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Aug. 30, 2025 - Lionel Nation
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Why Didn’t Anyone Stop Robin Westman Before the Massacre?
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Good evening, my friends.
It is now 11.30 p.m. on Thursday, the 28th of August.
And as you know, at this particular time every night, I like to take this as my last chance to get to you before the end of the day, in which I can provide you with a series of questions, a series of queries, for those of you who are the quidlibits, the quidnokes, those of you who are, dare I say, querulous, those of you who enjoy...
And the question is, what do we really know?
How do we know what we know?
What do we know regarding this horrible, horrible, horrible, terrible, incredibly awful massacre, tragedy that occurred in D. Excuse me, not D.C. in Minnesota.
What do we know?
What about knowing about this?
Do we know what kind of rifle it was?
Do we know whether it was an AR-15?
No.
Do we know whether this individual was any using SSRIs?
We don't know that.
Do we know whether this individual was taking any type of hormones?
We don't know this.
What do we know?
We don't know.
How do we know what we know?
Who is responsible?
Who can we?
I was listening before to the great and the glorious and the wonderful Alex Jones.
We send our...
But I was listening to him and someone he had on, I don't know who was a fine gentleman, said, what about the mother?
What about the mother?
What about the mother?
She was responsible for perhaps selling out the paperwork, helping out the paperwork, helping him expedite his, dare I say, his name transition.
Is the mother to blame for murder?
Is the mother to blame for murder?
Yes or no?
I say no.
Could be, but not based on that.
Is a doctor who assists in hormone treatments and the like, is a doctor who involves himself or herself in the application of some type of gender-affirming whatever.
Is he responsible for the murders?
No.
No, we don't know.
There's no probable cause.
You have to show a probable cause.
A probable cause, a reasonable likelihood that that the two are connected not not that this occurred we have this idea we have this idea this notion that well maybe maybe it occurred but we don't know do we have any indication that perhaps SSRIs were implicated?
No.
Do we know whether they are responsible for this?
Maybe, maybe yes, maybe no.
What about the fact that he was just crazy?
What about the fact that he as a young age prior to any of this nonsense was indicating an affinity towards Hitler?
Did that mean anything to you?
I submit to you, maybe, maybe not.
What saith you?
What do we really know?
We don't know.
Now one particular camp says, look, nobody cares to know whether the facts are true regarding President Trump.
So why should I be so worried about what we do or do not know as to this?
That's a very good point.
Very good point.
But how do we know this?
Now they say he was detransing.
I also heard desist as in ceasing to desist, except I heard detrans.
What I heard, what I got in my in my particular reading of his, his creed, by the way, it's not a manifesto.
We went through great pains last night.
This is not a manifesto.
is a directive.
It is an explication of your thoughts, your ideas.
It's not just a bunch of scribblings and random, crazy thoughts But but but but but but but but And I suggest, no, I think he was showing a dissatisfaction or a regret with his hair, but I don't think that's it.
Somebody wrote some fascinating things.
Someone writes, it's a very fascinating thing.
Somebody writes, someone should have.
red flagged him.
What does that mean?
Red flags.
Hello from Melbourne, Australia.
Hello, Melbourne, Australia.
Thank you so much for this.
Five by five.
Thank you so much, my friends.
Someone writes something interesting.
I like this one particular point.
I wanted to bring this.
This is incredibly frustrating.
What is frustrating?
A Mary Maria day.
What is frustrating?
I'm not trying to be obstrue, but what is frustrating?
I'm not frustrated at all by this.
Are you?
What are you frustrated by?
Maybe I can help you.
Maybe I can help you.
Because what we need to do right now is apply critical thinking.
And only, only, only extrapolate, only interpolate, only base our opinions upon that information which we know to be true, not which we kind of hint or guess.
What is it?
A manifesto is something Leonard Lake had on video.
No, a manifesto is a different story.
A manifesto.
something as you know which is a little bit different a manifesto is not just a series of thoughts a manifesto is different a manifesto is The Communist Manifesto is an idea of what you are involved in,
what your thoughts are, what your plans are, what your goals are, what is the purpose of those who want to join your particular movement.
The Communist Manifesto.
One could argue that the Declaration of Independence is a manifesto, not just a thought, not just things that people write down, not just, you know, stupid kind of goofy things that folks write.
No, no, no, no, no.
That is not a manifesto.
That's what this pathetic and awful and terrible media people who know who are so monumentally illiterate who know nothing about the law, nothing about the rules, nothing about the psychotic rambles are nothing.
