that.
Cash Patel looked like the cartoon hypnotist, and somebody said as he he looks like Charlie Manson is whispering in his ear.
I love that.
There's nobody in the in the administration today who can possibly, possibly do a better job.
Nobody.
There is nobody today.
There is nobody today.
Think about it.
Who?
Caroline Levitt.
Do you think she connects with young people?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Elon, well, Elon's not really there.
Who?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I have no uh Scott Pressler.
Scott Pressler is doing an incredible job.
It's a very good one.
Maybe he.
I don't know this.
This I don't know.
But what I do know is simply this.
What we are seeing is so incredible.
I I am just feeling elated.
People of all ages.
This sounds like a commercial for like a circus.
People of all ages, but especially the the young are finding, finding themselves standing up.
They're saying this isn't just about Charlie.
This is about us, it's about our future.
It's about something.
I I don't know why.
Don't worry.
Ben Shapiro, no way.
Ben Shapiro, keep Ben away.
Ben's gonna try, he's a vulture.
I know that Erica is saying, Ben, you're not gonna get near Turning Point.
You're not gonna get near it.
So you can kill it and filled with whatever.
Charlie, for whatever reason, like the rest of the world, was indicating, showing some kind of questioning as to the particular activities and goings On of the Israeli army, the the the IDF, the uh the movement, the the allegations of genocide and ethnic cleansing and apartheid in Gaza, Palestinian, like nothing else.
At the end, Charlie brought that up.
Do you think they're saying that that was his dispatch?
No.
Because you've got to connect him back to him.
You see how you see what I'm doing right now?
I'm stopping this wonderful discussion about what Charlie meant, and we're stopping, and we're saying now if Tyler was an agent, or maybe he wasn't an agent, maybe maybe he was a patsy, maybe somebody else did it.
Maybe somebody told him, hey, Tyler, go on top of that roof and hang out, and uh and then get down and and stick that that rifle down me.
See what I'm doing?
See what's happening?
You see?
I've stopped this wonderful pause, and the young people are leaving the room already.
They don't care about this.
They don't care about moon landings or fluoride in the water, they really don't.
See, that's why this moment matters.
That's why this is not just another tragic story.
This is a turning point, literally and figuratively.
Now I want you to picture the political class right now.
The consultants, the polsters, the strategists on both sides.
They're staring at charge and they're trying to figure out how how to measure this way, but you can't measure passion.
You can't put a number on outrage or or or grief transformed into anti uh action.
It doesn't work.
You can't pull a sleeping giant that just woke up.
What you can do is underestimated, and that I assure you, is what the left is doing right now.
Do you see the rock's daughter?
Even she's away, they won't stop.
They don't get it.
They're good, they're good, they're laughing at this.
And everybody right now, there are might be who knows, it might even be somebody like a dare I say, and uh a uh palantier or someone who scours metadata, pulls all of this together and says, Listen, you better earn your keep now.
Okay.
Here are all the people.
Here's all of the pieces.
Here's the plus there's just individual sleuths going after them.
And the next thing you know, there are uh uh office depots and FedExes and stores and bakeries, and one woman had this, they basically had to shut down all of their online, they got Yelp reviews on one-to-one.
They were like negatively doxxed by this.
They didn't understand this.
These people are whistling past the graveyard pretending this is just another news cycle.
They don't get it.
This is not another story.
This is not the story.
Because when Americans see one of their own struck down, don't interrupt this grief parade.
Don't let him do this.
This is a point.
The overlords are laughing, the overlords are laughing.
Who are the overlords?
Uh, Gracie.
I don't understand.
The overlords are scared out of their mind.
This wasn't supposed to be.
This wasn't supposed to be.
Sometimes things don't, sometimes things surprise even the bad guys.
October the 7th was never meant to be like that.
That was not supposed to turn out like that, but it did.
This is this is a different world.
This is something I can't put in to work.
Belfast pulled Stephen King's books for his comment.
Yes, Stephen King walking down the street wherever he is, looking dead, looking dead, looking as though he he's just even uh Larry Tribe saying, I'm sorry, I made a mistake, apologizing.
They never apologize.
Americans have seen one of their own struck down for daring to speak words alone, but words alone, but incitement.