A manifesto is a deliberate and organized declaration of beliefs, ladies and gentlemen, of goals, of intentions.
Historically, manifestos are political, ideological.
I told you, Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto, the Unabomber's 1995 essay, and the Declaration of Independence.
A manifesto implies coherence and purpose, even if deranged.
It's meant to persuade, to justify, and to explain.
It's not psychotic rambling.
It's not logolalia, logorhea.
It's not verbal incontinence a la Kamala Harris.
It's not disorganized, incoherent, purely symptomatic screeds of mental instability.
It's not a bunch of scrawls or scattered notes or contradictory scribbles.
That's not what it is.
Bottom line is you have to show structure and intent.
Does it as an attempt to explain or justify the act, the act, the procedure, the policy, the theory, the idea, the movement?
Is there a beginning, a middle, and an end?
Or is it just scribbled chaos with the idea of maybe backwards or using particular script which is more instructional, like look at the script, look at the way I'm writing it, look at the way I invert my ease as opposed to the subject matter.
Is the audience involved?
Is it written for someone?
Is it written for society, government, future members?
Ramblings are inward.
They're private.
A manifesto is outward.
It's aimed at others.
It's about ideology.
It's a recurring political, religious, or social theme.
That's part of it.
A manifesto asks, here is why I did this.
I don't even know versus I don't know why I exist.
So calling Westman's writings a manifesto implies an ideological or political dimension.
But what goes to show you is that people, as you know, are morons.
And to many, many people, the English language means nothing to them.
It's just a tool by which they can bleat and yell their callow little expatiations about how bad they feel.
It's so imprecise.
These are journalists who use the wrong word constantly.
Constantly.
So that's the bottom line.
But what are people so frustrated about?
What do we know?
We don't really know.
the purpose you're never going to find their uh you're not going to find any particular reason for this you're not going to find anything Last night we had two people on WABC.
By the way, I hope you listen at 1 a.m.
1 a.m. Eastern time.
Please, please I beg beseech entreat and importune you to listen to listen that's for you hand about a good hand for it there we go there we go there we go that's for you this is for our Melbourne friend there we go now we get a better one well that's good there we go let me tune this there we go yeah much better miss a basso profundo Yes,
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
We're going to do this.
No one thing was responsible.
Don't worry about that.
We don't matter about that.
It doesn't matter.
They're going to be hoisted by their own libopator.
It doesn't really matter.
We don't care about him.
But I was going to say last night, there were two calls I got.
One was a woman who called up.
She's very, very nice.
Wonderful woman.
She was a teacher for 50 years, retired in New York, in the New York school system.
And she cried.
She says, you know, I work with kids.
And if only maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, if this kid, maybe if this person received a hug, maybe.
Maybe if this person received a hug, a hug, I'm not going to discount that, but I think not.
I don't think this is a matter of somebody receiving no love.
The mother looked, I don't know, she looks like Kathy Hochul in some respects.
Another call.
Somebody says, you know, when I was in Vietnam, we would break apart M16s and send them back, send the pieces back.
And I said, what are you talking about there's no indication of even what kind of rifle this was do you see what i'm saying you see each of you each of you wonderful people each of you has your own particular case take something's bothering you might be tempon tim might be the liberal take it might be elon or more it might be might be the the uh the uh the the the mayor it might be the the police chief who says i don't we don't know what this is we have no idea This is very,
very interesting.
This is very, very interesting.
And I find it so interesting.
Do any of you know, in the Catholic Church, what is the Annunciation?
Have you heard about that?
Anybody know what that is?
The word Annunciation has been seen so many times.
Anybody know what the Annunciation is?
Anybody?
Anybody?
Who remembers?
Who knows what the Annunciation is?
I bet you know, one person ever looked to say, what is that?
It sounds like renunciation, but it's Annunciation.
What is it?
What does it mean?
What does it mean?
Anybody?
I'll wait.
I find this interesting.
What is the Annunciation?
The announcement from Gabriel to the Virgin Mary, come on, I know you went to Jewett and Saint Lawrence.
I'm not asking you because I don't know.
I'm asking you whether you know.
Like a religious decree or something.
Don't have the fog you see this.
It's very, very short.
It's very interesting.
And I think it's very, very critical.
In Catholic tradition, the Annunciation refers to the moment when the Archangel Gabriel appeared to the Virgin Mary.
and announced that she would conceive and give birth to Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
This pivotal event marks the beginning of the incarnation, God becoming man through Mary's yes.
It is notably documented in Luke and celebrated on March the 25th as a major feast of the church calendar.
This one event is one of the most widely depicted and cherished in Christian art and theology and is often represented by a work entitled The Annunciation.
And the Annunciation in Minneapolis, established in 1922, is a Roman Catholic parish and it was named, in fact, after reflecting the church's spiritual mission to proclaim the good news and offer an encounter with Jesus, just as the angel Gabriel proclaimed to Mary.
It's in the local context.
So that's very interesting.
Many, many people who are very devout Christians.
In fact, that's more of a Catholic story, which is very interesting.
By the by, this is interesting.
Is there anything to indicate that Mary and Joseph never had sex or does the virgin birth indicate?
being born to someone who is without original sin or born without sin.
Have you heard that?
I find the rules fascinating.
And of course, all of this is available at like that if you just show the slightest interest.
Two different concepts.
The virgin birth means that Jesus was conceived in the womb of Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit without a human father.
It says, How can this be since I know not man?
Mary asks Gabrielel, How can this be, since I know, you know the biblical no.
The angel responds, The Holy Spirit will come upon you.
Please?
The teaching is universal in Christianity.
Maria's conception was miraculous, not the result of sexual relations.
Now, Catholic tradition holds that Maria remained a virgin before, during, and after the birth of Jesus.
This is why she is called ever virgin.
And the belief is that she and Joseph never had marital relations.
Joseph is often understood as Maria's guardian and spouse, but not in the sexual sense.
The Catechism of the Church, Catholic Church, affirms this explicitly.
The Immaculate Conception refers to Mary's own conception, Mary's own conception, that she herself was preserved free from original sin by God's grace in view of her role as Mother of God.
This means that Mary was born without sin.
This is often confused with the virgin birth, but they are separate doctrines.
You see that?
Do you see that?
The Immaculate Conception refers to Mary's conception.
Mary's conception, not the virgin birth.
And did Mary and Joseph ever have sex?
Catholic Church says no.
The doctrine of her perpetual virginity says she never had relations with Joseph.
And does the virgin birth mean being born without original sin?
No.
The virgin birth refers only to Jesus' conception by the Holy Spirit.
Being born without sin applies to Mary herself under the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception.
Did you know any of this?
Did you know any of you good Christians?
Did you know this?
Of course not.
Of course not.
Because as you know, what is one of the wonderful things that about, and I can't speak for the rest of the country, but what I can say about the United States, my country, is that we know nothing.
We know absolute nothing.
Never investigate, never read, never study.
We want God and Judeo-Christian, with the emphasis on Christian being in so many of our aspects, but we don't know this.
And I find it fascinating.
Now, you don't have to believe in the truth of what is said, but you must know to be cognizant of what's going on.
You must know what's kind of going on in the world.
Does that make sense?
You understand what I'm saying?
Don't you find this fascinating?
Of course.
So anyway, what happens today?
I think we know the names of the two children who died.
I think we're going to have the usual.
It will be forgotten by tomorrow.
Labor Day is Monday and it's over with.
Look at this.
Catholic Church literally wanted to drink the blood.
Question mark.
Have you ever studied this, Johnny Jolaine?
Have you ever studied this?
Is this some type of vampirism?
Is that it?
Have you ever looked?
Have you ever studied this?
Of course, you can do it right now.
You can do it right before.
So anyway, the point is we don't know, going back to Mr. Mr. Well, Mr. Running Bryant, this trans killer, this man, this bioman, number one, we don't know anything about what happened.
We don't know why we don't know anything about what happened before.
We know nothing.
We know nothing about why.
Why this person did this?
There were trans folks before, there were folks on SSRIs, there were folks with, with, you know, hormone supplements, but nothing happened.
So what do we know?
What do we know?
What do we know?
Somebody writes, we don't even know if it was real.
What is the it that we talk about?
One of the things that you'll notice is in that, in the particular, those who are, who are following along, who want to read the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the references will not ever clarify what it means.
They'll say no.
You say no or lol and you say lol what?
What in particular?
I don't know.
We must be precise.
We must be precise.
What is it?
The who scenario, ladies and gentlemen, the who scenario.
What who scenario are we talking about?
We mean the whole scenario.
The whole scenario of what whole scenario?
Which one?
We don't know.
have no idea.
Again, we're not writing this.
We're not drawing this.
What precisely are we suggesting here?
Someone says drink.
Is this, what is that?
Kool-Aid?
I can't, I can't.
Drink line.
I don't know what this means.
Again, somebody thought enough to write something, and we don't know what it means.