When they see young people mocked for caring about their country, when they see the contempt of the elite for ordinary voices, something happens.
Something happens.
How do you become an overlord?
I don't know, or an or an Uberlord, or an or a uh let's call Hinterybody.
Thank you.
Something's this is something incredible.
Something ancient and primal.
It is called unity.
But keep Ben Shapiro away.
Keep this politics free.
No.
Talk about him.
Talk about the message.
The unity, the Christianity, the power of faith, the power of family.
Don't say transgender.
Don't say it.
Don't think it.
Don't bring it up.
We have run that to death.
That is old.
That has become our climate change.
Our global warming.
It's like enough.
Enough with this.
They don't understand it.
You are not going to make it comes across devices.
And by the way, fascism and things like that.
I don't know.
This is, I've never, it's as though God.
I hope this wasn't done on purpose, but as though God is saying, okay, you wanted you wanted your prayers answered?
You never saw it coming with this.
These are your prayers answered.
Not Charlie's death, obviously not, but the reaction to this.
And so I say this.
Put the conspiracy talk aside for now.
And it's not really conspiracy talk, but I call it that because you understand.
It will not move the needle in this moment.
What it will will move is the needle, what the move the needle is is focused.
Organization maturity.
You see, that's what Charlie would want.
Not chaos, not division, not growth, but he would want turning point in USA for one reason to empower people.
That's what he did.
And if you truly honor him, if that's your thing, if you really want to pick up the mantle, you will join chapters.
You will spread the message.
You will build the future he envisioned.
And let me tell you something.
He was scary.
Because a lot of those people who are involved today, they don't know what to do.
Don't think for a moment that they liked him.
He scared them.
There was nobody in the world of opinion whose word mattered more than Charlie Kirk.
No way.
No way.
Rush Limbaugh had that, but I say he's even bigger than Rush.
Rush only played to his core.
Charlie Kirk affected people who didn't even listen to politics, who didn't care.
You can't say that about Rush.
There were people who said, you know what, I didn't care about politics or voting or left or right.
But Rush Limbaugh I like so much.
Whatever he says, I'm behind it.
No, it doesn't work that way.
Thousands of young people who once felt disenfranchised now have a mission.
They're not just fighting back against censorship against woke indoctrination against the corruption of academia.
No, no, no.
They're fighting for Charlie.
That's the one that got their attention.
And that is a cause no one can explain.
No one can extinguish.
That is a cause that carries the kind of emotional fuel that campaigns are dream of.
The other day, Mrs. L and I were, I wanted to pick her up a subject for a sense, and I was waiting, and there's a kind of a tea place, I don't know what it is, in the in the hood.
And all of a sudden, there was this swarm, this like map mass of young people, some Asian, I'm not sure, but they were looking at their phones and scanning something.
They were responding to a TikTok event or something.
I don't know what it was.
Indeed, Pilgrim says Charlie took it to the masses, uh, bridging divides.
He absolutely did.
He absolutely did.
And and what I saw was this is a different world that I mean I I love this.
There is a bagel place that is so huge, just on word alone.
Have you ever seen Crispy Pizza?
Crispy Pizzas, one in Brooklyn, one in Old Bridge.
I don't know where.
But the one in Brooklyn, the guy, Frank.
I gotta go there.
I've got to go to Crispy Pizza.
Gotta go.
Gotta meet him.
Thank you.
This is a different.
Those people who will do anything if it's cool.
Remember, what was that honey?
We were walking out.
What was it?
When they were walking out in the middle of the street with their phones.
Pokemon.
Pokemon.
Remember that?
They were walking out into streets, all of a sudden they show up and their phones.
That was kind of a beta test for something else, but but the because they were getting all that information in the data.
These people will do anything for you.
If they think uh you know, voting is cool, they'll vote.
This is the kind of energy that wins elections.
It flips seats and it creates realignment.
Do you understand?
Do you understand?
Do you understand?
I don't know.
So when you hear people say civil war, don't get caught up in the fantasy or you know, the real revolution is political, and it's ballot by ballot, it's vote by vote, it's chapter by chapter.
It's it's young Americans standing up to be counted.
Like we've never seen this before.
And it's their parents and their grandparents saying, enough is enough.
My child will not be silenced.
It's America remembering who we were.
We are and who Charlie was.
I can't believe it.
I am going to say something which may be in the ultimate of sacrilege.
I never heard anything he said that made me seem like, wow.
So what?
You don't have to agree.
Just notice this.
I like trends.
I like crowds.
I like a clocracies.
I like cacistocracy.
I love, I love movements and herd mentality.
I love this stuff.
Please tell me that the Republicans, whoever runs a Republicans, are doing something about this.
Erica Kirk owns this.
She can make a deal.
With her word.
And she's got to be careful, but with her word, her, all of her uh, you know, um mailing lists and all the data.
She's got data you can't.
She runs a show.
I think she's gonna be, listen to me, bigger than Charlie was.
Charlie was great collectively.
I don't think anybody says I miss Charlie so much because I just think they liked him.
He was mean, he's not mean, he was very nice.
Whoever controls turning point, by the way, this is owns the next election.
The Democrats are freaking out.
They're retreating.
They don't know what to do.
One woman say, hey, this is incredible.
I've gotta, hey, I lost my job.
I spent my last $300 cleaning up traffic tickets or party tickets because I mean, they don't know what to do.
They're free, they're saying, wait a minute, you can't, you what?
Yes.
We're we're canceling you.
We are the canceled.
We're canceling you.
We're canceling you.
Now, JD could pick up the mandate because JD was supposedly Charlie's best friend.
Okay, fair enough.
And if Erica says, Yes.
They were because he went to pick Charlie up.
The body.
He went, he brought him back.
He did.
He did.
Whoa.
But he's got to watch it.
Remember what brought him there.
Watch the message.
Watch the message.
They don't give a shit about this building seven stuff and all that.
No.
You know, USS Liberty, the Levant.
They don't care about this stuff.
They don't care about it.
So that's where we are with that.
So my friends, on this Sunday evening, I say to you, thank you.
I say to you, God bless America.
I love it.
I've never been so excited.
Mr. Pilgrim Media, thank you so much for your kindness tonight and your generosity.
Follow Mrs. L. How are we doing on those numbers, honey?
We've got to follow Mrs. L at Lynn's Warriors, Lynn's Warriors.
Go and subscribe.
You've got, and also she did an interview today.
Wait, you see this new radio star on the Cats Roundtable?
Oh my God.
And then tonight, don't forget, uh, 1 a.m. to 5.
It's the overnight, and I'm gonna go in and I'm gonna let these people have it.
Have it.
Thank you.
My apologies for the bad reception.
I think I understand what's happening.
I think.
I don't know.
Remember, it's just me.
No producers, no staff.
Everything you see, every thumbnail, every comment, every everything.
It's me, Mrs. Allen.
That's it.
Not bad.
For what we do, not bad.
Alright, my friends, we love you.
God bless America.
Charlie, wherever you are, my friend, you I uh wow.
Wow.
In death, your spirit might be well, I don't think he is greater than because what he did in his lifetime is what caused this, but I've never seen anything like it.
Do not screw this up.
Tonight, candlelight vigils all over the place.
DC, everywhere, everywhere.
Everybody's doing it.
Don't screw this up.
Don't.
They don't want to hear about tariffs.
They don't want to hear about uh borders, none of that.
You hear what I'm saying?
They don't care about that.
They don't care about borders, they don't care about this.
It doesn't mean anything.
Don't if you have a Mexican restaurant, nobody wants Wontan soup.
They don't.
That's not what they came for.
Give them what they came for.
Play to the audience.
And they'll vote your way.
All right, dear friends.
Have a great and a glorious night.
Thank you so much.
And don't forget one more thing.
Can't say it enough.
Prepare with Lionel.com.
I don't want to be the doomsayer.
But if you don't think something is happening, if you don't think these folks are gonna sit back and say, oh well, well, you know, they won fair and square.
They did COVID, they did BLM, they did riots, they've done everything.
They shut down speech, shut down social media.
They're out of control.
You think they're gonna go away quietly?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
But because of what happened, that's it.
All right, my friends, have a great and a glorious day.
We'll see you tomorrow.
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All right, my friends, have a great night.
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