It's misspelled.
It's fragmented.
It's disjointed.
It's not even the manifesto you want to understand what i'm saying terrific somebody says remembrance day It's all about the poppy, but no one remembers the hopium.
What does this have to do with anything?
We don't know.
Anyway, this is wonderful.
This is wonderful.
So, my friends, what's going to happen right now?
We have no idea.
There's going to be flags at half mast.
The president is going to be saying something.
You're going to be seeing a concerted effort on the part of everybody to try to reel back, to look at...
They want to ban we've been through this.
It's boring.
We don't care about this.
The issue that nobody wants to talk about is how do we make schools safe?
How do we make churches safe?
That is the issue.
That, my friend, is the issue.
Nothing else matters.
Everything else we could talk about.
You could talk about it.
you could talk about god you could talk about jesus you could talk about the fact that you would think that if ever there was a place to be safe it would be in a church And when you're asking people to ask for hopes and prayers, what about the hopes and prayers of the people who were praying that they wouldn't die then?
Or who were praying that their kids would be safe that day?
They were in a church, in a church.
If ever there was a place where it would be safe, it would be a church.
So what are we hoping and praying for?
I don't know.
What do we mean a parent's worst nightmare?
Why do they say that?
It's a parent's worst nightmare.
It's a parent's worst nightmare.
What's a parent's worst nightmare?
It's a parent's worst nightmare.
Why do you say that?
I don't know.
We just say clichés.
I have no idea.
I just say these things.
These clichés that I believe in.
I don't even know why I'm saying it.
That's what people do.
They just say stuff.
They don't even know why they say it.
By the way, I wrote the poll so far.
We have 125 votes.
Are others to blame?
And it says fifty two percent say absolutely, twenty one percent everyone's to blame, absolutely not.
I suggest no one's to blame.
No one's to blame.
Blame for what?
What are you blaming?
Blaming for what?
Blaming for what?
It's no blaming.
It's ridiculous.
He is responsible for this.
He wasn't insane under the rules of the McNaughton rule where he is unable to be held criminally liable for this.
That's ridiculous.
That's not the way that is.
It's not the way it is.
Everybody loves to make this deeper than it is.
We love to look for the symbology, don't we?
Don't we?
What is this really about?
What is it?
What is it about?
We don't know.
We don't know.
There is no reason for it.
There is no reason.
Nothing.
You want a reason?
I could say, for example, well., the reason why the man blacked out when he was driving and drove his car into the bus, killing the orphans was because of the blood alcohol level and the fact that it overcame him.
That's what happened.
Why he drank so much, I don't know.
Why he's an alcoholic, I don't know.
Why he's an alcoholic and others aren't, I don't know.
That's a different issue.
But if you want me to tell you specifically what the reason for something was, I can't tell you why he decided.
Woe is me, I'm going to go and I'm going to plan this out.
Have any of you ever thought about taking someone's life?
Not could you, you know, not the proverbial, if someone hurt my child, but have ever, the answer is no, you haven't.
Why?
Because you don't.
Have you ever thought about robbing a store, robbing a liquor store?
No.
Have you ever thought about kidnapping somebody?
No, you ever thought about No.
Do you ever think about harming a child?
No.
Why?
I don't know.
Why?
I don't want to.
Most of us say, I don't want to.
I don't want to.
Not because I don't want to.
It's not because I believe in God, I'm a moral person, I don't want to.
I don't want to.
I don't want to hurt anybody.
Yeah, but I don't want to.
I never even thought about it.
Never even thought about it.
Have you ever defiled your marriage?
Most people will say, no.
Why?
Didn't want to.
Didn't even come up.
I don't know.
Is it because of your faith in the love of the Bible?, well, yeah, but no, I just, it never came up.
I never, I never thought of it.
No, I, of course I would never do that, but it's, I never had to give it any thought.
It never came up.
That's where most of us are.
Not because we're moral.
Not because we're so great, we just...
It's that we're just not bad.
Mankind is really not good.
We're just not.
bad.
My friends, I want to thank you.
We're approaching the middle.
The Midnight Hour and on the other side of midnight it's going to be at 1 a.m.
The Lionel Show at WABC.
Please listen.
Please call.
If you go to my ex pinned piece, I have the phone number.
Please call.
Tell the board operator that you're from the nation and we'll let you ride on.
Thank you so much for your thoughts.
Thank you for your incredible perspicacity and kindness.
And until we meet again, my friends, remember this valedictory, this Sayonara, this goodbye.
The monkey's dead.
The show's over.
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